| === `Cat` is now known as NimChimpsky | ||
| bootlfdhfrsa | mornin' All .. Sun just came up ... lovely and Cold out there ! .. better put heating on this morning ... Make a note to turn it off before work though ! | 06:46 |
|---|---|---|
| christel | morning | 07:16 |
| czajkowski | bleugh | 07:45 |
| Myrtti | yeah, something like that | 07:47 |
| theopensourcerer | *!MORNING!* | 07:50 |
| popey | *\o/* | 07:50 |
| theopensourcerer | Moar coffee. | 07:50 |
| theopensourcerer | This guy is NUTS!!! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19860249 | 07:53 |
| popey | http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/blackberry-playbook-tablet-pc-32gb-10647931-pdt.html | 07:54 |
| popey | cheapo | 07:54 |
| theopensourcerer | Blimey - that is cheap. | 07:54 |
| popey | 16GB Nexus 7 is 190 | 07:56 |
| diplo | Morning | 08:07 |
| diplo | Blimey that is cheap, did i read somewhere that they were going to get Android apps running on it as well ? | 08:08 |
| gord | i could get one of them and it could sit in the closet next to my joggler | 08:11 |
| diplo | hah | 08:12 |
| * AlanBell wants a tablet that is known to run Ubuntu | 08:13 | |
| popey | :) | 08:13 |
| === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk | ||
| gord | i want a tablet running the zx spectrum os, will a full keyboard and internal tape-deck | 08:15 |
| gord | it would be awesome | 08:15 |
| daubers | gord: Get some SD cards made up to look like tiny tapes? | 08:16 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all! :-D | 08:16 |
| === iahmad_ is now known as iahmad|lunch | ||
| gord | daubers, how is that anywhere near as cool :( | 08:26 |
| SuperMatt | all righty, if I want to talk quickly dev with people, which channel should I inhabit? | 08:28 |
| diplo | SuperMatt: quickly ide ? | 08:31 |
| diplo | thingy | 08:31 |
| diplo | #quickly I think works, was on there a while ago myself | 08:31 |
| SuperMatt | cool | 08:32 |
| SuperMatt | unless anyone here know's the answer | 08:32 |
| diplo | I'm a n00b myself at it, but might as well ask | 08:32 |
| SuperMatt | I'm following jono's video tutorial, which is great, but I've just got to about 09:50 where he sets the label for his refresh button and I just can't set the label :( | 08:32 |
| diplo | Got the link to the vid ? | 08:33 |
| SuperMatt | http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/ | 08:33 |
| SuperMatt | mine's just greyed out | 08:33 |
| SuperMatt | I am doing this in quantal, if it makes a difference | 08:33 |
| diplo | So add button is greyed out ? | 08:34 |
| SuperMatt | no, I can add it, but I can't set the label | 08:34 |
| SuperMatt | quite a lot of options are greyed out | 08:35 |
| diplo | Just installing on my box now and see if it is, on;y have it installed at home | 08:35 |
| SuperMatt | thanks | 08:35 |
| diplo | 2 secs ( Im on precise, so at least we can see if it's an issue ) | 08:35 |
| SuperMatt | legendary | 08:37 |
| diplo | Works fine for me, just set label test | 08:43 |
| SuperMatt | must be a quantal thing :/ | 08:47 |
| diplo | I may have to have a play with quickly again now | 08:48 |
| SuperMatt | hah | 08:48 |
| diplo | I've got Quantal at home, will try it tonight | 08:48 |
| SuperMatt | thanks, that'd be awesome if you could | 08:48 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone. | 08:53 |
| SuperMatt | morning | 08:55 |
| brobostigon | morning SuperMatt | 08:56 |
| Myrtti | I need more tea :-| | 08:59 |
| SuperMatt | well, I've had to edit that UI file by hand | 09:00 |
| SuperMatt | oh, well that doesn't help because the next step is changing the icon, which doesn't work either | 09:02 |
| SuperMatt | maybe I should install a quantal vm | 09:02 |
| SuperMatt | *precise | 09:02 |
| diplo | I found you had to wait ages for any quickly peeps, lunch time was best i think as the US were waking up | 09:04 |
| diplo | I guess I could run up a vm here at work and test | 09:04 |
| SuperMatt | oh that would be kind :) | 09:11 |
| popey | the main quickly person is didrocks, and he's based in .fr | 09:11 |
| === darren is now known as darren-otp | ||
