[00:12] <silverarrow> firefox 16 just installed
[02:56] <Abhijit> hello
[02:56] <Abhijit> when will 12.10 be released?
[02:57] <silverarrow> some time this month
[02:57] <silverarrow> Abhijit: are you in a hurry?
[02:57] <Abhijit> ok.
[02:58] <Abhijit> no not much since 12.04 forced me to abandon buntu family
[02:58] <Daekdroom> !schedule
[02:58] <silverarrow> you could do release upgrade to beta 2
[02:58] <Abhijit> i just want to check if they have improved it in 12.10 so that i can come back
[02:58] <Abhijit> ok
[02:58] <silverarrow> improved what?
[02:58] <Abhijit> everything.
[02:58] <silverarrow> that is debatable
[02:59] <Abhijit> lets not debate then.
[02:59] <silverarrow> some packages are updated to latest
[02:59] <Abhijit> good to hear
[03:00] <silverarrow> if you are looking for newer versions of apps, it should be better
[03:01] <Abhijit> no I am not looking for newer versions of app. i can get it in any distro. i am looking for performance improvement. the 12.04 was working 1% and crashing 99% on my machine.
[03:01] <Abhijit> i need to restart now and then
[03:01] <Abhijit> my one freind checked the 12.10 beta and told me to try it
[03:01] <Abhijit> he told me its better
[03:28] <bjsnider> i'm assuming you reported bugs for all of these crashes
[03:42] <perscitus> I just realized why you don't do Transparent or Translucent  Dash.   It hurts the eyes if  you got web page and irc open. You can't focus on the icons.
[04:01] <pepee> sudo do-release-upgrade -d  failed to find a new version...
[04:02] <trism> pepee: you need to enable normal upgrades, software-properties-gtk, Updates Tab, near the bottom
[04:03] <pepee> how to do that in kubuntu/lubuntu?
[04:03] <pepee> I'd prefer to do it in the command line anyway
[04:04] <trism> /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades , Prompt=normal
[04:09] <pepee> I see, thanks trism
[07:55] <erle-> is 12.10 good enough for fun computers already?
[08:22] <sloerie> strangely, i cannot login with lightdm -- ls -a shows .compiz, but nautilus doesnt (seen from another user) -- hints and tips?
[08:27] <MonkeyDust> strangely, i cannot login with lightdm, using my normal user - i can login tty1 and i can login with another user and with guest -- ls -a shows .compiz, but nautilus doesnt (seen from another user) -- the funny thing is: i don't like/use compiz -- hints and tips?
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: is your user the owner of all of it's home directory?
[08:30] <MonkeyDust> ActionParsnip: yes
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: if you log in to a different session using lightdm, does it log in ok?
[08:31] <MonkeyDust> ActionParsnip: with the Guest and with another user I created, yes, just not with my normal user
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: so you cannot log into any session as your user?
[08:32] <MonkeyDust> ActionParsnip: i can when i use ctrl-alt-f1, just not in the GUI
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: what sessions are available to you?
[08:34] <MonkeyDust> ActionParsnip: i also installed fallback, cannot login Classic (no effects), either -- always with my normal user -- i can with any other user
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: if you install the xfce4 package, can you log into the XFCE session?
[08:37] <MonkeyDust> lemme try
[08:41] <MonkeyDust> ActionParsnip: things have gone completely wrong here, i'm gonna reinstall the whole thing - i don't even try to understand it anymore
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> your call
[08:53] <newman> hello everyone, installed ubuntu 12.10 beta2 but software cetre is not opening
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> newman: try running it from terminal, the output will give clues
[08:57] <newman> how can we run it from terminal
[08:57] <newman> and also dash is not showig apps for download and other online content
[08:58] <newman> i am behind proxy which requires authentication
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> newman: run:  software-center
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> newman: )not american spelling)
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> *note
[09:01] <newman> ahh, that worked i had extra file in /etc/apt
[09:01] <newman> It opened, thanks
[09:02] <newman> but dash is still not displaying online content like apps for download or wikipedia results
[12:58] <dupondje> telepathy-haze is not available ?!
[12:58] <dupondje> I mean, installed telepathy-haze, but can't configure the account types in Empathy?
