[05:49] <Noskcaj> anyone know why testdrive has so many extra iso links?
[05:52] <Noskcaj> link ubuntu DVD and xubuntu alternate
[05:52] <Noskcaj> *like
[07:31] <dholbach> good morning
[07:32] <jibel> good morning dholbach
[07:33] <elfy> morning dholbach
[07:34] <dholbach> salut jibel
[07:34] <dholbach> hey elfy
[07:34] <dholbach> how are you all doing?
[07:34] <jibel> dholbach, good, mentally preparing to test Quantal final images :)
[07:34] <elfy> pretty good thanks
[07:35] <dholbach> YES :)
[07:35] <elfy> I'm just preparing to report the same bugs :p
[08:12] <Noskcaj> i xubuntu the install progress bar doesn't appear, can someone confirm this for me
[08:12] <Noskcaj> *in
[08:30] <dholbach> pitti, mvo just found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/autopkgtest/+bug/1065873 :)
[08:34] <jibel> dholbach, nice, the error handling code crashes
[08:36] <dholbach> and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/autopkgtest/+bug/1065874
[08:36] <dholbach> wow, he's on a roll now
[08:51] <jibel> mvo, did you report the bugs to debian ? I'll fix them there
[08:54] <mvo> jibel: i did not, happy to do that
[08:58] <jibel> mvo, thanks
[08:59] <jibel> everything's ugly in this code, indentation is broken with no indentation directives which makes the code even more broken when edited
[09:00] <mvo> jibel: I can look at providing patch if you want - I assume its python?
[09:01] <jibel> mvo,you don't need to. it's done
[09:02] <jibel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1274578/
[09:04] <pitti> dholbach: sorry, was OTP; thanks, looking
[09:04] <mvo> jibel: thanks
[09:05] <mvo> jibel: I have more, don't worry ;)
[09:07] <mvo> jibel: python-apt has adt style tests now and they work in my pbuilder env :)
[09:08] <pitti> mvo: nice!
[09:10] <dholbach> :-D
[09:10] <dholbach> pitti, step 1 of my autopkgtest marketing worked ;-)
[09:11]  * pitti ^5s dholbach
[09:11] <dholbach> :-D
[09:11] <jibel> dholbach, mvo was an easy target, try the unity team now ;P
[09:14] <mvo> pitti: :)
[09:14] <mvo> silly(?) questin, is there a way to say "this test can only run in the build tree, i.e. after the thing got build"?
[09:15] <mvo> (or is that the default anyway?)
[09:15] <pitti> mvo: "Restriction: needs-build"
[09:15] <pitti> sorry, "Restriction: build-needed"
[09:15] <pitti> see http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=autopkgtest/autopkgtest.git;a=blob_plain;f=doc/README.package-tests;hb=HEAD
[09:16] <pitti> Restrictions:
[09:16] <pitti> mvo: this is used if the tests themselves need to be built
[09:20] <dholbach> hey om26er! maybe we should integrate autopkgtest into unity and friends - what do you think? mvo is doing it for his sutff as well! :)
[09:20] <mvo> pitti: nice
[09:21]  * dholbach will have to update http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/auto-pkg-test.html later on
[09:21] <mvo> pitti: I hope to eventually lift that restriction, but for now its probably needed for apt itself
[09:21] <pitti> mvo: it's fine
[09:22] <pitti> mvo: I'm not sure whether we already have a test that uses this restriction, but if it breaks, we should rather fix it in our machinery
[09:22] <pitti> we'll need that eventually anyway
[09:24]  * mvo nods
[09:31] <om26er> dholbach, I think PS integration team are the right people for that, sil2100 is off sick today else I would ask him to join this channel.
