[00:00] <bennypr0fane> jrib before I go and reset, I just want to mention I just logged off and back on: I wasn't asked for a pwd to log on, but to unlock the keyring, and the old pwd still worked there
[00:00] <mr_t3> its not really what rsync is intended to do, i know ;)
[00:00] <overclucker> Respite212: do you have somewhere to store a home backup wile the partitions are being modified?
[00:00] <jrib> bennypr0fane: yes, keyring is a separate password; you'd have to change it separately
[00:01] <bennypr0fane> jrib but the pwd for logging into the desktop session is also my root pwd?
[00:01] <Respite212> overclucker: Hmmm I don't think so, my /home is rather large.
[00:01] <actionParsnip> mr_t3: is there an option listed in the man page?
[00:01] <jrib> bennypr0fane: you don't have a root password.  Sudo asks for your user's password
[00:01] <klaxtr> i have a question, is terminal based on python??
[00:02] <bennypr0fane> ok, then sudo pwd
[00:02] <mr_t3> actionParsnip, i have not found one, but that does not implies that there is a possibility (dark evil hack) ;)
[00:02] <bennypr0fane> jrib is it the same as for session logon?
[00:02] <jrib> bennypr0fane: yes, that also asks for your user's password
[00:03] <bennypr0fane> jrib How can I get rid of the keyring/need to unlock it (is what I wanted to accomplish in the first place)
[00:03] <jrib> bennypr0fane: if it's the same as your user password and you don't use auto-login then it should unlock automatically. If you want to use auto-login then you need to use a blank keyring password
[00:04] <blackshirt> klaxtr, what you mean ?
[00:04] <bennypr0fane> jrib where do I specify whether or not to use auto-login?
[00:04] <ms_daisy> Hi. I need to triple boot my computer. I've got Windows 7 and Ubuntu dual-booting right now. Can anyone point me to a guide telling me how to add a third OS?
[00:04] <jrib> bennypr0fane: the dialog you mentioned before
[00:05] <jrib> ms_daisy: what OS?
[00:05] <klaxtr> seems that terminal is based on python
[00:05] <jrib> klaxtr: what terminal?
[00:05] <klaxtr> i mean the way python works is very similar than python
[00:05] <ms_daisy> backtrack jrib .
[00:05] <klaxtr> ubuntu terminal
[00:06] <jrib> ms_daisy: just install backtrack to its own partition and ubuntu's grub will find it when you run update-grub
[00:06] <blackshirt> klaxtr, you mean gnome-terminal
[00:06] <blackshirt> klaxtr, why you could say it?
[00:06] <jamme> klaxtr: the concept of terminals is a few decades older than the concept of python
[00:06] <ms_daisy> That's the part I need guidance on jrib . How do I get it to install in its own partition?
[00:06] <bnwkeys> Question: After merging two partitions with GParted Live, Ubuntu now thinks that I have a missing partition and it adds an extra dialog every startup "Unable to mount /blahblah ....".  I have to press "S" to skip ahead when it does its endless search for the partition that isn't there.  Anyone know how to tell Ubuntu to forget that partition?  Or where in the filesystem the config is for mount on startup?
[00:07] <jrib> ms_daisy: do you have a free partition?
[00:07] <zykotick9> bnwkeys: check your /etc/fstab file
[00:07] <bnwkeys> thanks
[00:07] <actionParsnip> ms_daisy: you can resize ext4 in livecd, be sure to run a full backup before starting
[00:07] <blackshirt> klaxtr, i think gnome-terminal was written with gtk library
[00:07] <paoloktm> ciao
[00:07] <bennypr0fane> jrib: I actually don't remember ever being asked to specify a separate pwd for the keyring. The prompt *to unlock* the keyring just popped up and I entered my user pwd
[00:07] <overclucker> Respite212: it's more complicated, but you could setup lvm for your sda4, move the data back, setup lvm for sdb1, extend the volume, and then resize the filesystem, and set the volume as home in fstab. there are a lot of complicated steps though so it's up to you if you want to do it or not.
[00:08] <bennypr0fane> ubottu | fstab
[00:08] <jrib> bennypr0fane: I think initially it's just setup the same as your login, but if you change your login, it won't change automatically
[00:08] <paoloktm> list
[00:08] <jean> Hi for all
[00:08] <TreadStone__71> Hello jean.
[00:08] <blackshirt> hi jean
[00:08] <bennypr0fane> bnwkeys check that link from ubottu, It should be helpful to you
[00:09] <Respite212> overclucker: what is lvm?
[00:09] <overclucker> !lvm | Respite212
[00:10] <bennypr0fane> !fstab | bnwkeys
[00:10] <overclucker> Respite212: it will basicall allow you to join the two partitions as one or a set of logical volumes
[00:10] <bennypr0fane> ha! I learned how to use ubottu
[00:10] <bennypr0fane> awesome
[00:10] <bennypr0fane> gonna go reset the damn pwd now
[00:11] <ms_daisy> actionParsnip, jrib I currently have one windows boot partition, one windows partition, one windows recovery partition, and one extended partition with ubuntu & swap in it. So currently I do not have a free partition, I need to create one.
[00:11] <jrib> ms_daisy: have backups and use gparted to resize as actionParsnip suggested
[00:11] <Respite212> overclucker: Oh.. logical volume management.
[00:11] <actionParsnip> ms_daisy: you can resize your logical partitions
[00:11] <bnwkeys> I am, it is very helpful, thank you benny
[00:12] <Respite212> overclucker: Is it stable?
[00:12] <paoloktm> ciao
[00:12] <overclucker> Respite212: yup
[00:12] <ms_daisy> I have to do it from a live cd, right? I can't use gparted from the ubuntu installation?
[00:12] <paoloktm> list
[00:12] <actionParsnip> ms_daisy: you may be able to extend your extended partition to  enable you to make free space to install to
[00:13] <Respite212> overclucker: If you got time to assist me with it, I'll give it a shot, never done something like this b4.
[00:13] <klaxtr> im learning python and seems that gnome terminal works as python, so i was wondering if gnome terminal had something of python code on it
[00:13] <overclucker> Respite212: sure
[00:13] <paoloktm> ?
[00:13] <Respite212> overclucker: Thanks much.
[00:14] <paoloktm> griffin?
[00:14] <ms_daisy> klaxtr, you can drop to a python shell. Is that what you did? Bash !=python.
[00:14] <actionParsnip> klaxtr: the shell can interpret scripts and so forth, you can run python code as you need
[00:14] <actionParsnip> klaxtr: thats why bash scripts have #!/bin/bash  at the top, python will have a python based line.
[00:15] <paoloktm> ciao ragazzi ma come funziona mIRC?
[00:15] <overclucker> Respite212: first thing is to: sudo apt-get install lvm2
[00:15] <paoloktm> list?
[00:15] <Respite212> overclucker: Done
[00:15] <blackshirt> overclucker, thats way to install lvm2 tools to manipulate lvm
[00:15] <ms_daisy> !italian | paoloktm
[00:16] <actionParsnip> paoloktm: youcould use wine, why not use one of the many native clients
[00:16] <klaxtr> what i mean is that has similar logic on the way both work
[00:16] <klaxtr> python shell and gnome terminal
[00:16] <actionParsnip> paoloktm: è possibile utilizzare wine, perché non utilizzare uno dei molti clienti nativi
[00:16] <zykotick9> klaxtr: gnome-terminal is just a way to access your shell, called bash.  terminals don't do much, bash does.
[00:17] <actionParsnip> klaxtr: you can use python in gnome-terminal
[00:17] <blackshirt> klaxtr, tehnically they were different thing
[00:20] <actionParsnip> klaxtr: the interpretter is flexible
[00:20] <klaxtr> how can i used python in gnome-terminal?
[00:21] <actionParsnip> klaxtr: the same way you use bash scripts
[00:21] <a111> where is a umask set, is it per user, per folder, per group
[00:21] <a111> or what?
[00:21] <klaxtr> as there re no stupid questions how you can use bash scripts
[00:21] <actionParsnip> klaxtr: just start a text file with:  #!/usr/bin/python       and use python commands, it will run. You will need to make the text file executable
[00:22] <ms_daisy> you can drop to a python shell inside of bash.  I forget the command.  Someone help me out.
[00:22] <overclucker> Respite212: we need to set the partition type for /dev/sda4 to 8e; sudo cfdisk /dev/sda
[00:22] <actionParsnip> klaxtr: when you run it, the interpretter will see you telling it to use python, and itwill be used
[00:23] <jrib> ms_daisy: "python" -_-
[00:23] <overclucker> Respite212: navigate menu to sda4 and press t
[00:23] <ms_daisy> derp
[00:23] <klaxtr> when you say #! this is literal
[00:24] <klaxtr> i mean after my user name
[00:24] <Respite212> overclucker: It doesn't read sda4 for some reason
[00:25] <ms_daisy> klaxtr, no. start the text file with the following line:
[00:25] <ms_daisy> #!/usr/bin/python
[00:25] <actionParsnip> klaxtr: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268495/   for example
[00:25] <ms_daisy> usr is not user.
[00:25] <overclucker> Respite212: oh, that's right you deleted it. press n and add as a primary partition. then select it in menu and press t
[00:26] <Respite212> overclucker: No, I didn't delete the partition it's still there
[00:26] <actionParsnip> klaxtr: whack it in a text file, mark it as executable and you have a python script
[00:26] <overclucker> Respite212: so sda4 is there?
[00:26] <klaxtr> i see
[00:27] <klaxtr> what applications are based on python in ubuntu does anyone knows?
[00:27] <Respite212> overclucker: I see it in Gparted, but all I see in cfdisk is sda1
[00:27] <overclucker> Respite212: then close cfdisk with Q and use gparted.
[00:28] <Respite212> overclucker: when I type in sudo cfdisk /dev/sda, it says unsupported GPT detected, using GNU parted.
[00:29] <imconfused> hello e
[00:29] <imconfused> veryone!
[00:30] <actionParsnip> klaxtr: many
[00:30] <blackshirt> klaxtr, a lot of packages available, most of apt front end like usc i think use python
[00:30] <klaxtr> ok, maybe a browser??
[00:31] <blackshirt> Klaxtr, guake, was drop down terminal written in python
[00:31] <actionParsnip> klaxtr: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268497/
[00:31]  * actionParsnip loves guake
[00:31] <blackshirt> me too :d
[00:32] <klaxtr> wow, is safe to say that python it's pretty active
[00:32] <imconfused> How would I most efficiently automate transfer of files from a local drive to a NAS (via smb or whatever)?  essentially, I want to automatically copy all files uploaded to one directry to a directory on my NAS named whatever the CURRENT_DATE is
[00:32] <klaxtr> as a language
[00:32] <actionParsnip> klaxtr: very
[00:32] <klaxtr> in which other applications is used now a days??
[00:33] <klaxtr> i mean out of desktop enviroment
[00:33] <actionParsnip> klaxtr: frets on fire is python based
[00:34] <blackshirt> klaxtr, i think python was integral part of open source
[00:35] <actionParsnip> klaxtr: dropbox is python based too
[00:35] <actionParsnip> gwibber
[00:35] <klaxtr> wow
[00:35] <klaxtr> ubuntu will stop developing in 2012, right? what will happen next?
[00:35] <actionParsnip> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Python_software
[00:35] <actionParsnip> klaxtr: it's not going to stop in 2012
[00:35] <trent286> hi guys could anyone please advise me how I could do a disk image of a raid 1 setup (i have two drives hda and hdb in software raid 1)
[00:36] <klaxtr> actionParsnip thanx for the wiki link
[00:36] <Sokel> echo -e "I\v\t\ts\v\tu\v\tc\v\tk\v\t\tc\v\to\v\tc\v\tk\v\t"'!'
[00:36] <klaxtr> isnt?, i thougth so... so is ubuntu on an on an on
[00:36] <overclucker> Respite212: restart gparted and see if sda4 is stil lthere
[00:37] <klaxtr> i mean is ubuntu going to keep developing way more years?
[00:37] <Respite212> overclucker: It's there, all I did was reformatted the partition to get rid of the copied files.
[00:37] <actionParsnip> klaxtr: should do, yes
[00:37] <overclucker> Respite212: ok, right click sda4 and select manage flags
[00:38] <booh-> Each time I boot, I have the recovery menu.  How to get rid of it?
[00:38] <Respite212> overclucker: Select lvm I assume?
[00:38] <overclucker> Respite212: yup
[00:39] <Respite212> overclucker: done
[00:39] <actionParsnip> booh-: so you just want it to boot without showing options?
[00:39] <overclucker> Respite212: now close gparted and open a terminal
[00:39] <booh-> I don't know, since I upgrade some month ago, each time I boot, I have the recovery menu.  I choose "resume" and all is booting normaly.
[00:39] <psusi> trent286, why do you want to do a disk image instead of a regular backup?
[00:39] <klaxtr> i thougth i read somewhere on ubuntu page that they  will stop on 2012?
[00:40] <cornell> Good evening all... Is there a file that has the programs/packages that are installed on a system?  I'm upgrading an old laptop to a new one, I want to get a list from the old one, to see what needs to be done to the new one.
[00:40] <actionParsnip> klaxtr: no, Quantal is supported for 18 months after release, it will continue for a long long time to come
[00:40] <zykotick9> klaxtr: ya, companies say they're gonna fail in advance of actually failing... you didn't read that.
[00:41] <Dr_willis> cornell,  yoyu can make aptitude generate a list.. but dont use aptitude for much more.
[00:41] <Dr_willis> !clone
[00:41] <ejv> cornell: sudo dpkg --get-selections ; will list all currently installed packages.
[00:41] <Dr_willis> You could tweak the command in that factoid to make a simple list.  but DONT use aptitude to install stuff like the 2nd half says.
[00:41] <actionParsnip> booh-: what is on the screen when you have to select 'resume'?
[00:41] <Dr_willis> we need a better clone factoid someday. ;)
[00:41] <overclucker> Respite212: I forgot to tell you to apply the changes, I hope you're doing that.
[00:42] <actionParsnip> Dr_willis: you can revise the factoid yourself ;)
[00:42] <booh-> I don't remember... I'm in gnome now..
[00:42] <cornell> Thanks Dr_willis and ejv
[00:42] <ejv> cornell: therefore you could do: sudo dpkg --get-selections > installed.txt
[00:42] <Dr_willis> actionParsnip,  i  just reinstall stuff as i need  :) that way i end up not reinstlling cruft
[00:42] <zykotick9> actionParsnip: Dr_willis there is currently no "good" method to clone packages... :(
[00:42] <Respite212> overclucker: All I did was flag lvm to my sda4
[00:43] <actionParsnip> booh-: is it this: http://www.dedoimedo.com/images/computers_new_2/grub2-dual-boot-in-grub2.png    or similar?
[00:43] <darkwizard> hey guies
[00:43] <Dr_willis> If im doing a dozen machines (or a few) i make a script with all the 'apt-get install whatever'  :) packages i normally want
[00:43] <darkwizard> hows everyone doing?
[00:43] <overclucker> Respite212: If you didn't apply the changes, you'll have to go back and do it again
[00:43] <cornell> Is there a different way to do the install on the second machine?.  I could manually go through the list, but a single command is better...
[00:43] <actionParsnip> Dr_willis: could use puppet :)
[00:43] <booh-> actionParsnip, no
[00:43] <cornell> mmm good idea dr_w
[00:43] <darkwizard> sudo apt-get install a penis
[00:43] <darkwizard> :D
[00:43] <cornell> Good idea Dr_willis
[00:44] <darkwizard> Why do you guys use Ubuntu when you can use gentoo?
[00:44] <Respite212> overclucker: What changes did you mean?
[00:44] <actionParsnip> booh-: can you take a shot with a camera of some kind so we can see the screen
[00:44] <booh-> actionParsnip, http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/_media/recoverymode-menu.png
[00:44] <actionParsnip> booh-: ahhhhh
[00:44] <overclucker> Respite212: marking lvm in manage flags menu of gparted
[00:44] <booh-> each time I boot..
[00:44] <actionParsnip> booh-: if you boot to liveCD, I suggest you fsck your partition
[00:45] <Respite212> overclucker: Do I still need to do this? /dev/sda4 to 8e; sudo cfdisk /dev/sda?
[00:45] <darkwizard> Gues
[00:45] <darkwizard> guies
[00:45] <darkwizard> talk to me or ill cry
[00:45] <darkwizard> exit
[00:45] <FloodBot1> darkwizard: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:45] <overclucker> Respite212: nope we are doing taht with gparted instead
[00:45] <booh-> ok I try
[00:45] <Respite212> overclucker: Yeah, I did the lvm management flag with gparted for sda4 already, just waiting at the terminal.
[00:47] <booh-> In additional drivers, for video, I have a lot of choices... version 173, version 173-updates, version current, version current-updates, version experimental-304.  Which one to choose?
[00:47] <grumbly> I need some linux help, but ##linux is not being supportive...I need to move files from a local directory to a NAS.  these files need to be uploaded to a directory on the NAS with the current date.  files are uploaded via FTP to an upload directory throughout the day and are generally between 500 and 4000mb,
[00:47] <k1gwb> Is there a channel specifically for 12.10 beta?
[00:47] <overclucker> Respite212: ok do: sudo pvcreate /dev/sda1
[00:47] <zykotick9> k1gwb: #ubuntu+1
[00:47] <cornell> Two questions...  the sudo dpkg --get-selections lists package names and "install", except one says "deinstall".  What does the install/deinstall mean?
[00:47] <k1gwb> zykotick9: thanks
[00:48] <Respite212> overclucker: /dev/sda1 is my boot partition.
[00:48] <overclucker> Respite212: right, i meant 4
[00:48] <cornell> What happens if I use that list to install stuff, and some are already installed?
[00:48] <psusi> Respite212, FYI, you don't have to have a separate boot partition
[00:48] <actionParsnip> cornell: it will be updates
[00:48] <actionParsnip> updated
[00:48] <grumbly> cornell: why dont you try using aptitude or some other apt frontend?
[00:48] <zykotick9> !aptitude | grumbly
[00:49] <grumbly> oh... nevermind
[00:49] <Respite212> overclucker: Done.
[00:49] <Respite212> psusi: Doesn't hurt.
[00:49] <grumbly> zykotick9: I realized what I suggested after i noticed dpkg... I am a preoccupied right now
[00:50] <cornell> grumbly: Because two folks have already recommended against using aptitude
[00:50] <overclucker> Respite212: then sudo vgcreate vol /dev/sda4
[00:50] <skulltip> hi, is there a way to make ubuntu behave less like a tablet, eg. moving the file menu back to the top of each opened window..
[00:50] <cornell> Yeah, what ubottu said ;-)
[00:50] <grumbly> cornell: see my above statement
[00:50] <zykotick9> skulltip: install a different DE
[00:50] <Respite212> overclucker: done.
[00:51] <skulltip> what is a de?
[00:51] <grumbly> cornell: in any case, I am in need of other help...  sorry to butt in pointlessly
[00:51] <zykotick9> skulltip: sorry "desktop enviornment" like gnome/kde/xfce/lxde type thing
[00:51] <cornell> And... What does the install/deinstall mean?
[00:51] <grumbly> cornell: I will look to see! brb
[00:52] <grumbly> cornell: taken straight from the man pages, gimme a sec to paste
[00:53] <grumbly> cornell: Deinstall I am in need of some help...  I need to move files from a local directory to a NAS.  these files need to be uploaded to a directory on the NAS with the current date.  files are uploaded via FTP to an upload directory throughout the day and are generally between 500 and 4000mb,
[00:53] <grumbly> oops
[00:53] <grumbly> lol
[00:53] <grumbly> cornell: deinstall The package is selected for  deinstallation  (i.e.  we  want  to remove all files, except configuration files)
[00:53] <cornell> And... Update Manager keeps saying that release 12.04.1 LTS is available... My new laptop has it already, I don't like it.  But I guess I'm going to have to bite the bullet eventually.  Any comments from folks who thought they wouldn't like 12.04?
[00:54] <grumbly> cornell: I dont like gnome, so I can't say for the standard installation, but I find Kubuntu to be quite nice
[00:54] <cornell> Ah, thanks grumbly... man page for dpkg?
[00:54] <psusi> cornell, "like"?
[00:55] <grumbly> cornell: yes, the man page for dpkg.  it's about a page in.
[00:55] <DeucesWildCatch2> Is this "tech support"
[00:55] <Smackbook> i'm trying to get my hdmi audio out working, when I go into system settings > sound settings and choose the right settings for my hdmi chip on the hardware tab, I can test the left and right and hear the test voice, but none of the system sounds are being routed through there.  when I go into alsamixer and select the hdmi sound chip it shows spdif [,1,2] they all have 00 (not MM) but no volume bars (nothing happens when i press up and do
[00:55] <zykotick9> DeucesWildCatch2: "ubuntu support" only actually
[00:55] <overclucker> Respite212: now: sudo lvcreate -n home -l 100%FREE vol
[00:55] <actionParsnip> DeucesWildCatch2: for ubuntu, yes
[00:55] <farrioth> cornell: I don't like 12.04 yet, but that's because a do-release-upgrade breaks stuff.
[00:55] <zacarias> when will 12.10 be released?
[00:55] <bobo37773> DeucesWildCatch2: It's a volunteer community driver irc channel
[00:56] <actionParsnip> zacarias: ask in #ubuntu+1
[00:56] <rushiop> hello, i have a big problem here, i cant get vaio motion eye fz250fe, can someone help me please?
[00:56] <DeucesWildCatch2> I am just THAT NEW.. I had to ask. So Ubunto tech support.. Well, I am as rookie as they come I suppose. I dont even have an ubunto for dummies book yet
[00:56] <actionParsnip> rushiop: does it work in cheese?
[00:56] <zykotick9> !schedule | zacarias
[00:56] <cornell> Well, psusi, I prefer the "desktop" nature of 11, not the .... "tablet" nature of 12.  I like menus, am familier with them.  12 seems so ... foreign.  Not that I'm against change, but sometimes change isn't for the best.
[00:56] <rushiop> no
[00:56] <farrioth> Can anyone tell me whether it will cause problems adding repos for an older version of Ubuntu to my sources.list?
[00:56] <actionParsnip> DeucesWildCatch2: ubuntu, not ubunto
[00:56] <Respite212> overclucker: Done.
[00:56] <DeucesWildCatch2> OH SNAP. thank you
[00:56] <zykotick9> farrioth: YES.  don't try to mix releases!
[00:56] <psusi> overbythere, Respite212, why setup LVM if you are just going to make a single volume with all of the space?
[00:57] <actionParsnip> rushiop: run:  lsusb   one line will identify the device, use the 8 character ID to find guides
[00:57] <grumbly> I am in need of some help...  I need to move files from a local directory to a NAS.  these files need to be uploaded to a directory on the NAS with the current date.  files are uploaded via FTP to an upload directory throughout the day and are generally between 500 and 4000mb,
[00:57] <Respite212> psusi: Hmm? because the empty spaces are on seperate hard drives.
[00:57] <grumbly> basically, I am not sure where to start
[00:57] <psusi> cornell, you can choose to use the old style shell, or gnome-shell instead of unity... I rather like gnome-shell
[00:57] <cornell> That's ok, DeucesWildCatch2, everyone was a newbie once.  Some of even remember when, and try to help newbies... like the folks here :-)
[00:57] <farrioth> zykotick9: If I need an older version of a package, is there a better way than than using dpkg -i and sorting out the deps myself?
[00:58] <shwaiil> Q: Installed Gparted but its not shown on Applications. Where can I find it ? Tks
[00:58] <psusi> Respite212, ahh, so you're using it to concatenate two drives of different size/speed?
[00:58] <DeucesWildCatch2> So, i was just given a laptop with ubuntu on it, I am trying to dd however i have one hard drive with triboot capabilities... multiple partitions..  I promised i would clean it before i used it..
[00:58] <Respite212> shawiil: terminal sudo gparted
[00:58] <cornell> psusi: Choosing the old shell... when, how?  On installation, or switch it after installation?
[00:58] <zykotick9> farrioth: compile from source would be another option.  trying to use old packages, silly imo.  best of luck.
[00:58] <ann-sophie> hello all...Id like to have your opinion....I'm trying to install ubuntu and it never succed to install the application part...i was able to install the first part, the gnome.... have any idea??
[00:58] <overclucker> Respite212: sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/vol/home
[00:58] <psusi> cornell, log out, choose the other shell, log in
[00:58] <Respite212> psusi: using the exact same hard drives, same speed. same everything
[00:59] <psusi> Respite212, then you should raid them... get faster performance then
[00:59] <farrioth> zykotick9: I need old packages because new packages are buggy/missing...
[00:59] <cornell> psusi: after I first installed, there wasn't an option...  I'd installed another...kubuntu or something, and then I got two choices.
[00:59] <DeucesWildCatch2> thanks cornell.
[00:59] <zykotick9> farrioth: i'd suggest you are using the wrong distro then...
[00:59] <shwaiil> Respite212: thanks a lot
[01:00] <grumbly> Is it possible to mount a directory on a NAS and make it persistent?
[01:00] <Respite212> shwaiil: np, gparted need root access so you need to sudo it.
[01:00] <farrioth> zykotick9: I am, but I can't be bothered setting up everything from scratch once again.  All my hardware is working now...
[01:00] <grumbly> persistent being It comes back on its own after rebooting
[01:01] <Respite212> psusi: Ummm I never did raid.
[01:01] <cornell> DeucesWildCatch2: Now, myself... I've been using linux for... ugh 20 years?  15 at least.  But I don't get into the gory bits often enough... so I'm kind of an old-newbie.
[01:01] <Respite212> overclucker: Done
[01:01] <farrioth> grumbly: After rebooting the NAS or the system it's mounted on?
[01:01] <bobo37773> grumbly: Can't you just add it to your fstab?
[01:01] <grumbly> either
[01:01] <Respite212> psusi: And I have so much stuff on my hard drives I don't want to reinstall/update/reconfigure everything.
[01:01] <DeucesWildCatch2> an old newbie, interesting way to put it.
[01:01] <grumbly> farrioth: both... either...
[01:01] <overclucker> Respite212, shwaiil: gksudo gparted
[01:02] <grumbly> bobo37773: I am not sure.  if I can, I don't know how
[01:02] <DeucesWildCatch2> perhaps you are ready to get gory??
[01:02] <ann-sophie> Id like to have your opinion....I'm trying to install ubuntu and it never succed to install the application part...i was able to install the first part, the gnome.... have any idea??
[01:02] <grumbly> I've never done a remote mount point in fstab before
[01:02] <shwaiil> overclucker: what is gksudo ?
[01:02] <psusi> Respite212, you don't have to reinstall... just use mdadm instead of lvm to set up the two drives
[01:02] <cornell> psusi: Is there a DM that I can install that is gnome?  I don't suppose it's called gnome.
[01:02] <zykotick9> shwaiil: see "/msg ubottu gksudo"
[01:02] <overclucker> Respite212: sudo mount /dev/vol/home /mnt; sudo cp -aR /home/* /mnt
[01:03] <bobo37773> grumbly: Yeah that may be strange since network needs to be up. Pretty good point. There must be some kind of new equilent in upstart for rc.local
[01:03] <cornell> shwaiil: kind of like a windowed sudo, instead of a normal terminal sudo.
[01:03] <overclucker> gksudo | shwaiil
[01:03] <shwaiil> oh ok
[01:03] <farrioth> grumbly: fstab if the system it's mounted on is rebooted.  For the other way round... you could run an ssh server on the system where the directory is mounted and get the NAS to ssh in and mount itself on boot.
[01:03] <shwaiil> thanks
[01:03] <overclucker> !gksudo | shwaiil
[01:03] <psusi> cornell, gnome-shell is the new gnome 3d shell
[01:03] <DeucesWildCatch2> when i type "sudo fdisk -1" i get the reply " fdisk: invalid option - -1
[01:03] <bobo37773> grumbly: How are you mounting it now? Maybe you can create either a cronjob or a rule or something to load it after boot
[01:03] <cornell> Yeah, what ubottu said.
[01:03] <psusi> cornell, iirc, the old 2d style fallback is installed by default
[01:03] <zykotick9> DeucesWildCatch2: L not 1
[01:03] <cornell> Boy that ubottu is a clever guy ;-)
[01:04] <grumbly> farrioth: I don't need to move files from the nas back... why would I have the NAS ssh in?
[01:04] <grumbly> bobo37773: I;m not... i'm over SMB
[01:04] <DeucesWildCatch2> L? for listing?
[01:04] <zykotick9> DeucesWildCatch2: -l for list
[01:04]  * grumbly is a bad sysadmin
[01:04] <DeucesWildCatch2> hmm
[01:04] <zykotick9> DeucesWildCatch2: lowcase L, not 1 (sorry wasn't clear 1st time)
[01:05] <Respite212> overclucker: Thanks for the gksudo command. I didn't know.
[01:05] <rushiop> i try this guide http://secondpulse.blogspot.com/2012/06/how-to-install-motioneye-driver-in.html but didnt work
[01:05] <farrioth> grumbly: So it can mount itself once it comes back online.  The other option to to poll (on the client) to see when it goes down and then to see when it comes back up and then mount it.
[01:05] <bobo37773> grumbly: :P Not sure exactly how it works but I am assuming it still uses mount (not alot experience with SMB). Learn how to mount it in the shell and then write a rule to do it at startup. That's it really. Should be
[01:06] <Respite212> overcluckers: Done, but got error cp: cannot stat `/home/username/.gvfs': Permission denied
[01:06] <DeucesWildCatch2> ok. now i did do that afterwards.  response is quite intense. since i am trying to wipe the whole lappy which would i choose if partition table entries are not in disc order?
[01:07] <bobo37773> Respite212: What are you trying to do with gvfs?
[01:07] <cornell> If I upgrade this machine to 12, I assume that gnome-shell will remain.
[01:07] <DeucesWildCatch2> I am using my asus as I am trying to do this on the HP i was given
[01:07] <grumbly> farrioth: OH YOU GENIUS!!! the NAS is a storebought one, so I don't know if I can do the SSH login... which would be pretty cool...  could you explain the other idea more and how I would go about ths?
[01:07] <rushiop> enyone have a vaio vgn fz250fe?
[01:08] <bobo37773> Respite212: Are you trying to backup information to restore it somewhere else using cp? Use rsync
[01:08] <ann-sophie> anyone had time to read my problem?
[01:08] <DeucesWildCatch2> Just call me Deuce.
[01:09] <bobo37773> ann-sophie: Can you elaborate a little bit more?
[01:09] <grumbly> ann-sophie: what is the problem you're having?
[01:09] <ann-sophie> Id like to have your opinion....I'm trying to install ubuntu and it never succed to install the application part...i was able to install the first part, the gnome.... have any idea??
[01:09] <farrioth> grumbly: Can you log in to the NAS over ssh at the moment?
[01:09] <DeucesWildCatch2> my lappy shows /dev/sda1-6 and states partition table entries are not in disc order.. All i want to do is wipe this laptop.
[01:10] <grumbly> farrioth: no... i'm not at that network at the moment
[01:10] <ann-sophie> and if i book unto ubuntu...I get a prompt..similar to a msdos windows
[01:10] <grumbly> ann-sophie: what do you mean it never installs the applications?
[01:10] <rushiop> someone can help me with my motion eye cam vaio vgn fz250fe?
[01:10] <ann-sophie> i get a error message telling it failed the install
[01:11] <bobo37773> ann-sophie: By elaborate I meant explain a little better not copy and paste the same thing you typed already :| Like what do you mean by the application part?
[01:11] <grumbly> ann-sophie: what is the name of the disk image are you trying to install from?
[01:11] <ann-sophie> i have a acer notebook
[01:11] <ann-sophie> ubuntu-12.04.1-alternate-amd64
[01:11] <farrioth> grumbly: Can you usually, though?  If you can then we'll go with having the NAS mount itself; if not, I'll explain the polling option.
[01:11] <ann-sophie> is the iso i have
[01:11] <grumbly> ann-sophie: try using a different iso file.
[01:12] <actionParsnip> ann-sophie: did you MD5 test the ISO?
[01:12] <cornell> ann-sophie: I assume that your Acer is 64 bit
[01:12] <actionParsnip> rushiop: did the device show in the output of lsusb?
[01:12] <DeucesWildCatch2> Never mind the light just turned on.. i get it now..
[01:12] <ann-sophie> actionParsnip i dont recall
[01:12] <grumbly> farrioth: I have honestly never tried.  It hasn't really been used for anything, then today, boss said "hey, why don't you automate this file stuff"  and I said "uhhh... OK"
[01:12] <ann-sophie> yes Corey
[01:12] <ann-sophie> oups cornell
[01:13] <actionParsnip> ann-sophie: then I suggest you recheck it to be sure
[01:13] <cornell> ;-)
[01:13] <ann-sophie> oki,
[01:13] <jagginess> ann-sophie, that "alternate" iso is not the standard download for desktop users. (unless you want to setup raid with it)
[01:13] <farrioth> grumbly: Okay, let's go with the polling.  I'll write a script and get back to you in a few mins.
[01:13] <jagginess> ann-sophie, (but it uses the same online repositories for the packages-- but the "installer" may appear a bit different)
[01:13] <ann-sophie> no..i want to try ubuntu...
[01:13] <DeucesWildCatch2> what is the device name of te hard drive in ubuntu ?
[01:13] <grumbly> farrioth: you, senator, are a generous man.
[01:14] <ann-sophie> ok..so ill download the i386?
[01:14] <jagginess> ann-sophie, the "alternate" in the name of the iso file.. isn't the "standard" desktop (be it 32bit or 64bit)
[01:15] <DeucesWildCatch2> Is it the "disc identifier"
[01:15] <ann-sophie> but... jagginess do i have to "unistall"
[01:15] <jagginess> ann-sophie, the installer may look a bit different.. and i have no clue on the latest.. but i can give you a link for the standard amd64 (64 bit, which is also use for intel-- intel uses the amd64 iso of course)
[01:15] <trent286> psusi - because I want to virtualise the physical machine.  So first I create a raw image, then perform P2V process.
[01:15] <jagginess> ann-sophie, but sounds like you had "somewhat" of a success.. how far are you into the install?
[01:15] <steveGODSchild> I need help
[01:15] <ann-sophie> Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS 64 bit is the good one?
[01:16] <trent286> psusi - i am virtualising the machine so that I can simulate and document a major upgrade, work out the bugs before I go live
[01:16] <rushiop> help please with my webcam vaio
[01:16] <DeucesWildCatch2> Someone please help me ipe my hard drive on this machine? I just want to clean it and use it as a learnind device for ubuntu before i switch all of my other computers to it.
[01:16] <jagginess> ann-sophie, which mirror country can i look into? (i mean the download would be faster to you)
[01:16] <steveGODSchild> I am running windows 7 as my main operating system
[01:16] <Stanley00> !enter | steveGODSchild
[01:17] <ann-sophie> jaghing s well..Gnome is intalled...im able to choose to boot with ubuntu or windows...if i boot windows every goes well...ubuntu..i fall on a prompt line
[01:17] <ann-sophie> jab416171|Cloud im in canada
[01:17] <steveGODSchild> and running ubuntu 12.04 in virtual box
[01:17] <jagginess> ann-sophie, any "errors" ?
[01:18] <DeucesWildCatch2> im currently stuck trying to figure out my hard drives name
[01:18] <steveGODSchild> but my cd rom will not work
[01:18] <Respite212> deuceswildcatch2: I believe it's sudo blkid
[01:18] <ann-sophie> jagginess besside the errors telling that the application part has failed
[01:18] <DeucesWildCatch2> what does that stand for?
[01:18] <jagginess> ann-sophie, what's the name of this "application", is it grub?
[01:18] <DeucesWildCatch2> block id?
[01:19] <ann-sophie> before the grub install
[01:19] <DeucesWildCatch2> Thanks Respite i was trying too hard to get some help..
[01:19] <Respite212> deuceswildcatch2: I believe it lists out the UUID for all your partitions and drives.
[01:19] <ann-sophie> after i install the grub and it works
[01:19] <jagginess> ann-sophie, sounds like you're using wubi
[01:19] <overclucker> Respite212: ok now add /dev/vol/home or it's UUID to the home line in fstab
[01:20] <actionParsnip> rushiop: if you can pastebin the output of:  lsusb; lsb_release -a     we can advise
[01:20] <ann-sophie> wubi? im a major noob...and a girl...dont go to techno bable with me
[01:20] <jagginess> ann-sophie, so you stay "stucked" in grub?
[01:21] <ann-sophie> grub works...
[01:21] <jagginess> ann-sophie, btw, do you know what grub is?
[01:21] <ann-sophie> pretty well
[01:21] <grumbly> DeucesWildCatch2: when you say you need to ind your hard drive's name, do you mean the device id or do you mean what you called it?
[01:21] <jagginess> ann-sophie, ok.. so you're saying the thing "before" grub is problematic. I don't see what that can be.
[01:21] <ann-sophie> its the thing that lets me boot in windows or ubuntu
[01:21] <DeucesWildCatch2> Respite212, thank you what is the significanse of "swap" or ext4"
[01:21] <jagginess> ann-sophie, did you change anything in grub.cfg?
[01:21] <ann-sophie> ill restart and installtion...and and not exactly
[01:22] <ann-sophie> note*
[01:22] <Respite212> deuceswildcatch2: swap is for additional space for ram during sleep mode, ext4 is the file extention.
[01:22] <ann-sophie> what is the message
[01:22] <DeucesWildCatch2> I can type, although tired I apologize.
[01:22] <jagginess> ann-sophie, there's wubi and non-wubi.. are you "able" to login into the ubuntu command line?
[01:22] <Respite212> overclucker: is it the /dev/vol/home or the actual sda4 uuid?
[01:23] <psusi> trent286, you going to convert the raw image to a qcow2 image?
[01:24] <DeucesWildCatch2> Grumbly, while using ehow, it gave instructions to Wipe a hard drive by typing "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=device bs=1M" into the "Terminal" window, replacing "device" with the device name of the hard drive and pressing "Enter."
[01:24] <Respite212> overclucker: I got 2, one is for the /dev/sda4 uuid, the other is /dev/mapper/vol-home
[01:24] <DeucesWildCatch2> However I am unsure of what the device name could be.
[01:24] <grumbly> DeucesWildCatch2: ah!  there are several ways to get this info!  in the terminal, you can type mount
[01:25] <trent286> psusi - most likely run virtualbox tool - something like :  $sudo dd if=/dev/sda | VBoxManage convertfromraw stdin MyLinuxImage.vdi
[01:25] <grumbly> DeucesWildCatch2: look for something like /dev/sda1 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-no)
[01:26] <psusi> trench_, then you can skip the raw image and covert directly from the hd to the vdi
[01:26] <grumbly> DeucesWildCatch2: it may not be exactly that, but the important part is /
[01:26] <rushiop> https://bitbucket.org/ahixon/r5u87x wont work, im done, i already use all i have to try make this webcam work, i dont know what to do
[01:26] <grumbly> DeucesWildCatch2: it may not be exactly that, but the important part is the stuff "/dev/sda1 on / "
[01:26] <trent286> psusi - so if i power the machine off, boot to live CD and then do something like the above it should be okay?
[01:26] <DeucesWildCatch2> i found on similar to that except it was (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[01:27] <grumbly> what is the whole line:
[01:27] <grumbly> ?
[01:27] <trent286> psusi - i thought the fakeraid would get in the way of dd
[01:27] <DeucesWildCatch2> well the same for what you put except it was dev/sda5
[01:27] <psusi> trent286, you shouldn't even need to use dd... you should be able to point vboxmanage directly to the drive... fakeraid just means you need to use the /dev/mapper raid device instead of the individual disks
[01:27] <overclucker> Respite212: its /dev/mapper/vol-home
[01:28] <grumbly> Oh... you're partition scheme is weird.  was this a wubi install?
[01:29] <farrioth> grumbly: http://dpaste.com/811370/
[01:29] <grumbly> DeucesWildCatch2: ignore that... What is it you want to do exactly?  are you trying to format a drive or change the partition scheme or just erase some data?
[01:29] <Respite212> overclucker: I got 2 home lines in fstab
[01:29] <farrioth> grumbly: Change the first three variables, and perhaps the sleep timeouts.
[01:30] <farrioth> grumbly: Then let me know if it doesn't work or if any of the script doesn't make sense.
[01:30] <DeucesWildCatch2> I am just trying to wipe the drive cleaning every thing on it, so that this lappy can be used for learning not only ubuntu but as a teaching aid for my 6 year old.
[01:30] <grumbly> farrioth: THANK YOU!  I will..  it will be tomorrow around this same time
[01:30] <Respite212> # /home was on /dev/sda4 during installation UUID=be5f9224-86dd-473d-8874-e3bb7f4eff7b /home  & /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 0 UUID=657c3a11-60ac-47d7-af6b-367e08903029 /home ext4 nodev,nosuid 0 2
[01:30] <trent286> psusi - ok I must have over-read the info and issues relating to software raid 1 and the dd tool.  Will give it a go with: sudo dd if=/dev/md0 | VBoxManage convertfromraw stdin MyLinuxImage.vdi
[01:31] <DeucesWildCatch2> grumbly, i have a disc to start ubunto on after everything is wiped
[01:31] <grumbly> DeucesWildCatch2: AH!!!! OK!!!! when you boot the computer, boot off the CD or USB.  while there, just repartition the drive.  all the data will be essentailly gone.
[01:31] <psusi> trent286, as I said before, you don't need dd at all... just sudo VBoxManage convertfromraw /dev/mapper/whatever MyLinuxImage.vdi
[01:31] <rsnell> uit
[01:32] <DeucesWildCatch2> ok... using ubuntu... how do i do that ?
[01:32] <trent286> psusi - aha!
[01:32] <trent286> psusi - sorry
[01:32] <DeucesWildCatch2> I put the disc in and I shut it down and when it restarted everything was the same.
[01:32] <Canuckian> press f2 or f12 during the startup cycle, to get a one time boot menu
[01:32] <Canuckian> DeucesWildCatch2 ^^
[01:32] <DeucesWildCatch2> Yes canukian?
[01:32] <Canuckian> read my comment right before that
[01:33] <overclucker> Respite212: you can remove the other home line
[01:33] <psusi> trent286, one thing... where is MyLinuxImage.vdi going to go?
[01:33] <DeucesWildCatch2> hmm, during the boot up?
[01:33] <Canuckian> do it right when your hardware logo shows up.
[01:33] <trent286> psusi - onto a spare disk connected to the localbus
[01:33] <Respite212> overcluckers: which one? the first or second?
[01:33] <farrioth> grumbly: You're welcome.  Just checking you got my private message?
[01:34] <grumbly> farrioth: just saw it
[01:34] <grumbly> farrioth: thank you a lot
[01:34] <farrioth> grumbly: No problem.
[01:35] <overclucker> Respite212: the oen with the UUID for /dev/mapper/vol-home
[01:35] <Respite212> overclucker: I add it like this right? #UUID=164bf67f-3eea-429f-b6f3-e943bd05c917 /home ext4 nodev,nosuid 0 2
[01:36] <DeucesWildCatch2> canukian i have a flashing line on a black screen and a disc that sounds like it is trying to read
[01:36] <overclucker> Respite212: there should be no #, # marks a line as a comment
[01:36] <DeucesWildCatch2> upon pushing F2 it sent me to a disc screen but it would onl test it
[01:37] <actionParsnip> DeucesWildCatch2: what video chip do you use.
[01:38] <DeucesWildCatch2> Canukian, how long is it supposed to stay black and sound like the disc is turning.
[01:39] <Respite212> overclucker: Ok done.
[01:39] <Respite212> overclucker: Do I restart?
[01:39] <cornell> Anybody use update manager to upgrade to 12.04?  Go smoothly?
[01:39] <DeucesWildCatch2> actionparsnip on this asus i use a, ATI Radeon HD 4670 Graphics chip 1gb dedicated ram
[01:40] <actionParsnip> DeucesWildCatch2: try the boot option:  nomodeset
[01:41] <DeucesWildCatch2> am i using a terminal to get that boot option or restarting the machine again?
[01:41] <actionParsnip> !bootoption
[01:41] <DeucesWildCatch2> See i told you I was new to Ubuntu.
[01:42] <overclucker> Respite212: still need to add the other partition
[01:43] <DeucesWildCatch2> thank you ubottu
[01:43] <Respite212> overclucker: Ok. Im curious, did my /home get moved to the sda4 yet?
[01:43] <DeucesWildCatch2> im still waiting for the booting of ubuntu, man this thing is taking forever.......
[01:44] <overclucker> Respite212: sorta. it was moved to /dev/vol/home which is a logical volume. the data is on that disk
[01:45] <Respite212> overclucker: hmm ok. What do I do now for the sdb1?
[01:45] <overclucker> Respite212: now the other partition needs the lvm flag set in gparted
[01:46] <Respite212> overclucker: done that
[01:46] <actionParsnip> DeucesWildCatch2: try pressing CTRL+ALT+F1   do you get a prompt?
