[00:00] <zykotick9> bvier: sorry, not sure.
[00:00] <bvier> zykotick9: any other way you can think of to install those DEBs?
[00:01] <SQLDarkly> hey in /etc/sudoers can you grant a >username ALL=(ALL) ALL< except one directory?
[00:01] <sambagirl> is there a way to take a snapshot of just what i have in a browser?
[00:02] <zykotick9> bvier: see "/msg ubottu offline" and/or "/msg ubottu aptoncd"
[00:03] <bvier> zykotick9: ok thankyou very much
[00:09] <Kheo> hello everyone
[00:10] <Kheo> how can I change my user password via ssh ?
[00:10] <yekoms> type: passwd
[00:10] <Kheo> and then ?
[00:10] <yekoms> put in your old passwd, and then your new one twice. and your done.
[00:11] <bobweaver> what are you trying to do Kheo  Oo
[00:11] <Kheo> yekoms: I did and when I open a new terminal the new pass isn't functioning.
[00:12] <Kheo> but, the old pass does.
[00:12] <Kheo> :)
[00:12] <yekoms> if you set a new passwd, it should work.
[00:12] <yekoms> ive never seen passwd fail at setting a new passwd.
[00:13] <Kheo> yekoms: do I need reboot ?
[00:15] <Kheo> ???
[00:15] <Ray2> xchat-2.8.6 on ubuntu 10.04...I have lost the ability to completetab nick ??
[00:16] <Kheo> the passwd requires reboot after changing the old pass to a new one ?!
[00:23] <Draugrs> quit
[00:24] <Kheo> It's anyone here ?
[00:24] <smooth-texan> is the live stream of the VP debates working for anyone? http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/live/
[00:24] <smooth-texan> under linux that is
[00:25] <gogeta> nope
[00:25] <crazydip> Kheo: no it does not - no reboot is needed
[00:25] <Kheo> crazydip: so why It does not change ?
[00:25] <crazydip> Kheo: you must have either 1) not changed the password or 2) changed the password of a different user
[00:26] <Kheo> nop
[00:26] <danes> hello, how can I mount an ntfs partition in raid 1? I tried with mount but I got a message wrong fs type....
[00:26] <crazydip> Kheo: did you receive any error?
[00:26] <Kheo> nop
[00:26] <Kheo> I'm loged with the user that I want to change the pass.
[00:26] <Kheo> and I'm typing passwd
[00:26] <Kheo> type new
[00:27] <Kheo> retype ...
[00:27] <Kheo> and when I log on..not working with the new pass.
[00:27] <Kheo> passwd: password updated successfully
[00:27] <Kheo> and when I log on..not working with the new pass.
[00:28] <danes> can someone help me mounting a ntfs parition in raid 1?
[00:28] <zykotick9> smooth-texan: doesn't work for me, "watch now" just returns to the same page again.  BUT i'm in Canada.
[00:28] <Kheo> ????
[00:29] <crazydip> Kheo: type: passwd -S
[00:29] <Kheo> ye
[00:29] <Kheo> and now ?
[00:29] <Kheo> root P 10/12/2012 0 99999 7 -1
[00:30] <crazydip> Kheo: you're logged in as root....
[00:30] <Kheo> and ?
[00:30] <crazydip> Kheo: you trying to change the root password right?
[00:30] <Kheo> ye
[00:30] <smooth-texan> zykotick9: same here thanks
[00:31] <Kheo> crazydip ?
[00:31] <crazydip> Kheo: type users
[00:32] <Kheo> crazydip: how can I change user root pass ?
[00:32] <Kheo> my user it's the only one logged.
[00:34] <crazydip> Kheo: how are you using root? sudo?
[00:34] <Kheo> ye
[00:35] <crazydip> what are you typing exactly to change the root password?
[00:36] <crazydip> err
[00:36] <Kheo> passwd
[00:36] <crazydip> that's it?
[00:36] <Kheo> new pass
[00:36] <Kheo> retype new pass
[00:36] <Kheo> yes
[00:37] <crazydip> what do you get when typing: whoami
[00:37] <Kheo> root
[00:41] <manwhat> Hey, I'm going through some code of a friend's but the indentation is all over the place and making it impossible to read. Is there a free program somewhere to auto-indent it so it isn't an eyesore?
[00:42] <manwhat> I was using gedit, but a quick google search didn't show any way to easily do it
[00:46] <manwhat> well, further googling looks like I should install gVim, that's OK I guess, I'm already used to using Vim in the terminal but I like to use a mouse sometimes for handy menus
[01:16] <L3top> manwhat: there is a script that is helpful in that circumstance. http://arachnoid.com/linux/beautify_bash/index.html
[01:16] <L3top> it is written in ruby.
[01:17] <ac_slater> Hey guys, is there a hook into apt for certain packages? ie - I want to rebuild my nvidia modules after each kernel release. And I have to use the official nvidia package for CUDA.
[01:19] <ac_slater> nvm, /etc/kernel/postinst.d/
[01:19] <jrib> ac_slater: you probably want to use dkms though?
[01:19] <L3top> +1
[01:19] <ac_slater> jrib: right. But is that possible with the nvidia installer from their site?
[01:20] <ac_slater> ( i know what DKMS is, but not how to really MAKE it work without things that already support it)
[01:20] <jrib> ac_slater: should be afaik
[01:20] <ac_slater> right, scripting the rebuilding of the nvidia module is simple to do though.
[01:21] <ac_slater> jrib: i would love dkms, but I have no idea if it's a pubsub thing or if there is some serious effort that needs to be put into my modules to make them dkms-able
[01:21] <jrib> ac_slater: I'm not familiar with the details
[01:22] <L3top> yes ac_slater. You just need to build dkms into the kernel... repo kernels this is achieved with linux-headers-xxxx in addition to linux-kernel-xxxx
[01:22] <ac_slater> L3top: right. wouldnt it need to module source to do this though?
[01:23] <L3top> The installer from nvidia survives dkms.
[01:24] <L3top> !info linux-headers-3.2.0-31-generic
[01:24] <ac_slater> thanks man
[01:24] <L3top> does too... !
[01:28] <ac_slater> alright ... well putting a script in `/etc/kernel/postinst.d/` and doing `aptitude install linux` didnt do a dam thing... :(
[01:30] <WeThePeople> when binding what mount point do i use?
[01:31] <L3top> what are you trying to bind? What are you trying to do WeThePeople?
[01:31] <blackshirt> wethepeople, thats depends you want
[01:33] <invisibleheero> Hey guys I have an Nvidia Geforce GT 540M graphics card and an intel card too (Samsung RF 711 laptop). I was wondering how do I have the system take my nvidia card instead of the intel card? I followed http://www.howopensource.com/2012/10/install-nvidia-geforce-driver-in-ubuntu-12-10-12-04-using-ppa/ but when I do that my display gets all buggy 640x320 display
[01:33] <invisibleheero> Ubuntu 12.10
[01:33] <invisibleheero> x64
[01:33] <FloodBot1> invisibleheero: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:33] <haihaihai> hi
[01:33] <invisibleheero> I get W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[01:34] <ac_slater> jrib: ah... i see. Tio DKMS the nvidia driver is pretty simple.
[01:34] <ac_slater> L3top: ^
[01:34] <ac_slater> to*
[01:34] <xangua> !12.10 | invisibleheero
[01:34] <WeThePeople> l3top, i have spoken to you before about this.. i have to reinstall grub :) i did " mount /dev/sda1 /mnt " 'and then' " mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev " but then says no mnt point
[01:34] <haihaihai> hello, how can i delete ubuntu?
[01:35] <xangua> haihaihai: format your hd, next :)
[01:35] <invisibleheero> #ubuntu+1
[01:35] <invisibleheero> oops
[01:35] <L3top> /mnt/dev is the mountpoint WeThePeople... it presumes you have mounted the drive to /mnt
[01:35] <manwhat> L3top: delayd thanks for the link
[01:35] <haihaihai> format c: doesn't work, xangua :-(
[01:35] <IdleOne> haihaihai: How did you install it?
[01:36] <L3top> invisibleheero: you are going to need to install bumblebee
[01:36] <haihaihai> a friend installed it for me, IdleOne
[01:36] <L3top> haihaihai: How do you delete windows?
[01:36] <elixey> i got to use cut to remove everything before ; can someone help
[01:36] <IdleOne> haihaihai: Did they install it on it's own partition or did they use Wubi to install it?
[01:37] <L3top> np manwhat.
[01:37] <elixey> there were a bunch of very knowledgeable people in here last night... .
