[00:06] <cjohnston> bkerensa: how do you enable it
[00:06] <bkerensa> cjohnston: in /etc/NetworkManager/dnsmasq.d
[00:07] <bkerensa> you need to add any file that has "cache-size=x"
[00:07] <bkerensa> Ubuntu was prepared to set default to 150
[00:07] <bkerensa> while upstream uses 400
[00:07] <bkerensa> I have mine set to 500
[00:08] <bkerensa> so thats 500 records it caches that it will not need to always need to do dns lookups on
[00:08] <bkerensa> but if a record changes it can still recursively grab the update data
[00:08] <cjohnston> bkerensa: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dnsmasq looks a little more complicated
[00:09] <bkerensa> cjohnston: most of its already setup
[00:09] <bkerensa> if you "nano /etc/resolv.conf"
[00:09] <bkerensa> you should see 127.0.0.1 set
[00:09] <cjohnston> mine is 8.8.8.8 ;-)
[00:09] <bkerensa> you set that custom?
[00:10] <cjohnston> ya
[00:10] <cjohnston> :-P
[00:10] <bkerensa> cjohnston: for instance
[00:11] <bkerensa> if I dig ubuntu.com
[00:11] <bkerensa> first time it will be a few milliseconds
[00:11] <bkerensa> second time it will be 0ms
[00:11] <bkerensa> because its caches it
[00:11] <cjohnston> right
[00:11] <bkerensa> cjohnston: that wiki page looks like it was made perhaps before dnsmasq was installed by default
[00:12] <bkerensa> because it suggests installing the package
[00:12] <bkerensa> which is already there since 12.04
[00:12] <bkerensa> the only reason caching is not on by default is because dnsmasq does not do per user caching yet
[00:12] <bkerensa> so if your on a system with multiusers
[00:12] <bkerensa> its possible I guess to manipulate the cache
[00:12] <bkerensa> and have it affect everyone
[00:13] <bkerensa> but if your the only one who uses your system you should be fine
[06:21] <dholbach> good morning
[07:15] <dholbach> hey dpm
[07:15] <dholbach> dpm, I took a leaf out of mhall119's book :)
[07:16] <dholbach> (about the donations blog entry)
[07:16] <dholbach> dpm, is your back any better?
[07:17] <dpm> hey dholbach, better, but unfortunately just a bit :/
[07:17] <dholbach> damn :-(
[07:18]  * dholbach hugs dpm
[07:18] <dpm> :)
[07:18] <dholbach> dpm, are your muscles cramped as well?
[07:19] <dholbach> in that case a hot-water bottle might help
[07:19] <dholbach> at least give you a little bit of relief
[07:20] <dpm> yeah, stretching helps too. I was at the physio yesterday, and I've got a doctor appointment on Thursday
[07:21] <dholbach> and sometimes I used these patches you put on your back which go hot after a couple of minutes
[07:22] <dholbach> they are especially good if you move around and don't want to carry that hot water bottle with you
[07:22] <dholbach> man, I sound like a very old man already
[07:28] <czajkowski> dpm: sore back ?
[07:28] <dholbach> hey czajkowski
[07:29] <dpm> yep, not sure what I did this last weekend to cause it :/
[07:29] <czajkowski> dpm: if you can and have a shower, point the water at the area and stand there so the pressure softens the area . Avoid a bath.
[07:29] <czajkowski> dpm: if you lie down, put a pillow under your knees, it takes the pressure off your back.
[07:29] <dpm> thanks
[12:58] <jcastro_> buenas mornings
[12:58] <smartboyhw> jcastro_, good evening:D
[13:13] <mhall119> good morning
[13:14] <smartboyhw> good evening mhall119
[13:28] <jcastro_> JoseeAntonioR, it's going to be neil patel and ivanka majic
[14:50] <jcastro_> hey popey
[14:50] <jcastro_> popey, our free ride is over on HP Cloud
[14:51] <jcastro_> can we move it back to your server?
[14:51] <jcastro_> or dholbach's?
[14:51] <popey> hah
[14:51] <popey> sure
[14:51] <jcastro_> but there's one going on today iirc
[14:51] <popey> can someone take a copy of the essential data?
[14:51] <jcastro_> yeah, JoseeAntonioR, ping
[14:51] <popey> ok, ping me whenever and I'll move it
[14:51] <jcastro_> k
[15:12] <cprofitt> hey folks... starting to hear a great deal about the removal of Unity 2D... and by hearing I suspect it is FUD
[15:13] <cprofitt> from my reading it appears that Unity is just Unity right now... not two different apps that load depending on your video card...
[15:14] <cprofitt> It is my understanding that if your video card can not do hardware acceleration Unity will use your CPU -- is that accurate? Does anyone have a link off the top of your head hat discusses this well... so I can forward this to people asking me?
[15:15] <mhall119> cprofitt: it is accurate, yes, it will use llvmpipe to optimize OpenGL calls to your CPU
[15:16] <cprofitt> mhall119: does this raise the minimum CPU requirements?
