[00:28] AaronCampbell: try some other screen shot apps perhaps. It could be some quirk with how the drivers are rendering [00:28] dr_willis: I tried lookit as well...same issue [00:29] AaronCampbell: may want to check the forums or askubuntu.com since i dont use ati any more. [00:29] AaronCampbell: i seem to recall someone else asking this.. but it was months ago. [00:31] AaronCampbell: a few potential hits -> http://askubuntu.com/search?q=fglrx+black+screenshot [00:35] gotta love looking around askubuntu.com found a neat list of screenshot apps. many ive never heard of befor. http://askubuntu.com/questions/6558/what-screenshot-tools-are-available [00:35] bbl [01:37] Hey guys I'm running 12.10 and I'm having issues with my graphics driver. I have a Samsung RF 711 laptop which has an integrated Intel graphics AND an nVidia Geforce GT 540M. I'd like to get the system to use the nvidia instead of the intel. I follow http://www.howopensource.com/2012/10/install-nvidia-geforce-driver-in-ubuntu-12-10-12-04-using-ppa/ and once I reboot and run the nvidia settigns it says it can't configure my x [01:37] org === invisibleheero is now known as afallenhope [01:46] What is the best one near SC? [01:46] LoCo team [01:46] I mean [01:47] South Carolina, United States [01:47] !loco [01:47] Information on Ubuntu Local Community Teams is at http://loco.ubuntu.com/ [01:47] ok [02:19] hey how do I get the 32 libs installed? [02:23] !ia32 [02:23] !32bit [02:23] Hey guys, how do I install Beta 2 on a USb flash drive [02:24] POLP, Try unetbootin [02:24] ISO Install I assume [02:24] Which setting do I choose? Daily Live? [02:24] setting? [02:25] you mean download? [02:25] POLP: you can just download the iso and then select it in the diskimage section [02:26] Weird :S It doesn't work. Let me try it again :) thank you [02:55] hi. I added more info to the os-prober bug. forgot to add, os-prober version is 1.56ubuntu1, I don't know how to edit my comments [03:07] I tried unebootin, but it didn't work. Upon restarting, it says that it can't find the boot img [03:07] Bizarre :S [03:08] POLP, I'd google the exact error msg to find a solution [03:08] Will do [04:48] Hey guys I'm having nothing but issues with 12.10 is there a way of downgrading my installation? [04:48] without having to reinstall [04:48] no [04:48] but thanks for asking [04:48] !downgrade [04:48] Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported and may break your system. [04:48] it's best to stick with it [04:49] but it gives me nothing but issues [04:49] Unexpected Internal Error [04:49] then stick with LTS [04:49] then I couldn't boot so I uninstalled e ia32-libs-multiarch and I booted [04:49] but now eveything crashes [04:51] maybe I should have stuck with Fedora lol [04:52] yeah, that's the thing to do [04:52] * bjsnider rolls eyes [04:53] I'm just thinking it would be the best thing for me right now considering [04:53] how do I remove the i386 repos from apt? [04:54] ? [04:54] I don't know why or how but my system stoppped working [04:55] so I uninstalled ia32-libs-multiarch and then I was able to get back into m desktop [04:55] but not without a bunch of error [04:56] running pre-release OS should expect a ton of problems [04:56] yeah [04:56] which means I should kill my collegue for giving me a beta instead of the TLs [04:57] and random fixes from where? often make things worse [04:57] I'll just reinstall [04:58] just confused is all mate [04:58] sure [04:59] the RC is due out some time today, why not wait for that [04:59] still won't fix my issues now though lol [05:00] you have no way of knowing that [05:00] sounds like some of your issues were self-inflicted ones [05:00] That's true I'm not trying to be arrogant and I apologize I'm just frustrated that my system keeps freaking [05:01] frustration is natural when things dont go a s expected [05:01] this is true [05:02] sometimes I just wish there was a magical "reset to factory" button that's not going into the process of re-installing [05:02] in my software sources I have amd64 and i386 I'm just confused as to why i386 got added [05:04] afallenhope: multiarch [05:05] micahg how do I remove it? [05:05] afallenhope: why would you want to? it's meant to be there [05:06] oh [05:06] well it broke when I had it installed [05:06] it allows you to run 32 bit only programs on a 64 bit system [05:06] I did a sudo apt-get purge ia32-libs-multiarch and then I was able to boot into my desktop [05:07] there might be a bug there, idk [05:09] I just reinstalled the ia32-libs-multiarch to see if I'll get the same error [05:09] nope [05:09] neat [05:10] Anyway, as mentioned previously I apologize for my ignorance and arrogance in the channel as I was frustrated. I feel I might have got off the wrong foot. So with that said I wish you all a good day === micahg_ is now known as micahg [08:29] whats the difference between mac and pc cd? [09:53] erle-, http://askubuntu.com/questions/37999/what-is-different-about-the-mac-iso-image/612 [10:03] still no release candidate? [10:03] popey, thanks a lot [10:17] Hm, my attempts to upgrade to quantal so far have seen the release-upgrader crash, and I've had to complete the upgrade with aptitude :-/ [10:21] bug 930004 [10:21] Launchpad bug 930004 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "update-manager assert failure: python: ../../src/xcb_io.c:273: poll_for_event: Assertion `!xcb_xlib_threads_sequence_lost' failed." [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/930004 === maxb_ is now known as Guest72551 [10:49] hey guys, is the release day confirmed yet? [10:49] thanks [11:26] ActionParsnip: release day is not confirmed until actual release :) [11:31] are the packages somehow in flux or why I can not install for example vlc, xubuntu-desktop lm-sensors etc. [11:31] and pidgin-otr [11:34] IdleOne; Is it out yet? =P [11:35] IdleOne: cheers [11:36] BrokenThumb: Not yet but thank you for delaying it another hour by asking [11:36] ;-) [11:36] =D [11:36] What was it again, #ubuntu-release-party ? [11:37] yeah, not open yet [11:38] Ugh, invite only.. [11:38] ...so it's a private pasty? ;-) [11:38] party* [11:39] BrokenThumb: once you are identified you can walk in [11:42] BrokenThumb: it's a private pastry [11:42] more yummy that way [11:43] ActionParsnip: you were able to join? [11:55] IdleOne: yeah I'm in [12:11] Hiyas all [12:12] BluesKaj o/ [12:13] hey BrokenThumb [12:13] * BrokenThumb is MrChrisDruif if you didn't know already [12:14] ok , I'll bite , how did you nreak your thumb , Chris ? [12:14] break [12:15] War back in March, while snowboarding. Since then it has completely recovered but sometimes use the name when I can't use my ZNC account. [12:16] Was* [12:17] ok you on trekweb ? [12:18] my trekweb znc acct is down , probly no fix til sunday [12:30] BluesKaj; Me to, I thought they said end of the, hopefully Saturday morning. [12:30] yup [12:33] shouldn't do-release-upgrade -d work currently in kubuntu 12.04? says "No new release found" here [12:34] Trewas: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/QuantalUpgrades/Kubuntu [12:35] mid-range prediction of fix is end of day tomorrow or early saturday [12:35] That was yesterday [12:36] jbicha: that too runs do-release-upgrade -d at step 5 [12:36] BrokenThumb: was that about d-r-u? [12:37] Trewas; no, trekweb. For BluesKaj [12:37] I guess I should have read a couple of previous lines :) [12:39] * BluesKaj checks trekweb [12:40] jbicha: nm, the previous steps did have some effect, it currently refuses to upgrade from lts to anything even with -d [12:40] +by default [12:48] which makes sense [12:49] IdleOne; not with "do-release-upgrade -d" I think [12:49] r/with/for [12:55] I think your wrong. do-release-upgrade -d searches for new dev releases, not any new release no matter what I am running. so if you are running LTS and there is a LTS in dev cycle then it will work [12:55] you're* [12:56] Ah, is that the idea behind it. Also makes sense. [12:56] But thinking it would look how the first in line dev release. [12:56] Anyways, I'm off. [12:57] during 12.04 LTS dev cycle we had very few if any users asking why -d didn't work [12:57] many where still on 10.04 so it just worked [13:00] those who were on 11.10 didn't have the issue of LTS releases only [13:01] ok, I am done talking about this and thinking about it :) [13:59] Does anyone know the ETA on the official release [13:59] !schedual [13:59] hmm [13:59] !schedule [13:59] A schedule of Quantal Quetzal (12.10) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule [14:12] how long till the release candidate is out ? [14:13] !schedule [14:13] A schedule of Quantal Quetzal (12.10) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule [14:25] so the release candidate should have been out yesterday ? [14:26] ccmonster: i don't think there will be a RC iso, any way that is the "status" of the ubuntu 12.10 release atm [14:42] yeah , a rc wouldn't be released less then a week before the official one , the daily build might be a good method to upgrade , ccmonster [14:48] BluesKaj: does 12.10 still have many bugs for daily usage? [14:50] kroson, I'm not sure about gnome/unity , but KDE is quite stable atm [14:52] kroson, altho i haven't seen many complaints about unity lately === micahg_ is now known as micahg [15:17] BluesKaj: I'm also pretty happy and stable with my KDE. Unity is still giving my graphics card grief currently. [15:18] genii-around, hey , is the graphics an ati ? [15:19] BluesKaj: Nvidia GeForce 9300m on the big laptop, on the netbook is problemmatic Intel GMA stuff [15:22] ok genii-around I noticed that the nvidia-current driver , 304.51, I was using last week , has regressed back to the 304.43 , a few days ago. [15:23] this for a 8400GS [15:24] but I haven't seen any commentary about it here [15:29] Last I tried ( few days ago ) was still some ABI problem [15:45] How can I see/change the default fonts in unity on 12.10? I was told about 'myunity' but I could not locate that package in ubuntu software center and the PPA did not work. [15:45] IdleOne: when I did apt-get update, the PPA's data was not retreivable, in addition, it says the PPA is only for older ubuntu dists. [15:45] the myunity site says that I am supposed to find it in ubuntu software center [15:45] but I am unable to locate it [15:46] fnord`: indeed if you are running 12.10 this is the proper place. check the PPA and make certain they have a Quantal deb [15:46] I was able to get a tar.gz of the software, but if you can understand I don't really want to use that if I don't have to. [15:46] IdleOne: the PPA specifically says it doesn't [15:46] I tried it out of desperation. [15:46] then it won't work on 12.10 [15:46] anyway I'm not really concerned about the PPA [15:46] fnord`: you could try building it yourself [15:47] I know I can, I'd just rather not [15:47] I am only concerned with solving my problem "How do I change the font" [15:47] let me check and see [15:47] thanks :) [15:47] err, not done installing yet, few more minutes [15:48] you're installing myunity? [15:48] or 12.10 [15:48] no installing Unity in testdrive [15:48] oh awesome [15:48] thanks for looking [15:48] that is Ubuntu 12.10 in testdrive [15:48] I have checked in the settings, compizconfig-settings-manager, and also listed the gsettings schemas and not found what I'm looking for yet. [15:49] try opening dash and typing fonts [15:49] nothing [15:49] give me a few [15:49] cool, thanks. [15:51] oh wait [15:51] I've found myunity [15:51] for some reason when I search myunity in my local ubuntu software center, it's not found [15:51] but using the web [15:51] https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/myunity/ ta da [15:52] There isn’t a software package called “myunity” in your current software sources [15:52] well, this is a bust Ubuntu 12.10 in testdrive is just a purple background [15:52] that's what happens when I try to install ti, though. [15:52] :( [15:52] what's testdrive? [15:53] it is a virtualization app [15:53] qemu basically [15:53] i fear I may have to compile myunity [15:53] oh well, here it goes. [15:53] shouldn't take long [15:55] ah there we go === micahg_ is now known as micahg [15:58] i wonder if I am missing software sources? [15:58] a problem with sources.list or something in ubuntu software center? [15:58] I never use ubuntu software center, always just use apt-cache search and apt-get install... [15:58] I wish I could do the same for this. [15:59] I can't seem to find where you change font size either [15:59] see if you can get this installed :) [15:59] https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/myunity/ [15:59] fnord`: why can't you use apt-cache search ? [16:00] IdleOne: because the myunity site on launchpad says I need to use ubuntu software center, and it doesn't show up when I do apt-cache search myunity? [16:00] I thought ubuntu software center was just a front-end for apt. [16:00] http://pastie.org/5044805 [16:00] am I missing anything? [16:01] it is, but it will only show you what it has available, even if you use apt-cache search with the PPA it won't show you the package because the PPA does not list one for quantal [16:01] hm, maybe I need to uncomment 'partner' repos [16:01] !info myunity precise [16:01] myunity (source: myunity): Unity configurator. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.3-0ubuntu1 (precise), package size 529 kB, installed size 1125 kB [16:02] !info myunity quantal [16:02] Package myunity does not exist in quantal [16:02] as I feared :( [16:02] !find myunity [16:02] myunity was deleted from quantal since it's not compatible with unity 6.x [16:02] any reason? [16:02] File myunity found in app-install-data [16:02] drat! [16:02] so the bot is wrong [16:02] File myunity found in app-install-data [16:02] no, the bot is right [16:02] micahg: you don't happen to know where the font is set? I'm willing to use a hex editor if I have to :) [16:03] ah, the bot is wrong about the file :) [16:03] fnord`: nope, sorry [16:04] fnord`: you're only solution appears to be to compile it and then try to work out the bugs, or wait for the myunity devs to do it. [16:04] or I could read myunity source and see how it gets the font! [16:04] eureka [16:04] heh [16:09] - Bug #1009590: Ubuntu 12.10 not supported version - fixed [16:10] from the changelog :) [16:10] Launchpad bug 1009590 in MyUnity "Ubuntu 12.10 not supported version" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1009590 [16:10] Nice bot :) [16:12] fnord`: try gnome-tweak-tool [16:19] jbicha: works, thanks! [16:25] ok this is embarrassing, how do I run gnome-tweak-tool. I installed it but dash can't find it [16:27] IdleOne, Its called the tweak-tool now [16:27] in the menu [16:28] dash still doesn't find it [16:28] I can run it from terminal with gnome-tweak-tool though [16:28] what about alt f2 [16:30] hi! [16:31] bazhang: weird, if I click on the dash it doesn't find tweak, but if I do alt-f2 it does [16:31] i upgraded to ubuntu 12.10 beta2 and have some issues. Can't open many of the applications neither using synapse, neither using the dash. For example, ubuntu tweak, nautilus... Someone else had this issue? [16:40] well, gnome-tweak-tool seems to be suboptimal, but i've found dconf [16:40] only problem is I can't see a way to search through the directory in dconf-editor [16:41] so I'm gonna write a bash script [16:41] i did find dconf by stracing gnome-tweak-tool, so thanks for that :) [16:57] derp, C-f works in dconf-editor [16:59] org.gnome.desktop.interface.* [17:00] fnord`: probably easy to miss, the menu name is the same as the window title (didn't realize that option existed until you just mentioned it) [17:00] oh geez, that's a menu! [17:01] well, apparently grub was fixed. anyway, for the record: what failed in os-prober is that the script tried to find a folder called bootmgr (function in item_in_dir in /usr/share/os-prober/common.sh), but when grub-mount to mounts the partition, the script doesn't find that folder. it does when mounted using mount === phoenix_firebrd is now known as phoenix_firebrd_ [17:39] What's the simplest music player available? I don't want those music managers like clementine or anything. I'm just looking for the linux equivalent of Winamp. [17:42] KaiserBun: Audacious is what you are searching for ;) [17:44] MCR1: Thank you :) [17:44] mplayer :) [17:45] Even audacious can be considered as music manager - and WinAmp is one, too :) [17:45] It can, but it's less iTunesy :) [17:46] vlc works to and does not get much in the way with library management [17:50] is there an quantal release candidate iso with the alternate installer anywhere? [17:50] there is no alternate installer more [17:50] :( [17:50] so just one iso now? [17:51] daily and netinst [17:52] so netinst would be the only way to do an alternate install? [17:54] there isn't much reason for it anymore === glebihan_ is now known as glebihan [17:54] the server iso should also still exist [17:55] can the server refrain from installing server stuff? [17:55] iso, that is [17:56] don't know, but I doubt it installs very much in the first place [17:57] what do you need the alternate for? [17:57] i was going to use the alternate to install without formatting any partitions, and to mount root with noatime without a post-install tweak [17:57] i'm installing to CF [17:57] no formating should work with desktop installer too [17:58] i was going to format as ext4 with no journal ahead of time [17:58] though I haven't used it in ages, was also always using alternate, but did nothing special with it [17:59] so this is what i would use? http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [18:00] most likely [18:00] given the rational for dropping the only thing you can't do is install on raid [18:00] is there any way i can boot it from an SD card without burning it? [18:00] which can be done enabled post install anyway [18:00] put it on an usb [18:01] i don't have a spare usb stick, only sd [18:01] is the "hd-media install" still possible? [18:01] hello [18:01] pepee: that always required the alternate before [18:01] pepee: don't know what exatly that is but very likely it can be done with netinst [18:01] i am testing 12.10 beta, and having problem with unity launcher's autohide feature, is it working for you guys? [18:02] once i set it to auto-hide, it hides and doesn't come back again [18:02] jtaylor: can netinst work from an iso instead of from the 'net? [18:02] DonkeyHotei: can you bios boot from sd? [18:02] jtaylor: i haven't tried, but i'm reasonably sure i can [18:03] then try it [18:03] how? [18:03] it's an iso [18:03] I think nowadays you can just dd it onto it, though using usb-disk-creator should work too [18:04] but who hasn't got a usb stick o_O [18:05] looks like the iso won't fit on a cd anyway [18:05] yes that limit has been dropped [18:06] why would one want to use a cd when you can buy usb sticks for the same price [18:06] if that limit is dropped, why not include both the live installer and the alternate on the same iso, like was done ages ago? [18:06] maybe its still the case? [18:07] didn't read every email about it [18:07] what is? [18:07] but maybe also not, because two ways to install is two ways that need testing [18:09] ok [18:09] but if the cd-size limit is dropped, what happens to ship-it cd's? [18:10] those have been canceled a long time ago [18:10] ship-it doesn't exist anymore? [18:10] yes [18:10] it exists? [18:12] They only ship to LoCo teams [18:12] ah, ok [18:13] so what happens to the LoCo discs without the size limit? [18:13] I guess we'll find out. [18:14] if they end up shipping dvd's instead of cd's, why not make a combined ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu/lubuntu/server dvd iso? [18:15] because of the bandwidth, I suppose [18:16] pepee: for the discs shipped to LoCo's? [18:17] sorry, I thought you were talking about the iso images [18:17] well, they tend to be one and the same [18:17] DonkeyHotei, you could try testing the discs in a VM [18:18] the daily-live? i'm downloading it atm to do just that [18:19] they are going to be shipping cd's [18:19] err dvds [18:20] IdleOne: then the combined one might be prudent [18:20] it would be a smarter use of space [18:21] exactly [18:21] will see what they send [18:21] i'm guessing they'll send the 753MiB iso on dvd [18:23] btw I get this error when running programs from the console (konsole): Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.conf", line 9: reading configurations from ~/.fonts.conf is deprecated. [18:24] is there a launchpad bug about it? [18:29] there are some bug reports that contain that exact line [18:29] ugh, google is getting worse [18:34] found this: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1157957#p1157957 [18:35] brb [18:49] there's a problem with my wireless nic with the kernel/firmware used by 12.04.1 which I just installed fresh. Is there any way that I can upgrade those. Apparently it works in newer versions. === jimerickson is now known as Guest4109 [18:57] marijnsch, this channel is for 12.10, not 12.04 [19:01] bjsnider: sorry, someone from #ubuntu told me to ask here. Will continue back there. [19:59] When I right-click on an item in a folder, all the colums shift themselves about to the left, and then they slowly move back to the right. It's all very slow and stuttery. My PC at the office does the same. Know issue? [20:01] in fact, most things are slow as hell, and Reminna crashes about 30% of the time I try to use it too. [20:01] I think that might coincide with the switch to FreeRDP libs [20:03] carl0s-: bug 1018718 perhaps, I see it too, columns resizing all over the place while browsing directories [20:03] Launchpad bug 1018718 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "columns width redrawn by multiple events" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1018718 [20:04] although it seems that bug is from before reverting to 3.4 so maybe not entirely related [20:05] it certainly looks similar [20:06] I also notice the application activity light (the little dot under an icon on the launcher) flicking like mad sometimes, and the app menu flickering loads. It's as though I'm pressing the alt key af 50hz or something. I think all these things are contributing to a slow and unresponsive OS :( [20:06] *at 50hz === hggdh is now known as hggdh_napping [21:19] still no RC? [21:20] No. It's not the 18th [21:20] Just run apt-get update as usual. [21:22] 18th is release i think [21:22] schedule says release candidate is on 11th [21:24] If I install the beta of Quantal, will apt eventually update me to the release version? [21:25] Yes. [21:25] bekks: Thanks. [21:51] javierf_: the size may be an issue though if it is requesting a certain size, let me see what size it wants [21:51] trism, so, I'm trying to use iconset NITRUX-umd. The folder is placed under .icons in my home folder. Inside NITRUX-umd I placed icons with those names (I took the icons from