[12:59] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> hi BluesKaj
[13:00] <BluesKaj> hey ActionParsnip
[13:31] <Guest55397> hi. anyone having problems in the upgrade to quantal?
[13:31] <Guest55397> I'm having an error with some kde packages
[13:36] <Guest55397> trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/kde4/imports/org/kde/runnermodel/librunnermodelplugin.so' which also in in the package plasma-active <version>'
[13:36] <Guest55397> how can I fix this mess? :/
[13:37] <Guest55397> I suppose this is because of some ppas I had, but I'm not really sure
[13:38] <Guest55397> is there any way to reconfigure the upgrade process? it says I'm already using quantal, but it couldn't even install the new kernel...
[13:51] <erle-> is it possible to install xorg-ati and fglrx at the same time in quantal?
[13:55] <Guest55397> erle-: IIRC, no, it's not, and if you do that one will overwrite parts of the other
[13:56] <Guest55397> erle-: check wiki.cchtml.com
[13:58] <erle-> Guest55397, ok, i knew that taht was the case in previous versions
[13:58] <erle-> thanks
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> Guest55397: sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-generic   (I assume the generic kernel)
[14:02] <L30n0v> hi all. i have some problem with updating python3-update-manager, update-manager, update-manager-core packages. they cannot be fetched from the http://hr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/update-manager/update-manager_0.174.3_all.deb  404  Not Found
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> L30n0v: tried a different server?
[14:04] <Guest55397> ActionParsnip: apparently it's fixed after doing apt-get -f install
[14:04] <Guest55397> and some updates
[14:04] <Guest55397> it's upgrading now
[14:05] <L30n0v> ActionParsnip: nope. just this one
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> Guest55397: cool
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> L30n0v: i suggest you try it
[14:05] <L30n0v> ok
[14:06] <Guest55397> erle-: I'd ask in #ati to be sure
[14:30] <CARL0S-> has something happened with GIMP? There's no master toolbox/diagolue any more. WTF. I just want to crop an image...
[14:32] <CARL0S-> the toobox is gone
[14:37] <Daekdroom> I'm slightly suspicious there's something hidden somewhere in a menu through which you can activate it.
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> CARL0S-: tried closing gimp then renaming the gimp config folder?
[14:38] <Pici> CARL0S-: IIRC, the version of the GIMP in Quantal has been updated to the new version which has a more photoshopy interface
[14:39] <CARL0S-> Pici: I know about the single-window mode, but it's not that. There's just no toolbox. I can choose to create a new toolbox, but there used to be a combined brushes/toolbox/etc. dialogue. I'll try clearing out the gimp config folder. Between this, and LibreOffice having all its menu options greyed out the other day, I'm getting a bit fed up. I suppose that's the price you pay for using beta software though.
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> CARL0S-: did you try the folder rename?
[14:43] <CARL0S-> well, there's a .gimp-2.6 and a .gimp-2.8 in my home directory. I just renamed them both, 1 sec.
[14:44] <CARL0S-> yeah that's fixed it. thanks :) I already did my cropping by using the right-click menu, but thanks ;)
[15:11]  * ActionParsnip knows why he uses pre-release :)
[15:49] <SpamapS> anyone else running quantal on a MacBookPro 5,1 or another system with a BCM4322 wireless chip?
[15:49] <SpamapS> my wifi seems to just stall out every few minutes
[15:52] <jokerdino> quick question, if my nautilus is missing dynamic quicklists, what should i be doing to troubleshoot?
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> SpamapS: arte there lots of networks on the same channel in your area?
[16:06] <SpamapS> ActionParsnip: no, and the MacBookAir sitting right next to it has no such issue
[16:06] <SpamapS> ActionParsnip: Have actually moved channels a few times to be free from interference.
[16:07] <SpamapS>           RX packets:1043972 errors:31 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:20332922
[16:07] <SpamapS> hmm!
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> SpamapS: can you ping 8.8.8.8 solidly?
[16:22] <pepee> I'm getting "Activation of org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit timed out", anyone knows what does it means?
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> pepee: are there any clues online?
