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| pitti | Good morning | 04:17 |
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| ScottK | Good morning. | 04:18 |
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| dupondje | xnox: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/903422 | 05:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 903422 in gvfs "Ubuntu does not work with Samsung Galaxy phones (needs update to libmtp)" [Wishlist,In progress] | 05:40 |
| dupondje | ubuntu does not use libmtp, but gphoto2 to access the devices via gvfs | 05:41 |
| ScottK | pitti: I would appreciate it if you could have a look at Bug #1065827 and let me know if we're missing something from our seeds or if it's an actual jockey problem. | 06:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1065827 in jockey (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu 12.10 bcmwl install failure" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1065827 | 06:17 |
| pitti | ScottK: so detection and attempt to install seemed to work alright; let me look at your desktop image's pool | 06:25 |
| pitti | ScottK: hm, all seems to be there; if you try "sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source" on the live system, does apt also try to download it from the network? | 06:27 |
| pitti | ScottK: do you see the CD source in /etc/apt/sources.list? | 06:27 |
| ScottK | Looking | 06:27 |
| ScottK | It's not in the sources.list. | 06:28 |
| ScottK | Which would explain it. | 06:28 |
| ScottK | So which package owns that problem? | 06:29 |
| ScottK | (and the apt-get install obviously doesn't work) | 06:30 |
| pitti | ScottK: is that in the live system or installed system? | 06:36 |
| ScottK | pitti: Live | 06:36 |
| pitti | ScottK: yesterday we had the topic for the installed system, where it's not entirely clear whether or not it should be there | 06:36 |
| pitti | ScottK: hm, somewhere in our live-build configuration then | 06:36 |
| ScottK | I have an install in progress on the system right now. | 06:37 |
| ScottK | I asked for non-free stuff to be installed during the install, so I'll know shortly if that works or not too. | 06:37 |
| ScottK | Then I'm going to have to crash because it's almost 2AM here. | 06:38 |
| ScottK | pitti: Thanks for helping out. | 06:52 |
| ScottK | It didn't install there either. | 06:53 |
| wzssyqa | I generate an iso with simple-cdd, while installing, it always ask me to insert a CD when the installation is nearly finished | 07:22 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 07:30 |
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| shuerhaaken | Hello. Anybody has this issue on quantal where some elements like some GtkLabels or GtkDrawingareas or the background of tabs are painted black with adwaita? See here: http://imgur.com/l8q0N | 08:26 |
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| xnox | dupondje: ok, then add appropriate gphoto2 task as well. sorry about that. That bug is a mess ;) | 08:50 |
| dupondje | xnox: gphoto2 claims to support the Samsungs | 08:55 |
| dupondje | it actually works (partly) when using gphoto2 commandline | 08:55 |
| dupondje | xnox: but it seems the MTP on the device needs calls within a few seconds after connecting | 08:57 |
| dupondje | else it goes into /ignore mode :p | 08:57 |
| xnox | dupondje: I don't have a device to test, it's just that cz<tab> was complaining that it doesn't work. | 08:58 |
| dupondje | its not working no (with gvfs/nautilus) indeed | 08:58 |
| dupondje | which is quite annoying | 08:58 |
| dupondje | surely because ALOT of people have a Samsung Android | 08:59 |
| xnox | dupondje: i think laura wanted mtp more to sync music and stuff. | 08:59 |
| xnox | dupondje: well i didn't migrate to android phones yet. and i gathered it was about samsung galaxy nexus | 08:59 |
| dupondje | nope | 09:00 |
| xnox | all? | 09:00 |
| dupondje | Samsung devices with Android 4.x | 09:00 |
| dupondje | so alot | 09:00 |
| dupondje | prolly 3.x also, but nobody uses MTP on those (as it has Mass Media option) | 09:00 |
| xnox | what changed? | 09:00 |
| dupondje | where Android 4.x only has MTP/PTP | 09:00 |
| xnox | well in the udev rules by libmtp I can clearly see galasy S and nexus 4.0 updates | 09:02 |
| xnox | dupondje: i'll look into mtp output from laura and check what's wrong later. | 09:03 |
