| mparillo | Did the Ubuntu webadmins agree to update http://www.kubuntu.org/feature-tour/ | 00:52 |
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| mparillo | It looks like a place holder page to me. | 00:52 |
| Riddell | mparillo: hum, spooky | 01:24 |
| ScottK | Please start testing. | 01:26 |
| mparillo | Our spooky day is Halloween,the last day of October, right before the Solemnity of All Saints, but seriously, I wondered if that was a prep step for them to re-do the page. | 01:26 |
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| shadeslayer | hmph, ktorrent with precise is fairly annoying | 10:12 |
| shadeslayer | clicking on stop makes ktorrent hang forever >.> | 10:12 |
| shadeslayer | Will probably hunt down a patch and SRU later on | 10:13 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: time to upgrade to quantal! | 10:13 |
| Riddell | we're just needing some testers right about now | 10:13 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: the X stack on quantal does not agree with me | 10:13 |
| shadeslayer | which is why I rolled back to precise | 10:13 |
| * shadeslayer can test in a kvm | 10:13 | |
| shadeslayer | with vncviewer | 10:13 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 10:14 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: hum that's quite worrying, what about you does it not agree with? | 10:18 |
| Riddell | gosh there's a second jonathan thomas, how confusing https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/quantal-changes/2012-October/011348.html | 10:30 |
| Riddell | http://blogs.kde.org/2012/10/12/kubuntu-quantal-final-testers-needed | 10:46 |
| shadeslayer | hmph | 10:47 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: qapt installer prompts me to install flash but then says flashplugin-installer cannot be found | 10:47 |
| shadeslayer | so I guess it should ideally add the required sources and then proceed | 10:48 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: on an installed system? | 10:48 |
| shadeslayer | live | 10:48 |
| Riddell | mm, live won't have multiverse | 10:48 |
| shadeslayer | funny how this is the first time I actually clicked install in that prompt and find out it doesn't work | 10:48 |
| Riddell | I used to have that turned off for live images but I guess jon got it reenabled at some point | 10:49 |
| Riddell | do report a bug then poke jon :) | 10:49 |
| shadeslayer | aye aye captain | 10:49 |
| shadeslayer | Not to mention that defaults button on amarok just looks silly | 10:50 |
| Riddell | default's button? | 10:51 |
| shadeslayer | start amarok for the first time, it asks you to set your country, there's a defaults button down left | 10:51 |
| Riddell | I hate that first run dialogue | 10:52 |
| Riddell | what do you even set it to, india isn't on the list is it? | 10:52 |
| shadeslayer | nope | 10:53 |
| shadeslayer | I don't like it either, but I don't have a better idea on how to present it to the user tbh | 10:53 |
| Riddell | wait until the user uses the amazon shop | 10:54 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: should I just report that flash bug against muon? | 10:54 |
| shadeslayer | hm, qapt provides qapt-batch, so I guess that seems more appropriate | 10:55 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: btw Martin Sandsmark bought up a very valid point a couple of days ago, when we prompt the user to install mp3 codecs via the installer or the qapt-batch prompt, are we not commiting contributory infringement? | 10:59 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: not as much as canonical for distributing the mp3 codecs in the first place | 11:00 |
| Riddell | but they've had their lawyers look over it and decided it's worth the risk this way | 11:01 |
| shadeslayer | hmmm | 11:03 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: bug 1065930 | 11:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1065930 in qapt (Ubuntu) "Prompt to install stuff like flash should be disabled on the live-cd" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1065930 | 11:04 |
| Riddell | ug, there's a visual bug in ubiquity | 11:12 |
| Riddell | <small> in the strings | 11:12 |
| xnox | =( | 11:17 |
| xnox | Riddell: screenshot? | 11:17 |
| Riddell | xnox: will take some mins, I'm checking out another bug | 11:18 |
| Riddell | xnox: will take some mins, I'm checking out another bug | 11:27 |
| xnox | ok | 11:28 |
| Riddell | xnox: http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/ubiquity2.png | 11:37 |
| xnox | Riddell: I actually never saw qt interface in action. Looks nice =) | 11:38 |
| Riddell | "The authenticity of host 'bazaar.launchpad.net (91.189.95.84)' can't be established" hmm, has launchpad been hacked? | 11:39 |
| * xnox didn't see that. | 11:40 | |
