[15:58] <jamespage> o/
[15:59] <jamespage> ooo - rbasak in the chair....
[15:59] <Daviey> \o (I'm not going to be that active this meeting.. concurrent phonecall)
[16:00] <rbasak> #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team
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[16:00] <rbasak> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:00] <rbasak> • jamespage and Ursinha to look into aligning release team and server team tracking reports
[16:00] <jamespage> please carry forards
[16:01] <rbasak> [action] jamespage and Ursinha to look into aligning release team and server team tracking reports
[16:01] <meetingology> ACTION: jamespage and Ursinha to look into aligning release team and server team tracking reports
[16:01] <rbasak> • jamespage to provide info to hggdh about how to run iSCSI and MAAS tests for the ISO
[16:01] <jamespage> again I've #failed
[16:01] <rbasak> Carry forwards also?
[16:01] <jamespage> hggdh - I'll ping you my iscsi testing branch now
[16:02] <jamespage> rbasak, yp
[16:02] <rbasak> [action] jamespage to provide info to hggdh about how to run iSCSI and MAAS tests for the ISO
[16:02] <meetingology> ACTION: jamespage to provide info to hggdh about how to run iSCSI and MAAS tests for the ISO
[16:02] <rbasak> #topic Quantal Development
[16:02] <rbasak> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule
[16:02] <rbasak> Final freeze is today
[16:02] <rbasak> #subtopic Release Bugs
[16:02] <rbasak> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html
[16:03] <rbasak> There's one critical bug - bug 1064420 which just came in and Daviey assigned to adam_g
[16:03] <rbasak> Should I go through the others?
[16:03] <ScottK> Final freeze is just for Main/seeded Universe packages.  Unseeded packages can still be uploaded after today.
[16:04] <adam_g> rbasak: i just got notification that the new theme is done and ready for packaging. will upload this morning if zul hasn't gottne to it already
[16:04] <rbasak> Great, thanks!
[16:04] <arosales> rbasak: yes lets tough on the others
[16:05] <rbasak> bug 978963
[16:05] <rbasak> This was targeted to 12.04
[16:05] <rbasak> Should we still be tracking it?
[16:06] <jamespage> I think it still needs documenting in the release notes
[16:06]  * jamespage takes the bug to save pain
[16:06] <rbasak> thanks jamespage!
[16:06] <rbasak> bug 1049305
[16:07] <rbasak> This looks like it's still not reproducable
[16:07] <adam_g> ya im not sure about that one
[16:07] <rbasak> Should we still be tracking this?
[16:08] <rbasak> cjwatson: bug 1050595 is still in progress I presume?
[16:08] <adam_g> rbasak: i would say no, unless its confirmed
[16:08] <jamespage> adam_g, +1
[16:09] <rbasak> I don't have permission to remove ~ubuntu-server-release-tracking from bug 1049305
[16:09] <rbasak> arosales: can you do it please?
[16:09] <cjwatson> rbasak: I'll update it today or tomorrow - I've been investigating on and off, modulo secure boot pain
[16:10] <rbasak> thanks cjwatson!
[16:10] <cjwatson> rbasak: I think the result is going to be bouncing it to you guys for doc updates after all - what way should I do that?
[16:10] <arosales> rbasak: sure, I'll update 1049305
[16:10] <cjwatson> I'll check one more time but I couldn't make it work at 128M with the framebuffer on
[16:10] <cjwatson> so while maybe lowmem should be updated, it's kind of moot
[16:10] <jamespage> cjwatson, assign to me and I'll deal with it alongside the install size stuff
[16:11] <cjwatson> ok
[16:11] <rbasak> jamespage: thanks, and that answers bug 1053770 as well I guess?
[16:11] <jamespage> yep
[16:11] <rbasak> bug 1046340
[16:11] <rbasak> This is currently unassigned
[16:12] <rbasak> Any volunteers, or shall I leave it for next week?
[16:13] <jamespage> please do
[16:13] <rbasak> And finally bug 1059907
[16:13] <rbasak> I'm not sure zul's here so we can leave that as well as it's Low.
[16:13] <zul> its not going to get fixed today unfortunately
[16:14] <rbasak> What do we do for the other stuff on the release bug page?
[16:14] <rbasak> I see one ARM ftbfs
[16:14] <rbasak> Some MIRs
[16:15] <jamespage> ftbfs looks like a non-issue - things are up-to-date
[16:16] <jamespage> mirs all juju apart from the last one
[16:16] <jamespage> so no longer current
[16:16] <arosales> jamespage: should we touch on http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[16:16] <jamespage> yeah
[16:16] <jamespage> rbasak, want me to do that?
[16:16] <rbasak> jamespage: please!
