jasoncwarner_hey robert_ancell and RAOF , apw reported this bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1063919 could you guys take a quick look? not sure where the problem might be.00:05
ubot2Ubuntu bug 1063919 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "Additional flash to black at plymouth to X handoff" [Undecided,New]00:05
robert_ancelljasoncwarner_, ech00:06
robert_ancellRAOF, afaict LightDM is continuing to do the right handshake with Plymouth, can you tell any further?00:08
RAOFI've asked for some clarification, but if the dots remain across the flash then that's highly odd; the dots are just another part of the framebuffer, like the rest.00:24
RAOFOh, my. Final freeze really creeps up!01:40
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jbichaanyone interested in sponsoring ubuntu-docs?04:17
jbichawell it's lp:ubuntu-docs and I'm going to bed04:19
jbichaooh, robert_ancell was piloting today04:20
jbichalanguage pack deadline is at an annoying time of day04:20
pittiGood morning05:15
RAOFHey pittmeister flash!05:15
pitti¡ɐıןɐɹʇsnɐ ˙ɹɯ  ʎǝɥ05:22
RAOFDear sbuild: faster!05:23
RAOFOr, rather, dear btrfs: please suck less, your features are enticing!05:23
RAOFpitti: Out of idle curiosity, how do you find those unicode codepoints?05:42
pittiRAOF: easy, I just turn my keyboard around05:42
pittior LANG=en_AU.UTF-8 :-)05:42
pittiRAOF: nah, http://www.sevenwires.com/play/UpsideDownLetters.html05:42
sarnoldah! it's all clear to me now!05:42
sarnoldflipping the _keyboard_ is a lot easier than flipping the monitor.05:43
pittisarnold: the monitors are already upside down in Australia, so it should be just fine for RAOF05:43
didrocksgood morning05:47
TheMusopitti: And what do you suggest I do? :p06:00
TheMusoOr to be more precise, how does up side down monitors help me deal with that text?06:01
pittibonjour didrocks06:01
pittiTheMuso: hm, I guess you need a plugin to play the speech synthesis in reverse? then you can hear Elvis or some aliens talking06:01
pittididrocks: I noticed this on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-q-desktop-quality: "[didrocks] test screensaver and inhibit: DONE"06:02
pittididrocks: where did you put that test?06:02
pittididrocks: I ask because I have written some as well, as a WI in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/qa-q-add-test-coverage06:02
didrocksguten morgen pitti :)06:03
pittididrocks: (aren't we great in coordinating?)06:03
didrockspitti: I sent them by email to jibel 4 months ago06:03
didrockshe told me he would setup them06:03
pittiah, I guess I'll talk to him then06:03
didrockspitti: mine are integration tests06:03
pittididrocks: mine as well06:03
didrocksargh, using keybindings, moving mouse?06:03
pittididrocks: I was thinking of stuffing them in UTAH, so I created the necessary meta-files around them06:04
pittiphone, brb06:04
pittididrocks: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~pitti/+junk/desktop-tests/view/head:/tests/desktop-pm/gnome_screensaver.py06:04
pittididrocks: it wasn't much lost, no worries06:05
pittididrocks: I'm using xkl to simulate a key event06:05
didrockspitti: ok, I hope that you will have some parts you can reuse. Mines are more from user perspective (having timeouting and so on, not playing that much with dbus06:05
didrocksbut yeah, changing the gsettings keys :/06:05
pittididrocks: did you find a way to change that temoprarily somehow?06:09
pittididrocks: but anyway, I wanted integration tests as well, so actually changing them is what I want06:09
pittiit resets them at the end, though06:09
pittididrocks: anyway, I'll talk to jibel06:10
pittididrocks: merci!06:10
didrockspitti: de rien ;)06:11
didrockspitti: I sent him 3 set of tests06:11
didrocksscreensaver, dconf blame and unity services running at startup06:12
jibelgood morning06:49
didrockssalut jibel!06:49
pittibonjour jibel06:50
jibelBonjour pitti et didrocks , comment allez-vous ?06:50
pittiun peu fatigue, mais je vais bien, merci!06:51
pittimy compose key is broken today, not amused06:51
pittigsettings are fine06:51
jibelpitti, too much Taekwondo again ?06:52
pittijibel: it was quite intense yesterday, but I got up earlier again06:52
pittimy wife will come back home today, so I need to get used to waking up early :)06:53
didrocksça va :)06:53
tsdgeosanyone knows what might be causing https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1043349 ?07:39
ubot2Ubuntu bug 1043349 in gnome-control-center "User Accounts reports wrong "Automatic Login" status when upgading from 12.04" [Undecided,Confirmed]07:39
pittijibel: so didrocks told me he sent you some screensaver tests a while ago; are they running in jenkins anywhere?08:01
seb128hey pitti, hey desktopers08:02
pittijibel: I discovered that I also have a work item for screensaver tests and have them in a +junk branch, but they aren't rolled out to anywhere as I'm not yet sure how to get UTAH tests into jenkins08:02
pittibonjour seb128, c,a va?08:02
seb128pitti, oui, et toi ?08:02
pittiseb128: s'il vous plai^t corriger ma compose key! :-)08:03
pittiseb128: je vais bien!08:03
seb128elle a quoi la compose key?08:03
pittiI use "Scroll Lock"08:04
seb128pitti, je *suis* bien08:04
