| soreau | bryceh: cool | 00:47 |
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| mlankhorst | morning | 07:19 |
| mlankhorst | RAOF: re-ping | 07:20 |
| RAOF | mlankhorst: When's your membership-board appointment? | 07:21 |
| mlankhorst | going for uds-r summit | 07:21 |
| RAOF | mlankhorst: I've just been attacking colord with a stick today, so I haven't got around to endorsing you :) | 07:21 |
| mlankhorst | I'm sure you used colorful language to fight it off! | 07:21 |
| tjaalton | mlankhorst: I uploaded an earlier version of xserver, didn't have the latest commit, oops .) | 07:22 |
| tjaalton | :) | 07:22 |
| mlankhorst | mvo: I attached logs to bug 1062503 yesterday | 07:23 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1062503 in apt (Ubuntu) "apt fails to install libglapi-mesa-lts-quantal correctly on switching x stacks" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1062503 | 07:23 |
| tjaalton | mlankhorst: is llvmpipe working for you on the panda? looks like I have just the normal swrast, and thus no compiz on quantal | 08:24 |
| mlankhorst | tjaalton: I use precise still, the ti extras do some patching so quantal won't work out of the box | 08:36 |
| mlankhorst | presumably for the experimental dri2 video extension | 08:37 |
| tjaalton | I dist-upgraded to quantal.. | 08:38 |
| tjaalton | don't have the ppa | 08:39 |
| tjaalton | best to review the build-logs then | 08:40 |
| tjaalton | llvm: no | 08:40 |
| tjaalton | sigh | 08:40 |
| mlankhorst | armel or armhf? | 08:41 |
| tjaalton | armhf | 08:41 |
| tjaalton | same on armel | 08:41 |
| mlankhorst | yeah but on armhf i have the illusion you can still get some speed | 08:42 |
| tjaalton | --with-gallium-drivers=" nouveau r600 r300 svga swrast" | 08:42 |
| mlankhorst | I don't see llvmpipe in debian/rules otherwise | 08:43 |
| mlankhorst | unless it's that other rule, let me test.. | 08:44 |
| tjaalton | it's enabled, ifeq (,$(filter $(DEB_HOST_ARCH_CPU), amd64 i386 arm)) | 08:45 |
| tjaalton | but llvm is turned off somehow | 08:45 |
| tjaalton | oh heh | 08:46 |
| mlankhorst | # LLVM is required for r300g and recommended for swrastg on x86: | 08:46 |
| mlankhorst | that one? :p | 08:46 |
| tjaalton | yeah that :) | 08:46 |
| tjaalton | sheesh | 08:46 |
| mlankhorst | might want to enable it for radeonsi too then | 08:46 |
| tjaalton | it's enabled on x86 already, so it should be good? | 08:48 |
| mlankhorst | on arm? :p | 08:48 |
| tjaalton | radeonsi for arm? | 08:48 |
| mlankhorst | we build the rest, so why not? | 08:49 |
| tjaalton | just makes the build longer :) | 08:49 |
| mlankhorst | throw more pandas at it! | 08:50 |
| mlankhorst | seem to be 11 that are building armhf now | 08:50 |
| tjaalton | I see 8 | 08:51 |
| tjaalton | installed | 08:51 |
| tjaalton | only one of them makes sense for arm :) | 08:52 |
| mlankhorst | don't some arm come with a pci-e port? | 08:52 |
| tjaalton | can you buy it? | 08:52 |
| mlankhorst | https://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/t-openrdudetails.aspx | 08:53 |
| tjaalton | are there any pcie x1 cards available?-) | 08:54 |
| mlankhorst | don't make me look harder, but presumably :P | 08:54 |
| tjaalton | bah | 08:55 |
| tjaalton | but not newer radeon ones anyway :) | 08:55 |
| tjaalton | so I'll just try to make llvmpipe work | 08:55 |
| mlankhorst | booooooooooo | 08:57 |
| mlankhorst | just because there aren't any today, doesn't mean that amd has no secret plans to release them tomorrow | 08:58 |
| tjaalton | when such a miracle happens, I'll gladly flick the switch :) | 09:03 |
| tjaalton | even as an sru | 09:03 |
| tjaalton | but now that we're frozen.. | 09:03 |
| tjaalton | should it be possible to crosscompile for armhf on amd64? | 09:06 |
| tjaalton | with a chroot | 09:06 |
| jcristau | if you have a cross-compiler.. | 09:06 |
| mlankhorst | nah you just add it as foreign arch and use multiarch >:X | 09:06 |
| mlankhorst | should work | 09:07 |
| mlankhorst | still going to need a cross compiler though | 09:07 |
| tjaalton | hum, ok | 09:07 |
| mlankhorst | although I don't think it would be a really supported use of multiarch at this point | 09:09 |
| tjaalton | meh, I'll just build on the damn box | 09:09 |
| mlankhorst | it's what I've been doing so far :) | 09:10 |
| tjaalton | is eth0 gigabit or not? | 09:10 |
| mlankhorst | you wish | 09:10 |
| tjaalton | wonder if it's faster to build on nfs | 09:10 |
| mlankhorst | but it's still faster than a sd card | 09:10 |
| tjaalton | right | 09:10 |
| mlankhorst | I'm using a ssd now on the usb port | 09:10 |
| mlankhorst | 22 megabyte/second | 09:10 |
| tjaalton | blimey | 09:11 |
| mlankhorst | it's great for complete silence though :) | 09:11 |
| tjaalton | that's about it | 09:11 |
| mlankhorst | still a great use! | 09:12 |
| mvo | mlankhorst: thanks for the logs, sorry, the near release is giving me a hard time to find a free time to properly look at it, it looks like a bug in apt, one nice thing would be to know if its also happening with the quantal version of apt | 09:22 |