| dupondje | xnox: btw, it 'worked' on precise | 09:54 |
| dupondje | was able to open my device in Nautilus | 09:54 |
| dupondje | but everything was empty :p | 09:54 |
| xnox | dupondje: for some value of 'worked'... I'd call that 'crashed with less flames' | 09:54 |
| dupondje | :) | 09:57 |
| dupondje | its quite annoying an device that is used so much is broken on Ubuntu | 09:57 |
| seb128 | patches are welcome ;-) | 09:59 |
| seb128 | or you can offer me a device and I will look at the bug :p | 09:59 |
| * seb128 only has a dumb bada old phone | 09:59 | |
| dupondje | heh seb128 :) | 10:02 |
| dupondje | seb128: alot of things have been fixed in new gphoto2 version | 10:03 |
| dupondje | upstream requested to test that first, but its quite some work (new api) | 10:03 |
| dupondje | so gphoto2 / libgphoto2 needs to be recompiled | 10:03 |
| seb128 | yeah, that's not going to happen for quantal | 10:03 |
| dupondje | and also gvfs should be adjusted/recompiled | 10:03 |
| dupondje | if we know the new version is ok, then we can check to maby cherry pick a patch | 10:04 |
| dupondje | but first should need to test the newest version | 10:04 |
| seb128 | yeah... | 10:06 |
| seb128 | dupondje, do you know if fedora uses the new version? | 10:06 |
| seb128 | it might be easier to boot a live image from f18 to test | 10:06 |
| seb128 | tseliot, hey, how are you? | 10:07 |
| seb128 | tseliot, could you look at bug #1061659? | 10:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1061659 in nvidia-settings-updates (Ubuntu Quantal) "package nvidia-settings-updates 304.43-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/man/man1/nvidia-settings.1.gz', which is also in package nvidia-settings 304.51-0ubuntu1" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1061659 | 10:07 |
| dupondje | LATEST BUILD | 10:08 |
| dupondje | 2.5.0-3.fc18 | 10:08 |
| dupondje | newest version :) | 10:08 |
| dupondje | i'll try it this evening :) | 10:09 |
| tseliot | seb128: hi, yes, it's on my todo list. I'll fix it soon | 10:16 |
| seb128 | tseliot, thanks, I assigned the bug to you, I hope it's ok | 10:16 |
| seb128 | dupondje, thanks, let me know how it goes | 10:16 |
| tseliot | seb128: sure, thanks | 10:16 |
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| dupondje | hmz, any idea why in usb-creator-gtk, the 'Write image' button is grayed out | 10:58 |
| xnox | dupondje: not enough space on the target? | 11:02 |
| xnox | dupondje: no source/target selected? | 11:02 |
| dupondje | xnox: .iso is 700MB | 11:03 |
| dupondje | usb stick is 3,8GB | 11:03 |
| dupondje | and I can only select the source from commandline :s | 11:03 |
| xnox | dupondje: I have no idea =) use dd or file a bug. | 11:04 |
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| dupondje | lol | 11:11 |
| dupondje | xnox: without chaning anything, I started it again now, and it works | 11:12 |
| dupondje | wt... :p | 11:12 |
| dupondje | ahhh, it only works for Ubuntu images it seems :( | 11:13 |
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| jibel | jodh, I added a detailed test case to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debconf/+bug/1060249/+text to reproduce from Precise without a full upgrade. | 11:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1060249 in debconf (Ubuntu Quantal) "frontend crashed with signal 5 in free_pending_nulls()" [High,Confirmed] | 11:54 |
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| jodh | jibel: thanks very much! | 12:42 |
| om26er | cjwatson, Hey! you will be patch pilot today ? | 12:56 |
| cjwatson | Oh, I suppose I ought to be | 12:57 |
| cjwatson | Not clear how much I can get done given that we're hard-frozen for release | 12:57 |
| cjwatson | But maybe some SRU processing or something | 12:57 |
| cjwatson | What's up? | 12:57 |
| om26er | cjohnston, i have a SRU for bamf https://code.launchpad.net/~om26er/ubuntu/precise/bamf/SRU_for_lp_1026426/+merge/129405 | 12:58 |
| om26er | fixes 1026426 a critical one | 12:58 |
| om26er | bug 1026426 | 12:58 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1026426 in bamf (Ubuntu Precise) "LibreOffice Unity integration (launcher and switcher) is broken" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1026426 | 12:58 |
| om26er | oops | 12:59 |
