[00:11] <Nico92> Why can I not log in as my self when booting up now?
[00:12] <recon_lap> your having an identity crises?  :P
[00:13] <Nico92> When I log in with the correct password I get a half second black screen and then a small amount of text then black screen again then log in page again
[00:15] <recon_lap> Nico92: have you tried login from a terminal window
[00:16] <Nico92> Ill try that right now
[00:16] <recon_lap> Nico92: it's ctrl+alt+f1 i think
[00:21] <dmourgueth> hello to all, someone know why I can't use Xubuntu 12.04 LTS? I'm using 11.10, but wen I try with 12.04 of xubuntu, ubuntu, and linux mint 13 doesn't work on my laptop, it is by the kernel? my laptop is too for it? someone konws?
[00:22] <recon_lap> dmourgueth: you getting a black screen?
[00:23] <GridCube> dmourgueth, we need more details to give you an answer to that
[00:23] <dmourgueth> yes, I start from the live cd, but it start but no one start, even if I upgrade 11.10 to 12.04, the same happen, it doesn't start
[00:24] <dmourgueth> the procesor stop to load, but I only have a black screen
[00:26] <recon_lap> dmourgueth: maybe setting nomodeset as a boot option might work http://askubuntu.com/questions/38780/how-to-set-nomodeset-for-installation , not sure but seemed to be a common solution for a lot of people with proprietary graphic driver issues
[00:27] <tete> anyone know if when using dual monitor, can i have a taskbar for each screen?
[00:27] <koegs> yes, you can
[00:27] <GridCube> tete, yes
[00:27] <tete> koegs, gridcube: !! how!
[00:29] <dmourgueth> rencon_lap, so the problem is that my graphic card is too old (I have a compaq presario v2000 with Radeon HD 200M), and its't recognice by the kernel, rigth?
[00:29] <tete> i added a panel with "windows button" but now the list is duplicated in both monitors, not independient
[00:29] <recon_lap> dmourgueth: really need more information
[00:31] <dmourgueth> ok, I'll try it, thanks so much for your help
[00:32] <tete> maybe xfce4 with awesome?
[00:34] <koegs> tete: you need to uncheck the second box from the bottom http://www.simbuerger.eu/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/xfce07.png
[00:34] <GridCube> tete, on the windows button configuration make it to show only the current desktop items
[00:37] <tete> koegs  / GridCube : oh, easier that i though! ok, done. thanks!
[02:17] <markyb86> hello. I was wondering how hard it would be to update to gimp 2.8? if possible in 12.04?
[02:18] <markyb86> oops i closed pidgin did someone post to me
[02:30] <tete> hey, i am installing xfce 4.10, anyone got issues? is recommended?
[02:41] <tete> said nothing, i already had 4.8
[02:42] <markyb86> i only have 4.8 too
[02:42] <Unit193> Xubuntu 12.10 will have Xfce 4.10
[02:44] <tete> not LTS sadly
[03:12] <newuser> Hi
[03:12] <newuser> I don't speak english
[03:13] <newuser> alguien habla español?
[03:14] <Unit193> !es
[08:41] <apm1> i recently edited my "grub.conf " to login into a cli session but that failed any other way i can boot into a cli only non x environment :) ?
[08:43] <apm1> TheSheep, any clue ?
[08:44] <apm1> hmmm, sony many wm-de but all bloats for my needs :p
[08:44] <apm1> *so many
[08:46] <moetunes> apm1: you want just a cli everytime?
[08:46] <apm1> yup
[08:46] <moetunes> or a light window manager?
[08:47] <apm1> no cli is enough
[08:47] <apm1> i have tried ratpoison and stuff like that :p , no good :(
[08:47] <moetunes> add a 3 to the end of the kernel line - you can do that from grub
[08:48] <apm1> in grub.conf ?
[08:48] <moetunes> or from the grub menu
[08:48] <apm1> grub menu how ?
[08:49] <moetunes> select the kernel you want to boot and press   e
[08:50] <moetunes> arrow down to the kernel line and press   e
[08:50] <apm1> ok
[08:50] <apm1> but what's with the 3 ?
[08:50] <moetunes>  add a 3 to the end and press   enter
[08:50] <moetunes> the init level - 5 is default and X
[08:51] <apm1> init level ?
