[06:35] <dholbach> good morning
[12:06] <dholbach> bdrung, do you think we could get another ubuntu-packaging-guide uploaded?
[12:08] <bdrung> dholbach: yes
[12:08] <dholbach> awesome
[12:08] <dholbach> I just added an article which I feel could be interesting
[12:09] <dholbach> once we have it uploaded, I can take care of a backport to precise
[12:16] <dholbach> thanks a lot bdrung
[12:19] <bdrung> dholbach: before uploading: in 2.3.2 there is an missing closing bracket
[12:20] <bdrung> dholbach: the structure of the following sentence is a bit weird: "While this test is very small and basic, it tests quite a number of core components on a system, so is very important to have as it might uncover a big number of problems."
[12:21] <dholbach> bdrung, hum, what is 2.3.2?
[12:21] <bdrung> dholbach: "The actual tests"
[12:21] <dholbach> aha
[12:21] <dholbach> let me see
[12:23] <dholbach> bdrung, thanks a lot - fixed
[12:23] <dholbach> bdrung, hang on, just got another suggeston from jibel
[12:24] <dholbach> done
[12:24] <bdrung> dholbach: btw, do you want to become a maintainer of that package in Debian?
[12:25] <dholbach> hm, I have never really dealt with uploading packages to Debian
[12:26] <bdrung> dholbach: being maintainer != doing an upload
[12:26] <dholbach> still, I'm not sure I should be doing it
[12:26] <bdrung> dholbach: you are listed in Uploaders and in the changelog stanza, but you still need a sponsor to do the actual upload
[12:27] <bdrung> being a maintainer is more about having the responsibility
[12:28] <dholbach> I'm really happy to take care of it in Ubuntu - but I'm not sure I want to be maintainer of it in Debian - I deal with almost everything else around the packaging guide already and I don't even have a Debian system to try things on
[12:29] <bdrung> dholbach: i doubt that this package could have debian only bugs
[12:29] <bdrung> dholbach: the grammar seems wrong in the new sentence "Also will [...]"
[12:30] <dholbach> hum
[12:30] <bdrung> where's the subject?
[12:30] <dholbach> I'm not sure
[12:31] <dholbach> "packages in Debian" is the subject of the sentence
[12:32] <bdrung> Also packages in Debian with a testsuite header will be automatically added when they are synced to Ubuntu.
[12:32] <bdrung> sound more English to me
[12:32] <dholbach> ^ native speakers :)
[12:32] <cjwatson> Better but not quite
[12:32] <cjwatson> Packages in Debian with a testsuite header will also be automatically added when they are synced to Ubuntu.
[12:33] <cjwatson> Seems better to me
[12:33] <dholbach> great, thank you
[12:33] <cjwatson> (You could alternatively say "Also, ...", but that reads a bit clumsily to me.)
[12:33] <cjwatson> Puts the stress in a slightly different place I suppose.
[12:34] <dholbach> updated :)
[12:36] <bdrung> dholbach: thanks. i am doing the upload now.
[12:37] <dholbach> excellent
[12:47] <spartan-11510> Hi
[12:48] <spartan-11510> i've a litlle question on packaging. When you have a java software, do you create a shell for launh the software, because you must write "java -jar archive.jar"
[13:18] <cjwatson> I answered spartan-11510 on #ubuntu-devel.  (It's best not to crosspost questions, generally.)
[13:18] <cjwatson> (Or at least say that you've done so.)
[13:19] <spartan-11510> Okay i'll remember for the next time :) and thank's a lot for your answer
[16:15] <MohamedAlaa98_> hello :)
[16:15] <MohamedAlaa98_> I've a source package (im-switch) and I want to create a patch for it
[16:16] <MohamedAlaa98_> but the problem is it doesn't have a patch system
[16:16] <MohamedAlaa98_> when I run the command edit-patch my-patch
[16:17] <MohamedAlaa98_> I get this output No patchsystem detected, cannot create new patch (no dpatch/quilt/cdbs?)
[16:17] <cjwatson> It's a native package; it doesn't and shouldn't have a patch system.  Just edit the source code directly.
[16:17] <MohamedAlaa98_> you mean using the bzr branching/
[16:17] <MohamedAlaa98_> ?
[16:18] <MohamedAlaa98_> I've already made a branch with the fix I want
[16:18] <MohamedAlaa98_> https://code.launchpad.net/~m-alaa8/ubuntu/quantal/im-switch/fix-for-621204
[16:19] <micahg> MohamedAlaa98_: I think that needs a UIFe (I thought I commented on that)
[16:20]  * micahg guesses he thought about commenting on that
[16:20] <cjwatson> I don't care whether it involves bzr or not.  My point is that you just edit the files directly rather than creating a patch file.
[16:21] <MohamedAlaa98> sorry for lag
[16:21] <MohamedAlaa98> did I miss something?
[16:21] <cjwatson> 17:20 <cjwatson> I don't care whether it involves bzr or not.  My point is that you just edit the files directly rather than creating a patch file.
[16:22] <micahg> [11:19] <micahg> MohamedAlaa98_: I think that needs a UIFe (I thought I commented on that)
[16:22] <micahg> [11:19] * micahg guesses he thought about commenting on that
[16:22] <MohamedAlaa98> https://code.launchpad.net/~m-alaa8/ubuntu/quantal/im-switch/fix-for-621204
[16:25] <mitya57> MohamedAlaa98: you forgot a hash mark before the bug number (LP: 621204)
[16:30] <mitya57> MohamedAlaa98: and please also submit the change to Debian ;)
[16:30] <mitya57> there is a submittodebian tool in ubuntu-dev-tools
[16:31] <Laney> tumbleweed: micahg: bdrung: Who's organising the UDS KSP then? ;-)
[16:31] <MohamedAlaa98> sorry the irc client disconnects, what did I miss?
[16:32] <MohamedAlaa98> mitya57: how?
[16:33] <tumbleweed> Laney: good thinking
[16:33] <mitya57> MohamedAlaa98: simply run submittodebian
[16:33] <mitya57> MohamedAlaa98: http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/fixing-a-bug-example.html#getting-the-fix-included
[16:33] <MohamedAlaa98> ok
[17:59] <jtaylor> tinymux ftbs confuses me
[18:00] <jtaylor> it declares an own stpcpy which apparently conflicts with the one in string.h
[18:00] <jtaylor> but the one in string.h should not be enabled by default
[18:01] <jtaylor> its not enabled on the command line or config.h
[18:02] <jtaylor> hm found it some autoconf.h defines gnu source
[18:03] <jtaylor> wait GNU_SOURCE should also not enable it ...
[18:33] <jtaylor> how to fill out the bug template for an sru fixing two bugs?
[18:33] <jtaylor> fill out the template in both bugs or just one?
[18:39] <micahg> jtaylor: template in both debdiff on one