seb128(joking :p)08:04
pittiand it has worked fine until today08:04
* seb128 hides08:04
pittiseb128: err, really?08:04
seb128no ;-)08:04
pittiah, *phew*08:04
* seb128 hugs pitti08:04
pittidude, it took me so long to figure this out! :-)08:04
* pitti hugs seb128 back08:04
RAOFYo, seb128!08:04
pittiso anyway, control-center still shows the right compose key for me, it just stopped working08:05
seb128pitti, compose broke today?! I don't think we changed anything08:05
* pitti blames RAOF08:05
seb128RAOF, hey, how are you?08:05
RAOFseb128: A bit tired, but otherwise ok. Yourself?08:05
jibelpitti, uh, it vaguely remembers me something. didrocks sent me an email with it a while ago, one minute.08:05
seb128RAOF, not fully awake yet (working on it through coffee) but good I think ;-)08:05
pittijibel: no hurry, I was mostly wondering where they are running (if they are)08:06
pittiseb128: do you know which component actually handles the compose key? in xev I just see the individual keys, but I wouldn't have a working version to compare against08:07
pittiis that somewhere in Gdk?08:07
* RAOF has a sneaking suspicion that it's X08:08
pittiorg.gnome.libgnomekbd.keyboard options ['terminate\tterminate:ctrl_alt_bksp', 'grp\tgrp:shifts_toggle', 'Compose key\tcompose:sclk']08:08
seb128pitti, I would say it's Xorg, though GTK let you choose input methods for e.g GtkTextView, not sure how that plays with compose08:09
pittiRAOF: do you know whether the compose key setting should appear somewhere in xprop -root?08:09
pitti(because it doesn't seem to be right now)08:09
jibelpitti, so ... I forwarded you 2 emails from didrocks with 3 tests: dconf, screensaver and unity-services-startup08:10
RAOFpitti: It's likely to want to be in _XKB_RULES_NAMES08:10
RAOF_XKB_RULES_NAMES(STRING) = "evdev", "pc105", "us,us", "dvorak,", "ctrl:nocaps,compose:menu"08:10
pitti_XKB_RULES_NAMES(STRING) = "evdev", "pc105", "us", "", ""08:10
pittithat's what I suspected08:10
* pitti tries to wiggle the settings in g-c-c08:10
RAOFpitti: Yeah, something in GNOME isn't setting the options correctly.08:10
jibelpitti, the tests are not running, because I was waiting for utah08:10
pittijibel: right, so was I08:10
pittijibel: I have mine UTAH-ified, but not sure where to submit them to08:11
pittijibel: d'accord, merci!08:11
pittiso I wasn't missing something obvious08:11
jibelpitti, neither am i. I'll need some utah training at uds08:11
pittiRAOF, seb128: hm, so wiggling the setting in g-c-c helped08:12
pittitrès bien!08:12
seb128pitti, did you get a g-s-d segfault today or something?08:12
pittino, I didn't; gsd hasn't crashed in ages08:12
pittianyway, I'll watch it, now that I know where to look08:13
pittiseb128, RAOF: thanks!08:13
pitti_XKB_RULES_NAMES(STRING) = "evdev", "pc105", "us,de,us", ",nodeadkeys,dvorak", "terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp,grp:shifts_toggle,compose:sclk"08:13
pittinow it lokos correct again08:13
pitti« î œ ø €  \o/08:14
pittijibel: mails> oh, d'exercice français :)08:16
pittididrocks: ah, so you use the autopilot bits; I just used xkl; otherwise these two look rather similar, so let's just take your's08:18
jibelpitti, oh sorry, I can translate it if you wish08:18
pittijibel: nah, that's fine08:18
didrockspitti: well, I don't want to compare my crappy code with your awesome work, yours is better I think :)08:18
pittididrocks: I have a test that totem disables the idle handling, we could merge that08:18
didrocksahah, excellent!08:18
didrockspitti in french \o/08:19
didrocksyep :)08:19
didrocksjibel: nicely done! :p08:19
pittididrocks: anyway, seems we are both blocked on being able to run UTAH tests in jenkins; once we do, we can merge those two and stick them in08:19
didrocksyep :)08:19
pittididrocks: would you mind if I keep the xkl approach? much less code to carry around08:20
pittierr, "xte"08:20
pittisubprocess.check_call(['xte', 'key Shift_L'])08:20
pittiit's using XTest, just like autopilot (I think), so the result ought to be the same08:20
pittididrocks: nice d-conf blame tests!08:21
didrockspitti: sure sure :)08:22
didrockspitti: thanks!08:22
Laneyis there a webapp SRU planned?09:07
LaneyI really want to cherry-pick for https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-firefox-extension/+bug/106088809:08
ubot2Ubuntu bug 1060888 in webapps-greasemonkey "Web app prompt appears on every single page load" [Undecided,In progress]09:08
Laneyhmm, maybe there's more changes needed for that09:08
seb128Laney, why SRU? we are not hard frozen yet and the fix seems trivial, you can probably try to get it in still09:14
chrisccoulsonurgh, that is pretty hideous :(09:14
Laneyseb128: I was more asking whether it was planned to include it anyway09:14
Laneylike should I not bother trying to do an upload today09:14
Laneychrisccoulson: yes, yes it is very annoying. I found that bug because I went to report it myself :-)09:15
seb128Laney, I think they planned to get extra fixes in before release, whether they manage to be on time I don't know09:15
seb128Laney, I would suggest to wait a few hours for Ken to be online if that's still ok timeline wise09:15
Laneywell, final freeze is today :P09:15
Laneyseb128: I'll test it and then see what ken says09:17