[16:17] <rbasak> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[16:17] <jamespage> this is the interesting link: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-tracking-bug-tasks.html#server
[16:17] <jamespage> SpamapS - hoping we get a 0.6 release of Juju today which closes a few of those....
[16:18] <rbasak> Should we have this link in the regular agenda?
[16:18] <jamespage> yes
[16:18]  * rbasak adds it
[16:19] <hallyn> for bug 1017847, i'm still debating (and will probably discuss at uds) what to do about foreign arches at lxc-create
[16:19] <hallyn> so id shouldn't ahve the rls-q-tracking tg probably
[16:20] <jamespage> hallyn - ok - just drop the quantal task from the bug then
[16:20] <hallyn> tag?
[16:20] <jamespage> zul: bug 861656 still relevant?
[16:20] <hallyn> jamespage: i see a quantal tag, but not a task for quantal
[16:20] <zul> jamespage: yeah
[16:21] <jamespage> hallyn, sorry - its release-q-notfixing (just did it)
[16:21] <hallyn> kthx
[16:21] <hallyn> bug 1057024 also should have that tag dropped - we'll look into it during uds
[16:21] <jamespage> smoser: any comments on the maas related bugs?
[16:22] <jamespage> bug 994781
[16:22] <jamespage> bug 975468
[16:22] <smoser> i'll take a look at those.
[16:22] <jamespage> smoser: great - thanks
[16:22] <jamespage> I'll not list them all....
[16:22] <smoser> if they're not fixed in trunk at this point (som of them are) then they're not getting fixed before SRU
[16:23] <jamespage> smoser: please re-target tasks as appropriate (or Won't fix if need be)
[16:23] <jamespage> ivoks is not around for the dovecot one
[16:23] <jamespage> rbasak, time to move on from bugs I think
[16:23] <rbasak> #subtopic Blueprints
[16:24] <rbasak> #link http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/group/topic-quantal-servercloud-overview.html
[16:24] <jamespage> please don't ask me about servercloud-q-bug-triage-review
[16:24] <jamespage> rbasak, want me to run through those as well
[16:24] <rbasak> Please
[16:24]  * jamespage that way I can avoid hard questions...
[16:25] <jamespage> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-charms
[16:25] <jamespage> adam_g, all on track for release?
[16:26] <jamespage> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-qa
[16:26] <jamespage> adam_g, zul - we need to start postponing those and adding them into R blueprints
[16:26] <zul> agreed ill do it
[16:27] <jamespage> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-open-attestation
[16:27] <jamespage> almost done - targetting partner so can be a little late
[16:27] <jamespage> m_3, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charm-unit-tests
[16:28] <jamespage> or maybe jimbaker
[16:29] <jamespage> finally https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charm-best-practices
[16:29] <jamespage> SpamapS/m_3 again
[16:29] <jimbaker> jamespage, i'm finalizing a test wrapper (jitsu test) to make the unit testing more reliable
[16:29] <jamespage> I guess my final comment is that we really need to be postponing any outstanding work items that won't get done in the next 7 days
[16:30] <jamespage> sorry 10 days
[16:30] <jimbaker> with the idea that it can be run by either jenkins or a developer directly
[16:30] <jamespage> carry stuff over to UDS-R if need be - but leave yourself enough time to prepare (rather than rushing to finish non-critical work items)
[16:30] <arosales> final 10 day push :-)
[16:30] <jamespage> rbasak, thats me done
[16:30] <rbasak> thanks jamespage!
[16:31] <jamespage> jimbaker, thanks for the update
[16:31] <jamespage> np
[16:31] <rbasak> #subtopic Review obsolete configs found by QA
[16:31] <rbasak> #link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-September/001926.html
[16:31] <rbasak> arosales added this to the agenda on 14 September, but I don't see that it was discussed last week. Does this still need to be there?
[16:32] <rbasak> I skip it for now then I guess
[16:32] <rbasak> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:32] <TheLordOfTime> rbasak, if i'm reading that right, some of those bugs were fixed
[16:32] <TheLordOfTime> according to LP at elast
[16:33] <jamespage> something called UDS is happening in a few weeks
[16:33] <rbasak> The agenda also has: CFP deadlines -     SoCal Linux Expo (Deadline: Dec. 10) http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/cfp
[16:33] <arosales> rbasak: that list may be a bit old, but we should sync up with QA on what configs are still old
[16:33] <jamespage> Copenhagen
[16:33] <rbasak> arosales: I presume that's tracked in the individual bugs?
[16:33] <jamespage> see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2012-October/006403.html for details on how to raise sessions for discussion
[16:34] <arosales> hggdh: we should sync up on cofigs, re https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-September/001926.html
[16:34] <arosales> rbasak: yes, I think they are
[16:34] <rbasak> Any other events?
