[00:38] <kanliot> sup ibos
[06:47] <cristian_c> Hi
[06:47] <cristian_c> I was told to subscribe to the lubuntu developers mailing list
[06:48] <cristian_c> but I don't find it
[06:48] <cristian_c> Does anyone know it?
[06:48] <wxl> it's basically lubuntu-qa, chalcedony
[06:48] <wxl> oops
[06:48] <wxl> cristian_c:
[06:48] <cristian_c> ok, I look immediately
[06:48] <wxl> it's on launchpad
[06:48] <cristian_c> wxl, thanks for the answer :)
[06:48] <wxl> np
[06:49] <wxl> you joining the dev group?
[06:50] <cristian_c> No, I've posted this: https://answers.launchpad.net/lubuntu-default-settings/+question/206269
[06:51] <cristian_c> lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net
[06:51] <cristian_c> Policy: You must be a team member to subscribe to the team mailing list.
[06:51] <wxl> oh right
[06:52] <wxl> so try becoming a member
[06:52] <cristian_c> https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa/+join
[06:53] <cristian_c> Since this is a moderated team, one of its administrators will have to approve your membership before you actually become a member.
[06:53] <cristian_c> :)
[06:53] <wxl> exactly
[06:53] <wxl> now you get to exercise patience
[06:53] <cristian_c> Your request to join Lubuntu-QA is awaiting approval. , Your mailing list subscription is awaiting approval.
[06:53] <cristian_c> wxl, ok, thanks for the info :)
[12:13] <bioterror> Fira, fix your connection
[12:16] <Fira> yeah...
[12:16] <Fira> it's silly ZNC join flooding on startup
[12:17] <Fira> this is silly, i can't even update it to last git which supposedly fixes this, because nearly all ports are blocked outgoing on the node
[12:17] <Fira> :(
[12:18] <bioterror> move to screen + weechat
[12:18] <bioterror> or tmux + weechat ;)
[12:41] <igor__> Testing
[12:51] <phi-scribe> 123
[13:45] <akls> gs ate 100 mb of memory. Why? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/71236259/2012-10-11-164504_548x53_scrot.png
[13:46] <bioterror> and gs is?
[13:49] <akls> ghostscript
[13:50] <akls> how can I fix it besides just killing it?
[13:51] <bioterror> probably something has use for it
[13:51] <bioterror> kill it! ;D
[13:52] <akls> now if I reboot...
[13:54] <akls> it's there again : <
[13:56] <akls> removed my printer from "Printing" and now it's fixed
[13:56] <akls> alright, thanks, bye :D
[13:56] <bioterror> :D
[13:56] <bioterror> next time you can use lsof
[13:56] <bioterror> for example
[16:00] <toscho> hi
[16:00] <toscho> my autostart still doesn't work properly
[16:01] <toscho> i have added "&" to the end of the lines in ~/.config/lxsession/lubuntu/autostart, but the lines aren't processed properly
[16:40] <hubert_> hey, guys, what kind of login screen does lubuntu use?
[16:40] <zleap> not sure as I did a install lubuntu desktop so i still ahve the one that came with ubuntu
[16:41] <zleap> however i think it uses the same colour scheme,  as lubuntu as in blue
[16:42] <hubert_> okay, i've made wrong question.. I am in tty now, i have installed ubuntu mini (no x), i installed lubuntu-desktop, but now i need to run it, but idk how, what command shall i use.
[16:52] <pmatulis> hubert_: reboot
[16:52] <pmatulis> hubert_: or try 'sudo lightdm'
[17:02] <viniciusarq> anybody there?
[17:02] <wxl> viniciusarq: nope, we're hiding.
[17:02] <pmatulis> there are 72 people in this channel
[17:02] <viniciusarq> lol
[17:02] <viniciusarq> just have some fun
[17:02] <wxl> …
[17:03] <viniciusarq> i'm having some trouble with torrent in my lubuntu
[17:03] <viniciusarq> could u help me?
[17:03] <wxl> no one knows if they can help you if they don't know the problem, viniciusarq
[17:04] <wxl> no need for pleasantries; just get to the point and we'll see what we can do
[17:04] <viniciusarq> sure.. sorry.. i'm having some instability in any torrent client tried
[17:04] <viniciusarq> at my other pc with win7 it's everything ok
[17:04] <wxl> you'll need to be more specific
[17:05] <viniciusarq> i've opened my router's doors 6881-6889
[17:05] <viniciusarq> "transmission" tells me that the door is open, but i'm getting only 70-80kbps
[17:05] <viniciusarq> 70-80kb/s sorry
[17:06] <viniciusarq> from my 1200-1300 kb/s normally
[17:07] <wxl> you use μtorrent on the win7 machine?