| cjwatson | OK, I'll finish up what I'm currently working on and then start piloting | 12:59 |
| om26er | cool | 12:59 |
| diwic | I'd like bug 973014 to be SRUed as well | 13:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 973014 in gst-plugins-bad0.10 (Ubuntu Quantal) "gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad, (libgstvideoparsersbad.so), causes a failure to decode many common video files encoded as AVC 1 Baseline - L2.1, Baseline - L1.1 & others" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/973014 | 13:16 |
| dupondje | seb128: its broken in FC18 also :( | 13:18 |
| seb128 | dupondje, ok, so not likely fixed by the new stack... | 13:18 |
| seb128 | dupondje, thanks for testing | 13:19 |
| dupondje | indeed, but I don't know if the bug is really in gphoto2 | 13:19 |
| dupondje | guess it gvfs <-> libgphoto2 interaction that is bit broken | 13:19 |
| seb128 | dupondje, I guess the real fix is for gvfs to get a mpt backend (seems to be worked upstream by some contributor) | 13:19 |
| dupondje | yep I saw that :) | 13:19 |
| cjwatson | jamespage: I don't suppose the eigenbase-resgen build failure means anything to you? | 13:42 |
| jamespage | cjwatson, funny you should say that - I was just looking | 13:42 |
| jamespage | I can't reproduce it | 13:42 |
| cjwatson | Reproduces exactly for me in sbuild | 13:43 |
| jamespage | cjwatson, hmm | 13:43 |
| jamespage | cjwatson, i386 or amd64? | 13:44 |
| cjwatson | jamespage: i386 | 13:45 |
| cjwatson | it's an arch-all build, so that's what you want | 13:45 |
| jamespage | cjwatson, I don't disagree but I can only fit so many schroots in my tiny SSD | 13:46 |
| jamespage | fortunately I have one of those | 13:46 |
| * jamespage tries again | 13:46 | |
| cjwatson | That's what I have a big external disk for | 13:46 |
| jamespage | cjwatson, well at least I can repo now | 13:51 |
| cjwatson | jamespage: cool | 13:52 |
| jamespage | cjwatson, that is a puzzler | 13:53 |
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| mpt | Keep gvfs away from my backend, thanks very much | 14:07 |
| xnox | mpt: =)))))))) | 14:20 |
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| xnox | slangasek: cjwatson: do you remember a bug or something about ubiquity unmounting /target not in a clean way resulting in journal replay on first boot/mount ? | 15:12 |
| cjwatson | xnox: I don't think so, although I can imagine that as a side-effect of all sorts of other things | 15:14 |
| xnox | cjwatson: ok. that seems to be that bug 1065034 is kind of a result of unclean fs (install, do not boot, try to reinstall). if the fs is actually clean, we proceed fine. | 15:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1065034 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "'ubuntu ubiquity: umount: /tmp/tmp.h3NCLhoxSh: not mounted' during a Reinstall attempt on a previously manually partioned vm installation" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1065034 | 15:16 |
| cjwatson | Could all be a side-effect of this GRUB bug, several layers down the line ... | 15:16 |
| xnox | cjwatson: so the bug is not nearly as bad. | 15:16 |
| cjwatson | I think you need a good deal more analysis, at any rate | 15:16 |
| cjwatson | e.g. shell tracing of where that's happening | 15:16 |
| xnox | yeah. that's what I am doing now. | 15:17 |
| * xnox well as well as ubiquity tracing as it does call out to os-prober by itself..... | 15:17 | |
| xnox | ok. | 15:17 |
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| slangasek | cjwatson: which grub bug is "this" grub bug? | 15:23 |
| cjwatson | Sorry | 15:24 |
| cjwatson | slangasek: bug 1051306 - Windows detection (or indeed grub-mount handling of anything) fails in the presence of a symlink to a directory | 15:24 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1051306 in grub2 (Ubuntu Quantal) "Windows not found unless partition is mounted" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1051306 | 15:24 |
| cjwatson | *just* tracked it down that far | 15:24 |
| cjwatson | As it happens I have a /cdrom symlink in my / which triggers this - it's at least somewhat filesystem-independent | 15:25 |
| cjwatson | (Though obviously it has to support symlinks at all) | 15:25 |
| cjwatson | Given that grub-mount is used by ubiquity and os-prober in various places, I can easily imagine this causing confusion about what's mounted | 15:26 |