[08:51] <apm1> ok so i have to replace 5 with 3 ?
[08:52] <moetunes> no - there will be no number there - add 3
[08:52] <apm1> then why did you ever mention init level ?
[08:53] <moetunes> you asked " but what's with the 3 ?"
[08:53] <apm1> my point is "i don't know what is init level ?"
[08:54] <apm1> if it isn't something i can screw up by adding 3 then i don't care about it :)
[08:55] <apm1> moetunes, well then i am gonna reboot now , thanks :)
[08:55] <moetunes> I had to check
[08:56] <moetunes> I hope he comes back
[09:16] <ChesterX> hey everybody, i was wondering: will Xubuntu 12.10 be release at the same time as ubuntu 12.10 (on the 18th)?
[09:17] <moetunes> then or close to it
[09:33] <apm1> moetunes, that didn't work :(
[09:34] <moetunes> I was checking things as you left
[09:34] <apm1> moetunes, and ?
[09:37] <moetunes> init levels 2-5 do the same thing - I'd change to a minimal install
[09:37] <moetunes> !minimal
[09:38] <apm1> moetunes,  i don't have the bandwidth to do a net-install :(
[09:38] <moetunes> maybe try uninstalling lightdm
[09:39] <apm1> ok
[11:37] <Nicolas_> Hello forum
[11:38] <Nicolas_> Does any one would help me, I'm new to XUbuntu or Ubuntu in general I'm shifting to it.
[11:38] <Nicolas_> I have many question, I'll be pleased.
[11:39] <Nicolas_> How can I install XUbuntu using RAID then LVM
[11:39] <Nicolas_> Using Installer itself not command
[11:39] <Nicolas_> is that possile ?
[11:39] <Nicolas_> possible
[11:39] <TheSheep> !raid
[11:42] <Nicolas_> thanks guys replay
[11:43] <Nicolas_> Yes, I'm trying to RAID 1 ( mirror ) my HDDs and then make LVMs on top of them, except boot partition of course.
[11:44] <Nicolas_> you may found my questions or comments are silly but honestly, I'm on front of Ubuntu door, I didn't enter this lovely world
[11:44] <Nicolas_> yet
[11:45] <recon_lap> Nicolas_: thats ok, but remember that most people here are doing other things as well, so if you get short answers or replies take forever thats not people being rude.
[11:46] <recon_lap> hi ! Nicolas_
[11:46] <recon_lap> !hi | Nicolas_
[11:47] <Nicolas_> I'm just saying .. Many thanks gents .. much appreciated ..
[13:28] <xubuntu960> hello everyone :)
[13:28] <john_rambo> hi
[13:29] <xubuntu960> installing xubuntu on virtual box VM, great to have chat during install :P
[13:31] <GridCube> :)
[13:31] <baizon> i didnt know thats even possible? :D
[13:32] <GridCube> :P thats posible on all linux livecds, xubuntu just makes it public
[13:33] <ner0x> Just started using Xubuntu, gotta say, I love it.
[13:35] <GridCube> :D awesome join #xubuntu-offtopic to random chatter about it :D
[13:36] <ner0x> General questions about the OS and interface may be asked here, correct?
[13:36] <Papa-Smurf> Hi
[13:36] <GridCube> !hi
[13:37] <Papa-Smurf> Is there any bug with VinoVNC and Ubuntu?
[13:37] <Papa-Smurf> i have correctly installed VinoVNC ser in Xubuntu and when i try to connect i just get a black screen
[13:39] <GridCube> never used it, but i wonder if you have a) good conectivity and b) a vnc server runing on the destiny machine
[13:41] <Papa-Smurf> i think it is because of my NVIDIA drivers
[13:41] <Papa-Smurf> do you know how i can disable
[13:41] <ner0x> Are there any serious differences in chromium vs google-chrome-stable ?
[13:43] <GridCube> no idea
[17:09] <hipparchia> hi
[17:10] <recon_lap> !hi | hipparchia
[17:10] <hipparchia> hi recon_lap :)
[17:11] <hipparchia> and thanks to the bot
[17:11] <hipparchia> I still have the same problem as the other day
[17:11] <hipparchia> sometimes not always, when I start on xubuntu 12.04 I have a black screen and that does not boot
[17:12] <baizon> hipparchia: you have an ati video card?
