[04:47]  * micahg better upload more stuff, jtaylor is catching up fast
[06:57] <dholbach> good morning
[08:14] <dholbach> I'll start an Ubuntu-On-Air hangout in a bit - anyone wants to co-host?
[08:14]  * xnox sorry, bad hair day.
[08:15] <Rhonda> sorry, at work.
[08:15] <dholbach> no worries
[08:16] <dholbach> I'll do an intro to ubuntu development I thought
[08:30] <xnox> dholbach: in german?
[08:33] <dholbach> xnox, english of course
[08:33] <xnox> dholbach: =(
[08:34] <xnox> you should do one in german & french I think =)
[08:34] <dholbach> haha
[08:34] <dholbach> next time
[08:34] <xnox> dholbach: team up with seb128
[08:35] <Laney> with live translation into lettish by xnox
[08:35]  * xnox *giggles* Ich spreche Lettish nicht so gut.
[17:25] <gotwig> hey there, please take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nodejs/+bug/1065598
[17:25] <gotwig> luck, to get an exception for a fix?
[17:26] <gotwig> in the last cyle, there were also critical nodeJS bugs, so an exception was permitted
[17:26] <micahg> gotwig: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2012/07/msg00002.html
[17:28] <gotwig> micahg: so what
[17:28] <micahg> gotwig: so node as a binary is no longer provided, you need to use nodejs
[17:28] <gotwig> micahg: yes, I see but look at the end of http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=614907
[17:29] <gotwig> > It has been resolved for days now, would please someone
[17:29] <gotwig> > implement the solution? I can, as offered previously, help.
[17:29] <gotwig> If this needs an NMU then that's fine; I'd be happy to sponsor it if
[17:29] <gotwig> necessary.
[17:29] <micahg> hrm?  the "fixed" version is in quantal
[17:30] <gotwig> micahg: eh, no?
[17:30] <gotwig> micahg: in which package
[17:30] <micahg> nodejs
[17:30] <gotwig> micahg: no.
[17:31] <gotwig> micahg: log?
[17:31] <micahg> gotwig: what are you looking for?
[17:31] <micahg> nodejs in quantal implements that decision
[17:32] <jtaylor> gotwig: you need to install nodejs-legacy
[17:34] <gotwig> jtaylor: I also heared that
[17:34] <gotwig> jtaylor: I am going to give it a try, thanks
[17:35] <gotwig> what means "legacy" in this case
[17:35] <jtaylor> that bin/node should not be used
[17:35] <gotwig> but many nodejs apps use it
[17:35] <gotwig> for system wide configurations
[17:35] <jtaylor> yes, but its wrong
[17:36] <gotwig> becouse?
[17:36] <jtaylor> namespace polution
[17:36] <gotwig> ok
[17:36] <jtaylor> bin/node is already taken
[17:36] <jtaylor> and its far to generic
[17:36] <jtaylor> the other node is also forcibly renamed in debian
[17:37] <micahg> if you find a broken app in the archive, please file a bug against it (I think we tried to pull in as many fixes as we saw ready in Debian for this)
[17:37] <gotwig> why is legacy not a dependency, suggestion, what ever of nodejs package?
[17:37] <micahg> gotwig: did you read the link I gave you about the "why" of all this?
[17:37] <jtaylor> hm I guess because debian does not want people using it
[17:37] <gotwig> yes
[17:37] <jtaylor> but it could be added
[17:38] <gotwig> debian is a philosophy
[17:38] <jtaylor> afk a while
[17:38] <micahg> gotwig: see point 2 in that message
[17:39] <gotwig> offtopic: have you seen this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nodejs/+bug/882880
[17:48] <gotwig> after installing legacy, it also fixed other problems
[17:52] <jtaylor> sigsegv due to missing binary?
[17:52] <jtaylor> a sign of quality software
[17:56] <gotwig> g2g
[17:56] <gotwig> thx for support
[22:56] <bobweaver> hello there I am writing a puppet script and am at the point when making gpg  I am using find / -name *  to gain entropy got any clues to gather it faster ?