[01:46] <acolytetojippity> Quick question, is there an easy way to determine if a given version of ubuntu will be compatible with a given hardware setup?
[01:46] <overclucker> Respite212: sudo pvcreate /dev/sdb1
[01:46] <Respite212> overclucker: Should I reformat it first?
[01:47] <actionParsnip> acolytetojippity: run it in liveCD
[01:47] <acolytetojippity> That works fine.
[01:47] <acolytetojippity> But the actual install doesn't.  I'm trying to boot from a portable hard drive
[01:47] <acolytetojippity> It works perfectly on the computers we use in class, but not on my personal machine
[01:48] <actionParsnip> acolytetojippity: are they different computers (make / model)?
[01:49] <Respite212> overclucker: sudo pvcreate /dev/sdb1 and I got "Can't open /dev/sdb1 exclusively.  Mounted filesystem?"
[01:49] <Emanon> Is there any chance you guys could stop taking out the good posts of your OS? First you dropped Pidgin for Empathy which to be perfectly honest is lame. Now your shopping the alternate install disc so I can't set up with RAID or full disc encryption. What's going on?
[01:49] <acolytetojippity> @actionParsnip: yes they are.
[01:49] <Emanon> Good parts*
[01:49] <actionParsnip> Emanon: I use pidgin. I'm using it now
[01:49] <actionParsnip> acolytetojippity: thats probably why then. What happens when you try to boot?
[01:50] <actionParsnip> Emanon: its not dropped at all
[01:50] <farrioth> Emanon: I'm having the same issue after upgrading from lucid to precise.  I'd be using Mint instead but I can't be bothered configuring everything from scratch again.
[01:50] <Emanon> On a side note: sorry for the misspellings I hate auto correct.
[01:51] <actionParsnip> !info pidgin quantal | Emanon
[01:51] <DeucesWildCatch2> actionparsnip, it just popped up with a try ubuntu or install ubunto.. did that do it?
[01:51] <actionParsnip> Emanon: its even in the next release
[01:51] <actionParsnip> DeucesWildCatch2: Try Ubuntu
[01:51] <farrioth> !info libindicate-qt0
[01:52] <actionParsnip> !find libindicate
[01:52] <DeucesWildCatch2> Aww, I put install,
[01:52] <Emanon> Right, it's not the default. That was my point.
[01:52] <DeucesWildCatch2> dang it.
[01:52] <acolytetojippity> @parsnip grub yells at me, about unknown filesystem?
[01:52] <actionParsnip> DeucesWildCatch2: either is fine
[01:52] <Emanon> Empathy should be optional because it sucks.
[01:52] <actionParsnip> Emanon: it is, you have the option to remove it
[01:52] <actionParsnip> Emanon: think about it
[01:53] <Emanon> Funny...
[01:53] <actionParsnip> Emanon: how so?
[01:53] <actionParsnip> Emanon: its not a mandatory package, it can be removed. You have that option
[01:53] <Emanon> In a sarcastic fashion.
[01:53] <actionParsnip> Emanon: its not, i'm telling you how your OS works
[01:53] <Emanon> Or did you mean the diving part?
[01:53] <farrioth> actionParsnip: I use kmail, and the version shipped with precise is slow and buggy.  I'd like to use the older version which doesn't use akonadi etc., but it has been dropped from the repos, so I'm having to sort out deps by hand.
[01:53] <Emanon> Sucking*
[01:54] <actionParsnip> Emanon: I hate firefox, but I remove it and promptly install the browser I prefer
[01:54] <DeucesWildCatch2> I am at a screen that gives me th options to install ubuntu alongside them, erase disc and install ubuntu or something else..Sine my hard drive is partitioned for a triboot. and i am just wanting to erase everything else is it going to completely alter the entire hard drive?
[01:54] <Canuckian> if you erase everything, it will erase EVERYTHING
[01:54] <Emanon> And what about the alternate install disc? Is that getting dropped?
[01:55] <DeucesWildCatch2> so i would need to repartition theHD?
[01:55] <actionParsnip> Emanon: seems so http://news.softpedia.com/news/Canonical-Drops-Alternate-CDs-from-Ubuntu-12-10-289338.shtml
[01:55] <Emanon> Lame.
[01:56] <jagginess> DeucesWildCatch2, if you choose erase, it will wipe out any existing partitions
[01:56] <actionParsnip> Emanon: Lubuntu has an alternate ISO
[01:56] <actionParsnip> Emanon: but you knew that
[01:56] <jagginess> DeucesWildCatch2, "something else" allows you to do "manual" partitioning and is the safest way to do it if you want to keep existing partitions
[01:56] <DeucesWildCatch2> Canukian, as this was given to me, I am ok with that, i was just hoping to delete everything that was done in Ubuntu without having to repartition the drive.. if that is what i need to do than I can work with that.
[01:57] <jagginess> DeucesWildCatch2, ...
[01:57] <jagginess> DeucesWildCatch2, ...
[01:57] <actionParsnip> Emanon: anything else you want to rant about?
[01:57] <jagginess> DeucesWildCatch2, ubuntu's option "something else" allows you to do manual partitioning.
[01:57] <DeucesWildCatch2> jagginess i can completely wipe out documents and pictures that were used on the ubuntu os partition?
[01:57] <Emanon> But I actually like unity. Lxde isn't good.
[01:57] <jagginess> DeucesWildCatch2, i think you missed the 'upgrade' option, ubuntu is able to upgrade itself from cd, if you already have ubuntu installed
[01:58] <actionParsnip> Emanon: then install Unity as you wish, if the alternate ISO is SOOOO important to you
[01:58] <DeucesWildCatch2> my sidter gave me this and it was given to her b her ex. i just found out it has open VPN.. so, i guess i will just wipe it and repartition it.
[01:58] <Emanon> actionParsnip do I know you from another channel?
[01:58] <jagginess> DeucesWildCatch2, you can wipe out everything, but there's a more convenient tool for doing this, it's gparted live cd (from sourceforge)
[01:58] <DeucesWildCatch2> oh alright I am sitting up now, I am so sorry for the typos
[01:59] <actionParsnip> Emanon: just here, I also #ubuntu+1 and #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:59] <DeucesWildCatch2> sourceforge.
[01:59] <Canuckian> DeucesWildCatch2: in that case, do as jagginess said and do manual partioning
[01:59] <jagginess> DeucesWildCatch2, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[01:59] <Canuckian> partitioning*
[01:59] <wilee-nilee> Emanon, You attract snarky comments?
[02:00] <Emanon> Hmm. Thought I might have seen you in rant radio.
[02:00] <jagginess> DeucesWildCatch2, if you want a dualboot, you should install windows first,, the ubuntu install can automatically add a windows menu item to it's boot loader
[02:00] <actionParsnip> Emanon: no idea what that even is, sorry
[02:00] <Respite212> sudo pvcreate /dev/sdb1 -> "Can't open /dev/sdb1 exclusively.  Mounted filesystem?" Anyone got a solution to this?
[02:00] <actionParsnip> Respite212: is /dev/sdb1 mounted?
[02:00] <Respite212> yeah
[02:00] <actionParsnip> Respite212: then that's why
[02:01] <overclucker> Respite212: ah that's right you have that mounted as /home right now.
[02:01] <Emanon> It's ok it's somewhat obscure.
[02:01] <Respite212> actionParsnip: I can't unmount it either
[02:01] <actionParsnip> Respite212: you can do stuff in liveCD/USB then
[02:02] <actionParsnip> Respite212: its in use so you wont. liveCD will free the device
[02:02] <Respite212> actionParsnip: What is livecd?
[02:02] <actionParsnip> Respite212: the thing you installed the OS with, you can boot to that and get an OS that runs in RAM
[02:03] <Respite212> so I got to boot from usb?
[02:05] <Respite212> overclucker: Err, what should I do now? boot from usb and try to configure the sdb1 drive?
[02:05] <actionParsnip> Respite212: yes, it will free up the file system and you can do as you like
[02:05] <TJ-> overclucker: actionParsnip Respite212 I've read-back but missed the actual config of the system. I may be wrong, but would it be possible to put off converting sdb1 to a PV until after rebooting?
[02:05] <farrioth> Could someone give me the name of a good systray volume applet without too many deps?
[02:06] <jagginess> farrioth, maybe you can use the console's alsamixer
[02:06] <actionParsnip> farrioth: sudo apt-get --reinstall install indicator-sound
[02:06] <jagginess> farrioth, look for 'mixer' or 'volume' in synaptic or apt-cache search
[02:07] <actionParsnip> farrioth: https://code.google.com/p/volti/
[02:07]  * jagginess is tihnking farrioth is using a lightweigth windowmanager
[02:07] <farrioth> jagginess: I can change volume with alsamixer, but I'd like something in the systray.
[02:07] <farrioth> jagginess: Yes, openbox.
[02:07] <actionParsnip> gotta love openbox
[02:08] <jagginess> farrioth, i'm sure there's a few.. you'll have to poke around, or maybe ask someone on #openbox
[02:08] <jagginess> farrioth, (#linux people must know)
[02:08] <farrioth> jagginess: Good idea, thanks.
[02:09] <overclucker> TJ-: that's probably the only thing to do, since it's mounted
[02:09] <pibarnas> farrioth: pnmixer.
[02:10] <actionParsnip> farrioth: https://volti.googlecode.com/files/volti_0.2.3-1_all.deb   is the deb file itself
[02:10] <TJ-> overclucker: Saves a an unnecessary reboot into a live environment, with associated delays
[02:10] <Respite212> overclucker: so what should I do now?
[02:11] <farrioth> actionParsnip: Thanks, I'm looking into that, need python-alsaaudio now...
[02:11] <_Marcus> My MAC address changed because I cloned a VirtualBox machine and ran it. How do I automatically update Ubuntu's networking to make it work with my new MAC address?
[02:11] <Canuckian> ....
[02:12] <yekoms> that should be asked in #virtualbox _Marcus
[02:12] <CookieJar> ok, my friend is attempting to connect to an adsl connection directly with Ubuntu, he is unable to connect and isn't provided with info to fill in the "Service" box on the connection manager window. Not sure what to do so asking for help here
[02:12] <overclucker> Respite212: either reboot into rocovery mode or boot a live cd
[02:12] <_Marcus> yekoms: I don't think so. It's Ubuntu-related because I'm changing Ubuntu settings to work with a new MAC address. It's pretty much equal to switching out a networking card in a physical machine.
[02:13] <farrioth> pibarnas: Thanks for the suggestion.
[02:13] <yekoms> _Marcus, have you tried sudo service networking restart ?
[02:13] <Respite212> overclucker: Hmmm how do I boot into recovery and once I get there, what should I do to sdb1?
[02:13] <DeucesWildCatch2> ey i found the nomodeset
[02:13] <F0X-D1E> Hey there, I need some help about setting up a live CD with persistence
[02:13] <pibarnas> farrioth: u r welcome.
[02:13] <DeucesWildCatch2> DANG...
[02:14] <overclucker> Respite212: hold shift on boot to get to the grub menu, then select the recovery option and then select root
[02:14] <F0X-D1E> See I need to set up the partitions so windows wont see the liveUSB partition
[02:15] <Canuckian> DeucesWildCatch2: what happened when you went with nomodeset?
[02:15] <Elesa> Hi, this question is meant for Arch, but.. How do I disable wlan0's Power Management FOREVER in any Linux system? <_<
[02:15] <F0X-D1E> but, following the guides on the documentation on the wiki... didnt work.. kept getting boot Grub errors
[02:15] <DeucesWildCatch2> it is on a memory test now, blue screen memtest
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> F0X-D1E, an partition past the first wont be seen
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> any*
[02:15] <Elesa> I don't want to run iwconfig wlan0 power off every time I boot
[02:15] <F0X-D1E> wilee-nilee: yes, and. I got that part but following the guides to install the live usb on a hidden or second partition didnt work
[02:16] <Respite212> overclucker: What do I do after I select root?
[02:16] <overclucker> Respite212: the next part can be reisky if not done correctly, so I would suggest reading up on a few things before continuing.
[02:16] <pibarnas> Elesa: make a boot script. like in rc.local.
[02:16] <F0X-D1E> wilee-nilee: As I kept getting grub error 15 and error 17
[02:16] <Emanon> You could set a script to run at boot to do it for you Elesa.
[02:16] <F0X-D1E> moving the partition manually in gparted didnt work either, made up the same errors
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> F0X-D1E, What release of Ubuntu are you using?
[02:17] <F0X-D1E> wilee-nilee: 12.04
[02:17] <CookieJar> ┐('～`；)┌ looks like I am ignored
[02:17] <Elesa> Umm.. How would I exactly do that? I'm still new when it comes to bash stuff.
[02:17] <DeucesWildCatch2> Is is difficult to partition the machine for a triboot?  because honestly Canukian, the original owner of the lappy worked for a company that kept confidentiality very high, and that there is an open VPN tunnel. well
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> F0X-D1E, So whats the rationalization on keeping windows from seeing it?
[02:17] <actionParsnip> CookieJar: if nobody knows, nobody can answer, can they?
[02:18] <jagginess> F0X-D1E, use gparted live cd, and drag the starting point of your main linux partition over to the left or right.. (make sure "1 mb" nearest is rounded off << checkbox)
[02:18] <F0X-D1E> wilee-nilee: I have a friend that wanted to boot from the usb, and use the usb for standard storage
 ok, my friend is attempting to connect to an adsl connection directly with Ubuntu, he is unable to connect and isn't provided with info to fill in the "Service" box on the connection manager window. Not sure what to do so asking for help here
[02:18] <CookieJar> about 5 minutes ago^
[02:18] <F0X-D1E> jagginess: I did
[02:18] <F0X-D1E> but
[02:18] <F0X-D1E> jagginess: made boot errors at startup from the live usb
[02:18] <Respite212> overclucker: Would it be better if I boot from cd/usb?
[02:18] <jagginess> F0X-D1E, you'll need to re-install grub
[02:18] <DeucesWildCatch2> I just wanted an easier way to erase the hard drive, and to be honest i am not even sure I would need the partitioning although I would love to ditch windows completely at some point and figures to do taht with this lappy first.
[02:18] <F0X-D1E> jagginess: any way to specifically do this?
[02:18] <actionParsnip> CookieJar: try the forums or wait an hour or so and reask, different users
[02:18] <jagginess> F0X-D1E, you'll need to re-install grub
[02:18] <F0X-D1E> Ive seen ways of doing it on HDD
[02:19] <jagginess> F0X-D1E, grub-install /dev/<your usb head>
[02:19] <F0X-D1E> but, this is a LiveUSB
[02:19] <F0X-D1E> jagginess: just that?
[02:19] <jagginess> F0X-D1E, so boot a recue environment for it
[02:19] <mrjonwilson> Hello everyone
[02:19] <F0X-D1E> jagginess: its, a live usb..
[02:19] <jagginess> F0X-D1E, yeah it's a live usb
[02:20] <mrjonwilson> I am wondering if I can install ubuntu in linux mint
[02:20] <Elesa> How do I create a boot script?
[02:20] <F0X-D1E> there was no option for booting into recovery
[02:20] <mrjonwilson> So I can keep all my files and everything.
[02:20] <jagginess> mrjonwilson, virtualbox ?
[02:20] <Elesa> mrjonwilson, what do you mean?
[02:20] <F0X-D1E> i can grub-install from the terminal
[02:20] <jagginess> mrjonwilson, this is safe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtualbox
[02:20] <F0X-D1E> let me try that maybe, maybe that will work. has to actually.
[02:20] <mrjonwilson> jagginess, not really. I am running Mint right now, but I want Ubuntu. I don't want to lose everything.
[02:21] <jagginess> mrjonwilson, well you may lose everything, so back up your data, and use gparted live cd to resize the mint stuff to make room for ubuntu
[02:21] <Elesa> mrjonwilson, do you have a separate partition for /home at least?
[02:22] <mrjonwilson> Elesa, yes. I have windoze xp and Mint dual boot.
[02:22] <mrjonwilson> I guess the best way is to wipe the Mint partition and install Ubuntu?
[02:22] <jagginess> mrjonwilson, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[02:22] <jagginess> mrjonwilson, ? no.. you dont have to..
[02:23] <Elesa> But you have a separate partition where /home is, right? That might help lots
[02:23] <actionParsnip> gparted is on the Ubuntu CD, why do you need another CD?
[02:23] <jagginess> mrjonwilson, you can resize the mint partition with the lvie cd tool i mentioned
[02:23] <jagginess> Elesa, he doesnt.. he's quite new to linux
[02:23] <actionParsnip> why waste another CD, you already have the app on a bootable media.....
[02:24] <jagginess> mrjonwilson, when you make at least 7 gigs free.. you can add a "ext4" partition for ubuntu
[02:24] <mrjonwilson> thanks jagginess and elesa. I am familiar with gparted.
[02:24] <jagginess> actionParsnip, because gparted live cd has the latest gparted than any other linux distro
[02:24] <mrjonwilson> I just wanted to see if there was a way to install ubuntu using the terminal in mint.
[02:25] <actionParsnip> jagginess: you can upgrade gparted from the liveCD to get te latest version in the repos
[02:25] <jagginess> actionParsnip, he's using mint.
[02:25] <actionParsnip> then it's not supported here
[02:25] <jagginess> read above.
[02:25] <jagginess> nm
[02:25] <overclucker> Respite212: The next part envolves initializing /dev/sdb1 as a physical volume, extending the volume group onto it, extending the logical volume for home, and resizing the ext4 filesystem. the two steps can damage the filesystem if done incorrectly so you should probably read up on how to do it before trying it.
[02:26] <mikegit> can someone please tell me where I might ask a Git Question?  ... I'm trying to force manual merging (mark conflicts on ALL differenced files) to prevent automatic merging...
[02:26] <jagginess> mrjonwilson, it's up to you how you want to make space (i've never given any instruction on how to work with mint, it's not the purpose of the channel)
[02:26] <mrjonwilson> jagginess, I understand. I appreciate your time, though. :)
[02:27] <Respite212> overclucker: Thanks. I'll see what I can find.
[02:28] <overclucker> Respite212: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/commontask.html errors on caution so it's a good resource
[02:30] <farrioth> mikegit: Have you tried #git?
[02:31] <Respite212> overclucker: What is my volumn group?
[02:31] <Respite212> in vgcreate?
[02:32] <overclucker> Respite212: the label we created was 'vol'
[02:32] <Respite212> so in order to activate my volumn group I do vgcreate vol /dev/sdb1?
[02:32] <farrioth> Is there a GUI tool available for editing .fonts.conf? (Not Gnome, please)
[02:33] <mikegit> farrioth: yes but for some reason it says I can't type anything in the channel... do you know why?
[02:33] <mikegit> farrioth:   I think it defaults everyone in #git  to not be able to type unless they have elevated permissions ...
[02:33] <farrioth> mikegit: You may need to register your nick or similar.
[02:34] <farrioth> mikegit: I just found the same problem in ##linux.
[02:34] <overclucker> Respite212: that's already been done. for now it might be best to reboot to apply the /home change
[02:35] <Respite212> overclucker: We did change /home right?
[02:35] <overclucker> Respite212: yes it should mount /dev/vol/home  onto /home when you reboot
[02:35] <hilo> x
[02:36] <Respite212> overclucker: let me reboot then... brb.
[02:36] <actionParsnip> farrioth: why do you need a GUI?
[02:37] <farrioth> actionParsnip: Because I'm lazy.
[02:37] <actionParsnip> farrioth: just copy the font into /usr/share/fonts/truetype   then run: sudo fc-cache -f -v      it's not hard in any way
[02:38] <actionParsnip> farrioth: are you using kde?
[02:38] <Respite212> overclucker: Ok.
[02:39] <farrioth> actionParsnip: No, I'm wanting to tweak hinting/antialiasing etc.  I'm using openbox, but I wouldn't object to a kde tool.
[02:39] <actionParsnip> farrioth: ubuntu-tweak can do that
[02:39] <Respite212> overclucker: That worked, now I can sudo pvcreate /dev/sdb1
[02:40] <overclucker> Respite212: type mount in a terminal and look for /home
[02:40] <farrioth> actionParsnip: I'll try that, thanks.
[02:40] <Respite212> overclucker: /dev/mapper/vol-home on /home type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev)
[02:41] <overclucker> Respite212: that's good.
[02:42] <Respite212> overclucker: Thanks. What do I do now with sdb1?
[02:44] <overclucker> Respite212: before you try extending your home with it you should try creating a physical volume, a volume group and some logical volumes
[02:47] <Guest41866> hi all, what file do i edit so ubuntu will stop trying to install apache , I have lighty running and i have to stop and remove apache and restart lighty
[02:47] <overclucker> Respite212: then get familiar with using lvextend, mkfs.ext4, e2fsck, and resize2fs without damaging the ext4 filesystem.
[02:47] <Guest41866> can someone assit -
[02:48] <jagginess> Guest41866, well you're install an app that needs in order to work
[02:49] <Respite212> overclucker: when I create a volume group in sdb1, do I still use the same vol label?
[02:50] <Guest41866> jagginess: lighty does not need apache2-common
[02:50] <Guest41866> it installs and auto starts itself which blocks my content
[02:50] <jagginess> Guest12381, check /etc/default
[02:52] <overclucker> Respite212: since there's already a volume group labeled vol you'll need to pick a different one.
[02:53] <jagginess> Guest41866, check /etc/default you foolish 41866
[02:53] <jagginess> :)
[02:54] <Guest41866> jamestunnicliffe: thx, there was an apache2 config file in there , getting rid of it will hopefully give me peace(kick a windows box for luck) _-)
[03:04] <DeucesWildCatch2> ok, I am back and bah..
[03:04] <DeucesWildCatch2> How does one take a laptop using ubuntu to the root to manually delete everything?
[03:06] <satellit_e> format disk from live CD?
[03:06] <hmmwhatsthisdo> rm -rf /
[03:11] <k1gwb> How do I write a shell script that will run a command under sudo?
[03:11] <k1gwb> I don't want to have to type the password in, but rather to have it (yes in plain text) in the sh file itself.
[03:11] <k1gwb> (unless there's a better way)
[03:15] <farrioth> k1gwb: You can edit your sudoers file to allow sudoing with no password, or you could run the script as setuid root.
[03:16] <shirley99cr> well, i'm  having trouble getting firefox to launch from the launcher (ubuntu 11.10)
[03:16] <k1gwb> I just want this one script not to require password, so I guess setuid is the best option. Can't recall how to do that. I'll look into it.
[03:16] <k1gwb> oh is that just chmod 4755?
[03:17] <shirley99cr> google hasn't been any help in resolving my problem
[03:17] <wilee-nilee> farrioth, Please do not advise people on a no password.
[03:17] <wilee-nilee> in the sudo file
[03:18] <farrioth> wilee-nilee: It seems like a better option than having the password stored as plaintext somewhere.
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> farrioth, probably so, but we want to keep a standard is all.
[03:20] <farrioth> wilee-nilee: What is the standard way of sudoing without a password?
[03:20] <eset> beunas noches
[03:20] <wilee-nilee> farrioth, not to advise this on the channel basically keep the OS as it is run.
[03:21] <DeucesWildCatch2> to anyone, i am using ubuntu, how do I use my terminal to get to root command and wipe that partition?
[03:21] <farrioth> wilee-nilee: What is the puprose of this channel if not to advise?
[03:21] <wilee-nilee> farrioth, This is something you ought to ask the mods on.
[03:22] <ubiquity__> hi all, I don't know if I'm in the right chan or not
[03:22] <farrioth> DeucesWildCatch2: You shouldn't wipe the partition you're booted from.  I'd suggest booting a livecd or similar.
[03:22] <ubiquity__> looking for some help with ubuntu graphics problems
[03:22] <ubiquity__> i'm kind of a new user
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> farrioth, Basically we don't advise how to run in root, no passwrod is basically the same.
[03:23] <farrioth> wilee-nilee: I'm assuming that the purpose of this channel is to offer advice, so I'll continue to do so for now.
[03:23] <farrioth> wilee-nilee: Many commands need to be run as root, however.
[03:24] <DeucesWildCatch2> i have a livecd, but this lappy is perfectly partitioned and I am trying to wipe all of the stuff my sister had on this so that no private information is still there.. also, There is an open VPN tunnel on this machine.
[03:24] <wilee-nilee> farrioth, Of course that is a good, you want to use some common sense is all. Yes many commands need super user that why there is sudo.
[03:24] <DeucesWildCatch2> im working with bash
[03:24] <DeucesWildCatch2> but I am NEW to ubuntu.
[03:24] <farrioth> DeucesWildCatch2: The root partition contains your installation, do you want to wipe that.
[03:26] <farrioth> wilee-nilee: I don't see where I'm lacking common sense. k1gwb was asking how to sudo a command without entering a password, as I understood it.
[03:26] <DeucesWildCatch2> will that also wipe any photos and stuff on that partition?
[03:26] <wilee-nilee> farrioth, Telling someone that they can run without out a password is not common sense.
[03:27] <farrioth> DeucesWildCatch2: Yes, but you shouldn't/can't wipe a partition while you're running an OS from it.
[03:27] <farrioth> wilee-nilee: It is if they are asking how to.
[03:28] <DeucesWildCatch2> and that is why the Livecd is being used am I right?  i was told that i needed to get into the root and begin manually delteing things.
[03:28] <DeucesWildCatch2> but i wouldn't know where to begin farrioth.. is it as simple as sudo and whatever command to delete photos? or
[03:29] <farrioth> DeucesWildCatch2: Sorry, I missed the fact that you were on a livecd.  Do you want to delete everything on the partition or just certain files?
[03:29] <ubiquity__> DeucesWildCatch2, can you just use the GUI to delete files?
[03:29] <ubiquity__> or am I in the wrong part of the conversation?
[03:30] <DeucesWildCatch2> I am trying to delete certain files and if that doesnt work then I will settle for all.
[03:30] <ramprasadgk> can i recover windows pwd from linux , both os on same dirve?
[03:30] <grumpy> Hello every one... I hope someone knows the answer to this cause I don't! I should add that I'm new to Linux so not knowing is not a news flash.  In any event I have been working on this problem for 3 days now with no resolve. It's driving me nuts! I have a new DVD "Marvels Avengers" that plays the DVD in my DVD player in vmware running mythbuntu with mythbuntu's default player but will not play in vlc or mplayer2 on that emulation nor
[03:30] <grumpy>  will it play on the host computer. I have installed Ubuntu's restricted extras, ffmpeg, mencoder, Medibuntu repository including libdvdcss2 and bdvdnav4, lilibdvdread4, gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad, and gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly. But still nothing.... My computer is a home built running Ubuntu 12.04. My computer is water cooled with the Intel i7 950 quad core 64 bit cpu, on a Rampage III extreme Motherboard, it has 24 gigs of ram,  3-1
[03:30] <grumpy> Tb hdds and one128 gig ssd running the operating system. My Video card is GeForce GTX 580 and I'm running NVIDIA drivers. I also wanted to put the movie in my mythbuntu movie collection and I have tried Handbreak, Thoggen, K9copy, DVD::RIP, AcidRip and ran dd if=/dev/sr0 of=~/Videos/Avengers2.iso in the Terminal (with some success but it won't play in anything). Vlc and mplayer both open and close immediately when I play from the DVD p
[03:30] <FloodBot1> grumpy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:31] <ubiquity__> I need help troubleshooting graphics issues I am having
[03:32] <DeucesWildCatch2> farrioth how do i just delete that partition when i dont even know which partition my os is currently using??
[03:32] <farrioth> I'm using uim-xim, which works straight off in most programs, but in gnome-terminal, I need to select X Input Method every time I run a new terminal before it will work.  Is there a way to tell gnome-terminal to use this by default?  I have uim chosen in im-switch.
[03:32] <farrioth> DeucesWildCatch2: Do you have the partition mouned at the moment?
[03:33] <farrioth> ubiquity__: Ask your question, someone might be able to help. (Possibly not me, though.)
[03:34] <ubiquity__> I am new, so bare with me here
[03:34] <ubiquity__> ran a system test
[03:34] <ubiquity__> failed graphics/comiz_check
[03:34] <ubiquity__> i am not able to run unity 3d
[03:35] <ubiquity__> and my resolution is all wonky at 1024x768 or w/e default is
[03:35] <ubiquity__> i have attempted http://lkubuntu.wordpress.com/2011/08/30/quick-and-easy-way-to-fix-x11-issues/
[03:36] <ubiquity__> (which i believe is restarting xorg)
[03:36] <DeucesWildCatch2> i would believe so as that is how i using ubuntu right now
[03:36] <ubiquity__> and done all the necessary standard googling to find the solution to the problem
[03:37] <farrioth> DeucesWildCatch2: I thought you were on a livecd?
[03:37] <ubiquity__> so how would I go about attempting to fix these graphics issues
[03:37] <blackshirt> ubiquity__, thats your vga graphic problem
[03:37] <ubiquity__> blackshirt, okay so...how can I fix the problem
[03:37] <ubiquity__> or assist you in assisting me
[03:38] <blackshirt> ubiquity__, what is your graphic card chipset?
[03:38] <DeucesWildCatch2> :( ok I took out the livecd
[03:38] <ubiquity__> blackshirt, Intel HD Graphics 3000. Lenovo Thinkpad L520
[03:39] <grumpy> Hello everyone... I hope someone knows the answer to this cause I don't. I should say that I'm new to Linux so not knowing is not a news flash. I have been working on this for 3 days now and have had no success and going crazy. I have a new DVD that plays in my DVD player in vmware running mythbuntu but it won't play in mplayer or vlc. Vlc both open and close immediately.
[03:39] <ubiquity__> wall of text
[03:39] <blackshirt> i think for more newer chipset, download it from intel
[03:40] <grumpy> I have installed Ubuntu's restricted extras, ffmpeg, mencoder, Medibuntu repository including libdvdcss2 and bdvdnav4, lilibdvdread4, gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad, and gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly. But still nothing
[03:40] <zykotick9> grumpy: have you followed the "/msg ubottu dvd" instructions?
[03:40] <blackshirt> Intel supports linux greatly
[03:40] <cornell> Well, tis time for the rack, thanks all.  TTFN
[03:40] <zykotick9> grumpy: what error does mplayer from cli give from "mplayer dvd://1"?
[03:40] <farrioth> DeucesWildCatch2: So you're running Ubuntu, and you want to remove some files from /, but keep your Ubuntu install?
[03:41] <grumpy> no error with mplayer it justs opens and closes
[03:41] <zykotick9> grumpy: fyi the libdvdread4 is actually the exact same package as libdvdcss2 from medibuntu.
[03:41] <wilee-nilee> grumpy, I think we understand you are frustrated, but you are asked in the channel info to use some care in overposting. If someone knows they will answer.
[03:41] <zykotick9> grumpy: do you get text output? messages?
[03:41] <DeucesWildCatch2> yes,
[03:42] <farrioth> DeucesWildCatch2: And what problem are you having doing this?
[03:42] <zykotick9> grumpy: do other dvds work ok?
[03:44] <grumpy> I ger playerback failure: DVDRead could not open the disk "/dev/dvd'. and Your input can't be opend -VLC is unable to open MRL 'dvd:///dev:dvd and yes other dvd's work just this one
[03:44] <DeucesWildCatch2> I'm an idiot, other than that nothing.  my sister has requested that I wipe the partition and reinstal ubuntu. Problem is it has been almost 10 years since i have anything like this system i was lazy with windows. now I am trying to do as she requested..
[03:45] <ubiquity__> so how do I download the linux drivers from intel?
[03:46] <farrioth> DeucesWildCatch2: Just install as you usually would, selecting the reformat parition or similar option during installation.
[03:46] <DeucesWildCatch2> I would like to learn this system and figured it would be as easy as google to learn what i need, however the first owner of this laptop had it set for a triboot and  when i tried to install the program it gave me an option to delte everything..
[03:46] <DeucesWildCatch2> oh well
[03:47] <winstonw> who needs system32 when you have gentoo
[03:47] <farrioth> DeucesWildCatch2: Did it give you an option to not delete everything, and just use a certain partition?
[03:47] <winstonw> oh dear i thought this was #defocus. forgive me.
[03:48] <DeucesWildCatch2> yes it did it was the third option
[03:49] <farrioth> DeucesWildCatch2: You'll want to chose that option, and it should ask you whether you want to keep the partition as is, or reformat it.
[03:49] <Laurelai> ok im trying to remix an ubuntu live cd and change the firefox default webpage and was directed to try #firefox i did that and they really couldnt help because ubuntu modifies firefox too much (so they said) so how do i change the global default webpage for firefox
[03:49] <DeucesWildCatch2> ok.. farrioth waiting on it now as i reboot it again.
[03:50] <farrioth> DeucesWildCatch2: Okay.  I can't be online much longer (need to go out) but I'll see what I can do.
[03:51] <DeucesWildCatch2> ok well if i cant get this done before you leave, i still thank you farrioth
[03:52] <wilee-nilee> Laurelai, Have you considered build a installed ubuntu and putting using remastersys, you have been at just this one thing for awhile.
[03:52] <wilee-nilee> sorry for the bad grammer lol
[03:52] <farrioth> DeucesWildCatch2: You're welcome.
[03:53] <[x]> how to run .jar file ?
[03:53] <[x]> execute ?
[03:53] <Laurelai> wilee-nilee: i want the default live cd login though and i should be able to edit that behavior
[03:53] <[x]> in a shell
[03:53] <Laurelai> and why wont syspref.js work
[03:53] <Laurelai> ive edited it already
[03:54] <Laurelai> and firefox ignores it
[03:54] <Laurelai> there has to be somewhere it stores those defaults
[03:54] <wilee-nilee> Laurelai, Ah, I forget how the remaster boots but I think it looks like a regular ISO, but you should of course do what works for you. ;O0
[03:54] <[x]> how to run c# in bash shell?
[03:55] <Laurelai> i mean honestly any brower should have a global home page configuration ability
[03:55] <Laurelai> browser*
[03:55] <farrioth> [x]: java -jar foo.jar
[03:56] <Jordan_U> [x]: /path/to/binary.exe
[03:56] <[x]> oh thanks farrioth  !!
[03:57] <[x]> jordan u mean to change directory ?
[03:59] <Jordan_U> [x]: No, I mean that to run a CLR binary from a bash shell you simply have to enter the path to said binary (including './' if you are entering a path relative to the current directory) just like any other executable.
[04:00] <farrioth> DeucesWildCatch2: I need to leave soon, but should be back within 45mins.  Will you be here then?
[04:01] <[x]> :S
[04:01] <DeucesWildCatch2> more than likely farrioth. thank you
[04:01] <[x]> if we direct to .exe files it automatically run .exe ?
[04:01] <farrioth> DeucesWildCatch2: No problem.
[04:02] <Jordan_U> [x]: Only if those .exe files are either CLR binaries, or (if you have wine installed) windows binaries. And the extension doesn't matter, it's just that CLR binaries tend to be named .exe.
[04:03] <[x]> CLR mean ?
[04:04] <[x]> is it posibble to run apt-get install command on ssh shell ?
[04:04] <[x]> clr=clear ?
[04:04] <Jordan_U> [x]: Common Language Runtime, the virtual machine binary language used by C#/.Net.
[04:05] <[x]> oh
[04:05] <[x]> http://pako.googlecode.com/files/Pako%2012.07.29.zip
[04:05] <Jordan_U> [x]: Yes, any command that can be run locally can be run remotely (though in some cases, like commands which launch a GUI, special preparation is needed).
[04:05] <booh-> Is it making a difference to use lilo or grub for software raid?
[04:06] <[x]> i want to run this bot how ?
[04:06] <Jordan_U> booh-: I would highly recommend using grub2 (the default in Ubuntu for some years).
[04:08] <[x]> bashy: ./Pako.exe: cannot execute binary file
[04:08] <booh-> Jordan_U, Why I read on forums that : "Debian 6 forces use of lilo instead of grub for software raid."
[04:08] <Ubiquity_> im trying to enable unity 3d support and failing
[04:08] <Ubiquity_> can someone assist me?
[04:09] <Jordan_U> booh-: I don't know. But grub2 (not grub legacy) has great support for software RAID.
[04:10] <Jordan_U> booh-: Also, Ubuntu 12.04 has a much more recent version of grub than Debian 6.
[04:11] <paulus68> I have a strange network behaviour I can ssh from my laptop(ip 192.168.1.x towards my server 192.168.178.x however I am not able to connect from my server towards my laptop it says no route to host, externally(through dns account) I am able to connect to my laptop internally it gives me the error no route to host how to solve this?
[04:12] <ox1de> how do I install infinity visualizer software on audacious?
[04:13] <Jordan_U> [x]: What is the output of "lsb_release -r"?
[04:13] <aneek> hi friends i am using ubuntu 12.4 . i want to bring my launcher at bottom when i am trying following code "sudo apt-get install unityshell-rotated libnux-1.0-0 compizconfig-settings-manager"
[04:13] <aneek> its showing unable to locate package
[04:13] <Grundoko> How can I get my Motorola Atrix to show up in Rhythmbox or Banshee using MTP?
[04:14] <booh-> Jordan_U in fact... I hesitate between Debian and Ubuntu for a server install... (mail, fileserver and kvm for 1 or 2 vm... windows).  I hesitate also from qmail and postfix for mail... (the company is on QMail since 14 years and I migrate the hardware... a P2-266... on Debian/QMail... and it's done the job ;-) )
[04:14] <[x]> Jordan_U: have to chck in ssh shell ? or unix sheel
[04:14] <aneek> hello
[04:14] <[x]> ?
[04:15] <Jordan_U> [x]: Even when you're using ssh, you're using a unix shell.
[04:15] <[x]> how to pause repos download ?
[04:15] <Jordan_U> [x]: Are you trying to run this software locally or remotely?
[04:15] <trism> aneek: that ppa only has a build for oneiric, as far as I know nobody updated it for 12.04
[04:15] <[x]> trying to run remotely
[04:16] <Jordan_U> [x]: Then I need the output of "lsb_release -r" when run on the remote machine.
[04:17] <[x]> ok Jordan_U
[04:17] <[x]> wow
[04:18] <[x]> Jordan_U: what is lsb release ?
[04:19] <Jordan_U> [x]: "lsb_release" (not "lsb release") is a command which prints information about the OS.
[04:19] <[x]> [x@shell ~]$ lsb_release -r
[04:19] <[x]> -bash: lsb_release: command not found
[04:19] <[x]>  Jordan_U
[04:20] <Jordan_U> [x]: What distribution is being used on the remote machine?
[04:20] <[x]> am using shell from cjb.net
[04:21] <[x]> in locall sys lsp_release Release:	10.04
[04:22] <Jordan_U> [x]: cjb.net provides access to FreeBSD servers. Try asking in ##FreeBSD.
[04:23] <[x]> ok Jordan_U
[04:23] <[x]> brb
[04:24] <[x]> .net is available for linux also :O
[04:24] <[x]> i thot it was ms product
[04:25] <[x]> how to install .NET Development Framework
[04:26] <Jordan_U> [x]: You already have Mono, the .NET implementation for GNU/Linux, installed on your Ubuntu machine. You do *not* however have it installed on the FreeBSD server you're trying to use. We can't help you with FreeBSD here.
[04:27] <Grundoko> How can I get my Motorola Atrix to show up in Rhythmbox or Banshee using MTP?
[04:27] <[x]> ok Jordan_U
[04:27] <[x]> ubuntu dased free ssh ? Jordan_U
[04:28] <Jordan_U> [x]: Please use complete, properly spelled and punctuated, English sentences. I have no idea what you just asked.
[04:30] <[x]> ubuntu based ssh like cjb.net is available ? Jordan_U
[04:30] <[x]> cjb.net is freebsd ok
[04:30] <Respite212> hmm anyone know how many logical volumes I need in a logical group?
[04:30] <Jordan_U> [x]: I don't know. I would expect so, but I have never looked for any myself.
[04:31] <shihan> hi all, i got a bridge setup in ubuntu 12.04 64bit, the second bridge has network cards unplugged and on reboot it says "Waiting for br1 to get ready (MAXWAIT is 32 seconds)." which halts the boot process (for well more then 32 seconds)... anyway of telling it not to wait?
[04:31] <[x]> ok
[04:32] <[x]> Jordan_U: is it possible to link bcm4313 to vmware ? mean to bridge
[04:33] <paulus68> I have a strange network behaviour I can ssh from my laptop(ip 192.168.1.x towards my server 192.168.178.x however I am not able to connect from my server towards my laptop it says no route to host, externally(through dns account) I am able to connect to my laptop internally it gives me the error no route to host how to solve this?
[04:33] <[x]> battery low
[04:33] <linocisco> hi all
[04:34] <linocisco> is there any shipment of goods management software which can also genearate reports of shipments by category like air, sea, car or by months or date?
[04:34] <Jordan_U> Respite212: I'm familiar with the term "Volume Group" but not "Logical Group". Did you mean "Volume Group"?
[04:35] <linocisco> I am using glpi software to administer IT stock, but I dont know how to associate shipment report together with that
[04:35] <Respite212> Jordan_U yeah... how many logical volumes I need in a volume group?
[04:36] <Jordan_U> Respite212: You can create as many as you want. The minimum that would be at all useful is of course 1, but the way you asked the question makes me think that you might be confused about what Logical Volumes and Volume Groups are.
[04:37] <Respite212> Jordan_U: Im brushing up on LVM... actually started on a little hard drive lvm'ing that I haven't managed to complete yet. So still reading up on the "how to's
[04:38] <Respite212> overclucker helped me with LVM my sda4 drive so my /home is moved into it. now I am trying to lvm my sdb1 partition so it sticks with my sda4 /home.
[04:38] <Jordan_U> Respite212: https://access.redhat.com/knowledge/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5/html/Logical_Volume_Manager_Administration/LVM_definition.html appears to be a good quick explanation of how Physical Volumes, Volume Groups, and Logical Volumes fit together.
[04:38] <Flannel> Respite212: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-lvm/  The commands might be obsolte/irrelevant, but the descriptions and images are great.
[04:40] <Respite212> yeah.. here's what I done so far... 1.) sudo pvcreate /dev/sdb1  2.) sudo vgcreate data /dev/sdb1
[04:41] <faoiseamh> have a new 12.04 server setup that has crashed a few times with nothing in syslog / kern.log or anything at all really - how do I go about debugging this?
[04:42] <Respite212> now I am thinking if I should sudo lvcreate data or is it sudo lvcreate --name share data
[04:42] <Codenomics> couple questions... how would I go about auto mounting a drive on boot?
[04:43] <Respite212> Codenomics: /etc/fstab
[04:43] <Codenomics> nevermind
[04:43] <Codenomics> Respite212: thanks, I found it right as you answered
[04:43] <Codenomics> was googline at the same time
[04:43] <Codenomics> how about making an app autostart?
[04:45] <Respite212> Jordan_U: Do I even need a logical volume if I plan on using the entire drive to extend my sda4?
[04:46] <LedHed> I'm trying to mound a Multipath device (/dev/mapper/mpath0-part1) at boot (added it to my fstab) but the mount fails. Is there a way to make sure the device mapper service runs before fstab?
[04:49] <Respite212> LedHed: Im new to linux, but if you think about it logically, there has to be a reason the mount fails, are there any incompatibility issues with your device mapper?
[04:49] <Respite212> LedHed: This includes all your other mounts in fstab.
[04:50] <LedHed> Respite212, other mounts work fine. I think its because the DM-multipath runs and creates the device maps after fstab is processed
[04:50] <syntaxx> anyone here know how can i replace the splash screen on ubuntu 12.04? i mean the encrypted one
[04:51] <farrioth> !seen DeucesWildCatch2
[04:52] <LedHed> syntaxx, I did this a few years ago. maybe its still relevant
[04:52] <LedHed> http://wiki.ledhed.net/index.php/Change_Plymouth_Theme
[04:52] <syntaxx> LedHed, does it include the encryption?
[04:52] <LedHed> no clue
[04:53] <syntaxx> LedHed, i am thinkin to change the encryption part on the laptop
[04:53] <LedHed> I created a custom theme for a company a few years ago as part of an LTSP deployment
[04:53] <Respite212> LedHed: you might want to ask again then, because I am not 100% sure how fstab is processed or if it is even possible to get multipaths to run before fstab.
[04:53] <syntaxx> LedHed, because the encryption part of the ubuntu 12.04 is just a plain text
[04:55] <Respite212> Anyone know if I even need a logical volume if I plan on using the entire drive to extend my sda4?
