[01:30] <bryceh> is there a way to change the session to log into from the console (ie when no keyboard available when on login screen)
[02:01] <bryceh> nm, found it
[04:27] <pitti> Bonjour
[05:49] <didrocks> good morning
[05:54] <pitti> bonjour didrocks
[05:54] <didrocks> guten morgen pitti. How are you?
[05:54] <pitti> I'm great, thanks! how are you?
[06:03] <pitti> hmm, http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/bug-fixing/quantal-fixes-report.html
[06:03] <pitti> didrocks: missing the old days of uploading unity? :-)
[06:03]  * pitti has to watch out for seb128 now
[06:03] <didrocks> pitti: right, I'm mostly sponsoring now
[06:04] <didrocks> well rather…
[06:04] <didrocks> fixing and then sponsoring
[06:04]  * pitti hugs didrocks
[06:04] <didrocks> pitti: it's weird
[06:05] <didrocks> pitti: even timo has 3
[06:05] <pitti> (I again forgot what this means in French)
[06:05] <didrocks> I think this doesn't count -proposed
[06:05] <pitti> no, it doesn't
[06:05] <RAOF> pitti: I've got a colord upload for you soon :)
[06:05] <pitti> RAOF: ack; updating sid chroot
[06:05] <didrocks> pitti: yeah, so as I upload most of my things to -proposed :p
[06:06]  * pitti pings bdmurray about that
[06:07] <pitti> didrocks: see, I win by not playing it safe!
[06:07] <pitti> . o O { way to go for a QA guy }
[06:07] <didrocks> pitti: that's totally unfair :)
[06:07]  * didrocks hugs pitti
[06:07]  * pitti takes the "cheater" penalty card
[06:07] <didrocks> heh ;)
[06:07] <pitti> well, I don't care about -proposed for arch:all packages
[06:08] <pitti> but I also didn't use it for things like gvfs, where it would make sense to some degree (no arch skew uninstallability, though)
[06:08] <pitti> but oh well, in a cycle or so everything will go there anyway
[06:10] <didrocks> yep ;)
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[07:11] <pitti> RAOF: FAOD, should I upload colord to Debian already, or will you ping me once it's ready?
[07:14] <RAOF> pitti: I'll ping you once it's ready.
[07:14] <RAOF> pitti: There's an extra fix on top of the -4 I've got tagged that should be uploaded.
[07:15] <pitti> RAOF: ack, thanks
[08:14] <MCR1> duflu, smspillaz: Hi :) Have you seen https://code.launchpad.net/~mc-return/unity/unity.merge-fix1006429-fix1006434-fix1063171/+merge/128745 ?
[08:15] <duflu> MCR1: No, I'm probably not reviewing anything today
[08:15] <MCR1> duflu, smspillaz: It is a one line fix disallowing to select the "Fade to Desktop" and "Show Desktop" plug-ins if Unity runs
[08:15] <MCR1> because Unity got its own code to show the desktop...
[08:16] <MCR1> I think it is a quite nice solution to multiple bugs
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[09:08] <seb128> Sweetshark, libreoffice made it to quantal proper (built on all arches), well done! ;-)
[09:27] <rodrigo_> hi
[09:27] <rodrigo_> what would be the best way to remove a repository from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ from code?
[09:27] <rodrigo_> I have added the repo via aptdaemon's AddRepository, but there's not RemoveRepository
[09:29] <glatzor> rodrigo_, How fast do you need the API?
[09:29] <rodrigo_> glatzor, like for today :)
[09:33] <glatzor> rodrigo_, call --system --dest com.ubuntu.SoftwareProperties --path / com.ubuntu.SoftwareProperties.RemoveSource "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com precise main"
[09:33] <rodrigo_> glatzor, oh cool!
[09:34] <rodrigo_> glatzor, but, your question was because you're planning to add it to aptdaemon's dbus interface?
[09:34] <seb128> rodrigo_, you can probably system("apt-add-repository -r ...") as well :p
[09:35] <rodrigo_> seb128, yes, was going to do that if there wasn't a better alternative
[09:35] <glatzor> rodrigo_, some years ago I wanted to port software-properties to aptdaemon (when it was still using sudo at those times). But somebody was faster by adding a Dbus interface to software-properties itself
[09:35] <rodrigo_> calling the dbus method glatzor mentions should be better
[09:35] <rodrigo_> glatzor, it would make a lot of sense in aptdaemon's, as that is used on debian also, right?
