[00:52] Did the Ubuntu webadmins agree to update http://www.kubuntu.org/feature-tour/ [00:52] It looks like a place holder page to me. [01:24] mparillo: hum, spooky [01:26] Please start testing. [01:26] Our spooky day is Halloween,the last day of October, right before the Solemnity of All Saints, but seriously, I wondered if that was a prep step for them to re-do the page. === micahg_ is now known as micahg [10:12] hmph, ktorrent with precise is fairly annoying [10:12] clicking on stop makes ktorrent hang forever >.> [10:13] Will probably hunt down a patch and SRU later on [10:13] shadeslayer: time to upgrade to quantal! [10:13] we're just needing some testers right about now [10:13] Riddell: the X stack on quantal does not agree with me [10:13] which is why I rolled back to precise [10:13] * shadeslayer can test in a kvm [10:13] with vncviewer [10:14] :P [10:18] shadeslayer: hum that's quite worrying, what about you does it not agree with? [10:30] gosh there's a second jonathan thomas, how confusing https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/quantal-changes/2012-October/011348.html [10:46] http://blogs.kde.org/2012/10/12/kubuntu-quantal-final-testers-needed [10:47] hmph [10:47] Riddell: qapt installer prompts me to install flash but then says flashplugin-installer cannot be found [10:48] so I guess it should ideally add the required sources and then proceed [10:48] shadeslayer: on an installed system? [10:48] live [10:48] mm, live won't have multiverse [10:48] funny how this is the first time I actually clicked install in that prompt and find out it doesn't work [10:49] I used to have that turned off for live images but I guess jon got it reenabled at some point [10:49] do report a bug then poke jon :) [10:49] aye aye captain [10:50] Not to mention that defaults button on amarok just looks silly [10:51] default's button? [10:51] start amarok for the first time, it asks you to set your country, there's a defaults button down left [10:52] I hate that first run dialogue [10:52] what do you even set it to, india isn't on the list is it? [10:53] nope [10:53] I don't like it either, but I don't have a better idea on how to present it to the user tbh [10:54] wait until the user uses the amazon shop [10:54] Riddell: should I just report that flash bug against muon? [10:55] hm, qapt provides qapt-batch, so I guess that seems more appropriate [10:59] Riddell: btw Martin Sandsmark bought up a very valid point a couple of days ago, when we prompt the user to install mp3 codecs via the installer or the qapt-batch prompt, are we not commiting contributory infringement? [11:00] shadeslayer: not as much as canonical for distributing the mp3 codecs in the first place [11:01] but they've had their lawyers look over it and decided it's worth the risk this way [11:03] hmmm [11:04] Riddell: bug 1065930 [11:04] Launchpad bug 1065930 in qapt (Ubuntu) "Prompt to install stuff like flash should be disabled on the live-cd" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1065930 [11:12] ug, there's a visual bug in ubiquity [11:12] in the strings [11:17] =( [11:17] Riddell: screenshot? [11:18] xnox: will take some mins, I'm checking out another bug [11:27] xnox: will take some mins, I'm checking out another bug [11:28] ok [11:37] xnox: http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/ubiquity2.png [11:38] Riddell: I actually never saw qt interface in action. Looks nice =) [11:39] "The authenticity of host 'bazaar.launchpad.net (91.189.95.84)' can't be established" hmm, has launchpad been hacked? [11:40] * xnox didn't see that. [11:41] Riddell: well those strings are qt specific. and the is in the debconf template. [11:41] imho the debconf template should not have formatting strings (since the whole message is wrapped) [11:41] and you should wrap small around it with attributes or in the code. [11:41] such that translators don't make mistakes. [11:41] and those two strings are qt specific =) [11:42] * xnox thought gtk string formatting slipped into generic strings [11:46] mm, it's that change from pkt, bother [12:10] Hiyas all [12:23] ::qt-bugs:: [1065956] package libqt4-svg 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.2 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: cannot remo... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1065956 (by Patrick Grace) [12:43] Mamarok: or markey PING [12:43] jussi: pong [12:43] Mamarok: PM [12:43] jussi: OK [12:47] hi guys, just saw jr's post on "testers needed" [12:48] i'm running 12.10 since a while and like it very much [12:48] however this bug bothers me since a couple of days: [12:48] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/1061073 [12:48] Launchpad bug 1061073 in mesa (Ubuntu) "Desktop effects are slow and desktop corruption using mesa 9" [Undecided,Incomplete] [12:51] what I like best is how you cannot turn off your touchpad while typing [12:51] it's hours of fun I tell ya [12:51] stefan`: seeing that too [12:51] not the slowness, but the corruption [12:54] apachelogger: yes, the touchpad thing is great, too [12:54] apachelogger: it seems window-moving is not slow, also kwin has 60fps when doing nothing [12:55] apachelogger: however, "present windows" is slow, for example [12:56] ah, I never use that [13:00] oh, the touchpad thing is written in python [13:00] now I am surprised [13:06] stefan`: I fear mesa isn't our area so that'll need the ubuntu x people to look into [13:07] nasty to get that sort of bug last minute [13:07] Riddell: do you think this effects kubuntu/kwin only [13:08] Riddell: in other words - how high is the motivation there to fix it? [13:08] impossible to tell without testing [13:09] I don't have the problem so it's probably graphics card specific to some extent [13:11] I do wonder why it did not appear earlier though [13:12] afiestas: btw http://mentors.debian.net/package/ktouchpadenabler [13:14] apachelogger: i think i first saw it after the upgrade to mesa 9.0 [13:16] stefan`: that was more than a month ago? [13:18] apachelogger: :33 [13:19] apachelogger: no - there was a recent update which was not based on a git checkout but a real upstream release [13:19] I wonder how that could have broken things so nicely though [13:20] apachelogger: i don't even know where i could look to see that something is broken [13:20] apachelogger: other than Xorg.log and my screen, that is :D [13:42] stefan`: yeah that's why is needs a knowledgeable X person like tjaarlton [13:43] Riddell: it seems the bug-report gets little attention, though ;) [13:47] !find gtk.h [13:48] Found: gir1.2-gtkchamplain-0.12, gtk2hs-buildtools [13:59] Maybe I need to give my Intel netbook to mgraesslin again. [14:34] Question on testing: I assume you are talking about the testing the release candidate? I am on a daily build and accept all updates, but w should we should grab a fresh ISO fromL http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/240/builds after they are done rebuilding? [14:34] Right now the font is strike-through. [14:34] mparillo, yes [14:35] mparillo, that is called ISO testing, to test the newest ISO (aka the ISO after rebuild) [14:35] smartboyhw: Thank you. === micahg_ is now known as micahg === Mamarok is now known as Guest59720 === micahg_ is now known as micahg === Guest59720 is now known as Mamarok [16:35] Has anyone else had trouble with quassel-client sucking up CPU when you switch between channels with a bit of backlog in Quantal? [17:08] ScottK: A little. I'm using the git version though atm === phoenix_firebrd is now known as phoenix_firebrd_ [17:51] Sput: ^^^ === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter [19:57] where do i file the following bugs: release notes link wrong, encript HDD button, timezone detect says adelade but shows sydney info [20:01] Riddell: ^^^ ubiquity, I believe. [20:02] release notes link is know and being worked on. [20:02] cannot parse the rest. [20:03] ScottK: yes, I have. I am no switching to an IRC bouncer & regular clients. [20:03] xnox: it took me to the kubuntu news page [20:04] ScottK: znc is my current choice. [20:04] Noskcaj: I told you that the link is being fixed, it's a server-side redirect. [20:05] xnox: ok [20:05] Noskcaj: the installer actually goes to the right page, it's the release notes that are not up on the website yet. [20:06] xnox: understood, so thats not a bug [20:07] Noskcaj: yes, it is a bug. open against the website-content project. [20:07] xnox: will do [20:07] Noskcaj: no. the bug is already opened and tracked. [20:07] Noskcaj: don't open duplicates =) [20:07] ok [20:07] what is the number? [20:29] * micahg apologizes for not getting calligra enhances properly setup in debian/rules... [20:29] may i ask here about project neon? [20:41] shumski: Yes. [20:41] shadeslayer: ^^^ yofel_? [20:42] ScottK: ok, just wanted to ask could it be possible to switch kdelibs to 4.10 branch? [21:49] shumski: looking [21:50] yofel_: ok :-). also, any particular reason kdelibs are built against gamin, since the one in the archive isn't? [21:51] a) gamin is in universe b) ... can't remember [21:52] iirc the archive package just uses inotify, so I'm not sure if it's even needed === yofel_ is now known as yofel [21:56] shumski: kdelibs switched, the import will take a while though [21:58] yofel: cool, tnx ;-). about gamin - if kdelibs is built against it, then the modules also are 'hardcoded' with it [22:04] yofel: what section this can belong to https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/base/nepomuk-metadata-extractor [22:09] phoenix_firebrd: that would also require some aditional packages (for the extractors to work) [22:09] shumski: like? [22:10] shumski: so what section can it belong to? [22:10] phoenix_firebrd: like python plugins - musicbrainz, imdb and tvdb one [22:11] shumski: I have added those in the control file [22:11] phoenix_firebrd: "kde" in general I would say, I don't think anything else uses nepomuk [22:11] phoenix_firebrd: i mean, it builds without them, but it's useless if one doesn't have them [22:12] yofel: i tried KDE, failed, casesensitive? [22:12] should be 'kde' casesensitive [22:12] IIRC [22:12] yofel: ok i will try that [22:13] shumski: the only reference I find on inotify versus FAM is the note in cmakelists.txt that inotify doesn't support NFS [22:13] but I guess nobody really uses that here [22:16] yofel: i would guess. gamin is dropped almost everywhere (i mean on a distro packaging level) [22:16] * yofel drops it [22:17] :-) [22:17] * yofel makes a note to add the inotify limit setting from the archive to neon as well [22:21] since i already bugging you, are XDG_DATA_HOME and XDG_CONFIG_HOME exportet in project-neon session? so akonadi and qt don't confict wth the 'official' ones? didn't check in a while, and last time i did, they whern't [22:24] shumski: yes, see http://paste.kde.org/567776/ line 43ff [22:26] yofel: great! had some troubles in the past (oxygen), so i'm asking is it safe to fire up regular kubuntu session. should be then :-) [22:27] yofel: kde as section works [22:29] phoenix_firebrd: so you are packaging this officialy, or? :-) [22:29] shumski: no :) just learning [22:30] shumski: officially soon :D [22:30] phoenix_firebrd: ok :-) [22:30] shumski: yofel is my mentor [22:31] phoenix_firebrd: then i'm wondering about what you said that you have added plugins to control file? what did you mean with that? to depends? you've packaged them also? [22:32] shumski: Ya I have added that as depends [22:33] shumski: the plugins are in ubuntu repos [22:33] phoenix_firebrd: so you're using the metadataexrtactor? had some massive mem leaks with it [22:34] like 43 instances of it loaded on login :D [22:34] shumski: :) [22:34] shumski: no mem , afaik [22:34] some 800MB consumed. earlier it worked fine [22:35] shumski: works good, you need bangarang from master for the cover to be displayed properly [22:35] phoenix_firebrd: seen some commits in the last days, maybe that's resolved. [22:36] shumski: is it? here it seeks to be file, but virtuso takes a lot of cpu while bangarang gets the cover [22:36] phoenix_firebrd: yeah bangarang's great, altough still doesn't cut it for me with videos [22:36] shumski: the last commit is a fix to some text ascii problem [22:37] shumski: we need some kio for movie [22:37] shumski: tvnamer is good [22:37] phoenix_firebrd: trueg's tvshow works ok [22:37] shumski: ok? [22:38] shumski: you want something like the xbmc's? [22:38] phoenix_firebrd: well, i no longer have that kind of collection i used to have, so don't need something like that [22:39] oh, no movies? [22:43] phoenix_firebrd: could be my issue's are cause i use the the newindexer branch. yeah, not that much movies [22:44] shumski: nepomuk developer? [22:44] phoenix_firebrd: who? me? noooo [22:44] shumski: ok [22:46] phoenix_firebrd: just wanted to try cause we gonna get rid off strigi :-) [22:47] shumski: I was not aware of that, really? that would be great. how is the new one? [22:48] phoenix_firebrd: currently, cpu usage is a little higher that the old one, but IO is noticabely better [22:49] shumski: stablility? [22:52] phoenix_firebrd: ok, for a branch. still isn't merged to master. browse september and october nepomuk ML archives for details [22:53] shumski: ok [22:57] phoenix_firebrd: indexing is done in 2 stages. 1st collects the mimetype info, and runs untils it scans everything, and the 2nd one runs when the system's on idle. that one is indexing in more detail [23:00] shumski: in the new one? [23:01] phoenix_firebrd: yes, in the new 'strigiless' fileindexer [23:01] shumski: wow, thats cool, this was everyones wish [23:03] phoenix_firebrd: :-) yup. but better ask vHanda about details. there are still some things to resolve, but hopefully we're gonna have strigi depracated with 4.10 [23:05] shumski: ya, finally, smooth after startup :) [23:07] phoenix_firebrd: oh, i still have virtuoso gonne wild with it on startup. but there's still quite some time until the final release === shumski is now known as shumski_away [23:11] shumski: ya. I am having a build issue in launchapad, says "Missing build dependencies: kde4-config" should i add dependency ppa to my ppa? [23:18] yofel: do i have to add a dependency ppa for KDE4 and kde4-config ? [23:27] yofel: got it [23:36] If you have some success testing the ISO, but not for one of the official test cases (in my case as a VMWare guest a Win7 host), is it still worth adding your success to http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/240/builds/25638/testcases [23:36] Or only open launchpad bugs on failure?