[04:55] <LedHed> syntaxx, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=change+boot+splash+screen+ubuntu+12.04
[04:57] <syntaxx> LedHed, thanks for it. I already changed the boot splash screen on the plain ubuntu install. But trying the encrypted one I dont seem to find any help from google or maybe i dont know what it is called
[04:57] <LedHed> syntaxx, what do you mean the "encrypted one"
[04:58] <syntaxx> LedHed, when you install ubuntu and you use full encryption it will ask you a passphrase when it boots up. that what i am looking for
[04:58] <LedHed> oh
[04:58] <LedHed> no clue
[04:58] <syntaxx> LedHed, i want to change that to something eyecandy
[04:59] <LedHed> I see. Ya I wouldn't even know where to start
[05:00] <syntaxx> LedHed, I saw a post on ubuntuforums but i dont think someone answered correctly http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11907953&postcount=1
[05:00] <LedHed> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/539723
[05:01] <LedHed> this bug probably references what you're looking for
[05:02] <paulus68> is there a way that I can let my server look at different gateway before using the standard gateway to connect to the internet?
[05:02] <syntaxx> LedHed, probably that one but its 2010 bug somehow its fixed i think
[05:03] <LedHed> syntaxx, the bug is probably fixed, but the there might be referenced to the theme. which might lead you to what you;re looking for.  (breadcrumbs)
[05:08] <paulus68> fileserver@fileserver:~$ nmap -Pn -sV 192.168.1.145
[05:08] <paulus68> Starting Nmap 5.21 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2012-10-09 07:07 CEST
[05:08] <paulus68> Nmap scan report for 192.168.1.145
[05:08] <paulus68> Host is up (0.063s latency).
[05:08] <paulus68> All 1000 scanned ports on 192.168.1.145 are filtered
[05:08] <FloodBot1> paulus68: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:08] <paulus68> Service detection performed. Please report any incorrect results at http://nmap.org/submit/ .
[05:09] <paulus68> oops sorry
[05:10] <sin_tax> what is the easiest FTP server to install on a headless ubuntu server?
[05:10] <Respite212> syntaxx: Your passphrase is your the code you use when you login, or are you specifically want to lookup the encryption key?
[05:13] <syntaxx> Respite212, i know.. i want to change the background of that passphrase..
[05:13] <syntaxx> Respite212, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11907953&postcount=1
[05:17] <Respite212> Syntaxx: They use different shells and you'll be able to change it, but it's complicated.
[05:17] <rsser> is there any authentification system based on voice?is there any authentication system based on voice?
[05:17] <rsser> is there any authentication system based on voice?*
[05:17] <syntaxx> Respite212, do you know about that?
[05:19] <Respite212> syntaxx: you mean how to swap out the encrypted shell with another encrypted shell? No, the skills required is beyond me.
[05:20] <syntaxx> Respite212, no i mean where to look at atleast? apparently my skill is a little above average. I just don't know what it is called though
[05:21] <ibraheem> Hi guys !! how are you doing ?
[05:22] <BPower> exit
[05:22] <ibraheem> guys i am facing a problem installing eclipse in my ubuntu 12.04 can someone help please ?
[05:22] <blackshirt> eclipse available on repository
[05:25] <ibraheem> you mean I can't use the ppa to install eclipse ?
[05:25] <Respite212> syntaxx: http://ask.unixmen.com/question/36/how-to-change-login-screen-in-ubuntu-1204
[05:25] <Respite212> syntaxx: You'll still be using ubuntu encryption package tho.
[05:25] <blackshirt> ibraheem, why do you want use ppa ?
[05:27] <farrioth> Is there a way to change the default input method engine in gnome-terminal?
[05:28] <ibraheem> I am a new user for ubuntu. I do not know really why blackshirt.
[05:29] <Respite212> I am trying to attach my sdb1 partition to my sda4 partition with LVM.... so far I've pvcreated /dev/sdb1 , anyone know how I should proceed next?
[05:29] <Respite212> Ibraheem: why don't you just sudo apt-get install eclipse?
[05:30] <Respite212> ibraheem: Or even better, go to software center search and install it
 hey dude
 thats what i did to install eclipse tell me if it is right
 sudo -get apt install eclipse-platform
 and then sudo -get apt install eclipse-jdk
 everything was great but when i opened eclipse I got an error message saying
 An error has occurred. See the log file
[05:33] <FloodBot1> ibraheem: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:35] <ibraheem> thats what i did to install eclipse tell me if it is right
[05:35] <ibraheem> sudo -get apt install eclipse-platform
[05:35] <ibraheem> and then sudo -get apt install eclipse-jdk
[05:35] <ibraheem> everything was great but when i opened eclipse I got an error message saying
[05:36] <ibraheem> An error has occurred. See the log file
[05:36] <ibraheem> /home/ibraheem/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.7.0_155965261/configuration/1349759528310.log.
[05:38] <farrioth> ibraheem: you neet apt-get not -get apt.
[05:38] <farrioth> ibraheem: But you seem to at least have it installed if it can give you an error message.
[05:38] <ibraheem> yes thats what i did
[05:39] <ibraheem> yeah
[05:39] <LedHed> well mounting by UUID didnt help.  all three devices /dev/sdb, /dev/scd, and /dev/mapper/mpath0-part1 all have the same UUID
[05:39] <ibraheem> it was just a typo
[05:40] <somsip> ibraheem: so what does the lof tell you?
[05:40] <somsip> *log
[05:40] <kunji> Hey everyone, I was just wondering what the best way to make a linux Access Point with Ubuntu, I've started down the route of using hostadp with dnsmasq, and using a masquerade in iptables, is this pretty much the only way to go, or is there something else I should check out?
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> is there a package to see whats wrong with a network?
[05:40] <farrioth> lotuspsychje: ping?
[05:40] <ibraheem> how can I access the log ?
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> farrioth:i mean like wrong cables and such
[05:41] <ibraheem> somsip: how can I access the log ?
[05:41] <farrioth> ibraheem: It's just a regular file, you can view it with less or something.
[05:41] <kunji> lotuspsychje: there is not a full app, but you can use ping, ethtool, iperf, iwconfig, iw, and many others, what exactly do you want to check?
[05:41] <somsip> ibraheem: you just posted the path
[05:41] <farrioth> lotuspsychje: ifconfig may also help
[05:42] <kunji> lotuspsychje: for cables, iperf should work well, it's a speed test really, but if you're getting the speeds the cable is rated for, then it's highly unlikely that the cable would be bad
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> kunji: a network with modem--powerline adapter--linksys wifi got problems connecting to ssh
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> kunji:we cant find out whats wrong
[05:43] <ibraheem> somsip: when i tried to access it, it opens a website for me ?!!
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> kunji:internel nmap sV portscan shows ports filtered
[05:43] <somsip> ibraheem: open it with an editor
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> kunji:external nmap scan shows ports open
[05:43] <ibraheem> somsip: ok !
[05:43] <kunji> lotuspsychje: my initial guess would be noise on the power lines, have you tried running a cable over instead and see if that works, at least then you can narrow down where to look.
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> kunji:apowerline can block ssh u think?
[05:45] <kunji> lotuspsychje: not the line itself, I thought you mean connectivity issues over ssh (was thinking noisy line), but if you mean it's just straight up not working, well, the adapters to the powerlines could possibly block ssh
[05:46] <kunji> lotuspsychje: is everything but ssh working (by and large)?
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> kunji:well windows laptop works on ssh
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> kunji:ubuntu laptop not
[05:48] <kunji> lotuspsychje: hmm, did you turn on the firewall in Ubuntu at some point?  ufw and/or iptables?  What does "iptables-save" output (without quotes of course).
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> kunji:no ubuntu firewalls, but network runs over 1 cable from modem/router
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> kunji:not switched
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> kunji:maybe internel router firewall dont like each other?
[05:50] <kunji> Can you kind of diagram the route the data is taking?  i.e. laptop -> linux kernel forwarding box -> router -> modem and how it is different between the windows and linux laptops
[05:50] <ibraheem> somsip: sudo apt-get install mailutils
[05:50] <ibraheem> somsip: thats what i got
[05:51] <somsip> ibraheem: what has that got to do with a log output?
[05:51] <kunji> lotuspsychje: I don't think I have a grasp of just what your setup is exactly yet
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> kunji: adsl2[05:55] <kunji> lotuspsychje: hmm, so your ssh never actually goes over the powerline adapter anyway, and there is basically no difference between the setups of the laptops, do I have this correct?
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> kunji:other laptops(windows) can connect to ssh server correclty
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> kunji:ubuntu server to ubuntu laptop not, same network
[05:57] <kunji> Ah, so from outside of this you mean
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> kunji:no internal
[05:58] <kunji> lotuspsychje: Huh, if it's internal, then how is the ubuntu server to ubuntu laptop not on the same network?
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> kunji:yes its on same network mate
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> kunji:i have to go mate tnx for help
[06:03] <Guest63525> hi there
[06:03] <gavinwu> You may execute command "sudo apt-get install openssh-server"
[06:04] <farrioth> Can anyone recommend a font editor?  All I really need to do is move characters around within a unicode font.
[06:04] <chinneseproduct> anyone with knowledge of LAMP installation without  using tasksel
[06:04] <Guest63525> is unity breaks my system if decide to install it alongside with kde ?
[06:05] <visored> is there a way to restart the left side launcher without restarting the whole OS? it's messed up and not showing any icons currently
[06:06] <farrioth> visored: You could log out and back in.
[06:06] <visored> that would close my programs though right?
[06:06] <redwarriors25_> how to edit file and save in sudo vi /etc/hosts
[06:06] <farrioth> visored: Yes.
[06:07] <farrioth> redwarriors25_: If you're not used to vi you could use nano instead.
[06:07] <somsip> redwarriors25_: ifyou don't know how to use vi, use nano
[06:07] <visored> yea that really defeats the purpose
[06:07] <visored> seems like there should be a process or something to kill to do this
[06:07] <farrioth> visored: There should be a way, but I don't know how since I don't use unity.
[06:08] <redwarriors25_> thanbks
[06:08] <somsip> visored: unity --reset possibly?
[06:08] <farrioth> visored: obxprop should tell you the process name, but if it's unity itself killing it will probably log you out.
[06:12] <sin_tax> can someone help with an SFTP problem? I created a new user group and user, set that to be ChrootDirectory /data00/
[06:12] <sin_tax>  which has some symlinks to other folders.  I want the user to have read only access to that but when I connect as that user via SFTP I can see my whole folder structure but not go into any folders
[06:13] <OnlyMAJ> i'm looking for a webmail with lgpl or bsd license.can anyone help me ???
[06:13] <farrioth> sin_tax: I'm not familiar with SFTP, but you'll probably need to set permissions on the subfolders.
[06:14] <OnlyMAJ> i'm looking for a webmail with lgpl or bsd license.can anyone help me ???
[06:14] <sin_tax> farrioth, right now I can't even access the data00 directory with that user, it is drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Oct  9 01:59 data00
[06:14] <timfrost> sin_tax: If the symlinks on the server point outside the chroot, then you won't have access because the chroot blocks ALL access except within the chroot directory tree
[06:14] <OnlyMAJ> i'm looking for a webmail with lgpl or bsd license.can anyone help me ???
[06:15] <sin_tax> timfrost, ah, very good to know, thanks.
[06:15] <OnlyMAJ> i'm looking for a webmail with lgpl or bsd license.can anyone help me ???
[06:15] <Respite212> OnlyMAJ: If no one answers you, means they/we probably can't or don't know.
[06:15] <OnlyMAJ> Respite212: ok. sorry !
[06:15] <timfrost> !patience | OnlyMAJ
[06:18] <timfrost> sin_tax: if you can put the files/directories you want that user to access inside the /data00/ directory hierarchy, and linking from the original locations to the location under /data00, that may solve the problem
[06:19] <Respite212> Anyone know how to add a hard drive partition to a logical volume manager?
[06:20] <timfrost> !lvm | Respite212
[06:21] <Respite212> timfrost: I've been reading it, but I am currently confused.
[06:22] <trijntje> join #gcr
[06:23] <timfrost> Respite212: Is this a new setup, a replacement disk, or adding a new disk to an existing LVM?  Procedures are different for the 3 cases
[06:24] <vsMS12> I'm creating a .deb that has to install a nm-system connection to /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ The file must have a mode of 0166 but when I install the package the fileperms are rw r r I already use dh_fixperms in debian/rules but this does not help. Can someone help pls?
[06:24] <timfrost> trijntje: try '/j #gcr' - the '/'is the operator marker
[06:24] <Respite212> timfrost: the last one, I am trying to figure out if I should just vgextend label /dev/sdb1 to it or do I need to pvcreate /dev/sdb1 then vg create label /dev/sdb1 and then lvcreate /dev/sdb1 etc...etc.
[06:25] <Respite212> timfrost: I already have a lvm setup on my /dev/sda4 partition which contains my /home, now I want to add /dev/sdb1 to it.
[06:25] <trijntje> timfrost: thanks
[06:25] <OnlyMAJ> i'm runnig ubuntu 12.04 with loptop dell 5110.when i start irefox occurring with this "The Bookmark and ..." . i search and found out that i should chande it sqlite db like the instruction. but after changing,firefox did't have any change!! i have this problem for the software center too.soloution ?
[06:27] <vivek-tomar__> hi to all
[06:28] <Romance> OnlyMAJ: what is that
[06:29] <OnlyMAJ> Romance: which one ??
[06:29] <michalchik> I have Ubuntu 12.04 an I keeps auto logging out everyu few minutes.
[06:29] <OnlyMAJ> Romance: firefox or software center ???
[06:29] <michalchik> Does anyone know a fix to the autologging out problem?
[06:29] <Romance> michalchik: do you install something 'bad' ?
[06:29] <michalchik> Wine?
[06:30] <vivek-tomar__> to_all : do we really need an additional software like TUXBOOT or UNETBOOTIN for creating boot-able live CDs or USBs of software like CloneZilla or GPARTED or any other live OSes those can be boot from USBs too.
[06:30] <vivek-tomar__> do we really need an additional software like TUXBOOT or UNETBOOTIN for creating boot-able live CDs or USBs of software like CloneZilla or GPARTED or any other live OSes those can be boot from USBs too.
[06:30] <vivek-tomar__> can any one help me plz
[06:30] <Romance> OnlyMAJ: that problem, what is that. try uninstall firefox and install it back. but i suggest using google chromium lol
[06:31] <OnlyMAJ> OnlyMAJ: i'm forced to use that !  ;-)
[06:31] <OnlyMAJ> Romance:
[06:31] <michalchik> How do you quick replay toa person on xchat?
[06:31] <Romance> michalchik: wine? how does it taste? wine doesnt do that 'crontab' thing, well maybe, but auto logging out?
[06:32] <michalchik> reply?
[06:32] <vivek-tomar__> do we really need an additional software like TUXBOOT or UNETBOOTIN for creating boot-able live CDs or USBs of software like CloneZilla or GPARTED or any other live OSes those can be boot from USBs too.
[06:32] <vivek-tomar__> can any one help me plz
[06:32] <OnlyMAJ> Romance: what about software center ???
[06:32] <michalchik> Romance: are you trying to confuse me or flirt with me?
[06:34] <vivek-tomar__> do we really need an additional software like TUXBOOT or UNETBOOTIN for creating boot-able live CDs or USBs of software like CloneZilla or GPARTED or any other live OSes those can be boot from USBs too.
[06:34] <vivek-tomar__> can any one help me plz
[06:34] <LorSamPau_w> vivek-tomar__, we do need it
[06:34] <somsip> vivek-tomar__: I've downloaded and used a bootable gparted ISO from somewhere before. May have been as part of a recovery disk though
[06:35] <michalchik> Does anyone here know aboutteh auto logging out problem?
[06:35] <michalchik> I am not the ponly one to report it.
[06:35] <vivek-tomar__> LorSamPau_w:but why can you justify your ans plz
[06:36] <somsip> michalchik: more detail may help. What happens? Are there any log entries?
[06:36] <vivek-tomar__> somsip: my question is to create bootable usb do we need an addition software why don't just dd command do the job
[06:36] <timfrost>  Respite212: the key program is vgextend. You need to create a new LVM PV with pvcreate, then add that to the LV
[06:36] <somsip> vivek-tomar__: ok - I'll leave it with you then
[06:38] <michalchik> Somsip, it just happened. Where do i find the log?
[06:38] <LorSamPau_w> vivek-tomar__, for some software/os we don't need it, for some we do... for example you can just extract win7/8 iso into usb and check the "bootable" box... and there you go, bootable usb is ready
[06:39] <somsip> michalchik: dmesg for starters, but others in /var/log may help. syslog, auth.log, maybe boot.log. Sometimes just need to look at a few for weird stuff. But you say you are not the only one. Can you point to other reports of this?
[06:40] <Respite212> tomfrost: Thanks, once I vgextend label /dev/sdb1, do I need to /etc/fstab? or is it already added in?
[06:42] <iman> what is 'linux easter eggs'?
[06:42] <somsip> iman: hidden stuff that do amusing things usually
[06:43] <timfrost> Respite212: you don't need to touch /etc/fstab, because it already has the file system(s) in it. The VG isn't listed, because it is not a file system itself - it contains file systems
[06:43] <iman> somsip: would you please give me some example
[06:43] <iman> somsip: something like 'aptitute moo' ?
[06:43] <michalchik> somsip: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1904791&page=3
[06:44] <somsip> iman: exactly http://linuxaria.com/article/10-easter-eggs-in-linux?lang=en
[06:44] <Respite212> timfrost: So once I vgextend  -> /dev/sdb1 to my "vol" lvm, Im done?
[06:44] <somsip> michalchik: is your system up to date?
[06:45] <somsip> michalchik: you may be out of luck. Looks like it's current https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/980519
[06:46] <michalchik> i beleive so
[06:46] <Respite212> timfrost: or do I need to lvextend it?
[06:47] <Respite212> timfrost: and resize2fs it?
[06:47] <timfrost> Respite212: You need to use lvextend to resize the partition, then resize2fs (or equi9valent if it isn't an EXT2 derivative) to grow the file system
[06:48] <gordonjcp> heh
[06:48] <michalchik> somsip: hpow do i add my name to the list of users bedevilled by this?
[06:48] <gordonjcp> lvextend always seems weird and terrifying
[06:48] <gordonjcp> and yet it works so well ;-)
[06:48] <somsip> michalchik: join launchpad and add a comment I guess
[06:49] <michalchik> SOMSIP: Ok I'lltry that. Thanks.
[06:49] <timfrost> michalchik: subscribe to the launchpad bug, as 'affected' by the bug
[06:50] <StefanM> how do you do this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades#Upgrade%20from%209.10%20to%2010.04%20LTS if the repos for karmic are gone? and I don't need a lecture on LTS, this was not my setup, I'm just trying to save it.
[06:50] <Ben64> !eol | StefanM
[06:50] <StefanM> just found out about old-releases.ubuntu
[06:51] <Respite212> let me double check if this is right so I don't screw up my /home, lvextend -L+111.89G /dev/vol/home  <--- is this right?
[06:52] <troll> Buenas!!
[06:55] <timfrost> Respite212: Is /dev/vol/home the correct device for the LVM?  I suggest adding '--test' to validate the operation,
[06:57] <Respite212> timfrost: I should be because I did sudo lvdisplay and that's where it says it is under LV name
[06:57] <sm_> i need help about an calendar alggoritm
[06:57] <timfrost> Respite212: in that case the command should be correct
[06:58] <timfrost> sm_: what are you trying to do?
[06:58] <sm_> is ther e any programmer especillay web programmer here?
[06:58] <sm_> help me plz
[06:58] <giocos> Hello
[06:58] <sm_> \why everybody here is so quet?
[06:59] <sm_> sorry i mean quiet
[06:59] <giocos> How i can switch pts/1 to pts/2?
[07:00] <gordonjcp> sm_: because it's 8am and most people are only just getting to work
[07:00] <Respite212> tomfrost: then I just sudo resize2fs /dev/vol/home right?
[07:00] <gordonjcp> !help | sm_
[07:00] <gordonjcp> giocos: What exactly are you trying to do?
[07:00] <timfrost> giocos: what do you mean?  pts/1 or pts/2 is the name of the terminal for a specific remote login session
[07:01] <timfrost> Respite212: correct.  Good luck
[07:01] <giocos> i try to update my ubuntu but when system try to configure ( /usr/bin/dpkg --status-fd 17 --configure) and ask me many question
[07:01] <timfrost> gordonjcp: depends on which time zone - it is 8PM here in New Zealand
[07:02] <giocos> i lost connection... so now i want take again this session for answer at this question
[07:02] <Respite212> timfrost: Awesome, that worked!
[07:02] <timfrost> Respite212: glad to hear
[07:02] <gordonjcp> !update | giocos
[07:03] <gordonjcp> giocos: for the most part, "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ought to work just fine
[07:04] <starbuck33> hey, is it just me or does the terminal console get laggy sometimes
[07:04] <giocos> no apt-get not work because is locked by this process ( pts/1    Ss+  Oct08   0:00 /usr/bin/dpkg --status-fd 17 --configure xxx xxx xxx xxx)
[07:05] <timfrost> giocos: you won't be able to, because there is no way to re-attach to a session unless you are using screen or a similar tool.
[07:05] <giocos> so i have to kill this process... is the only way?
[07:05] <Respite212> Thanks everyone for the help!
[07:05] <blackshirt> giocos: yes, you can kill it
[07:06] <farrioth> starbuck33: Yes, if there's lots of output.  Last time I used it seriously, which was a while ago, at least.
[07:06] <blackshirt> giocos: thats why your apt-get not working
[07:06] <giocos> but i'm worry because this process ask me if i want change some file of cofiguration of my webserver... if i kill how i can answer?
[07:08] <starbuck33> farrioth: yeah the thing is, when it got laggy even after the work is done the console is a bit slow in response, even a simple ls or cd takes a blink of an eye longer than usual
[07:08] <starbuck33> or even longer
[07:08] <blackshirt> giocos, dpkg still work on the background ... but i don't what the process is
[07:08] <Romance> what
[07:09] <giocos> dpkg wait my input
[07:10] <timfrost> giocos: 'sudo apt-get -f install' should fix things ater you kill that process
[07:10] <giocos> ok i will try
[07:10] <giocos> thank you
[07:10] <farrioth> starbuck33: That's probably due to disk access more than the console itself.
[07:12] <giocos> ok everythink is ok. i just do sudo dpkg --configure -a" after i kill the process
[07:12] <giocos> thank you to everybody
[07:12] <timfrost> giocos: blackshirt dpkg is the program that actually administers the package database and configurations (behind apt-get , aptitude, synaptic, etc)
[07:20] <greek> Hi guys. I'm on 12.04 desktop. Trying to update google chrome from update manager. I keep getting error: Failed to fetch http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/pool/main/g/google-chrome-stable/google-chrome-stable_22.0.1229.79-r158531_i386.deb 404  Not Found [IP: 173.194.34.168 80]
[07:21] <kel39> greek: you answered your own question.
[07:21] <kel39> well, your own statement... you never did ask a question.
[07:21] <greek> kel39, well I know what the error means, but I'm not sure how to fix it
[07:23] <Romance> why dont you download it from the web
[07:24] <kel39> yup...
[07:24] <kel39> http://google.com/chrome
[07:24] <timfrost> greek: it seems that Google have done something to the download site - I get a 404 or else a redirect to https://www.google.com/intl/en_uk/chrome/browser/, which means that the apt repository structure has been removed
[07:25] <Romance> i thought it has auto update, like firefox lol. damn firefox.
[07:25] <kel39> it does
[07:25] <greek> I thought so too. Ok so I can just download from the URI kel39 provided and just double-click install?
[07:26] <kel39> er yeah
[07:26] <kel39> or just dpkg -i *.deb
[07:26] <greek> Ok. Thanks fellas
[07:29] <ibraheem> guys I am stoke with this problem, I spent around 5 hours trying to get started programming and ubuntu is really hard to deal with
[07:29] <ibraheem> I installed eclipse and when i start the program it shows me this message :(
[07:30] <ibraheem> /home/ibraheem/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.7.0_155965261/configuration/1349759528310.log.
[07:30] <timfrost> !paste | ibraheem
[07:32] <somsip> ibraheem: I asked you a long while ago - what does the log say?
[07:33] <BlueWolf> How can I get my ubuntu 12.04 interface to look like ubuntu 10.04?
[07:33] <somsip> !nounity | BlueWolf
[07:33] <smw> !classic | BlueWolf
[07:34] <ibraheem> http://imagebin.org/231353
[07:35] <BlueWolf> smw: It's not the same in 12.04 there is no "Session box at the bottom of the screen"?
[07:35] <smw> BlueWolf, nm, ignore that
[07:35] <smw> BlueWolf, yeah, that will show up if you install gnome-panel
[07:35] <somsip> ibraheem: this does not tell us what the log says. Pastebin the contents of the log
[07:35] <smw> BlueWolf, nounity was the correct trigger :-)
[07:36] <ibraheem> somsip: how can i get it pastbin the contents of the log?
[07:36] <somsip> !pastebin | ibraheem
[07:36] <BlueWolf> smw: Wait, Um now I lost :-S
[07:37] <somsip> ibraheem: my mistake
[07:37] <somsip> !pastebinit | ibraheem
[07:37] <smw> !nounity > BlueWolf
[07:37] <smw> BlueWolf, follow ubottu's instructions :-)
[07:38] <smw> BlueWolf, install gnome-panel and then select the gnome classic session on login
[07:39] <ibraheem> !pastebinit
[07:40] <somsip> ibraheem: so you install pastebinit with apt-get install pastebinit, then you navigate to the log file and cat 1349759528310.log | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com (subject to typos)
[07:40] <BlueWolf> smw: Ok so as simple as that, I install "gnome-panel" and "gnome-shell" through the Software Center?
[07:40] <BlueWolf> :D
[07:40] <smw> BlueWolf, yes
[07:41] <BlueWolf> smw: Ok thank you for the help ;-)
[07:41] <ibraheem> somsip: ok ! let me try that !
[07:42] <BlueWolf> smw: What is the "gnome-tweak-tool", what does it entail?
[07:43] <timfrost> somsip: ibraheem: you don't need cat if you use shell redirection :" pastebinit < /home/ibraheem/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.7.0_155965251/configuration/1249767914172.log" - again subject to typos
[07:43] <crizis> Blue1, "Advanced settings" in gnome
[07:43] <somsip> timfrost: ah ok. Thanks for that :)
[07:43] <crizis> ** BlueWolf
[07:44] <BlueWolf> crizis: Ok thnaks ;-)
[07:44] <timfrost> somsip: ibraheem: tab completion will help as well by typing enough of a path element to be unique then using the TAB key
[07:45] <opalepatrick> is there a bug report somewhere re Firefox always trying to be on top? If I minimise and dont get to the next app fast enough it re-focusses to the top (on 12.04 & 12.10 beta2)
[07:45] <opalepatrick> Dead irritating
[07:45] <VLanX> hey, how can i emulate the double click on a file's name to rename it as in windows? Please don't tell me it's patented otherwise i kill somebody
[07:46] <talpur> can you help me find the reason of the following error "invalid debug flag 'Decode--trace-start=50000'"
[07:47] <opalepatrick> VLanX, F2 on the keyboard should work?
[07:48] <talpur> hi L3top:...when we use flag in the commas
[07:48] <VLanX> opalepatrick: ok but not the easy double click thing?
[07:49] <L3top> I do not understand the question talpur
[07:49] <talpur> when we use "flags" word within the command what that mean
[07:50] <talpur> I was writting one command it gives the error "invalid debug flag 'Decode--trace-start=50000'"
[07:51] <talpur> L3top: did u understand my question
[07:55] <vivid> so, ubuntu plans to backport 12.10 to 12.04.2?
[07:55] <timfrost> talpur:I suspect that the error is a missing comma between 'Decode' and '--trace-start=50000', but the question is more appropriate in #gcc
[07:56] <talpur> L3top: here is the full command which I have written. ./build/ARM/gem5.opt --debug-flag=Decode--trace-start=50000 --trace-file=my_trace.out config/example/se.py c tests/test-progs/hello/bin/arm/linux/hello
[07:57] <[x]> pkg_add -r mono
[07:58] <timfrost> talpur: as I just indicated, you are missing a comma
[07:59] <ibraheem> somsip: do i have to do the pastebin for every single file, they are too many lool
[07:59] <L3top> talpur: 1 I am very busy doing my own dev work, I am not sure why you grabbed me. 2 this does not look at all like an ubuntu support question.
[07:59] <ibraheem> somsip: the file number keep changing
[08:00] <L3top> In fact as I am just going to reboot this server 800 times I will just drop out of chan. l8r.
[08:01] <timfrost> ibraheem: one example file should be enough.  The file numbers depend on date, time and the process number for eclipse
[08:01] <Richard_Cavell> Hi everyone.  There's a guy with a computer running 12.04 32-bit edition and I want to put avrdude on a USB stick, take it to his computer and install it.  Where do I find the right package so that I can download it and put it on a USB stick?
[08:02] <takinya> hello all; I have been having this issue pop up afew times. My ubuntu 12.04 freezes from time to time and I have to manually restart the machine, any ideas why? happens even when I have one program running like firefox
[08:02] <linux_> fuck
[08:03] <IdleOne> linux_: Please don't swear in here
[08:04] <livecduser> i've a live cd installed in my usb drive, during installation i've not set ubuntu to use the extra space in pen drive . is there any way to do it now without reinstalling the live os?
[08:04] <somsip> ibraheem: pastebin one log file
[08:05] <timfrost> [x]: what are you trying to do?
[08:06] <[x]> timfrost: trying to run pako bot @ cjb.net shell
[08:06] <[x]> can u help timfrost ?
[08:08] <ibraheem> somsip: what does subject to typos mean?
[08:09] <ejv> Richard_Cavell: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/avrdude
[08:09] <timfrost> [x]: sorry, I can't help there.  I just spotted the pkg_add command and wondered what was happeniong
[08:09] <somsip> ibraheem: it means I don't always type perfectly and you need to make sure you do
[08:10] <ejv> Richard_Cavell: on that page you'll see two architectures listed, i386 and amd64, which will direct you to a list of mirrors where you can download the .deb file. use dpkg -i to install.
[08:10] <[x]> ok timfrost any free shell account link ?
[08:11] <timfrost> [x]:no.
[08:12] <[x]> ok timfrost
[08:13] <talpur> exit
[08:17] <narcos> Hi there. I have Ubuntu 12.04. When trying to install any package via apt-get I receive the error "Setting up iptables-persistent (0.5.3ubuntu2)... dpkg: error processing iptables-persistent (--configure):subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 ....... E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[08:17] <narcos> Any ideas what's up with this? Should I remove iptables-persistent?
[08:17] <g105b> You should correctly configure iptables
[08:18] <Kartagis> is there a more reliable version of file(1) ? it says 32kbps for a file although nautilus says 118 kbps for the same file
[08:18] <SpecialEmily> How on earth do I get something like my system monitor into the top bar? I've seen it done but it eludes me how its done! D:
[08:18] <g105b> SpecialEmily: are you using Unity?
[08:18] <narcos> g105b: I have it configured though, and working
[08:19] <narcos> (Error output http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ZnXuH96W)
[08:19] <SpecialEmily> g105b: yes
[08:19] <g105b> SpecialEmily: the usual Gnome indicators you are referring to need to be built specially for Unity
[08:20] <narcos> g105b: Hmm, well, I did 'apt-get remove iptables-persistent' and all seems well now.
[08:20] <Newb101> Hi folks, How do I authenticate my username on the irc?
[08:20] <SpecialEmily> g105b: any suggestions?
[08:21] <g105b> SpecialEmily: You can install the classic Gnome menu along side Unity
[08:21] <g105b> http://www.howtogeek.com/105997/how-to-install-the-classic-gnome-menu-in-unity-in-ubuntu-11.10/
[08:21] <Newb101> anyone?
[08:21] <somsip> !register | Newb101
[08:22] <vivid> SpecialEmily, this may be what youre looking for http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/indicator-sysmonitor-simple-system-stats-app-for-ubuntu
[08:22] <vivid> SpecialEmily, theres also others, search for 'indicator'
[08:24] <ibraheem> somsip: timfrost: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268889/
[08:25] <somsip> ibraheem: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10165693/ubuntu-eclipse-cannot-load-swt-libraries-not-opening
[08:26] <[x]> This is a Moose based Perl Module. ?
[08:27] <woozly> guys, how to disable Grub2 menu? I use virtual server, and some time, when it wrong or trouble with power.. it can't bootup automatically
[08:27] <woozly> because it freeze on Grub menu, for choosing
[08:28] <ibraheem> Thank you so much somsip, I really appreciate your help, you and timfrost. Thanks again !!
[08:28] <somsip> ibraheem: did it work?
[08:29] <[x]> is it possible to run .exe in linux ?
[08:29] <somsip> !wine | [x]
[08:30] <larsemil> (wc
[08:30] <[x]> somsip: how to install wine in ssh shell ?
[08:31] <somsip> [x]: sudo apt-get install wine, I guess
[08:31] <[x]> wine is not a valid package.
[08:32] <somsip> [x]: are you running server?
[08:32] <[x]> no
[08:33] <somsip> [x]: what release?
[08:33] <[x]> :S
[08:33] <[x]> ssh shell
[08:33] <[x]> cjb.net
[08:34] <somsip> [x]: I asked what release of ubuntu you're running
[08:34] <woozly> because it freeze on Grub menu, for choosing
[08:34] <woozly> guys, how to disable Grub2 menu? I use virtual server, and some time, when it wrong or trouble with power.. it can't bootup automatically
[08:34] <[x]> lsb_release -r
[08:35] <somsip> woozly: Maybe this would help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/111085/how-do-i-hide-the-grub-menu-showing-up-in-the-beginning-of-boot
[08:35] <woozly> somsip: thanks!
[08:35] <[x]> -bash: lsb_release: command not found
[08:35] <somsip> woozly: but if you may need to look into this carefully in case you mess up your server....
[08:36] <somsip> [x]: "All shell accounts include access to the FreeBSD binaries". So is this anything to do with ubuntu?
[08:38] <auronandace> [x]: what are you ssh-ing to?
[08:38] <somsip> auronandace: it's a FreeBSD shell account
[08:39] <auronandace> somsip: he pm'd you?
[08:39] <somsip> auronandace: 15:33 < [x]> cjb.net
[08:39] <auronandace> oh
[08:39] <Pricey> somsip: [x]: FreeBSD is an entirely different distribution, with little to no relation to Ubuntu.
[08:39] <somsip> Pricey: I know.... :-/
[08:39] <[x]> auronandace: ?
[08:39] <[x]> ok
[08:40] <auronandace> Pricey: a different os actually
[08:40] <Pricey> somsip: Aha, rereading your "So is this anything to do with ubuntu?" it could be taken in several ways... sorry :)
[08:40] <somsip> Pricey: np
[08:40] <somsip> Pricey: I use the passive coice far too often...
[08:40] <somsip> *voice
[08:41] <cfhowlett> !bsd
[08:42] <[x]> som 's ip ? some 1's ip
[08:43] <somsip> [x]: you're on the ignore list
[08:43] <[x]> ignore ? why
[08:44] <[x]> is admin revoked my voice ?
[08:44] <auronandace> [x]: what are you trying to accomplish?
[08:45] <[x]> :|
[08:45] <auronandace> [x]: ignore just means he can't see anything you type
[08:45] <Romance> install wine in shell, what would that be...
[08:45] <[x]> oh
[08:45] <[x]> ok auronandace
[08:45] <somsip> auronandace: he wants out help to install wine to run a win32 executable on a FreeBSD shell account
[08:46] <[x]> :|
[08:46] <auronandace> somsip: i'm attempting to find out if he understands what he is actually doing
[08:46] <somsip> auronandace: K - I'll leave it with you
[08:47] <[x]> :|
[08:48] <auronandace> [x]: would you like to answer my question?
[08:48] <Romance> why dont you read the wine website, and read the guide bout installing wine in freebsd
[08:48] <blackshirt> hello
[08:49] <[x]> i'm not good in english like you , so i've to be silent . i think
[08:49] <cfhowlett> !ot
[08:49] <auronandace> [x]: if i want to know what you are trying to do you'll have to tell me
[08:49] <xocolatl> hello, I have a key that is supposed to be <> but is instead êÊ.  where do I go to fix this?  I don't know how it happened.
[08:50] <xocolatl> to be clearer, I want to change the keyboard map for one key.  all the other keys of the layout are fine
[08:50] <[x]> auronandace: i want to know is it possible to run .exe file in remote ssh shell
[08:50] <blackshirt> no
[08:50] <auronandace> [x]: why would you want to do that?
[08:51] <[x]> auronandace: i want to run a bot
[08:51] <[x]> jabber bot written in c#
[08:51] <BlueWolf> I want my Ubuntu 12.04 to look like 10.04, I installed "gnome-panel", "gnome-shell" and the "gnome-tweak-tool" too but it's not coming up with a panel when I log out, what do I do?
[08:52] <progre55> hi guys. is it possible to edit a file so that it's modified date doesnt change? or set a file an old modification date?
[08:52] <crizis> BlueWolf, select 'Gnome classic' from login manager
[08:52] <auronandace> [x]: so you are on ubuntu, you are ssh-ing to freebsd and you want to run a windows binary on the remote box (freebsd)?
[08:53] <BlueWolf> crizis: Sorry it that before I login or somewhere else? ;-)
[08:54] <Myrtti> BlueWolf: if you login, you're not in the login manager anymore
[08:54] <[x]> auronandace: yep :SS
[08:54] <crizis> BlueWolf, from _the login screen_, where you write your password... there's that ubuntu icon next to password box which lets you select desktop session
[08:54] <auronandace> [x]: then you need to /join #freebsd and ask there
[08:55] <BlueWolf> crizis: Oh sorry I did not know that, I will go and give it a try and get back to you :)
[08:55] <tsimpson> progre55: you can use the 'touch' command to alter the modified time-stamp
[08:55] <[x]> i'm there also more people in this room having info then people in freebsd
[08:55] <blackshirt> [x] like stupid thing .... Ssh to your windows, and try to run your exe there
[08:55] <progre55> tsimpson: but is it possible to set it to a back-date?
[08:55] <auronandace> [x]: but what you want to do is a freebsd issue, not a ubuntu issue
[08:56] <progre55> tsimpson: let me read man touch :)
[08:56] <tsimpson> progre55: yes, use the -t option to set a specific date/time
[08:56] <progre55> tsimpson: awesome! thank you
[08:56] <Romance> blackshirt: i hope you know what youre talking about. [x] got this freebsd shell, he wants to run .exe in that shell
[08:56] <[x]> :S
[08:57] <blackshirt> romance, yes, i know .... That was just useless
[08:57] <[x]> *speechless* ? any problem . i dont ask anything about freebsd or ssh . leave it dude
[08:57] <Romance> blackshirt: and ssh windows? hopefully its rdp youre talking about
[08:58] <somsip> Romance: stop please. This is not helping anyone
[08:58] <Myrtti> [x]: you're not asking about Ubuntu either, and this is strictly for Ubuntu support
[08:58] <Myrtti> [x]: please take it elsewhere.
[08:58] <IdleOne> [x]: You are asking how to run a .exe from ssh on freebsd. Your question is freebsd related, not ubuntu related. Please ask #freebsd and be patient.
[08:58] <Romance> [x]: youre in a wrong channel
[08:58] <blackshirt> romance, he talking about ssh ... And yes, we can install ssh server in windows
[08:58] <[x]> ok leave it , no issue.
[08:58] <cfhowlett> !ot|once again, this is ubuntu.  Please.
[08:59] <Myrtti> moving on!
[08:59] <[x]> :|
[08:59] <BlackMumba> dns CPE-124-178-234-233.static.vic.bigpond.net.au
[09:00] <blackshirt> [x], greats if you understand :d
[09:04] <[x]> .
[09:06] <[x]> .
[09:06] <auronandace> [x]: stop that
[09:06] <IdleOne> [x]: Please stop that
[09:07] <Romance> [x]: stop please
[09:07] <Myrtti> I think he already got the point
[09:07] <linocisco> auronandace, what are u discussing?
[09:07] <[x]> ok ...
[09:07] <[x]> be right back
[09:08] <[x]> leave #ubuntu
[09:08] <auronandace> linocisco: sorry?
[09:09] <BlueWolf> crizis: Ok it's all good, what would happen if I was to remove all the unity's interfaces?
[09:10] <ThinkT510> BlueWolf: why would you want to do that?
[09:10] <BlueWolf> ThinkT510: Because I hate everything about Unity?
[09:10] <ThinkT510> BlueWolf: why not just leave it alone and use a different desktop?
[09:11] <ThinkT510> BlueWolf: removing stuff is far more likely to break things
[09:11] <gordonjcp> BlueWolf: people hated the Windows 95 interface too when it came out, and were really pleased to discover they could stick with good old progman.exe
[09:12] <blackshirt> bluewolf, you can install other de
[09:12] <IdleOne> gordonjcp: interesting, not helpful but interesting.
[09:12] <blackshirt> Or remove unity
[09:12] <BlueWolf> ThinkT510: I have just changed the desktop but I don't like the fact the the unity is not giving me the flexibility I want. Simple things like putting things on the top panel and removing the bottom :(
[09:12] <Guest33303> or install arch
[09:13] <ThinkT510> BlueWolf: what? if you are using another desktop then why are you complaining about unity?
[09:13] <BlueWolf> ThinkT510: It still has influence on the computer right?
[09:14] <ThinkT510> BlueWolf: you are in another desktop environment... so no
[09:14] <BlueWolf> ThinkT510: I am currently on 10.04 and I am finding 12.04 very stiff if you could call it that.
[09:14] <ThinkT510> BlueWolf: 10.04 doesn't even have unity
[09:15] <linocisco> anybody using glpi ?
[09:15] <KM0201> unity isn't to bad once you get used to it (and i was a vocal hater..)
[09:16] <BlueWolf> ThinkT510: I know that 10.04 does not have Unity, what I am saying is that I like the way 10.04 operates and 12.04 is not operating the same flexible way, how can I get it to do so?
[09:16] <ThinkT510> BlueWolf: gnome2 is dead, find an alternative you like
[09:17] <Guest33303> BlueWolf: why not go for Xubuntu
[09:18] <Pzat> can the mate desktop be used on lubuntu ?
[09:18] <ThinkT510> Pzat: it won't be supported here
[09:18] <BlueWolf> ThinkT510: Well I don't know what else there is and I haven't seen anything I like
[09:19] <ThinkT510> BlueWolf: gnome-shell has a fallback mode similar to gnome2
[09:19] <Guest33303> BlueWolf: go hardcore command line - never changes
[09:19] <ThinkT510> BlueWolf: many people like xfce
[09:20] <ThinkT510> BlueWolf: you could try lxde or kde or enlightenment
[09:20] <BlueWolf> Guest33303: I have not payed much attention to it Xubuntu
[09:20] <ThinkT510> BlueWolf: or you could even give unity a chance and find out it isn't as bad as people say
[09:20] <Guest33303> BlueWolf: Xubuntu is XFCE and similar to how Gnome was
[09:20] <Guest33303> its my default now
[09:20] <[deXter]> BlueWolf, Actually, do give Unity a chance so you can get to see how much better everything else is. ;)
[09:21] <nisdec> ThinkT510: they have their own channel here on freenode: #mate ... and yes.. I would give unity a chance
[09:21] <BlueWolf> ThinkT510: I have never heard of half of these, is there somewhere on the net that shows most of the Linux and reviews on them as well as popularity?
[09:21] <gordonjcp> BlueWolf: if you really, really can't get on with Unity, try XFCE
[09:22] <BlueWolf> [deXter]: Agreed, Another unity hater I presume? ;-)
[09:22] <[deXter]> BlueWolf, distrowatch.com
[09:22] <Guest33303> BlueWolf: distrowatch
[09:22] <gordonjcp> BlueWolf: Unity takes a bit of getting used to, but it's good once you get used to it
[09:22] <[deXter]> BlueWolf, Not really a hater, just disappointed in the direction Canonical's taken, that's all.
[09:22] <Guest33303> agreed
[09:22] <BlueWolf> [deXter]: I feel the same
[09:22] <HTDutchy> I have given unity a chance, and ubuntu 12.04 desktop... I went to #fedora
[09:23] <ThinkT510> let's keep to support
[09:23] <bazhang> lets get back to support please
[09:23] <Guest33303> is that life support?
[09:23] <bazhang> Guest33303, thats enough
[09:23] <gordonjcp> Unity *rocks*
[09:23] <Guest33303> :)
[09:23] <gordonjcp> you need a decent PC for it to be usably fast though ;-)
[09:24] <grampz007> lol
[09:24] <bazhang> !ot
[09:24] <KM0201> discussing unity is off topic?
[09:24] <bazhang> KM0201, how much you like it? yes
[09:25] <vivid> what if they say they like it
[09:25] <Guest33303> heres a support question - how can u make unity more responsive, given that its getting slower with each release?
[09:25] <bazhang> we have #ubuntu-discuss and #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[09:25] <BlueWolf> gordonjcp: Ok I must admit, the unity interface looks cool but I like to customize my desktop and interface and I can't with unity. If I could it would be awesome. Can you customize your interface with unity?
[09:25] <hdon> does anyone know of a terminal that compresses its scrollback in RAM? with search and bookmark features? i have *tons* of output on the project i'm working on. i need it all, unfortunately. but it's highly compressible.