| cjwatson | Particularly in the presence of mounts on subdirectories | 15:26 |
| cjwatson | I may be wrong, it's just a theory at this point | 15:26 |
| slangasek | cjwatson: aha, ok | 15:28 |
| cjwatson | slangasek: Do you agree with my continued assessment that this is RC? | 15:28 |
| slangasek | cjwatson: yes | 15:29 |
| cjwatson | It doesn't affect all cases of detecting Windows, but I strongly suspect quite a few, and is likely to have all kinds of weird side-effects | 15:29 |
| cjwatson | om26er: ... sorry, I'm going to have to postpone my piloting shift | 15:29 |
| cjwatson | Not that I was on time anyway | 15:29 |
| om26er | cjwatson, no problem, i'll catch Clint ;-) | 15:31 |
| seb128 | om26er, you should start by subscribing ubuntu-sponsors so it shows up on http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/ | 15:31 |
| om26er | seb128, now subscribed ubuntu-sponsors to both bugs | 15:34 |
| stokachu | slangasek: hey im getting a lot of pressure for having bug 1013211 and bug 1036834 uploaded and pushed into precise, is there anything we can do to get this going? | 15:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1013211 in libgnomecanvas (Ubuntu Precise) "[FFe] Please transition libgnomecanvas to multi-arch" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1013211 | 15:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1036834 in gdb (Ubuntu Precise) "[FFe] gdb should be marked "Multi-arch: allowed"" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036834 | 15:52 |
| stokachu | both are in quantal but theres been no movement on precise | 15:53 |
| slangasek | doko: ^^ were you looking at sponsoring 1013211? | 15:53 |
| ScottK | IIRC there was some push back on gdb. | 15:54 |
| stokachu | the gdb one has conflicting comments | 15:54 |
| doko | slangasek, is this for q? I'm not sru release. I think I did upload it | 15:54 |
| slangasek | stokachu: the gdb one is probably all me, though; I'm unlikely to get a chance to look at it before release | 15:54 |
| doko | gdb was rejected by bad pitti | 15:54 |
| stokachu | slangasek: ok, libgnomecanvas is the high prio one atm anyway | 15:54 |
| slangasek | stokachu: ah, oh | 15:54 |
| slangasek | stokachu, doko: right, I see libgnomecanvas in the queue and today's my SRU day (once I'm through with 12.10-related fires), so I'll get that moving | 15:55 |
| doko | stokachu, libgnome for p is alreay done? | 15:55 |
| stokachu | doko: libgnome is done libgnomecanvas is not though | 15:55 |
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| doko | infinity, slangasek: sbsigntool promoted to main. Please fix the i386 configury properly, using the $host macros, not fiddling around with uname and then fixing it ... | 15:59 |
| doko | slangasek, where should sbsigntool be seeded? | 15:59 |
| slangasek | doko: i386 configury> bah, hadn't noticed that; could you please file a bug on the package to track it? I'm not likely to get to this before release | 16:00 |
| slangasek | doko: also, would you please stop promoting packages before they're seeded ;) | 16:00 |
| stokachu | doko: if possible could we get bug 1013211 pushed into precise-proposed today? | 16:01 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1013211 in libgnomecanvas (Ubuntu Precise) "[FFe] Please transition libgnomecanvas to multi-arch" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1013211 | 16:01 |
| infinity | doko: Sorry, the i386 thing was just a hack to fix jk's worse hack, I meant to bring it up with him using a ruler. | 16:01 |
| stokachu | ive got clients ready to test and verify | 16:01 |
| doko | slangasek, why? as long as pitti has left, they're not demoted again ;p | 16:01 |
| slangasek | doko: they generate email spam to me! | 16:01 |
| slangasek | doko: and sometimes yes, I do demote things I see there | 16:02 |
| stokachu | err sorry | 16:02 |
| stokachu | missed that comment from slangasek | 16:02 |
| stokachu | slangasek: thanks for taking a look at that | 16:02 |
| slangasek | doko, cjwatson: how about supported-installer-common for sbsigntool seeding (for the time being)? | 16:02 |
| infinity | Seems as good as any. | 16:03 |
| infinity | Or supported-hardware-common | 16:03 |
| slangasek | doko, infinity: seeded, thanks | 16:06 |
| doko | hmm, the uefi packages are already in supported-installer-common | 16:06 |