| daubers | SuperMatt: does that video cover Gtk 3 or is it based on Gtk 2? | 09:12 |
| SuperMatt | ooh, I don't know | 09:12 |
| SuperMatt | it *looks* like the tutorial was designed for precise | 09:13 |
| daubers | It is Gtk 3 :) | 09:13 |
| SuperMatt | so that'd be gtk 3, surely? | 09:13 |
| daubers | it's using gi.repository which is normally a good sign it's using Gtk3 | 09:13 |
| daubers | (from my very limited experience anyway) | 09:14 |
| diplo | Quantal vm installing now | 09:20 |
| SuperMatt | thanks diplo | 09:23 |
| diplo | Anyone here use SME Server ? | 09:26 |
| SuperMatt | not I | 09:31 |
| diplo | It sucks soooooooooooooooo badly :) | 09:32 |
| diplo | 3/4 installed now | 09:32 |
| SuperMatt | awesome | 09:33 |
| SuperMatt | by precise is almost ready | 09:33 |
| SuperMatt | I have decided that precise is quantal's ugly sister | 09:35 |
| diplo | I've got to say it is much more finished and faster etc | 09:41 |
| gord | i wish life was a tv show, so we could quick cut to six months later where you guys are saying the same thing about 13.04 and how bad 12.10 is ;) | 09:42 |
| diplo | Well tbh gord 12.04 really was a huge improvement over 11.04, but 12.10 should be what the LTS release was. | 09:45 |
| diplo | It was sooooooooo slow | 09:45 |
| chambs | Anyone have any idea of the location of the script which modifies /etc/motd when you ssh onto ubuntu server? | 09:54 |
| diplo | ali1234: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-change-message-of-the-day-motd-in-ubuntu-server.html | 09:55 |
| AlanBell | !info update-motd | 09:55 |
| lubotu3 | update-motd (source: update-motd): superceded by pam_motd in libpam-modules. In component main, is optional. Version 3.5-0ubuntu1 (precise), package size 5 kB, installed size 56 kB | 09:55 |
| chambs | (Think that was for me not ali but thanks!) | 09:55 |
| diplo | lol it was, sorry chambs / ali1234 :) | 09:57 |
| diplo | And so was AlanBell response chambs ( same thing ) | 09:57 |
| chambs | Yep I'll just tinker with things in /etc/update-motd.d | 09:57 |
| chambs | Thanks all | 09:57 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 10:01 |
| diplo | ello davmor2 | 10:01 |
| chambs | Much better. Now I don't get a link to ubuntu landscape every time I log in ;P | 10:02 |
| davmor2 | morning diplo | 10:03 |
| popey | chambs, i do "touch .hushlogin" | 10:04 |
| popey | then it is nice and peaceful on sshing in | 10:04 |
| chambs | popey, so it is! | 10:05 |
| chambs | Thanks | 10:05 |
| popey | bug 1064285 - AlanBell or davmor2 can you confirm that? | 10:09 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 1064285 in shotwell (Ubuntu) "Triangles shrink when mouse over" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1064285 | 10:09 |
| AlanBell | popey: nope, works for me | 10:10 |
| popey | it works for me too, but i have little triangles | 10:11 |
| AlanBell | I don't | 10:11 |
| popey | only on mouse over | 10:11 |
| AlanBell | nothing remarkable happens on mouseover | 10:11 |
| AlanBell | I am unable to reproduce your screenshot | 10:11 |
| popey | hmm | 10:11 |
| * popey restarts | 10:12 | |
| davmor2 | popey: I don't here either let me try a reboot and see if I get it then | 10:20 |
| popey | bah, reboot and it's gone away | 10:21 |
| * popey marks invalid | 10:21 | |
| diplo | SuperMatt: I can confirm on quantal it's disabled for me as well | 10:31 |
| diplo | SuperMatt: If you click on Action related action and use action appearance it enables it | 10:34 |
| diplo | AlanBell: Expensive PJ's! | 10:36 |
| AlanBell | diplo: yeah, they are | 10:37 |
| SuperMatt | diplo: run me through that? | 10:37 |
| SuperMatt | diplo: go it! Thanks! | 10:38 |
| diplo | So on the action part of the tool bar editor | 10:38 |
| SuperMatt | *got | 10:38 |
| diplo | :) | 10:38 |
| SuperMatt | I HAS A BUTTON | 10:39 |
| diplo | Not played with it much as the vm is quite slow | 10:39 |
| diplo | yay! | 10:39 |
| SuperMatt | thanks muncly dude :) | 10:39 |
| diplo | OK, my ask for help now :) | 10:39 |
| SuperMatt | uh-oh! | 10:39 |
| diplo | I asked this friday but my foo is failing me today | 10:39 |