[09:25] <vivid> Guest33303, patches welcome
[09:25] <hdon> terminal emulator
[09:26] <BlueWolf> 	
[09:26] <BlueWolf> Guest33303: ;-)
[09:26] <ThinkT510> BlueWolf: myunity is an app that gets you a few more options
[09:26] <hdon> i can just use less i guess
[09:26] <gordonjcp> BlueWolf: don't know, never tried
[09:26] <gordonjcp> BlueWolf: I'm not interested in "customising"
[09:26] <hdon> but less interferes with i/o :(
[09:26] <gordonjcp> BlueWolf: #u-ot if you want to tell me more, though
[09:26] <ThinkT510> BlueWolf: but overall unity isn't very configurable, my favourite is xfce
[09:27] <Guest33303> ThinkT510: im inclined to agree
[09:27] <hdon> less... probably doesn't memory map the file either, so i wouldn't save on mem use
[09:27] <BlueWolf> gordonjcp: Ok let's chat then?
[09:27] <gordonjcp> BlueWolf: #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:27] <vivid> heh, chanserv is on vacation?
[09:28] <bazhang> vivid, no
[09:29] <vivid> weird, hes totally not on my list
[09:29] <BlueWolf> ThinkT510: xfce - what's it about?
[09:29] <ThinkT510> !xfce | BlueWolf
[09:30] <bazhang> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ BlueWolf have a read
[09:30] <d1rkp1tt> Hi all, just wondering if anyone can help me discover what /dev my USB device is attahed to?
[09:30] <gordonjcp> d1rkp1tt: depends on the device
[09:30] <gordonjcp> d1rkp1tt: "dmesg" and "lsusb" might give you some clues
[09:31] <Guest33303> d1rkp1tt: sudo fdisk -l
[09:31] <BlueWolf> 	
[09:31] <BlueWolf> ThinkT510: ;-)
[09:31] <Chiko> just nuked my box >_<
[09:32] <tacirus> Hello, tell me how can I check what keyboard layout is active? Is there a variable in env or something?
[09:34] <ohoo> i love ubuntu :0
[09:34] <Guest33303> insane people here...
[09:34] <Chiko> i carelessly entered in a command and have since lost all forms of access :P
[09:34] <ohoo> Guest33303:  why ?;P
[09:35] <Guest33303> :)
[09:35] <ohoo> Chiko: be careful further
[09:35] <Chiko> it really didn't seem like it would do that
[09:35] <Chiko> was attempting to setup socks using the ssh command
[09:35] <jeaton> is ubuntu still using unity as a default DE?
[09:35] <Chiko> ah well live and learn
[09:35] <ThinkT510> jeaton: yes
[09:36] <jeaton> has it gotten better since it was first changed over?
[09:36] <ThinkT510> jeaton: yes
[09:36] <Guest33303> and no
[09:36] <Guest33303> unity gives u porn with your searches now
[09:36] <ThinkT510> Guest33303: stop that
[09:37] <tacirus> Hey guys, I `m using Gnome, tekk me how to check what keyboard layout is active, please.
[09:38] <ejv> tacirus: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/12072/how-do-i-get-current-keyboard-layout
[09:38] <tacirus> tekk = tell
[09:38] <jeaton> im probably in dire need to update, im still using ubuntu 10.XX
[09:38] <tacirus> ejv: ok, going to see
[09:38] <ohoo> Guest33303: please keep diginity of irc chat upto mark...dont use offensive words..else bot will kick/ban you
[09:38] <bazhang> ohoo, lets move on
[09:38] <ThinkT510> jeaton: if that's 10.10 then it's no longer supported
[09:38] <jeaton> i tried 11.10 awhile back, didnt like unity, switched DE, had a few issues, so I went back to 10
[09:38] <bazhang> jeaton, 10.04 or 10.10
[09:38] <jeaton> 10.04
[09:39] <ohoo> bazhang: sure ;0
[09:39] <Chiko> anyone feel like helping me navigate from a recovery mode to fixing an issue i caused ubuntu 10.04 lucid
[09:39] <ejv> 5 seconds of google, the foo is strong with me i suppose...
[09:39] <Chiko> i ran ssh and added something in the RSA as a trusted host
[09:39] <steveGODSchild> hi
[09:39] <ohoo> steveGODSchild: hello
[09:39] <steveGODSchild> I just wanted to come in
[09:40] <ohoo> steveGODSchild: welcome ;)
[09:40] <MikeWorth> Hi, I'm trying to solve a problem with truecrypt that is giving me an inode number; I've tried grepping the results of  "ls -liR /", but get no results. Is it possible that there is an inode not referenced to a file? I'm still a bit foggy on inodes so I might have got this wrong...
[09:40] <steveGODSchild> and thank the oo\\people here for their help
[09:40] <ejv> are you trying to recover a damaged container? why are you referencing inoes...
[09:41] <steveGODSchild> I got my cd roms to work
[09:41] <ThinkT510> !yay | steveGODSchild
[09:42] <MikeWorth> I keep seeing "Oct  8 20:34:07 mike kernel: [ 6579.447196] Valid eCryptfs headers not found in file header region or xattr region, inode 4325495
[09:42] <MikeWorth> Oct  8 20:34:07 mike kernel: [ 6579.447200] Either the lower file is not in a valid eCryptfs format, or the key could not be retrieved. Plaintext passthrough mode is not enabled; returning -EIO" in my syslog whenever i try to login, which fails
[09:43] <steveGODSchild> now I can actually listen to a cd
[09:43] <MikeWorth> *login using the graphical interface on my main account with encrypted home. I can login as that user from tty1/ssh and as a different user in the graphical interface
[09:43] <Chiko> no idea how to use recovery console
[09:46] <Respite212> how do I get into nvidia setup?
[09:46] <hdon> MikeWorth, do you know the process that is spitting out the error? have you thought of using strace or lsof to see which files its reading? trucrypt can encrypt filesystems, so perhaps the inode is of the encrypted filesystem, and not your /
[09:46] <ThinkT510> Respite212: search for nvidia-settings
[09:46] <hdon> MikeWorth, is trucrypt encrypting your home?
[09:47] <Respite212> ah thanks
[09:47] <ThinkT510> Respite212: if you are trying to install the nvidia driver then use the additional drivers dialog
[09:47] <steveGODSchild> is it alright if I just sit here awhile
[09:47] <ThinkT510> steveGODSchild: sure, many people lurk and learn
[09:47] <hdon> mikeey, oh, i see you're talking about eCryptfs now. sorry i only saw "truecrypt" and assumed you meant "trucrypt." is newer ubuntu using trucrypt? (or something called truecrypt?)
[09:49] <g105b> Hmpf .. Libre Office 1.6 stops Alt-Tabbing constantly ... can't get at my document without minimising everything else...
[09:50] <ThinkT510> g105b: 1.6?
[09:50] <MikeWorth> I'm not sure what process it is, the log simply reports kernel. Sorry, I meant eCryptfs- my mistake; I selected encrypt home directory at installation and let it do its thing.
[09:50] <g105b> 3.6
[09:50] <g105b> ThinkT510: ^^
[09:50] <MikeWorth> The home directory is mounted once I login over ssh/tty1 or su to that user
[09:54] <leshaste>  what is the command that tells you info about a file?
[09:54] <ThinkT510> leshaste: file
[09:54] <leshaste> thanks!
[09:56] <Nicekiwi> is there an Ubuntu-One extension/Script/Plug-in for Thunar?
[09:57] <bazhang> Nicekiwi, tried apt-cache search thunar  or apt-cache search ubuntu one? you can also ask in #ubuntuone
[09:57] <impi> heya guys...my nvidia graphics card is running between 85C and 91 C....i cant actually work like this
[09:57] <impi> in unity
[09:57] <MikeWorth> I've just made a breakthrough- I wasn't using the -a option so ignoring all hidden files/directories. I've found something, let me have a closer look
[09:57] <jdw> How well is Canonical doing in terms of revenue and profit?
[09:58] <bazhang> jdw, thats not an ubuntu support question
[09:58] <ThinkT510> jdw: this is just a support channel
[09:58] <impi> is there someone that can help me with my gpu problem?
[09:58] <impi> im running nvidia 330M geforce on a brand new laptop
[09:58] <Nicekiwi> bazhang, chur
[09:59] <bazhang> Nicekiwi, pardon?
[09:59] <jdw> oh, I thought this channel was for anything related to Ubutnu, nvm then. Yes, the topic says it all
[09:59] <Nicekiwi> bazhang, short for cheers, or thank you :)
[10:00] <bazhang> jdw, perhaps #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:00] <jdw> bazhang: ty
[10:01] <MikeWorth> I'm in! The file I found was in .Private and looks lke it should have been an encrypted file or something, but had zero length. I moved it out to /root to see what would happen and i'm now able to login
[10:07] <jdw> the main concern in #ubuntu-offtopic is how can people raise animals and then kill them and eat them  ...
[10:07] <MonkeyDust> jdw  wrong channel
[10:08] <jdw> also IdelOne likes cows and bacon...
[10:08] <jdw> nvm
[10:11] <shiv> how can i install sony vegas to 12.04
[10:11] <bazhang> !appdb | shiv
[10:12] <bazhang> shiv, check the appdb, then /join @winehq
[10:12] <bazhang> #winehq rather
[10:13] <jashack> hi
[10:13] <shiv> Thanks ubuttu so i should install wine and download the specified version from the list at wine database? Thanks
[10:17] <farrioth> I am using a patched version of libfreetype6.  How can I tell apt to remove libfreetype6 but still treat it as a met dependency?
[10:20] <cryx> ö
[10:20] <farrioth> cryx: ä
[10:21] <Marzatha> what package the images in /usr/share/pixmaps comes from? thanks.
[10:22] <dr_willis> Marzatha:  i belive the apt-file command can do reverse lookups . or ubotu has a !find filename feature
[10:22] <farrioth> Marzatha: do a dpkg-query -S /usr/share/pixmaps
[10:22] <vadi2> How can I create a system user account in Ubuntu?
[10:22] <farrioth> vadi2: useradd is the standard linux way
[10:23] <vadi2> adduser you mean?
[10:23] <Marzatha> dr_willis: farrioth: I am on Xubuntu.
[10:23] <farrioth> vadi2: No, I use useradd...
[10:23] <farrioth> vadi2: But adduser exists too.
[10:23] <sasuke> hi guys just now i have updated my laptop. I'm receiving this error while installing skype "The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:23] <vadi2> hm ok
[10:23] <sasuke> skype: Depends: skype-bin but it is a virtual package
[10:23] <sasuke> " any solutions
[10:24] <farrioth> Marzatha: Does that mean you can't run dpkg-query for some reason?
[10:24] <vadi2> I went with adduser --system <name>
[10:25] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[10:25] <farrioth> vadi2: I've never used adduser, but then again most of my systems are single-user.
[10:26] <dr_willis> i tend to do sudo adduser billgates    for |xample
[10:26] <Marzatha> farrioth: :) can't understand what that returns
[10:26] <ShapeShifter499> I am running ubuntu 12.04 AMD 64 Bit... after messing around with wine I think I found out opengl isn't installed on my system.... should opengl come enabled with opensource graphics drivers?
[10:26] <vadi2> farrioth: I don't suppose you'll know what the default password is for the new user?
[10:26] <MonkeyDust> dr_willis  make sure he dosnt patent your pc
[10:27] <ShapeShifter499> and how do I tell if opengl is installed?
[10:27] <vak> hi all
[10:27] <vak> how to register the maximum RES and/or VIRT memory usage for a process?
[10:28] <i7c> i'm on xubuntu. when i go to settings->display i can see my primary display (laptop) and the display-port. i can even enable the external but it stays black. i also can't rearrange the displays there. is there another settings tool?
[10:28] <dr_willis> ShapeShifter499: should be installed by default. whats your video chipset
[10:28] <i7c> xrandr output: http://pastebin.com/Ut1fKVhr
[10:29] <ShapeShifter499> dr_willis, CPU: AMD Athlon II X2 M300  GPU: ATI Radion HD 4200
[10:29] <ShapeShifter499> dr_willis, I know glxinfo isn't installed
[10:30] <farrioth> vadi2: There is no password by default I believe.
[10:30] <dr_willis> for best 3d ShapeShifter499  you may need the fglrx drivers
[10:30] <farrioth> farrioth: It should return a list of packages which own the files in that dir.
[10:31] <vadi2> farrioth: it seems what the docs say as well. How can I select and use the new system user?
[10:31] <ShapeShifter499> dr_willis, I couldn't get them running
[10:31] <vadi2> Since I need to "perform actions as a system user"... and su systemuser asks for a password
[10:31] <ThinkT510> vadi2: why not use sudo?
[10:31] <dr_willis> adduser ask for the new users new password normally.
[10:31] <farrioth> vadi2: use `passwd <user>` to set the password.
[10:32] <vadi2> ThinkT510: I don't need root though
[10:32] <ShapeShifter499> dr_willis, it never worked, I had to boot into ubuntu's safe mode to fix and run the open source
[10:33] <dr_willis> su user wants the users pass. i belive sudo  has options to run stuf as a specific user also
[10:33] <vadi2> farrioth: thank you
[10:33] <vadi2> This is confusing me. The system user it seems has no shell (ok), how am I supposed to run things as him? sudo?
[10:34] <jpds> vadi2: sudo -u $USER ls /dev
[10:34] <dr_willis> use sudo for admin type tasks yes vadi2
[10:34] <dr_willis> dont use su to get root rights.
[10:34] <vadi2> makes sense, thank you
[10:35] <ShapeShifter499> dr_willis, what do you think I should do?
[10:36] <dr_willis> ShapeShifter499: no idea really. i avoid ati.  you could try newer fglrx drivers. but i dont know much about ati anymore
[10:37] <ShapeShifter499> dr_willis, know how to get opengl enabled for open source?
[10:37] <dr_willis> open sourced ati drivers often have limitiins
[10:37] <vadi2> root owns /srv, but I'd like to create a folder in there as my system user. What do I do?
[10:38] <dr_willis> should be enabled by default  ShapeShifter499  but i bet it will be realslow
[10:39] <dr_willis> vadi2: sudo mkdir foo.   then chown it. it one way
[10:39] <ShapeShifter499> dr_willis, what if mesa wasn't installed?
[10:39] <ShapeShifter499> I'm not seeing any of those installed just xorg
[10:39] <vadi2> ok
[10:39] <dr_willis> ive not had to fight with 3d in ages ShapeShifter499
[10:40] <dr_willis> so no idea.
[10:40] <ShapeShifter499> lol
[10:40] <ShapeShifter499> I fight everyday
[10:40] <ShapeShifter499> right now it seems ok but I thought my system could be faster
[10:40] <dr_willis> i stick to last years nvidia chipsets. ;-)
[10:41] <warm> hi, my root file system is running out of space. The total space is 9G, and now the /usr folder is of 6G. Now there is a empty partition, and i want the whole /usr to be there, how?
[10:42] <zaid_h> poke repete
[10:43] <DegreesAwesome> Can I run Ubuntu on My Laptop which came with preinstalled Windows 7
[10:44] <ThinkT510> DegreesAwesome: you should be able to yes
[10:44] <MonkeyDust> DegreesAwesome  sure, if you have space enough
[10:44] <farrioth> warm: Back up, boot off a livecd, mount your old root and your new /usr, rsync -rlptoP /mnt/oldroot/usr/ /mnt/newusr/ , empty /mnt/oldroot/usr/ , change the fstab and reboot.  Hopefully.
[10:44] <bea_> problem here: i'm trying to set up NIS, but the service /etc/init.d/nis that is referred to by any documentation (including the one in /usr/share/doc/) does not exist.
[10:44] <DegreesAwesome> Hdd 320 gb
[10:46] <Nicekiwi> my computer wont boot ubuntu unless "acpi=off" is set in grub, it used to work without that.. and nothing has really changed BIOS wise.. help? I cant suspend or anything without ACPI can I?
[10:46] <farrioth> Nicekiwi: Is there an error message if you don't use acpi=off?
[10:47] <warm> farrioth, what if i just copied everything from old to new, and mounted the new partition to /usr,  will there be problem rather than the rsnyc command?
[10:47] <MonkeyDust> !dualboot > DegreesAwesome
[10:48] <farrioth> warm: rsync will ensure that permissions etc are preserved.
[10:48] <DegreesAwesome> Thanks MonkeyDust :)
[10:48] <warm> farrioth, ah, thanks a lot
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> <3 rsync
[10:51] <farrioth> I am making a dummy package for libfreetype6 (I have installed a patched version).  Currently I get the error:
[10:51] <farrioth>  libfreetype6:amd64 2.4.9-infinality (Multi-Arch: no) is not co-installable with libfreetype6:i386 2.4.8-1ubuntu2 (Multi-Arch: same) which is currently installed
[10:51] <farrioth> Is there a way to replace only the amd64 package?
[10:53] <MonkeyDust> farrioth  better don't mix i386 and amd64
[10:53] <DegreesAwesome> farrioth : its like einstein asking steve jobs :D
[10:54] <farrioth> MonkeyDust: I didn't, apt did.  I think it's to do with cxoffice.
[10:54] <Nicekiwi> farrioth, no the screen just goes black from boot and nothing
[10:54] <Nicekiwi> farrioth, it'll just sit forever
[10:54] <farrioth> Nicekiwi: Perhaps check your apt logs to see what changed around the time it broke.. Else I can't help, sorry.
[10:59] <Nicekiwi> farrioth, oh this is form a fresh install. it didnt suddenly jsut happen
[10:59] <Nicekiwi> far... oh bugger
[11:05] <tim> hi, afaict, the `nice' value of processes has no effect if sched_autogroup is enabled, which seems to be the default. however this is quite a standard way to control process priorities ... is there any workaround for this? except for disabling sched_autogroup?
[11:08] <oO> Hello, I am having issues with update manager. I cannot update currently and I am having a red error notification on the top which says, my update information is outdated. I am manually checking for updates my it has failed.
[11:09] <oO> Any kind of help would be appreciated, thanks.
[11:09] <ThinkT510> oO: what is the output of sudo apt-get update?
[11:09] <MonkeyDust> oO  in a terminal, type sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade    close the update manager first
[11:09] <ArmyMan007> Is it smart to connect an Alienware M14X ONLY to AC power and leave out the battery?
[11:10] <ArmyMan007> !battery
[11:10] <ArmyMan007> !ubuntu
[11:11] <acerimmer__> ArmyMan007: unlikely to cause a problem.
[11:11] <oO> MonkeyDust and ThinkT510, I did that, and now many lines are appearing constantly.
[11:12] <oO> Looks like it's updating or checking for updates or something like that..
[11:12] <crizis> ArmyMan007, likely won't run at full cpu speed without battery. at least this is the case with many high end laptops, including all macbook pros, they won't have enough juice with ac only
[11:12] <ArmyMan007> acerimmer__:  will the battery life remain the same or will it drain out?
[11:13] <ikonia> ArmyMan007: this isn't anything to do with #ubuntu - please take it to ##hardware channel
[11:13] <MonkeyDust> oO  make sure you're not using old sources // type sudo apt-get update|pastebinit and paste the url here
[11:13] <ArmyMan007> ikonia: no answer... thought might as well pay a visit here
[11:13] <ikonia> not really
[11:13] <ikonia> Amgine_: ##hardware is the right place
[11:14] <ikonia> ArmyMan007: plus I don't see you asking in ##hardware - so I think you may have not actually asked
[11:14] <ikonia> I don't actually see you as having been in the ##hardware channel
[11:14] <oO> MonkeyDust, the current process is still not finished, should I close that or trying that command on a new window?
[11:14] <ArmyMan007> ikonia: no need to be nasty to ppl
[11:14] <ikonia> ArmyMan007: I'm not being nasty
[11:14] <ikonia> ArmyMan007: I'm advising you of the right channel after you lied and said you had already asked in there
[11:15] <MonkeyDust> oO  wait until it's finished
[11:15] <oO> Okay.
[11:15] <kostis> kaneis apo ellada?
[11:15] <MonkeyDust> !gr
[11:19] <Shazer[2]> Hey guys.
[11:19] <Shazer[2]> Need a bit of a hand.
[11:20] <Shazer[2]> I went to a site which had a java aplet on it, but it wouldn't load in Chrome.
[11:20] <Shazer[2]> So I clicked install missing plugins and it took me to the Java site where I downloaded the required package/.
[11:20] <Shazer[2]> Now I'm not sure how to install/implement it. Can I get some help please?
[11:22] <Shazer[2]> Anyone?
[11:23] <oO> MonkeyDust, after the current process I started before, it asks me to update the Google Chrome, and I hit yes.
[11:23] <oO> Now I guess it's downloading that..
[11:23] <oO> After that one, I will try your command.
[11:23] <Shazer[2]> MonkeyDust: can I grab a hand/
[11:24] <Shazer[2]> s/\//?/
[11:25] <MonkeyDust> Shazer[2]  i'm not familiar with java, i'm sure someone else can help you better
[11:27] <progre55> Shazer[2]: why dont you just install jre, it will pull all its plugins, too
[11:27] <dmh654> Hi, just installed the latest stable and am having problems with the mouse, I can open stuff but when I try to close it's not agreeing with what I commant lol, it's just ignoring my mouse commands at times, cyborg Rat 7, flipping annoying, any ideas
[11:28] <ThinkT510> dmh654: cyborg rat 7?
[11:28] <dmh654> yeah, gaming mouse
[11:29] <dmh654> http://www.cyborggaming.com/prod/rat7.htm
[11:29] <dmh654> I cant close windows
[11:29] <dmh654> click all I like and nothng happens
[11:30] <dmh654> sometimes if I hit enter when a button is highlighted it will close
[11:31] <oO> MonkeyDust, before running your command the problem has solved with the recent update, and the error message gone.
[11:32] <oO> I don't exactly know how (I changed the repo though), but thanks a lot!
[11:32] <dmh654> I dont think its directly Ubuntu related as I had the same thing on other distros I tried this morning, but its a problem with some config or something
[11:33] <ikonia> dmh654: a quick google shows that mouse having a problem with xorg in generl
[11:33] <ikonia> general
[11:33] <dmh654> ikonia:  thanks I did search, got a link so I can check it out
[11:34] <dmh654> or an aswer :)
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> oO  problem solved?
[11:34] <ikonia> there doesn't appear to be an answer
[11:34] <dmh654> crap
[11:34] <ikonia> but a few of the rat mouses appear to have glitches with xorg
[11:34] <ikonia> most seem to be around skipping or moving too fast
[11:35] <dmh654> must be a solution other than dumping a 100 euro mose lol
[11:35] <dmh654> mpose even
[11:35] <ikonia> why must there be ?
[11:35] <dmh654> mouse, need a new keyboard as well
[11:35] <ikonia> if there is compatability issues.......
[11:35] <akls> is it possible to draw directly to the x window system? Like if I wanted to draw an image that would have no window and will always be on top of everything
[11:35] <dmh654> ikonia:  because where there is a will there is a way :)
[11:36] <ikonia> dmh654: off you go then, you make a solution
[11:36] <oO> MonkeyDust, it updated Google Chrome successfully. I didn't have pastebinit installed, it installed that program too. But the only weird thing I see is, when I run the GUI update manage, it says package information was last updated 8 days ago.
[11:36] <dmh654> yeah, boot to windows until linux gets up to speed :)
[11:36] <ikonia> akls: define draw, do you mean render an image/window without title bars, or do you meean "draw" as in draw with a pen
[11:36] <dmh654> ikonia:  you got that link?
[11:36] <akls> ikonia, render an image
[11:36] <ikonia> dmh654: there you go, problem solved
[11:36] <ikonia> dmh654: what lin k?
[11:37] <ikonia> dmh654: there isn't a link, just have a google for "rat mouse and linux" or "rat mouse fedora" etc
[11:37] <pibarnas> akls: with imagemagick or xv I think...
[11:37] <dmh654> the one you looked at
[11:37] <oO> MonkeyDust, the command "$ sudo apt-get update|pastebinit" is running forever it seems. :-/
[11:37] <ikonia> you'll see a few problems, mostly around the mouse skipping
[11:37] <oO> MonkeyDust, I gotta go now, I will be back later with the output, sorry. :-(
[11:37] <dmh654> will check it out, ty anyway
[11:37] <Ben64> oO: it might never produce output if it is waiting for a response
[11:37] <ikonia> akls: some application have a -noboarder flag
[11:37] <codescience> MonkeyDust, what source server are you using?
[11:38] <oO> Ben64, response from whom? I am not seeing anything.
[11:38] <akls> ikonia, well, I don't need all the stuff that windows have. Like draggable and other things
[11:38] <Ben64> oO: response from you, like if it's asking a question
[11:38] <oO> Nope, it's asking nothing. :-)
[11:38] <akls> ikonia, I understand that I can make a gtk window that is unmovable and has no borders and other stuff
[11:38] <ikonia> akls: yes, so "noboarder" would stop that (if the application supports tgat flag, not all do)
[11:38] <Ben64> oO: the |pastebinit might stop you from seeing it
[11:39] <oO> Ben64, where to see then?
[11:39] <akls> ikonia, but it's damn too complicated to simply display an image
[11:39] <Ben64> oO: why are you trying to pastebin apt-get update anyway?
[11:39] <ikonia> akls: you need an application to display the image
[11:39] <oO> Ben64, I don't know.
[11:39] <akls> ikonia, nope, I'm making an application that should display an image
[11:40] <oO> I tried only this -- "sudo apt-get update|pastebinit" Ben64.
[11:40] <Ben64> oO: just run it without pastebinit and then you can pastebin it manually if needed
[11:40] <ikonia> akls: right so that is the application, the one you are making IS the application
[11:40] <oO> Ben64, aye, I can do that. Will do later.
[11:40] <akls> well, yea
[11:40] <oO> Sorry, really gotta go now.
[11:42] <Eagleman> Why am i getting missed X ticks in dstat.log
[11:43] <jeaton> anyone here do not unity?
[11:43] <jeaton> not like*
[11:43] <dmh654> ikonia:  will try this and get back http://fcns.eu/2011/04/01/cyborg-rat-7-mouse-under-linux/ with results thanks again
[11:50] <satyaktree> hello
[11:51] <satyaktree> i have an issue with one application, it is able to send mails for external email id's, but it is not able to send intranet mail id's
[11:53] <satyaktree> in send mail logs i found this "554 Mailaddress is administratively disabled."
[11:53] <HTDutchy> satyaktree: not sure if I know what the problem is, but when you ping those domains?
[11:53] <HTDutchy> satyaktree: well then contact your administrator? xD
[11:54] <Guest2631> hi everyone
[11:54] <HTDutchy> Hi Guest2631
[11:54] <crazydiamond> Hi. How do I write for loop in 1 line?
[11:54] <crazydiamond> (I mean bash)
[11:55] <ThinkT510> crazydiamond: #bash might know
[11:55] <crazydiamond> thanks
[11:55] <Guest98857> Where to I put my signing key (.gpg) to remove the ppa error?
[11:56] <mr-peache> crazydiamond: while[condition];do;command1;done
[11:56] <crazydiamond> mr-peache thanks
[11:57] <mr-peache> np
[11:57] <Guest2631> i install 2 times xubuntu 12.04 and i cant solve a problem he asks something for grub rescue any help please iam only in trying mode and i cant get the normal mode
[11:57] <Shodex> Where to I put my signing key (.gpg) to remove the ppa error?
[12:01] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:01] <acerimmer__> BluesKaj: greetings
[12:01] <mr-peache> BluesKaj: Hello
[12:02] <BluesKaj> hi acerimmer__ , mr-peache
[12:04] <ShapeShifter499> so xrandr.... if it only shows 60+  under my display modes that means I can't have a display refresh mode over 60Hz?
[12:06] <rrajbe> Hi. Im looking for a way to print user ID of all running process in linux using a c program. Any way for that?
[12:06] <tsimpson> ShapeShifter499: '+' marks the preferred mode, '*' marks the current mode
[12:06] <M1R4G3> hi
[12:06] <bobsapp> looking for a tool like top that can watch the number of files a process opens
[12:06] <bobsapp> is anyone aware of something like this?
[12:06] <ShapeShifter499> tsimpson, yes and 60 is the highest it shows
[12:07] <ShapeShifter499> tsimpson, is that my laptop display's true limit or driver/software limit?
[12:08] <bea_> problem here: i'm trying to set up NIS, but the service /etc/init.d/nis that is referred to by any documentation (including the one in /usr/share/doc/) does not exist.
[12:08] <jans> list
[12:08] <M1R4G3> Hello there :)
[12:08] <tsimpson> ShapeShifter499: it's the limit reported by the hardware, laptop screens usually stay at ~60
[12:09] <BluesKaj> ShapeShifter499, my nvidia 8400GS , maxes out at 60 ..it's not an expensive card , but that's all I can expect from it
[12:09] <ejv> bea_: man ypbind ?
[12:10] <ShapeShifter499> BluesKaj, tsimpson so if I wanted to attempt higher fps then I should turn v-sync off?
[12:10] <rrajbe> is it possible to segregate root process alone using /proc data?
[12:12] <ejv> rrajbe: sounds like your venturing into grsecurity RBAC, gentoo hardened project might pique your interest
[12:13] <tsimpson> ShapeShifter499: it's not the frame rate, it's the refresh rate of the screen
[12:14] <BluesKaj> ShapeShifter499, I have sync to Vblank turned off , but I don't notice much difference, slightly less flickering maybe (42" plasma Monitor)
[12:15] <ShapeShifter499> I know that but I read online, higher refesh rate can lead to more fps
[12:15] <ShapeShifter499> tsimpson, ^^
[12:16] <ShapeShifter499> BluesKaj, ok thanks, one more thing is CCSM a good place to turn off v-sync?
[12:17] <ShapeShifter499> BluesKaj, I see the option to turn off "sync to Vblank" there
[12:18] <BluesKaj> ShapeShifter499, dunno I turn it off in my nvidia server settings GUI , ..and I don't use CCSM since I run KDE
[12:19] <mr-peache> SapeShifter499: you can turn it off in the CCSM
[12:21] <rrajbe_> ejv: Im not getting it clear. Can you please brief it?
[12:26] <faoiseamh> have a new 12.04 server setup that has crashed a few times with nothing in syslog / kern.log or anything at all really - how do I go about debugging this?
[12:28] <mr-peache> faoiseamh: is there anything related to the crashes - a program or something
[12:29] <pinosb> ciao
[12:29] <pinosb> !list
[12:30] <mr-peache> ubottu: lol
[12:31] <dmh654> why does xorg.conf not exist on my shiney new Ubuntu?
[12:31] <dmh654> I need to edit it to get my mose working
[12:31] <dmh654> mouse
[12:32] <zykotick9> dmh654: you can generate one "if you need it".  it hasn't existed by default for quite some time now.
[12:33] <dmh654> I tried  doing ctrl alt f1 and logging in but it does not accept my password for some reason
[12:33] <tmkt> hey hey..not exactly a ubuntu question, just a question that i'm stumped with... built 2 new ubuntu boxes..brought them to the colo installed them boxA/boxB, boxB can telnet to boxC on 443/80/8080 but for some reason boxA will only connect to port 443/80 and gets connection refused on 8080
[12:33] <tmkt> any ideas why?
[12:33] <dmh654> I know how to create one but cant get past the first hurdle
[12:35] <dmh654> zykotick9:  this what I am attempting http://delightlylinux.wordpress.com/2012/03/07/using-the-cyborg-r-a-t-7-with-ubuntu/
[12:36] <zykotick9> dmh654: sorry if you don't know your password, i can't help.  good luck.
[12:36] <faoiseamh> mr-peache: nothing I can find. no correlation I can determine. inconsistent times, times since boot, etc. How should i try to determine if a program is the cause?
[12:36] <dmh654> zykotick9:  lol I know it, it just wont accept it???
[12:37] <zykotick9> dmh654: that's a crazy lookin' mouse.  good luck.
[12:37] <dmh654> :)
[12:37] <faoiseamh> heading to work though, please leave me any ideas and i'll be back later
[12:38] <tmkt> just can't figure out what is stopping BoxA from being able to connect to boxC on port 8080 when all the other ports work..and other boxes don't have the same problem
[12:38] <dmh654> zykotick9:  broke my other Trust thing playing 2worlds2 so I thought on a stronger one, problem, linux does not like it at face value
[12:39] <dmh654> I will get there
[12:39] <mnice> hello
[12:40] <dmh654> zykotick9:  whats the easiest way to generate a xorg.conf file plz
[12:40] <mnice> well .. haha .. unity is segfaulting http://susepaste.org/view/raw/15363943 in Xvnc .. poor .. well, that it won't run with opengl is expectable but segfaulting is funny ... unity-2d-shell runs some nonsense .. how can i run unity session in vnc ?
[12:41] <zykotick9> mnice: you want to run a 3d gui across a network?  good luck with that...
[12:41] <syre> isnt /etc/rc.local supposed to run commands in it at startup? maybe its related to the "xset m 0 0" only works when X has started?
[12:41] <ThinkT510> mnice: i don't think vnc like compositing
[12:42] <jrib> syre: yes
[12:42] <syre> jrib: to both? ;)
[12:42] <jrib> syre: yes :)  You probably want that in your ~/.xprofile
[12:42] <zykotick9> dmh654: it requires logging in from a VT (which you can't do for some reason?  it also requires sudo, which i'll guess you also can't use).  i can't help.
[12:42] <syre> jrib: ah! thanks
[12:42] <mnice> zykotick9 & ThinkT510 .. oh god .. NO I DO NOT .. reread please
[12:43] <OerHeks> dmh654, Boot Ubuntu in the Recovery mode and choose for >> root     Drop to root shell prompt  and type:  Xorg -configure
[12:43] <mnice> i would like to run unity in 2d (without compositing|opengl)
[12:43] <jrib> syre: depending on how you login exactly, ~/.xsession, ~/.xinitrc, and ~/.config/autostart/ are other possibilities
[12:44] <syre> jrib: hrrrm standard lightdm with gnome classic?
[12:44] <mnice> like for example kde automatically detects the capability of given output and runs themselves either with opengl on or off
[12:44] <jrib> syre: then ~/.xprofile or a .desktop file in ~/.config/autostart/ (this is what's used by the gui for creating startup applications) should work
[12:45] <syre> jrib: ~/.xprofile it is then, thanks alot
[12:48] <zykotick9> OerHeks: isn't it "X -configure  :1"
[12:48] <zykotick9> OerHeks: the :1 only being required if x is running.
[12:50] <OerHeks> zykotick9, i showed him the way to recovery, safest method i think, besides his password doesn't work somehowe
[12:50] <zykotick9> OerHeks: i'm just concerned about the X vs Xorg (hopefully Xorg works)
[12:51] <zykotick9> OerHeks: i consulted the man page Xorg is correct as well :)
[12:52] <no_gravity> Hello! How do I find out my ubuntu version?
[12:52] <zykotick9> no_gravity: "lsb_release -a" from terminal is one way
[12:52] <zykotick9> no_gravity: you can see "/msg ubottu version" i believe for that same direction
[12:53] <no_gravity> zykotick9: ok, ubuntu 10.04
[12:53] <no_gravity> I just plugged in an usb wlan stick into this machine. Nothing happened. How can I make it find the wlan?
[12:54] <zykotick9> no_gravity: does "lsusb" show the device for starters?
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> was that visual to all? if yes, sorry
[12:55] <chris_99> hi, i'm currently running ubuntu 12.04 how do i upgrade to the 12.10 beta
[12:55] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: was what visual?  i don't think it was.
[12:55] <chris_99> update-manager -d doesn't get it
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> ok
[12:55] <no_gravity> zykotick9: hmm.. one entry i dont know what it is "Atheros Communications, Inc". The others dont look like wlan devices.
[12:56] <zykotick9> no_gravity: atheros is probably your wlan - does it show a model number?  if so, i'd search online for support for that particular model.
[12:57] <no_gravity> zykotick9: no, it just shows the string i typed. but i have the package. its a tl-wn721n.
[12:57] <kenabara> Merveilleux ubuntu le meilleeur!!!
[12:57] <zykotick9> no_gravity: for general wireless you could check the "/msg ubottu atheros" factoid, just a general wireless help wiki page a believe, not atheros specific!
[12:57] <zykotick9> !fr | kenabara
[12:58] <no_gravity> zykotick9: hmm.. maybe i install the latest ubuntu version and see if it supports it out of the box?
[12:58] <bazhang> chris_99, check that it does not say "look for LTS only"
[12:58] <alvesjnr> hi all. I have a project which generates a .rpm file. Is it possible to submit it to be installed through apt-get ... ?
[12:59] <chris_99> cheer bazhang that fixed it :)
[12:59] <chris_99> *cheers
[12:59] <no_gravity> zykotick9: but how do i know it doesnt support it already?
[12:59] <zykotick9> no_gravity: well, 10.04 ISN'T going to have the best hardward support at this time... so that "could" work, but 0 guarantee.
[12:59] <bazhang> alvesjnr, no, you'd need a .deb
[12:59] <bazhang> !packaging | alvesjnr
[12:59] <alvesjnr> tk
[13:00] <zykotick9> no_gravity: you'll have to search online, or is someone here happens to have the same hardware (perhaps they'll know more).  best of luck.
[13:00] <bazhang> no_gravity, worth a check into linux-backports-modules for that
[13:00] <bazhang> no_gravity, if you gave us the exact atheros we could be more certain
[13:01] <zykotick9> bazhang: no_gravity stated it's a tl-wn721n (i didn't personally go searching for it online)
[13:01] <no_gravity> zykotick9: i mean, maybe my machine supports this stick, but i have to enable wlan somewhere?
[13:02] <no_gravity> bazhang: its a tl-wn721n.
[13:02] <zykotick9> no_gravity: do you have a networking icon in top right corner?  check in that (it's Network Manager btw)
[13:02] <no_gravity> zykotick9: no. i dont have a top panel.
[13:03] <zykotick9> no_gravity: i see.  well, good luck.
[13:03] <bazhang> http://askubuntu.com/questions/83137/list-of-wireless-adapters-that-just-work-with-ubuntu-11-10 no_gravity this one?
[13:04] <no_gravity> in the main menu, there is a network thingy. under wireless it shows nothing.
[13:04] <no_gravity> bazhang: what do you mean?
[13:04] <bazhang> no_gravity, read the link
[13:05] <no_gravity> bazhang: i did. but i dont understand the question "this one?".
[13:05] <bazhang> no_gravity, is that one your card
[13:06] <no_gravity> bazhang: my card is mentioned on that page, yes. looks like it works under ubuntu 11.
[13:06]  * no_gravity runs gparted to make room for an ubuntu 12 partition...
[13:06] <bazhang> no_gravity, and 12.04 if you read the link carefully
[13:07] <no_gravity> bazhang: yes, thanks.
[13:07] <no_gravity> actually i will install mint, but i guess thats based on the latest ubuntu as well.
[13:07] <k1l_> no_gravity: there are two ubuntu versions each year, so only saying ubuntu 12 is confusing
[13:07] <alex__> hi,guys~
[13:07] <bazhang> no_gravity, mint's not supported here
[13:07] <k1l_> no_gravity: and ask the mint boys, what up with their hardware support. we here cant tell you that
[13:08] <alex__> if anyone can introduce a chinese input software?
[13:08] <no_gravity> bazhang: i didnt ask for mint support.
[13:08] <bazhang> ibus alex__
[13:08] <no_gravity> k1l_: i didnt ask.
[13:08] <alex__> sorry?
[13:08] <no_gravity> people who use one OS always go crazy when you mention another OS...
[13:08] <bazhang> no_gravity, you are asking for help, and say you will install mint. go to mintsupport
[13:09] <pitwalker> somebody can help me about an unity loading error?
[13:09] <bazhang> alex__, chinese input ---> ibus
[13:09] <no_gravity> bazhang: i asked for help with my ubuntu installation. i never asked for help with mint.
[13:09] <alex__> thanx~
[13:09] <Mydgro> hi
[13:10] <no_gravity> bazhang: the same happens when you mention ubuntu on #debian. everybody goes crazy... i use many OSes on my machines. so its hard to avoid mentioning that.
[13:11] <Mydgro> i want to install a .run file, but while the installation process when the program starts unpacking the files i get an error, that he cant unpack files, any ideas why?
[13:11] <bazhang> Mydgro, a run file of what
[13:12] <Mydgro> bazhang .run file
[13:12] <Mydgro> bazhang software
[13:12] <bazhang> Mydgro, yes, of what
[13:12] <bazhang> Mydgro, what software, the exact name
[13:12] <STMelon> yea because room on this server is douchebaggery, instead of linux joining together as one, they all split apart and treat other distros with vengeance
[13:12] <bazhang> STMelon, thats not called for. stay on topic
[13:13] <STMelon> be NICE IF YOU FUCKING UBUNTU MORONS GET RID OF THE AMAZON LENS IN 12.10
[13:13] <k1l> *sigh*
[13:13] <bazhang> which is easily removable
[13:13] <Mydgro> bazhang imag.run
[13:16] <Domincii> How do I boot an .iso from a usb? I've partitioned the usb drive into ntfs via gparted, I then extracted the .iso to the usb via archive manager and rebooted my computer, at the boot menu I chose the USB and then the screen was blank.
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> Domincii  you didnt need to partition the usb drive
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> Domincii  use unetbootin to put the bootable iso on the usb stick, then boot from it
[13:20] <Domincii> i have unetbootin
[13:20] <k1l> Domincii: and ntfs is the wrong format, too. try fat32 (which is standard)
[13:20] <Domincii> but it only lets me choose linux iso's
[13:20] <Domincii> im trying to boot windows
[13:20] <momin90909> hello everyone, i need your help
[13:20] <k1l> Domincii: it wont use windows
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> Domincii  that's not possible, further questions in ##windows
[13:20] <Kartagis> can a full URL be used as CNAME?
[13:21] <k1l> Domincii: ask the windows support how to make an windows boot stick. that is not a ubuntu issue
[13:21] <Domincii> thanks
[13:21] <Domincii> i thought because am currently using ubuntu i should ask here
[13:21] <LorSamPau_w> Domincii, which win version?
[13:21] <Domincii> 7
[13:21] <LorSamPau_w> Domincii, i think you forgot to check the "bootable" boxin gparted
[13:22] <Domincii> thanks i'll check
[13:22] <k1l> Domincii: you wont do this in ubuntu or with ubuntu tools. so ask the windows support
[13:22] <momin90909> I installed ubuntu, but i cannot get maximum screen resolution
[13:22] <LorSamPau_w> Domincii, and unetbootin won't work with windows iso... it's only for linux
[13:22] <k1l> momin90909: install the right video drivers?
[13:23] <momin90909> i have intel graphics display,
[13:23] <GDMooo> Hi! I'm sshing a computer...i need to start gnome there because i want to control it remotely...but starting gdm makes user selector screen appear...how can i start gdm directly to a user from terminal....is my question clear enough? sorry for my english :)
[13:23] <M1R4G3> momin90909> Which one?
[13:23] <bazhang> momin90909, what resolution were you expecting, and what do you currently get
[13:24] <mariou> Good morning everybody. How are you guys setting up sasl on ubuntu + postfix ive tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix but dont know where to set up the authentication passwords
[13:24] <momin90909> i used 1280*1024 on windows, but i get 1024*768 on ubuntu
[13:24] <Domincii> LorSamPau_w how do I make a disk bootable in gparted?
[13:25] <LorSamPau_w> Domincii, it's one of the checkboxes there
[13:25] <bazhang> Domincii, thats a windows issue. please take it to ##windows
[13:25] <Domincii> sorry bazhang, consider me gone
[13:25] <LorSamPau_w> bazhang, it's not a windows issue
[13:26] <npws_marc> so last night my hard drive had 14GB available.. now it has 0... is there some way i can find out what happened over night? (ubuntu server)
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> npws_marc  there's also #ubuntu-server
[13:26] <bazhang> LorSamPau_w, creating a bootable iso for windows? sure it is. he needs to use the windows tools.  ##windows is the place for that
[13:26] <LorSamPau_w> Domincii, it's one of the "flags", rightclick on the partition - flags - bootable
[13:26] <bazhang> momin90909, please tell us the card model
[13:26] <Domincii> done it, thanks a bunch, i'll try again
[13:27] <momin90909> card model is q965/963
[13:27] <momin90909> lcd is dell e177fp
[13:27] <momin90909> card is by intel
[13:27] <LorSamPau_w> bazhang, hi is trying to create bootable use in ubuntu... whats the iso is the other question
[13:27] <bazhang> momin90909, please pastebin the output of lspci
[13:27] <bazhang> !paste | momin90909
[13:28] <LorSamPau_w> *use=usb
[13:29] <momin90909> paste.ubuntu.com/1269246/
[13:30] <momin90909> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1269246/
[13:32] <momin90909> paste.ubuntu.com/1269246/
[13:35] <momin90909> is anyone here?