| slangasek | yep | 16:06 |
| slangasek | not sure why arm bootloaders are in hardware, but x86 bootloaders are in installer. :-P | 16:06 |
| infinity | Just cause. | 16:06 |
| cjwatson | slangasek: Yep | 16:06 |
| infinity | Maybe someone was making the distinction between ARM bootloaders being, essentially, the BIOS (so, "hardwareish")? I dunno. | 16:07 |
| infinity | Should I be suspicious that the one arch where remctl is FTBFS in Ubuntu happens to be the one arch that was hand-built and uploaded by the maintainer in Debian? | 16:08 |
| xnox | infinity: you can copy-package from debian archive into ubuntu archive using lp api right?! =) | 16:20 |
| * xnox hides | 16:20 | |
| cjwatson | No, because LP doesn't import the binaries :-P | 16:20 |
| cjwatson | Just as well. | 16:20 |
| xnox | cjwatson: good! =) | 16:20 |
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| doko | infinity, builds fine on i386 in wheezy | 16:21 |
| cjwatson | infinity: Can you make anything out of the rakudo build failure? It keeps failing in different places, from what I can tell, and it built fine on scheat. | 16:22 |
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| infinity | cjwatson: Means nothing to me, at a glance. But if it's failing in different spots, obviously the solution is to give it back once an hour until release. | 16:27 |
| infinity | cjwatson: Oh, and smb4k fixed and testbuilding here. | 16:28 |
| infinity | (Well, potentially fixed, testbuil will tell me for sure) | 16:28 |
| cjwatson | infinity: excellent, I have your blessing then ;-) | 16:28 |
| cjwatson | smb4k> great. We're getting close | 16:29 |
| ev | mpt: the deployment is blocked on me sorting out setting the browser history when the user changes the table | 16:34 |
| ev | right now it's getting stuck in a loop once you get back to the first query | 16:34 |
| cjwatson | infinity: I've got an armel build failure trying to link to __aeabi_i2d; is that a "wrong floating-point mode" error? | 16:38 |
| infinity | cjwatson: Missing -lgcc? | 16:40 |
| cjwatson | Oh, hmm, this is trying to link with ld | 16:41 |
| infinity | cjwatson: Except, that should be implicit on ARM, I thought... | 16:41 |
| cjwatson | I wonder if it's safer to switch to gcc generically or to add -lgcc | 16:41 |
| infinity | cjwatson: Oh, not so implicit if not linking with gcc. | 16:41 |
| TheLordOfTime | what's the package that contains most of the dev tools for ubuntu, such as gcc compiler libraries and the likes? | 16:42 |
| sarnold | TheLordOfTime: build-essential | 16:42 |
| infinity | cjwatson: Adding -lgcc means arch-guarding it, or having an unnecessary dep on other arches. Using gcc should just DTRT, unless it's a package that's doing something very clever for very good reasons. | 16:42 |
| cjwatson | It's Java-related; it's more likely to be doing something stupid for bad reasons. | 16:43 |
| infinity | Hah. | 16:43 |
| cjwatson | (And actually this is a Debian-specific patch to boot. | 16:43 |
| cjwatson | ) | 16:43 |
| cjwatson | doko: Does http://paste.ubuntu.com/1275250/ ring a bell, on armel? That's java3d after I fixed it to link with gcc rather than ld. I'm wondering if there's a java-config script it needs to be using or something ... full build log in my homedir on scheat | 17:13 |
| infinity | cjwatson: Looks more like a link order as-needed issue. | 17:21 |
| cjwatson | Possibly -ljvm before -ljawt I guess | 17:22 |
| infinity | cjwatson: Well, and -o foo in the wrong part of the link line. | 17:24 |
| cjwatson | Since when did the position of -o foo matter at all? | 17:25 |
| cjwatson | Position of input objects, sure, but they're all at the start here. | 17:25 |
| infinity | cjwatson: Oh, indeed. I could also just be half asleep. | 17:29 |
| ogra_ | youre such a pessimist | 17:29 |
| ogra_ | could have said half awake :) | 17:30 |
| cjwatson | Switching -ljvm and -ljawt makes no difference. | 17:32 |
| cjwatson | And I doubt moving them any earlier would help. | 17:32 |
| silverarrow | hi | 17:33 |
| silverarrow | I am looking for more extensive info on how to troubleshoot audio driver issues | 17:34 |
| silverarrow | there something with the new kernel and snd-aoa drivers for powerpc I cannot figure out | 17:34 |
| silverarrow | they usual fixes described on FAQ pages does not work | 17:35 |