[01:37] <elixey> where they all go to
[01:37] <haihaihai> i have to leave, thanls for your help, perhaps windows is able to delete ubuntu
[01:37] <WeThePeople> l3top, now it says.. fuse: mount failed: Device or resource busy
[01:37] <haihaihai> thanks
[01:37] <invisibleheero> L3top, when I tried http://askubuntu.com/questions/36930/how-well-do-laptops-with-nvidia-optimus-work I got the 404 about the repos being missing
[01:37] <invisibleheero> or not found for that matter
[01:38] <bjrohan> I put ubuntu on a thumbdrive, however the computer I am trying to install it on does not have an option to boot from a USB. I have Ubuntu on this machine currently. Can I boot into ubuntu, and then install from the USB drive somehow?
[01:38] <kelvinella> hi, which command I can download a sequence of files from internet?
[01:38] <L3top> invisibleheero: I don't know what that means. I dont believe bumblebee is in the repo. You will have to install it from them.
[01:38] <afallenhope> L3top, W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[01:38] <kelvinella> for example i want download http://www.site.com/1.jpg up to 100.jpg
[01:38] <kelvinella> in terminal
[01:38] <Stanley00> kelvinella: wget
[01:39] <kelvinella> whats the command? with a for loop?
[01:39] <IdleOne> xangua: please don't tell people to format HD when they ask how to remove Ubuntu. Did you bother to consider that perhaps it was a wubi install or a dual boot? a format would have caused them to lose all their other data. !behelpful
[01:39] <L3top> afallenhope: that is a ppa... and quantal... you need to join #ubuntu+1 for that atm.
[01:39] <blackshirt> kelvinella, place it in file, and feed them to the downloader
[01:40] <L3top> WeThePeople: I don't know what you have done. I can walk you through this from the beginning, but not from whatever you have already half done.
[01:40] <Stanley00> kelvinella: wget and for loop can do that
[01:40] <kelvinella> for(i,1,100) wget http://www.site.com/%i; ??
[01:40] <kelvinella> for(i,1,100) wget http://www.site.com/%i.jpg; ??
[01:40] <afallenhope> !bumblebee
[01:41] <carboncito> !bumblebee
[01:41] <Stanley00> kelvinella: for((i=1;i<100;i++)); do wget url/$i; done if you use bash
[01:41] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[01:41] <WeThePeople> l3top, i just reformatted and installed XP but the partition doesnt show up in backtrack live cd, only my ubuntu partition shows up??
[01:41] <L3top> http://bumblebee-project.org/install.html
[01:41] <kelvinella> Stanley00, thx let me try now
[01:41] <afallenhope> hmm so there's not support for the latest fawk
[01:42] <L3top> !backtrack
[01:42] <trism> kelvinella: I prefer: for i in {1..100}; do something with $i; done
[01:42] <selleron> Does anyone know how to refresh a repository from the console?  I was trying to reinstall a broken postgresql install, it wouldn't remove, so I erased all the postgresql files I could find.  Now, even after apt-get update, apt-get says it can't find package postgres.  think I need to refresh the repositories somehow, but I don't know how to do it from the console.
[01:42] <carboncito> !backtrack
[01:42] <IdleOne> selleron: sudo apt-get update
[01:42] <L3top> !botabuse | carboncito
[01:43] <selleron> IdleOne: I did that, it didn't help
[01:43] <WeThePeople> l3top, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1274187/
[01:43] <IdleOne> selleron: any errors?
[01:43] <L3top> WeThePeople: pastebin the output of:  mount
[01:44] <selleron> IdleOne: nope, runs just fine
[01:44] <WeThePeople> l3top, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1274189/
[01:44] <kelvinella> Stanley00, works like a charm THX a million!!
[01:44] <L3top> WeThePeople: is there a reason you are not using an ubuntu live cd to install grub in ubuntu?
[01:45] <Stanley00> kelvinella: :)
[01:45] <WeThePeople> l3top, dont have one :) i have used backtrack and its works just fine
[01:45] <kelvinella> Stanley00, what are any other cool tricks with wget?
[01:45] <WeThePeople> to reinstall grub
[01:45] <IdleOne> selleron: apt-get install postgresql - what does it say?
[01:45] <Stanley00> kelvinella: I don't know, maybe you should look at its manpage
[01:45] <L3top> WeThePeople: you have already made several attemtps at this from the look of it. As I said... I will gladly help you from scratch, not here. Reboot.
[01:45] <kelvinella> Stanley00, ok
[01:46] <WeThePeople> l3top, ok, brb
[01:46] <selleron> IdleOne: It says installed is the newest version, so maybe I don't have a packaging problem, but when I run "service postgresql start" nothing happens at all, just goes right to next line of prompt.
[01:46] <blackshirt> kelvinella, place it in file, and feed them to the downloader
[01:47] <IdleOne> selleron: no output is good, means it started without problems
[01:47] <IdleOne> selleron: make sure it is installed, apt-cache policy postgresql
[01:48] <kelvinella> BlackBishop, i dont like downloader, terminal works better specially sometimes i am on the road I can ssh into my computer with my iphone
[01:49] <selleron> IdleOne: it shows as installed, but when I try to connect using psql, it acts like it's not running, and ps ax shows no postgres processes running
[01:49] <kelvinella> BlackBishop, I know the gui method i just want to know how to download using my iphone
[01:49] <IdleOne> selleron: try a stop and  the a start
[01:49] <IdleOne> then*
[01:50] <selleron> IdleOne: still nothing.  I don't think it fully installed.  there's nothing in /var/lib/postgresql
[01:50] <selleron> IdleOne: just an empty directory
[01:50] <selleron> IdleOne: it's like it's not running the config when it installs the package
[01:51] <Stanley00> kelvinella: well, wget can download links from text file too ;)
[01:51] <IdleOne> selleron: sudo apt-get install --reinstall pstgresql
[01:51] <IdleOne> postgresql*
[01:51] <kelvinella> Stanley00, ok
[01:53] <jiteshk23> Hey !
[01:53] <WeThePeople> l3top, ok ready
[01:54] <selleron> IdleOne: http://pastebin.com/FWS7mMqP
[01:54] <L3top> Did he change names or drop?
[01:55] <WeThePeople> right here
[01:55] <WeThePeople> sry
[01:55] <L3top> WeThePeople: there you are. sudo -s enter your pass then you can actually just paste this whole thing. http://pastebin.com/iB2Bn98E
[01:55] <selleron> IdleOne: I tried to install dsyslog, and got this in the output "dpkg: warning: files list file for package `postgresql-9.1' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed."
[01:55] <IdleOne> selleron: apt-get -f install
[01:55] <Aikar> any ideas why my nvidia drivers wont load on a Samsung RC512 laptop? I installed nvidia-current and nvidia-current updates (neither work) and ran sudo nvidia-xconfig, the xorg.conf looks fine but it loads up in super low res w/o nvidia
[01:56] <L3top> Let me know if you have any issue WeThePeople.
[01:56] <L3top> WeThePeople: It would be safer to copy paste one line at a time.
[01:56] <Aikar> xorg.0.log shows loading nvidia, then lil bit down below that shows unloading nvidia
[01:56] <Aikar> but i dont see an error
[01:57] <selleron> IdleOne: I ran the apt-get -f install, then ran udo apt-get install --reinstall postgresql*, now it wants to install 820 packages, that is a bit much i think?
[01:57] <WeThePeople> l3top, does it mount in home or root?
[01:58] <IdleOne> selleron: without the *
[01:58] <WeThePeople> l3top, i have to make the mnt dir :)
[01:58] <L3top> it mounts to /mnt
[01:58] <IdleOne> selleron: that * was me correcting my spelling earlier
[01:58] <WeThePeople> ok
[01:58] <L3top> ah... well that exists in ubuntu... I dont use backtrack... clearly
[01:59] <selleron> IdleOne: I did that, it works, but I get the same files list file for package postgresql-9.1 is missing error, and postgres still isn't running.  I think I deleted the files list file, and apt-get update isn't fixing that
[02:00] <IdleOne> selleron: ok, only thing I can think of now is to purge it completely. sudo apt-get purge postgresql , after it is done apt-get install postgresql
[02:00] <IdleOne> selleron: the purge will remove everything it installed/tried to install.
[02:00] <Aikar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1274208/   < can anyone see why my nvidia driver isnt working?
[02:00] <selleron> IdleOne: it runs the purge, but still getting the same files list files missing error
[02:01] <IdleOne> selleron: you got me, try #ubuntu-server maybe someone there knows how to get you sorted
[02:01] <selleron> IdleOne: I think i killed some info about the package that dpkg needs to work
[02:01] <selleron> IdleOne: ok, thanks for giving it a shot!
[02:01] <L3top> Aikar: are you on quantal?
