| cjwatson | xnox: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1274646/ is what I meant in my MP comments the other day - does that work for you? | 09:54 |
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| xnox | cjwatson: yeap, I did understand you =) and it should work. Didn't test it yet. | 09:55 |
| xnox | cjwatson: are you prepping a release? | 09:56 |
| cjwatson | Not immediately | 09:56 |
| xnox | (well, upload) | 09:56 |
| cjwatson | Thought I'd do a translation sync while I remember, but doesn't seem worth respinning for as yet | 09:56 |
| cjwatson | xnox: Anything I can do to help with bug 1051306, or have you managed to reproduce it? | 10:12 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1051306 in os-prober "Windows not found unless partition is mounted" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1051306 | 10:12 |
| xnox | cjwatson: got that one assigned late at night yesterday. | 10:13 |
| xnox | cjwatson: didn't do much with it. any pointers would be nice. | 10:13 |
| * xnox doesn't have windows machines handy by the way. | 10:13 | |
| cjwatson | I can possibly resurrect an install in the corner | 10:14 |
| cjwatson | Will take a bit | 10:14 |
| cjwatson | Plus considerably more waking up | 10:14 |
| xnox | =) i used to have a windows xp VM somewhere.... on one of these external drives. | 10:15 |
| * xnox looks at a box in a corner | 10:15 | |
| xnox | cjwatson: that paste from you http://paste.ubuntu.com/1274646/ looks very nice, just tested. " no visible jitter" | 10:31 |
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| cjwatson | Right, restoring this Windows install now. May take a while | 12:06 |
| xnox | cjwatson: the debug is confusing. the syslog shows that it did mount it. | 12:58 |
| xnox | cjwatson: could there be a difference between ntfs & GRUB ntfs drivers? | 12:59 |
| xnox | with the later one not showing some files e.g. bootmgr. | 12:59 |
| cjwatson | It's certainly *possible* | 12:59 |
| cjwatson | It would be extraordinarily tedious | 13:00 |
| cjwatson | I can't reproduce it here :( | 13:01 |
| xnox | which windows do you have? | 13:02 |
| xnox | Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System | 13:02 |
| xnox | /dev/sda1 63 80324 40131 de Dell Utility | 13:02 |
| xnox | /dev/sda2 * 81920 501379071 250648576 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT | 13:02 |
| xnox | is in the bug report with windows 7 (loader) | 13:02 |
| cjwatson | Windows 7 | 13:02 |
| cjwatson | I'll ask for a bit more output | 13:03 |
| xnox | sure. | 13:03 |
| cjwatson | I have a separate loader partition, apparently, so not quite the same | 13:03 |
| xnox | cjwatson: hmm... os-prober uses unshare and hence gets a different mount context.... any way to hack into it? as the OP in bug 1051306 cannot list the files grub-mount is showing. | 13:23 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1051306 in os-prober "Windows not found unless partition is mounted" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1051306 | 13:23 |
| cjwatson | Err | 13:24 |
| cjwatson | I didn't ask him for anything involving os-prober | 13:24 |
| xnox | (their own implementation of unshare but whatever) | 13:24 |
| xnox | true. | 13:24 |
| * xnox is confused sorry. | 13:24 | |
| cjwatson | So that shouldn't be remotely relevant | 13:24 |
| xnox | cjwatson: ok. but then why can he not access the files? | 13:24 |
| cjwatson | He hasn't bothered to read what I wrote and follow it exactly | 13:25 |
| cjwatson | sudo grub-mount results in something that's only root-readable by default | 13:25 |
| cjwatson | If he'd followed my directions this wouldn't have been a problem | 13:25 |
| cjwatson | But he editorialised | 13:26 |
| xnox | "sudo ls -la /mnt doesnt give the correct result either." | 13:26 |
| xnox | hmm... | 13:26 |
| cjwatson | And he didn't tell me what | 13:26 |
| * cjwatson has little sympathy with people failing to follow precise directions and thinking they know better | 13:26 | |
| cjwatson | xnox: Any luck with bug 1065034? | 13:34 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1065034 in ubiquity "'ubuntu ubiquity: umount: /tmp/tmp.h3NCLhoxSh: not mounted' during a Reinstall attempt on a previously manually partioned vm installation" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1065034 | 13:34 |
| xnox | cjwatson: nope. still need to debug which (u)mount this is coming from. | 13:35 |
| xnox | you want candidates, I get it =) | 13:36 |
| cjwatson | It's listed as a respin trigger so I need to make sure we're on top of it. | 13:38 |
| cjwatson | Can you reproduce it? | 13:38 |
| xnox | not in the past. will try the current image. | 13:39 |
