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Nico92Why can I not log in as my self when booting up now?00:11
recon_lapyour having an identity crises?  :P00:12
Nico92When I log in with the correct password I get a half second black screen and then a small amount of text then black screen again then log in page again00:13
recon_lapNico92: have you tried login from a terminal window00:15
Nico92Ill try that right now00:16
recon_lapNico92: it's ctrl+alt+f1 i think00:16
dmourguethhello to all, someone know why I can't use Xubuntu 12.04 LTS? I'm using 11.10, but wen I try with 12.04 of xubuntu, ubuntu, and linux mint 13 doesn't work on my laptop, it is by the kernel? my laptop is too for it? someone konws?00:21
recon_lapdmourgueth: you getting a black screen?00:22
GridCubedmourgueth, we need more details to give you an answer to that00:23
dmourguethyes, I start from the live cd, but it start but no one start, even if I upgrade 11.10 to 12.04, the same happen, it doesn't start00:23
dmourgueththe procesor stop to load, but I only have a black screen00:24
recon_lapdmourgueth: maybe setting nomodeset as a boot option might work http://askubuntu.com/questions/38780/how-to-set-nomodeset-for-installation , not sure but seemed to be a common solution for a lot of people with proprietary graphic driver issues00:26
teteanyone know if when using dual monitor, can i have a taskbar for each screen?00:27
koegsyes, you can00:27
GridCubetete, yes00:27
tetekoegs, gridcube: !! how!00:27
dmourguethrencon_lap, so the problem is that my graphic card is too old (I have a compaq presario v2000 with Radeon HD 200M), and its't recognice by the kernel, rigth?00:29
tetei added a panel with "windows button" but now the list is duplicated in both monitors, not independient00:29
recon_lapdmourgueth: really need more information00:29
dmourguethok, I'll try it, thanks so much for your help00:31
tetemaybe xfce4 with awesome?00:32
koegstete: you need to uncheck the second box from the bottom http://www.simbuerger.eu/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/xfce07.png00:34
GridCubetete, on the windows button configuration make it to show only the current desktop items00:34
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tetekoegs  / GridCube : oh, easier that i though! ok, done. thanks!00:37
markyb86hello. I was wondering how hard it would be to update to gimp 2.8? if possible in 12.04?02:17
markyb86oops i closed pidgin did someone post to me02:18
tetehey, i am installing xfce 4.10, anyone got issues? is recommended?02:30
tetesaid nothing, i already had 4.802:41
markyb86i only have 4.8 too02:42
Unit193Xubuntu 12.10 will have Xfce 4.1002:42
tetenot LTS sadly02:44
newuserHi03:12
newuserI don't speak english03:12
newuseralguien habla español?03:13
Unit193!es03:14
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #xubuntu-es; escriba "/join #xubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. Si nadie responde, puedes intentar preguntando en #ubuntu-es.03:14
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apm1i recently edited my "grub.conf " to login into a cli session but that failed any other way i can boot into a cli only non x environment :) ?08:41
apm1TheSheep, any clue ?08:43
apm1hmmm, sony many wm-de but all bloats for my needs :p08:44
apm1*so many08:44
moetunesapm1: you want just a cli everytime?08:46
apm1yup08:46
moetunesor a light window manager?08:46
apm1no cli is enough08:47
apm1i have tried ratpoison and stuff like that :p , no good :(08:47
moetunesadd a 3 to the end of the kernel line - you can do that from grub08:47
apm1in grub.conf ?08:48
moetunesor from the grub menu08:48
apm1grub menu how ?08:48
moetunesselect the kernel you want to boot and press   e08:49
moetunesarrow down to the kernel line and press   e08:50
apm1ok08:50
apm1but what's with the 3 ?08:50
moetunes add a 3 to the end and press   enter08:50
moetunesthe init level - 5 is default and X08:50
apm1init level ?08:51
apm1ok so i have to replace 5 with 3 ?08:51
moetunesno - there will be no number there - add 308:52
apm1then why did you ever mention init level ?08:52
moetunesyou asked " but what's with the 3 ?"08:53
apm1my point is "i don't know what is init level ?"08:53
apm1if it isn't something i can screw up by adding 3 then i don't care about it :)08:54