[17:12] <hipparchia> I tried many things, boot repair and so on, I checked about the graphic card
[17:12] <recon_lap> hipparchia: is this every second time?
[17:12] <hipparchia> yes I do I have an ATI video card
[17:13] <baizon> hipparchia: ist a plymouth kms problem
[17:13] <hipparchia> not every second time, it can go very wel for a few days then it happens again
[17:13] <baizon> sec
[17:13] <baizon> hipparchia: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2066477
[17:13] <hipparchia> sorry baizon I am a poor noob girl hat is a plymouth kms ?
[17:14] <hipparchia> ty baizon, I go and see
[17:14] <baizon> hipparchia: read the thread, there is a sollution :)
[17:14] <hipparchia> many thanks
[17:15] <baizon> no problem
[17:16] <hipparchia> something seems strange to me
[17:16] <hipparchia> is :   ls /var/log/Xorg.*  a right line ?
[17:17] <hipparchia> I don't understand the. and the * at the end
[17:18] <recon_lap> hipparchia: yes, that should work. are you having a problem with it?
[17:18] <recon_lap> hipparchia: the "*" is a wild card , it means any file
[17:19] <baizon> hipparchia: just follow the post of pqwoerituytrueiwoq
[17:19] <hipparchia> I got this : /var/log/Xorg.0.log  /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
[17:19] <baizon> hipparchia: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[17:19] <baizon> the other file is just a old one :)
[17:19] <hipparchia> so what does it mean ?
[17:21] <recon_lap> hipparchia: "ls" means list files, "/var/log/" is a directory on your hard drive, and "Xorg.*" means any file starting with "Xorg."
[17:21] <hipparchia> yes that's ok
[17:22] <hipparchia> but does /var/log/Xorg.0.log  /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old means all is correct or that something is wrong ?
[17:23] <recon_lap> hipparchia: no, they are just the log files from Xorg, Xorg is the program that handles your display.
[17:24] <hipparchia> ok
[17:24] <hipparchia> so that does not show me where the problem is...
[17:25] <recon_lap> hipparchia: well, you should look in the logs to see if Xorg left you any messages as to why it stayed black :)
[17:26] <hipparchia> ok so I must open the /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[17:28] <recon_lap> hipparchia: naa, just skip to the next post by pqwoerituytrueiwoq , he gives a solution that we hope will fix the problem.
[17:28] <hipparchia> ok thanks
[17:31] <hipparchia> =-O I will take time to understand what the pqwoerituytrueiwoq post says.
[17:32] <hipparchia> I am not only noob am also french so I try to make sure to understand
[17:32] <hipparchia> anyway, guys, thanks for helping me that's very kind from you
[17:32] <recon_lap> hipparchia: do you know what resolution your screen is?
[17:33] <hipparchia> it is 1024x600
[17:34] <recon_lap> hipparchia: type "xrandr" and see what it says
[17:34] <hipparchia> in a console ?
[17:34] <recon_lap> yep
[17:35] <recon_lap> 1024X600 just looks wrong to me
[17:35] <hipparchia> Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 600, maximum 8192 x 8192
[17:35] <hipparchia> LVDS connected 1024x600+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 220mm x 129mm
[17:35] <hipparchia>    1024x600       60.0*+
[17:35] <hipparchia>    800x600        59.9
[17:35] <hipparchia>    848x480        59.7
[17:35] <hipparchia>    720x480        59.7
[17:35] <hipparchia>    640x480        59.4
[17:35] <hipparchia> HDMI-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[17:35] <hipparchia> VGA-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[17:36] <recon_lap> never mind, it's 1024X600
[17:36] <hipparchia> :)
[17:36] <hipparchia> I have an eeepc seashell series
[17:37] <GridCube> !pastebin | hipparchia
[17:37] <recon_lap> hipparchia: so enter sudo sh -c "echo FRAMEBUFFER=y > /etc/initramfs-tools/modules" in terminal
[17:37] <recon_lap> then sudo sh -c "echo scroll=y >> /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/splash"
[17:38] <hipparchia> done :)
[17:39] <recon_lap> hipparchia: then gksu leafpad /etc/default/grub
[17:39] <hipparchia> done
[17:40] <hipparchia> it opened grub
[17:40] <recon_lap> hipparchia: now carfully edit that file and add the same as pqwoerituytrueiwoq, but enter your resolution
[17:41] <hipparchia> that's the point where I think I can fail
[17:42] <recon_lap> find the line that starts with GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[17:42] <hipparchia> yes I saw he added many thinks after this line
[17:43] <recon_lap> hipparchia: he only added two other lines
[17:44] <hipparchia> he added this : nomodeset video=uvesafb:mode_option=1366x768-24,mtrr=3,scroll=ywrap"
[17:44] <recon_lap> change line to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset video=uvesafb:mode_option=1024x600-24,mtrr=3,scroll=ywrap"
[17:45] <hipparchia> that I DO fear...
