[04:56] <Kilos> morning all
[04:56] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[04:56]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[05:00] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[05:00] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[05:00] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[05:11] <Kilos> hehe
[05:11] <Kilos> môre inetpro 
[05:58] <inetpro> goeie more Kilos, and everyone else
[05:58] <Kilos> hehe
[05:58] <inetpro> Kilos: jy vroeg vanmore?
[05:58] <Kilos> ja wou sien waar die reen is
[05:58] <inetpro> hmm... 
[05:58] <inetpro> hy kom
[05:59] <Kilos> ek wonder
[06:16] <superfly> morning Kilos, inetpro
[06:16] <Kilos> hiya superfly 
[06:16] <Kilos> morning SmilyBorg_w 
[06:16] <SmilyBorg_w> Hey there
[06:21] <superfly> ohi SmilyBorg
[06:25] <Squirm> morning
[07:17] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[07:27] <charlvn> good morning
[07:27] <charlvn> Maaz: coffee on
[07:27]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[07:27] <charlvn> how's it going
[07:27] <charlvn> hi Kilos, Squirm, superfly, SmilyBorg, inetpro 
[07:30] <aquarat> and SmilyBorg 
[07:30] <Kilos> hi aquarat 
[07:31] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charlvn!
[07:31] <aquarat> hi Kilos 
[07:31] <aquarat> howzit?
[07:31] <Kilos> ok ty and you?
[07:37] <aquarat> is gewd
[07:49] <magespawn> morning all
[07:50] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[07:51] <magespawn> what's up today?
[07:51] <Kilos> lol network stuff again
[07:51] <magespawn> that seems to be your bug bear or your kryptonite
[07:52] <Kilos> can ping one way only with 2 pcs on 12.04 same username and password
[07:52] <Kilos> swop one drive to sisters drive and can ping both ways
[07:52] <Kilos> grrr
[07:52] <Kilos> same settings im sure
[07:52] <magespawn> not the firewall setup?
[07:53] <Kilos> i purged the firewall
[07:53] <Kilos> grr
[07:53] <Kilos> maybe it left something behind
[07:53] <magespawn> that or the computers are not talking because of ip address problems
[07:54] <Kilos> will swop drives again and recheck settings from working one but im sure they same
[07:54] <magespawn> there has to be some difference
[07:54] <Kilos> yeah missing something somewhere
[07:55] <Kilos> will write down so dont have to rely on memory
[08:25] <magespawn> get yourself a rubber duck, helps a lot
[08:48] <Kilos> rubber duck?
[08:49] <Kilos> the settings exactly the same on bot network managers
[08:49] <Kilos> both
[08:52] <Kilos> wbb just wanna steal modem
[09:25] <magespawn> Kilos rubber duck: little yellow plastic toy that you can talk to
[09:25] <Kilos> rofl
[09:26] <Kilos> thats in the bath, what do i do the rest of the time
[09:38] <magespawn> a duck next to computer also helps
[09:39] <Kilos> ha ha ha
[09:39] <Kilos> you a nut at times
[09:40] <magespawn> superfly and come of the other guys suggested it, to help when i am having problems with programming
[09:40] <Kilos> lol
[09:40] <Kilos> they all a buncha nuts at times
[09:41] <magespawn> differant ways of thinking for sure
[09:41] <magespawn> says he who went on an install marathon
[09:42] <Kilos> the fly?
[09:42] <magespawn> no you Kilos, you did all those installs all in a row
[09:43] <Kilos> hahaha ya but now i know the tricks
[09:43] <Kilos> had to thump them into subconscious
[09:43] <Kilos> conscious dont work too good
[09:44] <magespawn> reptition is always a good way to memorize something
[09:44] <Kilos> do install with 3g plugged in then remove it before rebooting
[09:45] <Kilos> if you leave it in nm dont show mobile broadband after the boot
[09:45] <magespawn> now that is strange, wondeer what happens if the modem is built in like with some laptops?
[09:46] <Kilos> something in the last few scripts it runs before closing down
[09:46] <Kilos> ?