[02:02] <WeThePeople> l3top, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1274211/
[02:03] <L3top> Aikar: the long and short of it is this... the optimus chipset is completely unsupported by nvidia in linux. There is no official option to make that work. It is not two cards, it is one fused card. There is a third party option, bumblebee, but quantal is not supported there, or here for the time being. What you are trying to do, there is no solution for, if you are on quantal.
[02:03] <L3top> one sec WeThePeople.
[02:04] <Aikar> L3top: thanks, i just found bumblebee on my own, do you know if i need to uninstall nvidia-current first?
[02:04] <WeThePeople> what is the command to check sda1, sda2, sda3 etc..
[02:04] <L3top> WeThePeople: oops... LC_ALL=C chroot /mnt grub-install /dev/sda5
[02:05] <L3top> fdisk -l  WeThePeople... to look at basic information about them.
[02:05] <Aikar> I had games working on this laptop before but reinstalled today :/
[02:05] <L3top> Aikar: you should just need to install bumblebee-nvidia
[02:07] <L3top> sorry for the oversight WeThePeople.
[02:07] <L3top> WeThePeople: THAT IS WRONG TOO
[02:07] <WeThePeople> l3top, its sda
[02:07]  * L3top is clearly tired... change that sda5 to sda
[02:07] <L3top> very very sorry.
[02:08] <WeThePeople> i remembered
[02:08] <L3top> good for you... I think I am going to get some shuteye after this.
[02:08] <gogeta> Aikar: and
[02:08] <Nine_9_> w-what?
[02:08] <Nine_9_> ops, wron channel
[02:09] <WeThePeople> l3top, how do i look up the media number on the hdd??>>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1274215/
[02:10] <WeThePeople> l3top, thanks for the assistance :)
[02:10] <gogeta> WeThePeople: you can just look at your fstab file
[02:11] <gogeta> WeThePeople: or just type fdisk -l
[02:11] <WeThePeople> l3top, how do i umount??
[02:11] <L3top> thats fine WeThePeople... it is trying to find a thumbdrive or something... ignore the ls error... it did what it was suppsoed to
[02:11] <WeThePeople> do i need to
[02:12] <L3top> and update does not require an asignment
[02:12] <gogeta> WeThePeople: with the gui just right click eject
[02:12] <WeThePeople> nice..
[02:12] <L3top> WeThePeople: do the update again without specifying the drive just to be sure...
[02:12] <L3top> that isnt actually accurate in our case WeThePeople
[02:13] <L3top> You have a bunch of none mounts and binds...
[02:13] <WeThePeople> l3top, i already exit chroot
[02:13] <L3top> WeThePeople: However you could just reboot.
[02:13] <red98> Just installed ubuntu and i have no wired network option help please
[02:13] <L3top> you werent in chroot... you simply ran chroot commands.
[02:14] <WeThePeople> interesting, im righting that down :)
[02:14] <WeThePeople> whatever
[02:14] <RiXtEr> red98, what kind of network card do you have?
[02:14] <gogeta> red98: is it working
[02:16] <red98> Not sure what it is its onbord nic and it worked to download pacakes to install and worked when it was just a server but now that its desktop it dosent work
[02:16] <gogeta> red98: wired is normaly set to auto and does not come up uless its nor working
[02:17] <gogeta> not
[02:17] <gogeta> red98: i would go into the network manager make shure its not set up to still be a server
[02:18] <red98> Under connections there is no auto which i normally have and whrn i create a connection with dhcp and manual dosent work
[02:18] <gogeta> red98: delete all settings and auto ahouls return
[02:19] <gogeta> should
[02:19] <scott__> Dual monitors are not showing up in Display Settings, instead it's one big monitor at 3000px. Is there a way to fix this?
[02:19] <gogeta> red98: could be a bad disk if it worked before and not now
[02:19] <gogeta> red98: thats way its always a good idea to md5em
[02:20] <L3top> scott__: I would need to see your xorg.conf
[02:20] <gogeta> red98: also if you hibernated windows your nic will not work
[02:20] <b0agn> red98: look in oyur /etc/network/interfaces file and see if there's anything set for your wired interface
[02:20] <scott__> I didn't think Ubuntu 12.04 used Xorg?
[02:20] <red98> All setting removed
[02:21] <gogeta> scott__: lol wayland isnt even close to ready that was just a bunch of fud
[02:21] <scott__> Oh.
[02:21] <scott__> I dunno. Linux is confusing anyway.
[02:21] <red98> It might be a bad disc cause i re downloaded and burnt a new one when i started having the problems
[02:21] <b0agn> red98: you need to at least have the loopback listed in your interfaces file.
[02:21] <gogeta> red98: md5 it you will knoe
[02:22] <red98> I have lo and eth0
[02:22] <b0agn> restart your networking service
[02:22] <gogeta> red98: ok its working if your on a cable modem reset it
[02:22] <POLP> hey guys, how do I install Beta 2 on a USB stick?
[02:22] <gogeta> red98: reset pc as well
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> !12.10
[02:23] <b0agn> red98: /etc/init.d/networking restart
[02:23] <POLP> Thanks
[02:23] <gogeta> b0agn: service network restart works to
[02:23] <b0agn> gogeta: sometimes it does not
[02:24] <WeThePeople> l3top, i cant umount for some reason?
[02:24] <L3top> Again... you would have to umount everything you mounted and bound. Just reboot to the drive
[02:24] <red98> Did that now what?
[02:24] <b0agn> red98: ifconfig
[02:25] <gogeta> b0agn: some cable modems dont like new installs mac adress changes the modem is probly blobking him
[02:25] <L3top> scott__: It does not by default, but for things like dual monitors, it does generally... what is the gpu and driver... and see if you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf and if so, pastebin it
[02:25] <WeThePeople> l3top, i would like to umount and unbind everything before i reboot
[02:25] <gogeta> b0agn: simple reset and all should work
[02:26] <b0agn> xylog: true that.
[02:26] <scott__> http://pastebin.com/NwrSeXAV
[02:26] <WeThePeople> l3top, my usual set of instructions to do that isnt working
[02:26] <b0agn> red98: sudo shutdown -r now
[02:26] <L3top> WeThePeople: reboot does that for you. Reverse the steps in the pastebin that begin with mount if you want to do it by hand.
[02:26] <red98> I have internet now but not showing in connections manager at the top
[02:26] <red98> Restarting now
[02:27] <gogeta> red98: then auto is working lol
[02:27] <L3top> WeThePeople: umount -lf /mnt/proc; umount -lf /mnt/sys; umount -lf /mnt/dev/pts; umount -lf /mnt
[02:27] <b0agn> red98: hoefully it works after reboot.  It could be a network manager - dbus issue
[02:29] <L3top> WeThePeople: er... throw a umount -lf /mnt/dev in before the /mnt maybe...
[02:29] <red98> Its not showing at the top but at least i have internet thanks
[02:29] <gogeta> L3top: sudo halt everything unmounts pc shuts down lol
[02:30] <gianni_> !list
[02:30] <gogeta> red98: yea that network manager can be crashy i remove it and use wicd
[02:30] <selleron> IdleOne: I think my dpkg status file was messed up.  Using that as a reference, I purged everything postgres related using dpkg, then did apt-get install postgres, and all was good. Thanks for getting me started.
[02:30] <L3top> gogeta: didn't know about the nones/binds... thanks for that.
[02:31] <WeThePeople> l3top, thanks it worked
[02:32] <IdleOne> selleron: glad you figured it out :)
[02:32] <selleron> IdleOne: me too, thanks :)
[02:34] <gogeta> red98: wicd works on everything even cli :)
[02:36] <b0agn> red98: You could try "dpkg-reconfigure network manager" (if you are game)
[02:36] <b0agn> dpkg-reconfigure network-manager
[02:38] <b0agn> red98: But gogetas option may be the way to go
[02:44] <zykotick9> b0agn: wicd is on the verge of being deprecated.  especially on ubuntu i'd say.
[02:45] <zykotick9> b0agn: which makes me very sad.  as wicd is what i use on my notebook.
[02:47] <b0agn> zykotick9: Is it? Thatmakes me sad too.
[02:50] <zykotick9> b0agn: wicd can connect to wireless without a DM installed.  Network-Manager can't.  i don't look forward to the end of wicd...
[02:53] <maliubiao> hello , guys , is there a way to delete a software that compiled from source code?
[02:53] <graingert> maliubiao: if you ran a make script as root
[02:53] <graingert> maliubiao: no way of reversing it
[02:54] <zykotick9> maliubiao: that's why installing for source isn't such a great idea...
[02:54] <graingert> maliubiao: please use the package manager only
[02:54] <maliubiao> thank you .