[09:36] <glatzor> rodrigo_, no. Debian moved away from the whole Ubuntu python-apt based stack
[09:36] <glatzor> rodrigo_, they are using packagekit now - with tons of regressions
[09:36] <rodrigo_> glatzor, ah
[09:37] <glatzor> rodrigo_, now they don't even have a gui to remove source :)
[09:37] <rodrigo_> debian users do it on the terminal, you know :D
[09:37] <glatzor> rodrigo_, thy also replaced software-center by gpk-application
[09:38] <glatzor> rodrigo_, that is true. Even the maitainers of the gnome desktop package don't update theirs systems with the packagekit updater
[09:38] <glatzor> so it was kind of non decision
[09:38] <rodrigo_> :D
[09:40] <glatzor> rodrigo_, It would make sense to promote a PackageKit method to disable repos
[09:41] <rodrigo_> glatzor, yes
[09:44] <glatzor> rodrigo_, where do you need this method?
[09:44] <rodrigo_> glatzor, it's an app I'm writing, an installer
[09:45] <glatzor> rodrigo_, you are not allowed to talk about it?
[09:46] <rodrigo_> glatzor, I think I am, but let me check 1st :)
[09:48] <rodrigo_> glatzor, no, I'm not sorry :(
[09:49] <glatzor> rodrigo_, your secret thing will use aptdaemon for installing?
[09:50] <rodrigo_> yes
[09:54] <pitti> salut seb128, ça va?
[09:54] <pitti> hey rodrigo_, how are things?
[09:54] <rodrigo_> hey pitti
[09:54]  * pitti waves Servus to glatzor
[09:54] <rodrigo_> pitti, I'm fine, and you?
[09:55] <glatzor> juhu pitti !
[09:55] <pitti> rodrigo_: I'm great, thanks!
[09:55] <glatzor> pitti, your a getting a real Bavarian!
[09:55] <glatzor> you are
[09:55] <pitti> aaargh nooo aargh
[09:56] <pitti> (1) I look crap in Lederhosen, (2) I never went to the Wiesn, (3) I can't hide my accent, (4) I don't vote CSU :)
[09:56] <glatzor> power through assimilation! my girlfriend said "grüß gott" by accident at her last visit at "home" in Brandenburg, too
[09:57] <pitti> glatzor: I'm fine with "Servus", but I refuse to say "grüß gott"; I'm an atheist, and it would feel like Blasphemy
[09:58] <glatzor> pitti, you cannot be an atheist by living in Bavaria. You have to believe in god if you see the Bavarian beauty!
[09:58] <rodrigo_> what does "grüß gott" mean?
[09:58] <glatzor> pitti, Der liebe Herr gott is all around :)
[09:59] <pitti> rodrigo_: literally, "greet god"
[09:59] <glatzor> rodrigo_, it is Bavarian and is a short form of "dem gott zu grüße"
[09:59] <pitti> rodrigo_: but it's really the Bavarian way of saying "Good day" or "hello"
[09:59] <rodrigo_> ah, it's probably the same reason why we say "adios" for bye in spanish, which would mean "to god"
[10:00] <rodrigo_> lots of catholic roots in Europe :D
[10:00] <pitti> glatzor: fun thing is, when I'm in a Biergarten or pub with some friends here, we are usually some 6 or 7 people from East Germany and one West German guy from Oldenburg :)
[10:00] <pitti> rodrigo_: oooh - "a dios", that makes sense
[10:00] <pitti> languages are fun
[10:00] <rodrigo_> pitti, yeah, not sure if that's the root, but I guess so
[10:01] <pitti> in fact, just two days ago I had this enlightenment in the kitchen where I suddenly realized why the plural of "Monsieur" is "Messieurs" and what it actually means
[10:01] <pitti> thanks to the couple of French lessons I've done now :)
[10:03] <rodrigo_> glatzor, s-p's RemoveSource should work, right?