[09:32] <om26er> dholbach, you may want to follow up with popey :)
[10:09] <dholbach> om26er, will do :)
[10:37] <mvo> hm, the apt adt stuff is not looking good, it appears as if the chroot is doing something to apt to prevent it from working propertly, need to find out what
[15:21] <silverarrow> xfburn crashes
[15:21] <silverarrow> it happened on some of the updates lately
[15:21] <smartboyhw> silverarrow, report a bug then:D
[15:23] <silverarrow> when it happens, a window pops up "ubuntu had an internal error" or something like that, and it auto launches a report
[15:23] <silverarrow> a week a go xfburn worked fine
[15:26] <balloons> check for updates to xfburn
[15:38] <jibel> ouch, cdimage.u.c is very slow today :(
[15:38] <smartboyhw> :(
[15:47] <balloons> jibel, yes.. everything feels like it's being hammered today
[17:21] <kanliot> someone broke the wiki
[17:22] <kanliot> where do the website people live?
[17:28] <silverarrow> I have problem with searching up any good info on my asla problem
[17:29] <silverarrow> something is messed up with the new kernel and snd-aoa drivers
[17:29] <silverarrow> at least that is what I suspect
[17:30] <silverarrow> the clever guys who made the snd drivers are on to new things, and are not of any help these days
[17:31] <silverarrow> and the beta team seems to be in a rut
[17:31] <balloons> kanliot, which wiki?
[17:33] <kanliot> never mind i'ts working now
[17:33] <kanliot> i blame the cloud
[18:30] <kanliot> what is "require my password to login?" guest accounts?  I ask b/c i donno
[18:30] <kanliot> on installing dialog
[18:39] <balloons> kanliot, it will autologin you otherwise
[18:40] <balloons> meaning, no lightdm prompt
[18:55] <njin> balloons, finally back (and raided-1).., howdy ? have great news for me ??
[18:55] <balloons> yes
[18:55] <balloons> all the server cases are migrated :-)
[18:55] <balloons> and welcome back!
[18:55] <njin> great, have you done the maas too ?
[18:57] <njin> tomorrow i go back and work again, now I've got many things to replace
[19:06] <balloons> njin, yes I did maas too
[19:18] <kanliot> i can't get persistence working but i'm not gonna report a bug
[19:18] <kanliot> not going to waste anyone's time
[19:18] <kanliot> that would be bad
[19:22] <wxl> kanliot: i had that problem too but figured there were bigger fish to fry
[19:27] <Noskcaj> kubuntu doesn't have any bug reporting instuctions i shall file a bug on it
[19:28] <Noskcaj> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/240/builds/25635/buginstructions
[19:28] <balloons> kanliot, persistence is on the list to fix
[19:29] <balloons> the current instructions don't seem to work for most people
[19:32] <Noskcaj> the kubuntu release notes point to the kubuntu news page does this need a new bug or just go with the ubuntu one?
[19:37] <balloons> Noskcaj, what do you mean?
[19:39] <Noskcaj> balloons: when i click release notes it goes to the kubuntu news page
[19:39] <balloons> link?
[19:39] <Noskcaj> is this part of bug 1065789 or needs its oown bug
[19:40] <Noskcaj> also are kubuntu installer bugs still ubuiquity?
[19:43] <balloons> they have a kde frontend
[19:43] <balloons> so it depends
[19:44] <balloons> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview should be the page that gets the release notes
[19:45] <Noskcaj> balloons: it goes to http://www.kubuntu.org/news instead
[19:45] <wxl> I HEARD THAT
[19:45] <wxl> oops wrong channel O_O
[19:46] <balloons> Noskcaj, which links links incorrectly?
[19:46] <balloons> lol  -- does that make sense?
[19:46] <Noskcaj> where do i file the following bugs: release notes, encript HDD button, fail to detect location(says adelade but shows sydney info
[19:46] <Noskcaj> no
[19:46] <balloons> if it's a kde page, you may need to ask them
[19:46] <Noskcaj> ok
[19:47] <balloons> #kubuntu-devel
[19:47] <Noskcaj> i have to go feed some sheep now, i will be back soon
[19:47] <balloons> ok, so let's talk about your other issues
[19:47] <balloons> k, i'll be here
[19:56] <Noskcaj> i'm back
[19:59] <Noskcaj> balloons: PING
[20:02] <balloons> Noskcaj, :-)
[20:02] <balloons> k, so what's the other things you've found?
