[00:11] Why can I not log in as my self when booting up now? [00:12] your having an identity crises? :P [00:13] When I log in with the correct password I get a half second black screen and then a small amount of text then black screen again then log in page again [00:15] Nico92: have you tried login from a terminal window [00:16] Ill try that right now [00:16] Nico92: it's ctrl+alt+f1 i think [00:21] hello to all, someone know why I can't use Xubuntu 12.04 LTS? I'm using 11.10, but wen I try with 12.04 of xubuntu, ubuntu, and linux mint 13 doesn't work on my laptop, it is by the kernel? my laptop is too for it? someone konws? [00:22] dmourgueth: you getting a black screen? [00:23] dmourgueth, we need more details to give you an answer to that [00:23] yes, I start from the live cd, but it start but no one start, even if I upgrade 11.10 to 12.04, the same happen, it doesn't start [00:24] the procesor stop to load, but I only have a black screen [00:26] dmourgueth: maybe setting nomodeset as a boot option might work http://askubuntu.com/questions/38780/how-to-set-nomodeset-for-installation , not sure but seemed to be a common solution for a lot of people with proprietary graphic driver issues [00:27] anyone know if when using dual monitor, can i have a taskbar for each screen? [00:27] yes, you can [00:27] tete, yes [00:27] koegs, gridcube: !! how! [00:29] rencon_lap, so the problem is that my graphic card is too old (I have a compaq presario v2000 with Radeon HD 200M), and its't recognice by the kernel, rigth? [00:29] i added a panel with "windows button" but now the list is duplicated in both monitors, not independient [00:29] dmourgueth: really need more information [00:31] ok, I'll try it, thanks so much for your help [00:32] maybe xfce4 with awesome? [00:34] tete: you need to uncheck the second box from the bottom http://www.simbuerger.eu/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/xfce07.png [00:34] tete, on the windows button configuration make it to show only the current desktop items === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [00:37] koegs / GridCube : oh, easier that i though! ok, done. thanks! [02:17] hello. I was wondering how hard it would be to update to gimp 2.8? if possible in 12.04? [02:18] oops i closed pidgin did someone post to me [02:30] hey, i am installing xfce 4.10, anyone got issues? is recommended? [02:41] said nothing, i already had 4.8 [02:42] i only have 4.8 too [02:42] Xubuntu 12.10 will have Xfce 4.10 [02:44] not LTS sadly [03:12] Hi [03:12] I don't speak english [03:13] alguien habla español? [03:14] !es [03:14] En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #xubuntu-es; escriba "/join #xubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. Si nadie responde, puedes intentar preguntando en #ubuntu-es. === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [08:41] i recently edited my "grub.conf " to login into a cli session but that failed any other way i can boot into a cli only non x environment :) ? [08:43] TheSheep, any clue ? [08:44] hmmm, sony many wm-de but all bloats for my needs :p [08:44] *so many [08:46] apm1: you want just a cli everytime? [08:46] yup [08:46] or a light window manager? [08:47] no cli is enough [08:47] i have tried ratpoison and stuff like that :p , no good :( [08:47] add a 3 to the end of the kernel line - you can do that from grub [08:48] in grub.conf ? [08:48] or from the grub menu [08:48] grub menu how ? [08:49] select the kernel you want to boot and press e [08:50] arrow down to the kernel line and press e [08:50] ok [08:50] but what's with the 3 ? [08:50] add a 3 to the end and press enter [08:50] the init level - 5 is default and X [08:51] init level ? [08:51] ok so i have to replace 5 with 3 ? [08:52] no - there will be no number there - add 3 [08:52] then why did you ever mention init level ? [08:53] you asked " but what's with the 3 ?" [08:53] my point is "i don't know what is init level ?" [08:54] if it isn't something i can screw up by adding 3 then i don't care about it :) [08:55] moetunes, well then i am gonna reboot now , thanks :) [08:55] I had to check [08:56] I hope he comes back [09:16] hey everybody, i was wondering: will Xubuntu 12.10 be release at the same time as ubuntu 12.10 (on the 18th)? [09:17] then or close to it [09:33] moetunes, that didn't work :( [09:34] I was checking things as you left [09:34] moetunes, and ? [09:37] init levels 2-5 do the same thing - I'd change to a minimal install [09:37] !minimal [09:37] The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [09:38] moetunes, i don't have the bandwidth to do a net-install :( [09:38] maybe try uninstalling lightdm [09:39] ok [11:37] Hello forum [11:38] Does any one would help me, I'm new to XUbuntu or Ubuntu in general I'm shifting to it. [11:38] I have many question, I'll be pleased. [11:39] How can I install XUbuntu using RAID then LVM [11:39] Using Installer itself not command [11:39] is that possile ? [11:39] possible [11:39] !raid [11:40] Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto [11:42] thanks guys replay [11:43] Yes, I'm trying to RAID 1 ( mirror ) my HDDs and then make LVMs on top of them, except boot partition of course. [11:44] you may found my questions or comments are silly but honestly, I'm on front of Ubuntu door, I didn't enter this lovely world [11:44] yet [11:45] Nicolas_: thats ok, but remember that most people here are doing other things as well, so if you get short answers or replies take forever thats not people being rude. [11:46] hi ! Nicolas_ [11:46] !hi | Nicolas_ [11:46] Nicolas_: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! [11:47] I'm just saying .. Many thanks gents .. much appreciated .. [13:28] hello everyone :) [13:28] hi [13:29] installing xubuntu on virtual box VM, great to have chat during install :P [13:31] :) [13:31] i didnt know thats even possible? :D [13:32] :P thats posible on all linux livecds, xubuntu just makes it public [13:33] Just started using Xubuntu, gotta say, I love it. [13:35] :D awesome join #xubuntu-offtopic to random chatter about it :D [13:36] General questions about the OS and interface may be asked here, correct? [13:36] Hi [13:36] !hi [13:36] Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! [13:37] Is there any bug with VinoVNC and Ubuntu? [13:37] i have correctly installed VinoVNC ser in Xubuntu and when i try to connect i just get a black screen [13:39] never used it, but i wonder if you have a) good conectivity and b) a vnc server runing on the destiny machine === slow-motion is now known as unsink-bar [13:41] i think it is because of my NVIDIA drivers [13:41] do you know how i can disable [13:41] Are there any serious differences in chromium vs google-chrome-stable ? [13:43] no idea === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [17:09] hi [17:10] !hi | hipparchia [17:10] hipparchia: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! [17:10] hi recon_lap :) [17:11] and thanks to the bot [17:11] I still have the same problem as the other day [17:11] sometimes not always, when I start on xubuntu 12.04 I have a black screen and that does not boot [17:12] hipparchia: you have an ati video card? [17:12] I tried many things, boot repair and so on, I checked about the graphic card [17:12] hipparchia: is this every second time? [17:12] yes I do I have an ATI video card [17:13] hipparchia: ist a plymouth kms problem [17:13] not every second time, it can go very wel for a few days then it happens again [17:13] sec [17:13] hipparchia: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2066477 [17:13] sorry baizon I am a poor noob girl hat is a plymouth kms ? [17:14] ty baizon, I go and see [17:14] hipparchia: read the thread, there is a sollution :) [17:14] many thanks [17:15] no problem [17:16] something seems strange to me [17:16] is : ls /var/log/Xorg.* a right line ? [17:17] I don't understand the. and the * at the end [17:18] hipparchia: yes, that should work. are you having a problem with it? [17:18] hipparchia: the "*" is a wild card , it means any file [17:19] hipparchia: just follow the post of pqwoerituytrueiwoq [17:19] I got this : /var/log/Xorg.0.log /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old [17:19] hipparchia: /var/log/Xorg.0.log [17:19] the other file is just a old one :) [17:19] so what does it mean ? [17:21] hipparchia: "ls" means list files, "/var/log/" is a directory on your hard drive, and "Xorg.