[10:03] <rodrigo_> so if I'm getting weird python backtraces, is because I'm making the call incorrectly, right? :)
[10:05]  * glatzor waves mvo
[10:05] <glatzor> rodrigo_, indeed. there aren't any security checks in the software-properties dbus API :/
[10:06] <glatzor> rodrigo_, It is just a way to access the internal API of software-properties
[10:07] <mvo> hey glatzor
[10:12] <glatzor> rodrigo_, you have to use the complete line (including the comment)
[10:12] <rodrigo_> glatzor, ah, that's it, the comment
[10:12] <glatzor> rodrigo_, take a look at aptsources.sourceslist.SourceEntry.str()
[10:12] <glatzor> rodrigo_, you have to match the return value of this method
[10:20] <RAOF> pitti: Please let slip the dogs of colord; the debian/0.1.21-4 tag should be good to go.
[10:21] <pitti> RAOF: ack, doing now
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[11:14] <mhr3> seb128, is it known that gvfsd-http leaks quite a bit?
[11:15] <mhr3> miso      6153  0.0  8.7 1588040 352324 ?      Sl   Oct08   0:23 /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-http --spawner :1.7 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/1
[11:15] <mhr3> yes, that's 350mb resident memory
[11:39] <seb128> re
[11:40] <seb128> pitti, salut
[11:40] <seb128> pitti, sorry I was out for some errands and I got lunch on the way as well
[11:40] <seb128> pitti, wie gehts?
[11:40] <seb128> mhr3, not known I think no...
[11:56] <pitti> seb128: gut, danke! just back from lunch
[11:57] <seb128> pitti, same here ;-)
[11:58] <pitti> seb128: now back to writing g-s-d power tests
[11:58] <seb128> g-s-d tests \o/
[11:58] <pitti> seb128: fun thing is, the very first test I tried to write uncovered a bug
[11:58] <seb128> oh, nice
[11:58] <pitti> suspending on the configured idle timeout doesn't actually work
[11:58] <pitti> I was pulling my hair out to see what's wrong with my test
[11:58] <pitti> seb128: it's fixed in upstream master, but not in 3.4.2 yet
[11:59] <seb128> seems like a bug worth trying to fix for release?
[11:59] <pitti> oh, right, we have 3.4
[12:00] <pitti> it's fixed in 3.6
[12:00] <pitti> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=668703
[12:00] <ubot2> Gnome bug 668703 in power "Blanking only works right when gsettings align" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]
[12:00] <pitti> not exactly trivial patch, though
[12:03] <cyphermox> morning'
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[12:05] <seb128> pitti, could be better for SRU then...
[12:05] <seb128> cyphermox, hey, how are you?
[12:05] <cyphermox> seb128: good, you?
[12:06] <seb128> cyphermox, good as well, thanks ;-)
[12:06] <cyphermox> time to get started on srus
[12:06] <cyphermox> or finished, rather
[12:07] <seb128> nah
[12:07] <seb128> SRUs are never finished ;-)
[12:07] <cyphermox> I mean the ones that were started ;)
[12:07] <cyphermox> and my stuff is mostly bug free, thank you very much, so it does tend towards being finished at one point :P
[12:08] <cyphermox> (i wish)
[12:09] <seb128> lol
[12:52] <bcurtiswx> i 'accidentally' clicked suspend on my desktop. Then upon resume it failed miserably. I have a bug report being automagically generated with title [Gateway GT5628] suspend/resume failure [non-free: nvidia]. Since it's a desktop and suspend/resume will this report be beneficial ?
[13:00] <xnox> bcurtiswx: yes.
[13:01] <xnox> bcurtiswx: the fact that you are offered suspend, implies that Ubuntu thinks it will work.
[13:01] <xnox> bcurtiswx: if it doesn't we either need to fix it, or blacklist that hw to not show suspend.
[13:04] <Sweetshark> seb128: thanks for well done, but ... :/
[13:04] <Sweetshark> seb128: bug 1064962 is meh. Can be an unity issue just as well though ...
[13:04] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1064962 in unity "Global menubar items do not work when opening a document directly from nautilus with no LibreOffice instance running" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1064962
[13:04] <seb128> Sweetshark, is there still an issue?