[17:46] <recon_lap> hipparchia: do a save as before you change anything, add a .old to the file
[17:46] <hipparchia> sorry tooo much complicated for me
[17:46] <hipparchia> I prefer not to take any risk
[17:47] <recon_lap> hipparchia: thats ok :)
[17:48] <GridCube> what seems to be the problem?
[17:49] <baizon> GridCube: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2066477
[17:50] <hipparchia> thanks all
[17:50] <recon_lap> just hope the setting we already done have not broken it
[17:50] <hipparchia> you mean the two lines I typed before opening grub ?
[17:50] <recon_lap> hipparchia: yep
[17:51] <hipparchia> this one  : sudo sh -c "echo FRAMEBUFFER=y > /etc/initramfs-tools/modules"
[17:51] <hipparchia> and this one : sudo sh -c "echo scroll=y >> /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/splash"
[17:51] <hipparchia> ???
[17:51] <hipparchia> what is the risk ?
[17:52] <recon_lap> yep, they set things in configuration files , wont take effect till next boot
[17:52] <hipparchia> I try a new boot
[17:52] <hipparchia> see you son perhaps
[17:52] <hipparchia> :)
[17:52] <hipparchia> or before rebooting must I change anything ?
[17:53] <recon_lap> hipparchia: why not just finish :)
[17:54] <recon_lap> hipparchia: you can undo those changes, but you'll just have to open those files and remove the lines you added
[17:54] <xubuntustan> hi i have trouble getting my usb bluetooth working
[17:55] <hipparchia> ooops
[17:55] <GridCube> xubuntustan, define problems, and define working
[17:55] <GridCube> s/problems/trouble/
[17:55] <recon_lap> hipparchia: or maybe they'll have no effect and you can just reboot, dont know till you try it
[17:55] <hipparchia> LOL
[17:56] <recon_lap> hipparchia: do you have another computer you can use irc on?
[17:56] <hipparchia> anyway undoing those files, I woud be unable
[17:56] <hipparchia> no other computer, just a poor girl with only one lil eeepc...
[17:57] <GridCube> hipparchia, ill teach you how to irc from a tty in 10 seconds if you want
[17:57] <xubuntustan> i have a logitech adapter and external usb connector, connection is made but audio keeps coming through lap top built in speakers
[17:57] <hipparchia> what is a tty ?
[17:57] <GridCube> hipparchia, press ctrl-alt-f1 to 7
[17:57] <hipparchia> ???
[17:57] <GridCube> well 7 is the one you are using now
[17:58] <recon_lap> GridCube: and what does she do when the screen goes black? lol
[17:58] <GridCube> ctrl-alt-f7
[17:58] <hipparchia> what is a tty ?
[17:59] <GridCube> text terminal interface
[17:59] <GridCube> its like a terminal emulator, just not an emulator and for real
[17:59] <hipparchia> a console then
[17:59] <GridCube> sort off
[17:59] <GridCube> yes
[17:59] <hipparchia> but why going to irc from that ?
[17:59] <hipparchia> am on irc without that
[17:59] <recon_lap> it's what you use when you break you graphics and have to fix it in text only mode :)
[18:00] <GridCube> because if you cant log into your X's then you can still come here
[18:00] <hipparchia> how can I reach pidgin from that ?