seb128Laney, thanks09:18
seb128Laney, <willcooke> seb128: yeah, we'll have some fixes I expect.  It was public holiday in the US yesterday so we've got a couple to get in09:19
seb128Laney, they plan to roll some updates,fixes out today09:19
Laneycan you ask that that one is included?09:20
seb128Laney, testing of the fix is still appreciated though! ;-)09:20
seb128<seb128> willcooke, you plan to get those out today right? ;-)09:20
seb128<willcooke> seb128: that one is on the hit list09:20
seb128 seb128: yes - today09:20
Laneyexcellent </mr burns>09:20
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didrocksseb128: I think mterry will be best to do the change09:46
didrocksseb128: the settings is still changed in the ui and loaded from it09:46
didrocksbut my feeling is that then, lightdm request again to account services to get the default session09:46
didrocksand I'm not really sure how this work for every case09:46
didrockswhat is sure is that the initial patch is still called and change the session as it worked in the past09:47
didrocksso the regression should come with recent changes09:47
seb128didrocks, ok09:47
seb128didrocks, one easy "workaround" would be to ship an unity-2d.session or symlink in gnome-session09:47
seb128or .desktop (or both)09:47
didrocksseb128: doesn't work, we need in addition to that to have a Xsession script making the session name change09:48
didrocksseb128: as some scripts are relying on the "ubuntu" as a session name09:48
didrocks(or changing those as well, ensuring we don't miss one)09:48
seb128didrocks, can we do an unity-2d with a /bin/false as test and unity as fallback?09:49
seb128e.g force it to fallback to unity09:49
seb128that should be trivial and lead to use "unity"09:49
didrocksseb128: hum, yeah, with a TryExec to false09:49
didrockslet me try this09:50
didrocksgood idea09:50
didrocksit should fallback to the default session09:50
didrockswhich is the one we want :)09:50
seb128didrocks, thanks09:50
didrocksseb128: that was a good idea… unfortunately, lightdm doesn't use TryExec anymore09:53
didrocksit was working in the past, i'm sure of it09:53
didrocksalso, it means the people using the gnome remix will see the ubuntu session now :/09:54
seb128damn lightdm09:54
didrocksI bet it's the migration to the account services which caused it09:54
seb128didrocks, can you reassign the bug to mterry with your hack attached? he knows lightdm's code better he might be able to help when he gets online09:55
didrocksseb128: last idea, trying to see tryexec to foo09:55
didrockslet's try that one first :)09:55
didrocksseb128: not better :/09:56
didrocksreassigning to mterry09:57
didrocksthe issue with having ubuntu-2d session starting unity would be that there are some patches using DESKTOP_SESSION having to be rescope to use XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP09:57
didrocksI would have hope that we don't do that in a hurry :)09:57
didrocksoh on the bug:09:58
didrocks - replace "XSession=ubuntu-2d" by "XSession=ubuntu"09:58
didrocksmaybe that's what account services is using09:58
didrockslet me search for that one :)09:58
didrocksI see one! let's try :)09:59
didrocksno, that code isn't used :/10:01
didrocksI guess there is a second call to accountsservice at some point10:01
chrisccoulsong'ah, i hate compiz10:37
smspillazpitti: hey do you have that bug you filed yesterday handy ?11:10
pittismspillaz: yes, bug bug 106361711:11
ubot2Launchpad bug 1063617 in compiz "1:0.9.8+bzr3319-0ubuntu1 regression: keeps setting gsettings keys to wrong values" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106361711:11
pittismspillaz: and hello, how are you?11:12
smspillazhow are you ?11:12
pittiquite fine, just a bit tired11:12
pittiat least the bug is reproducible now11:12
smspillazyeah strange for some reason I fixed something quite unrelated and can't get it anymore11:12
smspillazI'm just going to revert my fix to the unrelated thing and check11:13
smspillazI have a feeling I probably worked around it accidentally11:13
pittismspillaz: it seems that something sets those gsettings keys after compiz evaluates them for its own config11:13
smspillazright, it unsets them in fact11:13
smspillazand its compiz doing it, I checked11:13
smspillazbut I wasn't sure why11:13
pittismspillaz: maybe unset for some, but not for all11:14
smspillazright, just the integrated keys11:14
pittithat's not unset, that's set11:14
pittithe default is []11:14
smspillaznah, its 'disabled'11:14
smspillazI checked, its calling g_settings_reset11:14
smspillazor whatever it is11:14
jbichaseb128: good morning, could you sponsor lp:ubuntu-docs?11:14
pitti    <key type="as" name="lower">11:15
pitti      <default>[]</default>11:15
pitti      <summary>Lower window below other windows</summary>11:15
pitti    </key>11:15
pittismspillaz: ^11:15
seb128jbicha, hey, can do!11:15
smspillazpitti: well, in any case, its compiz doing the setting of those keys :)11:15
pittismspillaz: indeed; thanks in advance for looking at this!11:16
smspillazits just taking me a while because I'm trying to figure out how to separate out of the bit of the code in question for test11:16