| xnox | Riddell: well those strings are qt specific. and the <small> is in the debconf template. | 11:41 |
| xnox | imho the debconf template should not have formatting strings (since the whole message is wrapped) | 11:41 |
| xnox | and you should wrap small around it with attributes or in the code. | 11:41 |
| xnox | such that translators don't make mistakes. | 11:41 |
| xnox | and those two strings are qt specific =) | 11:41 |
| * xnox thought gtk string formatting slipped into generic strings | 11:42 | |
| Riddell | mm, it's that change from pkt, bother | 11:46 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:10 |
| kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1065956] package libqt4-svg 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.2 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: cannot remo... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1065956 (by Patrick Grace) | 12:23 |
| jussi | Mamarok: or markey PING | 12:43 |
| Mamarok | jussi: pong | 12:43 |
| jussi | Mamarok: PM | 12:43 |
| Mamarok | jussi: OK | 12:43 |
| stefan` | hi guys, just saw jr's post on "testers needed" | 12:47 |
| stefan` | i'm running 12.10 since a while and like it very much | 12:48 |
| stefan` | however this bug bothers me since a couple of days: | 12:48 |
| stefan` | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/1061073 | 12:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1061073 in mesa (Ubuntu) "Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 12:48 |
| apachelogger | what I like best is how you cannot turn off your touchpad while typing | 12:51 |
| apachelogger | it's hours of fun I tell ya | 12:51 |
| apachelogger | stefan`: seeing that too | 12:51 |
| apachelogger | not the slowness, but the corruption | 12:51 |
| stefan` | apachelogger: yes, the touchpad thing is great, too | 12:54 |
| stefan` | apachelogger: it seems window-moving is not slow, also kwin has 60fps when doing nothing | 12:54 |
| stefan` | apachelogger: however, "present windows" is slow, for example | 12:55 |
| apachelogger | ah, I never use that | 12:56 |
| apachelogger | oh, the touchpad thing is written in python | 13:00 |
| apachelogger | now I am surprised | 13:00 |
| Riddell | stefan`: I fear mesa isn't our area so that'll need the ubuntu x people to look into | 13:06 |
| Riddell | nasty to get that sort of bug last minute | 13:07 |
| stefan` | Riddell: do you think this effects kubuntu/kwin only | 13:07 |
| stefan` | Riddell: in other words - how high is the motivation there to fix it? | 13:08 |
| Riddell | impossible to tell without testing | 13:08 |
| Riddell | I don't have the problem so it's probably graphics card specific to some extent | 13:09 |
| apachelogger | I do wonder why it did not appear earlier though | 13:11 |
| apachelogger | afiestas: btw http://mentors.debian.net/package/ktouchpadenabler | 13:12 |
| stefan` | apachelogger: i think i first saw it after the upgrade to mesa 9.0 | 13:14 |
| apachelogger | stefan`: that was more than a month ago? | 13:16 |
| afiestas | apachelogger: :33 | 13:18 |
| stefan` | apachelogger: no - there was a recent update which was not based on a git checkout but a real upstream release | 13:19 |
| apachelogger | I wonder how that could have broken things so nicely though | 13:19 |
| stefan` | apachelogger: i don't even know where i could look to see that something is broken | 13:20 |
| stefan` | apachelogger: other than Xorg.log and my screen, that is :D | 13:20 |
| Riddell | stefan`: yeah that's why is needs a knowledgeable X person like tjaarlton | 13:42 |
| stefan` | Riddell: it seems the bug-report gets little attention, though ;) | 13:43 |
| shadeslayer | !find gtk.h | 13:47 |
| ubottu | Found: gir1.2-gtkchamplain-0.12, gtk2hs-buildtools | 13:48 |
| ScottK | Maybe I need to give my Intel netbook to mgraesslin again. | 13:59 |
| mparillo | Question on testing: I assume you are talking about the testing the release candidate? I am on a daily build and accept all updates, but w should we should grab a fresh ISO fromL http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/240/builds after they are done rebuilding? | 14:34 |
| mparillo | Right now the font is strike-through. | 14:34 |
| smartboyhw | mparillo, yes | 14:34 |
| smartboyhw | mparillo, that is called ISO testing, to test the newest ISO (aka the ISO after rebuild) | 14:35 |
| mparillo | smartboyhw: Thank you. | 14:35 |
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| ScottK | Has anyone else had trouble with quassel-client sucking up CPU when you switch between channels with a bit of backlog in Quantal? | 16:35 |
| genii-around | ScottK: A little. I'm using the git version though atm | 17:08 |
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| ScottK | Sput: ^^^ | 17:51 |