apm1moetunes, well then i am gonna reboot now , thanks :)08:55
moetunesI had to check08:55
moetunesI hope he comes back08:56
ChesterXhey everybody, i was wondering: will Xubuntu 12.10 be release at the same time as ubuntu 12.10 (on the 18th)?09:16
moetunesthen or close to it09:17
apm1moetunes, that didn't work :(09:33
moetunesI was checking things as you left09:34
apm1moetunes, and ?09:34
moetunesinit levels 2-5 do the same thing - I'd change to a minimal install09:37
moetunes!minimal09:37
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD09:37
apm1moetunes,  i don't have the bandwidth to do a net-install :(09:38
moetunesmaybe try uninstalling lightdm09:38
apm1ok09:39
Nicolas_Hello forum11:37
Nicolas_Does any one would help me, I'm new to XUbuntu or Ubuntu in general I'm shifting to it.11:38
Nicolas_I have many question, I'll be pleased.11:38
Nicolas_How can I install XUbuntu using RAID then LVM11:39
Nicolas_Using Installer itself not command11:39
Nicolas_is that possile ?11:39
Nicolas_possible11:39
TheSheep!raid11:39
ubottuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto11:40
Nicolas_thanks guys replay11:42
Nicolas_Yes, I'm trying to RAID 1 ( mirror ) my HDDs and then make LVMs on top of them, except boot partition of course.11:43
Nicolas_you may found my questions or comments are silly but honestly, I'm on front of Ubuntu door, I didn't enter this lovely world11:44
Nicolas_yet11:44
recon_lapNicolas_: thats ok, but remember that most people here are doing other things as well, so if you get short answers or replies take forever thats not people being rude.11:45
recon_laphi ! Nicolas_11:46
recon_lap!hi | Nicolas_11:46
ubottuNicolas_: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!11:46
Nicolas_I'm just saying .. Many thanks gents .. much appreciated ..11:47
xubuntu960hello everyone :)13:28
john_rambohi13:28
xubuntu960installing xubuntu on virtual box VM, great to have chat during install :P13:29
GridCube:)13:31
baizoni didnt know thats even possible? :D13:31
GridCube:P thats posible on all linux livecds, xubuntu just makes it public13:32
ner0xJust started using Xubuntu, gotta say, I love it.13:33
GridCube:D awesome join #xubuntu-offtopic to random chatter about it :D13:35
ner0xGeneral questions about the OS and interface may be asked here, correct?13:36
Papa-SmurfHi13:36
GridCube!hi13:36
ubottuHi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!13:36
Papa-SmurfIs there any bug with VinoVNC and Ubuntu?13:37
Papa-Smurfi have correctly installed VinoVNC ser in Xubuntu and when i try to connect i just get a black screen13:37
GridCubenever used it, but i wonder if you have a) good conectivity and b) a vnc server runing on the destiny machine13:39
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Papa-Smurfi think it is because of my NVIDIA drivers13:41
Papa-Smurfdo you know how i can disable13:41
ner0xAre there any serious differences in chromium vs google-chrome-stable ?13:41
GridCubeno idea13:43
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hipparchiahi17:09
recon_lap!hi | hipparchia17:10
ubottuhipparchia: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!17:10
hipparchiahi recon_lap :)17:10
hipparchiaand thanks to the bot17:11
hipparchiaI still have the same problem as the other day17:11
hipparchiasometimes not always, when I start on xubuntu 12.04 I have a black screen and that does not boot17:11
baizonhipparchia: you have an ati video card?17:12
hipparchiaI tried many things, boot repair and so on, I checked about the graphic card17:12
recon_laphipparchia: is this every second time?17:12
hipparchiayes I do I have an ATI video card17:12
baizonhipparchia: ist a plymouth kms problem17:13
hipparchianot every second time, it can go very wel for a few days then it happens again17:13
baizonsec17:13
baizonhipparchia: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=206647717:13
hipparchiasorry baizon I am a poor noob girl hat is a plymouth kms ?17:13
hipparchiaty baizon, I go and see17:14
baizonhipparchia: read the thread, there is a sollution :)17:14
hipparchiamany thanks17:14
baizonno problem17:15
hipparchiasomething seems strange to me17:16
hipparchiais :   ls /var/log/Xorg.*  a right line ?17:16
hipparchiaI don't understand the. and the * at the end17:17
recon_laphipparchia: yes, that should work. are you having a problem with it?17:18