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pittismspillaz: I did a very simple check -- su to a fresh user, run dbus-launch xvfb-run bash, and the tried to alternate "compiz" with the gsettings set stuff11:18
pittismspillaz: with that, compiz never changed any of the keys11:18
pittibut in that you can't run "unity" due to missing 3D stuff11:19
pittiit seems it needs some more environment11:19
smspillazdamn, I can't reproduce it anymore even with my old stack11:21
pittismspillaz: you are trying with trunk or with current quantal?11:25
smspillaztrunk. I was able to get it yesterday with taht11:25
smspillazjust hunting through the code to see where this could occurr anyways11:25
mvoglatzor: do you think  lp:~mvo/aptdaemon/lp1058038  is ok for a workaround for now? until the real python issue is fixed?11:48
mvoglatzor: eh, actually, there is no python fix (patch got rejected)11:51
dpmhey all, could someone help me with bug 1049025 ? It's been marked as Fix Released, but there hasn't been any upload that fixed the issue or an explanation about how and whether it's been actually fixed. I can still reproduce it, but I haven't got permissions to set it back to New. Could someone have a look at it, and if it makes sense, revert it to New?11:55
ubot2Launchpad bug 1049025 in libreoffice "Can't select text/highlight using mouse" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104902511:55
seb128Sweetshark, ^11:55
seb128dpm, hey, how are you?11:55
seb128dpm, today is a good day to do upload with updated translations for things that don't use langpacks right?11:56
dpmhey seb128, yeah, today it's translations fest day :)11:56
seb128dpm, is there anything desktopish on that list out of those: shared-mime-info xdg-user-dirs language-selector update-notifier?11:56
Laneymvo: hey, how do I read this command-not-found data? (just to sanity check some entries?)11:57
dpmseb128, I think that mostly covers it. The rest should be taken care of by the installer and docs teams. Here's the list, which we reduced to the most essential things: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TranslationDeadline - oh, an important one is also unity-firefox-extension, but I'm not sure who'll do the fetching and integration on that one. I've been talking to KenVandine and zaspire about that one11:59
didrocksseb128: oh oh, we are tuesday!11:59
didrocksseb128: early meeting reminder day :)11:59
seb128dpm, yeah, talk to kenvandine and,or chrisccoulson11:59
mvoLaney: yeah, exactly like this, sorry that its relatively large, there was a stale mirror on bignay that caused it to not update for a while11:59
seb128didrocks, thanks, too late, sent it this morning while you were playing with lightdm ;-)12:00
didrocksseb128: yeah, but it's not fair! :)12:00
seb128didrocks, :-p12:00
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didrockschrisccoulson: hey, I still see the chat button on, were there any progress on that front? :)12:08
didrocksalso quick filter once more disappeared :/12:09
seb128desrt, hey12:18
smspillazpitti: ugh, yeah this thing is going to take me about a week12:29
smspillazjust figuring out how to get the tests in place12:29
smspillazthe original integration code from the gconf days was not well thought out12:29
seb128smspillaz, can't you do a quick fix for quantal and then refactor and test in trunk?12:32
smspillazseb128: not reallly, the fix itself is actually quite complex12:38
smspillazI need to make the backend smarter about handling cases where an integrated key has one vaue and a compiz key has another12:39
smspillazrefactoring for test isn't a problem. I can get tests in place right now actually12:39
smspillazso yeah, the fix is complicated, testing it not so much12:39
seb128well I guess that will be for a SRU at best then...12:39
smspillazisn't it desktop infrastructure freeze ?12:40
seb128no, today is hard freeze12:40
* smspillaz was thinking of taking a holiday soon12:40
didrocksI wonder if the switch + revert that Mirv experienced in compiz isn't due to that ^12:40
seb128desktop infra freeze was last week12:40
smspillazdidrocks: eh, the integration code is a bit fragile really12:41
seb128smspillaz, well take your holidays when you feel like doing that, you shouldn't look to much at bugs and such for that12:41
seb128smspillaz, that bug while annoying is not a release blocker and it can wait a few extra weeks12:42
smspillazI might just submit the fix for not writing out plugins-with-set-keys all the time now12:42
didrockssmspillaz: yeah, we only saw it with compiz and ted was blaming dconf, but I think that can be the real cause :)12:42
didrocksanyway, no hurry I think12:42
smspillazsince that was getting in the way of me debugging it12:42
smspillazdidrocks: well, I think I know what it is. I think there's a case where if you have a compiz key set to $X and an integrated key set to $Y (eg, through the migration script or whatever), if something triggers an update notification on the compiz key it will overwrite the gnome key12:43
didrockssmspillaz: yeah, hence the "it reverted to the previous value"12:43
didrocksmore than possible12:43
smspillazsince I can definitely see a case where that can happen12:43
didrocksmakes sense12:44