[02:54] <graingert> maliubiao: the script could do anything
[02:54] <graingert> eg rm -rf /
[02:54] <zykotick9> maliubiao: see if there is a "make uninstall" or similar.  see the readme if there is one
[02:55] <graingert> but even the make uninstall could be dodgy
[02:55] <zykotick9> graingert: agreed.  installing for source on ubuntu is foolish in many ways.
[02:55] <graingert> maliubiao: _many_ ways
[02:56] <jayar> where are the error logs
[02:56] <gtristan> somebody save me from this tracker thing in Ubuntu 12.04
[02:56] <zykotick9> jayar: /var/log/foo
[02:56] <jayar> ty
[02:56] <IngElias> hey guys I have a problem, I have ubuntu 11.10 with xfce-desktop. When I open any carpet desktop is changed to Unity, any idea?
[02:57]  * zykotick9 wonders what a "carpet desktop" is, but assumes it's part of unity
[02:58] <gtristan> how do I get RID of the annoying SEARCH BAR that ruthlessly decides to POPUP on its own every time I hit the damn ALT !?
[02:58] <gtristan> apt-get uninstall tracker-gui ??
[02:58] <gtristan> grrr, seems not...
[02:59] <IngElias> For example, I open the file administrator and then desktop is changed
[02:59] <IngElias> the file manager
[03:00] <bjrohan> I have Ubuntu on a machine already, I want to do a fresh install of Lubuntu from a USB drive that I have, the issue is that the bios doesn't have boot from USB capabilities. Is there a way I can do a fresh install from within ubuntu?
[03:00] <zykotick9> IngElias: i'd GUESS you're trying to launch "nautilus" which will probably spawn the entire desktop without the correct switch.
[03:01] <milardovich> zykotick9, I think IngElias has XFCE installed in his machine
[03:01] <milardovich> So I think it is a Thunar problem
[03:01] <IngElias> I think I'm not explaining well, here is again: When I log on my XFCE session and I try to open any folder, then the theme changes automatically to the default theme. I think it's a problem of my file manager
[03:01] <zykotick9> milardovich: i agree.  that's why starting just "nautilus" will try to start gnome3/etc
[03:01] <penguinman> gtristan, that's the HUD. you can change the keyboard shortcut for that in system settings
[03:02] <zykotick9> IngElias: is it thunar or nautilus you're using as a file manager?
[03:02] <LABcrab> Hey people!  i have many errors on my hard drive.  How do i know if it's still good?
[03:03] <zykotick9> LABcrab: if it's a hardware issue, i'd ask in ##hardware
[03:03] <jayar> LABcrab: check it with the disk utility
[03:04] <IngElias> nautilus
[03:04] <WACOMalt> hey folks. I need to find the hardware identifier for my default audio device
[03:04] <WACOMalt> how can I do that?
[03:04] <IngElias> zykotick9 Nautilus
[03:04] <LABcrab> Thanks, good night!
[03:05] <WACOMalt> in the form of PCH [plughw:0,0] ect ect
[03:05] <zykotick9> IngElias: there is some switch, check "man nautilus", to start ONLY the file manager, and NOT the entire desktop.
[03:05] <milardovich> WACOMalt, lspci | grep Audio
[03:06] <gtristan> penguinman, seems not... perhaps with dconf-editor ? ...
[03:06] <gtristan> or gconf-editor
[03:06] <b0agn> zykotick9: maybe fork or maintain wicd
[03:06] <steveGODSchild> hi I need some help
[03:06] <gtristan> seems ubuntu 12.04 does not have that option in system settings
[03:07] <milardovich> zykotick9, IngElias tried to explain his problem some minutes ago, and I haven't got a clue about what can be happening, but I will try to paraphrase so maybe we can throw some light on this:
[03:07] <steveGODSchild> I got my cd to play music in ububtu 12.04
[03:07] <zykotick9> b0agn: lol, if i programmed maybe i could ;)  probably have to be a pretty good programmer at that ;)  i'm no help there.
[03:07] <penguinman> gtristan, try searching for keyboard in the dash. should bring up the shortcut editor. i'm using dwm at the moment but when i'm in unity mine is set to alt-x
[03:07] <WACOMalt> milardovich, hmm that gave me only two devices, wheras java is seeing 11
[03:07] <steveGODSchild> but now the music sounds like crap
[03:07] <Ex0deus> ello
[03:08] <penguinman> gtristan, the hud i mean is set to alt-x
[03:08] <WACOMalt> milardovich, any idea how I can choose the proper value from this java output: http://www.blindmanstudio.com/dropbox/Selection_001.png  to correspond to what device my computer uses by default?
[03:08] <milardovich> zykotick9, he has a custom theme on his XFCE desktop (he has both GNOME AND XFCE). When he uses GNOME, Nautilus works properly, but when he tries to run Nautilus on XFCE the theme changes suddenly to the default xubuntu-desktop theme
[03:08] <gtristan> penguinman, ah found a utility called 'keyboard'... thanks for your help man
[03:08] <penguinman> no prob
[03:08] <steveGODSchild> it sounds really slow and mono]
[03:08] <b0agn> zykotick9: I was playing around with my own network manager, which was a gtk+ front end for net-tools, sysctl, macchanger etc, but i never got the stage ofcompiling and distributing.
[03:08] <WACOMalt> I guess I need a printout not just of devices, but of output ports
[03:08] <gtristan> penguinman, it's been getting on my nerves, usually use mostly keynav and it kept popping up ;-)
[03:09] <zykotick9> b0agn: gtk = i'm not interested.  i'm looking for a cli wireless app, thus wicd-curses (with no Desktop Manager installed).
[03:09] <milardovich> WACOMalt, so just use lspci
[03:09] <steveGODSchild> could it be the cd rom needs cleaned
[03:09] <milardovich> without the | grep part
[03:10] <b0agn> zykotick9: there are tools besides wicd for that.
[03:10] <WACOMalt> uh, thats listing everything, not just audio
[03:10] <WACOMalt> Im trying to find audio PORTS, not audio devices apparantly.
[03:10] <zykotick9> b0agn: like what?  (there aren't it's either N-M which needs a DM, or manual - which would SUCK for wireless cafe etc!)
[03:10] <WACOMalt> essentially Im tyring to find out which item from that java output is the one I am using for my pnboard headphone jack.
[03:11] <WACOMalt> *onboard
[03:11] <b0agn> zykotick9: we have these things called scripts, which make manual not so manual.
[03:12] <bjrohan> How does one install linux from a USB drive while on a running linux system when said system won't boot via usbdrive
[03:12] <milardovich> WACOMalt, try with Port instead of Audio
[03:12] <WACOMalt> ok
[03:13] <WACOMalt> port is CPU ports
[03:13] <zykotick9> milardovich: sidenote, i'd recommend suggesting "... | grep -i foo" incase the reciever doesn't realise case matters!
[03:14] <WACOMalt> I know case matters :P
[03:14] <zykotick9> i before e, except after c ;)
[03:14] <milardovich> zykotick9, you're right, I had forgotten the -i statement, I don't use bash so often xD
[03:14] <WACOMalt> oh when sounding like hay as in neighbor or weigh
[03:15] <WACOMalt> :D
[03:15] <zykotick9> milardovich: i pretty much use -i always with grep, makes life a lot easier
[03:16] <WACOMalt> ok so no one knows how I can find out which audio device from the java printout is what I'm using in Ubuntu?
[03:18] <opakavic> WACOMalt: i think you need to peek in to java channel for this
[03:18] <opakavic> There is nothing to do with java here
[03:19] <WACOMalt> Ok,  I did but they we're extremely mean...
[03:19] <WACOMalt> I'll try again.
[03:27] <WACOMalt> yup... #java is downright useless for this. Guess I gotta try them one by one until one works
[03:32] <nyxynyx> Hi, I installed nginx 1.2.3 from ppa repo, the output says its grabbing uginx 1.2.3, but after installaion, nginx -v says its still 1.1.19! How strange! How can I get 1.2.3?
[03:39] <WACOMalt> in a sh script what character tells it to skip a space? or not consider it the end of a command?
[03:39] <trism> nyxynyx: maybe: sudo apt-get upgrade; it seems nginx doesn't depend on a specific version of nginx-light or nginx-full so maybe it didn't pull them in
[03:39] <WACOMalt> \ or / ?
[03:39] <RiXtEr> \
[03:39] <WACOMalt> kk thanks
[03:39] <RiXtEr> Np
[03:41] <WACOMalt> ok, this is completely above my level of knowledge... Im tyring to edit a schell script that controlls subsonic music player
[03:41] <WACOMalt> to point it to the proper java address of my audio device.
[03:41] <trism> nyxynyx: otherwise check apt-cache policy for the version you have installed (nginx-light or nginx-full)
[03:41] <WACOMalt> is it likely that pointing it to Pulse Audio Mixer woudl work?