[16:34] <arosales> rbasak: it looks like  gema has them listed under relevant bugs
[16:35] <rbasak> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
[16:35] <rbasak> hggdh: over to you
[16:36] <rbasak> I guess he's not here.
[16:36] <rbasak> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)
[16:36] <smb> Not much to report beyond the hope of having resolved bug 1021471 for most people, except it seems for people using wl. Somewhat hoping for a bit of time without new problems to get back to the known things I failed to have time for.
[16:36] <smb> ..
[16:36] <rbasak> Any questions for smb?
[16:37] <SpamapS> smb: for the netns bug..
[16:37] <SpamapS> smb: You have a fix comitted for the route cache clearing..
[16:37] <SpamapS> smb: and we'll open a new bug for WL, right?
[16:37] <smb> SpamapS, Right
[16:38] <hallyn> smb: have you tested the 3.5.6-stable tree by chance?
[16:38] <hallyn> might get us some extra review of the patch and remaining bug on SpamapS' laptop
[16:38] <smb> hallyn, no that arrived later but I did not see anything addressing the first half
[16:39] <smb> hallyn, for the second that seemed to be still in 3.6, right?
[16:39] <smb> SpamapS, ^
[16:39] <SpamapS> smb: right, its in 3.6
[16:39] <SpamapS> I suspect WL is not doing something its supposed to do
[16:40] <hallyn> i think so.  my point was we can get lkml to care about the bug still in upstream, but then we can get the 3.5.6-stable tree (gregkh owns it) to care about the other bug
[16:40] <smb> hallyn, upstream is likely not to care that much about wl
[16:40] <hallyn> anyways - awesome job finding the fix!  (or workaround)
[16:40] <SpamapS> I suspect WL is not doing something its supposed to do
[16:40] <SpamapS> doh sorry
[16:40] <hallyn> smb: true.
[16:40] <SpamapS> smb: wouldn't upstream for WL be broadcom?
[16:41] <smb> SpamapS, Yeah, somehow. Not sure there is much influence on them
[16:42] <smb> for part 1 i hope at some point and after some prodding we could get it to stable upstream
[16:43] <SpamapS> smb: seems critical enough
[16:43] <rbasak> OK, anything else for smb?
[16:44] <rbasak> Thanks smb!
[16:44] <rbasak> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)
[16:44] <rbasak> MAAS on ARM is looking good! Everything bar squashfs should ship with 12.10, with out-of-the-box support for highbank.
[16:44] <rbasak> Note that a maas-enlist SRU (bug 1056816) is still pending. I posted a workaround to maas-devel.
[16:44] <rbasak> Also, you have to use "juju bootstrap --contraints arch=arm" even if your MAAS cluster is entirely arm. I don't like this so I filed bug 1064291 on this today.
[16:44] <rbasak> Any questions for me?
[16:45] <arosales> rbasak: thanks for continuing to hammer on ARM support in MAAS :-)	
[16:45] <rbasak> No problem!
[16:46] <rbasak> #topic Open Discussion
[16:46] <SpamapS> just to revisit on Juju..
[16:47] <SpamapS> I'll be releasing Juju 0.6 shortly..
[16:47] <SpamapS> followed by an FFE and (hopefully) upload to quantal.
[16:47] <jimbaker> SpamapS, awesome
[16:48] <rbasak> That sounds great. Thanks SpamapS!
[16:48] <rbasak> Any other business?
[16:48] <Daviey> SpamapS: i looked at the FFe you raised last week and ack'd that.. Needs a refresh for the latest commits
[16:48] <SpamapS> Daviey: right, should I open the new one?
[16:49] <SpamapS> Daviey: *technically* all the commits just fix bugs in the local provider... but.. with a major refactoring ;)
[16:49] <Daviey> SpamapS: nah, just bump the latest one
[16:49] <Daviey> SpamapS: I'm pretty sure it's a documentation exercise right now, but would be good to confirm.
[16:49] <SpamapS> Daviey: agreed
[16:49] <SpamapS> Daviey: the new local provider is less broken than the old one, but still a major change late in the release.
[16:50] <jamespage> SpamapS, feel free to use bug 1063697
[16:50] <jamespage> I think I did most of the doc work already
[16:50] <SpamapS> jamespage: sweet
[16:52] <rbasak> I guess that's it then.
[16:52] <rbasak> #topic Announce next meeting date and time
[16:52] <rbasak> The next meeting will be at Tue, 16 Oct 2012 16:00:00 +0000.
[16:52] <rbasak> Thanks everyone!
[16:52] <rbasak> #endmeeting
[16:52] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Oct  9 16:52:26 2012 UTC.
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[16:53] <arosales> rbasak: thanks for chair'ing :-)
[16:53] <SpamapS> rbasak: yes, ^5
[17:00] <jsalisbury> #startmeeting
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting.