smspillazin any case, I need to make it so that gnome keys have priority over this stuff, although I only want reading an inconsistent compiz key to reset the compiz key back to the gnome key when its inconsistent with the gnome key and not every time the key is read12:44
smspillazand that isn't exactly straightforward to do at the moment12:45
seb128smspillaz, how come e.g pitti gets those keys having different values?12:46
seb128he seems to hit the bug randomly without doing config changes12:46
Mirvmight be that the switch + revert was indeed the case sam was mentioning12:46
didrocksMirv: I think so, we only saw it on compiz keys, right?12:53
didrocksMirv: never on the default launcher or anything else IIRC12:53
Mirvdidrocks: yes, only on a couple of compiz keys13:01
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Sweetsharkdpm: Could you try it with the ubuntu-proposed version? I set the bug back to fix commited, bug 1049025 comment 15 seemed to have been a bit overambitioned when setting it to released.13:42
ubot2Launchpad bug 1049025 in libreoffice "Can't select text/highlight using mouse" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104902513:42
dpmSweetshark, I just did after I noticed 3.6.2 in -proposed, and it seems to have fixed it \o/13:43
dpmI'll add a comment to the bug13:44
Sweetsharkdpm: and please also do some prayers that 1:3.6.2~rc2-0ubuntu3 finishes on armhf13:44
* dpm lights up some candles13:45
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seb128mvo, hey, do you plan an update-notifier upload before release (asking before looking at if it needs an upload for translations update)14:00
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mvoseb128: not currently but I can look at this later today hopefully14:04
seb128mvo, do you want me to look at it? (do you have clever magic or do you just download a .po set from launchpad and rename,copy them manually)?14:04
mvoseb128: just download from LP and use "mmv"14:05
mvoseb128: but I guess nowdays it would make sense to use a LP i18n branch nowdays I guess, not sure why we don't do that :/14:05
seb128mvo, "mmv"? /me learns a new command14:06
seb128mvo, yeah, I was thinking the same, I just don't want to experiment with that feature today14:06
mvo       mmv - move/copy/append/link multiple files by wildcard patterns14:06
mvoseb128: :)14:06
seb128mvo, want me to do the update-notifier update? I did some others already, I can do it as well14:06
mvoseb128: I'm in various calls today, so if you have time that would be cool, if not I will do my best14:06
seb128mvo, oh ok, I use rename ... rename s#language-selector-## *.po14:07
seb128mvo, works as well ;-)14:07
seb128mvo, will do it, thanks14:07
mvoseb128: aha, nice - learned a new command, i used mmv, seems like they are doing roughly the same14:07
glatzormvo, the patch was rejected by upstream?14:10
mvoglatzor: yes, they said *never* change the fsencoding after starting14:10
mvoglatzor: because of stuff like sys.path that gets initialized very early and if that is is in a different encoding on startup than its later things will fail14:11
didrocksmterry: hey, how are you?14:14
mterrydidrocks, hello!  good14:14
didrocksmterry: great! I hope it will still be good, we noticed a regression in lightdm in the way session transition is handled :)14:15
didrocksmterry: you know that we remove the ubuntu-2d session I guess :)14:15
didrocksand I used the same trick (and it was working around FF) so that "if session == ubuntu-2d -> session = ubuntu"14:15
didrocksseems it doesn't work anymore and the logs still shows it's trying to open (and fail) the ubuntu-2d session if this is what you last logged with14:16
mterrySeems bd14:16
didrocksit is :/14:16
mterryThis is your bug 105913714:17
ubot2Launchpad bug 1059137 in lightdm "Cannot login after un upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 (ubuntu-2d)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105913714:17
didrocksI tried to poke a little bit at it, looking at where the dmrc was loaded and what was executed, but I'm afraid to miss some cases like autologin and so on14:17
didrocksmterry: exactly, please look at my comment: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1059137/comments/2114:17
ubot2Ubuntu bug 1059137 in lightdm "Cannot login after un upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 (ubuntu-2d)" [High,Confirmed]14:17
didrocksI bet that the account services is coming into play14:17
lamalexchrisccoulson, have you tried to set up a canonical mail account with the thunderbird in Q?14:17
mterrydidrocks, will look into this; I wish robert_ancell were online14:19
didrocksmterry: thanks! yeah, it's really something which will be good to sneak in :)14:20
mterrydidrocks, ooh, I'm guessing we just have to patch the accounts service bit in the same file14:21
mterrydidrocks, looks like you didn't happen to try that14:21
mterrydidrocks, load_accounts_service in user.c14:21
seb128mterry, hey, how are you? had a good W.E? did you visit Boston Summit?14:21
mterryseb128, yeah, briefly14:22
mterryseb128, was nice to see desrt and jbicha and other people that I recognized but did not remember the names of  :)14:22
didrocksmterry: oh right, this can work14:22