[18:00] <GridCube> :P you dont
[18:00]  * hipparchia is TOTALLY confused
[18:00] <GridCube> you use another irc program
[18:00] <hipparchia> I have not
[18:00] <GridCube> a text bsed one
[18:00] <GridCube> its easy to install
[18:00] <hipparchia> I have not
[18:00] <GridCube> sudo apt-get install irssi
[18:01] <bazhang> irssi and screen
[18:01] <GridCube> no screen
[18:01] <GridCube> irssi is enough
[18:01] <bazhang> you'll never come back
[18:01] <GridCube> :P well thats probably true but too confusing for hipparchia
[18:01] <hipparchia> oh guys I don't understand what you say, this is totally confusing
[18:01] <GridCube> :) ok listen
[18:01] <hipparchia> I try
[18:02] <bazhang> !screen
[18:02] <GridCube> you are doing something that you are afraid will break your graphical interface, im proposing you to learn how to access an irc server and its channels from a tty, so if that undesirible stage happens you can still come back here and ask what to do next
[18:03] <hipparchia> the only thing I want to know is what to do if I cannnot reboot and break my graphical inerface
[18:03] <GridCube> knowing a little about how to move around tty's is VERY helpful
[18:04] <GridCube> hipparchia, :) thats exactly what im proposing you, if your graphical interface fails you will be forced to use a tty
[18:04] <hipparchia> if am in this thing you call tty, how can I access to my comp ?
[18:04] <GridCube> its the same as a desktop, just not graphical
[18:05] <GridCube> all your stuff is accesible and you can surf the internet and all that things
[18:05] <hipparchia> would not it be easier to teach how to access the files I changed and erasing the changes ?
[18:05] <hipparchia> cause I think I would not be able to type lines to access my files
[18:06] <recon_lap> hipparchia: ctrl-alt-f2 will give you text mode (black screen with login prompt ) ctrl-alt-f7 will bring you back to graphic mode
[18:06] <GridCube> hipparchia, :) i can teach you easy ways to do that
[18:07] <hipparchia> would not it be easier to teach me how to access the files I changed and erasing the changes ?
[18:07] <recon_lap> hipparchia: sure
[18:07] <GridCube> hipparchia, you are saying you are afraid of not being able to do that
[18:08] <GridCube> hipparchia, :) its actually really easy.
[18:08] <hipparchia> I don't know how to do, but would not be easier to tell me how I can erase the changes than to teach me how to deal with installing a text IRC, coming back here and so on ?
[18:09] <GridCube> as i said, maybe yes, maybe not
[18:09] <GridCube> if something goes wrong with what we said you should do to erase the changes
[18:10] <GridCube> what would you do?
[18:10] <hipparchia> a complete reinstall of my eeepc :(
[18:10] <GridCube> see
[18:10] <GridCube> its easier to simply learn how to use irssi :P
[18:12] <GridCube> but then again, its REALLY easy
[18:12] <GridCube> you just install irssi now, sudo apt-get install irssi, and then when you are on a tty or a terminal you type irssi, then /server irc.ubuntu.com and then /join #xubuntu
[18:12] <GridCube> thats all you need to do
[18:12] <GridCube> as i said 10 seconds
[18:14] <recon_lap> hipparchia: so write those command down a bit of paper, then press ctrl-alt-f2, login , type those commands in, say hi to use here, if you get stuck just press ctrl-alt-f7 and your destop will reappear
[18:15] <recon_lap> use/us*
[18:16] <hipparchia> confusing recon_lap, I don't understand nothing of what you said
[18:16] <GridCube> hipparchia, you know you have two keys on your keyboard, called control and alt
[18:16] <GridCube> they are labeled ctrl and alt
[18:17] <hipparchia> lol am noob but I know that
[18:17] <GridCube> you also have F keys on top of the keyboard, they are F1 fo F12
[18:17] <hipparchia> same
[18:17] <GridCube> press ctrl-alt-F1
[18:17] <GridCube> and you will go to tty1
[18:17] <hipparchia> no
[18:17] <GridCube> press ctrl-alt-F7 and you will come here
[18:18] <hipparchia> when I did that befoe, ctrl-alt-F1 I only have a WHITE screen, impossible to write anything on
[18:18] <hipparchia> and I had to reboot
[18:19] <GridCube> if you had pressed ctrl-alt-f7 you would have came back here
[18:19] <GridCube> and thats a problem aswel
[18:19] <GridCube> your buffers are wrong
[18:20] <hipparchia> when I have login, what do I have to do ?