ubuntu-mono-light) in folder status->22 and 24 and also in folder apps->24 and 22. The reason I putted them in so many places is that I had no idea where they go. The one used at the beggining where in apps folder, but in others iconsets I saw them in status. All those 4 folders ar [21:51] e specified in index.theme === yofel_ is now known as yofel [21:52] trism, those displayed initially that I wanted to change where in apps->48. But I didn't have mines in that size. I tried both plazing my small icons (size 24) inside 48 folder and also my small icons inside 24 folder [21:59] javierf_: hmm, I don't immediately see where the size is requested but I just made a test theme with scalable icons, ~/.icons/TestTheme with http://paste.ubuntu.com/1275778/ as index.theme and svg of those 6 icons in the scalable subfolder and it is working when I switch themes, so maybe try scalable icons? [22:00] javierf_: I believe when requesting an icon gtk will check if there is an exact match for the specific size before going to a scalable one (unless you force scalable) [22:02] trism, I'm trying to do all these things we are talking, but I have to update cache quite often and the only way I know is loggind off sesion, so I loose our ocnversation records. How can I do it from terminal? [22:03] javierf_: oh, you don't have to log out, just switch themes (I usually fire up gnome tweak tool, pick a random theme and then switch back) [22:04] javierf_: updating the icon cache is really only necessary for system themes since they run gtk-update-icon-cache which saves an index to icon-theme.cache, and in those cases new icons won't show up until you update it [22:04] javierf_: you can run it on user themes too in ~/.icons but it makes it difficult if you add new icons constantly (but makes loading icons from say Faenza, much faster) [22:10] trism, ok, understood that. You know, I discovered something. Whenever I have some icons with those names inside NTRUX-umd (my icon set) folder, I get forbidden icons. When there is no icons with that name, I get icons, those I had before we started this conversation [22:11] javierf_: that is odd, maybe it is having a problem loading the icons, did you say you were using gnome-panel? [22:13] javierf_: after scrolling back I guess not, it is just that indicator-applet in the gnome classic (no effects) session logs indicator output to ~/.cache/indicator-applet-complete.log [22:13] javierf_: might give some clues [22:13] trism, I'm using unity. The problem, I've discovered, is when those icons are under apps folder. Icons appear to be all right, cause I can open them with every other program [22:25] javierf_: I find the broken icons very odd, maybe try switching to the theme with the icons there and run: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1275813/ through python to see if there is an error, if I replace user-available.svg with a random text file I get a broken image in indicator-messages and gi._glib.GError: Unrecognized image file format [22:27] trism, I have finally figured out what happened, or I think so. Icons weren't broken, but in index.theme, folders apps->22 and 24 where set to fixed type. I changed it to "scalable" type and see them now correctly as I wanted. I guess I was using icons with different size, so there it was the problem loading the icons [22:28] javierf_: excellent! very strange issue though [22:29] trism, yes, really strange. But we did it! Thanks a lot for so kind help [22:31] trism, so, thank you very much and have a nice day! [22:32] javierf_: you're welcome, you too [22:40] new issue, hope someone can help me. I upgraded to 12.10 beta 2 and now I have problem with message-indicator. Can't make it swith colour when receiving a mail. If I open indicator's menu, I see empathy and gwibber, but nothing about incoming-mails indicator. Previously, in 12.04 I was using "popper" email notifier, which is still installed. If I get a new email, I get the notification that I new email arrived, but I don't see anything on the indicator [22:40] (neither colour changing, neither a text or a new message menu). Thanks! [22:44] Hey guys, how do I know what compiler for C ++ am using on ubuntu [22:44] cowsquad: its usually g++ [22:45] jtaylor, thank you === hggdh_napping is now known as hggdh [22:46] how do i know what the colours in terminal for files really mean? [22:48] cowsquad: dircolors [22:53] jtaylor, what do you mean? [22:54] never mind, I got it. [22:57] jtaylor, How do I read that dircolors [22:57] filetype=color; [22:57] cowsquad: It is just a textfile. [22:58] i thought it was executable [22:58]