| diplo | I have 2 dirs with 300+ files int hem | 10:39 |
| diplo | in them* | 10:39 |
| diplo | they all start with sp10.000.randomnumber | 10:40 |
| diplo | I want to compare the files to tell me which are different | 10:40 |
| diplo | Should be the same output but i haver 304 in one dir and 307 in the other | 10:40 |
| diplo | I think gord said use md5, I've tried but it says all files are different | 10:40 |
| bigcalm | You can diff 2 directories | 10:41 |
| diplo | yeah, but because the filenames are different between 2 dirs that's not working | 10:41 |
| bigcalm | Oh | 10:41 |
| diplo | Well I believe that is the issue | 10:41 |
| bigcalm | Might have to script it | 10:41 |
| shauno | what's the content of these files like? any unique string you could pull out of each one? (an accountid, name, etc) | 10:42 |
| diplo | it's statements in plain text | 10:42 |
| diplo | so yeah account numbers / addresses etc | 10:42 |
| diplo | I can grab the files and bring locally if there is a gui app that's good as well | 10:43 |
| SuperMatt | hmmm | 10:43 |
| SuperMatt | do you want to just compare the contents? | 10:43 |
| diplo | I just want to find which 3 files are different without going through 600+ files :) | 10:44 |
| shauno | if they're not similar enough to match md5's, I'd try to awk an account number out of each one, pipe through sort so you have almost-identical lists, and then diff those two lists | 10:44 |
| SuperMatt | cos you could do cat dir1/* > file1; cat dir2/* > file2; vimdiff file1 file2 | 10:44 |
| diplo | I've tried md5suming the files and then diffing that but that's not working | 10:44 |
| davmor2 | diplo: you can try beyond compare on the 2 files | 10:45 |
| SuperMatt | what do the files contain? | 10:45 |
| diplo | basic text displaying statement details, so account/address/and inv numbers etc | 10:46 |
| SuperMatt | then my method should work | 10:46 |
| diplo | davmor2: will look, will try SuperMatt's first | 10:46 |
| diplo | ta | 10:46 |
| SuperMatt | it won't tell you which files are different, but it'll tell you what differences there are between them | 10:46 |
| Laney | ah | 10:47 |
| Laney | fitted a non-shitty 2.5"-3.5" adapter for the SSD | 10:47 |
| Laney | no longer is it hangin' loose inside my case | 10:47 |
| davmor2 | diplo: there is meld diff viewer too iirc | 10:48 |
| * popey hangs loose | 10:48 | |
| shauno | only thing I'd watch for with cat dir1/* is that most shells return the glob as sorted, so the random numbers will jumble the order. you might want to loop through $(ls -U) instead so they're cat'd in the order they were created (which I assume will be closer to natural, assuming they were created with a mostly-similar method) | 10:49 |
| * theopensourcerer loves meld. It is full of awsomeness | 10:50 | |
| diplo | shauno: Sounds like I may have to as it's saying all different | 10:51 |
| diplo | :/ | 10:51 |
| === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away | ||
| Laney | :( | 10:57 |
| Laney | why do lastpass link to some hateful script instead of the chrome web store | 10:57 |
| AlanBell | http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/2006/detail/ quite a few people coming to the release party now | 11:13 |
| gord | .. 2006? | 11:14 |
| shauno | it's just incremental, not a date :p | 11:16 |
| gord | oh okay :P | 11:17 |
| Laney | silly london | 11:22 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: prod hello | 11:26 |
| davmor2 | christel: hello | 11:27 |
| christel | hihi davmor2 | 11:28 |
| czajkowski | ello | 11:29 |
| davmor2 | AlanBell: Hey dude wasn't the city bar used for the release party before? | 11:32 |
| Dave2 | All of the Cs. | 11:37 |
| AlanBell | davmor2 err, maybe, why? | 11:58 |
| davmor2 | I had a memory of it being there before and everyone clearing off else where cause it was cheaper :D but I could be wrong | 11:59 |
| davmor2 | AlanBell: ^ | 11:59 |
| AlanBell | well this isn't there | 12:00 |
| AlanBell | this is at the George | 12:01 |
| davmor2 | AlanBell: ah maybe I got the wrong release party page from a link | 12:02 |