[17:07] <viniciusarq> yes
[17:08] <wxl> well that's no fun
[17:08] <wxl> can't use either on the other machine
[17:08] <wxl> but you have tried other clients on the linux box/
[17:09] <viniciusarq> yeah
[17:09] <viniciusarq> deluge / transmission
[17:09] <wxl> are you comparing the exact same torrent?
[17:09] <viniciusarq> yeah
[17:10] <viniciusarq> full speed in utorrent in linux 80kb/s
[17:10] <wxl> did you check encryption, max connections, speed limits?
[17:10] <viniciusarq> encrytion and speed limits yeah let me see max connections
[17:13] <viniciusarq> not working yet
[17:13] <viniciusarq> do i need to open something in firewall?
[17:13] <viniciusarq> i mean firewall in lubuntu
[17:13] <wxl> if it's open it's open
[17:14] <wxl> you can double check here http://canyouseeme.org/
[17:14] <wxl> you should also see https://trac.transmissionbt.com/wiki/SlowSpeeds
[17:14] <kanliot> transmission has problems with upnp routers, usually you want to setup up port forwarding manuallly
[17:15] <viniciusarq> door 6881 open by canuseeme
[17:15] <wxl> like i said, if it's open it's open
[17:16] <viniciusarq> that's really strange
[17:16] <wxl> so are clowns.
[17:18] <wxl> you should head over to #transmission and see what those nice chaps say. i'd love to hear the results, viniciusarq
[17:18] <wxl> OOoOooOoOoooo i didn't realize there was a curses interface https://github.com/fagga/transmission-remote-cli
[17:19] <redderhs> I'm getting the same speeds via transmission / deluge / utorrent.
[17:19] <wxl> redderhs: across different operating systems?
[17:20] <redderhs> yup
[17:20] <wxl> that appears to be the issue here
[17:20] <redderhs> He could also try running utorrent via wine
[17:20] <viniciusarq> actually it seems that when i opened the doors my speed slow down a lot...
[17:20] <redderhs> see if that makes any difference.
[17:21] <redderhs> he/she
[17:21] <wxl> oh
[17:21] <wxl> i thought of something
[17:21] <wxl> your isp may be throttling those ports
[17:21] <wxl> if your router supports upnp (despite what kanliot said) give that a shot. if no luck still, try some totally off the wall port number.
[17:22] <redderhs> yeah its not too good to use the torrent standardized ports from what i've read
[17:22] <redderhs> best to use your own port number off the top of your head.
[17:22] <wxl> that's been my experience in general
[17:22] <wxl> personally i've had good luck with upnp on transmission on os x but haven't used it in linux
[17:23] <redderhs> deluge runs good on lubuntu for me. transmission is also a good client but lacks some functionality uTorrent users may have come to expect
[17:23] <redderhs> i keep both installed.
[17:24] <wxl> ooh cool zenith is still floating about
[17:24] <wxl> have you guys seen that movie?
[17:24] <wxl> soo good
[17:24] <wxl> http://www.legittorrents.info/index.php?page=torrent-details&id=5aa6a160a7470b00e4b3d0ee824333fb7c934ca7
[17:25] <wxl> http://www.publicdomaintorrents.info/nshowcat.html?category=horror
[17:26] <redderhs> the movies public domain?
[17:26] <wxl> yeah
[17:26] <redderhs> interesting
[17:26] <wxl> a boy and is dog is public domain now wow
[17:26]  * wxl moves to #lubuntu-offtopic
[17:27] <viniciusarq> i'll try utorrent for linux
[17:28] <viniciusarq> tried to turn upnp off in transmission lets see
[19:34] <viniciusarq> hey
[19:35] <viniciusarq> has anyone experienced internet slowdown with downloads in torrent?
[20:02] <wxl> we have people on here who have had the exact opposite problem as you have, which suggests you have a problem with yuor connection or how your using transmission or something else viniciusarq
[20:03] <wxl> another way of putting it: this is not a lubuntu problem, per se. you may get better help from people who you can guarantee use transmission on a daily basis
[20:03] <wxl> for that you should join #transmission
[20:03] <wxl> there are 106 people there to help you out
[20:03] <wxl> ok?
[20:04] <zleap> transmission is a file sharing programme right ?
[20:04] <wxl> it's a p2p client, specifically in that it handles torrents
[20:04] <zleap> ok
[20:13] <viniciusarq> i was going to ask if u suggest me to try changing network-manager to wicd
[20:15] <wxl> i'd call that a definitive no, viniciusarq
[20:15] <wxl> i wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy
[20:15] <wxl> i don't care what people say, wicd sucks
[20:15] <viniciusarq> wxl, that's why i came here! tks anyway
[20:15] <wxl> viniciusarq: if you want help setting it up, i can tell you how
[20:15] <wxl> but i don't think it will solve your problem
[20:16] <wxl> and in my experience it might create some new ones
[20:18] <vinicius_arq> wxl, sorry
[20:18] <vinicius_arq> wxl, torrent you mean?
