[00:19] <mphill> Anyone having GTK trouble with the update today. I can't launch nautilus and java apps have the mouse offset about 150px.  I get this error in the console when trying to run nautilus: nautilus: symbol lookup error: nautilus: undefined symbol: gtk_menu_button_set_menu
[01:18] <silverarrow> hi
[01:18] <silverarrow> should notification addon for thunderbird and firefox work in Ubuntu?
[01:33] <bjsnider> silverarrow, i just caught all of those messages you left on the gecko-mediaplayer group in august. you're a one-man reclamation project
[01:34] <bjsnider> singlehandedly trying to breathe life into ppc
[03:06] <psusi> is it expected that upgrading to quantal at this point with fglrx installed leads to a broken x?
[03:46] <pepee> psusi, install fglrx-updates
[12:31] <Gamoder_> Hi, I just wanted to re-ask: does anybody else have the bug (Ubuntu 10.10, 64 bit, XFCE as DE) that openoffice crashes whenever you "open" an embedded object and click on the original (non-embedded) document afterwards
 could someone with nvidia binary, someone with nvidia nouveau and/or someone with fglrx try out the nux from  ppa:timo-jyrinki/prerelease in quantal and report back if seeing anything regressing in bringing Dash visible / active blur?
[13:15] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:11] <dr_willis> hmmm. yesterday's updates confused my desktop. reset all my settings to get it working again. noticed an amazon icon in the launcher. is that a new default. or just a webapps quirk i hit.
[14:11] <philinux> dr_willis: it's the new default
[14:12] <philinux> dr_willis: also see this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/10/ubuntu-adds-amazon-results-off-switch-fixes-nsfw-issues?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+d0od+%28OMG!+Ubuntu!%29
[14:13] <dr_willis> so the icon is there by default. that seems  almost too much like hp and dell with their cruftware
[14:14] <dr_willis> id rather have a switch in the dash to toggle it when needed. byt i bet most people will remove the shopping lens.
[14:15] <philinux> dr_willis: there was a huge discussion on the forums. Also see this. http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12257857&postcount=85
[14:16] <dr_willis> discussion or flamefest? i tend to not hit the forums m
[14:16] <philinux> dr_willis: that post 85 is from my sticky and has most relevant info
[14:19] <dr_willis> will be amuseing to see the ranting on release day.
[14:22] <philinux> dr_willis: and the fact that the iso is now 758 meg
[14:23] <philinux> no more fit on cd and the alternate install is gone too
[14:23] <dr_willis> people will rant about the size.. then in the next line say more stuff should be included. ;)
[14:24] <philinux> dr_willis: lol yes indeed
[14:24] <dr_willis> of course im the kind that removes libreoffice to save space ;)
[14:25] <philinux> dr_willis: I'm the kind thats fortunately been able to use live usb stick
[14:52] <Mneumonic> Is the Release Candidate for 12.10 still planned to come out today?
[14:57] <philinux> Mneumonic: yep as far as I know
[14:57] <bazhang> !schedule
[14:58] <bazhang> 10/11 is scheduled to be the release candidate. at what time is unclear
[14:59] <Mneumonic> Great!  I am very anxious to try it out.
[16:00] <omac> bug with the ubuntu donate page located here.  I click the pay button and then doesn't proceed as expected.
[16:00] <omac> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/questions
[16:00] <omac> I plunked in an amount that was a bit different and then I tried a second time with the defaults, but still it didn't proceed.
[16:42] <AaronCampbell> Ever since I switched my display driver to the proprietary AMD one, screenshots using gnome-screenshot are coming back completely black
[16:43] <AaronCampbell> Is this some problem in the driver (I assume there's nothing I can do about this), or possibly a configuration issue?
[16:43] <AaronCampbell> Has anyone else seen this?
[16:49] <nadeem> hi guys want to know how to upgrade the kernel on my usb stick ubuntu 12.10??