[03:45] <WACOMalt> YES! I GOT IT!   by sheer luck!   :) thanks everyone for your help.
[03:45] <jayar> anyone know an .m4p converter for ubuntu?
[03:46] <MrWilly> is there a way to tell grub what I'd like to boot into ahead of time?  for some reason I don't see my grub menu during boot, even after removing the splash
[03:46] <akis> Hi all. I had the same problem described here: http://linuxforums.org.uk/index.php?topic=1422.0 . I followed the advises and although seems that the wireless card is loaded still cannot scan wireless networks and cannot manually connect to my router although i make it free from every security keys! The chip is Ipn 2220 and I have read almost everything around the net gogling for hours. I think that the device is like to be locked and needs a
[03:46] <akis> command to be unlocked so it could scan networks, because although it's present cannot scan. Any idea or advise?
[03:47] <rocheux> for the time in grub
[03:47] <rocheux> sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:48] <rocheux> timeout 10
[03:48] <rocheux> Mrwilly
[03:48] <rocheux> Is what are you looking for?
[03:48] <songliang> say ican't use it
[03:49] <nyxynyx> trism: ok i'll try that, thanks
[03:49] <MrWilly> rocheux, timeout was set to 10 already, but the HIDDEN_TIMEOUT was 0.  apparently they're two different options.
[03:50] <MrWilly> alright, going to go run a memtest now (hopefully)
[03:54] <rocheux> MrWilly after that you had to update-grub
[03:54] <rocheux> GRUB_DEFAULT=4
[03:54] <rocheux> GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0
[03:54] <rocheux> GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true
[03:54] <rocheux> #GRUB_TIMEOUT=3
[03:54] <FloodBot1> rocheux: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:01] <q0_0p> is it possible to install ubuntu natively on android phone?
[04:03] <arooni-mobile> how do i set the media keys on my t420 ubuntu 12.04 laptop set to clementines shortcuts??
[04:11] <paulus68> q0_0p: try this http://androlinux.com/android-ubuntu-development/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-android/
[04:14] <q0_0p> paulus68: this one looks better http://www.droid-life.com/2012/08/09/ubuntu-for-android-gets-shown-off-and-detailed-we-want-this-as-soon-as-possible/
[04:14] <q0_0p> paulus68: doesn't look like he is using VNC
[04:14] <q0_0p> paulus68: looks like native ubuntu.
[04:15] <paulus68> q0_0p: just gave you the first link that I found with google
[04:30] <wilee-nilee> The app for running that is in the google play center
[04:32] <wilee-nilee> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zpwebsites.linuxonandroid&hl=en
[04:34] <afallenhope> Hey guys I just did an update and now my screen is black with the words "starting" and it's not going past there
[04:38] <siavashserver> afallenhope: Do you remember which packages were being updated?
[04:38] <ajacom> Hi... I'm trying to install Ubuntu 12.04 LTC on Dual boot with Windows 8. It detects win and prompts "Install alongside of...", but after all goes smoothly, the bootloader doesn't show up. I tried manual partitioning, same thing. What could be wrong? HDD is 1TB maybe /boot is out of the boot sector?
[04:40] <penguinman> doesn't really matter since /boot is just stage 2 of grub.
[04:40] <penguinman> stage one gets installed straight in the mbr usually by default.
[04:41] <ajacom> I've tried three times, but nothing. Just sweeps through to windows.
[04:42] <penguinman> windows 8 may do something different with the bootloader than 7 does.
[04:42] <adoniscik> does anyone know what package to install for GSL's development files?
[04:42] <penguinman> in ubuntu it's usually the package name with a trailing -dev
[04:43] <ghostnik11> hi i can not figure out why my fan is constantly on and why my battery is going down so fast, it seems their is something in my laptop making the cpu over work but, when i check top command i see nothing out of the ordinary, here is pastebin: http://pastebin.com/6piqGrua
[04:43] <adoniscik> pm: I tried it but my package would not compile; it complains about gsl.c. Does libgsl-dev really have it?
[04:44] <adoniscik> where can I look to see what files are contained in a particular package?
[04:44] <penguinman> have you tried running locate gsl.c and comparing it with where the compiler is looking for it?
[04:44] <adoniscik> before downloading it, that is
[04:44] <wilee-nilee> ajacom, You can use the live cd to generate a bootscript and post the text in a pastebin. http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[04:44] <adoniscik> pm: yes, locate failed
[04:45] <afallenhope> Okay I seemed to have fixed my problem by going into a shell and removing the  ia32-libs-multiarch but now when I rebooted now I keep getting errors
[04:46] <afallenhope> "internal 12.10
[04:46] <penguinman> it may be named something else, ie gsl-3.0.x.c or something similar. try locate gsl | grep -i .c
[04:46] <AshenStar> okay, I am trying to get the most recent version of Flash installed.  First I used Synaptics but it didn't work.  Then I downloaded the tar.gz, unpacked, and copied libflashplayer.so to my plugins.  Firefox is not recognizing it at all.  I did check to see if the file was unpacked and it was.  Any suggestions please?
[04:46] <wilee-nilee> !12.10
[04:47] <afallenhope> I joined there
[04:48] <wilee-nilee> afallenhope, It is really slow here and there as well.
[04:50] <Guest59900> why does `/bin//sh` execute a sh?
[04:51] <Guest59900> how does the double // get interpreted?
[04:51] <nyxynyx> Is there a problem with the security repo? I'm deploying a server now and its stuck at fetching its headers during a apt-get update
[04:51] <adoniscik> pm: thanks, sorted.
[04:52] <dsnyders> Hi all!  The numbers at the start of the lines in /var/log/dmesg... are they a time sequence? ie seconds since booting?
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[05:01] <blackshirt> morning
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> howto completly remove zeitgeist so unity dash wont crash?
[05:03] <blackshirt> you can remove it through normal tool for packages management
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> blackshirt:i found activity-log-manager in software centre but it says not installed
[05:05] <blackshirt> search for zeitgeist
[05:05] <penguinman> apt-get purge zeitgeist-core will pull it
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> penguinman:tnx lemme try that mate
[05:06] <ElixirVitae> Hello!
[05:06] <blackshirt> hello elixirvitae
[05:07] <ElixirVitae> I feel somewhat bad coming here only if I have questions
[05:07] <ElixirVitae> then, again, there is ubuntu-chat
[05:07] <blackshirt> haha
[05:07] <blackshirt> !ask
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> penguinman:its removing all the relevant zeitgeist packages tnx alot mate
[05:07] <McDickChunk> as an occasional lurker, I feel terrible when I see a question. And never answer it
[05:07] <home> someone teach me how to transfer files from my Windows computer to my Linux computer via SSH
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> !ssh | home
[05:08] <home> Xubuntu, in this case
[05:08] <blackshirt> !scp
[05:08] <home> lotuspsychje, I want you to guide me, step by step
[05:08] <ElixirVitae> !botsnack
[05:08] <penguinman> lotuspsychje, keep in mind rhythmbox has it as a dep so on next update it may be reinstalled. may want to pull rhythmbox as well
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> home:the url cant be more precise.read up mate
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> penguinman:tnx mate i dont use rythmbox, will it have no conflict with dash search?
[05:09] <home> for example, Let's say that I have a file located at C:\Users\Awesome\My Documents\xx.png
[05:09] <home> How would I transfer that via scp
[05:09] <home> or ssh?
[05:09] <home> to my xubuntu box? at its document folder?
[05:09] <RiXtEr> home, scp uses the ssh protocol
[05:09] <home> okay
[05:09] <RiXtEr> home, download winscp
[05:09] <penguinman> may cause problems with the media search lens. honestly i use dwm so i can't tell you for 100%
[05:10] <home> RiXtEr, can I use Putty?
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> penguinman:ill find out quickly when i reboot :p
[05:10] <RiXtEr> home, not for file transfers as far as I know
[05:10] <RiXtEr> home, you could setup samba
[05:10] <Hussaind> hello
[05:10] <home> 0_0
[05:10] <home> what if I am far away?
[05:10] <home> in a distant place?
[05:10] <Hussaind> i wanted some help on openoffice
[05:10] <RiXtEr> home, winscp then
[05:10] <home> Hussaind, whats up?
[05:11] <home> use libreoffice :D
[05:11] <Hussaind> i wanted download oppenoffice drawer
[05:11] <blackshirt> rixter, i think home want to use ssh protocol
[05:11] <Hussaind> but unable
[05:11] <RiXtEr> winscp does use the ssh protocol
[05:11] <Hussaind> im using a 32bit system
[05:11] <ElixirVitae> So, regarding the question business, why are some packages are kept back as I see when I apt-get upgrade, I see "linux-generic-pae linux-headers-generic-pae linux-image-generic-pae" for instance, are they updated with new release of OS or something?