[13:36] <fidel_> momin90909: there is always someone reading .... just ask
[13:36] <fidel_> !ask | momin90909
[13:36] <bazhang> momin90909, still checking the forums on your card, patience
[13:37] <momin90909> i cant get maximum resolution of 1280*1024, i get maximum 1024*768. my lspci output is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1269246/
[13:38] <kolaracdn> does anyone know how to setup an active directory for ubuntu server 12.04
[13:39] <kolaracdn> does anyone know how to setup an active directory for ubuntu server 12.04
[13:39] <fidel_> !repeat | kolaracdn
[13:39] <bazhang> momin90909, I am checking the forums now. Please be Patient.
[13:40] <fidel_> kolaracdn: personaly i am not into AD that much ... but i can give you 1 possible keyword - samba 4
[13:40] <kolaracdn> so i can use this to sign onto a ubuntu domain through other computers running ubuntu
[13:40] <Guest30180> hello,every  one
[13:41] <bonno> hello..how can i make thunar to group windows on the panel of xfce?
[13:41] <Guest30180> hello
[13:41] <fidel_> !ask | Guest30180
[13:45] <bonno> Hello how can i configure Thunar so windows of the same kind group in one in the dock?
[13:46] <fidel_> bonno: i doubt that is a thunar option - my guess- its a dock/panel setting
[13:46] <HunterT> Hello, I am new to Linux Ubuntu but am already starting to learn the command-line and how to install / uninstall packages etc. Although, I like keeping my files/programs organized and Ubuntu's directory structure confuses me. Could someone please tell me what the main folder is where packages/programs are supposed to be (as the norm)
[13:46] <fidel_> as window-grouping is afaik not app-specific
[13:46] <fidel_> HunterT: do you know the 'which' cmd?
[13:47] <k1l> HunterT: just use the paket-managment to install programs. dont start fiddeling on yourself
[13:47] <HunterT> nope fidel_
[13:47] <HunterT> So use Synaptic Package Manager?
[13:47] <HunterT> where does it put most installed packages?
[13:47] <fidel_> HunterT: which firefox // as a example
[13:47] <k1l> !apt-get | HunterT
[13:47] <jeaton> anyone here not like unity?
[13:47] <HunterT> I use apt-get all of the time.. but lets say I want to install NetBeans.. what directory would you guys install it?
[13:48] <Guest87183> jeaton i don't.
[13:48] <m000gle> Is there any way to remove the message, in the Nautilus window, stating things like "This volume contains digital photos - Open Shotwell Photo Manager"?
[13:48] <jeaton> what do you use in replace of it?
[13:48] <fidel_> HunterT: as a sidenote - you really dont need to mess with that - trust in the lovely package-management - at the end there is not really a need to know where the executable of app XY is usualy
[13:48] <k1l> HunterT: its not the ubuntu way to download stuff from webpages and install it. its the ubuntu way to use the repos or PPAs
[13:48] <Guest87183> I tried Gnome3 but didn't work too well jeaton
[13:48] <HunterT> fidel_ thanks that makes me feel better, but what about programs like NetBeans that have to be manually downloaded and installed?
[13:48] <k1l> !notunity | jeaton
[13:49] <fidel_> HunterT: well thats specific to the app - but installing apps from outside official apps isnt that common as apt provides most apps anways
[13:49] <Guest87183> jeaton I use GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel".
[13:49] <HunterT> So the norm for Ubuntu is to just always download from repos or PPAs and let the tools automatically handle things.
[13:49] <HunterT> What IDE would you guys recommend using for Symfony 2 development?
[13:49] <k1l> HunterT: yes
[13:49] <fidel_> HunterT: from official sources is the normal case
[13:49] <jeaton> Guest87183, any problems with that?
[13:50] <HunterT> are there any that can be installed from apt-get
[13:50] <fidel_> !ppa | HunterT
[13:50] <HunterT> oh wow thanks
[13:50] <jeaton> i originally used gnome 3 and also had problems, so I went back to 10.04, but I'm in serious need of an upgrade
[13:50] <fidel_> HunterT: using ppa's isnt that officical - while it still provides an easy option on ubuntu systems to install additional packages from random sources via apt
[13:50] <somsip> HunterT: Netbeans may be worth looking at but I dont use it for Symfony myself.
[13:50] <BlueWolf> jeaton: What's the problem? :)
[13:51] <fidel_> HunterT: in case you are really new to ubuntu - it might make sense to install an additional linux system as virtual machine
[13:51] <HunterT> Got you thanks a lot. One last thing. As far as Java goes would you guys recommend getting OpenJRE from the package manager or downloading and installing the real version from oracle.
[13:51] <fidel_> this allows you to mess around without having some kind of starter-fear
[13:51] <HunterT> Yeah i use virtual box
[13:51] <HunterT> somsip what IDE do you use?
[13:51] <fidel_> hehe ok. sorry i cant help you in the java-speicifc section of your question. lets hope someone else can
[13:52] <HunterT> from what I understand NetBeans and Eclipse are the only good IDEs with symfony plugins
[13:52] <somsip> HunterT: given recent bug issues, openjde/jdk. Can;t say I've had any probs with it. And Netbeans, but I don't use Symfony so I'm not sure of the support for that
[13:52] <Guest87183> Guest87183 laggyness. it takes a good couple of seconds for the gnome window to appear. and the rest is just pure preference, do not like the dock style, and the zillion of ppa's you have to install for every applet, it used to be that with gnome panel, they come preloaded and a drag and drop will get applets onto your panel
[13:52] <fubar10> I'm browsing through http://ppa.launchpad.net/ and wanted to know how to add a ppa to my ubuntu server.
[13:52] <fidel_> HunterT: there is #netbeans in freenode as well . maybe interesting as well
[13:53] <fidel_> !ppa | fubar10
[13:53] <HunterT> yeah I might try it out. Thanks so much guys have a good one
[13:53] <fubar10> http://ppa.launchpad.net/nginx/stable/ubuntu/dists/ is where I'm at.
[13:53] <somsip> HunterT: last OT reply - the last I looked the repo version of netbeans was quite out of date. May have changed since. Heads up.
[13:53] <ShapeShifter499> ok need some more help
[13:53] <ShapeShifter499> how do I symlink or hardlink a directory?
[13:53] <BlueWolf> jeaton: What's your problem
[13:53] <fidel_> fubar10: the launchpad main page of each project offers informations on how to add a ppa
[13:54] <fidel_> fubar10: in short - there are several ways to add them - using gui or using cli as always
[13:54] <fidel_> fubar10: add-apt-repository is one option
[13:54] <Hatori> shapeshifter, ln -s not works?
[13:54] <ShapeShifter499> Hatori, no its not letting me
[13:55] <ShapeShifter499> Hatori, do I have to mkdir the other directory (the place I want the symlink pointing to)?
[13:55] <no_gravity> When installing Ubuntu 12.04 - is it possible to not boot into the live demo but to get a text based installer? Because here it hangs while booting. With a black screen. And i would like to see where it hangs.
[13:56] <teacher> hey
[13:56] <teacher> wazzup?
[13:56] <Hatori> shapeshifter499, ln was the way to make symlin/hardlink practically
[13:56] <teacher> -I have quit
[13:56] <teacher> quit wat?
[13:56] <teacher> smoking
[13:56] <fubar10> fidel_ , I sort-of have an understanding of that. However, I was following some guides and I think that they're out of date.
[13:56] <teacher> wattttt?///
[13:56] <teacher> lollll
[13:57] <narfnarfnarf> I'm trying to add-apt-repository a ppa but the command is stuck, nothing happens after I press enter...
[13:57] <teacher> watttt
[13:57] <teacher> well thats ur problem
[13:57] <Hatori> shapeshifter499, actually yes
[13:57] <momin90909> teacher    it is not general chatting group
[13:57] <teacher> then wat is it?
[13:58] <somsip> !support | teacher
[13:58] <Hatori> !ot | teacher
[13:58] <teacher> who are you whats ur name
[13:58] <teacher> wat am I doing here?
[13:58] <BlueWolf> teacher: This is support only
[13:58] <narfnarfnarf> How can I find out why add-apt-repository gets stuck?
[13:59] <teacher> wat support?
[13:59] <BlueWolf> teacher: If you carry on with the chatter your going to get kicked off
[13:59] <BlueWolf> teacher: Ubuntu support
[13:59] <teacher> I'M so confused..wat is this chat?/
[13:59] <ShapeShifter499> Hatori, oh I'm stupid *facepalm* I tried to create a symlink  "ln -s /foo /foo"  when it should have been "ln -s /foo /"
[13:59] <ShapeShifter499> lol
[13:59] <Hatori> narfnarfnarf, what you mean with stuck ? Something gets trouble ? error ?
[13:59] <fubar10> fidel_ , http://ppa.launchpad.net/nginx/stable/ubuntu/dists/ is where I'm at.
[13:59] <teacher> wats ubuntu?
[14:00] <ShapeShifter499> Hatori, thanks for the help
[14:00] <BlueWolf> teacher: http://www.ubuntu.com/
[14:00] <momin90909> it is an operating system like windows
[14:00] <ardchoille> teacher: please take the chatter to another channel, this is a support channel for Ubuntu
[14:00] <teacher> but wat r we talking about??
[14:00] <Hatori> shapeshifter499, thats common mistakes for new user in linux world :d
[14:00] <fidel_> teacher: please read the wikipedia article about ubuntu if you need details about the distri
[14:00] <fidel_> teacher: i doubt anyone inhere can resume that better
[14:00] <Sachiru> Anyone know of a way to get a Domain Controller up without using Windows?
[14:00] <teacher> u guys r too smart for me
[14:01] <BlueWolf> teacher: Stop being silly now
[14:01] <no_gravity> My machine hangs with a black screen when I try to boot the Ubuntu 12.04 CD (actually i burned it on a dvd). Any ideas?
[14:01] <teacher> i will get off when you tell me your name
[14:01] <Hatori> sachiru, yes, you can use samba
[14:01] <teacher> u cant tell me what to do
[14:01] <Sachiru> No, I mean full domain controller and active directory.
[14:01] <somsip> !ops | teacher is trolling
[14:01] <teacher> u cant kick me off
[14:01] <BlueWolf> teacher: Your going to be kicked off
[14:02] <momin90909> teacher:    u can go to other chat groups
[14:02] <teacher> wat did I do????/
[14:02] <KM0201> you're trolling
[14:02] <fidel_> teacher: this channel is offering ubuntu support-  nothing else
[14:02] <Hatori> sachiru, yes, samba can do that, with samba 4 you can build AD
[14:02] <Sachiru> So that I can designate FQDN to my clients, and so that I can use Observium.
[14:02] <momin90909> anyone having enough rights, plz kick teacher
[14:02] <Sachiru> Cool, thanks, that works.
[14:02] <Myrtti> teacher: get your act together. If you don't know what Ubuntu is, then this place is not for you.
[14:02] <somsip> momin90909: a call has already been put out though I admit this is really a trivial matter. Thanks Myrtti
[14:02] <teacher> ok I need some advice...How is a 71 in Ancient History
[14:02] <teacher> ?
[14:03] <Sachiru> !ops | Help, username "teacher" is being disruptive to the chat.
[14:03] <Pricey> Thanks Sachiru, we saw it :)
[14:03] <Guest87183> Guys please just ignore
[14:03] <Sachiru> Thanks.
[14:03] <craigbass1976> I'm going shopping for a laptop today.  Is there a list of what' sin stores now that works with ubuntu?  Wireless, video, and sound are pretty much all the "GOTCHAS" I've got to watch out for, right?
[14:03] <somsip> Guest87183: newbies don't always know how to and we get lots of newbies in here.
[14:03] <fidel_> thanks jrib
[14:03] <Sachiru> @Hatori: Could you please give me a link to the wiki detailing samba4's support for AD?
[14:04] <Guest87183> is there like a page where I can get all the helpful ! commands?
[14:04] <ardchoille> !hardware | craigbass1976 you can check the hardware page before buying:
[14:04] <somsip> !brain | Guest87183
[14:04] <Hatori> sachiru, i'm so forgotten, maybe this help you, wiki,samba.org  or wiki.samba4.org
[14:05] <NemoGalt> hi guys, is there an admin out there who might be so kind as to reset my password? Please? :)
[14:05] <jrib> NemoGalt: password for what?
[14:05] <Sachiru> Also, what's a good, easy-to-manage, GUI-based DNS server for Ubuntu? Just for ensuring that Samba4 and anything else requiring DNS for my network's internals works?
[14:05] <Sachiru> @Hatori thanks, saw it, got it.
[14:05] <NemoGalt> for logging into NickServ
[14:05] <ShapeShifter499> does it matter if I have lib32 and lib ?   will my system look in both places?    lib32 only appeared after using getlibs
[14:05] <jrib> NemoGalt: try #freenode
[14:05] <NemoGalt> ty
[14:05] <OerHeks> NemoGalt, join #freenode for reset irc oass help
[14:05] <Guest87183> !language
[14:06] <somsip> Guest87183: please test them in a private chat with the bot
[14:06] <Guest87183> cooool somsip, and when you know if the pipe | is applicable
[14:06] <Ririshi> Hey people (:
[14:07] <Hatori> sachiru,yes, samba4 need fqdn names to fully working ad,
[14:07] <fidel_> Guest87183: you can always use !whateverbot-command | nick or !whatever-bot-command | nick
[14:07] <ardchoille> Welcome back Ririshi
[14:07] <Ririshi> Can someone explain me what a bouncer is and how to use it?
[14:07] <somsip> Guest87183: IFAIK piping it just prefixes the ouput with the user's nick so it shows for their attention
[14:07] <Ririshi> thank you ardchoille (:
[14:07] <fidel_> Guest87183: pipe will output the cmd in the channel & > as query to the user
[14:07] <Hatori> sachiru, maybe some web based to administer them,and there are some gui too
[14:08] <Guest87183> fidel_ couldn't get more commandliny on this chat eh..
[14:08] <fidel_> Ririshi: a bnc is usualy an app which keeps on irc-commention permanently alive. you as user connent with your irc client to that bounce. which usualy runs on a 24h available server
[14:08] <fidel_> Ririshi: as a result - you/your session is always in the irc-chan you like
[14:09] <Ririshi> fidel_: cool! how do I get such a thing to work?
[14:09] <fidel_> Ririshi: in case you have access to a server - the combination: screen & irssi is a lovely small solution for that
[14:09] <momin90909> where can i get drivers for intel graphics
[14:09] <fidel_> Ririshi: as always- decide which app you want to use-  read its docs and install/setup it
[14:09] <ShapeShifter499> Hatori, do you know?
[14:09] <Hatori> sachiru, but maybe better you sit on cli mode ... A gui would consume your ram
[14:10] <ThinkT510> momin90909: they are in the kernel by default, you don't need to get them
[14:10] <Hatori> shapeshifter499, know what? Sorry,
[14:10] <ShapeShifter499> Hatori, does it matter if I have lib32 and lib ?   will my system look in both places?    lib32 only appeared after using getlibs
[14:10] <ShapeShifter499> that would be in /usr btw
[14:10] <Ririshi> fidel_: I'll search around a bit.
[14:11] <Hatori> shapeshifter499, i think that was not a problem
[14:11] <Ririshi> One more problem: always when using ', I have to press spacebar before it appears, or it appears on top of the next letter like this: ḿ ś í ḱ
[14:11] <Ririshi> Or it just doesn't appear..\
[14:11] <Hatori> shapeshifter499, look if it was symlink to each other
[14:11] <fidel_> Ririshi: my advice would be using 'screen' & 'irssi'. this results in a setup where you just  need an ssh shell and not a local irc-client at all
[14:12] <ShapeShifter499> Hatori, its not
[14:12] <Hatori> shapeshifter499, okey, like you said before, from getlibs
[14:12] <ardchoille> Is there an app that I can install that will send my system specs to Canonical to help improve Ubuntu?
[14:13] <Ririshi> fidel_: this results in a non-GUI setup?
[14:13] <fidel_> ardchoille: i think reporting bugs is a pretty good way to improve it. ubuntu-bug is a nice cmd for that. just as 1 option
[14:14] <Hatori> ardchoille, apport, bug reporting, and other mechanism are available,not spesific to ubuntu
[14:14] <ardchoille> fidel_ , Hatori , Thank you both :)
[14:14] <trapni> I want to authenticate PPP (PPTP) users against PAM (or LDAP directly) but it seems that Ubuntu does not have a package for it, or in what repository is it?
[14:14] <fidel_> Ririshi: in a terminal like irc-feeling - like the project page shows: http://www.irssi.org/themes
[14:15] <ardchoille> fidel_ , Hatori , There's also the System Testing app.. I just found it
[14:16] <Ririshi> fidel_: I really wouldn't like that >.<
[14:16] <fidel_> Ririshi: well then search for common bnc-apps ;)
[14:16] <Xethron> Greetings
[14:17] <Xethron> I need help getting my onboard 3G card working :/
[14:17] <craigbass1976> I've got a vostro 1000, and every time the kernel gets upgraded there are problems.  I can't remember what I did to fix it last time, and don't know as it would be anywhere in my history anyway (I did it from a live cd)
[14:17] <elaminato> How can I view the active Master boot record in 12.04?
[14:17] <craigbass1976> SOrry, I'm getting "vfs unable to mount root fs on unknown" messages during boot.  The older kernel is fine
[14:18] <Xethron> I can pick up 3G dongles. Tried it with two different dongles. works 100%. However, the built in modem on my laptop linux does not pick up at all
[14:18] <Ririshi> fidel_: hmm maybe I'd choose for screen and irssi tho
[14:18] <Xethron> Not in lspci or dmesg
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> elaminato  sudo fdisk -l shows a star under Boot
[14:19] <Ririshi> fidel_: nah I'll try it like this, first. I don't really need a bnc at this moment..
[14:19] <Ririshi> where do I find .desktop files? >.<
[14:20] <elaminato> MonkeyDust,  unfortunately there is no star under any of my hard disks :(
[14:20] <elaminato> i think I removed all of them in gparted. but i dont have any boot problems.
[14:20] <elaminato> But i need to know my active MBR because I want to install another distro
[14:21] <ujjain> I connected a new monitor to my PC, but it's not being recognized, it worked immediately with Windows
[14:21] <Ririshi> Wait nvm how can I change the icon that's used by .desktop files?
[14:22] <vale> hello, is there a way to allow an user (on ubuntu) to log in only at a prefixed time?
[14:22] <vale> e.g.: from 1 PM to 3 PM everyday
[14:22] <BluesKaj> ujjain, what kind of connection?
[14:22] <ujjain> DVI
[14:23] <ujjain> I used a VGA monitor before
[14:23] <ujjain> that one works fine
[14:23] <Guest87183> http://askubuntu.com/questions/68918/how-do-i-restrict-my-kids-computing-time vale
[14:23] <BluesKaj> from a pci graphics card , ujjain ?
[14:23] <ujjain> NVIDIA 8500GT.
[14:23] <ujjain> I am not sure, I think so yes
[14:24] <BluesKaj> ujjain, strange , I'm using 8400GS dvi to hdmi
[14:24] <ujjain> well, you might installed it that way
[14:24] <ujjain> I can access the console fine
[14:24] <ujjain> and I think the Ubutnu Live DVD would work too
[14:25] <vale> Guest87183, I'll take a look at that right after updating is completed, thank you!
[14:25] <somsip> vale: cronjob to usermod --expiredate 1 {user}?
[14:25] <BluesKaj> ok , then it's the graphics driver ujjain , are you at the TTY right now ?
[14:25] <Guest87183> vale lemme know how it works
[14:25] <ujjain> Yes, I use SSH from laptop, easier
[14:25] <ujjain> and the monitor is connected
[14:26] <vale> Guest87183, ok!
[14:26] <BluesKaj> ujjain, install nvidia-current , then sudo nvidia-xconfig , then reboot
[14:28] <ujjain> VALIDATION ERROR: Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[14:28] <ujjain>                   Device section "Default Device" must have a Driver line.
[14:31] <ujjain> BluesKaj, I did, the monitor does not get a signal.
[14:33] <ujjain> Pastebin of xorg.conf: http://pastebin.visilang.com/view/raw/160aed24
[14:35] <fankh> hi guys
[14:36] <fankh> i have one problem. my laptop lenovo s205 doesn't work wireless. is there anyone that have solution about it?
[14:36] <fluitfries> guys, what the heck is a "lxcbr0" interface on my laptop?  is it my not working wifi??
[14:36] <hoechts> hi, I'm using ubuntu without a password (within a virtual machine), how can I disable the gnome/unity authenticate dialog?
[14:37] <hoechts> when i pass an empty password (which is correct) the dialog tells me it is wrong
[14:38] <fidel_> hoechts: are you talking about the dialogs which prompt you to enter your pw - to gain sudo permissions? or the login dialog?
[14:38] <hoechts> fidel_, i tried to install compizeconfig settings manager with software
[14:38] <hoechts> fidel_, so its the prompt
[14:38] <Nine_09> I had some crashes using gnome 3, but imho it's far superior than unity. unity is not productive at all. at least for me.
[14:39] <fidel_> hoechts: installing software via apt or software-center needs a user account with sudo-permissioons. i dont know if such a pw is even allowed to be empty in the first place hoechts ...thats why i am asking
[14:40] <hoechts> fidel_, my account works without a password.. in unity login i can just click on "login" without a password and sudo su does not prompt me to prompt a password
[14:40] <hoechts> but the unity pw prompt is a problem for me
[14:40] <fidel_> hoechts: well im out then - not using unity here
[14:40] <hoechts> :/
[14:41] <fluitfries> guys, what the heck is a "lxcbr0" interface on my laptop?  is it my not working wifi??
[14:41] <lattera> what's the recommended app for ripping a cd to mp3?
[14:43] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping
[14:47] <fankh> is there someone have solution about lenovo s205 netbook wireless problem??? help me guys. :(
[14:47] <samuel_> hi i'm having some problems with ubuntu 10.04
[14:48] <samuel_> my network manager wont forget 2 network profiles
[14:49] <samuel_> when i look in the .gconf folder in my home folder, i find connection 3 (my connection) but 1 and 2 (the ones i wish to do away with) are not visible
[14:49] <samuel_> however whenever i switch my computer on it prefers network 2
[14:49] <samuel_> when i remove it from the network settings it reappears
[14:50] <samuel_> if i run gconf-editor as super user i can see connections 1 and 2 but not 3
[14:50] <samuel_> if i run it without super user it just shows 3
[14:52] <muh2000> i have a strange issue. it seems like there is a permanent reference to adobe-flash-$old-version. other browsers are using the newer plugin but firefox still uses the old one.
[14:53] <samuel_> muh2000 have you tried doing a "locate libflashplayerplugin.so" in the terminal
[14:53] <samuel_> and replace that with a new version of the file from the adobe website?
[14:53] <Fanshawe> Hello everyone. I'm looking for help with installing a package called 'input-wacom'. I need it for a graphics tablet, but I'm not sure whether I have enough space to compile it in the way that most guides recommend. Is there any way other way I can get my tablet working?
[14:53] <muh2000> samuel_: yes, no return value
[14:54] <samuel_> is the package for adobe flash installed?
[14:55] <samuel_> Fanshawe i dont know much about wacom tablets but hang on in there i'm sure someone about knows the answer to your question
[14:55] <Fanshawe> Thank you, samuel_, I'll be here
[14:56] <fidel_> isnt there aleady a wacom tablet option in the system-settings window?
[14:56] <muh2000> samuel_: "locate libflashp" gave me a few locations. i located the ones close to the releasedate of $old-version and removed the culprit.... working now, thnx for the hint :)
[14:56] <fidel_> at least that is available hear for me in 12.04 without installing any wacom-related software myself
[14:58] <Fanshawe> How do I access the system-settings window, fidel_? Terminal didn't find it, but is recommending I install 'systemsettings'?
[14:59] <fidel_> Fanshawe: good question - i dont know the real package name - nor does the ui states it. i can call it in gnome 3 via the mainmenu in the upper panel
[14:59] <fidel_> i really hate the fact that they do seperate between package-names and application-window-names ;)
[15:00] <fidel_> Fanshawe: gnome-control-center
[15:01] <Fanshawe> Thank you, fidel_! I'll look through tablet options on there...
[15:01] <fidel_> comes - as mentioned already with specific wacom options here
[15:01] <fidel_> good luck
[15:02] <fidel_> last time i used a wacom was on osx - so i cant help you further ...hope that was a good first step ;)
[15:03] <samuel_> anyone here know much about gconf editor and network manager??
[15:03] <Fanshawe> fidel_: The only option I have is Wacom Control panel, which I installed myself as 'wacom-utility'. The application doesn't recognise the tablet yet, unfortunately.
[15:04] <jonsan1910> someone can help me with a problem with the grub
[15:04] <jonsan1910> ?
[15:04] <fidel_> !ask | jonsan1910
[15:04] <fidel_> man i guess we could trigger that cmd all 10 minutes just randomly ;)
[15:06] <kenabara> je cherche un chat en francais please
[15:06] <jonsan1910> ok is a problem with the grub dont boot display Error: file not found grub rescue>
[15:06] <ThinkT510> !fr | kenabara
[15:06] <Fanshawe> ubottu is prepared for everything, huh?
[15:06] <Fanshawe> Quite.
[15:07] <ThinkT510> !grub2 | jonsan1910
[15:08] <jonsan1910> I tried with all that even with boot-repair disc but doesnt fix the problem
[15:08] <narfnarfnarf> I'm trying to add a 3rd party repo using "add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java". It waits for a long while, then I get an error message: that pycurl could not connect to host. Apt-get update etc works fine...
[15:09] <fidel_> !ppa | narfnarfnarf
[15:09] <fidel_> narfnarfnarf: i would ask in the related webupd8 post
[15:09] <veryape> !ppa-purge
[15:10] <Masta123> Hi everyone. I have VMWare Workstation 9 with an Ubuntu Virtual Machine. This morning some VMWare services no longer wanted to start, so I had to reinstall VMWare. Now VMWare works again, but my Ubuntu Virtual Machine no longer has network access. I checked the config and the VM is configured to use NAT as network adapter. If I do an ifconfig in Ubuntu it has an 192.168.228.137 IP address, but in the VMWare config I find 192.168.216
[15:11] <Masta123> So my question now is: should I fix this in my VMWare Config or in the Ubuntu config? (and how? :p )
[15:12] <pfifo> hi
[15:12] <pfifo> I just installed 'tovid' and when I try to run 'tovid gui' i get the error 'DEBUG: Missing script: 'todiscgui''
[15:12] <Romance> Masta123: you run ubuntu on vmware on ubuntu?
[15:14] <oiozo> how can i uninstall mono from my computer without uninstalling anything else?
[15:14] <Masta123> Romance: I run an Ubuntu VM on a Win7 OS
[15:14] <kenabara> Thank you for help
[15:14] <mnice> which package please brings glxinfo in ?
[15:14] <theadmin> !find glxinfo
[15:15] <mnice> thx
[15:15] <theadmin> mnice: mesa-utils it is
[15:15] <oiozo> !find mono
[15:15] <Romance> Masta123: try use Bridge maybe
[15:16] <magma> my computer crashed? how can I see the log?
[15:17] <mnice> theadmin: JFYI (in fedora and suse): # rpm -qf `which glxinfo`
[15:17] <mnice> freeglut-100529-8.1.2.x86_64
[15:17] <Romance> magma: somewhere in /var/log
[15:18] <theadmin> mnice: Heh, in Ubuntu it's "dpkg -S $(which glxinfo)"
[15:18] <theadmin> mnice: Or for packages that aren't installed yet, "apt-file find $(which glxinfo)"
[15:18] <magma> Romance, which file is it
[15:18] <mnice> theadmin: what's the way to check that via apt|dpkg utils ? similar like yum whatprovides \*bin/glxinfo or zypper wp $foo ?
[15:18] <theadmin> mnice: Um, just told you.
[15:19] <mnice> yeah .. thanks
[15:19] <Romance> magma: hmm i dont try `ls -l` it, maybe its kern.log , kernel crash or whatever.
[15:19] <oiozo> can i install these openSuse packages http://download.mono-project.com/archive/2.11.4/linux/x86/ on Ubuntu? i've tried installing them but i still can't use mono
[15:19] <theadmin> mnice: apt-file is not a default program though so you'll have to apt-get install that
[15:19] <ikonia> oiozo: no
[15:19] <fidel_> oiozo: general advice - dont mix packages from different distris
[15:20] <narfnarfnarf> fidel_: related webupd8 post? what's that?
[15:20] <theadmin> oiozo: sudo apt-get install mono-runtime
[15:20] <theadmin> oiozo: That should be enough to use mono
[15:20] <oiozo> theadmin: i need a newer version, i uninstalled this one
[15:20] <jonsan1910> someone know why this happen insmod linux display error: symbol not found: 'grub_efi_secure_boot'
[15:20] <theadmin> oiozo: Heh. Search for a PPA then
[15:20] <fidel_> narfnarfnarf: you are talking about a ppa (which usage is iusualy not supported inhere) from the webpage webupd8
[15:20] <fidel_> narfnarfnarf: so consult the ppa maintainer
[15:20] <plainhavoc_> Hi everyone, noob here on setting up a server
[15:21] <mnice> theadmin: thanks ... sure thing
[15:21] <oiozo> theadmin: ? how?
[15:21] <theadmin> oiozo: Google "mono ppa"
[15:21] <plainhavoc_> I just set static IP, and now there is no internet connection outside the system
[15:21] <dr_willis> !ppa | oiozo
[15:21] <cjae> have one of those older laptops with the slider activation wifi and bluetooth. lspci doesnt seem to show anything bt
[15:21] <Masta123> Thanks Romance, that seems to have helped! Are there any downsides I must keep in mind for using bridged instead of NAT?
[15:22] <cjae> andthe light is not on
[15:22] <oiozo> dr_willis: theadmin: i know what a ppa is, but i just can't find one for mono devel
[15:23] <theadmin> oiozo: "Mono is considered a "core framework" in Ubuntu, meaning it has many applications depending upon it (roughly 40 applications). Due to this, the chance of one of those applications breaking due to unexpected changes in their underlying framework is considered too high to risk an update. As a result, Mono cannot officially be backported in Ubuntu. " (from mono-project.com)
[15:23] <narfnarfnarf> I found the problem: ubuntu keyserver doesn't have the key, it seems :(
[15:23] <Romance> Masta123: http://vmfaq.com/entry/34/
[15:23] <oiozo> theadmin: how can i use a newer version "unofficially"?
[15:23] <theadmin> oiozo: PPAs. Or build from source.
[15:24] <oiozo> didn't find the ppa nor the sources
[15:24] <matjaz> I am having problems booting the 12.04 amd64 after the last upgrade (when grub2 was updated). System doesn't boot from root disk anymore and says "/dev/mapper/<name>-root does not exist" and drops to shell. Is this a known problem with a solution or is it only my local problem?
[15:24] <cjae> have one of those older laptops with the slider activation wifi and bluetooth. lspci doesnt seem to show anything bt   and the light is is not on either
[15:24] <pfifo> hi dr_willis
[15:25] <dr_willis> hello pfifo
[15:25] <lola> ein?
[15:25] <theadmin> oiozo: http://mono-project.com/Compiling_Mono_From_Tarball - the sources.
[15:25] <theadmin> oiozo: I don't find an official Mono PPA at all so I can't help with that.
[15:26] <theadmin> oiozo: Hm, it seems the link is dead :/
[15:26] <oiozo> theadmin: ye i found that, (http://www.go-mono.com/daily/) i think it's just down for now so i'll try at another time
[15:26] <doduc> ui dooi oi
[15:27] <delac> any way to install evince into custom location? ./configure --prefix= gives errors with some libraries...
[15:27] <ikonia> --prefix has nothing to do with libraries
[15:27] <ikonia> prefix is for the target - not the source
[15:28] <plainhavoc_> When changing from DHCP, and setting /etc/network/interfaces to static, and entering wanted IP, netmask, network, etc. and restarting, the requested IP is working, however firefox is not finding server. Do I need to enter specific DNS at /etc/network/interfaces since DHCP is no longer enabled?
[15:28] <delac> ikonia: so what was it that determined the installation location?
[15:29] <oiozo> theadmin: if i install a newer mono on --prefix=/home/me/local for instance; how can i make my application use the new mono and not the old one?
[15:29] <pfifo> plainhavoc_, yes
[15:29] <Fanshawe> What's the etiquette on asking questions again? I'm still stuck with this wacom tablet and could come back later.
[15:30] <Romance> oiozo: just type /home/me/local/mono maybe, or use a symlink
[15:30] <theadmin> oiozo: PATH="/home/me/local/bin:$PATH" in whatever profile you are sourcing.
[15:30] <plainhavoc_> Thank you pfifo, I will search for the correct syntax to enter
[15:30] <dr_willis> just ask and be patient  Fanshawe
[15:30] <Romance> #! she bang
[15:30] <diverdude>  I am trying to install php5-imageick and i get this error: http://bin.cakephp.org/view/1951148683 How do i resolve that?
[15:31] <oiozo> theadmin: Romance: so if my path is "before" in the PATH variable, then it will use the new version?
[15:31] <theadmin> oiozo: Pretty much
[15:31] <Fanshawe> Got it, dr_willis. I'll take a look around in the meantime...
[15:31] <ikonia> diverdude: that is not coming from an official ubuntu repo
[15:32] <ikonia> delac: --prefix determains where it will be installed
[15:32] <diverdude> ikonia: thats a ppa. because ubuntu 12.04 does not support php 5.4
[15:32] <oiozo> ok thanks, gtg
[15:32] <ikonia> delac: it's the prefix of the installation tree
[15:32] <ikonia> diverdude: ok, so contact the PPA maintainer
[15:33] <delac> ikonia: that's what I thought.  the error it gave is "can't install libpdfdocument.la to given directory" So there is some problem installing libraries to the custom location
[15:33] <diverdude> ikonia: arg...thats the problem with ubuntu :( its software support is quite small :(
[15:33] <ikonia> diverdude: it's software support is excellent, you're not using ubuntu's software, your using some random persons,
[15:33] <ikonia> delac: can you give me the exact error please.
[15:34] <diverdude> ikonia: because ubuntu does not have php 5.4
[15:34] <ikonia> diverdude: why would it ?
[15:34] <diverdude> ikonia: because its the php current version
[15:34] <ikonia> diverdude: what needs it
[15:34] <ikonia> !info php
[15:34] <diverdude> ikonia: its php5
[15:34] <iceroot> !info php5
[15:34] <diverdude> the packagename
[15:34] <ikonia> what's the current version in 12.04 ?
[15:35] <ikonia> ok, so its' 5.3.10 - a stable branch
[15:35] <diverdude> 5.3 or something old like that
[15:35] <ikonia> diverdude: what package needs 5.4 ?
[15:35] <delac> ikonia: libtool: install: error: cannot install `libpdfdocument.la' to a directory not ending in /usr/local/lib/evince/4/backends
[15:35] <ikonia> delac: that's interesting, where is your --prefix set
[15:36] <delac> ikonia: a folder under home directory
[15:36] <diverdude> ikonia: php5.4 codes is more efficient and clean, so thats why i use it
[15:36] <dawne_p> How do I open up xps files in Lucid?  Without Okular?  I'd read that evince does it, but it won't work on my box
[15:36] <ikonia> diverdude: right, well, ubuntu isn't sat on the bleeding edge, it's sat on the stable branch,
[15:37] <ikonia> diverdude: especially on the long term support releases.
[15:37] <ikonia> delac: sorry, I meant what did you set --prefix= to
[15:37] <delac> ikonia: /home/user/workshop/
[15:38] <lvyiwang> hello everyone
[15:38] <pdk> edubuntu 12.04. Used networkmanager during initial updates . Modified interfaces file , deleted files in Network-Manager/system-connections restarted network and now have no valid connections. Can any one help.
[15:38] <ikonia> delac: ok, did you set anything like --libdir or --sysconfdir
[15:38] <delac> ikonia: nope, just the prefix
[15:38] <ikonia> delac: so you did a configure --prefix, then a make, then a "make install" ?
[15:38] <delac> ikonia: yes
[15:38] <drsa2> problem with sound
[15:39] <drsa2> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1061583
[15:39] <diverdude> ikonia: http://serverfault.com/questions/407979/installing-php5-imagick-in-ubuntu-12-04-w-ondrej-packages-results-in-dependency
[15:39] <diverdude> ikonia: im not the only one with those requirements
[15:39] <ikonia> delac: interesting, I'd try two things (keep in mind I've not read the documentation on this software) I'd do a --libdir at configure time, I'd also try a make install DESTDIR=/blah/blah
[15:40] <drsa2> ny one
[15:40] <drsa2> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1061583
[15:40] <ikonia> diverdude: that doesn't make them any more compatible with ubuntu's well documented and known "stable branch" policy
[15:41] <delac> ikonia: ok, I'll try those. thanks
[15:41] <diverdude> ikonia: php5.4 was released february and IS stable
[15:41] <ikonia> delac: maybe worth checking the docs, I've not read them (keep in mind when following my suggestions)
[15:42] <xangua> !latest | diverdude
[15:42] <ikonia> diverdude: yes, but it was not released before the development cyclet of 12.04
[15:42] <ikonia> diverdude: so it was not a stable candidate
[15:42] <diverdude> ikonia: so it will never be supported in 5.04?
[15:42] <jonsan1910> someone know why this happen insmod linux display error: symbol not found: 'grub_efi_secure_boot'
[15:42] <diverdude> ehhm 12.04
[15:42] <ikonia> diverdude: doubtful
[15:43] <diverdude> ikonia: but why? its stable now
[15:43] <diverdude> ikonia: it can be repackaged
[15:43] <ikonia> diverdude: they don't update the root branch as it would require a lot of work and effort
[15:44] <ikonia> plus moving the target for people using that in production would not be fair
[15:44] <somsip> diverdude: you're either on a PPA to get it or you have this official line https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/+bug/948156
[15:44] <diverdude> somsip: i have a ppa already
[15:44] <ikonia> which doesn't work
[15:44] <somsip> diverdude: and the official line is....." No, and although I am not a Ubuntu PHP maintainer I have already explained why this won't happen in precise. "
[15:44] <diverdude> ikonia: yes, which does not work. i have fixed it however
[15:45] <ikonia> diverdude: great, problem solved
[15:45] <diverdude> ikonia: and it works, its just because a package is missing
[15:45] <diverdude> ikonia: so i had to get that from elsewhere
[15:45] <samuel_> anyone here know much about gconf editor and network manager??
[15:46] <chinneseproduct> bekks, ar u there friend and how does ur proceedings with ma LAMP installation
[15:46] <matjaz> There must be something wrong with the latest update of grub* on 12.04 amd64. If I put the package grub2-common on hold and do the apt-get upgrade, everything works/boots OK. If the package grub2-common (and related) is updated too, the system fails to boot with "/dev/mapper/<name>-root does not exist"  error.
[15:46] <ThinkT510> !u | chinneseproduct
[15:47] <bekks> chinneseproduct: I am there, and as I told you yesterday, you have to ask someone else because I am out of clues.
[15:47] <chinneseproduct> LAMP installation anyone with help am in need
[15:47] <chinneseproduct> okay bekks
[15:48] <ThinkT510> !lamp | chinneseproduct
[15:48] <chinneseproduct> ThinkT510, can  help me
[15:48] <ThinkT510> chinneseproduct: other than that factoid, no i can't
[15:49] <ikonia> chinneseproduct: READ the information you just got given
[15:49] <ikonia> chinneseproduct: if there is something you don't understand, just ask
[15:49] <bekks> ikonia: He did, yesterday already.
[15:49] <chinneseproduct> ThinkT510, may we proceed so that you can get my problem is
[15:49] <bekks> The current problem is to install the libapache2-php5-mod-whatever-package
[15:49] <chinneseproduct> ikonia, i have a problem  during installation
[15:49] <ikonia> chinneseproduct: ok, what's the issue
[15:50] <ThinkT510> chinneseproduct: i've never set up a lamp setup, so i'm not going to be much help
[15:50] <chinneseproduct> LAMP installation
[15:50] <ikonia> yes, what's the issue with it
[15:50] <chinneseproduct> LAMP installation ThinkT510
[15:50] <chinneseproduct> it fails to install  ikonia
[15:50] <ikonia> ok, can you give me the error
[15:51] <gbz> in org.gnome.desktop.thumbnailers the disable all setting says Set to true to disable all external thumbnailer programs, independent on whether they are independently disabled/enabled.
[15:51] <chinneseproduct> okay ThinkT510
[15:51] <bekks> chinneseproduct: Provide the error as I told you yesterday please
[15:51] <chinneseproduct> okay bekks
[15:51] <gbz> is it possible to disable all thumbnailers?
[15:51] <gbz> that setting doesnt work
[15:51] <servaas> xubuntu 12.10 high cpu load for mountall --daemon, gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor, any idea to fix that the xubuntu-devel was silent about it
[15:52] <ikonia> servaas: #ubuntu+1 is the correct channel
[15:52] <ThinkT510> servaas: #ubuntu+1
[15:52] <servaas> ok ikonia
[15:52] <chinneseproduct> ikonia, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268118/
[15:53] <ikonia> !info apache2-mpm-prefork
[15:53] <chinneseproduct> ikonia, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268126/
[15:53] <Domincii> I've got a 1Tb HDD mounted to /home and need to partition at least half of it to a new file system in order to install Windows, I can't seem to unmount it though, little help?
[15:53] <chinneseproduct> ikonia, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268106/
[15:53] <bekks> ikonia: Yes, and the package 2.2.22-1ubuntu1.1 is an official update package from the repos, but fails to resolve dependencies correctly.
[15:54] <bekks> ikonia: Thats where we got stuck yesterday.
[15:54] <chinneseproduct> ikonia, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268086/
[15:54] <ikonia> chinneseproduct: ok - so please do a "sudo apt-get update" please.
[15:54] <chinneseproduct> ikonia, okay let me make it
[15:55] <gbz> can someone help me ?!
[15:55] <stonewall> Whats your problem?
[15:55] <gbz> in org.gnome.desktop.thumbnailers the disable all setting says Set to true to disable all external thumbnailer programs, independent on whether they are independently disabled/enabled.
[15:55] <gbz> is it possible to disable all thumbnailers?
[15:55] <gbz> that setting doesnt work
[15:55] <gbz> stonewall: ^
[15:56] <chinneseproduct> ikonia, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1269479/
[15:56] <Domincii> Anyone who can help with my mounting problem?
[15:56] <stonewall> I'm sorry, I am unfamiliar with the gnome environment as a whole. Hopefully someone else can be of more assistance.
[15:58] <ikonia> chinneseproduct: I think your repo is either in a broken state, or your running of cache
[15:58] <ikonia> chinneseproduct: please do "sudo apt-get install apache2.2-common"
[15:58] <DaemonicApathy> Domincii, are you going through the Disk Manager?
[15:58] <ikonia> chinneseproduct: please also eject your CDROM
[15:58] <ardchoille> ikonia: he previously had the proposed repos enabled, I helped him disable it
[15:59] <Domincii> DaemonicApathy, I'm using GParted
[15:59] <ikonia> ardchoille: thanks,
[15:59] <ardchoille> yw
[15:59] <ikonia> ardchoille: I wasn't sure if when you put the CD back if it gets re-added
[15:59] <ardchoille> ah
[15:59] <delac> ikonia: --libdir or DESTDIR didn't help, but it's good idea to do "make distclean" time to time ;)
[15:59] <chinneseproduct> ikonia, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1269486/
[15:59] <DaemonicApathy> I'm not sure if it being mounted to /home would be getting in your way, but you could try th Ubuntu Disk Utility, command "palimpsest".
[16:00] <ikonia> chinneseproduct: ok, so that's already installed, which is probably what's making the conflict
[16:00] <ikonia> chinneseproduct: can you please do "dpkg -l | grep apache2"
[16:01] <Domincii> daemonicapathy I'm being told Daemon is inhibited
[16:01] <chinneseproduct> ikonia, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1269488/
[16:02] <ikonia> chinneseproduct: ok - so you already have those products installed
[16:02] <ikonia> I'm guessing your packages are out of sync with the cache
[16:03] <TheLordOfTime> an update of grub2 (update, not system upgrade) wouldn't prompt you for where to install it, would it?
[16:03] <ikonia> I'd suggest removing those apache packages, clearing the cache and trying again
[16:03] <chinneseproduct> ikonia, that is only apache what about mysql and php
[16:03] <ikonia> chinneseproduct: one thing at a time
[16:03] <[twisti]> hello, i have not touched or read about samba in roughly ten years or so. is it today a matured server you guys would recommend for a group of mixed windows users ? or is it stilly a hacky piece of crap best forgotten about in lieu of more mature things like ftp ?
[16:03] <DaemonicApathy> Domincii, usually a reboot fixes that.
[16:04] <Domincii> DaemonicApathy, as in just rebooting my computer??