[09:47] <Kilos> its very fast but on closing down it says something about modem-manager disconnect
[09:47] <Trixar_za> Hey Kilos - 8ta finally allowed me to switch over to 8ta More :)
[09:48] <Trixar_za> Will see tomorrow if the 'double your airtime for R50 or more' offer still works
[09:48] <Kilos> 8ta more? Trixar_za 
[09:48] <Kilos> wow
[09:48] <Kilos> if you put R50 you get R100 worth?
[09:49] <Kilos> tell me how
[09:49] <Trixar_za> Yeah, it's the new prepaid plan. They give you a certain percentage more Airtime each time you recharge. It's supposed to be double for amounts over R50. Atleast that's what I've heard from the advert on the TV.
[09:50] <Trixar_za> Well, you dial *180# and go to tarrif options and then select 8ta more and send 1 when it asks.
[09:50] <Trixar_za> Didn't used to work, but monday it finally worked for me
[09:51] <Kilos> wow ty will look at that
[09:51] <Kilos> they cutting some throats hey?
[09:53] <Trixar_za> It's probably to attract more users
[09:54] <Trixar_za> Only pain is that you have to switch over manually. It's not part of the default tarrif plan (which is 8ta per second)
[09:55] <Kilos> i wonder if theyll let you use the more bit to get data as well
[09:55] <Kilos> or only allow it as airtime
[09:56] <Trixar_za> Should be for anything
[09:56] <Trixar_za> I'll find out tomorrow when I recharge :P
[10:00] <Kilos> cool ty Trixar_za 
[10:01] <Kilos> they actually quite good. the 2g+1g thats R149, they only deduct R146
[10:02] <Kilos> so if the more works R100 will get the 2g+1g and have R50 over
[10:03] <Kilos> hi queery meeting monday night hey
[10:03] <queery> hi oom Kilos
[10:04] <Trixar_za> That may be two different tarrif plans/specials
[10:04] <Trixar_za> :P
[10:05] <Trixar_za> Not that I've tried the 2g+1g plan
[10:05] <Trixar_za> special*
[10:05] <Kilos> have you got them to activate the sim?
[10:05] <Kilos> for data
[10:06] <Kilos> you dont see the 2g+1g till you do
[10:07] <Kilos> well we can just hope
[10:07] <Trixar_za> Activate it how? It's rica'd and it has the 3G settings enabled.
[10:07] <Trixar_za> I am kind of using a Vodafone 3G modem with it though :P
[10:08] <Kilos> they do it while you are chatting to them
[10:08] <Kilos> dial 180 and wait for an operator
[10:08] <Kilos> go through the motions of course
[10:08] <Kilos> press 1 for this etc
[10:08] <Trixar_za> Ah, of course :P
[10:09] <Kilos> but they answer and get to an agent quicker than the other providers
[10:14] <Trixar_za> Sounds pretty good. When I get it, I'll be downloading like crazy :P
[10:15] <Kilos> hehe
[10:17] <Trixar_za> Mostly supplementing my ScummVM collection. I'm still bummed about losing Full Throttle because of a failing Ubuntu install
[10:17] <Kilos> ai
[10:17] <Kilos> how did you manage that?
[10:18] <Trixar_za> No clue. Just started going. Devices wouldn't work. Couldn't burn CDs and no flash drive would work.
[10:19] <Trixar_za> So it kind of screwed my back up plans
[10:19] <Kilos> oh my
[10:19] <Trixar_za> Didn't have a LiveCD at the time either :P
[10:19] <Kilos> install prepaid-manager-applet
[10:19] <Kilos> you can see airtime and topup from there
[10:20] <Trixar_za> Actually I just use the 8ta website
[10:20] <Trixar_za> It's pretty sweet
[10:20] <Kilos> i dunno how to see data balance without putting sim in fone yet
[10:20] <Trixar_za> You can recharge and see your data there too
[10:20] <Trixar_za> And balances
[10:20] <Kilos> link?