recon_laphipparchia: the "*" is a wild card , it means any file17:18
baizonhipparchia: just follow the post of pqwoerituytrueiwoq17:19
hipparchiaI got this : /var/log/Xorg.0.log  /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old17:19
baizonhipparchia: /var/log/Xorg.0.log17:19
baizonthe other file is just a old one :)17:19
hipparchiaso what does it mean ?17:19
recon_laphipparchia: "ls" means list files, "/var/log/" is a directory on your hard drive, and "Xorg.*" means any file starting with "Xorg."17:21
hipparchiayes that's ok17:21
hipparchiabut does /var/log/Xorg.0.log  /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old means all is correct or that something is wrong ?17:22
recon_laphipparchia: no, they are just the log files from Xorg, Xorg is the program that handles your display.17:23
hipparchiaok17:24
hipparchiaso that does not show me where the problem is...17:24
recon_laphipparchia: well, you should look in the logs to see if Xorg left you any messages as to why it stayed black :)17:25
hipparchiaok so I must open the /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?17:26
recon_laphipparchia: naa, just skip to the next post by pqwoerituytrueiwoq , he gives a solution that we hope will fix the problem.17:28
hipparchiaok thanks17:28
hipparchia=-O I will take time to understand what the pqwoerituytrueiwoq post says.17:31
hipparchiaI am not only noob am also french so I try to make sure to understand17:32
hipparchiaanyway, guys, thanks for helping me that's very kind from you17:32
recon_laphipparchia: do you know what resolution your screen is?17:32
hipparchiait is 1024x60017:33
recon_laphipparchia: type "xrandr" and see what it says17:34
hipparchiain a console ?17:34
recon_lapyep17:34
recon_lap1024X600 just looks wrong to me17:35
hipparchiaScreen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 600, maximum 8192 x 819217:35
hipparchiaLVDS connected 1024x600+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 220mm x 129mm17:35
hipparchia   1024x600       60.0*+17:35
hipparchia   800x600        59.917:35
hipparchia   848x480        59.717:35
hipparchia   720x480        59.717:35
hipparchia   640x480        59.417:35
hipparchiaHDMI-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)17:35
hipparchiaVGA-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)17:35
recon_lapnever mind, it's 1024X60017:36
hipparchia:)17:36
hipparchiaI have an eeepc seashell series17:36
GridCube!pastebin | hipparchia17:37
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recon_laphipparchia: so enter sudo sh -c "echo FRAMEBUFFER=y > /etc/initramfs-tools/modules" in terminal17:37
recon_lapthen sudo sh -c "echo scroll=y >> /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/splash"17:37
hipparchiadone :)17:38
recon_laphipparchia: then gksu leafpad /etc/default/grub17:39
hipparchiadone17:39
hipparchiait opened grub17:40
recon_laphipparchia: now carfully edit that file and add the same as pqwoerituytrueiwoq, but enter your resolution17:40
hipparchiathat's the point where I think I can fail17:41
recon_lapfind the line that starts with GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT17:42
hipparchiayes I saw he added many thinks after this line17:42
recon_laphipparchia: he only added two other lines17:43
hipparchiahe added this : nomodeset video=uvesafb:mode_option=1366x768-24,mtrr=3,scroll=ywrap"17:44
recon_lapchange line to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset video=uvesafb:mode_option=1024x600-24,mtrr=3,scroll=ywrap"17:44
hipparchiathat I DO fear...17:45
recon_laphipparchia: do a save as before you change anything, add a .old to the file17:46
hipparchiasorry tooo much complicated for me17:46
hipparchiaI prefer not to take any risk17:46
recon_laphipparchia: thats ok :)17:47
GridCubewhat seems to be the problem?17:48
baizonGridCube: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=206647717:49
hipparchiathanks all17:50
recon_lapjust hope the setting we already done have not broken it17:50
hipparchiayou mean the two lines I typed before opening grub ?17:50
recon_laphipparchia: yep17:50
hipparchiathis one  : sudo sh -c "echo FRAMEBUFFER=y > /etc/initramfs-tools/modules"17:51
hipparchiaand this one : sudo sh -c "echo scroll=y >> /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/splash"17:51
hipparchia???17:51