[05:12]  * lotuspsychje sudo reboot
[05:12] <home> ElixirVitae, not sure
[05:12] <home> hey guys
[05:12] <sambagirl> there is a program that you can use on boot to identify hardware
[05:12] <home> should I try Ubuntu again
[05:12] <home> or is it shitty now :/
[05:12] <sambagirl> what is it called hdt? lht?
[05:12] <sambagirl> 0something like that?
[05:13] <blackshirt> sambagirl, what you mean?
[05:13] <RiXtEr> home, you could also download pscp from http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html and use the command pscp c:\path\to\file user@ip.to.ssh.serv:/path/to save
[05:13] <RiXtEr> home, winscp just gives you a nice gui frontend to do the exact same thing.
[05:13] <home> RiXtEr, did winscp
[05:13] <RiXtEr> home, both use the ssh protocol
[05:13] <sambagirl> some distros have this utility that will identify in detail every single piece of hardware on your system
[05:13] <home> RiXtEr, thanks for the information though
[05:13] <RiXtEr> home, no problem
[05:13] <sambagirl> it's much much more deeper than lspci cause it is on boot
[05:14] <home> dmesg?
[05:14] <blackshirt> sambagirl, lspci for pci devices, lsusb for usb, lshw maybe you want
[05:14] <sambagirl> no it isnt a shell app
[05:14] <home> sambagirl, are you actually a girl?
[05:14] <home> lol
[05:14] <sambagirl> it's a boot up
[05:15] <sambagirl> i'll figure it out
[05:15] <sambagirl> night
[05:15] <RiXtEr> sambagirl, boot loader, or a startup app?
[05:15] <sambagirl> its a startup app
[05:15] <sambagirl> it's bvery very very thorough
[05:15] <RiXtEr> sambagirl, look in /etc/init.d
[05:15] <sambagirl> it's not included with ubuntu
[05:15] <RiXtEr> ah
[05:15] <sambagirl> i used it on Mageia
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> penguinman:it worked like a charm mate, activity-log-manager icon dissapeared correclty, no dash crash tnx again mate
[05:15] <sambagirl> but it is for hardware determination
[05:15] <sambagirl> understand?
[05:15] <RiXtEr> sambagirl, somewhat
[05:16] <RiXtEr> sambagirl, udev?
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> !zeitgeist > lotuspsychje
[05:16] <sambagirl> it's a hardware identifier for anything
[05:16] <sambagirl> nevermind thanks
[05:16] <RiXtEr> sambagirl, good luck
[05:16] <penguinman> lotuspsychje, no problem man
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> penguinman:might be interesting to have that info on triggers here
[05:17] <RiXtEr> gnight
[05:18] <home> winscp worked great
[05:18] <home> but its not letting my access root...
[05:19] <RiXtEr> home, did you give it root credentials?
[05:19] <somsip> home: and make sure root access is allowed in /etc/ssh/sshd_config (I think) on the target machine
[05:19] <RiXtEr> home, it still must respect linux filesystem attributes.
[05:20] <home> yep
[05:20] <home> somsip, thats probably the problem...let me check the config :)
[05:20] <home> you know
[05:20] <home> I got told that #ubuntu was pretty crappy
[05:20] <home> but you guys are decent
[05:20] <home> at night I guess
[05:20] <home> haha
[05:20] <FloodBot1> home: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:20] <somsip> home: I can't rememeber if the default is on or off. You'll find out
[05:20] <RiXtEr> ;)
[05:21] <penguinman> home, as far as linux irc support goes, this room is very decent lol
[05:21] <RiXtEr> home, PermitRootLogin  yes is default
[05:21] <RiXtEr> umopapisdn is upsidedown
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> whats the chan to make trigger requests?
[05:22] <somsip> !brain | lotuspsychje
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> somsip:tnx
[05:22] <sambagirl> home just change the config so you can login as root
[05:22] <sambagirl> i did that way long ago
[05:22] <home> I dont see it
[05:23] <home> in the ssh_config file
[05:23] <home> that option, anyway
[05:23] <RiXtEr> home then add PermitRootLogin yes to /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[05:23] <RiXtEr> home, wrong file
[05:23] <sambagirl> n9o no no
[05:23] <home> RiXtEr, yeah, thats right
[05:23] <RiXtEr> home, ssh_config isn't sshd_config
[05:23] <RiXtEr> they are different
[05:23] <home> I know
[05:23] <home> lol
[05:24] <RiXtEr> ah :)
[05:24] <home> thanks though
[05:24] <home> going to restart ssh
[05:24] <home> and see if it works now :)
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> somsip:howto make request on that url
[05:24] <sambagirl> this is how you enable root account https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[05:24] <smatic> Ssh very noche
[05:24] <sambagirl> i did that cause i was tired of fighting
[05:24] <somsip> lotuspsychje: no idea
[05:26] <sambagirl> hdt hardware detection tool..maybe that is it
[05:28] <home> meh
[05:28] <home> another day
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> home:read up the url mate
[05:28] <home> just lazy
[05:28] <home> as hell
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> home:this isnt the right place for lazyness
[05:29] <home> just lazT
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> home:ask detailed questions, but dont go wine
[05:29] <home> laazzzy
[05:29] <home> lol
[05:29] <home> I should clean my monitor
[05:29] <RiXtEr> heh
[05:36] <_numbers> i have been getting old notices one-at-a-time every second for several minutes. how can i flush the libnotify queue?
[05:39] <ch33z> hello
[05:39] <zteblade> hi
[05:41] <ch33z> is there any way at all to install Linux and dual boot it on mac? ;0
[05:41] <zteblade> !mac
[05:42] <ch33z> does go for all distros?
[05:42] <ch33z> this*
[05:43] <somsip> ch33z: it's a ubuntu support channel. You need to ask elsewhere about other distors
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> ch33z:and we recommend ubuntu for you to use :p
[05:47] <ch33z> lol o
[05:47] <ch33z> that link doesnt help
[05:48] <ch33z> it doesnt say how to install it haha
[05:48] <ghostnik11> has anyone ever went to ami website and got a bios update through them istead of OEM
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> ghostnik11:is your question ubuntu related?
[05:52] <ghostnik11> lotuspsychje: i am trying to fix my fan constantly running and i figure the solution was to update the bios
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> ghostnik11:plz try ##hardware channel
[05:53] <ghostnik11> lotuspsychje: thanks will do, sorry about that, that channel is in freenode also?
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> ghostnik11:yes mate
[05:54] <ghostnik11> lotuspsychje: thanks bro
[06:03] <imadper> Hi, all. is there a web-based page can check current version of a package of ubuntu?
[06:04] <zteblade> !packages
[06:05] <imadper> zteblade: thank you.   :)
[06:05] <atrius> stupid question time... is there any way to install skype on a 64bit machine and not trigger over 200 dependencies?
[06:05] <ch33z> lololol
[06:05] <ch33z> n00b
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> atrius:go to skype website: they got skype 64bit
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> ch33z:stop that
[06:06] <ch33z> stop what? ;0
[06:06] <ch33z> youre a n00b its not bad
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> !language | ch33z
[06:06] <atrius> lotuspsychje: did that.. they have something listed as 64bit.. i downloaded it.. it immediately demanded installing the 200 32bit dependencies.. which i thought was odd for a supposedly 64bit app... :D
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> atrius:on wich ubuntu version are you?
[06:07] <ch33z> how is n00b a bad word?
[06:07] <crizis> atrius, why it's strange? unless you have KDE installed, you're likely missing Qt and all the stuff related to it (skype is a QT app
[06:07] <crizis> *Qt
[06:07] <atrius> lotuspsychje: mint (not "real" ubuntu, i know)
[06:08] <atrius> crizis: true.. so i'd expect QTish dependencies.. but not 200+ i386 packages, no?
[06:08] <zteblade> !mint
[06:08] <crizis> and mint is not supported here
[06:08] <ch33z> heh
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> atrius:we recommend you install ubuntu precise 12.04.1 clean, it will rock your system
[06:09] <atrius> lotuspsychje: and i might do that at some point as i'm not totally sold on mint (they do weird things)... but for now.. is the same behavior present on ubuntu proper?