[16:24] <pepee> lots of reports, can't find a solution, but I'm still searching
[16:24] <SpamapS> ActionParsnip: sometimes no
[16:24] <SpamapS> ActionParsnip: but it goes back down to the gateway
[16:24] <SpamapS> ActionParsnip: so I'm fairly certain it is the wifi, not the internet
[16:25] <SpamapS> ActionParsnip: as in, 192.168.0.1 .. my router.. will cut out at the same time the internets do
[16:25] <SpamapS> ActionParsnip: thanks for asking these questions. Sometimes it helps to just get these things out of my head...
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> SpamapS: after it drops, run:  dmesg | tail    it may give clues
[16:27] <SpamapS> ActionParsnip: its definitely all those frame errors
[16:27] <SpamapS> ActionParsnip: and dmesg shows nothing unfortunately
[16:28] <SpamapS> ActionParsnip: going to try new firmware
[16:57] <pepee> ActionParsnip, apparently rtkit is the problem, I removed it and no more error messages ("Activation of org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit timed out")
[17:35] <SpamapS> ActionParsnip: switched to the b43 driver.. no more troubles
[17:41] <bobweaver> hello there I am having some troubles and have been having them for like a week now. one night I lost etworking on my 12.10 partition so I looked at it and noticed that there was virtual networks enabled in ifconfig   I never set these up. how did this happen ?
[17:42] <bobweaver> I am affraid to use that partition now thinking that I might have been cracked
[17:42] <SpamapS> ActionParsnip: n/m, I think its something else. :-/
[17:42] <bobweaver> I have removed everything that has to do with virtual (kvm,qemu ect )  and they are still there
[17:44] <bobweaver> I guess my question is How to get rid of these things ? like in ifconfig I see vlan8 and 10 or something like that have not booted that partition in a week or so
[18:26] <rymate1234> hey
[18:26] <rymate1234> is there a way to downgrade from ubuntu 12.10 back to 12.04 LTS?
[18:31] <bjsnider> rymate1234, yes, but you're not going to like it
[18:31] <rymate1234> reinstall?
[18:33] <rymate1234> bjsnider, what is it
[18:33] <rymate1234> if its reinstalling, the meh
[18:33] <rymate1234> *then
[18:33] <bjsnider> yeah
[18:34] <rymate1234> yay
[18:40] <bjsnider> rymate1234, you might as well stick with quantal at this point
[18:40] <rymate1234> Ok
[19:48] <AaronCampbell> It looks like the proprietary driver for my video card is avail now.  What's the difference between fglrx and fglrx-updates?
[19:50] <AaronCampbell> My card is a RADEON HD6870 and I've had problems with it (mostly because it's powering 4 monitors).
[19:51] <AaronCampbell> So I'd like to try the proprietary drivers, but would like to know the difference between the two options first
[19:56] <bobweaver> AaronCampbell,  what is fglrx-amdcccle
[20:02] <AaronCampbell> bobweaver: I have no idea.
[20:03] <bobweaver> !info fglrx-amdcccle partner | AaronCampbell
[20:04] <bobweaver> AaronCampbell,  fglrx-amdcccle - Catalyst Control Center for the AMD graphics accelerators
[20:05] <AaronCampbell> bobweaver: Here is what I'm talking about: http://cl.ly/image/3y0Z2y1C0k34
[20:06] <AaronCampbell> Wondering what the difference between the second and third options is
[20:09] <bobweaver> AaronCampbell,  so there is a number of things that are different between updates and non we can look with command   apt-cache show fglrx-updates      or  apt-cache show fglrx    read the description
[20:10] <bobweaver> But to be honest I am not sure
[20:21] <bjsnider> -updates would be anew driver that has been released by amd
[20:26] <AaronCampbell> bjsnider: Thanks
[20:26] <AaronCampbell> bobweaver: Thanks to you too
[21:09] <augcampos> I there can some help me, with a ATI Radeon HD4850 in ubuntu 12.10
[21:10] <jonathonf> doesn't work with current fglrx
[21:10] <jonathonf> use the open source drivers
[21:11] <augcampos> every time I reboot the resoluton of 2nd monitor is set to 1024x768
[21:11] <jonathonf> at the login screen or once you have logged in? dvi or vga connector?