[10:20] <Trixar_za> Let me get it quick :P
[10:21] <Kilos> hope there no moving pics
[10:21] <Kilos> they eat data
[10:23] <Trixar_za> http://onnet.8ta.com/
[10:23] <Trixar_za> I don't think you pay for data used with the 8ta sites
[10:23] <Trixar_za> :P
[10:23] <Trixar_za> Since you can access them with no data and airtime
[10:24] <Trixar_za> Btw, your MSISDN is your cellphone number
[10:24] <Kilos> ah 
[10:24]  * Squirm pokes Trixar_za 
[10:24] <Kilos> ty
[10:26] <Trixar_za> Hey Squirm :P
[10:29] <Squirm> how goes Trixar_za ?
[10:33] <Kilos> that site doesnt show my bundle balance
[10:34] <Kilos> Trixar_za, maybe the number to setup data is 183
[10:35] <Kilos> i forget all these numbers
[10:35] <Kilos> read the pamphlet that came with sim everytime
[11:56] <DigiGram> hi guys 
[11:57] <DigiGram> any capetownians here?
[12:06] <bakuman> a few from Stellenbosch
[12:07] <DigiGram> I'll ask later again. Just a general Q about if anyone knows of a room or something to let on a weekly/monthly basis
[13:00] <magespawn> superfly is in cape town i think
[13:00] <magespawn> there are few others
[13:03] <superfly> DigiGram: I'm in CA but I don't know of any accommodation off hand, you can try gumtree
[13:17] <DigiGram> thanx superfly I'm trying gumtree
[13:17] <DigiGram> had something, then I was to slow to confirm hehe
[13:22] <Kilos> inetpro, hoop jy het reen goed by
[13:22] <Kilos> storm hier
[13:22] <inetpro> Kilos: hmm...
[13:22] <Kilos> reen nog nie maar donner bliksem baie
[13:22] <inetpro> dankie vir die warning
[13:22] <Kilos> yw
[13:23] <inetpro> ai
[13:23] <inetpro> klaar te laat 
[13:23] <Kilos> lyk of dit van die noorde af kom so miskien reen dit al by jou se huis
[13:23] <inetpro> ja lyk so
[13:23] <Kilos> wind waai kwaai so kan miskien verby
[13:23] <inetpro> ok, thanks
[13:30] <inetpro> Kilos: lyk my nie of dit vinnig gaan verby wees nie
[13:31] <Kilos> wind waai baie sterk hier so gee kans
[13:43]  * inetpro loving the rain
[13:43] <Kilos> aw we havent even got 1mm yet
[13:44] <Kilos> not fair
[13:45] <Kilos> lyk of dit baie reen bo op die berg na julle toe
[13:45] <Kilos> sigh
[13:46] <inetpro> reen lekker hier in die stad ook
[13:51] <charlvn> good afternoon\
[13:51] <charlvn> wow, busy today
[13:51] <charlvn> how's it going?
[13:53] <Kilos> ok ty and you charlvn 
[14:26] <Trixar_za> Kilos: Well that's a slight rip-off. Just recharged with R50.
[14:26] <Trixar_za> They give you R50 free airtime, but it's not part of your official balance. So you can't use it for data bundles.