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> atrius:running precise 12.04.1 64bit myself and skype works like a charm
[06:11] <atrius> huh... the 32bit version is the "recommended" one on ubuntu's page
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> atrius: 64bit works very nice aswell
[06:12] <crizis> server version recommends 64bit by default :-)
[06:12] <atrius> lotuspsychje: indeed.. that's why i'm a bit surprised that the 32bit one is the recommended one
[06:12] <crizis> there are still cpu's out there that are not 64 bit capable, like a lot of netbooks
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> atrius:plz try precise 64bit it will make life easier :p
[06:12] <vanity> 32bit was recommended befor 10.04
[06:13]  * lotuspsychje always liked ubuntu 64bit
[06:13] <atrius> lotuspsychje: i probably will at some point... unfortunately i can't reload this machine completely right now :(
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> atrius:sorry mate we cant help you with mint
[06:14] <crizis> skype's "64" bit version is likely just 32bit version wrapped with correct :i386 deps
[06:15] <atrius> crizis: that's what i'm thinking given what happens when you try and install it via regular dpkg
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> is it possible to broadcast webcam on a adobe flash site with vlc?
[06:17] <marcus__> what does "Panic occurred, switching back to text mode" mean?
[06:17] <somsip> lotuspsychje: ISTR there are flash SWFs available that do this sort of thing. Bit OT though isn't it ;-)
[06:17] <Vernon> I cannot boot into either the install system on hard drive or try ubuntu without installing. I have tried nomodeset and all I get after it tries to boot is a black screen. I am trying to install on a HP Pavilion g6
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> somsip: its ubuntu related to ask to force webcam with vlc right
[06:19] <Vernon> It is using the integrated graphics off of the 2nd Gen i3.
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> Vernon:did you try xubuntu or lubuntu?
[06:20] <somsip> lotuspsychje: what setup are you wanting to achieve?
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> somsip:well all adobe braodcasting webcam crashes on me..so i was thinking maybe to force it with vlc broadcast, cause tru vlc webcam works flawless
[06:21] <Vernon> I have not, would one of these versions guarantee compatibilty? I am running the 12.04 install
[06:21] <Vernon> It fails at the point it needs to load a login screen.
[06:21] <crizis> Vernon, no, just ignore that suggestion. they all use same installer/livecd tech
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> Vernon:did you try unity2d login?
[06:21] <Vernon> How do I force it to do that?
[06:21] <somsip> lotuspsychje: may be helpful http://wiki.videolan.org/Stream_VLC_to_Website_with_asf_and_Flash
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> somsip:tnx
[06:22] <crizis> Vernon, so you got it installed?
[06:22] <Vernon> Nope, I cannot even load the install page.
[06:22] <Vernon> Tried nomodeset.
[06:23] <Vernon> Fails at the point it needs to load a graphical screen. The splash disappears, and then my screen goes black.
[06:23] <atrius> anyone know off hand why you supposedly need at least 10 servers (6 MAAS) to do the ubuntu cloud thing?
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> Vernon:did you try unity2d
[06:23] <crizis> Vernon, http://askubuntu.com/questions/77006/black-screen-when-booting-up-on-an-hp-pavilion-g6 guessing from this, this particular hp model is pretty much dead end
[06:24] <nmmm> hi
[06:24] <nmmm> have 2 servers, one connects to another, something like HTTP load balancer
[06:24] <nmmm> I often get possible SYN flooding on port 80. Sending cookies.
[06:24] <nmmm> any idea how I can filter this, so it never happen from specific host?
[06:24] <nmmm> and let it happen if unknown hosts connects
[06:24] <nmmm> any idea?
[06:24] <FloodBot1> nmmm: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:24] <crizis> lotuspsychje, he can't try unity2d since X goes blank on the login screen, duh.
[06:25] <nmmm> oh you are a bot ;-)
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> !firewall | nmmm
[06:25] <robertzaccour> who is a bot?
[06:25] <Vernon> crizis: So... I have a machine that is a victim to inccompatabilities? Pretty much a P.O.S?
[06:25] <crizis> Vernon, so it seems, if nomodeset doesn't help
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> Vernon:i would try xubuntu to make sure
[06:26] <nmmm> FloodBot1 is a bot
[06:26] <crizis> lotuspsychje, stop suggestin x/l/whatever buntu please
[06:26] <nmmm> (probably)
[06:26] <Vernon> Do you know if I can install GNOME 3 over xubuntu?
[06:26] <crizis> lotuspsychje, you clearly don't understand that this is kernel/x problem, not a desktop environment problem
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> crizis:how sure are you it wont install properly?
[06:26] <nmmm> ubottu: let me check, I am using iptables directly.
[06:26] <ch33z> vernon haha what a lame name
[06:27] <Vernon> Vernon Von_Hinkelschmidt.
[06:27] <Calinou> Vernon: yes
[06:27] <Vernon> or Vernon VonHinkelschmidt
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> crizis:maybe it compiz crashing on him...
[06:27] <crizis> sigh
[06:27] <crizis> it is not
[06:28] <Vernon> I will give this a shot, and will be back on here if this fails. Does anyone else have any other suggestions than to give up and retry with a different flavor?
[06:28] <crizis> Vernon, these all ubuntu spins run the same kernel and same x version, and this is a kernel problem
[06:28] <crizis> Vernon, that part is pretty clear with 10sec googling
[06:28] <Ascavasaion> When I click on hard disks in PCManFM and it mounts them, it mounts the one fine with access for me, and the other I do not have permissions for.  HOw do I fix that so that I do not have to /media/chown username hardsiskname ?
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> theres no harm on trying ...
[06:28] <crizis> Vernon, in a nutshell from what i gather, intel G6's work with modeset, but AMD versions are hopeless
[06:29] <Vernon> Ahh... Great. There is no workaround then?
[06:29] <Vernon> I have an Intel...
[06:29] <crizis> then nomodeset *should* help
[06:29] <Vernon> That is what I gathered until it literally failed.
[06:30] <crizis> Vernon, it's a shame that ubuntu removed alternate install cd with 12.04.. this would give you text-mode installer
[06:30] <pinguy> did anybody try pinguy os
[06:30] <crizis> Vernon, alternative for now for you would be to install using server install cd and install 'ubuntu-desktop' metapackage afterwards
[06:31] <crizis> Vernon, so, i recommend testing that. a bit harder/longer route, but will give you pretty much the same installation afterwards
[06:31] <Vernon> That might not be a bad idea. Let me see if I can't do that one.
[06:31] <crizis> Vernon, then you can at least try to setup X with real installation :)
[06:32] <Vernon> I am first going to give xubuntu a shot. If this fails, then I will try the server install, and might just give up and go to gentoo to fix this issue.
[06:32] <crizis> Vernon, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1996256 there's also something related to G6, it's kinda bizarre that nomodeset doesn't help for you
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> Vernon:thats the spirit :p
[06:33] <Vernon> I have done ONE successful gentoo install, and that was on my soon to be project machine. PAIN IN THE ROYAL ASS!!!!
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> Vernon:plz keep polite
[06:34] <Vernon> Sorry about that one... Kinda slipped.
[06:35] <Vernon> xubuntu downloading right now. UNetbootin is a godsend to those without extra CD's!
[06:36] <crizis> Vernon, for the future machines, i recommend http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/ ;) saves a lot of trouble to make sure it's certified for ubuntu. also pretty much guarantees general linux support for other distros too
[06:37] <Vernon> According to that list, my project machine, which booted Ubuntu for a little bit, is not listed.
[06:37] <crizis> Vernon, especially i recommend thinkpads, almost every model is fully certified for linux.
[06:37] <crizis> also canonical works directly with lenovo to certify their stuff :-)
[06:38] <Vernon> One of these days, with a little more C and some more Kernel knowlege I am going to write a permanent fix.
[06:39] <crizis> way to go
[06:39] <Vernon> I am going to force the kernel and x server to default to BIOS if the graphics check procedure fails, rather than black screen.
[06:39] <Vernon> Problem is time. I work 50 to 60 hour weeks, and am enrolled in college full time.
[06:39] <crizis> i doubt the fix will be that easy. otherwise it would have been done for sure.
[06:40] <nmmm> I checked the links for syn flood / iptables
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> nmmm:iptables got synflood reject options
[06:41] <nmmm> however what i am looking for is how to switch OFF protection for synflood for specific hosts
[06:41] <Vernon> That is true. I think intel, nvidia, and amd need to release open-source versions of their drivers. What harm is there in releasing these open-source? We purchased the product from them, why can't we get an idea of how it works so that we can write the kernel around this?
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> nmmm:might be interesting to change your external ip too
[06:41] <crizis> Vernon, intel and amd do, nvidia doesn't
[06:41] <nmmm> we have alexa top 1000 site, lots of visitors, 1 server as load balanser , 4 backend
[06:42] <Vernon> Really? Then this issue should be fixed by now..
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> nmmm:on ubuntu server?
[06:42] <crizis> Vernon, the real problem likely is some random cheap chipset, unrelated to intel's stuff. just guessing.
[06:42] <nmmm> some servers are on ubuntu, some on centos
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> !security | nmmm
[06:43] <Vernon> Problem is, you are right.