| infinity | cjwatson: Hrm, well, maybe there was a reason they were using ld raw... | 17:37 |
| silverarrow | I don`t get any response on the forum either | 17:37 |
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| doko | cjwatson, will have a look tomorrow. afk | 18:05 |
| slangasek | jamespage: hey, do I understand correctly that bug #1053770 is being addressed by changing the "minimum requirements" documentation rather than shrinking the install? | 18:22 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1053770 in ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu Quantal) "ubuntu-server install takes up too much space" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1053770 | 18:22 |
| jamespage | slangasek, yes | 18:23 |
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| slangasek | jamespage: ok, cheers - should we mark it 'wontfix' for ubuntu-meta/ | 18:23 |
| jamespage | slangasek, done | 18:24 |
| jdstrand | mdeslaur, jjohansen, sarnold: I was just looking at bug #1058356 | 18:45 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1058356 in cups (Ubuntu) "fails to install when kernel does not provide block_suspend capability" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1058356 | 18:45 |
| jdstrand | so, as the summary says, precise kernels don't have block_suspend, but quantal does | 18:45 |
| jdstrand | the quantal cups profile has a rule that uses block_suspend | 18:46 |
| mdeslaur | we're trying to run quantal userspace on a precise kernel? | 18:46 |
| jjohansen | oh fun | 18:47 |
| jjohansen | mdeslaur: more like quantal policy | 18:47 |
| mdeslaur | -ENOTSUPPORTED | 18:47 |
| jdstrand | and while dh-apparmor is smart enough to use 'apparmor_parser ... | true', /lib/init/apparmor-profile-load does not use '|| true', so when people upgrade from precise to quantal, cups is restarted, but that fails, so the job fails, and then the bug bites | 18:47 |
| mdeslaur | oh, hrm | 18:47 |
| slangasek | at minimum, this would be an issue on upgrade | 18:47 |
| slangasek | right | 18:48 |
| jdstrand | so the 12th our fix is to add || true to /lib/init/apparmor-profile-load | 18:48 |
| mdeslaur | jdstrand: I'm ok with that | 18:48 |
| jdstrand | slangasek: these days, upstart will log the error output, correct? | 18:48 |
| slangasek | jdstrand: stdout and stderr from any upstart job will by default wind up in /var/log/upstart, yes | 18:49 |
| jdstrand | ok, then I think || true is ok myself | 18:49 |
| jjohansen | jdstrand: well we should really fix it so that the parser can handle this | 18:49 |
| jjohansen | not saying that || true isn't the solution for today | 18:49 |
| jdstrand | yeah | 18:49 |
| jdstrand | agreed on both counts | 18:50 |
| sarnold | jjohansen: how does the parser/kernel interface report "unsupported capability"? | 18:50 |
| jdstrand | ok, let me bring this up in #ubuntu-release. I'll probably open a new bug for apparmor_parser | 18:50 |
| jjohansen | jdstrand: it is | 18:50 |
| jjohansen | sarnold: when the parser is built it auto extracts the list of capabilities known from the includes, the apparmor kernel module exports the mask of capabilities it supports :/ | 18:52 |
| sarnold | jjohansen: by name or by number? | 18:52 |
| sarnold | (the exports-the-mask...) | 18:52 |
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| jjohansen | sarnold: number, I had thought kees had made that a names list | 18:52 |
| sarnold | one hopes they're one-and-the-same, but ... | 18:52 |
| jjohansen | sarnold: well hrmm you would hope but I am not sure that is guaranteed for all architectures. I know its not for rlimits | 18:53 |
| sarnold | the downside is, even if it does printk()/audit() 'unsupported capability in profile', the profile itself may still deny e.g. cap_sys_admin, if that was the capability required on earlier systems. | 18:54 |
| sarnold | jjohansen: oooh, ouch. | 18:54 |
| jjohansen | sarnold: so ideally we would patch the kernel to have a names mask as well but can always fall back to the current numeric mask | 18:54 |
| jjohansen | sarnold: I don't follow | 18:55 |
| sarnold | jjohansen: is block_suspend a brand-new interface that didn't exist in older kernels? or was it split out of cap_sys_admin? | 18:56 |
| jjohansen | sarnold: ah, got it. We need a mapping for things like that :/ | 18:57 |