[21:12] <augcampos> after login, and is vga
[21:13] <augcampos> <---- script --->
[21:13] <augcampos> #!/bin/bash
[21:13] <augcampos> xrandr --newmode 1680x1050_60.00  146.25  1680 1784 1960 2240  1050 1053 1059 1089 -hsync +vsync
[21:13] <augcampos> xrandr --addmode DVI-0 1680x1050_60.00
[21:13] <augcampos> xrandr --output DVI-0 --mode 1680x1050_60.00
[21:13] <augcampos> xrandr --output DVI-1 --mode 1440x900
[21:13] <augcampos> xrandr --output DVI-1 --primary
[21:13] <augcampos> <--- script --->
[21:16] <jonathonf> i take it you've tried using Displays to set it up? I have a 5650 and use a 1280x1024 VGA from time-to-time, it sets up correctly after logging in
[21:17] <augcampos> I try but the 1680x1050 do not show in combobox
[21:18] <augcampos> after the script it'll but if I reboot I have to run script again :)
[21:21] <AaronCampbell> Thanks again to bobweaver and bjsnider - I moved to fglrx-updates and tried to use amdcccle to set stuff up, but it kept crashing the window decorator.  I pulled up my old config and found replaced my xorg.conf with http://pastebin.com/8xG7rbMN and then set up the displays with "System Settings" -> "Displays" and it works GREAT!
[21:22] <AaronCampbell> Video is responsive again and I can once again have the launcher on all 4 screens
[21:42] <augcampos> in ubuntu 12.10 how can i check if 3d is enable?
[21:42] <jonathonf> augcampos: glxinfo
[21:42] <jonathonf> sorry, i can't find anything to help with your monitor resolution :(
[21:43] <augcampos> thnaks any way
[21:46] <rye> Hello, is there a way to delete apps from messaging menu that does not involve dconf? I found this - http://askubuntu.com/questions/166655/how-do-i-remove-a-website-from-ubuntus-web-applications
[21:46] <augcampos> glxinfo anbd look for, what
[21:47] <BluesKaj> augcampos, glxinfo | grep OpenGL
[21:48] <augcampos> OpenGL vendor string: X.Org
[21:48] <augcampos> OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on AMD RV770
[21:48] <augcampos> OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 9.0
[21:48] <augcampos> OpenGL shading language version string: 1.30
[21:48] <augcampos> OpenGL extensions:
[22:01] <jpwhiting> hmm, something very weird is happening with pkg-config on quantal
[22:01] <jpwhiting> pkg-config --libs gweather-3.0 works fine, but pkg-config --cflags gweather-3.0 is giving some error about xproto not being there
[22:02] <jpwhiting> same with webkit-1.0 or anything else under /usr/lib/pkgconfig
[22:02] <jpwhiting> err, maybe not, it seems to be a problem in my jhbuild built pkg-config, doh :)
[22:11] <pepee> Hi. the subversion program in quantal crashes when upgrading some repo
[22:11] <pepee> I already reported the crash to someone in #svn
[22:12] <pepee> he told me to use subversion 1.7.7, ubuntu repos svn client is svn 1.7.5 (r1336830)
[22:13] <pepee> err he told me to try 1.7.7, to check if it's fixed
[22:47] <bobweaver> pepee,  did you file a bug on launchpad against this ?
[22:47] <n1ckn4me09876543> I have a question: how can I have dual boot operating systems with Ubuntu 12.10 and Windows 8 if I do a full hard drive encryption with ubuntu 12.10 ?
[22:49] <n1ckn4me09876543> Like how would Grub Boot loader works? because this is similar dilemma I had when encrypting with TrueCrypt.
[22:50] <pepee> bobweaver, no, I didn't, I'm gonna do it now
[22:51] <pepee> n1ckn4me09876543, ask in #ubuntu and ##linux too
[23:04] <zoktar> anyone had this issue with propierity nvidia drivers (edgers/with the special installer from ubuntu extreme), where only 2 resolutions are made availible. Max res and half of max res. Normally there would be about 10 more resolutions to choose from. 648x480,800x600 etc etc. without counting aspect ratio. id like to add atleast one more resolution of 1920x1200
[23:12] <zoktar> did xorg.conf get moved in 12.10?
[23:25] <AaronCampbell> zoktar: mine was still in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:28] <pepee> ok, reported. is this understandable?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/subversion/+bug/1065312
[23:59] <trippeh> Argh, someone removed the ipv6 mirrors, now all my networks are broken.
[23:59] <trippeh> Caaaanoniiicaaaal!!