didrocksmterry: I'm still puzzled that we are using .dmrc and this service :)14:23
seb128mterry, hehe ... let's see if you will remember them next time ;-)14:23
seb128mterry, you need to come to GUADEC for an harder challenge :p14:23
mterrydidrocks, I know...  It's because not all desktop environments that lightdm supports support dmrc14:23
mterryseb128, I will not.  My mind is a sieve for names14:23
didrocksmterry: want to give it a shot at patching this one?14:23
mterryseb128, unless they have name tags at GUADEC...?14:23
didrocksmterry: it's still time for finale :)14:23
seb128mterry, they do ;-)14:24
didrocks(the gates are closing, but we can push it! :p)14:24
mterrydidrocks, sure, is there a trivial way to test it without actually doing an upgrade?  tell accounts service I'm unity-2d?14:24
didrocksmterry: what I did is cp the ubuntu.desktop to ubuntu-2d.desktop14:24
didrocksthen log in14:25
didrocksthen, getting on ui :p Ctrl + alt + t (compiz is running)14:25
mterryah ok14:25
didrocksand done! I logged once! :)14:25
seb128mterry, didrocks: I did it using d-feet14:26
seb128mterry, just go to org.freedesktop.Accounts User1000 (or your id), .User -> SetXSession14:27
didrocksbetter to ensure you are in a real state, no?14:28
didrockslike with dmrc + account services :)14:28
seb128well I edited both14:28
didrocksI'm afraid of bad surprises :p14:28
didrocksok ;)14:28
seb128that worked in my vm for testing14:28
mterryseb128, didrocks: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1269350/ seemed to work for me14:40
didrocksmterry: \o/14:40
mterrydidrocks, I'll push now anyway for time reasons, but if you could double confirm, I'd appreciate it (unless you're super busy, but when has that ever been true, amiright?)14:41
seb128mterry, excellent14:41
didrocksmterry: can do, one sec14:41
didrocksmterry: so you remove the dmrc part?14:41
mterrydidrocks, no14:42
seb128mterry, busy?  us? never...14:42
didrocksmterry: you do from the patch :)14:42
mterrydidrocks, I just move the code to a function that runs both the dmrc and accountsservice bits14:42
didrocksok :)14:42
didrocks     load_dmrc (user);14:42
didrocks     load_accounts_service (user); // overrides dmrc values14:42
didrocks-> no kidding why it was overriden :p14:42
didrockstesting, brb14:44
didrocksmterry: it seems to excellently work! :)14:48
mterrydidrocks, yay!  Sorry I broke your patch.  I wasn't aware of it at the time14:48
didrocksmterry: no worry, we got it sorted before finale, that's already a start :)14:49
seb128I wonder of mterry and desrt are making a joined effort to break didrocks' code in turn14:49
didrocksit's a plague :)14:49
didrocksthey try it and play with it :)14:49
Laneysubject: [ubuntu/quantal] webkit 1.10.0-0ubuntu1 (Accepted)15:00
bcurtiswxanyone here who uses two monitors try dragging a window to maximize on the rightmost monitor15:02
bcurtiswxmine always goes to the leftmost monitor15:03
bcurtiswxmy setup is main monitor on left side15:04
popeybcurtiswx, your monitors are different sizes?15:05
bcurtiswxpopey, yes15:05
popeybcurtiswx, and it incorrectly maximises on the smaller one?15:06
Laneyoh yeah I've had that15:06
popeyBug #94702515:06
ubot2Launchpad bug 947025 in ayatana-design "Windows maximize on the wrong monitor (dup-of: 751605)" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94702515:06
ubot2Launchpad bug 751605 in compiz "Multi-monitor - Windows maximize on the wrong monitor" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75160515:06
LaneyI think it's when the window unmaximises and is bigger than the target monitor15:06
Laneyit pings back to where it came from15:06
bcurtiswxpopey, thx :)15:06
popeyit just needs to overhang the small monitor a tiny bit15:06
popeymost annoying bug in 12.04 for me15:07
bcurtiswxAh i see that overhang..15:07
LaneyI don't see that it has to go onto the second monitor15:08
Laneygoing off the screen /at all/ (usually at the bottom) does it here15:08
mterryseb128, what about bug 1059576 ?15:11
ubot2Launchpad bug 1059576 in unity-firefox-extension "Integration script prompt leads to untrusted download" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105957615:11
mterryor maybe I should ask kenvandine ? ^15:11
seb128mterry, yeah, better to ask ken15:11
mterryBugging the heck out of me15:11
seb128mterry, of go directly to the webapps guys and check it's planned on their list for today15:11
kenvandinemterry, where are you seeing that?15:12
kenvandineyou shouldn't see any prompt15:12
kenvandinethat was fixed in aptdaemon over the weekend15:12
mterrykenvandine, right after clicking "Install" when prompted by firefox15:12
* mterry checks if updates are available15:12
kenvandineand why would universe be untrusted?15:13
Laneyspeaking of webapps, did mdeslaur's security concerns get addressed?15:13
mterryseb128, I did yesterday, but not response yet15:13
kenvandineLaney, ^^15:13
seb128mterry, yesterday was an US holiday so some of the guys were missing, try again?15:13
mterrykenvandine, am I using the wrong site?  I've been testing with gmail15:13
kenvandinemterry, those packages come from universe15:13
kenvandinemterry, it is installing a package from universe, not actually downloading anything from the web15:14