| sarnold | jjohansen: that's almost related to cbolt'z profile versioning -- except kernel versioning. | 18:58 |
| jjohansen | sarnold: yeah a similar but different problem | 18:59 |
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| slangasek | jdstrand, jjohansen: so I'm questioning the analysis on bug #1058356 now | 19:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1058356 in upstart (Ubuntu Quantal) "fails to install when kernel does not provide block_suspend capability" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1058356 | 19:36 |
| slangasek | I don't think this is a precise->quantal upgrade issue at all | 19:37 |
| slangasek | it's not reproducible at all in the Ubuntu QA jenkins runs | 19:37 |
| jdstrand | slangasek: it was reported via a QA jenkins run | 19:37 |
| slangasek | jdstrand: for indicator-session CI, *not* the daily upgrade testing runs that we do | 19:38 |
| jdstrand | tedg_ reported it | 19:38 |
| slangasek | tedg_ is not Ubuntu QA :) | 19:38 |
| slangasek | the desktop upgrade tests do *not* show this failure | 19:38 |
| jdstrand | sure, but I am testing it now regardless | 19:38 |
| jdstrand | (ie, the test case for the sru) | 19:38 |
| jdstrand | so give me a few minutes | 19:38 |
| smoser | slangasek, are you planning on bringing 643286 back to precise? | 19:41 |
| slangasek | smoser: ENOSUCHBUG? | 19:42 |
| smoser | gar | 19:43 |
| smoser | bug 643289 | 19:43 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 643289 in nfs-utils (Ubuntu Precise) "idmapd does not starts to work after system reboot" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/643289 | 19:43 |
| smoser | better. | 19:43 |
| slangasek | smoser: that's the idea, yes; but I was waiting for you to tell me if the latest mountall in quantal holds together :) | 19:44 |
| smoser | well. | 19:45 |
| smoser | $ df -h / | 19:45 |
| smoser | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on | 19:45 |
| smoser | /dev/vda1 9.9G 1.1G 8.5G 11% / | 19:45 |
| smoser | which is nicer than '-' | 19:45 |
| slangasek | smoser: well I know I fixed that particular bug... more looking for stress-test feedback | 19:46 |
| slangasek | since you seem to exercise mountall in ways we have not previously conceived ;) | 19:46 |
| claw_ | hey guys i am missing pxechain.com in syslinux in 12.04 LTS | 19:47 |
| smoser | well our quantal "ephemeral" images sem functional at the moment | 19:47 |
| xnox | claw_: i saw your bug. but everyone is busy making quantal release right now. I have a mental note to look at it. but can't promise anything. | 19:48 |
| smoser | and the only issue that i'd seen in 2.41 was the mtab issue. | 19:48 |
| slangasek | smoser: ok | 19:50 |
| claw_ | xnox, that would be great thank you very much | 19:50 |
| slangasek | smoser: flagged in my brain to follow through on that SRU then, thanks | 19:50 |
| jdstrand | slangasek: ok, I can confirm that the simple test case of copying the quantal cups profile into place on precise causes the restart to fail. now I will attempt a precise to quantal upgrade | 19:50 |
| slangasek | jdstrand: ok, curious | 19:50 |
| smoser | slangasek, thanks. the only real raeson i'm asking is tha tmy fix for bug 1031065 depends on that. | 19:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1031065 in cloud-init (Ubuntu Precise) "cloud-init-nonet runs 'start networking' explicitly" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031065 | 19:50 |
| slangasek | smoser: yeah, I know | 19:51 |
| claw_ | xnox, but i did not open a bug request... it was an mail to the devs mailing list which was not accepted yet i guess | 19:51 |
| cjwatson | the pxechain problem in 12.04 is Debian #663302 | 19:51 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 663302 in syslinux "include extra modules" [Normal,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/663302 | 19:51 |
| cjwatson | So that should be reasonably easy to SRU since it's fixed in quantal | 19:51 |
| cjwatson | (not that I have time right now) | 19:51 |
| xnox | claw_: hmm... maybe I saw the email. if there is no bug report. open one please. using `ubuntu-bug syslinux` | 19:51 |
| xnox | claw_: otherwise it will be lost. | 19:51 |
| xnox | claw_: sorry, ignore me. see cjwatson's comment. | 19:52 |
| cjwatson | no, you were right the first time, it's a good idea to file a bug anyway | 19:52 |