[13:05] <seb128> arg
[13:05] <Sweetshark> opened one hour ago.
[13:08] <seb128> Sweetshark, it's not specific to nautilus
[13:09] <seb128> Sweetshark, doing "lowrite $document" on a command line has the same issue
[13:09] <seb128> that sucks :-(
[13:09] <Sweetshark> seb128: oh, really? that always works here.
[13:09] <seb128> Sweetshark, lowrite some.doc has no menu here
[13:11] <Sweetshark> seb128: it sometimes takes half a second for the appindicator to realize it, but it is there here.
[13:14] <seb128> Sweetshark, in fact it works if I focus lo out and back in
[13:15] <Sweetshark> seb128: well, than it is pretty certain a unity issue and not a LibreOffice one as LibreOffice doesnt do anything on focus/unfocus.
[13:15] <dupondje> Guys, what happend to Empathy? Accounts are only configurable in 'Online Accounts' ? There I can select telepathy-haze backends. And the MSN Live backend is just ****, it doesn't even show correct email addresses for my contacts :(
[13:16] <bcurtiswx> xnox bug #1065023 gotta run to work, have a good day everyone
[13:16] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1065023 in linux "[Gateway GT5628] suspend/resume failure [non-free: nvidia]" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1065023
[13:16] <jbicha> dupondje: does running empathy-accounts manually still work?
[13:16] <Sweetshark> seb128: can we scramble someone from unity to look at why it doesnt realize the menu is there without refocus sometimes?
[13:17] <seb128> dupondje, is that under unity or GNOME (gnome-online-account or ubuntu-online-account)
[13:18] <jbicha> dupondje: do you have account-plugin-windows-live installed?
[13:18] <seb128> Sweetshark, you can try, but since no other app is having the issue I doubt it's on their side
[13:18] <dupondje> jbicha: empathy-accounts works indeed. And its Unity
[13:18] <dupondje> ii  account-plugin-windows-live               0.8-0ubuntu1                              amd64        GNOME Control Center account plugin for single signon - windows live
[13:19] <dupondje> yep
[13:19] <jbicha> empathy-accounts isn't exposed in Empathy's menus now though :(
[13:19] <seb128> well, the online account stuff should work
[13:19] <Sweetshark> seb128: could you check if with d-feet if there is a menu exported for the window even when you dont see one?
[13:19] <seb128> Sweetshark, you can't reproduce the issue?
[13:20] <dupondje> jbicha: indeed, it only shows 'Online Accounts' which doesn't have telepathy-haze types
[13:20] <seb128> Sweetshark, well, when I double click on a .doc in nautilus I never get a menu, not even after focus out and in
[13:21] <seb128> dupondje, what do you call "telepathy-haze types"?
[13:22] <dupondje> pidgin-sipe, sametime etc
[13:22] <dupondje> account types that telepathy-haze exposes
[13:22] <Coolzero> can anyone help with.. perl: warning: Setting locale failed,  newest desktop build, i had this before and didnt matter what i did, new install so i dont want to mess it up more. What should i change and where?
[13:23] <seb128> dupondje, telepathy-haze is the libpiding glue right? it expose msn, etc as well (e.g everything pidgin support)
[13:23] <dupondje> seb128: indeed
[13:23] <seb128> dupondje, but msn should work without haze
[13:24] <dupondje> seb128: it works yes, gives me some id@messenger.live.com as emailaddress for all my contacts
[13:24] <dupondje> isn't really cool ... :)
[13:24] <seb128> dupondje, what was it giving your before?
[13:24] <seb128> xclaesse, ^ is that a known issue?
[13:24] <dupondje> the email of the contact ?
[13:24] <seb128> dupondje, well, that's their id no?
[13:25] <dupondje> e011ac8672922d83@messenger.live.com
[13:25] <dupondje> for example
[13:26] <dupondje> not really their @live.com or @hotmail.com address ..