[18:20] <GridCube> type your user name
[18:20] <hipparchia> or password ?
[18:21] <GridCube> then it ask you the password
[18:21] <GridCube> it will stay blank and wont show anything wile you type
[18:21] <GridCube> just like any password on linux terminals
[18:21] <hipparchia> please if I reboot and graphical breaks
[18:21] <mec> hey, irssi , took me a couple of goes
[18:22] <hipparchia> what do I have to do :ctrl alt F1 or ctrl alt F7
[18:22] <recon_lap> hipparchia: a good tip is when having boot problem if you press shift while booting you get the boot menu
[18:23] <hipparchia> no
[18:23] <hipparchia> you must type it BEFORE the boot prob
[18:23] <GridCube> f1 will send you to tty1, f7 to the first graphical interface, the oneyou are using now
[18:23] <recon_lap> and mec is my tty2 login :)
[18:24] <hipparchia> I try guys
[18:24] <hipparchia> bye
[18:24] <hipparchia> perhaps in anoher life...
[18:24] <recon_lap> lol, any bets :)
[18:25] <mec> exit
[18:25] <GridCube> /exit
[18:25] <recon_lap> yep, got it the second time :)
[18:26] <GridCube> learning how to irssi its a  basic linux survival skill
[18:27] <GridCube> also installin mc :P
[18:27] <recon_lap> mc?
[18:27] <baizon> midnight commander
[18:27] <GridCube> ^^^
[18:27] <baizon> its the first thing i install
[18:27] <recon_lap> is it free?
[18:27] <baizon> lol
[18:27] <GridCube> XD
[18:27] <GridCube> ahahaha good one
[18:28] <recon_lap> damn , thought it was a game :-[
[18:28] <GridCube> its a tui file manager :P
[18:30] <baizon> it should be by default installed :)
[18:31] <GridCube> :P
[18:35] <hipparchia> hi guys :)
[18:35] <hipparchia> it is cute from irssi
[18:35] <hipparchia> you look great from there
[18:36] <recon_lap> hey, you made it :)
[18:36] <hipparchia> I did
[18:36] <hipparchia> the changes of lines did not break anything... for now
[18:36] <hipparchia> it booted normally
[18:36] <hipparchia> but i wanted to try this irssi thing I dowloaded
[18:37] <hipparchia> I am a lil less noob girl now ...
[18:37] <recon_lap> good, keep that link, when you get tired of black screens you can give it another go :P
[18:37] <baizon> we are all noobs :)
[18:37] <hipparchia> ok :)
[18:37] <recon_lap> if you not careful you'll turn into a geek
[18:37] <hipparchia> this word is wsidom, baizon  :)
[18:37] <hipparchia> wisdom
[18:38]  * hipparchia bows in gassho in front of baizon 
[18:38] <hipparchia> so you made me change lines somewhere-I-don't-know-here, recon_lap
[18:39] <hipparchia> but it did not break anything...
[18:39] <hipparchia> for now :)
[18:40] <hipparchia> lol many steps on the wisdom path before I become a geek, recon_lap
[18:40] <recon_lap> in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/splash
[18:40] <hipparchia> anyway, THANK YOU guys
[18:40] <baizon> np :)
[18:40] <baizon> see you soon ;)
[18:41] <hipparchia> see you soon, baizon
[18:41] <hipparchia> and thanks for taking care a poor noob
[18:41] <recon_lap> np hipparchia, take care
[18:42] <hipparchia> :)
[18:42] <hipparchia> bye for now, guys
[18:42] <hipparchia> I will come again and cruise around here
[18:43] <baizon> bye bye
[19:03] <koegs> the xfce panels are not able to provide functionality like the win7 superbar or the unity launcher? (e.g. task-manager + launcher at the same time)
[19:05] <recon_lap> koegs: not sure what you mean
[19:05] <koegs> for example: i have starters in a panel: firefox, terminator, filezilla, etc.