[15:17] <mhall119> I don't think so, no
[15:17] <cprofitt> cool... thanks
[15:17] <mhall119> cprofitt: FWIW, Fedora/GnomeShell is also using llvmpipe to support older graphics cards
[15:17] <cprofitt> mhall119: starting to crawl inside Django a bit - planning on using that extra server for a generic Django server for a while
[15:18] <cprofitt> mhall119: that is good to know too -- most people assume this is a change that is only Ubuntu I think
[15:18] <mhall119> cprofitt: cool
[15:18] <mhall119> cprofitt: yeah, we're kind of late to the llvmpipe party
[15:19] <cprofitt> yeah -- just found a good link on AskUbuntu about it
[15:20] <cprofitt> the llvmpipe helped as a search term
[15:20] <mhall119> cprofitt: http://www.mesa3d.org/llvmpipe.html has some info
[15:21] <mhall119> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTE2Mjc has a more critical look, but phoronix always does
[15:28] <dholbach> see you guys tomorrow - need to catch a train
[15:54] <doctormon> I have a developer on dA who's using 7z files, he's too scared of launchpad, how can I direct him in the right way to distribute his software correctly?
[15:54] <czajkowski> what is DA and 7z?
[15:55] <pleia2> deviant art, 7z is a compressed file
[15:55] <czajkowski> oh right
[15:55] <czajkowski> ok
[16:22] <mhall119> doctormon: why is he scared of Launchpad?
[16:27] <doctormon> mhall119: dOESN'T KNOW HOW TO USE IT
[16:28] <doctormon> Damn sorry about caps
[17:08] <doctormon> mhall119: No ideas for the best guide to point people to?
[17:10] <mhall119> doctormon: czajkowski would know best
[17:11] <czajkowski> depends where they need to start
[17:11] <czajkowski> https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/SourceBuilds/GettingStarted
[17:11] <czajkowski> https://dev.launchpad.net/Getting
[17:12] <czajkowski> bbl going for munchables
[17:55] <daker> hey czajkowski
[17:56] <daker> or mhall119
[18:01] <bkerensa> That moment when you stumble into customer data for the largest tablet accessory maker in the U.S. :P
[18:20] <mhall119> daker: what's up?
[18:20] <daker> canonical's adress/tel in PM plz :)
[18:21] <mhall119> daker: for Visa application?
[18:21] <daker> yep
[18:21] <mhall119> daker: email events@canonical.com, there may be a special address and phone number for the folks who handle that
[18:22] <daker> no no no :(
[18:22] <daker> i don't have time :(
[18:22] <mhall119> ok, give me one minute
[18:23] <daker> thank you
[18:31] <jono> bkerensa, when you respond to my posts, can you just respond in one place
[18:31] <jono> as opposed to responding the same point in multiple places
[18:31] <jono> it makes it easier to have a discussion
[18:32] <bkerensa> jono: aye
[18:39] <czajkowski> jono: is it me or am I seeeing two identical posts from you on planet with two different headings?
[18:39] <jono> czajkowski, you are seeing it, I edited the post and it is showing both for some reason
[18:40] <jono> I am trying to get IS to fix it
[18:40] <czajkowski> ah ok
[18:40] <czajkowski> I'm also having DNs issues here so thought it was me
[18:40] <czajkowski> as they then went to the same post
[18:40] <jono> np
[18:52] <jcastro_> bkerensa, I don't think shortening UDS is a money issue
[18:52] <jcastro_> if you're paying for people's flights and hotels, one less day doesn't really save you that much
[19:12] <doctormon> czajkowski, mhall119: I think this developer needs level 1 documentation, baby steps. Links provided are far too advanced.
[19:13] <mhall119> how baby?
[19:13] <doctormon> "I know you've written some code, but now it's time to learn what a repository is"
[19:13] <bkerensa> heh
[19:15] <czajkowski> http://blog.launchpad.net/general/fixing-a-simple-bug-in-launchpad-a-screencast
[19:15] <AlanBell> doctormon: do they want to package stuff for Ubuntu specifically?
[19:15] <czajkowski> https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA
[19:15] <czajkowski> the help pages are pretty detailed
[19:16] <doctormon> I need to teach more people on Ubuntu about fractal documentation writing.
[19:16] <doctormon> czajkowski: Thanks for the great link with video, I think I'll pass on both links to the user.
[19:17] <czajkowski> np
[19:17] <snap-l> "There comes a time in every developer's like where they begin to notice certain changes in their body of code"
[19:17] <snap-l> s/like/life/
[19:19] <AlanBell> doctormon: github is massively unscary compared to launchpad if you are not concerned about PPAs and bug tracking things in Ubuntu
[19:19] <doctormon> snap-l: I like
[19:20] <jussi> anyone here have an extensive planet ubuntu backlog in their feedreader?
[19:33] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro_: ping
[19:34] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro_: already here, let me know when you're available so we can work on it
[19:41] <jcastro_> JoseeAntonioR, basically just back everything up
[19:41] <jcastro_> and then we can move it
[19:41] <JoseeAntonioR> ok, can you give me ssh access to the server?
[19:55] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro_: ^
[20:00] <czajkowski> http://hackntalk.org/hello-world/  say hello to my new pet project
[20:01] <jcastro_> JoseeAntonioR, oh right
[20:01] <jcastro_> one sec
[20:01] <JoseeAntonioR> sure
[20:02] <jcastro_> the mysql server right?
[20:03] <JoseeAntonioR> yeah
[20:03] <JoseeAntonioR> isn't it the same as the wp server?
[20:03] <jcastro_> no
[20:03] <JoseeAntonioR> ok, then
[22:30] <cjohnston> balloons: ping
[22:39] <bkerensa> jcastro_: moving it to Canonistack? :P
[22:43] <daker> wee mhall119 got a recommandation letter from my boss :)
[23:10] <cjohnston> when its stable bkerensa ?
[23:10] <bkerensa> cjohnston: hmm?