darkxst | robert_ancell, perhaps you can take a quick look at this patch? Barry uploaded it to proposed, but didnt understand the patch. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1064269 | 00:29 |
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ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1064269 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "When running lightDM user switching doesnt work" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 00:29 |
robert_ancell | darkxst, looking now | 00:30 |
darkxst | robert_ancell, thanks | 00:49 |
darkxst | robert_ancell, is there a way to get session list from lightdm via dbus? I.e for gdm they do this Gdm.get_session_ids().length to determine correct labels for the usermenu items | 02:38 |
robert_ancell | darkxst, no, that functionality is in the helper library liblightdm | 02:52 |
darkxst | robert_ancell, oh yeh, of course! | 03:06 |
darkxst | robert_ancell, but the liblightdm gi library is not installed by default? | 03:11 |
robert_ancell | darkxst, it's in gir1.2-lightdm-1 | 03:12 |
darkxst | yeh I found it, but it wasnt installed | 03:12 |
robert_ancell | unity-greeter uses the library directly, so by default it's not installed | 03:12 |
darkxst | so I can't really use it, unless we add deps somewhere | 03:12 |
robert_ancell | darkxst, use it in gnome-shell? | 03:13 |
darkxst | yeh | 03:13 |
robert_ancell | yeah, you can just add a dependency on it | 03:13 |
darkxst | ok | 03:13 |
robert_ancell | you can depend on it and it wont bring in the daemon | 03:13 |
darkxst | ok cool | 03:14 |
darkxst | robert_ancell, although I really dont want to patch to much javascript, since things are just going to break when people install related extensions | 03:23 |
darkxst | perhaps it would be safer to patch libgdm? | 03:23 |
darkxst | to divert to liblightgdm when gdm is not available? | 03:23 |
darkxst | and there are a bunch of extensions that mess around with the user menu | 03:24 |
robert_ancell | that's another option | 03:25 |
darkxst | I might look at doing it that way | 03:27 |
darkxst | but there is still this issue, that is probably an unavoidable js patch https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1063110, and will break again with most status menu extensions ;( | 03:28 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1063110 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "ubuntu lock on suspend option breaks when suspending via userMenu" [Undecided,New] | 03:28 |
darkxst | (not related to lightdm of course) but nasty none the less | 03:33 |
jbicha | everaldo: ah, there's one more thing: the isolinux art used when you boot from the live image | 13:29 |
jbicha | I'd like to use Ubuntu's purple symbolic "press a key for accessibility" background but substituting our blue for the purple | 13:30 |
everaldo | jbicha, oh! right | 13:36 |
everaldo | let me take care of it | 13:36 |
everaldo | jbicha, is this the one created by iso-build-script or theres a specific package for it? | 13:37 |
jbicha | everaldo: currently, we're just using the build script for it; it should end up in an actual package but we might not bother for quantal | 13:38 |
everaldo | jbicha, ok, working on it. | 13:48 |
CrusaderAD | Hello. Is Ubuntu Gnome Remix beta available for download? | 14:42 |
everaldo | CrusaderAD, yes, it is | 14:42 |
CrusaderAD | where at? | 14:42 |
everaldo | CrusaderAD, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ReleaseNotes/12.10Beta | 14:42 |
CrusaderAD | thank you much | 14:42 |
everaldo | CrusaderAD, to be more precise: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ReleaseNotes/12.10Beta#Download_Beta | 14:43 |
smartboyhw | CrusaderAD, though I suggest wait for 8 days for final release:D | 14:43 |
CrusaderAD | nice, thanks, I plan on giving it a go | 14:43 |
CrusaderAD | smartboyhw ya I'm considering that :) | 14:44 |
everaldo | hehe, I am use it every day... to be honest I don't see any major bug | 14:44 |
smartboyhw | All minor ones really:D | 14:44 |
everaldo | smartboyhw, well, we need to fix bugs so, we need to use it | 14:45 |
CrusaderAD | in your opinions, if you have a 64bit capable machine, would you always use 64bit versions? | 14:46 |
everaldo | better to have more people testing | 14:46 |
everaldo | CrusaderAD, I am use 64bit for past 2 years | 14:46 |
smartboyhw | everaldo, ya sure you are a good dev! | 14:46 |
everaldo | theres only two things that I don't lie | 14:46 |
everaldo | like | 14:46 |
CrusaderAD | everaldo oh ya? what's that? | 14:46 |
everaldo | when use skype lots of 32 bit libraries got installed | 14:46 |
everaldo | and the same for android sdk, it is 32bit only | 14:47 |
CrusaderAD | hm, do you prefer the performance of 64bit over 32bit? | 14:47 |
everaldo | it is not a real problem but I don't like to have this 32bit libraries installed just because skype and android sdk don't release a 64 bit | 14:47 |