*" means any file starting with "Xorg." [17:21] yes that's ok [17:22] but does /var/log/Xorg.0.log /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old means all is correct or that something is wrong ? [17:23] hipparchia: no, they are just the log files from Xorg, Xorg is the program that handles your display. [17:24] ok [17:24] so that does not show me where the problem is... [17:25] hipparchia: well, you should look in the logs to see if Xorg left you any messages as to why it stayed black :) [17:26] ok so I must open the /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? [17:28] hipparchia: naa, just skip to the next post by pqwoerituytrueiwoq , he gives a solution that we hope will fix the problem. [17:28] ok thanks [17:31] =-O I will take time to understand what the pqwoerituytrueiwoq post says. [17:32] I am not only noob am also french so I try to make sure to understand [17:32] anyway, guys, thanks for helping me that's very kind from you [17:32] hipparchia: do you know what resolution your screen is? [17:33] it is 1024x600 [17:34] hipparchia: type "xrandr" and see what it says [17:34] in a console ? [17:34] yep [17:35] 1024X600 just looks wrong to me [17:35] Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 600, maximum 8192 x 8192 [17:35] LVDS connected 1024x600+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 220mm x 129mm [17:35] 1024x600 60.0*+ [17:35] 800x600 59.9 [17:35] 848x480 59.7 [17:35] 720x480 59.7 [17:35] 640x480 59.4 [17:35] HDMI-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) [17:35] VGA-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) [17:36] never mind, it's 1024X600 [17:36] :) [17:36] I have an eeepc seashell series [17:37] !pastebin | hipparchia [17:37] hipparchia: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [17:37] hipparchia: so enter sudo sh -c "echo FRAMEBUFFER=y > /etc/initramfs-tools/modules" in terminal [17:37] then sudo sh -c "echo scroll=y >> /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/splash" [17:38] done :) [17:39] hipparchia: then gksu leafpad /etc/default/grub [17:39] done [17:40] it opened grub [17:40] hipparchia: now carfully edit that file and add the same as pqwoerituytrueiwoq, but enter your resolution [17:41] that's the point where I think I can fail [17:42] find the line that starts with GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT [17:42] yes I saw he added many thinks after this line [17:43] hipparchia: he only added two other lines [17:44] he added this : nomodeset video=uvesafb:mode_option=1366x768-24,mtrr=3,scroll=ywrap" [17:44] change line to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset video=uvesafb:mode_option=1024x600-24,mtrr=3,scroll=ywrap" [17:45] that I DO fear... [17:46] hipparchia: do a save as before you change anything, add a .old to the file [17:46] sorry tooo much complicated for me [17:46] I prefer not to take any risk [17:47] hipparchia: thats ok :) [17:48] what seems to be the problem? [17:49] GridCube: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2066477 [17:50] thanks all [17:50] just hope the setting we already done have not broken it [17:50] you mean the two lines I typed before opening grub ? [17:50] hipparchia: yep [17:51] this one : sudo sh -c "echo FRAMEBUFFER=y > /etc/initramfs-tools/modules" [17:51] and this one : sudo sh -c "echo scroll=y >> /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/splash" [17:51] ??? [17:51] what is the risk ? [17:52] yep, they set things in configuration files , wont take effect till next boot [17:52] I try a new boot [17:52] see you son perhaps [17:52] :) [17:52] or before rebooting must I change anything ? [17:53] hipparchia: why not just finish :) [17:54] hipparchia: you can undo those changes, but you'll just have to open those files and remove the lines you added [17:54] hi i have trouble getting my usb bluetooth working [17:55] ooops [17:55] xubuntustan, define problems, and define working [17:55] s/problems/trouble/ [17:55] hipparchia: or maybe they'll have no effect and you can just reboot, dont know till you try it [17:55] LOL [17:56] hipparchia: do you have another computer you can use irc on? [17:56] anyway undoing those files, I woud be unable [17:56] no other computer, just a poor girl with only one lil eeepc... [17:57] hipparchia, ill teach you how to irc from a tty in 10 seconds if you want [17:57] i have a logitech adapter and external usb connector, connection is made but audio keeps coming through lap top built in speakers [17:57] what is a tty ? [17:57] hipparchia, press ctrl-alt-f1 to 7 [17:57] ??? [17:57] well 7 is the one you are using now [17:58] GridCube: and what does she do when the screen goes black? lol [17:58] ctrl-alt-f7 [17:58] what is a tty ? [17:59] text terminal interface [17:59] its like a terminal emulator, just not an emulator and for real [17:59] a console then [17:59] sort off [17:59] yes [17:59] but why going to irc from that ? [17:59] am on irc without that [17:59] it's what you use when you break you graphics and have to fix it in