[14:26] <Trixar_za> Further more, it expires after 7 days :/
[14:27] <Trixar_za> Oh well, deals that are too good to be true normally are
[14:27] <Kilos> lol
[14:27] <magespawn> so you can only use it to make calls and expiry so typical of cell companies
[14:28] <magespawn> i am out of here for now later guys
[14:28] <Trixar_za> magespawn: Pretty much. Probably extends to sms and mms too. Not sure if it only starts working after all the account airtime is depleted or if it works instead of account airtime
[14:28] <Trixar_za> Later magespawn
[14:30] <Trixar_za> On the upside, I found a way to recharge my Cell's batteries without needing to buy a cheapo charger (and it works with USB)
[14:47] <Trixar_za> http://project-apollo.net/text/rpg.html
[14:47] <Trixar_za> Never gets old
[14:48] <Kilos> eish Trixar_za  they all skelm
[14:49] <Kilos> i once got a mtn once off R50, they advertised download as much as you like in one day
[14:49] <Kilos> they didnt say its throttled after first 200 meg
[14:50] <Kilos> haha Trixar_za try transfering some of it to another fone
[14:51] <Kilos> metoyou thingie\
[14:51] <Kilos> might break the expiry loop and whether you can get data with it
[14:52] <Kilos> you lucky my nokia 2730 has its own plug , doesnt charge with usb
[14:53] <Trixar_za> Nah, I think that's why they keep it separate from your airtime. So you can't pull that trick :P
[14:54] <charlvn> Kilos: i'm doing well thanks
[14:55] <Kilos> hehe
[14:55] <Kilos> ty for letting me know
[14:55] <charlvn> no you asked me earlier but i didn't respond sorry :)
[14:55] <charlvn> i got busy again
[14:55] <charlvn> crazy few days here\
[14:56] <charlvn> i need to go do groceries too tonight, and buy some other stuff
[14:56] <charlvn> :D
[14:56] <Kilos> np charlvn 
[14:56] <Kilos> better late than never
[14:56] <charlvn> ;)
[14:56] <Kilos> hehe
[14:57] <charlvn> some days i think i need to buy me one of these: http://i.imgur.com/Z3bNE.jpg
[15:59] <Kilos> inetpro, is jy darem tuis?
[15:59] <Kilos> net 5mm reen hier
[16:00] <Kilos> baie dorp se kant toe
[16:01] <Kilos> must rain tomorrow. temps 14°c and 19°c
[17:56] <magespawn> evening all
[17:57] <superfly> hiya magespawn
[17:57] <magespawn> hey superfly
[18:29] <magespawn> superfly a suggestion for your python blog series, forward links to the new articles
[18:30] <superfly> magespawn: ah yes, thanks for reminding me... I did think about that when I blogged the previous one, but I wasn't at a computer at the time
[18:32] <magespawn> mm mobile blogging? how do you do it, app?
[18:32] <smile4ever> bye :)
[18:32] <smile4ever> have a good night all :)
[18:34] <magespawn> do docstrings display when you run the code or are they like comments?
[18:35] <superfly> magespawn: they are comments
[18:36] <magespawn> do not usually use # for comments?
[18:36] <superfly> mobile blogging? sortof... I usually blog on my Kindle while on the train, and then I export to HTML and upload that to the site when I get to a PC
[18:37] <magespawn> ohh i use scribefire on the htc and usually in firefox on the laptop
[18:47] <Kilos> night guys. sleep tight
[18:50] <superfly> scribefire?
[18:55] <magespawn> scribefire is firefox add on
[18:56] <magespawn> on the tablet i use the mobile blogger
[18:56] <magespawn> app
[19:11] <superfly> magespawn: what blog software do you use? wordpress?
[19:11] <superfly> or blogger?
[19:18] <inetpro> Maaz: tell Kilos I got 45mm
[19:18] <Maaz> inetpro: Righto, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[19:18] <inetpro> good evening
[19:20] <inetpro> superfly: you should try scribefire
[19:22] <inetpro> see: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/scribefire-next/
[19:23] <magespawn> superfly it is just a blogger account with a custom domain
[19:23] <superfly> magespawn: ah
[19:24] <magespawn> and you superfly?
[19:25] <superfly> inetpro: have you seen blogilo?
[19:25] <superfly> Drupal
[19:25] <inetpro> superfly: hmm... no
[19:25] <superfly> inetpro: apt-get install!
[19:26] <inetpro> oh cool
[19:26] <magespawn> should have figured that superfly
[19:28] <inetpro> wow! and is part of the KDE PIM module!?
[19:28] <inetpro> nice!
[19:28]  * inetpro shall have to try this tomorrow some time
[19:28] <inetpro> to tired now
[19:38] <magespawn> will try it on the lappy
[19:39] <magespawn> good night all
[19:42] <superfly> night
[19:57]  * Squirm yawns
[20:06] <acherv> hi @all
[20:28] <charlvn> nn