everaldo | but I still prefer 64 | 14:47 |
CrusaderAD | I see | 14:48 |
* smartboyhw prefers 64-bit libs too | 14:48 | |
everaldo | CrusaderAD, I can't measure performance since I don't use 32 anumore | 14:48 |
everaldo | anymore | 14:48 |
CrusaderAD | I recently bought an Acer Aspire S3 (it's the one pictured on ubuntu's homepage) and I do notice a few things wrong with it on the 64bit version, I can't edge scroll on the touchpad and the wireless takes about 2 minutes to connect after I login... not sure if it's 64bit related or not, might have to try out the 32bit version | 14:49 |
everaldo | CrusaderAD, I would like to hear about your experiences with this computer, maybe a blog post about it? | 14:50 |
everaldo | also, if you install a 32 bit and compare problens | 14:50 |
everaldo | it will be amazing! | 14:50 |
CrusaderAD | everaldo I just may have to do that :) | 14:50 |
everaldo | I am sure that lots of people will interest on hear about this | 14:50 |
CrusaderAD | there aren't a whole lot of comparisons out there | 14:50 |
everaldo | CrusaderAD, btw, do you know this links: | 14:51 |
everaldo | http://www.linlap.com/wiki/acer+aspire+s3 | 14:51 |
everaldo | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireS3 | 14:51 |
everaldo | ? | 14:51 |
CrusaderAD | everaldo oh snap! no I didn't, thanks! | 14:52 |
everaldo | smartboyhw, btw, we need to have a multitouch on GNOME3, will be nice to use gesture to open a overview like in OSX | 14:52 |
smartboyhw | everaldo, wow | 14:52 |
everaldo | CrusaderAD, I brougth a computer 5 months ago | 14:54 |
everaldo | at that time I was between aspire s3, mac air and one vaio | 14:55 |
everaldo | brougth a air but I still want have a S3 | 14:55 |
CrusaderAD | everaldo they're nice, light and solid... I really have no complaints | 14:56 |
CrusaderAD | I was on the fence about the air too, do you like it? did you drop ubuntu on it? | 14:57 |
everaldo | CrusaderAD, well, the mid 2011 model is perfect for linux, really, never see a hardware so compatible with linux and ubuntu | 14:59 |
everaldo | CrusaderAD, but I don't know if is the same with mid 2012 model | 14:59 |
everaldo | I had a macbook pro and it work ok | 14:59 |
everaldo | so some friends also brought one but a more recent model | 15:00 |
everaldo | and for then wireless was a hell | 15:00 |
everaldo | CrusaderAD, on my air I run ubuntu 99% of time | 15:00 |
everaldo | just remember last time I use OSX | 15:01 |
* everaldo just remember that found a better way to boot ubuntu on mac and need to doc it | 15:01 | |
smartboyhw | everaldo, good:D | 15:01 |
everaldo | smartboyhw, I just create a fat32 very small partition and: | 15:02 |
everaldo | http://pastebin.com/iWtwsarm | 15:03 |
everaldo | and it just using efi | 15:03 |
smartboyhw | WOW | 15:03 |
everaldo | without use refit or any other thing | 15:04 |
everaldo | and also if you press "alt" when starting machine the mac firmware recognize partition and show it | 15:04 |
CrusaderAD | everaldo cool, air doesn't have retina, I saw Ubuntu on a retina and everything was so small cause the resolution was so high... pretty neat | 15:06 |
everaldo | CrusaderAD, you can change font dpi and it get bigger | 15:08 |
everaldo | using gnome-tweak-tool | 15:09 |
CrusaderAD | cool | 15:10 |
CrusaderAD | nice chatting with you guys, ttyl | 15:19 |
everaldo | jbicha, just search for the icons used on ubuntu syslinux, not easy available and it is not gnome's symbolic icon | 15:22 |
jbicha | everaldo: apt-get source syslinux-themes-ubuntu | 15:30 |
jbicha | I see access.pcx and blank.pcx | 15:32 |
everaldo | jbicha, yes, I have it but it is purple, we need the symbols transparent or in svg | 15:57 |
everaldo | anyway, I will try colorize in gimp | 15:57 |
everaldo | sometimes it works | 15:58 |
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jbicha | everaldo: maybe try looking at the commit log and figure out who created the images to begin with | 16:03 |
everaldo | good idea | 16:03 |
jbicha | since it's GPL3, it probably should have the original source included but often times that principle is ignored for image files | 16:04 |
everaldo | jbicha, the fast solution was to change the color backgorund just a little bit | 16:26 |
everaldo | you can event see the differences | 16:26 |
everaldo | change to a color that I can obtain using gimp colorizer | 16:26 |
everaldo | just changed from 4169a4 to 4069a7 | 16:28 |
everaldo | jbicha, our text background in grub is #133773 but the current syslinux color is 4169a4 | 16:30 |
everaldo | what the right color? | 16:30 |
jbicha | um, the right color is as close as we can get to what grub will be using | 16:31 |
everaldo | ah, ok, I will change syslinux color | 16:31 |
everaldo | jbicha, done. https://code.launchpad.net/~ecanuto/+junk/iso-build-script | 17:01 |