text only mode :) [18:00] because if you cant log into your X's then you can still come here [18:00] how can I reach pidgin from that ? [18:00] :P you dont [18:00] * hipparchia is TOTALLY confused [18:00] you use another irc program [18:00] I have not [18:00] a text bsed one [18:00] its easy to install [18:00] I have not [18:00] sudo apt-get install irssi [18:01] irssi and screen [18:01] no screen [18:01] irssi is enough [18:01] you'll never come back [18:01] :P well thats probably true but too confusing for hipparchia [18:01] oh guys I don't understand what you say, this is totally confusing [18:01] :) ok listen [18:01] I try [18:02] !screen [18:02] screen is a window manager for terminal sessions, also useful over SSH. The 'byobu' package provides very useful additional utilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Screen [18:02] you are doing something that you are afraid will break your graphical interface, im proposing you to learn how to access an irc server and its channels from a tty, so if that undesirible stage happens you can still come back here and ask what to do next [18:03] the only thing I want to know is what to do if I cannnot reboot and break my graphical inerface [18:03] knowing a little about how to move around tty's is VERY helpful [18:04] hipparchia, :) thats exactly what im proposing you, if your graphical interface fails you will be forced to use a tty [18:04] if am in this thing you call tty, how can I access to my comp ? [18:04] its the same as a desktop, just not graphical [18:05] all your stuff is accesible and you can surf the internet and all that things [18:05] would not it be easier to teach how to access the files I changed and erasing the changes ? [18:05] cause I think I would not be able to type lines to access my files [18:06] hipparchia: ctrl-alt-f2 will give you text mode (black screen with login prompt ) ctrl-alt-f7 will bring you back to graphic mode [18:06] hipparchia, :) i can teach you easy ways to do that [18:07] would not it be easier to teach me how to access the files I changed and erasing the changes ? [18:07] hipparchia: sure [18:07] hipparchia, you are saying you are afraid of not being able to do that [18:08] hipparchia, :) its actually really easy. [18:08] I don't know how to do, but would not be easier to tell me how I can erase the changes than to teach me how to deal with installing a text IRC, coming back here and so on ? [18:09] as i said, maybe yes, maybe not [18:09] if something goes wrong with what we said you should do to erase the changes [18:10] what would you do? [18:10] a complete reinstall of my eeepc :( [18:10] see [18:10] its easier to simply learn how to use irssi :P [18:12] but then again, its REALLY easy [18:12] you just install irssi now, sudo apt-get install irssi, and then when you are on a tty or a terminal you type irssi, then /server irc.ubuntu.com and then /join #xubuntu [18:12] thats all you need to do [18:12] as i said 10 seconds [18:14] hipparchia: so write those command down a bit of paper, then press ctrl-alt-f2, login , type those commands in, say hi to use here, if you get stuck just press ctrl-alt-f7 and your destop will reappear [18:15] use/us* [18:16] confusing recon_lap, I don't understand nothing of what you said [18:16] hipparchia, you know you have two keys on your keyboard, called control and alt [18:16] they are labeled ctrl and alt [18:17] lol am noob but I know that [18:17] you also have F keys on top of the keyboard, they are F1 fo F12 [18:17] same [18:17] press ctrl-alt-F1 [18:17] and you will go to tty1 [18:17] no [18:17] press ctrl-alt-F7 and you will come here [18:18] when I did that befoe, ctrl-alt-F1 I only have a WHITE screen, impossible to write anything on [18:18] and I had to reboot [18:19] if you had pressed ctrl-alt-f7 you would have came back here [18:19] and thats a problem aswel [18:19] your buffers are wrong [18:20] when I have login, what do I have to do ? [18:20] type your user name [18:20] or password ? [18:21] then it ask you the password [18:21] it will stay blank and wont show anything wile you type [18:21] just like any password on linux terminals [18:21] please if I reboot and graphical breaks [18:21] hey, irssi , took me a couple of goes [18:22] what do I have to do :ctrl alt F1 or ctrl alt F7 [18:22] hipparchia: a good tip is when having boot problem if you press shift while booting you get the boot menu [18:23] no [18:23] you must type it BEFORE the boot prob [18:23] f1 will send you to