hipparchiawhat is the risk ?17:51
recon_lapyep, they set things in configuration files , wont take effect till next boot17:52
hipparchiaI try a new boot17:52
hipparchiasee you son perhaps17:52
hipparchia:)17:52
hipparchiaor before rebooting must I change anything ?17:52
recon_laphipparchia: why not just finish :)17:53
recon_laphipparchia: you can undo those changes, but you'll just have to open those files and remove the lines you added17:54
xubuntustanhi i have trouble getting my usb bluetooth working17:54
hipparchiaooops17:55
GridCubexubuntustan, define problems, and define working17:55
GridCubes/problems/trouble/17:55
recon_laphipparchia: or maybe they'll have no effect and you can just reboot, dont know till you try it17:55
hipparchiaLOL17:55
recon_laphipparchia: do you have another computer you can use irc on?17:56
hipparchiaanyway undoing those files, I woud be unable17:56
hipparchiano other computer, just a poor girl with only one lil eeepc...17:56
GridCubehipparchia, ill teach you how to irc from a tty in 10 seconds if you want17:57
xubuntustani have a logitech adapter and external usb connector, connection is made but audio keeps coming through lap top built in speakers17:57
hipparchiawhat is a tty ?17:57
GridCubehipparchia, press ctrl-alt-f1 to 717:57
hipparchia???17:57
GridCubewell 7 is the one you are using now17:57
recon_lapGridCube: and what does she do when the screen goes black? lol17:58
GridCubectrl-alt-f717:58
hipparchiawhat is a tty ?17:58
GridCubetext terminal interface17:59
GridCubeits like a terminal emulator, just not an emulator and for real17:59
hipparchiaa console then17:59
GridCubesort off17:59
GridCubeyes17:59
hipparchiabut why going to irc from that ?17:59
hipparchiaam on irc without that17:59
recon_lapit's what you use when you break you graphics and have to fix it in text only mode :)17:59
GridCubebecause if you cant log into your X's then you can still come here18:00
hipparchiahow can I reach pidgin from that ?18:00
GridCube:P you dont18:00
* hipparchia is TOTALLY confused18:00
GridCubeyou use another irc program18:00
hipparchiaI have not18:00
GridCubea text bsed one18:00
GridCubeits easy to install18:00
hipparchiaI have not18:00
GridCubesudo apt-get install irssi18:00
bazhangirssi and screen18:01
GridCubeno screen18:01
GridCubeirssi is enough18:01
bazhangyou'll never come back18:01
GridCube:P well thats probably true but too confusing for hipparchia18:01
hipparchiaoh guys I don't understand what you say, this is totally confusing18:01
GridCube:) ok listen18:01
hipparchiaI try18:01
bazhang!screen18:02
ubottuscreen is a window manager for terminal sessions, also useful over SSH. The 'byobu' package provides very useful additional utilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Screen18:02
GridCubeyou are doing something that you are afraid will break your graphical interface, im proposing you to learn how to access an irc server and its channels from a tty, so if that undesirible stage happens you can still come back here and ask what to do next18:02
hipparchiathe only thing I want to know is what to do if I cannnot reboot and break my graphical inerface18:03
GridCubeknowing a little about how to move around tty's is VERY helpful18:03
GridCubehipparchia, :) thats exactly what im proposing you, if your graphical interface fails you will be forced to use a tty18:04
hipparchiaif am in this thing you call tty, how can I access to my comp ?18:04
GridCubeits the same as a desktop, just not graphical18:04
GridCubeall your stuff is accesible and you can surf the internet and all that things18:05
hipparchiawould not it be easier to teach how to access the files I changed and erasing the changes ?18:05
hipparchiacause I think I would not be able to type lines to access my files18:05
recon_laphipparchia: ctrl-alt-f2 will give you text mode (black screen with login prompt ) ctrl-alt-f7 will bring you back to graphic mode18:06
GridCubehipparchia, :) i can teach you easy ways to do that18:06
hipparchiawould not it be easier to teach me how to access the files I changed and erasing the changes ?18:07
recon_laphipparchia: sure18:07
GridCubehipparchia, you are saying you are afraid of not being able to do that18:07
GridCubehipparchia, :) its actually really easy.18:08