everaldo | jbicha, but I can't propose merge so you must give me access or commit your self | 17:01 |
everaldo | (last 3 revisions in my branch) | 17:02 |
* everaldo needs to restart | 17:07 | |
everaldo | just finished to generate my daily iso | 18:20 |
everaldo | everything ok | 18:20 |
darkxst | robert_ancell, what happened to this upload? I cant find it and doesnt appear to have been released? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/1057841 | 19:49 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1057841 in gdm (Ubuntu) "After logging into unity or gnome classic, I can't switch users. Goes to lock screen. Using GDM" [High,Triaged] | 19:49 |
robert_ancell | darkxst, an archive admin rejected it but I don't know why (the rejection system doesn't indicate why) | 19:49 |
robert_ancell | darkxst, oh, the reasoning is in bug 1055359 | 19:53 |
ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1055359 in gdm (Ubuntu Quantal) "GDM package fails to uninstall if GDM not running" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1055359 | 19:53 |
darkxst | robert_ancell, oh right, would have been nice to have the user switchnig fix in quantal, but I guess its too late now | 19:58 |
robert_ancell | darkxst, yeah, will have to SRU it | 19:58 |
jbicha | it could still get in before final release | 20:02 |
ricotz | http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell/commit/?id=0e01a81219e16969011860be134bccd111930368 | 20:13 |
darkxst | jbicha, ok, and I suppose this will need to be a SRU as well? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1063110 | 20:26 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1063110 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "ubuntu lock on suspend option breaks when suspending via userMenu" [Undecided,New] | 20:26 |
darkxst | jbicha, who did you speak with about potential lightDM support in gnome-shell? clearly gcampax is not really keen on the idea! | 21:53 |
jbicha | yeah, he wasn't in Boston | 21:58 |
jbicha | Ray Strode & Jasper St. Pierre seemed interested in working with lightdm, especially if lightdm could use gnome-shell as a greeter/lock screen | 21:59 |
darkxst | and he is responsible for most of the gdm only code! | 22:00 |
jbicha | they said that they hacked a way for the lock screen greeter to not need vt switching which was a big problem when unity-greeter tried handling the lock screen several months ago | 22:01 |
jbicha | ironically, gdm has become a bit more similar to lightdm, especially if they drop the fallback mode like they want to | 22:02 |
jbicha | but lightdm's big advantage is that it is cross-desktop; a distro could ship lightdm as the foundation for all of the flavors they support | 22:03 |
darkxst | yes that would seem logical! as nice as the gdm/gnome-shell integration is, it does present problems | 22:20 |
darkxst | jbicha, something I have been thinking about for 13.04 is to have some sort of 'migration mode'. It would be a carefully selected set of shell extensions, that would ease the mental transition to gnome-shell. Then users can turn them off one-by-one as they get used to the new interface | 23:10 |
darkxst | for example many new shell users complain about lack of traditional application menu, or bottom panel. | 23:13 |
darkxst | But give them a few weeks and they will probably realise they don't even use these anymore! | 23:14 |
jbicha | darkxst: in Boston we discussed getting rid of fallback mode | 23:14 |
darkxst | jbicha, not talking about fallback mode | 23:14 |
darkxst | in the shell proper | 23:15 |
jbicha | gonyere suggested that we officially support a set of extensions that bring back some of the gnome2 feel | 23:15 |
jbicha | like the applications and places menu extensions | 23:15 |
jbicha | there will be more discussion, but I think that compromise position could stick | 23:16 |
jbicha | GNOME doesn't really like the idea of distro's packaging extensions | 23:16 |
jbicha | but Jasper was talking about adding a "download rpm" button to extensions.gnome.org; adding a "download deb" button shouldn't be too difficult | 23:17 |
darkxst | yeh I know, Jasper was hinting at package kit support for extensions at one stage though | 23:17 |
jbicha | that way there is an answer for sysadmins | 23:17 |
jbicha | and extensions should auto-update some day... | 23:18 |
darkxst | yeh that didnt make it for 3.6 | 23:18 |
jbicha | he remembered that you had written some extensions (since he's one of the main reviewers on the site) | 23:19 |
darkxst | not so much anymore, he has a couple of review slaves now ;) | 23:19 |
darkxst | though he has also reviewed some of my bug fixes also | 23:21 |
darkxst | jbicha, are you planning to have ubuntu-gnome session at UDS? | 23:31 |
darkxst | jbicha, are you planning to have ubuntu-gnome session at UDS? | 23:59 |
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