tty1, f7 to the first graphical interface, the oneyou are using now [18:23] and mec is my tty2 login :) [18:24] I try guys [18:24] bye [18:24] perhaps in anoher life... [18:24] lol, any bets :) [18:25] exit [18:25] /exit [18:25] yep, got it the second time :) [18:26] learning how to irssi its a basic linux survival skill [18:27] also installin mc :P [18:27] mc? [18:27] midnight commander [18:27] ^^^ [18:27] its the first thing i install [18:27] is it free? [18:27] lol [18:27] XD [18:27] ahahaha good one [18:28] damn , thought it was a game :-[ [18:28] its a tui file manager :P [18:30] it should be by default installed :) [18:31] :P [18:35] hi guys :) [18:35] it is cute from irssi [18:35] you look great from there [18:36] hey, you made it :) [18:36] I did [18:36] the changes of lines did not break anything... for now [18:36] it booted normally [18:36] but i wanted to try this irssi thing I dowloaded [18:37] I am a lil less noob girl now ... [18:37] good, keep that link, when you get tired of black screens you can give it another go :P [18:37] we are all noobs :) [18:37] ok :) [18:37] if you not careful you'll turn into a geek [18:37] this word is wsidom, baizon :) [18:37] wisdom [18:38] * hipparchia bows in gassho in front of baizon [18:38] so you made me change lines somewhere-I-don't-know-here, recon_lap [18:39] but it did not break anything... [18:39] for now :) [18:40] lol many steps on the wisdom path before I become a geek, recon_lap [18:40] in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/splash [18:40] anyway, THANK YOU guys [18:40] np :) [18:40] see you soon ;) [18:41] see you soon, baizon [18:41] and thanks for taking care a poor noob [18:41] np hipparchia, take care [18:42] :) [18:42] bye for now, guys [18:42] I will come again and cruise around here [18:43] bye bye [19:03] the xfce panels are not able to provide functionality like the win7 superbar or the unity launcher? (e.g. task-manager + launcher at the same time) [19:05] koegs: not sure what you mean [19:05] for example: i have starters in a panel: firefox, terminator, filezilla, etc. [19:06] if the application is not running, it will start the application, if the application already is running, it will bring the window to the front [19:07] koegs: you can add launchers to your panels that will open apps, and there is a windows buttons applet that will show running program and bring them to the front when clicked [19:08] koegs: there's no such plugin afaik, you need to use some dock app [19:08] yes, but i want it combined [19:08] Any reason chromium is chosen over google-chrome-stable? [19:08] it's open source [19:08] Sysi: i know that there are docks, but i do not like them, so i thought if it is possible with xfce itself [19:10] hmm, dockbarx may work with xfce [19:24] Desktop Behavior: Where do I go to configure the action my OS takes for when I close the laptop lid? [19:25] ner0x: power manager, but it's a bit odd [19:25] recon_lap: Please elaborate. [19:26] ner0x: well, the setting sometimes dont take effect till you do a couple of random actions on you computer. [19:27] recon_lap: What...? Sounds very odd. [19:27] ner0x: try it and see, maybe you'll have correct behavior [19:28] Will do. Thank you. [19:33] recon_lap: Well, so far it worked as advertised. [19:36] hey [19:36] any chance i could get some help setting up the nvidia legacy drivers on my dell d800? [19:37] I need names of programs similar to evolution but better, am I asking too much? [19:38] martinphone: define better [19:38] Sysi, good question, better meaning I can use my tormail account with it, a more detailed network connection gui [19:39] anyone? [19:40] im trying to use evolution with torsocks, if anyone can help me with the parameters... [19:41] xubuntus icons are all fuzzed out and when i try to install legacy drivers it keeps telling me to kill X after I already did [20:59] how do I kill win from the command line? [20:59] wine* [20:59] kill wine? [21:09] anyone have any knowledge on mounting sony cameras? [21:11] T61user: in what way? can you take some media out? like an SD card.. can you just plug it in via USB? ... i would plug it in and just look in the file manager [21:12] hi holstein: it is a sony cybershot, and it has an SD card [21:12] I tried to get photos out of it yesterday, and connected it to the laptop via USB. [21:12] T61user: i would just take the sd card out and put it in my computer [21:12] the icon showed up, but I couldn't open it to see the files. [21:12]