[16:05] <Buttcher> Hey #ubuntu - I'm trying to make an internet kiosk, I've got almost everything down but I can't get chromium to open how I'd like it to - I would like it to be fullscreen, and I can't be able to close the browser. Does anyone here know how to do that?
[16:05] <DaemonicApathy> Right. But, for a less extreme measure, you could try "sudo umount /dev/<your hdd>" with the appropriate substitution for <your hdd>.
[16:06] <TheLordOfTime> Buttcher, run a modified version of the software?  I don't think you can eliminate the ability to exit the program entirely...  at least not easily
[16:06] <chinneseproduct> ikonia, am witing for you
[16:06] <TheLordOfTime> chinneseproduct, ikonia> I'd suggest removing those apache packages, clearing the cache and trying again  <--
[16:06] <chinneseproduct> okay ikonia
[16:06] <TheLordOfTime> i think ikonia's waiting for you to do that, chinneseproduct...
[16:07] <EweR> how to fix "sudo: must be setuid root" error on vps, without reinstalling ubuntu?
[16:07] <chinneseproduct> TheLordOfTime, why do i have to remove the apache package
[16:07] <TheLordOfTime> chinneseproduct, ask ikonia, that's what ikonia suggested
[16:07] <TheLordOfTime> chinneseproduct, i an an nginx user, not apache :P
[16:08] <ardchoille> also: <ikonia> chinneseproduct: ok, so that's already installed, which is probably what's making the conflict
[16:08] <chinneseproduct> TheLordOfTime, where is ikonia  recommendation for me to remove the packages
[16:09] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: 5 minutes ago
[16:09] <TheLordOfTime> chinneseproduct, i think reading your scrollbacks might be a good idea :P
[16:09] <Domincii> I'm getting the message http://paste.ubuntu.com/1269504/
[16:10] <ritz> hi, How do I build a src deb pkg, with patches . src deb -> patch applied -> debian rules -> build stops
[16:10] <chinneseproduct> TheLordOfTime,  just be straight  why do i have scrollback
[16:10] <ritz> something akin to rpmbuild -bp
[16:10] <DaemonicApathy> Domincii, did you not sudo?
[16:10]  * TheLordOfTime goes off to do something productive, like debugging his php5 instance
[16:10] <chinneseproduct> TheLordOfTime, if you know what to help me be open and not as done before
[16:11] <ardchoille> !packaging | ritz
[16:11] <DaemonicApathy> Buttcher: You can disable the menu buttons and Alt+F4 pretty easily, but beyond that, I don't know.
[16:11] <Domincii> daemonicapathy should I be trying to open the disk manager as sudo from terminal??
[16:11] <ritz> ardchoille, thanks
[16:11] <ardchoille> yw
[16:11] <TheLordOfTime> chinneseproduct, i was being kind, giving you the scrollbacks of what ikonia said.  there's a *reason* scrollbacks exist.  ikonia gave you a suggested method, and a suggested possible cause, such that packages may have already been installed which therefore break things.  uninstalling, updating the apt data, and then reinstalling might fix it
[16:12] <DaemonicApathy> Domincii, "sudo umount dev/<your device here>" would be run from a terminal.
[16:12] <Domincii> ok
[16:12] <chinneseproduct> TheLordOfTime, and the problem in ikonia comment  wasnt mentioned me in that post
[16:12] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: did you remove those apache packages, clear your cache and try again as ikonia suggested?
[16:12] <TheLordOfTime> chinneseproduct, so in a sense, reiterating what ikonia said, whether i copy-paste scrollbacks or not, is actually trying to help
[16:12] <TheLordOfTime> chinneseproduct, that's not our problem?
[16:12] <DaemonicApathy> Domincii: *sudo umount /dev/<your device>"
[16:13] <DaemonicApathy> Ignore asterisk and quote
[16:13] <vale> hi everyone, I've just installe ubuntu 12.04 32bit and I can't activate th driver for the ethernet, because the system tries to download the drivers
[16:14] <Romance> dont we need a /mnt/<device> there ? oh maybe its just for mount, not umount
[16:14] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille, soory can i have the commmand for sync cache
[16:14] <vale> the odd thing is that when I tried ubuntu live the connection worked perfectly, but now it doesn't
[16:14] <TheLordOfTime> Romance, every device on your system, usually, will have a /dev/ entry unless its an nfs share or something weird like that.
[16:14] <TheLordOfTime> usually.
[16:14] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: did you remove those apache packages?
[16:14] <Domincii> daemonicapathy, it said the device isn't mounted
[16:15] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille, soory give the command
[16:15] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: I don't know which packages you need to remove. What did ikonia say?
[16:15] <DaemonicApathy> Did you put the correct substitution for <your device>? e.g., to unmount my hard drive, it would be "sudo umount /dev/sda1"
[16:15] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille, i think its sudo apt-remove apache
[16:15] <ikonia> sorry - just on the phone
[16:16]  * ardchoille would have just reinstalled ubuntu by now and solved the whole issue
[16:16] <Domincii> daemonicapathy, according to terminal http://paste.ubuntu.com/1269515/
[16:17] <ArcaneWater> Hey wilee-nilee you there?
[16:17] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille, see the ikonia msg " I'm guessing your packages are out of sync with the cache"
[16:17] <mrkuchbhi> hi...i am having probs  with settinp up monitors in a particular orientation..i have a laptop and another monitor is oriented on top of it...prob is that windows opened up on the laptop hide under the main menu
[16:17] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille,  he didnt specify  which package
[16:18] <DaemonicApathy> Domincii: Ah. In that case, you may have to do this all from an account that isn't depending on it as a home folder. The only other option would be to unmount with the -l flag, and I think that would cause problems here.
[16:18] <ardchoille> chinneseproduct: I feel you need to learn to utilize your scrollback <ikonia> I'd suggest removing those apache packages, clearing the cache and trying again
[16:18] <mrkuchbhi> i.e. main menu overlaps with the windows ...so im unable to see the entire window on my laptop screen
[16:19] <Domincii> daemonicapathy, I only have one account, should I create a new one to do this?
[16:19] <vale> anybody got a hint for my internet issue?
[16:19] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille, may you please help me how to clear the cache
[16:19] <DaemonicApathy> A guest account or Live session should be good enough, Domincii.
[16:19] <Domincii> daemonicapathy, thanks for all your help, you've been marvellous
[16:20] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille, command for cache clearing
[16:21] <TheLordOfTime> chinneseproduct, did you uninstall the apache packages first?
[16:21] <hippiehoorah> .
[16:21] <chinneseproduct> TheLordOfTime, nop
[16:21] <chinneseproduct> TheLordOfTime, i didn't
[16:22] <TheLordOfTime> chinneseproduct, you need to do that first, otherwise the older package data won't be cleared when you update the cache.
[16:22] <TheLordOfTime> chinneseproduct, then you need to clear the apt cache, and then update apt again
[16:22] <TheLordOfTime> chinneseproduct, otherwise it'll not do squat.
[16:22] <mrkuchbhi> hi...i am having probs  with settinp up monitors in a particular orientation..i have a laptop and another monitor is oriented on top of it...prob is that windows opened up on the laptop hide under the main menu ..i.e. main menu overlaps with the windows ...so im unable to see the entire window on my laptop screen..how could I resolve this?
[16:23] <mrkuchbhi> im using ubuntu 10.04
[16:23] <Domincii> daemonicapathy, the hdd appears to be the default /home location for all users
[16:23] <chinneseproduct> TheLordOfTime, i think you and ardchoille there is a difference with what you are telling me
[16:24] <TheLordOfTime> not really...
[16:24] <TheLordOfTime> we're reiterating what ikonia said
[16:24] <TheLordOfTime> but if you don't want to fix the issue...
[16:24]  * TheLordOfTime returns to dissecting php5's code
[16:25] <chinneseproduct> TheLordOfTime, ardchoille tells me that to clear the cache and you u tell me to remove the package  first and then cache
[16:25] <TheLordOfTime> chinneseproduct, clearing the cache is the same thing, though.  and if you read the scrollbacks, ikonia suggested removing the packages as well
[16:25] <anderz> are the amazon adds on by default?
[16:25] <chinneseproduct> TheLordOfTime, which one of can i follow
[16:26] <gordonjcp> anderz: in 12.10?
[16:26] <gordonjcp> anderz: yes, but that's a topic for #ubuntu+1
[16:26] <chinneseproduct> okay TheLordOfTime  can have the command for removing whole package
[16:26] <Phaba> i have some development libraries in c, where or how to i install them? so i dont have to point my compiler at them or have the header files in the same subdirectory as source
[16:27] <TheLordOfTime> chinneseproduct, i have to head to a dev meeting for a project I am on, i don't have the extra 12 minutes to give you the full command, and i'm actually late for that meeting :p
[16:27]  * TheLordOfTime runs
[16:27] <gordonjcp> Phaba: they should generally come with some means of building and installing them
[16:27] <gordonjcp> Phaba: what are they?
[16:28] <chinneseproduct> TheLordOfTime, am gonna wait for you till the next time cuz i don wanna want to mix up this maater
[16:28] <ikonia> chinneseproduct: looks up apt-get remove
[16:28] <Phaba> some have make files indeed, but even then they are in my Downlaods folder, i have one specifically untarred called CLmg which is for image processing but it has no make or config file or shell script
[16:28] <Phaba> just the header file
[16:29] <chinneseproduct> ikonia, am i correct sudo apt-remove apache2
[16:29] <ikonia> no
[16:29] <ikonia> I won't respond again as you don't seem to read anything I write
[16:29] <Romance> hehe
[16:30] <Phaba> also i DLed the openvas code and to compile required another 20 or so libraries, is there any easier way of getting hold of and installing these libs and i presume ubuntu comes pre-installed with them
[16:30] <Phaba> such as
[16:30] <Rochford77> hey all, hope someone can help im having issues installing ubuntu. ive had it on my machine before, through WUBI. but id like to have a hard install on my HDD. so here is the deal. i had just set up a dual boot of Win7 and Win8 CP. i did this by: booting win7, start, right click my computer, manage, storage, disk managment, shrink c (win7, default), format unallocated space, and installing windows 8 on the "new" drive/partition. i got over windows 8 r
[16:30] <chinneseproduct> ikonia,  sorry  amfollowing you but others mixup me
[16:30] <gordonjcp> Phaba: what does "apt-cache search openvas" tell you?
[16:30] <Phaba> libssh, openssl, zlib, tcpdump etc
[16:31] <api984> hello
[16:32] <api984> did anyone succeed to make skystar2 s2 work on 10.04 LTS? flexcop 2,3 chip
[16:32] <Phaba> gordonjcp, http://pastebin.com/Fxe8RCT9
[16:32] <ardchoille> ikonia: welcome to the club :(
[16:32] <gordonjcp> Phaba: so is that what you're looking for?
[16:32] <ikonia> ardchoille: I was only half following as I was on the phone
[16:32] <chinneseproduct> ikonia, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1269549/
[16:32] <ikonia> chinneseproduct: I'm not interested
[16:33] <Rochford77> is this working? lol
[16:33] <ardchoille> ikonia: don't feel bad, several of us have been trying for two days to help him
[16:33] <Phaba> no i wanted to compile from source, and i have the source and all the extended libs needed
[16:33] <ikonia> Rochford77: yes, we can see you
[16:33] <gordonjcp> Phaba: are you aware of "apt-get build-dep" ?
[16:33] <Phaba> but, when trying to compile it complained about the libs which i presumed i should already have
[16:33] <Phaba> gordonjcp, no :P
[16:33] <gordonjcp> Phaba: that will get the build dependencies
[16:33] <Phaba> gordonjcp, ive just been using config and makefile
[16:34] <chinneseproduct> ikonia its an output of this apt-get remove
[16:34] <gordonjcp> Phaba: now if you're rolling your own from source, it may not be exactly right
[16:34] <Phaba> GODAMN
[16:34] <gordonjcp> but it's a good start
[16:34] <Rochford77> cool! this is my first time on IRC can anyone help me with my issue getting a dual boot set up? noob i kno :-(
[16:34] <Phaba> thanks a load
[16:34] <gordonjcp> Phaba: :-D
[16:34] <ikonia> chinneseproduct: I'm not interested
[16:34] <gordonjcp> Phaba: does that speed things up?
[16:34] <Silight> Just installed Ubuntu for the first time, or at least tried to, I'm getting what looks like a command line os instead of the promised beautiful GUI. Also, I see you Rochford
[16:34] <gordonjcp> Silight: did you install the server version, or something?
[16:35] <ardchoille> Silight: are you getting a blinking cursor in the upper right and nothing else?
[16:35] <chinneseproduct> ikonia, am sorry  for that brother am lying down your knees sorry  brother  need  a help for that
[16:35] <Silight> I don't think so. I downloaded the AMD alternative
[16:35] <gordonjcp> Silight: the alternate installer uses a text-mode installer
[16:35] <gordonjcp> Silight: so you may be seeing that
[16:36] <Silight> So, I got the wrong thing? What should I have downloaded?
[16:36] <Phaba> gordonjcp, in the screenshot, should most of these libs already exist in ubuntu? i was kinda thinking it may have been my own setup
[16:36] <Phaba> http://postimage.org/image/4qailsvm1/
[16:37] <ardchoille> Silight: are you getting a blinking cursor in the upper right and nothing else?
[16:37] <gordonjcp> Phaba: yeah probably, maybe not those exact versions though
[16:37] <ArcaneWater> Hello, can someone help me i am going to reinstall my os first i will installed Windows 7 and after thath i will install ubuntu for dual boot, any recommendations how to partiton disc at Windows setup to it will be good for ubuntu?
[16:37] <chinneseproduct> ikonia, am asking apology brother  i wont do it again  cuz TheLordOfTime  was mixing me
[16:37] <ikonia> chinneseproduct: I'm sorry, no
[16:37] <Silight> Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS ubuntu ttyl Then ubuntu login.
[16:37] <Phaba> i dont think it was asking for exact versions, i was trying to compile from my home directory if that makes anything different
[16:37] <bazhang> chinneseproduct, stop targeting users. ask your question every 10-15 minutes
[16:38] <gordonjcp> !partition | ArcaneWater
[16:38] <ikonia> ArcaneWater: default windows partition, just don't allocate the whole disk
[16:38] <us32> Arcane: how big is your hdd?
[16:38] <ArcaneWater> us32 1tb
[16:38] <chinneseproduct> ikonia, so how can develop from linux if you are grounding  me
[16:39] <xibalba> freebsd > ubuntu
[16:39]  * xibalba started the flame war
[16:39] <ikonia> chinneseproduct: just ask the channel for help with your issue
[16:39] <ikonia> no other discussion is needed
[16:39] <ikonia> xibalba: please do'nt be silly
[16:39] <xibalba> =P
[16:39] <bazhang> xibalba, wrong place
[16:40] <xibalba> come on, everyone needs a little sillyness in the morning
[16:40] <ikonia> no
[16:40] <Rochford77> hope someone can help im having issues installing ubuntu. ive had it on my machine before, through WUBI...uninstalled now. but id like to have a hard install on my HDD. so here is the deal....
[16:40] <bazhang> !helpme | chinneseproduct
[16:40] <xibalba> ikonia, lighten up
[16:40] <ArcaneWater> So i just make 1 partition for windows? And after thath i change for ubuntu?
[16:40] <Rochford77>  i had just set up a dual boot of Win7 and Win8 CP. i did this by: booting win7, start, right click my computer, manage, storage, disk managment, shrink c (win7, default), format unallocated space, and installing windows 8 on the "new" drive/partition. i got over windows 8 real quick, so i uninstalled it by going back to windows 7, deleting the "windows 8" partition, and expanding the c drive again to utilize the space once more.
[16:40] <bazhang> xibalba, wrong place stop it
[16:40] <Rochford77> My issue is, now that windows 8 is gone, when i boot to my ubuntu disk it displays "boot along side WINDOWS 8, replace windows 8, or advanced options" im afraid if i "boot alongside windows 8" i will loose all my "windows 7" data. can anyone confirm/deny this? im not sure why it thinks my windows 7 is windows 8...
[16:40] <ikonia> xibalba: follow the channels guidelines please, it's a support channel, not a joke channel, or a place to try to get a flame war going, (please)
[16:40] <chinneseproduct> ikonia, i have been here in xchat channel since for days ago insearch of solution my LAMP installation
[16:40] <xibalba> ikonia, bazhang, you guys must be old grump farts
[16:41] <us32> arcanewater: I would recommend to create part. before installing windows
[16:41] <ikonia> chinneseproduct: I understand that
[16:41] <bazhang> !ot | xibalba
[16:41] <ArcaneWater> us32 with gparted or what?
[16:42] <gordonjcp> xibalba: it's not morning, so pack it in with the sillyness
[16:42] <wilee-nilee> Rochford77, Windows installs if not put in prebuilt partitions make boot partitions and intertwine their boot files, you may have to try the ##windows channel.
[16:42] <gordonjcp> xibalba: it's also !o4o too
[16:42] <chinneseproduct> ikonia, so i promise that i will follow what you tell me from now and  i wont follow what others tell me
[16:42] <ikonia> chinneseproduct: just ask the channel
[16:42] <bazhang> chinneseproduct, stop targeting users. as k the channel every 10-15 minutes
[16:42] <chinneseproduct> ikonia, calm down brother
[16:43] <gordonjcp> aye well
[16:43] <us32> Yeah, I got 750 "Store....for music etc..", 50 GB for Linux OS and 200 for windows
[16:44] <Rochford77> hmmm...thanks!
[16:44] <wilee-nilee> Rochford77, Best thing here would be to run the bootscript and post it otherwise we are guessing.
[16:45] <wilee-nilee> http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[16:46] <Rochford77> wilee: how?
[16:46] <Rochford77> (12:45:24 PM) wilee-nilee: http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ thanks!
[16:46] <wilee-nilee> Rochford77, Chances are if you had W7 then installed W8 W8 was controlling both windows boots, kind of a mess to be honest when you remove w8.  THe bootsvript is run from ubuntu install or a live cd.
[16:47] <Rochford77> willee: yes i think you are correct. windows 8 was controlling the boot of both before. i fugured that was gone now :-(
[16:47] <xev_web> Hi, can I get my data back from ext4 partition after delete the partition table and create a new ntfs partition from the same disk?
[16:48] <newbie|1> Stupid question ... Aside from Shotwell, there is another program to recover pictures from a memory card, but I can't find it.  What is the name of the other program?
[16:48] <chinneseproduct> xev_web, sudo su
[16:48] <wilee-nilee> Rochford77, I would run that script and post it in a thread at the ubuntu forums, I used to volunteer in this area there, that is probably your best help in this sort of issue.
[16:48] <ardchoille> Newb101: gthumb has an import feature
[16:48] <Gabarus> Also a stupid question, how much progress has been made getting Ubuntu to play nicely with tablet PC's?
[16:48] <Rochford77> ok!
[16:49] <chinneseproduct> xev_web, then sudo testdisk
[16:49] <ardchoille> newbie|1:  gthumb has an import feature
[16:49] <newbie|1> ardchoille: I'm thinking of a specific program - didn't know about gthumb
[16:49] <newbie|1> I was thinking of Gimp, but I'm sure it isn't the program I'm looking for
[16:50] <ardchoille> newbie|1: gthumb pops up a msgbox when I plug in my usb key (full of pictures)
[16:50] <ardchoille> no, gimp would be way overkill for that
[16:50] <newbie|1> ardchoille: I am trying to recover from a SD card
[16:50] <wilee-nilee> Rochford77, This channel is excellent but a mixed up boot in windows even using grub is a bit of a stretch as far as getting knowledgeable help. Even the windows channel might be sketchy due to the cross bootloaders.
[16:50] <xev_web> chinneseproduct: it's possible to get my data back? from old ext4 partition?
[16:50] <chinneseproduct> ardchoille, may you trying to ask  apology to ikonia that wasnt my aim
[16:50] <ardchoille> newbie|1: mass memory is mass memory, be it SD, usb of CF.. etc.
[16:51] <chinneseproduct> xev_web, possible withe command i give try them
[16:51] <bazhang> chinneseproduct, move on.
[16:51] <ArcaneWater> wilee-nilee i found what is wrong :D
[16:51] <newbie|1> ardchoille: Thanks, I'll look into that
[16:51] <gordonjcp> newbie|1: make a copy of the whole card with dd
[16:51] <wilee-nilee> ArcaneWater, I forget the issue.
[16:51] <newbie|1> gordonjcp: I'll see what I can do
[16:51] <newbie|1> thx everyone
[16:51] <gordonjcp> newbie|1: something like "sudo dd if=/dev/sdc of=myknackeredcard.dsk bs=4M"
[16:51] <chinneseproduct> bazhang, i have a problem with LAMP installation
[16:51] <ArcaneWater> wilee-nilee yesterday problems with grub because its not showing me Windows 7
[16:51] <gordonjcp> newbie|1: if = "Input File" and should be the path to the whole device
[16:52] <gordonjcp> aw, gone
[16:52] <wilee-nilee> ArcaneWater, cool what was it, besides the GPT?
[16:52] <bazhang> chinneseproduct, address the channel, not me. re ask every 10-15 minutes
[16:52] <xev_web> chinneseproduct: ty
[16:52] <chinneseproduct> bazhang, okay
[16:52] <chinneseproduct> xev_web, ty what does it mean
[16:52] <ArcaneWater> wilee-nilee i messed it with install, i should do it difrren since i have one thing called UEFI, and i need to preform diffrent installation.
[16:53] <Silight> I think I have enough info to ask the right questions now. Thanks guys
[16:53] <wilee-nilee> ArcaneWater, I new it had to be a specific type install, but not having experience here I was hesitant to advise, I don't want to brick anothers setup.
[16:54] <Kireji> I can do "apt-cache search foo" to search for all packages with foo in them, once I find one I'm interested, foo123, how do I get more detailed description and details on package foo123 from the command line?
[16:54] <ArcaneWater> wilee-nilee can you recommend me how should i now partiton my 1 tb disc? For both windows and ubuntu? I am going to do fresh install now.
[16:55] <Kireji> apt-cache show foo123  <- solution
[16:55] <chinneseproduct> ikonia, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1269581/
[16:56] <wilee-nilee> ArcaneWater, Personally since I only use my W7 setup for just a few things I put it in a small partition, big enough though, and ubuntu the same, and have a shared NTFS for both the read and write to to exchange media....etc.
[16:56] <xev_web> chinneseproduct: testdisk: command not found
[16:56] <wilee-nilee> the=a
[16:57] <wilee-nilee> ArcaneWater, I keep my OS in small partition, but big enough so I can clone them for any future problems.
[16:59] <ArcaneWater> wilee-nilee and what about others for swap etc?
[16:59] <wilee-nilee> ArcaneWater, for example on a 160 gig HD I have 4 OS the W7 in a 40 gig and the others since they are linux a bit smaller and a NTFS to share with the W& and linux install 4 partitions, the ntfs for windows and share are primary partitions the other 3 are logicals in a extended.
[16:59] <gordonjcp> wilee-nilee: be really careful sharing NTFS partitions with Linux
[17:00] <M1R4G3> yeah you're right
[17:00] <gordonjcp> wilee-nilee: the lack of case sensitivity will cause some deeply strange things to happen when you least expect it
[17:00] <wilee-nilee> gordonjcp, why it is a stand alone I have never had a problem I don't read an write in the windows only the shared.
[17:01] <wilee-nilee> gordonjcp, I see what you mean I don't edit windows from linux.
[17:02] <wilee-nilee> ArcaneWater,  I use a swap in the OS that adjust with needs, I don't hibernate so this works for me a normal swap would be equal to the ram at the least.
[17:03] <wilee-nilee> basically unless you had like 8 gigs of swap and never really used it, it is for hibernate primarily, unless you are using up the ram while using the OS.
[17:03] <kenshiro> Hi, I have 2 questions: 1- Could cause some problem to have other window managers installed in Ubuntu (for example, I have installed LXDE and JWM) ? 2 - I installed JWM in Ubuntu 12.04 but if choose that window manager, I see a black screen and I have to reboot and choose a different window manager. Will it be fixed? Thank you !
[17:04] <blitzkrieg3> how long does a package wait in the proposed queue til it makes -proposed?
[17:05] <wilee-nilee> blitzkrieg3, No real time span the work is done by individual teams at times so you would have to watch for it basically.
[17:06] <wilee-nilee> to many packages and possibilities, with dependencies...etc
[17:06] <blitzkrieg3> wilee-nilee: thanks
[17:07] <wilee-nilee> blitzkrieg3, Some like say a new FF update from Mozilla might move fast, but not be ported to a earlier release.
[17:08] <novato_br> how can I make my mouse pointer glowing like that? ==> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jT8n9PKiFE
[17:08] <wilee-nilee> kenshiro, The ubuntu unity desktop is a plugin in compiz.
[17:09] <wilee-nilee> running on top of gnome 3 lol
[17:09] <blitzkrieg3> wilee-nilee: I'm confused by this comment
[17:09] <blitzkrieg3> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wpasupplicant/+bug/969343/comments/96
[17:09] <blitzkrieg3> 3 weeks old...
[17:09] <kenshiro> wilee-nilee lol
[17:10] <kenshiro> wilee-nilee Ok, my doubt is: Could cause some system problem install several window managers in Ubuntu ? I mean, installing from official repos
[17:11] <crizis> kenshiro, it's no problem and you can simply choose your preferred window manager from login window
[17:11] <dyd> guys i've installed the latest version of ubuntu, then i resized the disk and installed on another partition WIN XP. Now it just boots with XP, how can i dual boot?
[17:12] <wilee-nilee> kenshiro, NOt sure to be honest I have not messed with window managers.  The key I think is understanding how the ones stock work like in the unity desktop as it is a bit unusually set up
[17:12] <ThinkT510> !grub2 | dyd
[17:12] <crizis> dyd, windows first, linux then
[17:12] <dyd> crizis, too bad i know it now :(
[17:12] <dyd> thank you
[17:12] <changes_> am tryn to change my desktop resolution but can any one help??
[17:12] <alien2050> dyd: boot with live cd, then do a grub-install
[17:13] <alien2050> next time do windows first, just a good habit
[17:13] <brandos> ciao
[17:13] <alien2050> although better not to install win anyways ;)
[17:13] <brandos> !list
[17:13] <wilee-nilee> blitzkrieg3, Looks like it says fixed in quantal the development release to be released on oct 28 hehe with a different name as well.
[17:14] <kenshiro> wilee-nilee ok, thank you !
[17:14] <blitzkrieg3> right, I was wondering about the precise bit, does the sru team hold that up?
[17:14] <wilee-nilee> dyd, Are you getting to XP through the grub bootloader, and what happens if it is grub when you choose ubuntu?
[17:15] <changes_> am stuck on 640 x 480 resolution its too small i cant see other button when running applications can smone pls help me on how to change?
[17:16] <wilee-nilee> dyd, Ah I see you installed XP after ubuntu you just need to reload grub to the mbr.
[17:19] <Guest5153> hello world xoxox
[17:19] <jaja> hi
[17:19] <rushiop> hi
[17:20] <rushiop> someone can help me? my ubuntu its too slow, i dont know why
[17:20] <l3d> is there a easy and safe way to remove cinnamon and every thing it installed?
[17:20] <wilee-nilee> !details > rushiop
[17:20] <bazhang> l3d, the MINT ppa?
[17:22] <jaja> try launch top and watch process consumption
[17:23] <wilee-nilee> jaja, 1671 nics in the channel you have a destination for that?
[17:23] <wilee-nilee> !who
[17:25] <neglesaks> In Soviet Russia,you get lost in channel
[17:26] <rushiop> im gettin some 60% cpu usage some times, i dont know why
[17:26] <bekks> In Soviet Russia, the channel loses you. And now back to ontopic :)
[17:26] <rushiop> i remember some of the first versions of ubuntu demn they where fast
[17:26] <rushiop> but now they have a lot of resources consumption
[17:27] <OerHeks> "im gettin some 60% cpu usage some times" is not bad
[17:28] <rushiop> 60% on both cpus, in idle
[17:28] <rushiop> thats not good i think
[17:28] <neglesaks> look at the processes, see which on eats CPU
[17:28] <gordonjcp> wilee-nilee: building stuff from source can go hilariously wrong if it's not in a "real" POSIX filesystem
[17:28] <kickingvegas> hi folks; have got 12.04 installed on an ASUS x401a laptop; finding that my wifi connection is much more stable when I disable IPv6 addressing; is this a known problem?
[17:29] <wilee-nilee> gordonjcp, ?
[17:29] <gordonjcp> wilee-nilee: stuff like executable flags and case sensitivity are really important to a lot of things in Unix
[17:29] <gordonjcp> wilee-nilee: NTFS doesn't really have these, as such
[17:29] <rushiop> 2 process compiz 8% and system monitor 10%
[17:30] <Mrokii> Hi. One of the messages I get during boot is "starting upp armor profile" which fails. What's that supposed to mean and what are the consequences of it failing?
[17:30] <bazhang> Mrokii, thats app armor
[17:30] <wilee-nilee> gordonjcp, I use a shared NTFS to like have movies and docs, no symlinks. I don't read and wriye in windows from linux.
[17:30] <wilee-nilee> write*
[17:30] <Mrokii> bazhang: oops, yes, "app armor". But what is this about?
[17:31] <wilee-nilee> gordonjcp, The shared is a stand alone partition no OS.
[17:31] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppArmor   Mrokii
[17:31] <dr_willis> Mrokii:  so is the system working correctly?
[17:31] <rushiop> and some internet pages looks soo slow, im using mozilla, and sometimes the system freeze for like 1 sec
[17:32] <Mrokii> dr_willis: Yeah, apart from some apps segfaulting now and then everything works fine.
[17:32] <rushiop> maybe i have to put on some drivers for this notebook?
[17:32] <dr_willis> whats segfaulting? i doubt if thats relatered to the apparmour warning
[17:32] <wilee-nilee> gordonjcp, I know what your saying though as far as cross writing and differentials between windows and linux.
[17:34] <Mrokii> dr_willis: different apps, sometimes. Very rare. I doubt it has something to do with App Armor, just wanted to mention it. All in all, the system works mostly correct.
[17:34] <novato_br> why does it take so long time to dismount the partitions?
[17:34] <Mrokii> dr_willis: Just wondered if I should worry about that fail-message or if I should do something about it.
[17:35] <wilee-nilee> Off topic but the longest free fall from 122,000 feet is to go down today here is the live feed. http://www.wired.com/playbook/2012/10/red-bull-skydive-delay/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+wired%2Findex+%28Wired%3A+Top+Stories%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher
[17:36]  * OerHeks wonders do they show the moment of impact ?
[17:38] <wilee-nilee> OerHeks, They don't fearless felix for nothing. ;)
[17:38] <wilee-nilee> him*
[17:39] <Mrokii> Okay, so I tried to start AppArmor manually and got this: AppArmor parser error for /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.mysqld in /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.mysqld at line 44: Could not open 'local/usr.sbin.mysqld'
[17:40] <Mrokii> Plus a message about skipping some profile and that the action "start" has failed.
[17:40] <marvin> lü
[17:41] <Guest42709>  leck mich
[17:41] <wilee-nilee> Guest42709, This is an english channel
[17:41] <bazhang> !de | Guest42709
[17:41] <Guest42709>   fick dich
[17:41] <klaxtr> hi i have already ubuntu installed on this machine, but i need to install windows 7 also as dual boot, i have the win disk what you guys recomend to do this_
[17:42] <Mrokii> Guest42709: Stop being rude, please.
[17:42] <Guest42709>  willst du ficken
[17:42] <Mrokii> Can somebody ban Guest42709 please? Thx.
[17:42] <bazhang> Guest42709, thats enough
[17:42] <wilee-nilee> klaxtr, Ideally you want the windows at the start of the disc with a correct partition numerical sequence
[17:43] <Guest42709> kann einer von euch deutsch
[17:43] <TJ-> Mrokii: What does this report? "stat /etc/apparmor.d/local/usr.sbin.mysqld"
[17:43] <bazhang> Guest42709, #ubuntu-de
[17:43] <Guest42709> fuck you
[17:44] <Mrokii> TJ-: stat: cannot stat `/etc/apparmor.d/local/usr.sbin.mysqld': No such file or directory
[17:44] <TJ-> Mrokii: There's the fault then!
[17:45] <Mrokii> TJ-: So I should install mysqld?
[17:45] <Mrokii> If I knew where to find it, that is.
[17:45] <TJ-> Mrokii: hang on, I'm checking on one of mine as to what script copies that file into place
[17:46] <Mrokii> TJ-: thanks.
[17:48] <gitesh> Hello folks, nice to meet you :)
[17:49] <gitesh> How do I reconfigure my network package?  plz help..............
[17:51] <gordonjcp> gitesh: What exactly are you trying to do?
[17:51] <TJ-> Mrokii: My server has the file, but it doesn't appear to be shipped with any package. I'm guessing some script writes/copies it into place. I'm wondering if you tightened the apparmor policy to enforce when it previously was complain, which may be why it refuses to go on. That file is basically for sys-admin fine-tuning, so not strictly necessary (could be empty I guess)
[17:52] <Mrokii> TJ-: I am not that experienced with Ubuntu and to my knowledge didn't change anything regarding AppArmor or mysql or whatever that is about.
[17:52] <TheLordOfTime> Mrokii, if you need to fix that, installing mysql-server might fix it, that may include an apparmor profile...
[17:53] <gitesh> gordonjcp, I have broken my network manager on ubuntu 12.04 LTS desktop
[17:53] <TheLordOfTime> Mrokii, is it just saying there's no file, or is it having a major breakage therein, where it stops working altogether for everything else?
[17:53] <TJ-> Mrokii: OK, let me work some more on it
[17:53] <jrib> TJ-, Mrokii: mysql-server-5.1: /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.mysqld    on a lucid server
[17:54] <Mrokii> TheLordOfTime: I have no real problems with my system. No major breakage that I could relate to that.
[17:54] <klaxtr> wilee-nilee: you mean from gparted... i already before installing ubuntu created a partition at the begining for windows to be installed, so should i just go ahead i install windows 7?
[17:54] <jrib> TJ-, Mrokii: ah but you are looking at local rules?
[17:55] <Mrokii> jrib: No clue.
[17:56] <changes_> hello guyz need here some help on how to adjust my monitor resolution its on 640 x 480 and cant move further
[17:56] <wilee-nilee> klaxtr, It would be nice to see a screen shot of gparted just to be sure we are on the same page.
[17:56] <Mrokii> TheLordOfTime: I basically just wanted to know if that is something I need to worry about. The booting process works fine as always. I think that fail-message has been there for a long time.
[17:56] <wilee-nilee> !imagebin | klaxtr
[17:56] <TheLordOfTime> Mrokii, i've got several fail messages for processes that're nonexistent on my system, i just ignore those, if everything else is working, i'd put no true attention to it.
[17:56] <Mrokii> jrib: mysql-server is installed on my system. Oh well.
[17:57] <TheLordOfTime> , unless you really want to figure out why it might be saying that (chmod 000 permissions are on it, for instance, is one thought)
[17:57] <Mrokii> TheLordOfTime: Okay, that's all I wanted to know, thanks.
[17:57] <klaxtr> wilee-nilee:wait a sec im on that
[17:58] <wilee-nilee> klaxtr, I have to get to writing a college paper so I have only a couple of more minutes here, just a heads up.
[17:58] <wilee-nilee> Cool
[17:58] <Fanshawe> Hello again, folks. I'm still looking for a solution to my problem. I'm not sure how to safely install 'input-wacom', as compiling it takes up too much space. Does anyone have any ideas about how I can get my graphics tablet to be recognised despite this?
[17:58] <changes_> can you guyz help me???
[17:58] <TheLordOfTime> !help | changes_
[17:58] <jrib> Mrokii, TJ-: so something must be creating those files as TJ- said.  Actually, on 12.04, for everything in /etc/apparmor.d/local/, there is a file one level up but none of the files in local/ are provided by a package  (except for the README :P)
[17:58] <jrib> brb
[17:59] <Mrokii> jrib: Well, I guess I'll just ignore it, as TheLordOfTime suggested.
[18:00] <compdoc> Fanshawe, generally, its best not to compile your own. Although, thats not always true, if you have experience. have you tried:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom
[18:00] <crazydip> Fanshawe: input-wacom should already be installed it's the package xserver-xorg-input-wacom
[18:00] <changes_> my desktop screen stuck on 640 x 480 resolution
[18:01] <IdleOne> changes_: take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[18:01] <Fanshawe> Thank you compdoc, crazydip. I'll be back in a moment.
[18:01] <klaxtr> wilee-nilee: http://imagebin.org/231405
[18:01] <gitesh> How to make network connections on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[18:01] <gitesh> ?
[18:02] <Fanshawe> crazydip: xserver-xorg-input-wacom is indeed installed. Why is my tablet not recognised, then? Is there a list of packages I should have installed, or is there more to do?
[18:02] <crazydip> Fanshawe: if you are not on 12.04 then you should upgrade - also in case you need a newer version that is not in the repo you may want to look into the xorg ppa on launchpad
[18:02] <crazydip> Fanshawe: no idea, works for me... you should read that wiki
[18:03] <crazydip> Fanshawe: it no doubt depends on what tablet you have (maybe it uses some non-standard wacom hardware)
[18:03] <crazydip> Fanshawe: anyway, good luck (i need to get going)
[18:03] <posciak> hello, I'm looking for a frontend to usbmon output in debugfs. The only thing I could find was a few scripts and vusb-analyzer. I found them lacking quite a bit. Would anyone have any recommendations for a usb analyzer for usbmon output?
[18:04] <coder27> Hello. Sorry for my asking here. I've just installed lubuntu 12.04. The system is equipped with NVidia card and it is connected to the HD TV.  Fonts are unreadable. xdpyinfo says the DPI is 54x54. Xorg.conf is almost empty. Please help.
[18:04] <vroko> hi
[18:04] <vroko> hi
[18:04] <qw[Russian]> hello
[18:04] <qw[Russian]> help me please install web money
[18:05] <klaxtr> wilee-nilee: it's done
[18:05] <wilee-nilee> klaxtr, So it looks like you have a boot partition for ubuntu not needed but thats okay, the boot flag is not needed there but actually on the sda1 for the windows install and use.  Just use the custom install in the windows install to use the sda1.  You also have a sda5 unknown is this a swap and is this all encrypted?
[18:06] <klaxtr> it is a swap
[18:06] <Fanshawe> I think I've found the problem. I need to install wacom-tools.
[18:06] <Fanshawe> But it is not in any of my repos?
[18:07] <wilee-nilee> klaxtr, Actually the sda2 is to big for a boot, so just move the flag to sda1, and you should be okay, The swap is showing as unknow is this due to a encryoted setuo?
[18:07] <wilee-nilee> encrypted*
[18:07] <klaxtr> how can i know that?... to know if its encrypted
[18:09] <klaxtr> sda2 is for OS, in any case i want to try some othe distro
[18:09] <wilee-nilee> klaxtr, You would know if you encrypted it, it is a extra process to do that. I would remake the swap by just clicking on it and remake the swap, do not delete it first as it will change the partition number.
[18:09] <chinneseproduct> am looking for LAMP installation aid anybody with knowledge about it
[18:13] <chinneseproduct> am looking for LAMP installation aid anybody with knowledge about it
[18:14] <jrib> !lamp | chinneseproduct
[18:14] <cj_all_the_way> hi there! i have a fat32 formatted usb stick that i'd like to mount manually. it's listed as /dev/sdc. there is, however, no partition /dev/sdc1
[18:14] <chinneseproduct> yes jrib
[18:14] <cj_all_the_way> any ideas how to mount the stick?
[18:14] <chinneseproduct> jrib, yes am i
[18:14] <jrib> chinneseproduct: follow that wiki page
[18:15] <chinneseproduct> jrib, there is an error
[18:16] <jrib> chinneseproduct: use http://paste.ubuntu.com to show us the error (include the command you ran)
[18:16] <chinneseproduct> jrib, wait am pasting them to bin
[18:17] <TheLordOfTime> jrib, ping?
[18:17] <jrib> TheLordOfTime: ?
[18:17] <TheLordOfTime> see privmsg
[18:18] <chinneseproduct> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1268118/
[18:18] <midnightcoffee> so, randomly chrome flash videos/audio will start playing really fast and at the same time mozilla flash videos will become choppy. Anyone experience this?
[18:19] <doomlord> is it possible to enter unicode characters in gedit
[18:19] <chinneseproduct> some sort of backbiting in this channel i detect it  don't  see me as fool
[18:23] <adac> how to stream audio (output) with darkice? any ideas? currently darkice is streaming my micro input instead of the sound output
[18:24] <pfifo> doomlord, ctrl+alt+shift+u
[18:25] <DX099> hello all, is there some ongoing problem with ubuntu repos servers ?
[18:26] <TheLordOfTime> DX099, last i checked, which was a few hours ago, no... what issues're you having?
[18:26] <DX099> ah solved
[18:27] <DX099> aptitude has been unable to hit on some ubuntu servers
[18:27] <DX099> it just did fine second I was posting
[18:28] <TheLordOfTime> heh
[18:28] <DX099> it also couldn't resolve "extras.ubuntu.com", although a ping command issued some seconds later showed that the computer could do that perfectly...
[18:30] <jdawg2> can anyone help me figure out why my virtual midi board wont play sound
[18:31] <jdawg2> please help
[18:31] <yxkvast> i do not log in a emesene when i try
[18:32] <michagogo> yxkvast: I see you made it in.
[18:32] <yxkvast> i have tried with wrong password and then it show error, but when typing the correct password is just loading
[18:32] <yxkvast> michaelni:  yes
[18:34] <yxkvast> i just installed "emesene" but i dont like to log in, but it does not reject, just starts to load and loop
[18:34] <yxkvast> why is that ?
[18:34] <yxkvast> anyone?
[18:34] <truexfan81> does apt-get autoremove serve any purpose other than to break stuff?
[18:34] <truexfan81> sigh
[18:36] <DX099>  it was a flash update, don't know its purpose but certainly doesn't fix inverted colours mess
[18:37] <aguadito> DX099, ?
[18:37] <DX099> truexfan81, sorry, I use aptitude, can't help you. I have the feeling it handles dependencies a little better than apt-get
[18:38] <DX099> aguadito, ah, I was talking to TheLordofTime, but looks like he's gone
[18:38] <postgres_user234> i am wondering if postgres 9.2 is going to be coming to the offical repo for 12.04 any time soon
[18:38] <postgres_user234> thansk
[18:38] <yxkvast> it is still loading
[18:39] <yxkvast> doesnt emesene work?
[18:40] <Cheery> how to change keyboard layout through terminal?
[18:40] <jrib> Cheery: in X?  setxkbmap
[18:40] <truexfan81> DX099: it broke my deluge torrent client, it says it can't find module "web"
[18:41] <doomlord> can ubuntu bind key combinations to chords eg for unicode input (i've seen ctrl-shift-u00ab work.. would be nice to bind ctrl-alt-  to that or something)
[18:41] <jrib> doomlord: yes I think there's some way, though using a compose key or dead key is probably saner
[18:42] <DX099> truexfan81, did you try "apt-get check deluge" ?
[18:43] <Cheery> jrib: how to change it back once I'm done?
[18:43] <truexfan81> wasn't aware of that command, will try it
[18:43] <jrib> Cheery: run it again with a different argument?
[18:43] <jrib> doomlord: ctrl-shift-u seems to be the default sequence for gtk
[18:43] <truexfan81> DX099: doesn't report anything
[18:43] <Cheery> jrib: no, I don't know what keyboard layout specifically I have.
[18:44] <Cheery> except that it's swedish dvorak
[18:44] <jrib> Cheery: but you've changd it already?
[18:44] <Cheery> nah
[18:44] <jrib> Cheery: setxkbmap -query
[18:45] <Day9> About 2/3 of the time, when I boot up Ubuntu I just get a single-colored screen (blue or orange) and nothing happens.
[18:45] <SecretFire> I am trying to compile a program using terminal and I get a Permission denied error
[18:45] <Cheery> jrib: it shows that it's on dvorak variant now
[18:45] <gordonjcp> SecretFire: pastebin the error *verbatim*
[18:45] <Cheery> oh jeah
[18:45] <Cheery> that did it thanks
[18:46] <DX099> truexfan81, can you try to run it in CLI and poste paste.ubuntu.com ?
[18:47] <truexfan81> DX099: i fixed it
[18:47] <DX099> truemove, how ?
[18:47] <truexfan81> DX099: it was needing python-twisted-web
[18:47] <DX099> sorry
[18:47] <DX099> ok
[18:47] <DX099> but apt-get check didn't report ?