hipparchiaI don't know how to do, but would not be easier to tell me how I can erase the changes than to teach me how to deal with installing a text IRC, coming back here and so on ?18:08
GridCubeas i said, maybe yes, maybe not18:09
GridCubeif something goes wrong with what we said you should do to erase the changes18:09
GridCubewhat would you do?18:10
hipparchiaa complete reinstall of my eeepc :(18:10
GridCubesee18:10
GridCubeits easier to simply learn how to use irssi :P18:10
GridCubebut then again, its REALLY easy18:12
GridCubeyou just install irssi now, sudo apt-get install irssi, and then when you are on a tty or a terminal you type irssi, then /server irc.ubuntu.com and then /join #xubuntu18:12
GridCubethats all you need to do18:12
GridCubeas i said 10 seconds18:12
recon_laphipparchia: so write those command down a bit of paper, then press ctrl-alt-f2, login , type those commands in, say hi to use here, if you get stuck just press ctrl-alt-f7 and your destop will reappear18:14
recon_lapuse/us*18:15
hipparchiaconfusing recon_lap, I don't understand nothing of what you said18:16
GridCubehipparchia, you know you have two keys on your keyboard, called control and alt18:16
GridCubethey are labeled ctrl and alt18:16
hipparchialol am noob but I know that18:17
GridCubeyou also have F keys on top of the keyboard, they are F1 fo F1218:17
hipparchiasame18:17
GridCubepress ctrl-alt-F118:17
GridCubeand you will go to tty118:17
hipparchiano18:17
GridCubepress ctrl-alt-F7 and you will come here18:17
hipparchiawhen I did that befoe, ctrl-alt-F1 I only have a WHITE screen, impossible to write anything on18:18
hipparchiaand I had to reboot18:18
GridCubeif you had pressed ctrl-alt-f7 you would have came back here18:19
GridCubeand thats a problem aswel18:19
GridCubeyour buffers are wrong18:19
hipparchiawhen I have login, what do I have to do ?18:20
GridCubetype your user name18:20
hipparchiaor password ?18:20
GridCubethen it ask you the password18:21
GridCubeit will stay blank and wont show anything wile you type18:21
GridCubejust like any password on linux terminals18:21
hipparchiaplease if I reboot and graphical breaks18:21
mechey, irssi , took me a couple of goes18:21
hipparchiawhat do I have to do :ctrl alt F1 or ctrl alt F718:22
recon_laphipparchia: a good tip is when having boot problem if you press shift while booting you get the boot menu18:22
hipparchiano18:23
hipparchiayou must type it BEFORE the boot prob18:23
GridCubef1 will send you to tty1, f7 to the first graphical interface, the oneyou are using now18:23
recon_lapand mec is my tty2 login :)18:23
hipparchiaI try guys18:24
hipparchiabye18:24
hipparchiaperhaps in anoher life...18:24
recon_laplol, any bets :)18:24
mecexit18:25
GridCube/exit18:25
recon_lapyep, got it the second time :)18:25
GridCubelearning how to irssi its a  basic linux survival skill18:26
GridCubealso installin mc :P18:27
recon_lapmc?18:27
baizonmidnight commander18:27
GridCube^^^18:27
baizonits the first thing i install18:27
recon_lapis it free?18:27
baizonlol18:27
GridCubeXD18:27
GridCubeahahaha good one18:27
recon_lapdamn , thought it was a game :-[18:28
GridCubeits a tui file manager :P18:28
baizonit should be by default installed :)18:30
GridCube:P18:31
hipparchiahi guys :)18:35
hipparchiait is cute from irssi18:35
hipparchiayou look great from there18:35
recon_laphey, you made it :)18:36
hipparchiaI did18:36
hipparchiathe changes of lines did not break anything... for now18:36
hipparchiait booted normally18:36
hipparchiabut i wanted to try this irssi thing I dowloaded18:36
hipparchiaI am a lil less noob girl now ...18:37
recon_lapgood, keep that link, when you get tired of black screens you can give it another go :P18:37
baizonwe are all noobs :)18:37
hipparchiaok :)18:37
recon_lapif you not careful you'll turn into a geek18:37
hipparchiathis word is wsidom, baizon  :)18:37
hipparchiawisdom18:37
* hipparchia bows in gassho in front of baizon 18:38
hipparchiaso you made me change lines somewhere-I-don't-know-here, recon_lap18:38
hipparchiabut it did not break anything...18:39
hipparchiafor now :)18:39
hipparchialol many steps on the wisdom path before I become a geek, recon_lap18:40
recon_lapin /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/splash18:40
hipparchiaanyway, THANK YOU guys18:40
baizonnp :)18:40
baizonsee you soon ;)18:40
hipparchiasee you soon, baizon18:41
hipparchiaand thanks for taking care a poor noob18:41