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| Noskcaj | where do i file the following bugs: release notes link wrong, encript HDD button, timezone detect says adelade but shows sydney info | 19:57 |
| ScottK | Riddell: ^^^ ubiquity, I believe. | 20:01 |
| xnox | release notes link is know and being worked on. | 20:02 |
| xnox | cannot parse the rest. | 20:02 |
| xnox | ScottK: yes, I have. I am no switching to an IRC bouncer & regular clients. | 20:03 |
| Noskcaj | xnox: it took me to the kubuntu news page | 20:03 |
| xnox | ScottK: znc is my current choice. | 20:04 |
| xnox | Noskcaj: I told you that the link is being fixed, it's a server-side redirect. | 20:04 |
| Noskcaj | xnox: ok | 20:05 |
| xnox | Noskcaj: the installer actually goes to the right page, it's the release notes that are not up on the website yet. | 20:05 |
| Noskcaj | xnox: understood, so thats not a bug | 20:06 |
| xnox | Noskcaj: yes, it is a bug. open against the website-content project. | 20:07 |
| Noskcaj | xnox: will do | 20:07 |
| xnox | Noskcaj: no. the bug is already opened and tracked. | 20:07 |
| xnox | Noskcaj: don't open duplicates =) | 20:07 |
| Noskcaj | ok | 20:07 |
| Noskcaj | what is the number? | 20:07 |
| * micahg apologizes for not getting calligra enhances properly setup in debian/rules... | 20:29 | |
| shumski | may i ask here about project neon? | 20:29 |
| ScottK | shumski: Yes. | 20:41 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: ^^^ yofel_? | 20:41 |
| shumski | ScottK: ok, just wanted to ask could it be possible to switch kdelibs to 4.10 branch? | 20:42 |
| yofel_ | shumski: looking | 21:49 |
| shumski | yofel_: ok :-). also, any particular reason kdelibs are built against gamin, since the one in the archive isn't? | 21:50 |
| yofel_ | a) gamin is in universe b) ... can't remember | 21:51 |
| yofel_ | iirc the archive package just uses inotify, so I'm not sure if it's even needed | 21:52 |
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| yofel | shumski: kdelibs switched, the import will take a while though | 21:56 |
| shumski | yofel: cool, tnx ;-). about gamin - if kdelibs is built against it, then the modules also are 'hardcoded' with it | 21:58 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: what section this can belong to https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/base/nepomuk-metadata-extractor | 22:04 |
| shumski | phoenix_firebrd: that would also require some aditional packages (for the extractors to work) | 22:09 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shumski: like? | 22:09 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shumski: so what section can it belong to? | 22:10 |
| shumski | phoenix_firebrd: like python plugins - musicbrainz, imdb and tvdb one | 22:10 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shumski: I have added those in the control file | 22:11 |
| yofel | phoenix_firebrd: "kde" in general I would say, I don't think anything else uses nepomuk | 22:11 |
| shumski | phoenix_firebrd: i mean, it builds without them, but it's useless if one doesn't have them | 22:11 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: i tried KDE, failed, casesensitive? | 22:12 |
| yofel | should be 'kde' casesensitive | 22:12 |
| yofel | IIRC | 22:12 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: ok i will try that | 22:12 |
| yofel | shumski: the only reference I find on inotify versus FAM is the note in cmakelists.txt that inotify doesn't support NFS | 22:13 |
| yofel | but I guess nobody really uses that here | 22:13 |
| shumski | yofel: i would guess. gamin is dropped almost everywhere (i mean on a distro packaging level) | 22:16 |
| * yofel drops it | 22:16 | |
| shumski | :-) | 22:17 |
| * yofel makes a note to add the inotify limit setting from the archive to neon as well | 22:17 | |
| shumski | since i already bugging you, are XDG_DATA_HOME and XDG_CONFIG_HOME exportet in project-neon session? so akonadi and qt don't confict wth the 'official' ones? didn't check in a while, and last time i did, they whern't | 22:21 |
| yofel | shumski: yes, see http://paste.kde.org/567776/ line 43ff | 22:24 |
| shumski | yofel: great! had some troubles in the past (oxygen), so i'm asking is it safe to fire up regular kubuntu session. should be then :-) | 22:26 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: kde as section works | 22:27 |
| shumski | phoenix_firebrd: so you are packaging this officialy, or? :-) | 22:29 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shumski: no :) just learning | 22:29 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shumski: officially soon :D | 22:30 |
| shumski | phoenix_firebrd: ok :-) | 22:30 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shumski: yofel is my mentor | 22:30 |