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting
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[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Quantal
[17:00] <jsalisbury> # Meeting Etiquette
[17:00] <jsalisbury> #
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[17:00] <jsalisbury> Roll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting
[17:00] <ppisati> o/
[17:00] <ogasawara> o/
[17:00] <herton> o/
[17:00] <henrix> o/
[17:00] <rtg_> o/
[17:00] <sconklin> o/
[17:00] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati)
[17:00] <ppisati> Q/omap4: nothing new to report this week.
[17:00] <ppisati> Q/master-next: patches were submitted to fix the usb bus on omap3 boards (see lp 1061599 for more info).
[17:00] <ppisati> ..
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury)
[17:01] <jsalisbury> Release metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link:
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt
[17:01] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara)
[17:01] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/canonical-kernel-distro-team-ubuntu-12.10.html
[17:01] <ogasawara> || ogasawara   || hardware-q-kernel-misc          || 2 work item  ||
[17:01] <ogasawara> ||             || hardware-q-kernel-version-and-flavors || 2 work items ||
[17:01] <ogasawara> ||             || desktop-q-xorg-lts-updates      || 1 work item  ||
[17:01] <ogasawara> I am now the proud owner of all remaining work items.  I'll be sure to
[17:01] <ogasawara> close these out asap.  I don't think we need to have this item on our
[17:01] <ogasawara> agenda for the remaining meetings this release.
[17:01] <ogasawara> ..
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Quantal Development Kernel (ogasawara)
[17:01] <ogasawara> We have received a freeze exception and are planning to upload the
[17:01] <ogasawara> 3.5.0-18.28 today.  This will provide critical bug fixes for the 12.10
[17:01] <ogasawara> release.  The bugs include:
[17:01] <ogasawara>  * 1063061 "please backport support for EFI vars > 1KB"
[17:01] <ogasawara>  * 1061599 "beagle: omap3: usb is dead"
[17:01] <ogasawara>  * 1021471 "clone() hang when creating new network namespace"
[17:01] <ogasawara>  * 1030233 "not have bluetooth usb 0489:e046 Foxconn / Hon Hai"
[17:01] <ogasawara>  * 717970 "After sleep, key presses get lost and trackpad is jittery"
[17:02] <ogasawara> As a reminder, because we are in kernel freeze, all patches are subject
[17:02] <ogasawara> to the SRU policy and only critical bug fixes will warrent an upload.
[17:02] <ogasawara> Non critical bug fixes and changes will be targetted to the first
[17:02] <ogasawara> Quantal SRU kernel. As usual, all kernels will also get uploaded to the
[17:02] <ogasawara> q-lts-backport [1] PPA to help facilitate testing of the 12.10 kernel in
[17:02] <ogasawara> 12.04.  We welcome anyone to please install, test, and let us know your
[17:02] <ogasawara> feedback.
[17:02] <ogasawara> [1] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/q-lts-backport
[17:02] <ogasawara> Important upcoming dates:
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * Tues Oct 9 - Final Freeze (today!)
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * Thurs Oct 11 - Release Candidate (~2days)
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * Thurs Oct 18 - 12.10 Final (~1 week)
[17:02] <ogasawara> ..
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: CVE's (sconklin)
[17:02] <sconklin> == 2012-10-09 (weekly) ==
[17:02] <sconklin> Currently we have 39 CVEs on our radar, with one CVE added and one retired this week.
[17:02] <sconklin> See the CVE matrix for the current list:
[17:02] <sconklin> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html
[17:02] <sconklin> Overall the backlog has decreased slightly this week:
[17:02] <sconklin> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt
[17:02] <sconklin> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt
[17:02] <sconklin> ..
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Precise/Oneiric/Natty/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/herton/henrix)
[17:03] <henrix> Here is the status for the main kernels, until today (October 09):
[17:03] <henrix>  * Hardy - In -updates; 1 CVEs; (1 commits)
[17:03] <henrix>  * Lucid - In Testing; 3 CVEs; (12 commits)
[17:03] <henrix>  * Oneiric - In Testing; 2 CVEs; 1 upstream stable release(s); (54 commits)
[17:03] <henrix>  * Precise - In Testing; 1 CVEs; 2 upstream stable release(s); (234 commits)
[17:03] <henrix> Current opened tracking bugs details:
[17:03] <henrix>  * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html
[17:03] <henrix> For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:
[17:03] <henrix>  * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html
[17:03] <henrix> Future stable cadence cycles:
[17:03] <henrix>  * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseInterlock
[17:03] <henrix> ..
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)
[17:04] <jsalisbury> Thanks everyone
[17:04] <jsalisbury> #endmeeting
[17:04] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Oct  9 17:04:35 2012 UTC.
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[17:04] <arges> missed it
[17:04] <kamal> thanks jsalisbury
[17:04] <sconklin> thanks