[18:47] <truexfan81> no
[18:47] <truexfan81> but i'm not completely suprised since it is built from source
[18:48] <DX099> ah
[18:48] <DX099> worth mentionning
[18:48] <SecretFire> gordonjcp : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1269795/
[18:48] <DX099> anyway, good for you
[18:48] <DX099> now is anyone good at Unity here ? (internals & stuff)
[18:48] <gordonjcp> SecretFire: that's not how you compile things
[18:49] <SecretFire> gordonjcp, well it was already compiled i was trying to run the program
[18:49] <jrib> SecretFire: gordonjcp is right though I guess you actually want to execute something for your class but the files are on a vfat partition and so are not executable
[18:49] <gordonjcp> SecretFire: maybe the program isn't set to be executable
[18:49] <SecretFire> oh i see
[18:49] <gordonjcp> SecretFire: VFAT doesn't really support Unix permissions properly
[18:50] <SecretFire> so i need to partition the drive
[18:50] <gordonjcp> no, just copy it across to your home directory and work on it there
[18:50] <DX099> SecretFire, most likely the drive is was not mounted with execute permissions
[18:50] <DX099> -is
[18:50] <gordonjcp> DX099: quite likely
[18:50] <SecretFire> can't i change the filesystem to ext4?
[18:50] <gordonjcp> this is exactly the sort of thing I was talking about earlier :-)
[18:51] <gordonjcp> SecretFire: you'd need to wipe and reformat the drive
[18:51] <gordonjcp> SecretFire: but if you're cool with that, go to it and good luck
[18:51] <SecretFire> gordonjcp : yea, just got the drive so I dont have much on it
[18:51] <wxl> hey folks, how does one install an app with update-alternatives --install? specifically the precise version of xxxterm doesn't include itself on install (tho this appears fixed on quantal)
[18:52] <jrib> wxl: you could always cheat and read the install scripts for the quantal version
[18:52] <wxl> jrib: trying the easy route first. go.
[18:53] <jrib> wxl: I don't know offhand; would have to open up the man page
[18:53] <wxl> jrib: well i've looked ant i don't entirely get it
[18:53] <DeviceZer0> hello all. Right now I'm on fedora 17 with full disk encryption. I'm thinking of installing ubuntu on here. Is it possible for the ubuntu installer to detect my disks are encrypted and open them up so I can install ubuntu? I have a seperate /home partition that I would like to keep.
[18:54] <jrib> wxl: should give you plenty of examples: grep -A 2 -- 'update-alternatives --install' /var/lib/dpkg/info/*
[18:55] <SecretFire> do i need to unmount the drive before formatting?
[18:55] <wxl> jrib: you're my hero
[18:55] <SD_Ecliptica> I can't set my resolution in ubuntu to higher than 1024x768 even though my monitor supports higher.
[18:55] <jrib> wxl: probably checking the gnome-terminal one is the best idea
[18:56] <DX099> SD_Ecliptica, what is you graphic chipset ?
[18:57] <DX099> !graphic
[18:57] <DX099> !graphics
[18:57] <DX099> !display
[18:58] <DX099> SD_Ecliptica, !display
[18:58] <SD_Ecliptica> DX099: I'm not sure how to find that. Thanks for the link!
[18:58] <DX099> you're welcome
[19:00] <paulus68> I am behind a proxy server how do I set this up for the repositories in 12.04
[19:00] <paulus68> already applied proxy settings system wide but still not able to upgrade through terminal
[19:01] <DX099> !video
[19:01] <VonWhistler> guys, how come when i setup an alias on eth0, etho0:0 the ip address defined in eth0 section is no longer pingable, but the alias is
[19:02] <absentbird> Hello, I just upgraded by motherboard, cpu and graphics card. Do I need to worry about updating my drivers?
[19:02] <alakoo> for the graphics at least, yes
[19:03] <absentbird> alakoo, well for some reason my audio is not working, no device.
[19:04] <alakoo> well what do you see when looking for non restricted drivers
[19:05] <absentbird> You mean through the proprietary drivers? I only see my graphics card driver.
[19:05] <absentbird> Where do I find non restricted drivers? In apt?
[19:05] <alakoo> the propriety I think
[19:06] <alakoo> hmm, usually ubuntu detects the integrated audio card by itself
[19:06] <alakoo> someone else will probably know better
[19:06] <absentbird> I was wondering if there was a command I could run to tell ubuntu I got new hardware and it needs to load different modules on boot now.
[19:07] <absentbird> I am guessing it has something to do with modules anyway, since I think that is how drivers are loaded in Ubuntu. I am honestly not very knowledgable about drivers on linux.
[19:07] <alakoo> did you try alsamixer?
[19:07] <jrib> absentbird: might be worth verifying the audio works on a live cd
[19:08] <absentbird> jrib, I did that, it does.
[19:09] <absentbird> alakoo, No, not yet. I will try that.
[19:09] <grandal_prime> has anyone used any system76 machines?
[19:09] <grandal_prime> if so im currious about durrability of hardware
[19:10] <nick_> My display seems to crash a few seconds after I log in (most of the time). Any idea how I can fix it?
[19:12] <absentbird> I found this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hardware/Detection
[19:12] <alakoo> nick_ does it black out during boot?
[19:12] <alakoo> just wondering if it's an adapter problem
[19:13] <sdndk> alakoo: It shows my cursor and background for a second, then the whole display goes maroon.
[19:13] <sdndk> alakoo: If I reboot enough times, GRUB appears, and if I boot through GRUB it seems to work fine.
[19:13] <alakoo> but you can see everything properly until log-on, what if you stop there?
[19:14] <sdndk> alakoo: Auto-login is enabled on this machine >.<
[19:14] <alakoo> oh
[19:15] <alakoo> yeah just asked because I once had some hardware issues that I first thought to be about software because it took a while
[19:15] <alakoo> but if I had waited at log-on screen I would've seen the problem also
[19:19] <sdndk> Is there any kind of keyboard shortcut during boot that will force grub to appear?
[19:19] <jrib> sdndk: shift
[19:19] <sdndk> jrib: Thanks!
[19:20] <genii-around> Or ESC, depending on grub version
[19:24] <tolmun> hello ubuntu
[19:26] <marxx> ciao!
[19:26] <marxx> !list
[19:28] <paulus68> how to update or upgrade when you are behind a proxy in terminal
[19:29] <shwaiil> Q: I can change the backlight brightness trough system settings but not trough FN + F8 and F9 key combinations. I'm on a Clevo laptop. I've found some tips online where they mention setting "acpi_backlight=vendor" but I dont know where to do that. Any help ? tks
[19:29] <shwaiil> the bug is reported here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1041116?comments=all
[19:30] <hilo> Is there a performance hit in terms of networking throughput using a linux system to ip_forward in place of a consumer level router (like linksys or other running DD-WRT)?
[19:32] <trism> shwaiil: that would be in /etc/default/grub, add it to the end of GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT and run update-grub (or just press e to edit an entry on grub to add it temporarily for one boot)
[19:33] <shwaiil> trism: thanks for looking. So something like sudo /etc/default/grup and then press E ? or sudo vim /etc/default/grup ?
[19:34] <trism> shwaiil: sudo vim /etc/default/grub; the press e part would be for when you are actually on grub and selecting the os you want to boot
[19:34] <TJ-> hilo: if anything, it'd be faster (assuming the network side is well-tuned)
[19:34] <shwaiil> trism: I see! ok thanks Ill try this
[19:35] <shwaiil> trism: how can I check the current value of acpi_backlight ?
[19:35] <shwaiil> before I make changes
[19:36] <tacirus> Hello, how can I write a line that is highlited ina textfile into another file using bash?
[19:36] <tacirus> The line is highlighted  with the mouse
[19:37] <genii-around> tacirus: right-click ...copy          in other file... put cursor where you want text, shift-insert
[19:38] <DX099> someone great at dealing with Unity nearby ?
[19:38] <michealPW> I set default_timeout=0 in my grub config but still the grub menu appears. Any ideas?
[19:39] <tacirus> genii-around: I want to copy something and then to write it in a file but without choosing it with the mouse , instead writing it into it using bash
[19:39] <trism> shwaiil: I do not know, sorry
[19:40] <navalastro> AI ALGUIEN CONECTAO
[19:40] <Pici> !es | navalastro
[19:40] <navalastro> ???????????????????????????????????????????????
[19:40] <shwaiil> trism: ok, so just to confirm, I just put the line "acpi_backlight=vendor" on the file, thats all right ?
[19:41] <navalastro> CAYATEYA ANDA QE ERES MAS TONTO KEUNA BACA.ATI NO TE LO DIGO
[19:41] <trism> shwaiil: by default GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash", you would change it to "quiet splash acpi_backlight=vendor" (or whatever kernel options you wanted)
[19:42] <shwaiil> trism: thanks
[19:43] <BvL> I'm looking for help, I'm trying to fix a boot time kernel panic
[19:43] <BvL> - I'm unable to find the kernel panic in my log files, can anyone help with this?
[19:46] <TJ-> BvL: It may be happening too early to be captured by the syslogd
[19:47] <BvL> TJ- How would I go about filing a bug report then?
[19:48] <SystemTyrant> anybody here familiar with rolling your own packages?
[19:49] <novato_br> how can I rename massive files on shell? I would like to take string off from names of files
[19:49] <TJ-> BvL: for early boot crashes we generally connect a serial console to the PC (if it has a serial port) and boot with the kernel writing its messages to the serial console, so they are captured on a different machine
[19:49] <paulus68> how to update or upgrade when you are behind a proxy in terminal
[19:49] <SystemTyrant> I'm just trying to figure out how to know what deps are required by a source file?
[19:49] <SystemTyrant> an easy way that is.
[19:49] <TJ-> paulus68: what kind of proxy?
[19:50] <michealPW> Using Ubuntu 12.04's Unity, the sound icon shows a Rhythmbox extension but it's not functional..
[19:50] <paulus68> TJ-: squid
[19:50] <TJ-> SystemTyrant: Figuring out dependencies is a case of identifying which libraries the source Makefile link in. Often that stuff will be available from the autoconf script
[19:51] <michealPW> When I click play nothing happens. I just get an animated spinning icon showing that it's doing something but nothing plays...
[19:51] <michealPW> Also, when I open Rhythmbox manually from Launcher, I can't skip forward/back or pause using that volume-rhythmbox extension
[19:52] <BvL> TJ- The issue is with a laptop (macbook), using uefi and ubuntu is on an external drive
[19:52] <TJ-> paulus68: SQUIDHOST="somehostname"; echo 'Acquire::http::Proxy "http://$SQUIDHOST:3142";' | sudo tee /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01proxy
[19:52] <BvL> it was working fine with 12.04LTS but now with 12.10
[19:53] <TJ-> BvL: Ahhh. You may be able to use a USB serial link but that will depend on whether the EFI has configured a port
[19:53] <paulus68> TJ-: what do I need to enter at hostname? anything
[19:53] <TJ-> BvL: Sometimes in these cases I aim a video camcorder at the screen, and afterwards play it back in slow-motion
[19:54] <TJ-> paulus68: The hostname/IP address of the SQUID proxy machine
[19:54] <cx19> hi!
[19:56] <wilee-nilee> BvL, The 12.10 channel is #ubuntu+1
[19:56] <BvL> wilee-nilee: thanks
[19:57] <shwaiil> Q: I've got a Killer-n 1102 Wireless card in my laptop. Unforunately my connection drops constantly, I'm 5m from the router and I've been using other devices without any issues. I'm wondering if there's something I could do to fix this ? Thanks!
[19:59] <paulus68> TJ-: I get no address associated with hostname
[19:59] <michealPW> Ohh!
[19:59] <michealPW> I figured out Rhythmbox..
[20:00] <michealPW> It was because I disabled the D-bus plug-in... So that's what that plug-in was for hehehe (blushes)
[20:00] <TJ-> paulus68: Is that from apt ?
[20:00] <paulus68> TJ-:yes
[20:01] <TJ-> paulus68: Well you need to ensure, if you've used a hostname, that it does resolve correctly. If the hostname won't resolve, then use the IP address
[20:02] <TJ-> paulus68: e.g. on my network I have "Acquire::http::Proxy "http://10.254.251.1:3142";"
[20:02] <paulus68> TJ-: mine is http://192.168.178.26:3128
[20:02] <dummy_> hi, does someone know how to search for single characters in vim ?
[20:03] <paulus68> TJ-: or do I need to adapt the localhost?
[20:03] <TJ-> paulus68: So you put that into /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01proxy
[20:03] <paulus68> TJ-: did that same error
[20:04] <B0g4r7_> Anyone wanna help me figure out why postfix is still directing dns queries to 127.0.0.1 after I updated resolv.conf to point elsewhere and rebooted?
[20:04] <TJ-> paulus68: I think there may be a typo on your file. Can you pastebin it for us?
[20:06] <WeThePeople> how to change ubuntu gui to Chinese?
[20:07] <Krenair> Nautilus crashes when I tell it to burn the contents of an image
[20:08] <h00plah> Hey there guys. I can't get my wifi card to work here. Dlink 525 - just installed it with the drivers found on ubuntu forums, everyone said they had great success
[20:09] <h00plah> but when i go to system>network tools it only shows eth0 and l0 but no wlan
[20:09] <Ramtron> I installed minecraft in Wine, and I have no idea how to open it. Any help?
[20:09] <h00plah> why did you install minecraft in wine? It's linux compatible.
[20:09] <cx19> you can run minecraft as executable java file
[20:10] <h00plah> just double click the minecraft.jar
[20:10] <Ramtron> I torrented it.
[20:10] <h00plah> you got a minecraft.jar right?
[20:10] <Ramtron> I have the windows exe
[20:10] <cx19> hooplah: my networkmanager had the same problem
[20:10] <Ramtron> Could not having java be the problem?
[20:10] <h00plah> cx19: we're problem brothers D:
[20:10] <cx19> i had to restart the networkmanager :D
[20:10] <h00plah> I've rebooted buncha time
[20:10] <cx19> and now it does not autostart anymore
[20:11] <ISTguy15> do you guys know how to create an os deployment server in ubuntu server 12.04
[20:11] <h00plah> i also installed wicd but I can't find an interface anywhere
[20:11] <Ramtron> When I click the Minecraft on my desktop, nothing happens
[20:11] <h00plah> ISTguy15: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer
[20:12] <h00plah> Ramtron: you do have to have java to run minecraft
[20:12] <DJones> Ramtron: Just download the minecraft.jar from https://minecraft.net/download website, it runs without problem in Ubuntu as long as you have java installed
[20:12] <Ramtron> Pretty sure I have Java actually
[20:12] <Ramtron> But I don't want to pay for it.
[20:12] <DJones> !piracy | Ramtron
[20:12] <h00plah> If you dont pay for it you just can't play online
[20:13] <Ramtron> Doesn't matter, not the point I already have it
[20:13] <cx19> O_o
[20:13] <DJones> Ramtron: The channel doesn't support pirated software
[20:13] <Ramtron> I just can't seem to open it
[20:13] <cx19> just pay the 20 bucks and enjoy a working copy ^^
[20:13] <Ramtron> We can pretend it's not pirated. Either way, this is more of a Wine question
[20:13] <Ramtron> I don't have $20.
[20:13] <Ramtron> You gimmie $20, and I'll buy it
[20:14] <DJones> Ramtron: Its not supported here
[20:14] <h00plah> I hoep you get banned.
[20:14] <h00plah> with the e before the p
[20:14] <Ramtron> So, how do I get this minecraft.jar to work?
[20:15] <devin> ok i want someones opinion on this. do you think it is a security hazard for a user to be able to use sudo passwd root to set/change the root password to a ubuntu system
[20:16] <mschr> hello folks - have been trying to set a setting last few days.. i hate not having the Alt + [middle mouse[ resize feature
[20:16] <wilee-nilee> Ramtron, You have been informed if you continue to ask for help the mods will be notified and you risk being banned, you will not get help here.
[20:16] <mschr> any ideas how to set it up so it will work in any users session?
[20:17] <Ramtron> Dude, that doesn't make any sense considering this is a question about Wine. You guys obviously need to grow up.
[20:17] <DJones> Ramtron: Stop asking, you've already said its pirated, its not supported here
[20:17] <Krenair> Ramtron, see PM.
[20:17] <wilee-nilee> !ops | Ramtron
[20:17] <mschr> gosh....
[20:17]  * mschr grows a pair :)
[20:17] <Ramtron> Ignorance.
[20:18] <wilee-nilee> hehe I didn't realize DJones
[20:18] <[1]Snicers-Work> Hey, it seems that after a few hours apache takes up all availbe memory and swap on my server and crashes it, any advice?
[20:19] <mschr> apache-workers limitations via httpd.conf
[20:19] <[twisti]> hello, i have not touched or read about samba in roughly ten years or so. is it today a matured server you guys would recommend for a group of mixed windows users ? or is it stilly a hacky piece of crap best forgotten about in lieu of more mature things like ftp ?
[20:20] <SD_Ecliptica> twisti: I still use samba, it's maintained and works well for me. I use it for printer and file sharing
[20:20] <dr_willis> ftp mature... ;-)
[20:20] <wilee-nilee> [twisti], That is a copy and paste of your earlier post, using a defiling description will knock out a percentile of the help you will get at the least
[20:20] <michealPW> What are the options in /etc/default/grub that I need to make the grub menu NOT appear when the computer boots?
[20:21] <wilee-nilee> michealPW, You can shorten the timeout, but if you turn it off you will not have the benefits there if you need it to fix a problem
[20:22] <[twisti]> wilee-nilee: nobody answered before, and i reckoned nobody who cared about samba one way or another was around then. it was hours ago, its hardly like im spamming my question. im alright with missing out on the advice of the kind of people who would be insulted by my description of reality.
[20:22] <robertzaccour> whenever I record with guvcview using my webcam to capture audio it records fine, but when recording with my voice mic the video gets jerky and sped up. Any suggestions?
[20:22] <[1]Snicers-Work> mschr, is there a tutorial for setting up apache-workers? is it enabled by default and I just set the limits in apache.conf?
[20:22] <[twisti]> SD_Ecliptica: thanks, thats good to hear, always hard to judge things you havent used in so long and remember not exactly fondly ;)
[20:22] <michealPW> wilee-nilee: Even though I set the timeout low and have Ubuntu selected by default, my wife still complains that a menu appears at all :|
[20:23] <wilee-nilee> [twisti], Your description is from your own reality and smells of a lack of cognitive development. ;)
[20:23] <mschr> [1]Snicers-Work> The common rule of thumb is: (Max desired Memory) / (Memory Usage of 1 Apache Process) = # Max Clients
[20:23] <wilee-nilee> michealPW, Just letting you know of the problem possibilities.
[20:23] <michealPW> wilee-nilee: I set GRUB_TIMEOUT=0 but still the menu appears :|
[20:24] <dr_willis> theres a hidden option in there somewhere michealPW
[20:24] <wilee-nilee> michealPW, Have you run a update-grub after adjusting?
[20:24] <dr_willis> !grub2
[20:24] <michealPW> Oh, no? I just changed the setting and then restarted LOL
[20:25] <dr_willis> michealPW:  then the changes are not being used. :-(
[20:25] <wilee-nilee> hehe always run a update after tat files adjustments
[20:25] <wilee-nilee> that*
[20:25] <michealPW> Ohh haha so that's my problem then. Doh!
[20:25] <michealPW> Thx :)
[20:25] <SD_Ecliptica> How can I remove/modify/reorder entries in grub2?
[20:25] <[1]Snicers-Work> Ok, my current config is prefork, do I need to remove apache2-mpm-prefork and replace it with mpm-worker mschr?
[20:25] <kfizz> I just transfered a file from one Ubuntu laptop to another (via scp), both connected to a wireless router (all wireless N), but the transfer speed was only ~1Mbps. Any obvious reason this is so low?
[20:26] <hoonteke> My google skills are failing me today: I can PXE boot and install over the LAN the Desktop version, but what is the tidbit I'm missing for doing similar with the Server version?  Everytime I PXE Boot the netboot directory, it wants to install from the internet, not my LAN available copy of the iso.  Can anyone help?
[20:26] <cx19> kfizz: maybe driver problems. i use windows drivers with ndiswrapper and some routers does not seem to work right with that combination
[20:26] <michealPW> Ohhh I get it.. etc/default/grub is read by update-grub to generate a configuration for GRUB, it's not the actual configuration hehe?
[20:26] <wilee-nilee> SD_Ecliptica, What is your final goal here exactly?
[20:27] <wilee-nilee> michealPW, yep.
[20:27] <SD_Ecliptica> wilee-nilee: I want to rename the entry for one of my operating systems and set it as the default.
[20:27] <michealPW> wilee-nilee: Thx, mate. Cheers! :)
[20:27] <kfizz> cx19 I suppose that could be the reason.
[20:27] <mschr> [1]Snicers-Work> Just off the top of my head, i think the sum of all 'StartServers' is the maximum process count (i.e. shows in `ps`)
[20:28] <cx19> damnit was supposed to mean "do" not "does"
[20:28] <cx19> O_o sry
[20:28] <wilee-nilee> SD_Ecliptica, There is a app called the grub customizer that some use, depends on how much you want to know about grub really.
[20:28] <SD_Ecliptica> wilee-nilee: Thanks, I'll check that out.
[20:28] <robertzaccour> whenever I record with guvcview using my webcam to capture audio it records fine, but when recording with my voice mic the video gets jerky and sped up. Any suggestions?
[20:28] <mschr> [1]Snicers-Work> each process, be it a prefork-/worker-/event-module process, will have an individual limitation via module configs 'mpm_prefork_module', 'mpm_worker_module' 'mpm_event_module'
[20:29] <paulus68> TJ-: I have in my file Acquire::http::Proxy "http://192.168.178.26:3128";
[20:29] <wilee-nilee> SD_Ecliptica, here is a link to the UF. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1664134
[20:30] <TJ-> paulus68: That should work. if not, there's something else on that system/network causing issues.
[20:30] <wilee-nilee> michealPW, No problem.
[20:30] <paulus68> TJ-: getting now Proxy authentication required
[20:30] <paulus68> TJ-: 407
[20:30] <mschr> Anyone got an idea of how to set back option for emulating middle-mouse click? (via left+right combined click)
[20:32] <TJ-> paulus68: There you go. Your network proxy needs authentication. I've never tried using that with apt
[20:32] <wilee-nilee> mschr, http://askubuntu.com/questions/160164/how-do-i-enable-middle-mouse-button-emulation-in-12-04-lts
[20:33] <haiQt> hey guys, quick issue (bet you get this a lot): i'm trying to install ubuntu 12.04 next to windows 8, and i'm not sure which partition will be the ubuntu one. i made a pic of the install step here: http://gyazo.com/47c6aabfe2e275354bf28b86567ab51e.png?1349814253
[20:33] <haiQt> which drive will be the ubuntu one? left or right?
[20:33] <TJ-> paulus68: Ahhh OK it's easy. Just add the username and password to the 01proxy statement similar to this: Acquire::http::Proxy "http://username:password@proxyhost:port/";
[20:34] <tozen> haiQt, dont use wubi, install ubuntu nornali on separetes partition only!!!
[20:34] <haiQt> what is wubi? the step i'm trying to do now?
[20:35] <tozen> haiQt, i supposed u using wubi installer to install ubuntu next to win, dont u?
 thx, looks promising - ive tried gpointing-device-settings but it resets once user logs out - and then needs to be set again
[20:36] <haiQt> i don't know, i just downloaded the .iso from ubuntu site and put it on a usb drive using lili usb creator
[20:36] <paulus68> TJ-: ok
[20:36] <haiQt> Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS 64 bit <--- this is the one i downloaded
 didnt know the 'gsettings' command - is it a new util for administration in gconf?
[20:37] <tozen> haiQt, the best way to how to install ubuntu properly is to chose installation option "Something else"
[20:37] <k1gwb> Is it obvious to anyone what I am doing wrong? This is from my /etc/fstab. When I mount -a it says "Line 12 is bad" which is this: //192.168.1.100/G\ Drive /home/greg/G-Drive cifs credentials=/home/greg/.smbcredentials,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777,noauto,rw 0 0
[20:37] <crazydip> how do i send packages build in Launchpad to debian upstream? i have been asked to do so by a debian maintainer
[20:38] <wilee-nilee> haiQt, WE define drive as a hard drive the picture you show is on one HD and would split it. If you want these installs an seperate HD's you need to use the something other option a manual install.
[20:38] <michealPW> haiQt: You're doing fine. That's the partition resize utility... You're resizing an existing hard-drive partition and creating free-space that can be used to create a second partition.
[20:38] <mschr> klgwb missing option parameter '_netdev' which will delay mount until network is up
[20:39] <michealPW> haiQt: The partition on the left side is your existing partition, likely the one with Windows on it. The partition on the right isn't created yet, it's the free-space that will be created once you shrink that partition.
[20:39] <haiQt> oh okay, that's easy then
[20:39] <haiQt> why can't i do it that way? it seems it's frowned upon or something?
[20:39] <wilee-nilee> haiQt, Do youn have the windows backed up?
[20:40] <wilee-nilee> you*
[20:40] <haiQt> not really but it's a fresh install (formatted yesterday)
[20:40] <haiQt> but i'd rather not have to go through installing all adobe apps & IDE's again
[20:40] <haiQt> takes a while
[20:40] <michealPW> haiQt: One thing I would suggest, though.. Is use Windows to resize your Windows partitions, not Ubuntu.
[20:41] <michealPW> Esp. if you're using WIndows 7 or WIndows 8.
[20:41] <wilee-nilee> haiQt, You should always be backed up that install had a lot of updates, if something goes wrong you will have to do it again.
[20:41] <k1gwb> Sorry, closed in error, if anyone said anything about the mount line in my fstab :/
[20:41] <haiQt> ok so the safest thing to do right now is to go back into windows and create a small partition (around 15-20GB) to install ubuntu on?
[20:42] <mrhubrisje> Are there any good DNS alternatives out there in comparisson to my ISP's?
[20:42] <michealPW> Windows 7's Storage snap-in can resize ("Shrink") a volume very well. Use that to shrink your volume and create some free-space, say 100gb. Then restart the computer with your USB Ubuntu LIveCD and install Ubuntu to that free-space. Ubuntu should find it and use it automatically.
[20:42] <abaratican> Where would I put a line to autostart a program when X starts?  (before logging in)
[20:43] <michealPW> mrhubrisje: There's openDNS (Search google) but as far as "better", if by "better" you mean speed you wont find anything faster than your current ISP's DNS server, I would imagine :P
[20:43] <michealPW> Since your ISP's going to assign one based on your geographic location.
[20:43] <k1gwb> mrhubrisje: google has some public dns servers, there's also 4.2.2.2 and 4.2.2.1 which are good
[20:44] <mrhubrisje> I found Comodo, Open DNS and Google DNS. but i'm wondering if they are any that i can trust with my "behaviour"
[20:44] <k1gwb> mrhubrisje: 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 are Google's https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/
[20:44] <guntbert> k1gwb: did you see :  mschr > klgwb missing option parameter '_netdev' which will delay mount until network is up  ?
[20:45] <masturbation> hello
[20:45] <mschr> haiqt IMO the best partition setup is [128MB /boot] + [RAMx2 GB swap] + [20GB+ /] (optionally [XGB /home[)
[20:45] <mschr>  /boot and swap being primary partitions
[20:46] <gabrieluk> hi, what is the command to unistall virtual box?
[20:46] <bits8mybytes> hmm why so low on boot?
[20:46] <mschr> bits8mybytes 5 kernels ~= 100 MB
[20:46] <michealPW> What is the benefit to having so many partitions all on a single mechanical drive, though? :\
[20:46] <bits8mybytes> I thought swap beyond 4Gig was uneccesary
[20:46] <wilee-nilee> mschr, boot partitions are hardly never needed.
[20:47] <bits8mybytes> because above 4gigs of ram you probably don't need swap
[20:47] <michealPW> Except the /home, which makes sense to mount /home from a completely seperate mechanical drive for extra capacity.. Otherwise I don't see a benefit?
[20:47] <bits8mybytes> or a large swap that is
[20:47] <wilee-nilee> masturbation, Change your nick that is offensive
[20:47] <bits8mybytes> haha
[20:47] <[twisti]> what about that is offensive ?
[20:47] <[twisti]> its a perfectly normal thing
[20:47] <cx19> lol
[20:48] <bits8mybytes> not if your a good christian
[20:48] <michealPW> (rofl)
[20:48] <bits8mybytes> or a good muslim
[20:48] <wilee-nilee> !ops | masturbation
[20:48] <mschr> wilee-nilee its best option if youre going to deploy a [ / ] via imaging software
[20:48] <bits8mybytes> I don't know what other relgions dislike masturbation
[20:48] <[twisti]> yeah, total emergency!
[20:48] <novato_br> what is the question of day?
[20:49] <cx19> i think the scientologists dislike fapping too
[20:49] <guntbert> !ot | bits8mybytes [twisti] cx19
[20:49] <tony_> I have a dual boot on 2 discs, ubuntu and Xp. Updating to ubuntu11.10 lost Xp disc. How do I recover
[20:49]  * mschr thinks question of every day is: will i get layed :)
[20:49] <novato_br> I can't get help here. I solved my own question. So I would like help other people
[20:49] <overclucker> michealPW: what if / becomes full to capacity because of user data?
[20:49] <masturbation> its like going against our nature.
[20:49] <novato_br> tony_, you must recovery the grub
[20:49] <bits8mybytes> I like the idea of having / on a separate drive
[20:50] <guntbert> masturbation: drop that discussion please
[20:50] <michealPW> overclucker: If you've hit a capacity limit, that's that.. Hense my question. Why partition a single mechanical drive so many times.. What are the benefits? (Unless you have multiple drives, then it makes sense to expand capacity..)
[20:50] <tony_> How do I recover grub
[20:50] <bits8mybytes> and or a separate partition
[20:50] <masturbation> m'kay
[20:50] <bits8mybytes> I would say if you use LVM
[20:50] <k1gwb> mschr guntbert: no I hadn't thanks. However, I just added the line and am trying to mount -a to mount it. Haven't rebooted so the network has been up the whole time. Will add that now though.
[20:50] <bits8mybytes> then partition boot
[20:50] <bits8mybytes> and lvm the others
[20:51] <bits8mybytes> LVM is the way to GO!
[20:51] <novato_br> tony_, just a sec
[20:51] <bits8mybytes> LVM wooo!
[20:51] <bits8mybytes> :)
[20:51] <tony_> Ok
[20:51] <wN> dude. i highlight on lvm and you're killing me
[20:51] <wN> :P
[20:51] <wN> hehe
[20:51] <mschr> klgwb here's a nice walkthrough http://www.swerdna.net.au/susesambacifs.html#fstab
[20:51] <k1gwb> mschr: thanks will check it out
[20:53] <bits8mybytes> wN sorry for the noob question what does highlight on LVM mean? you are part of the dev team?
[20:53] <overclucker> michealPW: when / becomes full to capacity, services don't start properly, separate partitions help prevent that possibility. also, /home can easily be shared between different installations.
[20:54] <wN> bits8mybytes: whenever anybody says 'lvm' in irc, i get a notification
[20:54] <k1gwb> The fstab issue was that I had tried using G\ Drive and G%20Drive and was unaware the proper escape character is \040
[20:54] <mschr> overclucker michealpw a full / can potentially bring your system down
[20:54] <guntbert> bits8mybytes: no, he told his client to do that
[20:54] <bits8mybytes> wN oh haha sorry I just really like lvm big fan
[20:54] <k1gwb> from the link that mschr sent. thanks
[20:54] <wN> me too
[20:54] <michealPW> That doesn't make any sense... if / gets too full and you have a single mechanical drive, what difference does it make
[20:54] <mschr> klgwb good to know =)
[20:54] <michealPW> ?
[20:55] <im_not_masturbat> is it possible to redirect google.com to another page for the wifi leecers just with apache?
[20:55] <bits8mybytes> I have a 8 terabyte media server with 4 encrypted hds on one lvm
[20:55] <michealPW> If you've run out of space you've run out of space. Nothing but another drive is going to change that?
[20:55] <guntbert> gabrieluk: that depends on how you installed it
[20:55] <haiQt> while installing on a partition, which type should i use? ext4?
[20:56] <michealPW> I go with ext4
[20:56] <gabrieluk> guntbert, i dk, how can i check it? it might be a ppa or a deb pkg
[20:56] <michealPW> journling ftw! :)
[20:56] <bits8mybytes> yeah ext4 is good
[20:56] <wN> bits8mybytes: you have me beat by 3tb
[20:56] <haiQt> and mount point?
[20:56] <haiQt> "/"?
[20:56] <guntbert> !rootirc | im_not_masturbat
[20:58] <bits8mybytes> wN: :) I even swapped one of them out when it had a bad sector using dd...for file servers you can't beat linux too bad everyone's head is in the cloud
[20:58] <haiQt> and what do i choose for Device for boot loader installation? my entire hard drive or the win8 one? or the ubuntu one?
[20:58] <wN> bits8mybytes: you can use lvm on cloud
[20:58] <overclucker> michealPW: how does it not make sense? partitions can become full without the entire drive becoming full. partitions are a limiting mechanism for where data is stored.
[20:58] <guntbert> gabrieluk: if from some repo, then just    sudo apt-get remove virtualbox<tab>    (to autocomplete)
[20:58] <wN> bits8mybytes: why not join #lvm?
[20:59] <bits8mybytes> wN: just did
[20:59] <gabrieluk> guntbert, <tab>?
[21:00] <tony_> Anyone know how to recover grub
[21:00] <mrhubrisje> what DNS would you use to access the pirate bay?
[21:00] <WHOisAmanda_> i am having a issue installing chromeium in 12.04
[21:00] <mrhubrisje> (or is that a not allowed question?)
[21:00] <jrib> !grub | tony_
[21:00] <WHOisAmanda_> http://pastebin.com/nt1jPA7z
[21:00] <WHOisAmanda_> the error
[21:01] <gabrieluk> guntbert, what does it mean that?  sudo apt-get remove virtualbox<tab>    (to autocomplete)
[21:01] <gabrieluk> is that a typo?
[21:01] <guntbert> gabrieluk: you type the first part and where I wrote <tab> you press the tab key
[21:02] <guntbert> !tab | gabrieluk
[21:02] <gabrieluk> guntbert, also, if i install with a debian package, what is the way to unistall? can i just remove manually the folder?
[21:02] <gabrieluk> ok
[21:02] <gabrieluk> great <tab> did the jogb
[21:03] <guntbert> gabrieluk: in any case please see http://askubuntu.com/questions/22200/how-to-uninstall-a-deb-package
[21:04] <gabrieluk> ok
[21:04] <WHOisAmanda_> any help
[21:06] <gabrieluk> guntbert, ok, great, synaptic does the job. another question, if install with a ppa do i have it on synaptic also? does synaptic holds all apps in the system including libs etc?
[21:09] <gabrieluk> guntbert, oh yeah, i see now, it hold everything
[21:12] <diverdude> How do i make it so that i dont have to write my password when ssh'ing a server? Do i need to put my public key somewhere on the server?
[21:12] <julien> bonsoir...
[21:13] <jrib> !ssh | diverdude
[21:13] <err-or> diverdude: the remote ssh server needs to know your pub key
[21:13] <jrib> diverdude: use ssh-copy-id
[21:13] <TJ-> diverdude: "ssh-copy-id <remote-server>" will copy your public certificate to the the remote server
[21:13] <julien> y aurait t il un petit français
[21:13] <err-or> ;=
[21:13] <jrib> !fr | julien
[21:14] <shwaiil> Q: There's a program that I download as a package, has one executable file. Where should I place the extracted folder ? Thanks! Also what to do to put in the sidebar tks
[21:16] <mschr> diverdude for a lil more info
[21:16] <mschr> diverdude ssh-keygen && scp ~/.ssh/id_rsa remote_host:~/.ssh/$USER_key && ssh remote_host 'cat ~/.ssh/$USER_key >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2'
[21:16] <michealPW> overclucker: Hrmm so.. If / is say 20gb and /home is 80gb.. If /home reaches 80gb, / is still fine and the OS is bootable without problems?
[21:16] <michealPW> overclucker: Is that what you mean?
[21:16] <diverdude> thx
[21:17] <jrib> diverdude: note mschr's command also copies your private key which you may not want
[21:17] <overclucker> michealPW: yup
[21:17] <michealPW> I see..
[21:17] <michealPW> Touche.. Good argument :P
[21:18] <michealPW> I find a lot of times my / is ballooning in size far faster than /home 'cause I install everything I find that sounds interesting on Ubuntu Software Center (rofl)
[21:18] <eilyx> why is the gui updater app showing me kernel updates when the apt-get upgrade is telling me it's holding packages back
[21:19] <jrib> eilyx: kernel won't get upgraded unless you do: apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:19] <michealPW> I set aside 200gb for my entire, single-partition / though
[21:19] <jrib> !dist-upgrade | eilyx
[21:19] <michealPW> So I don't think I'll have any capacity issues 'cause I use WIndows for Gaming, which has 1.3tb hehe!
[21:19] <overclucker> michealPW: also, /usr and /var can become filled up easily so separate partitions for those is also popular
[21:20] <eilyx> jrib, no that is not a dist upgrade it is the update manager that is tellingme i have packages waiting
[21:20] <michealPW> overclucker: So that answers my question about freeBSD.. When I tried freeBSD (Admittedly awhile ago now..) it strongly encouraged me to create a whole bunch of partitions
[21:20] <jrib> eilyx: right, so install the kernel upgrade if you want it.  If you prefer to use the command-line, then do « apt-get dist-upgrade »
[21:20] <michealPW> Which I did. It was just easier to do what it said than try to go against the current haha
[21:21] <michealPW> I never knew the benefit, though
[21:21] <eilyx> just what is a dist-upgrade
[21:21] <jrib> eilyx: read what ubottu said
[21:21] <michealPW> Besides scalability. I think it would be neat to be able to swap-in/out drives, having the system's filesystem seperated the way it is I think that wouldn't be too difficult
[21:21] <michealPW> With the windows-style it would be a real chore haha
[21:22] <shwaiil> Q: I've installed a program on /opt and I want to create a shortcut on the left sidebar of unbuntu 12.04, how to do that ? Tks
[21:22] <eilyx> jrib, how is a kernel update considered a dist-upgrade?
[21:23] <michealPW> I don't understand why some Linux distros like Fedora have a /run/media/username and populate userland-filesystems in there while debian and ubuntu use a /media.
[21:23] <bekks> shwaiil: Start the program, it will have an icon on the left panel, the right click on that panel, and select "Lock to launcher".
[21:23] <jrib> eilyx: the way a new kernel is delivirede is by changing the dependency of the "linux-image-generic" package.  Apt-get won't install packages because of a changed dependency unless you issue a "dist-upgrade"
[21:23] <michealPW> Also the /usr is different in a lot of different linux systems. Crazytown!
[21:23] <michealPW> It plays awful games with my poor memory ;(
[21:23] <trism> shwaiil: create a .desktop file for the app in /usr/share/applications/ (bekks, that won't help without a .desktop file)
[21:23] <shwaiil> bekks:  thanks a lot for looking! I really appreciate it
[21:23] <shwaiil> trism: tks for looking. A .desktop file ?! :Z
[21:24] <bekks> trism: I never created a .desktop file when locking applications to the launcher.
[21:24] <eilyx> jrib, oh ok. thanks
[21:24] <trism> bekks: they won't stick if the app doesn't have one
[21:25] <shwaiil> bekks: after restarting the icon is still there ? cool
[21:25] <shwaiil> in my other laptop I had a different version of ubuntu, older and its much better, this new one sucks 12.04
[21:25] <shwaiil> top left corner I used to have applications etc
[21:25] <bekks> shwaiil: trism is right, you need a .desktop file. I just checked it, and apparently all apps I locked have .desktop file :)
[21:26] <shwaiil> :I
[21:27] <theseb> how remove NUMBERING from my unity icons?
[21:28] <theseb> I don't know what happened but now my trash can has a "t"
[21:28] <theseb> and my other icons have "1", "2", "3", etc.
[21:29] <trism> shwaiil: if you check out the ones already in that directory you should get the general idea, or if you have gnome-panel install you can use gnome-desktop-item-edit to create one
[21:29] <theseb> lemmie see if log out will fix
[21:30] <shwaiil> why did they make this so difficult
[21:30] <shwaiil> wow :P
[21:30] <crazydip> !imagebin
[21:32] <mschr> diverdude jrib yea, you'd better be using the id_rsa.pub - and delete the temporarily copied file after placing it to remote users authorized_keys2
[21:33] <paoloumali> help guys, which channel is for aws  ubuntu stuff?
[21:34] <crazydip> michealPW: i personally like the official Linux Directory Hierarchy Standard - and I *love* this simple LDHS graph reference: http://imagebin.org/231430
[21:34] <zykotick9> paoloumali: aws?
[21:34] <paoloumali> yes
[21:34] <paoloumali> i'm always sent to name space
[21:35] <paoloumali> can i ask web server questions here?
[21:35] <crazydip> paoloumali: i believe this is your channel to ask
[21:36] <paoloumali> ok, default root in ubuntu ec2 instance is ubuntu and im setting up a web server lamp
[21:36] <paoloumali> what's best practice? create my own account?
[21:37] <paoloumali> if i create a user account, should i ssh with that user account, or its just the same if i log in with root, then login as the user?
[21:37] <michealPW> crazydip: I don't understand the difference between /usr/local/bin and /opt/bin
[21:37] <michealPW> :(
[21:38] <crazydip> paoloumali: yes, you should create an account, then after checking if it works, disable root ssh login
[21:38] <paoloumali> if i disable the root, then who will be able to do admin tasks then?
[21:38] <michealPW> /opt/ is a rarely (Well I guess not rarely, but in the distros that I use it's rare) structure it seems. To me /opt/ makes sense, its optional software.. To me /usr/bin doesn't make sense 'cause what software is multi-user like that really?!
[21:38] <crazydip> paoloumali: what you are after server security - whether aws or not it's all the same
[21:39] <michealPW> I mean, what software would need /usr/michealpw/bin and /usr/crazydip/bin haha I don't get it? :\
[21:39] <crazydip> paoloumali: i did not say disable root, i said disable ssh root login
[21:39] <zykotick9> michealPW: one difference.  thins in /usr/local/bin are supported in #ubuntu, things in /opt are not ;)
[21:39] <michealPW> zykotick9: Hah! Interesting..
[21:39] <jpds> paoloumali: Root isn't enabled on Ubuntu anyway.
[21:39] <paoloumali> I see. so the best practice is just use a user account and then sudo when needed
[21:39] <jpds> paoloumali: Yes.
[21:40] <paoloumali> but for user to do sudo
[21:40] <overclucker> michealPW: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/
[21:40] <paoloumali> he mush have that right
[21:40] <jpds> paoloumali: Yes.
[21:40] <paoloumali> adding him in admin group
[21:40] <paoloumali> automatically add him to sudoers?
[21:40] <jpds> paoloumali: Now 'sudo' group.
[21:41] <michealPW> Thx, overclucker ;)
[21:41] <paoloumali> when i add him in sudo group: he will be like admin when he sudoes then
[21:41] <crazydip> jpds: are you sure it's not  enabled in aws? some providers enable root in ubuntu server
[21:41] <michealPW> How does Fedora use su -c 'yum intall somePackage'? I tried on Ubuntu and that doesn't work, I need to use sudo? :\
[21:41] <michealPW> Confusing haha
[21:41] <michealPW> su -c seems to log-in as Root temporarily..
[21:41] <crazydip> jpds: nevermind, i just found out it's disabled but sudo is apparently passwordless
[21:42] <michealPW> Sudo iunno wth's going on 'cause I enter my own user's pw :\
[21:42] <jpds> crazydip: It's not.
[21:42] <zykotick9> michealPW: simple rule, don't use su on ubuntu
[21:42] <michealPW> haha zykotick9. I know, but I want to learn :P
[21:42] <zykotick9> michealPW: also if you looking for info on directories "man hier" for some info
[21:42] <michealPW> Why's the difference, really? On Fedora I added my user to the sudoers file so I could sudo like I do on Ubuntu haha
[21:43] <michealPW> 'cause that way my wife could just type her password in to do things instead of also remembering root's pw ;)
[21:43] <ziggyzero> Hi. Does anybody know of a DLNA server that runs from CLI?
[21:44] <crazydip> michealPW: and just for the record, there is not such thing as /usr/<username>/bin - just /usr/bin and /usr/local/bin :D
[21:44] <michealPW> haha
[21:44] <michealPW> That's why /usr doesnt' make sense to me though
[21:44] <hdon> crazydiamond, i've always maintained a ~/bin
[21:45] <hdon> almost every system i've ever had an account on had a bin dir in my home
[21:45] <crazydip> hdon:  not yet diamond, just dip for now :D
[21:45] <postgres_user234> does anyone know when postgres 9.2 will find its way to the offical repo?
[21:45] <hdon> crazydip, sorry
[21:45] <crazydiamond> hdon: sorry, but what have I asked?
[21:45] <hdon> crazydiamond, nickcomplete miss
[21:45] <crazydiamond> oh ok
[21:45] <[1]Snicers-Work> I enabled the mpm-worker for apache but now it says I don't have access to index.php
[21:45] <[1]Snicers-Work> Any ideas why?