[20:02] <Noskcaj> balloons: i am testing kubuntu in virtualbox and it has stuck on the restart, this will make bug reporting hard for me
[20:02] <balloons> ahh
[20:03] <balloons> does it not restart after installing?
[20:03] <Noskcaj> no
[20:03] <Noskcaj> also  release notes link wrong, encript HDD button, timezone detect says adelade but shows sydney info
[20:03] <balloons> one thing at a time :-)
[20:03] <balloons> so what's this restart bug your talking about/.
[20:04] <Noskcaj> i have been told that virtualbox doesn't always restart and not to worry about it
[20:04] <balloons> yes.. ok,
[20:04] <balloons> yea, it's a known issue
[20:04] <balloons> just manually restart it
[20:04] <balloons> ok, so next issue? :-)
[20:04] <Noskcaj> ok
[20:05] <Noskcaj> the encript my home folder button is meant to be a checkbox
[20:08] <balloons> yes
[20:08] <balloons> what is it?
[20:10] <Noskcaj> instead of it being an optional checkbox under "require my password to log in" it is a separate button that cannot be selected at the same time as either of the other option
[20:13] <balloons> Noskcaj, that might be ok, depending on what you select
[20:13] <balloons> it will grey out
[20:13] <balloons> what options are you checking on the screen?
[20:13] <Noskcaj> ?
[20:14] <Noskcaj> its a wording bug at least
[20:15] <balloons> I'm booting up to the screen now so I can follow better
[20:15] <balloons> give me a second to get that far into the installer
[20:15] <Noskcaj> ok
[20:15] <balloons> now, as to the timezone detect, we can debug that as well
[20:17] <balloons> Noskcaj, go here: http://geoip.ubuntu.com/lookup
[20:17] <balloons> what does it show?
[20:17] <balloons> for timezone?
[20:21] <Noskcaj> Australia/NSW
[20:21] <Noskcaj> which is correct
[20:22] <Noskcaj> it showed everything properly just it said Adelaide instead of sydney
[20:22] <balloons> ahh, that might be a-ok then
[20:23] <balloons> I mean from a bug perspective
[20:23] <Noskcaj> but adelaide is 2000km away
[20:23] <balloons> is it in the same timezone?
[20:23] <Noskcaj> no
[20:23] <balloons> ahh
[20:24] <balloons> but the url i sent you shows it properly?
[20:24] <balloons> that's what the screen is using
[20:24] <balloons> the city selected should correspond to the respone from that page
[20:24] <balloons> if it doesn't, that's a bug
[20:24] <balloons> are you connected to the internet?
[20:24] <Noskcaj> the city says Young a small town in NSW
[20:25] <Noskcaj> i am connected to the internet
[20:25] <balloons> k, so I'm on the require a password page now
[20:25] <balloons> the city isn't used, I don't believe
[20:25] <balloons> just the timezone
[20:25] <Noskcaj> i will try and get a screencap of it
[20:25] <balloons> so, what do you want me to do on this screen to recrate your issue
[20:25] <balloons> to sidestep for a moment
[20:25] <balloons> yes, screencaps are good
[20:26] <Noskcaj> did you see the encript bug?
[20:31] <Noskcaj> https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B57km_mHQf74YXl1Y3hBTGxEUlE
[20:31] <Noskcaj> for the screencp
[20:31]  * balloons looking
[20:31] <balloons> ahh! your in the kde installer
[20:32] <balloons> ok, so that where are you screen is wrong
[20:32] <balloons> does it work in the gtk ubiquity installer?
[20:32] <balloons> the auto-detect is off anyway
[20:32] <Noskcaj> how do you get that
[20:32] <balloons> I'm not sure if they use a different lookup than what I showed you
[20:33] <balloons> aka, I'm asking does it identify properly in the ubuntu installer
[20:33] <Noskcaj> yes
[20:33] <Noskcaj> always
[20:33] <xnox> balloons: have you seen this bug: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1046627
[20:34] <xnox> balloons: the testcase doesn't match ubiquity spec & the correct implementation in some hw configuration cases.
[20:34] <xnox> balloons: that page is "optional" if there is big enough disk available for install.