| mlankhorst | can I just upgrade apt on precise? | 09:23 |
| mvo | mlankhorst: not sure, it will probably bring a bunch of stuff like a new libstdc++ with it, but if you don't mind (or have a VM) then that should be ok | 09:24 |
| mlankhorst | seems to work, lets see.. | 09:27 |
| mlankhorst | mvo: likely failing in the same way | 09:29 |
| mlankhorst | using newer libapt + apt from quantal | 09:30 |
| mvo | mlankhorst: yeah, the ordering code has not much changed iirc, just wanted to double check that I/we are not hunting smething that is already taken care of | 09:31 |
| mlankhorst | I think the ordering is fine, it's just for some reason deciding to configure before it is even extracted | 09:31 |
| mlankhorst | tjaalton: hah, radeonsi builds fine | 09:56 |
| tjaalton | mlankhorst: bah :) | 10:02 |
| tjaalton | what, the panda is single-core? | 10:02 |
| mlankhorst | it's dual core | 10:02 |
| mlankhorst | I disabled one though since the ti ppa had some issue with smp iirc | 10:03 |
| tjaalton | oh right | 10:03 |
| tjaalton | misread /proc/cpuinfo | 10:03 |
| mlankhorst | however mine probably still finished faster because of the faster io | 10:05 |
| tjaalton | how long did it take? | 10:05 |
| mlankhorst | still going at the install phase :P | 10:06 |
| mlankhorst | judging from timestamps, total is approximately 1 hour 20 minutes | 10:07 |
| tjaalton | great | 10:07 |
| tjaalton | and someone wants these in servers.. | 10:08 |
| mlankhorst | there's 2 ways to measure performance per watt, and intel and arm can both claim they're the best at it | 10:08 |
| mlankhorst | one is keeping the total watts fixed, in that case arm wins since intel doesn't come close in total power consumption to things like phones, other is simply measuring flops/watt in which case intel would win :p | 10:10 |
| tjaalton | they're good for something, this box isn't :) | 10:15 |
| mlankhorst | it's good for testing that type of box! | 10:25 |
| tjaalton | yeah, I'm just venting | 10:25 |
| mlankhorst | my n9 might have git on it, but it's not a real buildbox | 10:26 |
| tjaalton | yeah it's io-capped here | 10:27 |
| tjaalton | panda that is | 10:28 |
| mlankhorst | do we have blueprints for R yet? | 10:50 |
| tjaalton | sure | 10:53 |
| tjaalton | ah | 10:53 |
| tjaalton | the team doesn't | 10:53 |
| mlankhorst | yeah looks like I should probably write the one for lts backports | 10:53 |
| tjaalton | meh, still no llvm | 10:57 |
| mlankhorst | how long did your build take? | 10:57 |
| tjaalton | running lintian | 10:58 |
| tjaalton | should finish soon | 10:58 |
| tjaalton | duh | 10:59 |
| tjaalton | DEB_HOST_ARCH != DEB_HOST_ARCH_CPU | 10:59 |
| mlankhorst | haha | 11:00 |
| mlankhorst | mine built :P | 11:00 |
| mlankhorst | # LLVM is required for r300g and recommended for swrastg on x86: | 11:00 |
| mlankhorst | - ifneq (,$(filter $(DEB_HOST_ARCH),amd64 i386 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386)) | 11:00 |
| mlankhorst | + ifneq (,$(filter $(DEB_HOST_ARCH),amd64 i386 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 armel armhf)) | 11:00 |
| tjaalton | yup | 11:00 |
| tjaalton | debuild -b 4189,16s user 543,60s system 139% cpu 56:37,54 total | 11:01 |
| mlankhorst | aw you won because of multithreading | 11:02 |
| * mlankhorst shakes fist | 11:02 | |
| tjaalton | bwahaha.. | 11:02 |
| tjaalton | if only it could fit in the ramdisk.. | 11:02 |
| tjaalton | need to fix the build-deps too | 11:09 |
| mlankhorst | oh right | 11:15 |
| tjaalton | cheated, and dropped all the other dri drivers for this build.. | 11:15 |
| mlankhorst | OMG :o | 11:15 |
| tjaalton | should be a bit faster to build :) | 11:15 |
| mlankhorst | can I cheat and update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Blueprints/LtsPointUpdatesForXorg for R? | 11:17 |
| tjaalton | go ahead :) | 11:17 |
| * mlankhorst didn't just add a question mark to the end of the url just to get it in launchpad as specification a second time *whistles innocently* | 11:24 | |
| tjaalton | doesn't work | 12:05 |
| mlankhorst | :/ | 12:45 |
| mlankhorst | it builds llvmpipe though | 12:46 |
| tjaalton | uploaded 9.0 anyway | 13:05 |
| tjaalton | without the change | 13:06 |
| mvo | mlankhorst: just to confirm , that quantal version of apt-get had the same error #1062503 ? | 13:53 |
| mlankhorst | yeah | 13:54 |
| mlankhorst | which reminds me have to downgrade it | 13:54 |
| mlankhorst | oh 3.6.1-rt1 is a fun read :-) | 14:21 |
| bryceh | lots of xorg-server crash bugs this week | 20:30 |
| mlankhorst | yeah not happy | 20:36 |
| mlankhorst | especially since the backtraces are useless | 20:37 |
| RAOF | That's annoying. | 22:02 |
| RAOF | What's generating rubbish backtraces? | 22:02 |
| mlankhorst | my guess is xorg-server trying to do a clean shutdown after something already went wrong | 22:03 |
| RAOF | This is quantal, right? | 22:04 |
| mlankhorst | yeah | 22:04 |
| Prf_Jakob | mlankhorst: have you asked Thomas btw? | 23:13 |
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