| AlanBell | there was one in a dark and small wine bar in westminster | 12:02 |
| mungojerry | hmm alt-tab in gnome shell seems "broken" in that it doesn't switch back to the previous app | 12:42 |
| czajkowski | aquarius: all recovered :) | 13:17 |
| aquarius | just about. :) | 13:18 |
| livingdaylight | to all pangolin lovers http://tinyurl.com/8fdptwr | 13:20 |
| dwatkins | livingdaylight: that's a lovely pangolin (full URL is https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151058216545658&set=a.10150523921480658.372668.270212045657&type=1&theater ) | 13:27 |
| === darren is now known as darren-otp | ||
| === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk | ||
| === pete is now known as Guest76653 | ||
| === jml_ is now known as jml | ||
| Sintex | hey? | 15:18 |
| dwatkins | hey? | 15:19 |
| mattt | OHAAAAAAI | 15:34 |
| davmor2 | mattt: is obviously by the landing site of a large pod that has come from mars | 15:50 |
| davmor2 | oh no that oooooooooooooooooolllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa | 15:51 |
| DJones | Heh, had to laugh at this http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/308574_324291280918787_1961835811_n.jpg | 15:54 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away | ||
| === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk | ||
| === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away | ||
| Azelphur | anyone know what the deal is with hdmi 1.3 / 1.5 cables? | 18:02 |
| Azelphur | sorry, 1.3 / 1.4 | 18:02 |
| diplo | In what way ? | 18:07 |
| Azelphur | mostly in a "will a 1.4 cable work with my laptop if it's 1.3" | 18:07 |
| diplo | Yep afaik | 18:07 |
| Azelphur | fun | 18:08 |
| Azelphur | found a 1.5m 1.4 cable for £5 with free delivery, sounds like that'll do me nicely | 18:08 |
| diplo | I'll get proof first :) but I'm sure they are | 18:08 |
| diplo | OK, no reputable sources, but everything I've read agrees with me :) | 18:10 |
| Azelphur | same | 18:10 |
| diplo | I'm 90% sure | 18:11 |
| AlanBell | Bug #1061229 is critical \o/ | 18:28 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 1061229 in unity (Ubuntu) "Alt-Tab - alt+grave (key above tab) takes you back to where you started, not to the next window" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1061229 | 18:28 |
| directhex | you cannot call a cable a 1.3 cable or 1.4 cable | 18:33 |
| directhex | it's a requirement of hdmi logo certification | 18:33 |
| directhex | short version: yeah, the cables have never changed, really | 18:34 |
| directhex | you've got four types of cable, you only need to care about one of those | 18:34 |
| diplo | Pretty much how I understood it, just added higher resolution, proper hd 3d support and some other stuff that I can't do off the top of my head | 18:35 |
| directhex | "standard", "standard with ethernet", "high speed", and "high speed with ethernet" | 18:35 |
| directhex | every single feature you need is covered by "high speed" | 18:35 |
| MartijnVdS | directhex: then there's the "mini" connector.. | 18:35 |
| directhex | and i don't think "standard" have been sold for yonks | 18:36 |
| directhex | MartijnVdS: yeah, talking about the cabling itself | 18:36 |
| directhex | if it says it can do 1080p, then it's high speed. if it's high speed, it can do everything else too - 4k, 3d, etc | 18:37 |
| MartijnVdS | I have an "HDMI splitter box" that can only do "low refresh rate" 1080p | 18:38 |
| MartijnVdS | 25-30fps | 18:38 |
| MartijnVdS | Hz | 18:38 |
| MartijnVdS | in short, hdmi is weird :) | 18:39 |
| directhex | yeah, talking about cables here ;) | 18:39 |
| MartijnVdS | We have a "cheap cables" web store in .nl | 18:39 |
| MartijnVdS | €4 HDMI cables \o/ | 18:40 |
| MartijnVdS | instead of the extortionate €50 you pay in stores | 18:40 |
| dwatkins | people actually pay that for HDMI cables? | 18:54 |
| MartijnVdS | dwatkins: if you just bought a shiny new 3D TV and blu-ray player, but don't have cables, AND don't want to wait 3 days for it to arrive in the mail | 18:55 |
| MartijnVdS | dwatkins: yes. | 18:55 |
| Azelphur | MartijnVdS: yea I just paid £4.99 for a 1.5m hdmi 1.4 cable | 18:55 |