recon_lapnp hipparchia, take care18:41
hipparchia:)18:42
hipparchiabye for now, guys18:42
hipparchiaI will come again and cruise around here18:42
baizonbye bye18:43
koegsthe xfce panels are not able to provide functionality like the win7 superbar or the unity launcher? (e.g. task-manager + launcher at the same time)19:03
recon_lapkoegs: not sure what you mean19:05
koegsfor example: i have starters in a panel: firefox, terminator, filezilla, etc.19:05
koegsif the application is not running, it will start the application, if the application already is running, it will bring the window to the front19:06
recon_lapkoegs: you can add launchers to your panels that will open apps, and there is a windows buttons applet that will show running program and bring them to the front when clicked19:07
Sysikoegs: there's no such plugin afaik, you need to use some dock app19:08
koegsyes, but i want it combined19:08
ner0xAny reason chromium is chosen over google-chrome-stable?19:08
Sysiit's open source19:08
koegsSysi: i know that there are docks, but i do not like them, so i thought if it is possible with xfce itself19:08
Sysihmm, dockbarx may work with xfce19:10
ner0xDesktop Behavior: Where do I go to configure the action my OS takes for when I close the laptop lid?19:24
recon_lapner0x: power manager, but it's a bit odd19:25
ner0xrecon_lap: Please elaborate.19:25
recon_lapner0x: well, the setting sometimes dont take effect till you do a couple of random actions on you computer.19:26
ner0xrecon_lap: What...? Sounds very odd.19:27
recon_lapner0x: try it and see, maybe you'll have correct behavior19:27
ner0xWill do. Thank you.19:28
ner0xrecon_lap: Well, so far it worked as advertised.19:33
ryanbrunswickhey19:36
ryanbrunswickany chance i could get some help setting up the nvidia legacy drivers on my dell d800?19:36
martinphoneI need names of programs similar to evolution but better, am I asking too much?19:37
Sysimartinphone: define better19:38
martinphoneSysi, good question, better meaning I can use my tormail account with it, a more detailed network connection gui19:38
ryanbrunswickanyone?19:39
martinphoneim trying to use evolution with torsocks, if anyone can help me with the parameters...19:40
ryanbrunswickxubuntus icons are all fuzzed out and when i try to install legacy drivers it keeps telling me to kill X after I already did19:41
martinphonehow do I kill win from the command line?20:59
martinphonewine*20:59
martinphonekill wine?20:59
T61useranyone have any knowledge on mounting sony cameras?21:09
holsteinT61user: in what way? can you take some media out? like an SD card.. can you just plug it in via USB? ... i would plug it in and just look in the file manager21:11
T61userhi holstein: it is a sony cybershot, and it has an SD card21:12
T61userI tried to get photos out of it yesterday, and connected it to the laptop via USB.21:12
holsteinT61user: i would just take the sd card out and put it in my computer21:12
T61userthe icon showed up, but I couldn't open it to see the files.21:12
T61userthis laptop lacks an SD card reader21:12
holsteinT61user: you should report errors you find when it shows up and you click on it21:14
T61userSure.  But I came in here for assistance in mounting this device.  Do you know anything about these issues?21:15
holsteinT61user: i would click on it in the file manager and report the error you get21:16
holsteinT61user: that *should* mount it, and doen for me21:17
holsteinT61user: you'll need to get more specific about what happens.. and you can try mounting the device from the command line21:17
T61userwell, an icon appears, but nothing happens if I try to explore it.  In other words, your suggestion does not work, because I already tried doing that.21:18
holsteinT61user: sure.. and in what way doesnt it work?21:18
holsteinT61user: do you get a message?21:18
T61useras I said:  Nothing happens.  No message, nothing.21:18
holsteinT61user: does the location open and seem blank?21:18
T61userI would mention it if there was something.21:19
T61userno, it does not open. Double click results in nothing. Right click results in nothing.21:19
holsteinT61user: cool.. open a terminal with the camera plugged in via USB21:19
T61userthe SD card works, as it mounts rather easily using Mac21:19