[21:46] <hdon> 1,590 users will do that to you
[21:46] <michealPW> readign those manuals now, brb :P
[21:46] <crazydip> yes, ~/bin is for the individual user - no such thing as /usr/hdon/bin :D
[21:47] <hdon> crazydip, well, you coudl make it, if you wanted
[21:47] <shwaiil> Q: I've got a Killer Wirless-n 1102 installed automatically by ubuntu 12.04 LTS. My connection drops at least twice or more every 20m. I'm wondering if there's a way to fix this ? Thanks! I'm 5m from the router
[21:47] <shwaiil> and this wireless device is supposed to be "good" :P at least was expensive
[21:49] <crazydip> shwaiil: it may be the router settings - i had something similar it had something to do with a stupid outdated router check that was used for backward compatibility with windows, but i don't remember what exactly
[21:49] <zykotick9> hdon: fyi if you create a ~/bin and logout/backin it will automatically be added to your PATH
[21:49] <shwaiil> crazydip: hi! i got the same card ? Well all other computers worked just fine... this is a new one... no one ever complained, even running older ubuntu versions with older computers
[21:50] <michealPW> Really?
[21:50] <michealPW> hrmm!
[21:50] <shwaiil> AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter - this is what i've got as driver for the killer wireless-n
[21:50] <hdon> zykotick9, i've never seen that. always added it in my shell profile myself
[21:51] <zykotick9> hdon: that is redundant ;)
[21:51] <hashar> hello there. Anyone familiar with upstart please ?  Igot  a job defined in /etc/init/foobar.conf  but   `start foobar` just says it is unknown.  I got no log in  /var/log/{daemon.log,debug,syslog}  :-(
[21:52] <hdon> zykotick9, apparently so!
[21:54] <crazydip> shwaiil: sorry, could not find a solution for you and i don't have any experience in network card problems
[21:56] <shwaiil> CrazyEddy: fine tks ;D
[21:59] <ceed^> is it possible to set it so that you toggle minimized and open when you click a program icon in the dash? The only thing that happens now is that the program is given focus, but when you click again nothing happens.
[22:00] <ceed^> Sorry, didn't mean dash, but the launcher
[22:00] <Dr_willis> ceed^,  i think ive seen some  ways to do that.. but never really looked into it. the webupd8 and omgubuntu blog sites may mention how to do it.
[22:01] <Benkinooby> hi, i want to adjust a directed antenna. is there a software that i can use to measure signal strength (with high time resolution)?
[22:02] <ceed^> Dr_willis: Thanks, I will look there and see if I can find it. I wonder why that isn't default behavior.
[22:02] <Dr_willis> ceed^,  because its now how they see peopld doing their workflow i guess.
[22:02] <TimothyA> how do I check what's thrashing a harddisk when there is nothing in iotop?
[22:03] <klop> hello
[22:03] <Dr_willis> I rarely minimize windows these days.  I tend to fullscreen them all and alt-tab around
[22:03] <klop> Did anyone has ever had problems with arrow keys?
[22:03] <ceed^> Dr_willis: Ah ok, I guess I'm old fashioned. i hardly ever maximize programs and use Alt-Tab once a week maybe.. :)
[22:04] <klop> In ubuntu... I have a fresh install and my arrow keys dont work
[22:04] <Dr_willis> ceed^,  unity has all sorts of hotkeys to jump about from differnt windows..
[22:04] <_alpha_> hi all - I've been trying to fix some graphics issues but now I can't get past the login screen (just bounces me back to login); however the guest session works fine
[22:04] <_alpha_> what do I do?
[22:04] <TimothyA> this is really starting to piss me off -_-
[22:04] <TimothyA> it just disktrashes randomly for no reason
[22:05] <klop> What is?
[22:05] <Dr_willis> ceed^,  in 12.10 i think theres some sort of previews for the windows from the launcher,  so minimizing is just the kind of thing ya dont do a lot.
[22:05] <TimothyA> and iotop says nothing is using the disk
[22:05] <Dr_willis> klop,  dont work in what app? do they work in the console?
[22:05] <ISTguy15> do you guys know how to make an ubuntu deployment server that can deploy windows and linux
[22:05] <klop> they don't work in bios when booting and don't work in Ubuntu at all
[22:06] <klop> but a USB keyboard works fine
[22:06] <Dr_willis> If they dont work in the bios.. it sounds like a hardware issue.
[22:06] <TimothyA> here, again.
[22:06] <klop> but they worked in windows before I installed Linux
[22:06] <TimothyA> it goes disk trashing
[22:06] <TimothyA> while there is NOTHING showing up in iotop
[22:07] <grandal_prime> grrrr pidgin-sip not working with lync
[22:07] <klop> Any idea what the issue might be?
[22:07] <ISTguy15> klop wats ur problem
[22:07] <ceed^> Dr_willis: I'm actually running 12.10 beta on this laptop. I haven't noticed much difference in the launcher yet
[22:07] <Dr_willis> klop,  try some differnt live cd/disrtos see if it works in any of them, check the console, see what 'dmesg' output is when you hit the keys..
[22:07] <klop> arrow keys not working
[22:07] <klop> after a fresh install of Ubuntu
[22:07] <ISTguy15> not working at all
[22:07] <ISTguy15> or just in ubuntu
[22:08] <klop> it worked in windows before installing Linux
[22:08] <TimothyA> http://pastebin.com/RFF5AtfK
[22:08] <ceed^> klop: You sure you have the correct keyboard setup?
[22:08] <crazydip> can someone please point me to a "for total idiots" explanation of what index is in git? i just don't get what the point of it is - i use bzr (and svn in the past)
[22:08] <ISTguy15> does it work in windows now and the bios?
[22:09] <klop> Doesn't work in bios neither.
[22:09] <ISTguy15> ok if it is an external keyboard it is probably broken or u messed a config up
[22:09] <klop> I do have the correct keyboard set up. all the other keys are working fine
[22:09] <ISTguy15> ok then it sounds like a hardware problem
[22:09] <klop> where can i find the keyboard config file?
[22:10] <crazydip> we'll if it's not working even in the bios then the keyboard is either broken or something wacked in bios settings
[22:10] <crazydip> klop: ^^
[22:10] <ISTguy15> if it doesn't work in the bios and every other key works its hardware
[22:10] <klop> Hmmm will have to play a bit more in bios then...
[22:10] <ISTguy15> reset ur bios by moving ur jumper from 1-2 to 2-3 then back
[22:11] <ceed^> klop: Dash > Keyboard Layout
[22:11] <ISTguy15> and if u still have the problem get a new keyboard and try
[22:11] <klop> thank you for help you all! My wife is getting annoyed with typing so it's time togo to sleep
[22:11] <crazydip> ceed^: but his keyboard does not even work in bios, so it's not an ubuntu issue
[22:11] <klop> I will try that...
[22:11] <ISTguy15> yea its hardware
[22:11] <ISTguy15> just try a new keyboard
[22:11] <klop> thanks ... night night you all.
[22:11] <ISTguy15> nite
[22:11] <crazydip> ISTguy15: or some insane bios setting :D
[22:11] <bigbill> I just setup a ubuntu file server for a small office and put it on the network. Now I want to be able to log in from home, but I'm lost on where to go from here. Any suggestions?
[22:11] <ceed^> crazydip: I see that now. Sounds like a hardware issue then
[22:12] <crazydip> night klop
[22:12] <Dr_willis> bigbill,  learn to use ssh so yuou can ssh in to it?
[22:12] <ISTguy15> yea dip it could be but that doesn't sound like it is possible
[22:12] <ISTguy15> but it could be computers do get out of wack like that
[22:12] <bigbill> yes I have putty open in another window now
[22:12] <ISTguy15> do you guys know how to make an ubuntu deployment server that can deploy windows and linux
[22:13] <crazydip> bigbill: setup ssh server (sshd) on the ubuntu file server and you can login from wherever you want, so long as you have network access to it (internet)
[22:13] <gordonjcp> bigbill: you'd need to open a port on the firewall in your office, to allow you to ssh
[22:13] <bigbill> I can access from within the lan, but how to I access it from outside the lan?
[22:13] <gordonjcp> bigbill: or if you feel brave, set up a VPN
[22:14] <gordonjcp> bigbill: look up port forwarding
[22:14] <ISTguy15> bigbill: you need to go into ur router and port foward ur ip with port number 22 (if that is ur ssh port)
[22:14] <ISTguy15> the default is port 22 for ssh
[22:15] <ISTguy15> have any of you guys played with ubuntu 12.10
[22:15] <ISTguy15> i dont really see too many changes except for the kernel update
[22:16] <bigbill> Ok so open a port on the router then I can see my ubuntu box? What security upgrades should I look into?
[22:16] <ISTguy15> can you elaborate on that more what do you mean by security upgrades
[22:16] <crazydip> ISTguy15: news items on 12.10 changes: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/tag/quantal
[22:17] <ISTguy15> thanks crazydip ill check into it
[22:17] <crazydip> bigbill: port forwarding explained: http://www.howtogeek.com/66214/how-to-forward-ports-on-your-router/
[22:18] <bigbill> well i don't want someone to hack into the system. so what should I do as far as security?
[22:18] <ISTguy15> change ur default ssh port to something else then foward that port, give ur system a static ip (internal of course), and make a complex password
[22:19] <ISTguy15> then you should be good
[22:19] <ISTguy15> thats all the security you should need
[22:19] <bigbill> ok, cool, thanks for the help
[22:19] <ISTguy15> yep
[22:19] <gordonjcp> ISTguy15: you don't need to change your ssh port
[22:20] <gordonjcp> bigbill: leave your default ssh port alone, it'll only confuse matters
[22:20] <ISTguy15> if u change the ssh port then people wont find it out as easy
[22:20] <ISTguy15> the default ssh port is 22
[22:20] <gordonjcp> ISTguy15: yes, but you don't need to change it on the server
[22:20] <crazydip> bigbill: from most secure to least secure 1) don't port forward, setup a VPN instead (lots of work) or 2) port forward and setup ssh key's and don't allow password logins (little work) or 3) make sure you have a crazy good password (least work). of course #3 should still be pretty darn secure
[22:20] <gordonjcp> just set something else as the external port when you forward it
[22:20] <ISTguy15> you dont but you can change it for better security
[22:20] <ISTguy15> he was looking for a way to be most secure
[22:20] <gordonjcp> ISTguy15: it makes no difference to the security
[22:21] <gordonjcp> ISTguy15: it's a bad idea to use anything other than the standard SSH port on the server
[22:21] <ISTguy15> you have to know the port number to access ssh through ssh
[22:21] <crazydip> bigbill: don't change your ssh port, it makes no difference to security since a simple scan will reveal you changed it anyway
[22:21] <gordonjcp> ISTguy15: it *does* help to forward it to an "unusual" port on the WAN-facing side of the router
[22:21] <ISTguy15> yea but u have to put more effort into the scan
[22:21] <gordonjcp> crazydip: eh, I've found it quietens things down a bit
[22:22] <gordonjcp> crazydip: it keeps the really lazy skript kiddies out
[22:22] <crazydip> gordonjcp: aye
[22:22] <Don__> lol
[22:22] <bigbill> right, a port sniffer is a pretty basic intrusion tool, a vpn sounds like fun, but would probably take away from my real work too much
[22:22] <ISTguy15> you could scan me and find none of my ports because my network firewall stops you
[22:22] <ISTguy15> linux is powre! :)
[22:22] <gordonjcp> bigbill: it's not actually that hard, particularly if you use pptp
[22:23] <gordonjcp> pptp isn't massively secure
[22:23] <gordonjcp> it's "good enough" but if someone is suitably determined they can probably find a way in
[22:23] <crazydip> gordonjcp, bigbill : if you intend to use password on server, a much better option than changing port is to setup fail2ban
[22:23] <ISTguy15> thats a lot more involved a strong password will be good enough
[22:23] <gordonjcp> yup
[22:24] <gordonjcp> bigbill: tbh if you were using pptp and I wanted to crack my way into your network
[22:24] <bigbill> so a failed password attempts bans that ip?
[22:24] <crazydip> bigbill: yes, and you set how many failed attempts and for how long the ban lasts
[22:24] <Num83rGuy> I have a D-Link DWL 520 wireless card that is recognized but has no MAC address and receives no stations. Could anyone help?
[22:24] <bigbill> cool
[22:24] <ISTguy15> wow i didn't know about that i might get that
[22:24] <gordonjcp> bigbill: I'd probably eschew actually fiddling around spoofing my way into your pptp vpn, and simply bundle you into the back of a van and apply a length of hydraulic hose to the soles of your feet, repeatedly ;-)
[22:24] <ISTguy15> fail2ban
[22:25] <gordonjcp> this is generally accepted as the most effective route to gain access to any network
[22:25] <ISTguy15> its actually not hard to get into a pptp vpn
[22:25] <gordonjcp> ISTguy15: yeah, you just kidnap an admin and torture them a bit
[22:25] <gordonjcp> it's pretty quick and easy
[22:26] <ISTguy15> haha ok
[22:26] <bigbill> haha, well, now i have a couple of things to read about at work all day tomorrow
[22:26] <crazydip> ISTguy15: fail2ban kills those chinese and russian script hack bots pretty quickly
[22:26] <gordonjcp> crazydip: yup
[22:26] <ISTguy15> good luck
[22:27] <ISTguy15> so i guess no one has a solution to my question
[22:27] <Num83rGuy> I am trying to figure out if I need to do more or if the card is bad or other.
[22:27] <Simbaa> anyone knows about free shell provider ? i want to make a eggdrop please help
[22:28] <crazydip> Num83rGuy: how to get it working: http://askubuntu.com/questions/146564/how-do-i-get-a-d-link-dwl-g520-working
[22:29] <crazydip> ISTguy15: what was your question?
[22:29] <ISTguy15> my question was do you know how to make an ubuntu deployment server that can deploy windows and linux
[22:30] <TimothyA> wtf...
[22:30] <TimothyA> there is NO DISK ACTIVITY
[22:30] <TimothyA> yet it's trashing the disk
[22:30] <TimothyA> WHY
[22:31] <Num83rGuy> crazydip: Thanks I will try that.
[22:32] <_alpha_> can anyone spot anything here: http://server1.tfountain.co.uk/xsession-errors.txt that might explain my X crash upon login? it just bounces me back to the login screen
[22:32] <_alpha_> that's my .xsession-errors file
[22:32] <_alpha_> if I login as guest it works fine
[22:33] <ISTguy15> alpha: are u running ubuntu
[22:33] <rainbowwarrior2> hello
[22:33] <_alpha_> yes
[22:33] <ISTguy15> alpha: ubuntu cant run the x windows interface with root
[22:33] <ISTguy15> it is a security hazard
[22:33] <rainbowwarrior2> hi, does anyone know a good mkv player for Ubuntu 12.04 as with vlc and others they skip please ?
[22:33] <_alpha_> that file is from my normal user
[22:34] <ISTguy15> thats most likely why
[22:34] <Ben64> rainbowwarrior2: mplayer2
[22:34] <ISTguy15> ok i saw it saying u were singing in as root
[22:34] <crazydip> ISTguy15: i never heard of massive windows deployments via linux... maybe you can by deplaying virtual servers somehow.. maybe this will help?: http://fai-project.org
[22:34] <rainbowwarrior2> Thank You Ben64 I will try that
[22:35] <ISTguy15> ok thx crazydip i have a linux deployment server running i just need to figure out how to do windows
[22:35] <gabrieluk> hi, i'm trying to make an rsync download to my local machine, but i have "not enough memory" errors. i cannot see why, as per the screenshoot there's space http://pasteboard.co/1349822068817944.png
[22:36] <_alpha_> ok that my have been a bad example as I was testing some stuff as root from the cli interface, howabout this one: http://server1.tfountain.co.uk/xsession-errors2.txt
[22:36] <ISTguy15> alpha: right here in ur report for the crash it even says "
[22:36] <ISTguy15> ** (gnome-user-share:2582): WARNING **: gnome-user-share cannot be started as root for security reasons."
[22:36] <_alpha_> that's just from a normal login
[22:36] <gabrieluk> 30.8 gig available
[22:37] <magdy1> السﻻم عليكم
[22:37] <BlackNarcissus> Hello everyone. I am using 12.04 on an Acer Aspire Netbook with Radeon HD 6290 graphics, I tried everything, different distros, proprietary drivers, free ones, but I can't get flash and html5 videos to play decently in any browser. Any help would be great. Thanks.
[22:37] <ISTguy15> so it crashes for normal users too
[22:37] <magdy1> hi
[22:37] <magdy1> can any body help me
[22:37] <_alpha_> yup sorry, ignore the first one, I'd jumped to the tty prompt to debug
[22:37] <ISTguy15> sure magdy
[22:38] <ISTguy15> ok
[22:38] <k1l> magdy1: if you ask in english, we could try
[22:38] <_alpha_> but yes as my normal user it crashes, but fine with guest
[22:38] <magdy1> thanks
[22:38] <magdy1> ok
[22:38] <[1]Snicers-Work> So I am trying to use apache with mpm-worker but I can't seem to get PHP with cgi to work all the time. Has anyone done this before?
[22:38] <ISTguy15> can i see the crash report for a normal user
[22:38] <magdy1> iwill try to makewhat i say in english
[22:38] <ISTguy15> ok
[22:38] <crazydip> can anyone explain to me what the point of index (staging area) in git is? i just don't seem to get it -- user of bzr and (long time ago) svn
[22:38] <_alpha_> the 2nd one: http://server1.tfountain.co.uk/xsession-errors2.txt is for my normal user
[22:38] <Don__> gaaaa   I forgot again.  How do I kill a hung process from the terminal?
[22:38] <magdy1> i want active my nvidia active
[22:39] <magdy1> *card
[22:39] <magdy1> nvidia card
[22:39] <k1l> magdy1: install the nvidia driver from the package-system?
[22:40] <k1l> magdy1: easiest one is to start "jockey" and klick on the nvidia driver
[22:40] <ISTguy15> _alpha_:  you can try to reinstall the X windows layer of the OS. I think it may be corrupt
[22:40] <magdy1> package-system = ubuntu software system
[22:40] <magdy1> or mot
[22:41] <_alpha_> I tried purging xserver-xorg and then reinstalling that and ubuntu-desktop
[22:41] <_alpha_> do I need to do some other packages as well?
[22:41] <crazydip> [1]Snicers-Work: you mean FastCGI?
[22:41] <magdy1> i install  nvidia driver and
[22:41] <magdy1> jocky
[22:41] <ISTguy15> _alpha_: are u using gnome desktop
[22:41] <_alpha_> yes
[22:42] <_alpha_> or whatever the default is
[22:42] <schultza> hold up.. if it's like my issue yesterday.. go into the directory and check for the ownership and permissions of the .Xauthority file
[22:42] <crazydip> [1]Snicers-Work: maybe this will help http://www.howtoforge.com/using-php5-fpm-with-apache2-on-ubuntu-12.04-lts
[22:42] <k1l> !nvidia | magdy1
[22:42] <ISTguy15> _alpha_: i would try to create a new account in tty first before i tell you what im about to
[22:43] <ISTguy15> _alpha_: do you know how to do that
[22:43] <justme_> i had alot of problems with ubuntu turns out i installed x32 and i have a x64 board now all works great since i installed x64
[22:43] <schultza> @_alpha_, who is the owner (user:group) of the file .Xauthority in the user who's graphic session is crashing?
[22:43] <Odra> How do you pronounce ubuntu?
[22:43] <_alpha_> schultza: seems to be root owned, should it be owned by the user?
[22:43] <magdy1> ok i will see this page and will ty to fix if any problem take place i will ask you to help me
[22:44] <ISTguy15> his error report doesn't say he doesn't have permission so it may be just his account since he can get it with guest
[22:44] <Odra> Wow this channel is flooded with flood bots!
[22:44] <BlackNarcissus> Hello everyone. I am using 12.04 on an Acer Aspire Netbook with Radeon HD 6290 graphics, I tried everything, different distros, proprietary drivers, free ones, but I can't get flash and html5 videos to play in fulscreen decently in any browser. Any help would be extremely welcome. Thanks.
[22:44] <_alpha_> hmm on this machine it is owned by the user, I'll try switching that
[22:44] <magdy1> but i want say all my problem is i canot make nvidia recommend active
[22:45] <magdy1> not install drive
[22:45] <schultza> @_alpha_: Yes
[22:45] <schultza> @_alpha_, $ chown user:user .Xauthority
[22:46] <schultza> from root of course.. .you may need to use sudo or sudo su -
[22:46] <SirSkidmore> #lpmc
[22:46] <SirSkidmore> woops
[22:46] <k1l> magdy1: do you have a error message? or which exact card that is? is this a hybrid card (a intel and a nvidia)
[22:46] <_alpha_> it works!
[22:46] <ISTguy15> i think it should be root owned because mine is
[22:47] <magdy1> nvidia
[22:47] <_alpha_> I'm in now with that fixed, thanks both
[22:47] <_alpha_> that must have got messed up by one of my earlier attempts
[22:47] <ISTguy15> nice to see u online
[22:47] <schultza>  /ʊˈbuːntʊ/ (using IPA) is how you pronounce ubuntu
[22:47] <_alpha_> found something online that suggested running startx from the recovery console (as root), guess that was a bad idea
[22:48] <_alpha_> and is it true that nvidia optimus is the root cause of all problems?
[22:48] <_alpha_> as it's causing me some grief on this machine
[22:48] <schultza> _alpha_, thats what i did.. and how i corrected it after hours of research
[22:48] <magdy1> Sorry, installation of this driver failed.
[22:48] <magdy1> Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log
[22:48] <magdy1> this is error message
[22:48]  * Simbaa anyone knows free shell provider on this network ?
[22:48] <k1l> _alpha_: dont use startx on ubuntu
[22:48] <magdy1> when i want make nvidai active
[22:49] <schultza> !pastebin @ magdy1
[22:49] <schultza> !pastebin
[22:49] <k1l> magdy1: can you upload this error file into a pastebin?
[22:49] <magdy1> pastebin  is website
[22:49] <_alpha_> k1l, yup, will know that for next time
[22:49] <magdy1> or smthing else
[22:49] <schultza> yes... post the info there and then give us the link
[22:49] <mschr> schiltza think its '|', pipe not '@'
[22:50] <k1l> _alpha_: ok :)
[22:50] <magdy1> something else
[22:50] <schultza> ok.. think like linux, not internet.. gotcha
[22:50] <shwaiil> Q: My wireless card is not properly supported in ubuntu 12.04, connections allways dropping etc. It's basically a bug and it's reported for some time now. My laptop is a Clevo (custom) and the card is     Killer Wireless-N 1102 802.11 a/b/g/n Mini PCI. If I need to change for driver support under ubuntu, what should I get ? Is there something that will work without problems ? Tks
[22:50] <schultza> or "cat [file] | pastebinit" and grab url to give to us
[22:51] <k1l> schultza: useless use of cat
[22:51] <eilyx> guys!
[22:51] <eilyx> $ showkey
[22:51] <eilyx> Couldn't get a file descriptor referring to the console
[22:51] <eilyx> help!
[22:51] <FloodBot1> eilyx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:51] <schultza> k1l: what is the better command to use for that
[22:51] <thawnet> any idea what would cause choppy mouse movement in virtual box running windows xp with 2gb of ram? main os is ubuntu 12.04
[22:51] <schultza> or does pastebinit act like cat but directly to pastebin?
[22:52] <k1l> schultza: pastebinit [file]   #no need for cat in this case
[22:52] <schultza> ah
[22:52] <SIR_Taco_> schultza: if you have the pastbin package installed that is
[22:52] <k1l> thawnet: guest additions installed?
[22:52] <schultza> i will on this computer. i had it on the other
[22:53] <mschr> eilyx: sudu!
[22:53] <schultza> k1l: didnt know pastebinit's capabilities yet, hence my use of cat
[22:53] <thawnet> k1l: No, but i'll install it now if that will fix it
[22:54] <genewitch> wgetpaste is pretty awesome
[22:54] <genewitch> and it doesn't need a package, you can just unzip it to your home directory
[22:54] <TimothyA> you have got to be kidding me... *strangles imagemagick*
[22:55] <schultza> genewitch, you still have to download something for wgetpaste, right?
[22:55] <eilyx> mschr, oh!
[22:55] <genewitch> schultza: yeah i guess
[22:57] <schultza> later all
[23:00] <Guest99744> anyone know how to get sound up in Ubuntu Studio so it works
[23:01] <WHOisAmanda> my usb mouse that i bought will not work with 12.04
[23:01] <magdy1> http://pastebin.com/URTpXkVf
[23:02] <ISTguy15> ok so i am running ubuntu 12.04. i have my ipod setup as a sound device through bluetooth and it says my music is playing though my laptop but i hear nothing through the speakers. can u help?
[23:02] <magdy1> i say the problem please help me to solve it
[23:02] <shwaiil> When is the new version coming out ?
[23:03] <WHOisAmanda> what is the deal with my mouse not picking up in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[23:03] <WHOisAmanda> it is a usb
[23:04] <ISTguy15> magdy1: your cards driver may just not be compatible with linux and if thats the case there is no solution
[23:04] <Don__> gaaaa   I forgot again.  How do I kill a hung process from the terminal?
[23:05] <shwaiil> Q: It's possible to update 12.04 to the newest beta version ? how ? tks
[23:05] <magdy1> istguy15: no in the past i make it acitve but my hard disk change
[23:05] <Cong> killall bash, it's an example.
[23:06] <Don__> thank you
[23:06] <buu> Hey, I'm running xubuntu on a laptop, can anyone point me in the direction of how to control what happens when you close the screen?
[23:08] <thawnet> So plugging in a ntfs sata drive to 12.04 system while its running... how do you see/mount the new drive and its contents?
[23:08] <ISTguy15> shwaiil: do the command "sudo apt-get install update-manager-core" then "sudo do-release-upgrade -d"
[23:09] <ISTguy15> thawnet: go to your file browser and go to /media and see if it is there
[23:09] <ISTguy15> if not u have to mount it through terminal
[23:09] <shwaiil> ISTguy15: the only reason I'm willing to do that is because I just got a new computer and my wireless card is always disconnecting. Killer Wireless-N
[23:09] <crazydip> magdy1: try this howto - there is a troubleshooting section when install fails: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[23:09] <shwaiil> It's been reported as a bug
[23:10] <shwaiil> but not sure how much time its going to take to be solved..so I'm trying to see if its fixed in the beta
[23:10] <ISTguy15> shwaiil: hardwire ur pc
[23:10] <shwaiil> Atheros Communications Inc. AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[23:10] <shwaiil> ISTguy15: it's a laptop
[23:10] <ISTguy15> shwaiil: hardwire ur pc (laptop)
[23:11] <shwaiil> spent so much money , I really don't want wireless pens or wire :I
[23:11] <thawnet> ISTguy15: only floppy and floppy0
[23:11] <ISTguy15> shwaiil: does it have ethernet port?
[23:11] <shwaiil> ISTguy15: the reason I mention laptop is because I bought it because its portable
[23:11] <shwaiil> I just want to solve the wireless thing
[23:11] <shwaiil> yes has ethernet but I don't want to use it
[23:11] <ISTguy15> shwaiil: oh srry wats wrong with it
[23:12] <shwaiil> ISTguy15: I have to stay in the same place all the time...or have a huge cable
[23:12] <shwaiil> all around the place
[23:12] <shwaiil> horrible
[23:12] <ISTguy15> shwaiil: whats wrong with ur wifi
[23:12] <shwaiil> https://bugs.launchpad.net/linuxmint/+bug/1040943
[23:12] <ISTguy15> shwaiil: please explain the problem
[23:12] <shwaiil> this is the issue
[23:13] <ISTguy15> ok ill look
[23:13] <shwaiil> that's just one launchpad
[23:13] <shwaiil> there's some more but atm I found that
[23:13] <Don__> gaaaa   I forgot again.  How do I kill a hung process from the terminal?  Cong: killall did not work
[23:14] <ISTguy15> shwaiil: your card/drivers may not be the most compatible with ubuntu
[23:14] <Cong> Don__, find the process with ps -A.
[23:14] <zykotick9> Don__: "kill PID#" or "killall processname" use -9 if the first version fails!
[23:14] <ISTguy15> shwaiil: how old is ur system
[23:14] <Cong> Don__, kill it with kill -9 (id)
[23:14] <shwaiil> ISTguy15:  this computer is brand new, got yesterday
[23:14] <shwaiil> installed ubuntu yesterday
[23:14] <shwaiil> 12.04
[23:15] <Cong> Don__, or kill -sig kill (id)
[23:15] <ISTguy15> ok well a generic wireless card may not be compatible with it... u may have to upgrade the wireless card. wat computer is it
[23:16] <omegaweopon> Hi everyone, potentially complex question here.  First: Computer set to autologin.  I installed Xubuntu, ran fine, suddenly however, it isn't.  It won't make it past the splash screen, but the system is set to autologon. I need to change the preferences so that it log onto unity instead. (Am currently on a flash drive live cd as I cannot log in to access things.)  Anyone able to help? (Sorry if this is a bit long)
[23:16] <Don__> invalid signal specification
[23:16] <zykotick9> omegaweopon: fyi, autologin = fail
[23:16] <shwaiil> it's a clevo w307er, i7 2.4, ssd 128gb, 500gb, gtx 660m, atheros wireless ar9462 (sold as killer wireless-n 1102)
[23:17] <shwaiil> at least ar9462 is what ubuntu installed
[23:17] <shwaiil> as a driver
[23:17] <omegaweopon> @zykotick where is that option, and where cna I change that?
[23:17] <wabash> Simple question: There is an Ubunto 10.10 installation in the office that *will* be upgraded within the month. But for a quick improvement -- how can I upgrade firefox right away? Is there something in Syntaptic to set the repositories to a newer version or something?
[23:17] <shwaiil> ISTguy15:
[23:17] <Don__> ok  lemmie try the kill -9
[23:17] <ISTguy15> you may need a different wireless card
[23:17] <xangua> wabash: download it from firefox.com
[23:17] <ISTguy15> omegaweopon: boot to ur regular system
[23:17] <bennypr0fane> Good evening! I'm trying to deactivate my Ubuntu keyring (which is not Gnome keyring anymore?). For this purpose I am following some instructions from german Ubuntu wiki to remove 2 lines from /etc/pam.d/lightdm. I wanted to save the original lightdm file under a different name first, i.e. rename it in temrinal using rename. I'm afraid I did something wrong there. Can someone help mr with the command?
[23:17] <zykotick9> omegaweopon: see "/msg ubottu tab" and i have no idea.  i'm just saying, that using autologin... if a bad idea.
[23:17] <wabash> xangua: Is there a way to do it through the ubuntu repositories?
[23:18] <xangua> wabash: as 10.10 is no longer supported, no
[23:18] <wabash> xangua: I'm aware of that. Is there a way to add a newer repository to the repo list?
[23:18] <ISTguy15> shwaiil: look for other drivers first
[23:18] <ISTguy15> omegaweopon: did you boot into ur system
[23:18] <wabash> "backports" I guess is what it's called?
[23:19] <omegaweopon> I'm on the computer I need to fix. I can't boot into the system, and still be here :X
[23:19] <shwaiil> ISTguy15: been trying so many different things in the lasst 4hours
[23:19] <ISTguy15> shwaiil: then u might need another card
[23:20] <shwaiil> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2035902
[23:20] <ISTguy15> omegaweopon: the way to fix it is to boot into ur regular system
[23:20] <ISTguy15> omegaweopon: im trying to help you
[23:20] <Don__> thousands of thanks to Cong and zykotick9       that did it!!
[23:20] <bennypr0fane> I was gonna look up the rename man and typed "rename man". a long process was started (went on until I closed terminal) and I'm afraid it may have done something terrible. Pls tell me not all man pages are deleted now or sth...
[23:21] <omegaweopon> ISTguy15 Yeah, I understand that, but how do I boot into the normal system without it logging on for me? Also when I do that, I won't be in this room to be able to take further instructions.
[23:21] <ISTguy15> just trust me i have my ways :)
[23:21] <omegaweopon> So you want me to restsrt my system completely?
[23:21] <OerHeks> bennypr0fane, rename = mv
[23:21] <bennypr0fane> is there an easier way to rename a file as root (easier than sudo rename....)?
[23:21] <ISTguy15> omegaweopon: im gonna message you so we have a private chat so ppl aren't flooding chat
[23:22] <pfifo> bennypr0fane, you should be ok, it likely didnt do anything
[23:22] <bennypr0fane> I really hope so
[23:22] <ISTguy15> omegaweopon: just go to the private chat
[23:23] <omegaweopon> Er. I'm on the webchat.freenode.net I didn't get a private tab..
[23:23] <bennypr0fane> Oerheks I have a wiki page right here says rename and mv are NOT the same
[23:23] <ISTguy15> ok ill tell you how to do it write it down
[23:24] <ISTguy15> when i tell you the steps tell me when to go to the next step
[23:24] <ISTguy15> omegaweopon: 1. boot to ur hard drive
[23:24] <ISTguy15> omegaweopon: 2. press ctrl + alt+ F3
[23:25] <ISTguy15> omegaweopon: 3. login to ur account in terminal
[23:25] <pfifo> bennypr0fane, rename (on my system) is a shell script that adds extra functionality to mv
[23:25] <ISTguy15> omegaweopon: 4. type "sudo nano /etc/gdm/custom.conf"
[23:25] <omegaweopon> Oh, mate actually. I think I got it. I was able to mount the file system, enter the lighdm configuration, and comment out the autologin line....
[23:26] <ISTguy15> yep thats it
[23:26] <ISTguy15> try it
[23:26] <omegaweopon> So, commenting that out should do that trick then?
[23:26] <omegaweopon> I'll be back to tell you if it worked.
[23:27] <bennypr0fane> pfifo it says differently in this wiki but nevermind, I just want to rename this one file
[23:27] <ISTguy15> wait did it say "AutomaticLoginEnable=true
[23:27] <bennypr0fane> pfifo "lightdm" to "lightdm.old" or whatever. I need to be root for that though. How can I do it?
[23:27] <yekoms> sudo su bennypr0fane
[23:28] <ISTguy15> type sudo for privilege  escalation for root
[23:28] <bennypr0fane> yekoms and then? the complete command would be awesome
[23:28] <pfifo> bennypr0fane, 'sudo -s' or 'sudo -l'
[23:28] <bennypr0fane> the rename command I need
[23:28] <pfifo> mv oldname.ext newname.ext
[23:29] <jrib> bennypr0fane: mind me asking why you're renaming lightdm?
[23:30] <omegaweopon> Mate, I am in, and golden.
[23:30] <ISTguy15> good
[23:30] <pfifo> jrib, hes backing it up
[23:30] <bennypr0fane> jrib yes, that
[23:30] <ISTguy15> did u completely get rid of AutomaticLoginEnable=
[23:30] <bennypr0fane> pfifo it seems mv is a lot simpler
[23:31] <omegaweopon> Did not delete it, I just commented it out.
[23:31] <ISTguy15> no u want to set it to false dont comment it out
[23:31] <basketballstar> when does ubuntu come out to the public for android
[23:31] <omegaweopon> Well, I can do that now that I am in, so that helps. I'll do that now.
[23:31] <Smackbook> i'm trying to get my hdmi audio out working, when I go into system settings > sound settings and choose the right settings for my hdmi chip on the hardware tab, I can test the left and right and hear the test voice, but none of the system sounds are being routed through there.  when I go into alsamixer and select the hdmi sound chip it shows spdif [,1,2] they all have 00 (not MM) but no volume bars (nothing happens when i press up and do
[23:32] <ISTguy15> ok its so u can use auto login again if u ever want to
[23:32] <bennypr0fane> right now I have "sudo rename s /lightdm/lightdm.keyring/" typed in will that do?
[23:32] <Jayflux> hey guys. i do useradd <usernmae> but when i type in users they don't appear there
[23:32] <Jayflux> is that by design
[23:33] <jrib> Jayflux: 1) you probably want to use adduser instead of useradd.  2) What do you mean by "type in users"?
[23:33] <jrib> bennypr0fane: you should step back and say what it is that you actually want to accomplish
[23:33] <seit> I was wondering if it was possible to install ubuntu directly onto a blank hard drive? I don't have a CD-ROM drive
[23:33] <Jayflux> jrib im writing a script and adduser seems interactive
[23:34] <jrib> Jayflux: yes.  A script to do what?
[23:34] <Jayflux> create me a new user, userad seems uninteractive to adduser
[23:34] <omegaweopon> For now, honestly this installation of Ubuntu is a temporary thing. I was using Crunchbang, but the drivers for my video card caused all sorts of nightmarish errors. So, for now I've got this installed while I learn which packages to throw together  to make my own Debian system. I made a few mistakes in the set-up of this, that I am just gonna "Live with".  Thanks for helping me in though. I'm not messing with my desktop environm
[23:34] <pfifo> seit, you need to boot ubuntu to install it
[23:35] <ISTguy15> yep no problem
[23:35] <basketballstar> when does it come out
[23:35] <ISTguy15> ill see you guys later
[23:36] <seit> pfifo, hmm, too bad.  I'll have to see what else I can come up with
[23:36] <jrib> Jayflux: I'm kind of confused... why would you write a script to do what adduser and useradd already do?
[23:36] <pfifo> seit, what are you working with?
[23:36] <Jayflux> jrib its a long setup, part of that setup is adding a user. I will be adding users automatically throughout the day. Not sitting there manually doing it. This will be automated
[23:37] <seit> I'm running an 11 install.  Have the 12.04 ISO and a blank hard drive I'd like to install onto.
[23:37] <Jayflux> jrib I think you're confused slightly, Im not trying to replace the functionality off adduser, instead im trying to use it automatically. A script won't work with the interactive adduser will it.
[23:38] <bennypr0fane> it's kinda stupid that the mv command is easier to use for renaming than the rename command...
[23:38] <pfifo> seit, you can use grub2 to boot an iso file
[23:39] <pfifo> bennypr0fane, I think rename is more geared towards bulk renames
[23:39] <bennypr0fane> jrib I already did say that
[23:39] <seit> pfifo, interesting, I'll have a look.  Thanks
[23:40] <jrib> bennypr0fane: well say it again
[23:41] <BlackNarcissus> Hello everyone. I am using 12.04 on an Acer Aspire Netbook with Radeon HD 6290 graphics, I tried everything, different distros, proprietary drivers, free ones, but I can't get flash and html5 videos to play decently in fullscreen in any browser. Any help would be extremely welcome. Thanks.
[23:41] <jrib> Jayflux: so explain what you mean by "type in users they don't appear there"
[23:41] <bennypr0fane> jrib: "I'm trying to deactivate my Ubuntu keyring (which is not Gnome keyring anymore?). For this purpose I am following some instructions from german Ubuntu wiki to remove 2 lines from /etc/pam.d/lightdm. I wanted to save the original lightdm file under a different name first, i.e. rename it in temrinal using rename."
[23:41] <warm> hi, i just updated my graphic card's driver, and the screen splits into six part. unfortunately my sudo user is not allowed to login to the xorg, how to solve it?
[23:41] <OerHeks> bennypr0fane, 'deactivate' your keyring with an empty password.
[23:42] <bennypr0fane> actually, in that Wiki it says to edit gdm (not lightdm) but that doesn't exist.
[23:42] <bennypr0fane> OerHeks but if the password's empty, doesn't mean it'll stop asking for it, right?
[23:42] <jrib> bennypr0fane: it means exactly that
[23:43] <BlackNarcissus> warm : You could boot into recovery mode from grub, it will give you a command line from which you can uninstall the faulty driver.
[23:43] <bennypr0fane> well no I already removed those lines from lightdm, was that wrong? should I undo it?
[23:43] <OerHeks> bennypr0fane, yes, and you still can store simple passwords for services.
[23:43] <bennypr0fane> *now I already...
[23:44] <Greg8823> Hey guys, I'm trying to update my 11.10 server to a 12.04 desktop. I installed 12.04 onto a flash drive but it doesn't seem to want to update at all. i ended up installing desktop from the Internet with the command line using apt-get ubuntu-desktop, but its still 11.10. i tried using the terminal and going through the update manager and even tried wiping the flash drive and trying again. When i tried using the update manager i
[23:44] <bennypr0fane> OerHeks: ...which I can't with the edited lightdm?
[23:44] <jrib> !upgrade | Greg8823
[23:44] <warm> BlackNarcissus: Is it wrong with the driver? I thought it might be solved by changging the nvidia-settings, which i am not authorized to with guest account...
[23:45] <Greg8823> alright thanks!
[23:45] <bennypr0fane> OerHeks Yes to what exactly?
[23:45] <jrib> Greg8823: you should just be able to launch update-manager and it will prompt you if you want to upgrade.  No flash drive necessary
[23:45] <OerHeks> bennypr0fane, asking too many questions afer another, yes ->  it'll stop asking for it
[23:46] <Greg8823> I tried that but it wouldn't accept my root pwd.
[23:46] <jrib> Greg8823: it's likely asking for your user's password
[23:46] <bennypr0fane> OerHeks: I already removed those lines from lightdm, was that wrong? should I undo it?
[23:47] <BlackNarcissus> warm: I don't know about your driver, but from the recovery mode you can run nvidia-xconfig and/or edit your xorg.conf file if you are comfortable with that.
[23:47] <warm> BlackNarcissus: As i was installing the system, i enterd three names, one is my real name, one is for the computer's name, the other is a user name, but the login window only has my real name on it, and the passwd for the only user i created won't work...
[23:48] <OerHeks> bennypr0fane, only if you want to revert the changes
[23:49] <Greg8823> I tried that as well, it says incorrect password. It says enter administrative password in the pop up prompt just like it would if i were installing other software.]
[23:50] <BlackNarcissus> warm: Check if you are typing the right password. It has been double-checked during install so maybe you are typing it wrongly when you try loging in. Check caps lock, keyboard layout, etc.
[23:50] <jrib> Greg8823: verify you typed the correct password
[23:50] <jrib> Greg8823: (it's your user password that it asks for).  Do you have a root password as well?
[23:50] <bennypr0fane> OerHeks: I removed these 2 lines from lightdm in order to get rid of the keyring:    auth optional pam_gnome_keyring.so
[23:50] <bennypr0fane> session optional pam_gnome_keyring.so auto_start     do I want to revert that, or will it get rid of the keyring for me?
[23:51] <warm> BlackNarcissus: ok, thank you for all
[23:51] <BlackNarcissus> warm: I think recovery mode gives you root so you can change settings from there. (Anyone correct me if i'm wrong)
[23:51] <OerHeks> bennypr0fane, not sure what howto suggests that, i wouldn't do it like that.
[23:51] <BlackNarcissus> warm: No problem
[23:52] <Greg8823> Yes and i tried both passwords multiple times.
[23:52] <bennypr0fane> Ubuntuusers.de, it's pretty much the first Ubuntu reference in german language
[23:52] <jrib> Greg8823: why do you have a root password?  How did you create it?
[23:53] <bennypr0fane> I think Greg8823 may be confusing root pwd with his user password, as I did just earlier today
[23:53] <bennypr0fane> I thought what I get asked for when I want to sudo is the root pwd
[23:54] <OerHeks> * the password of the first account created with setup, has root priv.
[23:55] <Raistlin-> hello all,
[23:55] <TimothyA> when there are errors on a RAID-0 ... what should I do? ;>_>
[23:55] <Greg8823> i have the administrative account that i dont use except for when i want to change the system, then i have my user account for  when most of my data and programs
[23:55] <bekks> TimothyA: Ensure you have your backup handy.
[23:56] <jrib> Greg8823: you need to be logged in with your administrative account (i.e. this is not "root")
[23:56] <Raistlin-> just wanted to thanks everyone for the help..I finally got ubunto to work...almost...
[23:56] <bennypr0fane> what's the term command for deleting a file?
[23:57] <benhem> rm
[23:57] <TimothyA> bekks: I do not
[23:57] <jrib> bennypr0fane: rm     (warning: you cannot reverse this, so make sure you know what you are doing)
[23:57] <jfeole> <bennypr0fan rm <filename>
[23:57] <TimothyA> and I am currently kicking my hosting partner to spin up a server so I can move this out ASAP
[23:57] <Greg8823> okay sorry for the confusion. But i am in my admin account and that password is not working
[23:58] <jrib> Greg8823: go to a terminal and write "sudo echo hi"
[23:59] <bekks> TimothyA: Well, then you dont have to worry ;) data not worth backing up is data not worth to be kept ;)
[23:59] <Greg8823> okay
[23:59] <Greg8823> i get hi back
[23:59] <Greg8823> it works there but not for the update
[23:59] <jrib> Greg8823: works in what sense?
[23:59] <TimothyA> bekks: just....
[23:59] <intothev01d> quick question. I'm going to set up an AWS EC2 instance and I can choose Ubuntu server 11.10 or 12.04. Is one recommended over the other?
[23:59] <Greg8823> it echos hi