| cjwatson | xnox: ooh - well, I may not have been able to reproduce on my test machine, but I sure can on my laptop, albeit not with NTFS | 13:45 |
| cjwatson | grub-mount $my_root_partition /mnt -> empty /mnt | 13:46 |
| cjwatson | xnox: Mind if I reassign this bug to grub2 and steal assignee? | 13:46 |
| xnox | cjwatson: knock yourself out =) | 13:46 |
| xnox | cjwatson: well, maybe os-prober should check that after mounting /mnt has some files. & try remounting without grub-mount. that would be a workaround to the problem. | 13:47 |
| * xnox off to the reinstall attempt then. | 13:48 | |
| cjwatson | But it would reintroduce the very problems that grub-mount was introduced to avoid, and worse, would only do so sometimes depending on whether grub-mount happened to work or not. | 13:48 |
| cjwatson | We should fix the underlying bug instead. | 13:48 |
| Riddell | I just pushed a fix for visible formatting strings in kde frontend bug 1065989 | 13:49 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1065989 in ubiquity "[kde] formatting for strings visible in string" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1065989 | 13:49 |
| cjwatson | I'm not keen on stacks of software working around other bits of software. | 13:49 |
| xnox | and it's perfectly valid to have empty file systems ;-) | 13:49 |
| cjwatson | Riddell: Er, those strings had already been translated. | 13:50 |
| cjwatson | Can we not strip the tags in code instead? | 13:50 |
| cjwatson | If not, you need to go through all the translations and fix them. | 13:51 |
| Riddell | cjwatson: looking at ubiquity.template from today's image there's no translations? | 13:51 |
| cjwatson | Look at bzr. | 13:51 |
| cjwatson | I did a translation update from Launchpad earlier today. | 13:51 |
| Riddell | aah | 13:51 |
| cjwatson | I strongly recommend stripping in code if at all possible, because otherwise confusion will ensue ... | 13:51 |
| xnox | Riddell: translations are in the .po files. And note my comment on #ubuntu-release. that you didn't "fix" all existing translations. | 13:52 |
| Riddell | yep will do | 13:52 |
| cjwatson | But even then, fixing the .po files may well create confusion at the next translation sync | 13:52 |
| cjwatson | It could easily take an upload or two to get things synced up again, and we don't have time. | 13:53 |
| infinity | They should be fixed at some point, mind, unless you really want those strings to contain markup forever... | 13:53 |
| cjwatson | Sure. But for now, better to work around in code. | 13:53 |
| infinity | (But maybe after release, sure) | 13:53 |
| xnox | cjwatson: wouldn't the upload import the translations into launchpad? | 13:53 |
| cjwatson | xnox: Yes, but consider translations between the point I downloaded and the point we upload. | 13:53 |
| infinity | xnox: translation imports aren't all that quick, plus yeah, collisions. | 13:53 |
| xnox | *sigh* I see. | 13:53 |
| cjwatson | Given the number of translations we've had already, this isn't an implausible problem. | 13:53 |
| * infinity notes that he gets email about errors in the dpkg translations usually a day or two after his uploads, so it can't be quick... | 13:54 | |
| cjwatson | The queue backs up quite a bit sometimes. | 13:54 |
| infinity | Which is why I always forget to fix those two errors, because I've context switched away by then. | 13:54 |
| xnox | cjwatson: i cannot reproduce grub-mount not showing any files locally. *confused* | 14:02 |
| Riddell | ok nicer fix pushed for formatting strings in kde frontend | 14:05 |
| cjwatson | Riddell: Thanks, should be better for now | 14:09 |
| xnox | Riddell: true. we can fix the translations post-q release. | 14:11 |
| infinity | cjwatson: Are we still hoping for more ubiquity bugfixes that can be rolled up with Riddell's? | 14:56 |
| xnox | infinity: i can reproduce bug 1065034 locally and working on it. | 14:57 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1065034 in ubiquity "'ubuntu ubiquity: umount: /tmp/tmp.h3NCLhoxSh: not mounted' during a Reinstall attempt on a previously manually partioned vm installation" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1065034 | 14:57 |
| xnox | infinity: but it's not ready yet. | 14:57 |
| infinity | xnox: That's fine, the current images are still building anyway, maybe we can give people a small chance to test them before we invalidate them all. :P | 14:59 |
| xnox | infinity: you are cruel. =) have you read the Hunger Games? You remind me of gamesmakers that set off a wall of fire against contestant lol =) | 15:00 |
| cjwatson | infinity: yeah, that one. also I'm going to have a grub2 fix as soon as I work out what it is. | 15:00 |
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