[19:06] <koegs> if the application is not running, it will start the application, if the application already is running, it will bring the window to the front
[19:07] <recon_lap> koegs: you can add launchers to your panels that will open apps, and there is a windows buttons applet that will show running program and bring them to the front when clicked
[19:08] <Sysi> koegs: there's no such plugin afaik, you need to use some dock app
[19:08] <koegs> yes, but i want it combined
[19:08] <ner0x> Any reason chromium is chosen over google-chrome-stable?
[19:08] <Sysi> it's open source
[19:08] <koegs> Sysi: i know that there are docks, but i do not like them, so i thought if it is possible with xfce itself
[19:10] <Sysi> hmm, dockbarx may work with xfce
[19:24] <ner0x> Desktop Behavior: Where do I go to configure the action my OS takes for when I close the laptop lid?
[19:25] <recon_lap> ner0x: power manager, but it's a bit odd
[19:25] <ner0x> recon_lap: Please elaborate.
[19:26] <recon_lap> ner0x: well, the setting sometimes dont take effect till you do a couple of random actions on you computer.
[19:27] <ner0x> recon_lap: What...? Sounds very odd.
[19:27] <recon_lap> ner0x: try it and see, maybe you'll have correct behavior
[19:28] <ner0x> Will do. Thank you.
[19:33] <ner0x> recon_lap: Well, so far it worked as advertised.
[19:36] <ryanbrunswick> hey
[19:36] <ryanbrunswick> any chance i could get some help setting up the nvidia legacy drivers on my dell d800?
[19:37] <martinphone> I need names of programs similar to evolution but better, am I asking too much?
[19:38] <Sysi> martinphone: define better
[19:38] <martinphone> Sysi, good question, better meaning I can use my tormail account with it, a more detailed network connection gui
[19:39] <ryanbrunswick> anyone?
[19:40] <martinphone> im trying to use evolution with torsocks, if anyone can help me with the parameters...
[19:41] <ryanbrunswick> xubuntus icons are all fuzzed out and when i try to install legacy drivers it keeps telling me to kill X after I already did
[20:59] <martinphone> how do I kill win from the command line?
[20:59] <martinphone> wine*
[20:59] <martinphone> kill wine?
[21:09] <T61user> anyone have any knowledge on mounting sony cameras?
[21:11] <holstein> T61user: in what way? can you take some media out? like an SD card.. can you just plug it in via USB? ... i would plug it in and just look in the file manager
[21:12] <T61user> hi holstein: it is a sony cybershot, and it has an SD card
[21:12] <T61user> I tried to get photos out of it yesterday, and connected it to the laptop via USB.
[21:12] <holstein> T61user: i would just take the sd card out and put it in my computer
[21:12] <T61user> the icon showed up, but I couldn't open it to see the files.
[21:12] <T61user> this laptop lacks an SD card reader
[21:14] <holstein> T61user: you should report errors you find when it shows up and you click on it
[21:15] <T61user> Sure.  But I came in here for assistance in mounting this device.  Do you know anything about these issues?
[21:16] <holstein> T61user: i would click on it in the file manager and report the error you get
[21:17] <holstein> T61user: that *should* mount it, and doen for me
[21:17] <holstein> T61user: you'll need to get more specific about what happens.. and you can try mounting the device from the command line
[21:18] <T61user> well, an icon appears, but nothing happens if I try to explore it.  In other words, your suggestion does not work, because I already tried doing that.
[21:18] <holstein> T61user: sure.. and in what way doesnt it work?
[21:18] <holstein> T61user: do you get a message?
[21:18] <T61user> as I said:  Nothing happens.  No message, nothing.
[21:18] <holstein> T61user: does the location open and seem blank?
[21:19] <T61user> I would mention it if there was something.
[21:19] <T61user> no, it does not open. Double click results in nothing. Right click results in nothing.
[21:19] <holstein> T61user: cool.. open a terminal with the camera plugged in via USB
[21:19] <T61user> the SD card works, as it mounts rather easily using Mac
[21:19] <holstein> keep in mind we are all volunteers and try and remain patient as i troubleshoot with you
[21:20] <holstein> from the terminal i would run "sudo fdisk -l"
[21:20] <holstein> i would expect to see the storage hard drive there... the sony device.. the sdcard from there
[21:20] <holstein> T61user: this does *not* mean its mounted.. just that its "showing up"
[21:21] <T61user> there is a partition called 'extended'
[21:22] <T61user> There is nothing labeled Sony
[21:22] <ner0x> What would the package be for the LGPL of QT4 be?