[17:00] <bazhang> trism, so the !schedule link is wrong
[17:01] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule
[17:01] <bazhang> 10/11 RC
[17:02] <trism> bazhang: my mistake you are correct
[17:02] <bazhang> and 10/18 Final?
[17:02] <bazhang> ah ok thanks
[18:32] <pepee> after upgrading, grub did not find my windows 7 partition. I had to mount that partition manually and run update-grub2
[18:34] <pepee> I had those entries edited by hand in fstab, and used the old format without UUIDs. something changed that to the UUID format and after that grub didn't find the windows partition
[18:34] <BluesKaj> really , were you using legacy-grub previously ?
[18:37] <pepee> 6+ months ago, yeah
[18:38] <BluesKaj> pepee, fstab works ok , but I haven't bothered with it since upgrading to 12.10 . Dolphin places shows all my partitions and external drive as labelled
[18:39] <pepee> I'm just saying that there is a bug and grub did not detect that partition
[18:39] <BluesKaj> did you run os-prober ?
[18:40] <pepee> I know how to do things, the problem would be when someone who knows even less than me discovers this problem
[18:40] <pepee> no, I didn't, don't even know what it is
[18:41] <BluesKaj> actually this the first I've heard of any bug
[18:41] <jtaylor> I just asked in -devel if its on someones shedule
[18:41] <jtaylor> the bug seems very common
[18:42] <BluesKaj> any bug to to with grub that is
[18:43] <BluesKaj> to do with
[18:49] <pepee> well, for the record, that's my workaround. mount the partition and run update-grub2
[18:49] <jtaylor> thats strange
[18:50] <jtaylor> the workaround in the past was the opposite
[18:50] <jtaylor> umount the partition
[18:56] <trism> bug 1051306 at least (I think this is the one I found when someone else had this issue earlier in the cycle)
[18:57] <BluesKaj> pepee, there's a grub upgrade in the repos as we speak , i lust installed it
[18:57] <jtaylor> thx
[18:59] <jtaylor> I'll mark that critical if theres another report
[19:01] <pepee> ah yeah, I see. the grub update was installed an hour ago. kinda conflicting because I just found this half an hour ago lol
[19:03] <pepee> I mean, I can't say if it was fixed or not. anyway, thanks, I hope I could help
[19:38] <jtaylor> pepee: the issue will be looked at by dev's,  if you can provide some extra information please post it in the bug
[19:43] <pepee> jtaylor, well, the bug report it's what I'm seeing, os-prober fails to find windows unless I mount that partition
[19:46] <pepee> jtaylor, does a trace help somehow?
[19:46] <jtaylor> what kind of trace?
[19:46] <jtaylor> unfortunately I know nothing about grub
[19:46] <pepee> bash -x os-prober
[19:46] <jtaylor> could be useful
[19:48] <bjsnider> grub has gotten a lot simpler: which is another way of saying it's gotten a lot more complicated
[20:01] <dr_willis> is wubi included on the 12.10 disk anymore? i never noticed if it was gone. there was metion of removeing it.
[20:21] <silverarrow> I have trouble with frames and windows sizing
[20:21] <silverarrow> there are loads of error messages on almost any app I launch in terminal
[20:22] <silverarrow> regarding frames and sizing I mean
[20:23] <silverarrow> however, it is mostly mplayer I cannot make behave when playing films, whether they are stored on the harddrive or cd
[20:44] <Darxus> I just tried using unity for the first time in a while (just long enough to get gnome classic reinstalled), trying to figure out how to get into the package manager, typed "packages", and got a screen full of... CDs for sale.  Seriously, WTF is going on here?
[20:44] <bekks> "Software center".
[20:44] <jtaylor> !adlen
[20:44] <jtaylor> !adlens
[20:44] <bekks> Darxus: Or just install synaptic from a terminal.
[20:48] <Darxus> This bullshit is seriously the first time in a very long time that I've considered stopping using ubuntu.  Even if I can switch to a different UI.
[20:48] <bekks> Whats the problem in either using the software center or installing synaptic?
[20:49] <IdleOne> Please keep the language clean
[20:50] <Darxus> The problem is that the primary interface is trying to sell me stuff.