mterrykenvandine, yeah, I have the aptdaemon with the supposed fix15:15
kenvandineand you've restarted?15:15
mterrykenvandine, yeah15:15
mterrykenvandine, so it works for you?15:15
mterryI'll talk to webapps guys15:15
kenvandinebut regardless, i am confused why it says untrusted for you15:16
kenvandineeven if you get prompted, why would packages from universe be untrusted?15:16
kenvandinemterry, apt-cache policy unity-webapps-launchpad15:16
kenvandinemterry, make sure the candidate is from universe15:16
mterrykenvandine, uninstalled, from universse15:16
mterrysame for the gmail one15:17
kenvandineok, so whatever is making it think it is untrusted15:17
kenvandineis probably the same reason you are getting prompted15:17
kenvandinethe aptdaemon whitelist stuff has some protection15:17
kenvandinethe whitelist is for unity-webapps-* from universe15:18
kenvandinemterry, if you install unity-webapps-launchpad with apt-get15:19
kenvandinedoes it prompt you for an untrusted package?15:19
didrockslaunchpad & youtube doesn't work for me15:21
didrocks(the webapps integration)15:22
didrocksgmail does work15:22
kenvandinedidrocks, flaky...15:22
didrocksyeah :/15:22
didrocksah, g+ appeared and not no…15:22
didrockslet me screenrecord that15:23
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seb128kenvandine, didrocks, chrisccoulson, Ursinha, Laney, mlankhorst, cyphermox, mterry, tkamppeter, robru: it's meeting time, if anyone has a topic (none on the wiki so far), also please update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2012-10-09 with things you worked on this week for those who didn't write anything yet15:33
kenvandinemeeting time already...15:34
mterryThese meetings get so fast after FF  :)15:40
didrocksmterry: want to make it longer so that you get for your money? :p15:41
mterrydidrocks, I think we've experimented plenty with longer feature periods  :)15:42
didrocksheh ;)15:42
GunnarHjseb128: Hi Sebastien!15:48
GunnarHjseb128: jbicha and I have talked quite a lot about bug 1035219, but not agreed on anything yet. This is from yesterday: http://people.ubuntu.com/~gunnarhj/jbicha-gunnarhj-gnome-disc-121008.txt15:48
ubot2Launchpad bug 1035219 in baltix "In System Settings preference tool/keyboard layouts page automaticaly wrong language selectedGNOME" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103521915:48
GunnarHjseb128: Maybe you can help decide which one of us is the most obstinate. ;-)15:48
seb128GunnarHj, hey ;-)15:49
seb128GunnarHj, well, I think that if one of the GNOME "remix" flavors want to have a broken functionality it's their call at the end...15:51
seb128GunnarHj, we should really go with the upstream UI and make it work next cycle, I hope we can have good discussion at UDS about that15:51
GunnarHjseb128: Agree on both. But it disturbs me that the broken functionality affect also those who didn't use the Remix ISO.15:53
seb128GunnarHj, right it's not the default desktop though and language-selector is still installed and you can easily run it on an Ubuntu install with GNOME added15:54
seb128GunnarHj, it's only the GNOME remix which misses it15:54
seb128dpm, still around?15:58
dpmseb128, yes15:58
seb128dpm, do you remember if something in the yelp stack need langpack exports as well?15:58
seb128it used to be the case but I think it was when we customized the start page from there15:59
GunnarHjseb128: Please note that if you install standard Ubuntu and then the gnome-session-fallback package and then pick one of the GNOME session options when logging in, the Keyboard Layout capplet includes tabs that don't work properly. That's what the bug is about.16:00
dpmseb128, I think you're right, we don't need to do those exports anymore, but let me check with kelemengabor, he's pretty clued up about these things16:00
seb128GunnarHj, right, it has potential to confuse some users but:16:01
seb128- it's not the default desktop16:01
dpmseb128, hm, he's not online, but I think I'm pretty certain that we don't need the yelp exports16:01
seb128- it's well hidden in some system settings pane16:01
seb128- language selector is still available for those users and work16:01
seb128dpm, ok, I think it's not needed either, if you check and it turns out to be needed let me know tomorrow and we can try to sneak that in still16:02
seb128GunnarHj, so I don't like it much but at the same time it's not the only issue we have and it's not the end of the world...16:02
dpmseb128, ack, thanks16:02
seb128GunnarHj, we should fix that for good next cycle though16:02
seb128dpm, thank you! ;-)16:02
GunnarHjseb128: True, it's not the most serious bug you can think of. Still annoying (and unnecessary, I think). Well, well...16:03
seb128GunnarHj, I could write a book about annoying bugs existing in Ubuntu ;-)16:04
GunnarHjseb128: Unfortunately I believe you. :(16:04
pittidon't we call that bugs.lp.net?16:19
seb128pitti, that's not a book, that's an encyclopedia rather16:22
kenvandinethat's more like a library16:30
seb128kenvandine, well, since it *includes* a library it's probably bigger than that ;-)16:32
seb128bcurtiswx, hi17:52
bcurtiswxseb128, hi17:52