holsteinkeep in mind we are all volunteers and try and remain patient as i troubleshoot with you21:19
holsteinfrom the terminal i would run "sudo fdisk -l"21:20
holsteini would expect to see the storage hard drive there... the sony device.. the sdcard from there21:20
holsteinT61user: this does *not* mean its mounted.. just that its "showing up"21:20
T61userthere is a partition called 'extended'21:21
T61userThere is nothing labeled Sony21:22
ner0xWhat would the package be for the LGPL of QT4 be?21:22
holsteinT61user: feel free and paste that output if you'd like help interpretting.. you will see no "sony" label21:22
holstein!paste | T61user21:22
ubottuT61user: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.21:22
T61useractually,21:23
T61userfdisk -l gives me the same output, whether or not the camera is plugged in via USB21:23
T61userhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1273837/21:24
T61userthat's the output21:24
holsteinT61user: so, the device is not being picked up.. what are you clicking on in the filemanger?21:27
holsteinT61user: feel free and take a screenshot of what you are clicking on21:27
holsteinsometimes the camera shows up and you can use it as a webcam21:27
T61useran icon shows up on the desktop, titled" 999 MB Filesystem"21:27
T61userit is unresponsive21:27
holsteinT61user: i have a camera... it matters what position the camera settings are in... if its set one way, its a webcam.. the other, it mounts as a device21:28
T61useryes, the setting is 'auto'21:28
holsteinT61user: you might want to just try them all21:28
holsteinthe settings i mean21:28
holsteinso, /dev/sdb1 is not the camera? thats some usb device or some other hard drive?21:29
T61userthat has to be the camera21:30
holsteinT61user: not if you unhook it and its still there.. which is what i thought you said21:30
T61userthe one labeled /dev/sdb, that is21:30
T61userit does not show up when the camera is unplugged21:31
holsteini would try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB#Manually_Mounting21:31
holsteinif it doesnt work then.. i would try searching the forums for another user with that device21:31
T61userok, I'll take a look at that21:31
T61usergotta run, thanks21:31
holsteini would try another linux kernel to see if it supports the device any better21:32
holsteini find doing that with live CD's the easiest21:32
T61useryeah, the issue is that doing that amounts to time consuming trial and error21:32
T61userI don't have a lot of time for these things.21:32
T61userthank you for the suggestions.  I might be back later.21:33
holsteinsure... you can ask sony as well21:33
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xubuntu330Anyone know how to get audio to work over HDMI?22:28
recon_lapxubuntu330: should just work, but you have to set the right output in sound setting22:30
recon_lapxubuntu330: but have not used it in xubuntu myself22:31
ner0xIs there a way to save all my settings and copy it to a fresh install.22:31
ner0xMainly the shortcut keys.22:31
xubuntu330I wish it was that easy :)22:31
recon_lapxubuntu330: do you have options in sound setting -> outout devices?22:32
xubuntu330Under Output Devices it's listing my Radeon HD 4200 as the device22:32
xubuntu330Aloong side port it says HDMI/DisplayPort22:33
recon_lapxubuntu330: HDMI/Displayport look correct22:33
xubuntu330I'm not quite sure how exactly it should look.22:35
recon_lapxubuntu330: opps, go to configuration22:35
xubuntu330It says RS880 HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 4200 Series] Then Profile says Digital Stereo (HDMI) Output22:37
recon_lapxubuntu330: try the options, I always ended up trying out a couple before i got the right one :)22:37
recon_lapnever could remember the correct one22:38
xubuntu330Is there an actually options button or options as in whats displayed under my device22:41
recon_lap  xubuntu330: bit different than the last time I used it, set the configuration first, then go to output devices22:42
xubuntu330I tired every option there. If I play audio the bar moves under output devices but still can't hear anything. I guess I can't hear audio. Bummer22:48
xubuntu330Thanks for your time though.22:50
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xubuntu325Sweet HDMI audio works now. I just restarted computer and it worked.23:07

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