[13:27] <seb128> dupondje, let's wait for xclaesse
[13:27]  * xclaesse reads backlog
[13:28] <xclaesse> dupondje, it does MSN via XMPP
[13:28] <xclaesse> it does not use reverse engineered protocol from pidgin (tp-haze) anymore
[13:29] <dupondje> chatting works, but the address shown for the accounts is extremely annoying
[13:29] <dupondje> got 2 persons online with same nickname
[13:29] <xclaesse> because MS are trying to use std protocol, we should encourage them that way, IMO
[13:30] <xclaesse> dupondje, it's the same as facebook
[13:30] <xclaesse> also, their XMPP service is the only legal and officially supported way for third party apps to connect to MSN
[13:31] <xclaesse> even if they never really complained against pidgin
[13:31] <dupondje> xclaesse: except that facebook has no nicknames? but always uses contacts full name?
[13:31] <dupondje> which is not the case on MSN, which makes it really annoying if 2 contacts have same nickname
[13:32] <xclaesse> dupondje, right.... nicknames are so 90s teenagers, though
[13:33] <dupondje> if they only use their prename as nickname, yea :)
[13:33] <dupondje> then you need to trial & error to contact the correct person
[13:33] <xclaesse> that's a social problem, not technical :/
[13:33] <xclaesse> but I understand it can be annoying
[13:34] <xclaesse> but who on earth still use MSN, when you have facebook chat?
[13:34]  * Laney ←
[13:34] <dupondje> well with telepathy-haze, it showed the contacts emailaddress (which is unique), to find out who is who. but thats impossible now
[13:34]  * seb128 as well
[13:34] <dupondje> and I guess alot of people still use msn indeed
[13:35] <seb128> but I'm anti-facebook on the principle that they have too many users and too much info and not enough respect for private life
[13:35] <xclaesse> In my entourage android users uses gtalk and the rest facebook. I haven't seen anyone online on MSN for years :(
[13:36] <xclaesse> s/:(/\o// actually :p
[13:36] <dupondje> for example @ work we use msn, so I use it daily
[13:36] <dupondje> now 5 collegues have same prename
[13:36] <xclaesse> but that really depends on the friend circles I guess
[13:36] <dupondje> so i'm **** :)
[13:36] <seb128> dupondje, get them to fix their nicknames ;-)
[13:36] <xclaesse> dupondje, tell them to be professional and use their real name? :/
[13:37] <dupondje> but its technically not possible to not use the id, but their emailaddress?
[13:37] <xclaesse> with XMPP, no
[13:37] <xclaesse> that's what the server gives us
[13:38] <xclaesse> and with Ubuntu's online account you cannot use tp-haze for MSN anymore
[13:38] <dupondje> to bad :) cause XMPP is good step for MSN indeed
[13:38] <xnox> xclaesse: msn had ~ 40% market share in 2011, don't think it plunged that quick.
[13:38] <xclaesse> well, maybe you can by running empathy-account in a terminal
[13:39] <dupondje> well you can with empathy-account, but thats not straight forward for not really technical persons :)
[13:39] <xclaesse> xnox, yeah totally depends on your entourage
[13:39] <seb128> xnox, I doubt it's true
[13:39] <xclaesse> here it went from 100% to 0% in something like 1 year
[13:39] <seb128> xnox, might be true in a particular country though
[13:39] <xnox> xclaesse: not sure what protocol ms is using for the corporate server msn.
[13:39] <xnox> seb128: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-Live-Messenger-Is-King-among-IM-Clients-Worldwide-206005.shtml
[13:40] <dupondje> xnox: Lync/Office Communicator?
[13:40] <xnox> seb128: xclaesse: and I hope that does not count skype users.
[13:40] <xnox> dupondje: yeah. is it same protocol as msn? (it wasn't in the past...)
[13:40] <dupondje> xnox: nope, its a SIP fork
[13:41]  * xnox ...
[13:41] <dupondje> supported by pidgin-sipe btw :)
[13:42] <xclaesse> xnox, wondering how they count that, btw
[13:42] <xclaesse> how could it count msg sent via gmail/facebook web page?
[13:43] <Sweetshark> seb128: still no trouble running it from the commandline, but issues when starting directly from nautilus. I saw an empty menu now once for that and it is also empty on dbus, so there is stuff that needs to be fixed on the libreoffice side.