| shumski | phoenix_firebrd: then i'm wondering about what you said that you have added plugins to control file? what did you mean with that? to depends? you've packaged them also? | 22:31 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shumski: Ya I have added that as depends | 22:32 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shumski: the plugins are in ubuntu repos | 22:33 |
| shumski | phoenix_firebrd: so you're using the metadataexrtactor? had some massive mem leaks with it | 22:33 |
| shumski | like 43 instances of it loaded on login :D | 22:34 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shumski: :) | 22:34 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shumski: no mem , afaik | 22:34 |
| shumski | some 800MB consumed. earlier it worked fine | 22:34 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shumski: works good, you need bangarang from master for the cover to be displayed properly | 22:35 |
| shumski | phoenix_firebrd: seen some commits in the last days, maybe that's resolved. | 22:35 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shumski: is it? here it seeks to be file, but virtuso takes a lot of cpu while bangarang gets the cover | 22:36 |
| shumski | phoenix_firebrd: yeah bangarang's great, altough still doesn't cut it for me with videos | 22:36 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shumski: the last commit is a fix to some text ascii problem | 22:36 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shumski: we need some kio for movie | 22:37 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shumski: tvnamer is good | 22:37 |
| shumski | phoenix_firebrd: trueg's tvshow works ok | 22:37 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shumski: ok? | 22:37 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shumski: you want something like the xbmc's? | 22:38 |
| shumski | phoenix_firebrd: well, i no longer have that kind of collection i used to have, so don't need something like that | 22:38 |
| phoenix_firebrd | oh, no movies? | 22:39 |
| shumski | phoenix_firebrd: could be my issue's are cause i use the the newindexer branch. yeah, not that much movies | 22:43 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shumski: nepomuk developer? | 22:44 |
| shumski | phoenix_firebrd: who? me? noooo | 22:44 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shumski: ok | 22:44 |
| shumski | phoenix_firebrd: just wanted to try cause we gonna get rid off strigi :-) | 22:46 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shumski: I was not aware of that, really? that would be great. how is the new one? | 22:47 |
| shumski | phoenix_firebrd: currently, cpu usage is a little higher that the old one, but IO is noticabely better | 22:48 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shumski: stablility? | 22:49 |
| shumski | phoenix_firebrd: ok, for a branch. still isn't merged to master. browse september and october nepomuk ML archives for details | 22:52 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shumski: ok | 22:53 |
| shumski | phoenix_firebrd: indexing is done in 2 stages. 1st collects the mimetype info, and runs untils it scans everything, and the 2nd one runs when the system's on idle. that one is indexing in more detail | 22:57 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shumski: in the new one? | 23:00 |
| shumski | phoenix_firebrd: yes, in the new 'strigiless' fileindexer | 23:01 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shumski: wow, thats cool, this was everyones wish | 23:01 |
| shumski | phoenix_firebrd: :-) yup. but better ask vHanda about details. there are still some things to resolve, but hopefully we're gonna have strigi depracated with 4.10 | 23:03 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shumski: ya, finally, smooth after startup :) | 23:05 |
| shumski | phoenix_firebrd: oh, i still have virtuoso gonne wild with it on startup. but there's still quite some time until the final release | 23:07 |
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| phoenix_firebrd | shumski: ya. I am having a build issue in launchapad, says "Missing build dependencies: kde4-config" should i add dependency ppa to my ppa? | 23:11 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: do i have to add a dependency ppa for KDE4 and kde4-config ? | 23:18 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: got it | 23:27 |
| mparillo | If you have some success testing the ISO, but not for one of the official test cases (in my case as a VMWare guest a Win7 host), is it still worth adding your success to http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/240/builds/25638/testcases | 23:36 |
| mparillo | Or only open launchpad bugs on failure? | 23:36 |
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