[21:22] <holstein> T61user: feel free and paste that output if you'd like help interpretting.. you will see no "sony" label
[21:22] <holstein> !paste | T61user
[21:23] <T61user> actually,
[21:23] <T61user> fdisk -l gives me the same output, whether or not the camera is plugged in via USB
[21:24] <T61user> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1273837/
[21:24] <T61user> that's the output
[21:27] <holstein> T61user: so, the device is not being picked up.. what are you clicking on in the filemanger?
[21:27] <holstein> T61user: feel free and take a screenshot of what you are clicking on
[21:27] <holstein> sometimes the camera shows up and you can use it as a webcam
[21:27] <T61user> an icon shows up on the desktop, titled" 999 MB Filesystem"
[21:27] <T61user> it is unresponsive
[21:28] <holstein> T61user: i have a camera... it matters what position the camera settings are in... if its set one way, its a webcam.. the other, it mounts as a device
[21:28] <T61user> yes, the setting is 'auto'
[21:28] <holstein> T61user: you might want to just try them all
[21:28] <holstein> the settings i mean
[21:29] <holstein> so, /dev/sdb1 is not the camera? thats some usb device or some other hard drive?
[21:30] <T61user> that has to be the camera
[21:30] <holstein> T61user: not if you unhook it and its still there.. which is what i thought you said
[21:30] <T61user> the one labeled /dev/sdb, that is
[21:31] <T61user> it does not show up when the camera is unplugged
[21:31] <holstein> i would try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB#Manually_Mounting
[21:31] <holstein> if it doesnt work then.. i would try searching the forums for another user with that device
[21:31] <T61user> ok, I'll take a look at that
[21:31] <T61user> gotta run, thanks
[21:32] <holstein> i would try another linux kernel to see if it supports the device any better
[21:32] <holstein> i find doing that with live CD's the easiest
[21:32] <T61user> yeah, the issue is that doing that amounts to time consuming trial and error
[21:32] <T61user> I don't have a lot of time for these things.
[21:33] <T61user> thank you for the suggestions.  I might be back later.
[21:33] <holstein> sure... you can ask sony as well
[22:11] <vacation9> Hi!
[22:11] <GridCube> !hi
[22:28] <xubuntu330> Anyone know how to get audio to work over HDMI?
[22:30] <recon_lap> xubuntu330: should just work, but you have to set the right output in sound setting
[22:31] <recon_lap> xubuntu330: but have not used it in xubuntu myself
[22:31] <ner0x> Is there a way to save all my settings and copy it to a fresh install.
[22:31] <ner0x> Mainly the shortcut keys.
[22:31] <xubuntu330> I wish it was that easy :)
[22:32] <recon_lap> xubuntu330: do you have options in sound setting -> outout devices?
[22:32] <xubuntu330> Under Output Devices it's listing my Radeon HD 4200 as the device
[22:33] <xubuntu330> Aloong side port it says HDMI/DisplayPort
[22:33] <recon_lap> xubuntu330: HDMI/Displayport look correct
[22:35] <xubuntu330> I'm not quite sure how exactly it should look.
[22:35] <recon_lap> xubuntu330: opps, go to configuration
[22:37] <xubuntu330> It says RS880 HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 4200 Series] Then Profile says Digital Stereo (HDMI) Output
[22:37] <recon_lap> xubuntu330: try the options, I always ended up trying out a couple before i got the right one :)
[22:38] <recon_lap> never could remember the correct one
[22:41] <xubuntu330> Is there an actually options button or options as in whats displayed under my device
[22:42] <recon_lap>   xubuntu330: bit different than the last time I used it, set the configuration first, then go to output devices
[22:48] <xubuntu330> I tired every option there. If I play audio the bar moves under output devices but still can't hear anything. I guess I can't hear audio. Bummer
[22:50] <xubuntu330> Thanks for your time though.
[23:07] <xubuntu325> Sweet HDMI audio works now. I just restarted computer and it worked.