[13:43] <xnox> i have faceboot chat & what'sapp on my phone and irc on the desktop and faceboot via web on the desktop. i don't use gtalk anymore.
[13:45] <seb128> Sweetshark, one thing nautilus might be differently is its environment
[13:45] <seb128> Sweetshark, like it will have DISPLAY=:0.0 rather than =:0, that creates some issue with other apps single instance stuff so I mention it in case that's useful
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[13:49] <Sweetshark> seb128: It might be a regression from antonios fix for the menubar in gnome-classic. IIRC I had explicitlty set the menubar to always return true to isVisible() calls, and toni changed that, thus LO might thing it doesnt need to populate an invisible menu ....
[13:54] <dupondje> xclaesse: btw, removing contacts on msn seems to be broken here, same as adding contacts in a group
[13:55] <xclaesse> dupondje, removing contacts is not supported by server
[13:55] <xclaesse> groups, I don't kno
[13:55] <xclaesse> know
[13:55] <xclaesse> btw, for adding contacts, you need tp-gabble 0.17.something which ubuntu quantal did not package
[13:56] <dupondje> so adding/removing and put contacts in groups is not supported?
[13:56] <xclaesse> because there is a special trick to convert the email address to the xmpp id to make possible to add the contact
[13:56] <dupondje> :(
[13:57] <xclaesse> I think you can manage you contact list on their website, no?
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[13:59] <dupondje> xclaesse: true, but thats kinda a regression for people adding MSN on quantal, and see all those things are broken
[14:00] <xclaesse> that's the price to pay for using a service MS officially support
[14:00] <xclaesse> pidgin/tp-haze can stop working at any moment
[14:00] <xclaesse> MS just have a button to press
[14:01] <xclaesse> and they did it repeatedly already
[14:01] <dupondje> yea I know, its *** :)
[14:01] <dupondje> messages not receiving etc
[14:01] <dupondje> but I guess we should document it a bit? Else people will start creating bugs about it I guess
[14:03] <xclaesse> yep some documentation would be nice...
[14:03] <dupondje> btw, alot of changes in telepathy-gabble? maby its worth to get in Quantal?
[14:03] <xclaesse> btw, MS devs are pretty responsive on http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/messengerconnect/threads
[14:03] <xclaesse> if you wish to ask questions
[14:04] <xclaesse> dupondje, the only addition in tp-gabble is the hack to add MSN contacts
[14:04] <xclaesse> we did not make a stable branch for GNOME 3.6 though
[14:04] <xclaesse> I guess it's too late for quantal anyway
[14:04] <dupondje> if thats the only change, it wont hurt to get it into quantal ?
[14:04] <xclaesse> but it's not me to decide, I'm upstream dev, not ubuntu dev
[14:04] <dupondje> seb128: ^
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[14:21] <chrisccoulson> ok, my head hurts
[14:21] <chrisccoulson> exercise time
[14:22] <mterry> mvo, I triggered the "untrusted source" webapps error with a debug aptd running, and I didn't see any output in the aptd console
[14:22] <mvo> mterry: no output there at all?
[14:22] <mvo> mterry: or just nothing that looks interessting?
[14:23] <mterry> mvo, no output at all when I clicked on "install" for the webapp and a password dialog came up
[14:24] <Sweetshark> seb128: hmmm, it seems a session restart fixes this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1064962/comments/5
[14:24] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 1064962 in libreoffice "Global menubar items do not work when opening a document directly from nautilus with no LibreOffice instance running" [High,Confirmed]
[14:25] <Sweetshark> seb128: well, the unfocus/focus stuff is still there, but not the nonworking menu.
[14:27] <xclaesse> dupondje, interesting facebook VS msn chat stat: GOA has 8802 monthly facebook users and 9717 monthly msg users
[14:27] <xclaesse> s/msg/msn/
[14:30] <mvo> mterry: hm, that is confusing
[14:30] <mvo> mterry: there is no real packagekit installed/running on your box by chance?
[14:31] <mterry> mvo, there is
[14:31] <mvo> mterry: aha, I suspect that is actually the problem, webapps is using the real PK api  so if there is a PK installed it will take precedence
[14:34] <mterry> mvo, and it doesn't have the magic no-password patch...