| dwatkins | ah ok, I can understand paying over the odds to get it quickly (although the local 24 hour Tesco has them in stock) | 18:56 |
| Azelphur | free next day delivery too, can't complain | 18:56 |
| MartijnVdS | some people even fall for the "audiophile" ones ("copper with argon bubbles and a silver coating and gold contacts") | 18:56 |
| dwatkins | haha | 18:56 |
| MartijnVdS | because it's BETTER | 18:56 |
| Azelphur | I could have got it for like £1 but I don't wanna wait | 18:56 |
| dwatkins | I can understand a slightly better built connector and a thicker cable so it doesn't bend too much with frequent reconnection, but that's about it | 18:57 |
| * MartijnVdS has a Zoom H1 mic | 18:57 | |
| MartijnVdS | dwatkins: how often do you reconnect though | 18:57 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: ^ H1 mic = cool :) | 18:57 |
| popey | me too! | 18:58 |
| popey | picks up hand noise when holding it though | 18:58 |
| MartijnVdS | yeah, I got the "accessory pack" with it | 18:58 |
| MartijnVdS | with a small tripod and an afro^Wwind screen | 18:59 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: I also made my Canon 50D do video (it's not supposed to, yay MagicLantern ;)) | 18:59 |
| dwatkins | MartijnVdS: quite frequently at the moment, as I havn't yet spent 50 GBP on a HDMI switch box. | 19:05 |
| daftykins | my old school TV with its' one HDMI drove me mad | 19:23 |
| daftykins | last Christmas i gave myself a Denon AV receiver and 5.1 speaker set ^_^ | 19:23 |
| brobostigon | this prog on bbc3 makes me laugh, how they came to make it. | 19:24 |
| MartijnVdS | why would you go to the US to _disprove_ creationism? | 19:27 |
| daftykins | for the crack? | 19:28 |
| brobostigon | MartijnVdS: exactly, but just because there is such an extreme public view of it. | 19:28 |
| MartijnVdS | haha.. how to annoy McDonald's employees http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNTSugyS038&feature=youtu.be | 19:52 |
| czajkowski | http://hackntalk.org/hello-world/ say hello to my new pet project | 20:00 |
| kjalil | hey has anyone ever reported audio problems when playing flash that can be fixed by doing 'pulseaudio --kill'? | 20:23 |
| kjalil | I keep having audio issues even on a fresh PC startup and that fixes it | 20:23 |
| MartijnVdS | don't use flash ;) | 20:23 |
| kjalil | awesome :-) next... | 20:24 |
| === ormiret_ is now known as ormiret | ||
| daftykins | MartijnVdS: poor McDonalds ;) | 20:59 |
| daftykins | in the US, just speaking in my Guernsey accent was enough to get orders confused \o/ | 20:59 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: you're missing | 21:16 |
| diplo | evening all | 21:35 |
| diplo | Anyone remind of the package for joining images together to make 1 out of 3 | 21:36 |
| diplo | Got a big school photo of one of my boys but needed to be scanned 3 times to get it copied | 21:36 |
| Darael | Hugin? | 21:38 |
| Darael | That's what comes up if I axi-cache search stitch | 21:38 |
| Darael | diplo: ^ | 21:39 |
| diplo | hugin, that's it | 21:40 |
| diplo | thanks | 21:40 |
| Darael | There's also the pandora package, which is a GIMP plugin, apparently. Both hugin and it are aimed at panoramas, but they should work just as well for stitching scans. | 21:40 |
| diplo | Sorry was looking on other screen | 21:40 |
| Darael | No worries, I just thought I'd make sure of the highlight. | 21:41 |
| diplo | Now to see if I have the images somewhere on this machine :) | 21:41 |
| diplo | Nope, ok.. tomorrows job :) | 21:45 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| gebbione | is there a freenode channel for .net? | 22:28 |
| AlanBell | gebbione: you could ask the alis bot | 22:42 |
| AlanBell | gebbione: /msg alis list *.net | 22:43 |
| AlanBell | seems to be ##asp.net 86 :[##ASP.NET] Read Guidelines @ http://aspdotnet.supertechhelp.com - Entity Framework: #entityframework Winforms: ##vb.net or ##csharp - WPF/Silverlight/Metro: ##xaml - WCF: ##WCF | 22:43 |
| Darael | There'll be mono channels, too, which are /related/. | 22:56 |
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