| * xnox will use improt-debian-bug ;-) | 19:52 | |
| cjwatson | in particular if you file it that means you'll be notified when there's a package in precise-proposed available for testing | 19:52 |
| ScottK | So claw_ should still see cjwatson's comment. | 19:52 |
| cjwatson | xnox: Better for somebody who cares directly to file it, and then they'll get told about testing | 19:53 |
| xnox | claw_: after all the chit-chat, please file a bug referencing the debian bug linked above. | 19:54 |
| xnox | =) | 19:54 |
| kees | jjohansen: I thought it was a bitmask, but rlimit was a name list? | 19:57 |
| kees | $ cat /sys/kernel/security/apparmor/features/capability | 19:57 |
| kees | 0xffffff | 19:57 |
| kees | $ cat /sys/kernel/security/apparmor/features/rlimit/mask | 19:57 |
| kees | cpu fsize data stack core rss nproc nofile memlock as locks sigpending msgqueue nice rtprio rttime | 19:57 |
| jjohansen | kees: yep | 19:57 |
| jjohansen | kees: for some reason I was thinking we did the name list with caps too | 19:57 |
| jjohansen | kees: I will probably add a new file with the names | 19:58 |
| kees | jjohansen: yeah, I thought I did too. There was some reason it wasn't that way, but it eludes me now. | 19:58 |
| kees | cool | 19:58 |
| claw_ | the problem was fixed by debian on 8th May or earlier | 20:00 |
| cjwatson | Right, which is why it's fixed in 12.10 | 20:00 |
| claw_ | its a server system i want to have some LTS | 20:01 |
| cjwatson | Certainly - please file a bug about it and we'll get it backported | 20:01 |
| claw_ | i will thanks | 20:01 |
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| xnox | Ooohhh we have SHA-3 the Keccak hash =) | 20:22 |
| * xnox best name ever | 20:23 | |
| micahg | better than Pebcak hash :) | 20:25 |
| jdstrand | slangasek: so, like I said, I can readily reproduce with the new apparmor profile and the old upstart. it is curious as a do-release-upgrade worked fine, so I am back to being confused as to how people are actually hitting this in the real world. that said, I think it is still worthy of an SRU since this is like the 3rd time I've seen this bug | 20:41 |
| jdstrand | slangasek: but I have downgraded the priority | 20:41 |
| jdstrand | it's a trivial SRU, we recognize the deficiency in apparmor_parser and this should help whatever corner cases that people are hitting | 20:42 |
| slangasek | jdstrand: ack. Strange for it to not reproduce in the upgrade | 20:43 |
| jdstrand | yeah. it has been a head-scratcher since people say they see it on upgrade, but yet I don't see it | 20:44 |
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| jdstrand | I thought it might have something to do with the fact that the postinst has 'start cups' | 20:44 |
| jdstrand | (as opposed to restart) | 20:44 |
| jdstrand | and maybe upstart was being smat | 20:44 |
| jdstrand | smart | 20:45 |
| jdstrand | and if it was running, not running the apparmor bit | 20:45 |
| slangasek | postinst has 'start cups' because prerm has 'stop cups' | 20:45 |
| jdstrand | which would mean people would have to have cups stopped. but even then, the postinst as || true after start | 20:45 |
| slangasek | so cups should never be running at that point | 20:45 |
| jdstrand | ok, well, still. there is an || true | 20:45 |
| jdstrand | so, yeah, I don't know what corner case this is, but we can recognize the class of bug due to apparmor_parser and avoid the problem going forward | 20:47 |
| slangasek | right, as long as you're happy that the apparmor_parser change is per se correct | 20:47 |
| slangasek | and not simply a workaround for a bug | 20:47 |
| jdstrand | I believe it is correct for the current state of apparmor_parser | 20:47 |
| slangasek | if it's a workaround with negative side effects, it might be worth figuring out exactly what bug it's really working around | 20:48 |
| jdstrand | we would like to fix that, and when we do, we will remove this from upstart | 20:48 |
| jdstrand | oh, I might add that cups does not go unconfined | 20:48 |
| slangasek | right - the previous apparmor profile still applies, as expected? | 20:48 |
| jdstrand | it isn't removed | 20:48 |
| * slangasek nods | 20:49 | |
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| * xnox hopefully now migrated to znc proxy. | 23:54 | |
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