[14:34] <mvo> mterry: exactly :/
[14:34] <mvo> mterry: it still should not have a scary message just the normal "do you really want to install" one
[14:35] <mterry> mvo, fair.  It's just universe
[14:35] <Sweetshark> seb128: so, after restarting my session the menu (if there) always works. However, it might need an unfocus/refocus to appear. _That_ is highly likely a unity issue.
[14:51] <Sweetshark> ping to unity guys: Can you have a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1064962 ? It seems the window property are good, the menu on the dbus is good, yet the indicator doesnt show anything. Do you have any hints?
[14:51] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 1064962 in libreoffice "Global menubar items do not work when opening a document directly from nautilus with no LibreOffice instance running" [High,Confirmed]
[14:52] <Sweetshark> (well, it does show after refocus)
[14:54] <didrocks> sil2100: ^
[14:55]  * sil2100 looks
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[15:01] <sil2100> tedg: maybe you could take a look? ^
[15:54] <dpm> pitti, I see from the logs that you've already taken care of building the final language packs?
[16:23] <pitti> dpm: err, no? that was still cron'ed
[16:23] <pitti> dpm: or not my doing
[16:24] <pitti> dpm: on whose plate is that, you or me?
[16:25] <dpm> pitti, ah, I saw the log for today and thought it was for the full langpack. I told skaet I could look into it, but might need some help from you if something went wrong. So the full export is there and I will start building the langpacks
[16:28] <pitti> dpm: thanks!
[16:28] <pitti> dpm: I just noticed a gazillion rejected langpacks in my inbox today
[16:28] <pitti> dpm: presumably the release team rejected the updated ones from the cronjob
[16:28] <pitti> dpm: I disabled the quantal cron job now
[16:28] <dpm> pitti, ok
[16:30] <jbicha> dpm: how does the export work? I think ubuntu-docs was a few hours late for the deadline but perhaps it was still included?
[16:31] <dpm> jbicha, pitti can confirm, but I think it should be ok, as it's langpack-o-matic, which is going to run now, what fetches the ubuntu-docs translations
[16:32] <pitti> jbicha: right, this is not related to the LP export
[16:32] <pitti> jbicha: the final ubuntu-docs needs to be _built_ (not even published) before starting langpack-o-matic, that's it
[16:32] <pitti> lp-o-m grabs the tarballs straight out of the build librarian
[16:33] <jbicha> langpack-o-matic should have been ran yesterday though, right?
[16:35] <dpm> jbicha, it used to take ~24h for the langpacks to be generated, so langpack build is usually started the day after. The latest ones have taken much less, and the export yesterday was actually ready in the afternoon, but I didn't realise
[16:36] <pitti> well, it's Wednesday, if we get them built tomorrow or Friday that should suffice?
[16:37] <Laney> skaet was hoping for candidates tomorrow
[16:40]  * didrocks waves good evening
[16:43] <pitti> bonsoir tout le monde!
[17:37] <bcurtiswx> window buttons now on right again. and I just got used to them being on the left. :P
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[18:32] <jbicha> bcurtiswx: what desktop are you running? do you have ubuntu-desktop installed?
[18:39] <bcurtiswx> jbicha, thanks. IDK how this laptop didn't have ubuntu-desktop
[18:39] <bcurtiswx> fixed ;)
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[19:15] <micahg> seb128: and idea why the javascript core libraries for webkit have no symbols?
[19:15] <micahg> s/and/any/
[19:15] <seb128> micahg, no...
[19:16] <micahg> hrm, no I have to figure out if the missing symbols moved to the new library or were lost...ok
[19:16] <micahg> *now
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[22:00] <Sweetsha1k> desrt: ping?
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[23:07] <robert_ancell> kenvandine, around?
[23:12] <robert_ancell> kenvandine, wondering if your Vala knowledge might know the answer to bug 1065310
[23:12] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1065310 in libappindicator "Can't inherit from AppIndicator.Indicator in Vala" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1065310
[23:21] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, don't you just hate it when you finish work at 0:20, and then realize there's a kitchen full of washing up to do before you can go to bed :/
[23:26] <TheMuso> chrisccoulson: Yeah I know the feeling.
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