[20:50] <Darxus> By default.
[20:51] <IdleOne> remove unity-lens-shopping
[20:51] <Darxus> 04:50PM < Darxus> By default.
[20:51] <IdleOne> you won't get those suggestions anymore
[20:51] <IdleOne> Darxus: We know.
[20:51] <IdleOne> remove unity-lens-shopping
[20:51] <Darxus> I'm so enraged that I've mentioned to people over the years that this is the distro I use, and as a result they might now think I condone this....
[20:51] <Darxus> IdleOne: Remove it by default.
[20:51] <bekks> Then condone it if you dont like it and dont want to change it.
[20:52] <FernandoMiguel> wait till Darxus finds out that canonical now asks ppl to donate prior to download the isos
[20:52] <IdleOne> Darxus: Email Canonical about it. We can't remove it by default
[20:56] <jtaylor> FernandoMiguel: the request for donation is far less annoying than this lens
[20:56] <jtaylor> especially as we all get our isos from the daily build page ;)
[20:57] <FernandoMiguel> ;)
[20:57] <FernandoMiguel> I might give it some euros
[20:57] <FernandoMiguel> especially for the android/mobile support
[20:58] <bekks> i'd love to see sparc support :)
[20:59] <jtaylor> debian supports sparc
[20:59] <Darxus> Thanks.  I opened a bug.  I'm.... so angry.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-lens-shopping/+bug/1065720
[20:59] <FernandoMiguel> bekks: LMAO
[20:59]  * FernandoMiguel pulls the popcorns and waits for it to be closed as WON'T FIX
[20:59] <fishscene> ...or marked as a duplicate
[20:59] <bekks> FernandoMiguel: I'd really love to see sparc support, no kidding. One OS on every hardware I am using. :)
[21:00] <FernandoMiguel> remember notification bubbles? Update Manager? left side controls ? Font sizes? Mono? Unity?
[21:00] <FernandoMiguel> and after all this release cycles, I'm forced to agree with most of them
[21:01] <FernandoMiguel> changing mind sets is NOT easty
[21:01] <FernandoMiguel> *easy
[21:02] <bekks> Basically it would just require someone starting to compile it. All the tools ae there already.
[21:02] <bekks> gcc supports sparc, kernel supports sparc, etc.
[21:02] <FernandoMiguel> tru
[21:03] <FernandoMiguel> wanna do it ? :)
[21:03] <pepee> use {k,l,x}ubuntu?
[21:03] <bekks> FernandoMiguel: In long cold winter nights, I will start trying :)
[21:38] <Darxus> fishscene: Do you know of any bugs it is likely to be marked as a duplicate of?  It wouldn't surprise me, and I'd like to see them.
[21:54] <Darxus> Found a couple searching for closed bugs against unity-lens-shopping.
[22:11] <maxb> Has something changed in how upgrades to quantal are performed? 'update-manager -c -d' is not offering me an upgrade (from precise)
[22:12] <FernandoMiguel> maxb: why both?
[22:12] <FernandoMiguel> -d is devel
[22:12] <FernandoMiguel> -c is regular upgrades
[22:12] <FernandoMiguel> make sure you are not already in QQ or have weird repos
[22:13] <FernandoMiguel> if everything fails, try the cli version, do-release-upgrade
[22:13] <maxb> I interpreted the help as -c "yes, check for dist upgrades" -d "accept upgrades to unreleased version"
[22:17] <maxb> Oh, I'd ended up in "only upgrade to LTSes" mode, somehow
[22:19] <FernandoMiguel> doh
[22:30] <Daekdroom> That's default for LTS releases, iirc.
[22:39] <IdleOne> Daekdroom: it is, good recollection.
[22:52] <AaronCampbell> Ever since I switched my display driver to the proprietary AMD one, screenshots using gnome-screenshot are coming back completely black
[22:52] <AaronCampbell> Is this some problem in the driver (I assume there's nothing I can do about this), or possibly a configuration issue?