seb128bcurtiswx, that would be something for mvo (or maybe chrisccoulson)17:53
seb128though I updated update-notifier but only for translations, there is no code change in that diff17:53
bcurtiswxseb128, maybe it was a bad timing on my part, i tried another update/upgrade and it cured itself17:56
cyphermoxdisregard me, I was just being laggy19:15
chrisccoulsonmoo? that's the sound i like to hear from my steak19:16
seb128chrisccoulson, lol19:18
seb128chrisccoulson, I hope they have something else than fish in Copenhagen ;-)19:18
mdeslaurugh, fish, yuck19:20
chrisccoulsonseb128, yeah, me too ;)19:30
chrisccoulsoni don't think i could survive a UDS week without eating steak at least once19:30
chrisccoulsonalthough, i have to eat small steaks now ;)19:30
seb128chrisccoulson, count on the steak^Wteam dinner, I'm sure Jason will do what is humanly possible for it ;-)19:30
cyphermoxmmm.. steak19:37
cyphermoxI can't ever get good steak in Quebec, somehow19:38
seb128robert_ancell, hey, you suck ... just saying ;-)20:00
robert_ancellseb128, oh, nice to see you too20:00
seb128robert_ancell, ;-)20:01
seb128robert_ancell, there package, take that one tarball you had to update, you will get quite some more work, enjoy20:01
seb128there packagers*20:01
seb128robert_ancell, the gnome-games split20:02
seb128hate when something easy to build is becoming a stack of sources20:02
robert_ancellor being much more consistent with everything else20:03
seb128yeah, I hated when gnome-utils did it as well, that's consistent :p20:03
robert_ancellare you going to tell me you liked GNOME2 better as well ;)20:03
robert_ancelldamn kids making progress. get off my lawn!20:03
seb128well, GNOME2 was alright, nothing compared to GNOME1 though20:04
robert_ancellpff, you should have seen GNOME020:04
seb128oh, kids listen, grandpa is talking20:04
robert_ancellseb128, so I see you broke telepathy20:04
seb128what? me? never20:05
czajkowskiseb128: surely never breaks anything :)20:05
seb128robert_ancell, ^ see!20:05
robert_ancellIt makes me feel less bad about breaking things when I see seb doing it too20:05
seb128robert_ancell, I ask for proofs20:05
robert_ancellit floated to the top of errors.ubuntu.com and you were the last uploader20:06
robert_ancellsure I didn't dig much further20:06
seb128yeah, it's desrt/slangasek's fault20:06
robert_ancellhah, redirected blame!20:06
seb128it's the XDG_RUNTIME_DIR stuff not playing nicely with apparmor20:07
desrtapparmor is not my fault :)20:11
seb128desrt, well, apparmor didn't like that libdconf tries to open the db in RW OCREATE20:12
desrtit doesn't.20:12
desrtit opens a shared memory region as such20:12
desrtand it always did that...20:13
desrtbut because some path changed due to a complicated system change that applications have absolutely no business even knowing the existence of, the apparmor rules need to be rewritten20:13
seb128they have been,are20:14
desrtgood :)20:14
Sweetsha1kseb128: armhf did successfully build.20:18
seb128Sweetsha1k, \o/20:19
* Sweetsha1k disperses all the evil demons lurking around waiting to cause me coronary attacks.20:19
Sweetsha1kseb128: Java JIT compiliation is lame, look at LibreOffice packages on Ubuntu. Thats were true (black) magic happens. </sarc>20:20
Sweetsha1kogra_: thanks for taking care of bug 1062448 on ubuntu-meta.20:22
ubot2Launchpad bug 1062448 in ubuntu-meta "soffice.bin crashed with SIGSEGV in lucene::index::IndexFileNames::fileNameFromGeneration()" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106244820:22
* Sweetsha1k will then proceed to award himself some nice builder for the next cycle. Ordering a 2*opteron6272/32GB RAM machine tomorrow.20:24
TheMusoseb128: Thanks for your action on bug 105630021:05
ubot2Launchpad bug 1056300 in ubiquity "If a GTK application quits the main loop and restarts it again, accessibility is lost." [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105630021:05
seb128TheMuso, hey, how are you?21:06
seb128TheMuso, yw21:06
seb128TheMuso, thanks for tracking the commit down ;-)21:06
mterry_robert_ancell, is there a tests/data/remote-sessions directory that you forgot to commit to lightdm bzr?21:21
robert_ancellmterry_, on trunk?21:22
mterry_robert_ancell, oh on trunk I see it.  Hm21:23
TheMusoseb128: No problem.21:30
TheMusoAnd I am well thanks.21:30
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jonoSweetsha1k, hey23:01
jonoSweetsha1k, are you getting no menus in LO?23:01
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bcurtiswxjono, libreoffice? want me to check mine?23:44
jonobcurtiswx, sure23:46
jonothat would be great23:46
bcurtiswxjono, any specific one. like writer, calc?23:46
bcurtiswxwriter has menu's23:46
bcurtiswxjono, the main window has menu's and so does calc23:48
jonobcurtiswx, neither seems to work for me23:48
bcurtiswxlibreoffice-writer: Installed: 1:3.6.2~rc2-0ubuntu323:48
jonobcurtiswx, aha, it seems Impress doesnt for me23:48
jonobut Writer does23:48
jonocan you try Impress?23:49
bcurtiswxjono, Impress menu's work23:49
jononow it works23:50
jonoit seems like a focus issue for me23:50
bcurtiswxunity issue then?23:50
jonoseems soi23:50
jonothanks bcurtiswx23:51
bcurtiswxjono, yw23:51

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