[20:20] <wxl> vinicius_arq: i don't understand your question. you asked abotu problems with torrent. i suggested #transmission. then you were wondering if wicd might help. i said no. you said that's why you came. i said i'd be happy to help you with it, but i think it will create more problems than it will solve. this is not specific to torrents, but in general.
[20:26] <vinicius_arq> wxl, i'm almost getting crazy about that i'm sorry... the most strange thing is that now i'm connected by eth and it is normal and stable, download and connection by itself
[20:27] <wxl> you're saying your problem disappeared vinicius_arq ?
[20:27] <vinicius_arq> wxl, i'm starting to think about my router configuration...
[20:27] <vinicius_arq> wxl, connected by cable yes
[20:27] <vinicius_arq> wifi continues the same problem
[20:27] <wxl> vinicius_arq: wifi is much more inconsistent than ethernet
[20:28] <redderhs> interference + distance can also come into play.
[20:28] <vinicius_arq> wxl, i know but if i run win7 in the same pc at the same place and distance from the router it gets full speed, and do not gets instable...
[20:29] <wxl> still i'm not surprised
[20:30] <vinicius_arq> i think i'll have to accept that lol
[20:31] <redderhs> While i'm not an expert at such a resolution towards the issue, i would say it could help if you find out your specific chipset you're using for wlan and to search that on google like "chipset ubuntu" with other keywords
[20:31] <redderhs> to maybe find someone whom has the same issue you do.. that may give you a lead on some possible options
[20:32] <vinicius_arq> redderhs, i'm going to do that.. tks for all
[20:33] <redderhs> Good luck
[20:33] <vinicius_arq> tks
[22:52] <Osmodivs> Hello. So I was backimg up my stuff to another HDD, y selected all my files and cut them, and then paste them to the other HDD, it only paste it half of the files before running out of space, NOW, I don't have the rest of the files in my original HDD, it is as they just disapeared. How do I recover my files?
[23:02] <redderhs> Osmodivs: Hi, I too recently had a similar issue; where my file names were too long when I cut and pasted them. Since the filenames were too long they were not moved and i lost some. I brought this up in the offtopic chat and a fellow user stated but dont quote him/her, that it could be a bug.
[23:02] <redderhs> Please wait till someone else can give you further details on the true answer to your question.
[23:04] <redderhs> For the record, I was using 12.04 x64
[23:05] <redderhs> Also, if it helps at all, I have been successful as a work around, using copy + paste.
[23:15] <redderhs> Although I have not tried this in conjunction with the issue aforementioned; I have had success in the past recovering files with Windows software on Windows 7 using recuva. The idea just popped in my mind now that possibly one of these alternative software(s) may assist you in a resolution. http://alternativeto.net/software/recuva/
[23:16] <Osmodivs> redderhs: Well, I guess i could use PhotoRec in Lubuntu...
[23:16] <redderhs> To me, from the descriptions i've read, that sounds like a good choice
[23:16] <Osmodivs> redderhs: But the point is, this is one HELLAVA' bug, I tell you what.
[23:16] <redderhs> oh yes, i agree.
[23:17] <redderhs> imo, it shouldn't exist either, should be top on the list to get fixed asap for the author to have his/her software taken seriously.
[23:18] <wxl> i'm getting in here at the end of the convo but ya'll are making bug reports and not just complaining, right? XD
[23:19] <redderhs> I'm gonna check now to see if said issue is listed as a bug report. wxl: to the pcmanfm dudes webpages or would you recommend posting in both lubuntu and pcmans pages?
[23:20] <wxl> redderhs: i think it is. there is at least something similar. i haven't watched it carefully. i would first put a bug on sourceforge and then link the trcaker there to a bug on launchpad
[23:20] <wxl> if your'e not sure there's another bug, jhust make a new one and it'll get duped when it's triaged
[23:20] <redderhs> aye captain.
[23:20] <wxl> danke
[23:23] <Osmodivs> Uh... How do I report this?
[23:24] <wxl> Osmodivs: sounds like redderhs is already on it so it will simply be a matter of confirming it when he's got it up
[23:24] <wxl> if not
[23:24] <wxl> !bug
[23:25] <holstein> Osmodivs: i always just do copy for that reason.. or use grsync .. its arguably a bug though
[23:25] <holstein> i do copy and delete the others after i see that they have gone
[23:26] <Osmodivs> There is not even a Ctrl-Z option for this mistake
[23:27] <Osmodivs> Now all I am getting from PhotoRec is pictures from my browser's cache..
[23:27] <Osmodivs> oh my...