[20:34] <balloons> xnox, I have seen that bug
[20:35] <balloons> I was kind of confused by it actually
[20:35] <balloons> so your saying the testcase needs updated to say the page may optionally display?
[20:35] <Noskcaj> https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B57km_mHQf74Y0ZFZUJtdkdtbDg for the second bug balloons
[20:36] <balloons> xnox, while your here :-) does the kde ubiquity frontend use the same geo-ip lookup as ubuntu?
[20:36] <balloons> seems like not
[20:36] <balloons> Noskcaj, I would file a bug then, mentioning it works under ubiquity installer, but not the qt ubiquity frontend
[20:36] <balloons> ok now on this bug, what should I be seeing herE?
[20:36] <xnox> balloons: yes. Alongside install can be either of two things: (a) you have unpartitioned space on one of the disks and it's 8GB+ in size, we will not attempt any resizing and install into there (nickname biggest_free)
[20:36] <Noskcaj> ok, so is it still in ubiqity?
[20:37] <xnox> or (b) we don't have unpartitioned free space, and we actually have to perform carefully the fragile resize operation -> show user-friendly "safe" resize screen
[20:38] <xnox> Noskcaj: balloons: please file a bug with all details against ubiquity. I will triange it, appropriately. If there is a difference between gtk & qt, it's most likely ubiquity bug.
[20:38]  * xnox doesn't have context and the backscroll looks way to long for me to read =)
[20:39] <balloons> xnox, basically there's a geoip bug on the 'where are you screen' -- only shows up in qt installer
[20:40] <xnox> balloons: cool. file a bug with `ubuntu-bug ubiquity` and please add a screenshot / photo =)
[20:41] <balloons> Noskcaj, ^^ ;-)
[20:42] <balloons> Noskcaj, ditto for your 'require my password bug', gtk installer looks good
[20:42] <balloons> mention the your using the qt installer when filing!
[20:42] <balloons> that will help ;-)
[20:43] <Noskcaj> balloons: thanks, do i file it though the xubuntu install?
[20:44] <balloons> what do you mean? your using the kde installer right?
[20:44] <Noskcaj> yes
[20:44] <Noskcaj> sorry i meant  kubuntu
[20:45] <balloons> yes
[20:45] <balloons> yes kubuntu, still file to ubiquity
[20:45] <balloons> mention your using the qt frontend, or kde installer
[20:45] <balloons> they're the same thing :-)
[20:46] <Noskcaj> i will do that as soon as the manual partioning install finshes
[21:04] <Noskcaj> Balloons: i dont have the time to report the bugs, if possible can you report the using the screencaps i showed you and i will finish them later
[21:04] <balloons> Noskcaj, the reports will be best to come from the installation you installed on, so the logs get added
[21:05] <balloons> they won't be as useful done generically by me..However, feel free to report them when you get a chance
[21:21] <kanliot> NSFW: found some bugs http://imgur.com/IYmfS
[21:25] <balloons> kanliot, ugh
[21:27] <kanliot> lol
[21:28] <phillw> he he
[21:28] <phillw> balloons: a little glimmer of hope Re: Chromium, if you have time?
[21:29] <balloons> brb
[21:29] <phillw> kanliot: PM?
[21:49] <balloons> phillw, so what's up?
[21:50] <balloons> I *think* my connection is stable and your reading this
[21:51] <phillw> balloons: I sent a general email to the lubuntu people about the chromium ppa I found . julien immediately asked for the email address saying that no one was really looking after it at the moment. Hopefully, he and the guy will get somethijg sorted out to bring the daily & stable back to ubuntu-chromium ppa :D
[22:05] <balloons> ahh
[22:17] <phillw> balloons: hmm, basically another full set of respins for bug 1051306 ?
[22:20] <phillw> at least they look to be hearding then with bug 1065034  and bug 1065989
[22:20] <phillw> I have a feeling the latter has lot more detail to it than the bug report says!
[22:21] <xnox> yes, we are about to respin for all of the above. as well as other bits
[22:21] <xnox> (well opportunity targets)
[22:23] <phillw> xnox: always grab an opportunity one at the chance, that's what they're queued up for :)
[22:27] <balloons> :-)