[23:28] <holstein> grsync is an rsync gui that allows you to "try" it before you do it... im assuming it might catch those errors like that
[23:29] <Unit193> rsync has -n, --dry-run               perform a trial run with no changes made
[23:30] <holstein> Unit193: it'll give that "out of space" warning, correct?
[23:32] <holstein> Osmodivs:  i would say, bug or not, if thats the only copy of the data you have, and its mission critical, i wouldnt trust that to a copy/paste or a click and drag scenario
[23:32] <wxl> i agree and disagree holstein
[23:32] <Osmodivs> holstein: Well, too late for the advice :(
[23:32] <wxl> i think it's unsafe to assume that most people will go for the "safest" scenario but instead will do what's easiest
[23:33] <Osmodivs> I had 30GB+ of info there
[23:33] <Osmodivs> and now it is gone
[23:33] <Unit193> Tried testdisk?
[23:34] <Osmodivs> Yeah, Photorec is onlly recovering files from my Browser's cahe
[23:34] <Osmodivs> If there was only an option to search for folders
[23:34] <holstein> i dont have the skill to fix the "issue" though wxl, so i can only suggest doing arguably proper methods on the user side
[23:35] <holstein> wxl: if you think we should fix the copy/paste or ask for it to be fixed to "crash" more elegantly, or check the space before copying... i can aggree with that
[23:36] <Unit193> holstein: Yeah, pcmanfm has no error checking.  File name incorrect for NTFS?  I'll tell you after "moving" it.
[23:36] <holstein> i remember queing up something to copy to a USB stick last week and i noticed it wasnt going to fit... i wasnt given a warning.. but i lost data like that in windows XP once, and stopped doing "move"
[23:37] <wxl> holstein: let's put it to you this way. i use rm. i don't delete. i don't send stuff to trash. i certainly prefer lower-level because i know i can trust it more. i just don't think we can expect that from the average user. and when something messes up, telling them to do something different when it's too late is like adding insult to injury :)
[23:37] <wxl> holstein: so realy you and i agree with one another. i'm just feeling bad for poor Osmodivs :)
[23:38] <holstein> yup.. likewise
[23:38] <holstein> when the exact thing happened to me, i decided not to do move anymore
[23:38] <holstein> i forget if i got the data back...
[23:38] <wxl> i move a lot (in terminal). i just make sure i know what i'm doing before i hit enter
[23:38] <Osmodivs> Well, they should warn us noobs about that, I would not expect such a bad bug in such a OS
[23:40] <wxl> Osmodivs: on the other hand, where would we warn you?
[23:40] <wxl> an intelligent place would be in the release notes
[23:40] <redderhs> submitted report
[23:40] <wxl> but you won't necessarily find that before the problem happens
[23:40] <wxl> redderhs: where?
[23:40] <redderhs> launchapd
[23:41] <wxl> bug number?
[23:41] <redderhs> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcmanfm/+bug/1065760
[23:41] <Osmodivs> ubuntu-bug linux?
[23:41] <Osmodivs> Or what software, manager?
[23:41] <wxl> Osmodivs: just go to that link and confirm it (right under the title)
[23:41] <wxl> you'll need a login if you don't already have one
[23:42] <Osmodivs> Oh, I have one
[23:42] <redderhs> I just created one =P
[23:44] <wxl> Osmodivs: give me the result of "apt-cache policy pcmanfm"
[23:44] <redderhs> the results are in my log, but it's best if you run it yourself to confirm that you had the issue on the same version as I.
[23:45] <wxl> duh sorry
[23:45] <wxl> nevermind
[23:45] <redderhs> oh
[23:45] <redderhs> i thought you were wxl @_@
[23:45] <wxl> ohhhh
[23:45] <redderhs> 0.9.10-0ubuntu2
[23:45] <wxl> HAHAHAH you make me laugh redderhs
[23:45] <redderhs> adsoijfaoisd
[23:45] <redderhs> you know what i mean
[23:45] <wxl> fixed in version 1 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=3565792&group_id=156956&atid=801864
[23:45] <wxl> 1.01 i shoudl say
[23:46] <wxl> which is available in quantal
[23:46] <wxl> SO
[23:46] <wxl> time to upgrade :)
[23:46]  * redderhs upgrades
[23:46] <redderhs> kinda surprise Update Manager didn't do that automatically.
[23:47] <redderhs> unless it's not in repo yet
[23:47] <wxl> it's not
[23:47] <wxl> i think ti's got a week left
[23:47] <redderhs> eh, ill just wait for the repo to add it.
[23:48] <wxl> i'd tell you to add lubuntu-dev or lubuntu-daily repos but afaik 1.01 is quantal-only meaning you'll break crap if you try to install in precise
[23:49] <redderhs> heh, yeah, not doing that =P
[23:55] <pmatulis> can anyone confirm that, on 12.10, if 2 instances of firefox are running, that closing one will also close the other one?