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> nmmm:might wanna read the security for servers link
[06:44] <nmmm> question is I want synflood off for some hosts
[06:45] <nmmm> I am unable to find how to do it, everywhere is written how to turn syn on
[06:46] <humanonomics> Hi
[06:46] <lesshaste> how do you debug apt-get update? I see Err http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid/main Packages
[06:46] <lesshaste>   404  Not Found
[06:46] <lesshaste> Get: 4 http://security.ubuntu.com lucid-security Release.gpg [198B]
[06:46] <lesshaste> for example
[06:46] <lesshaste> and it later stalls at 99%
[06:47] <humanonomics> I have GIGABYTE 880 GM AMD processor, mother board, and I am running 64 bit ubuntu on it
[06:47] <humanonomics> I am having issues while playing movies, the movie is not smooth
[06:47] <lesshaste> humanonomics: which player?
[06:47] <lesshaste> humanonomics: what resolution/codec movie?
[06:48] <humanonomics> any movie, any resolution
[06:48] <humanonomics> I am usgin VLC
[06:48] <unrar> Hi.
[06:48] <humanonomics> also the default video player in ubuntu give same result
[06:48] <lesshaste> humanonomics: try mplayer with the different -vo options
[06:48] <humanonomics> ok
[06:48] <humanonomics> lemme try
[06:49] <somsip> humanonomics: do you notice any other problems with display - not smooth scrolling, or windows not dragging smmothly?
[06:49] <humanonomics> no other stuff is fine
[06:49] <humanonomics> only have issues with movies, and if the movie size increases, so does the problem
[06:50] <lesshaste> humanonomics: what do you mean by size?
[06:50] <Vernon> Would my computer having a UEFI BIOS have anything to do with my errors from earlier?
[06:50] <unrar> One question, 12.10 will have iTunes Store support on Rhythmbox?
[06:50] <lesshaste> humanonomics: you may be trying to play very high resolution movies encoded in x264?
[06:50] <crizis>  unrar no :P
[06:50] <unrar> But but but
[06:50] <humanonomics> if I play normal CD movie, it is a bit smoother than playing, DVD movies
[06:50] <unrar> I read it somewhere!
[06:50] <humanonomics> and it gets worse with Bluray format
[06:51] <unrar> :'(
[06:51] <crizis> unrar, amazon store + ubuntu one music store
[06:51] <lesshaste> humanonomics: is this off a dvd player!
[06:51] <lesshaste> humanonomics: or from your hard drive?
[06:51] <humanonomics> nopes, it is copied onto my hard disc
[06:51] <unrar> I read something about iTunes podcast support
[06:51] <humanonomics> from my hard drive
[06:51] <lesshaste> what is your graphics card?
[06:52] <lesshaste> humanonomics: ^^
[06:52] <humanonomics> :)
[06:52] <unrar> And other thing, it'll have Unity 6.x wich should have less bugs and be smoother?
[06:52] <humanonomics> Nvidia 2 gb
[06:52] <lesshaste> humanonomics: ok
[06:52] <unrar> And how could I know if I'll run normal version or llvmpipe version?
[06:53] <Vernon> Is ubuntu compatable with computers with the new UEFI BIOS?
[06:54] <unrar> I have a Nvidia 9300M GS 265MB and that unity_test (i don't remember the name) script said I:m able to run Unity 3D
[06:54] <rico74> !list
[06:54] <rico74> ciao  a tutti
[06:55] <unrar> Although window animations make it laggy so i disabled them
[06:56] <Vernon> Is ubuntu 12.04 compatible with UEFI BIOS? I am trying to get to the bottom of my issue...
[06:57] <humanonomics> lesshaste: btw when I play the same movie on windows 7 same config, the movie plays fine.
[06:58] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> Is http://archive.ubuntu.com Down ?
[06:58] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> apt-get    fails
[07:00] <Vernon> Thanks all, but I have to go figure some shit out. This has been one of my harder problems to solve.
[07:01] <somsip> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://archive.ubuntu.com/
[07:01] <ran_> humanonomics, maybe its a driver issue
[07:01] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> thanks
[07:01] <diverdude> where do i find a very basic example init.d script which is not completely bloated like those in /etc/init.d ?
[07:01] <humanonomics> ran_: hmm maybe.
[07:01] <humanonomics> guess might need to wait till there is a driver update
[07:01] <llutz_> diverdude: /etc/init.d/skeleton
[07:02] <llutz_> diverdude: since ubuntu uses upstart, it would be better to check about upstart startscripts than sysv
[07:02] <ran_> you can reinstall the driver
[07:02] <humanonomics> ran_: tried that :)
[07:02] <diverdude> llutz: ok...but i need to be able to stop, start and restart it
[07:02] <humanonomics> ran_: I have even re-installed my ubuntu twice
[07:02] <llutz_> diverdude: check the upstart-cookbook and the scripts in /etc/init
[07:03] <ran_> humanonomics, and reinstalling VLC?
[07:03] <llutz_> diverdude: even upstart-jobs can be controlled using "service foo start/stop/restart/status"
[07:04] <diverdude> llutz: mmm there are a lot of files in /ets/init
[07:04] <llutz_> diverdude: really? :)
[07:04] <humanonomics> ran_: yep done that as well, but the problwem does not seem with vlc, as I have used mplayer, GNOME mplayer as well, same result, guess it has to do something with graphics acceleration
[07:04] <ran_> humanonomics: how games are running?
[07:04] <TJ-> Unity notification pop-up background colour has changed to light-grey since logging in using XFCE4 log-in instead of Unity. Any ideas what setting that will have altered?
[07:04] <diverdude> llutz: no upstrat cookbook though
[07:05] <humanonomics> ran_: not much of a game fan, haven't tried playing any games.
[07:05] <llutz_> diverdude: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook
[07:06] <ran_> humanonomics: thats a weird problem.
[07:07] <humanonomics> ran_: it sure is :)
[07:08] <ran_> humanonomics: the only thing left is to replace the video card, but thats not practical.
[07:09] <humanonomics> one thing I noticed though, that when I try to install additional drivers (ATI/AMD propreitary FGLRX graphics driver (post-release updates) through System settings --> Additional Drivers, the update fails
[07:09] <humanonomics> ran_: not an issue with graphic card as it is working absolutely fine in windows 7
[07:10] <DNX> hi guys. How can I limit the speed of a already existing connection. I upload a video with chrome, was uploaded 1gb and 2gb must be uploaded. How can I limit the connection now?
[07:11] <ran_> humanonomics: thats what makes this problem so weird.
[07:11] <gypsymauro> hi, I need dapper repository , where can I find them?
[07:12] <nina666> hi... I have a silly question, but as silly as is, its giving me headache!! I've copied a folder from another user on my pc to desktop of current user using root ofcourse. now, I have permission problem! although I changed owner and group of the dir and its files using chown -R, but I still have permission problems!!! how to solve this?!
[07:14] <nina666> when using current user I run 'ls -l', i get: -????????? ? ? ? ?            ?
[07:14] <nina666> what the H is question marks doing on my permissions?!
[07:19] <geirha> nina666: Typically a symptom of a corrupt filesystem. Best run a filesystem check.
[07:22] <ran_> humanonomics: when you playing a video, there is nothing else running that needs graphics acceleration?
[07:25] <cindyasarisuratn> what?
[07:27] <cindyasarisuratn> hello :)
[07:34] <kobra> help with fullscreen in virtualbox?
[07:34] <somsip> kobra: have you installed the addons in the virtual machine?
[07:34] <kobra> the guest additions, yes
[07:35] <somsip> kobra: that's the only obvious one I know. You may be better in #vmware (I think) if noone else here can answer
[07:35] <kobra> somisp: ok thanks
[07:37] <tiox> Ubuntu 12.04-1, revisiting a problem to see if there has been an update -- I have an LG Turbo 3G USB modem with TruInstall software installer for AT&T Communication Manager.
[07:38] <tiox> It's basically a ZeroCD device. This always worked in Ubuntu 11.04, but nonetheless fails me in Ubuntu 12.xx
[07:39] <tiox> The config file for usb_modeswitch exists, complete with my vendor and product IS, yet no joy.
[07:39] <FLeiXiuS> Any suggestions for getting gesture multitouch on 12.10?
[07:40] <adoniscik> how can you change with monitor guake appears on?
[07:42] <phr> guys, i'm having a silly question. i want to make a bootable usb with 3 linux distributions and i'd like to select which one to install.. how can i do that? is this possible? thanks for any info
[07:45] <tiox> phi: There are various utilities that will allow you to do this. One in particular is the MultiCD script.
[07:45] <tiox> If you want to get really techy with it, just unpack the contents of the ISO fiiles you want to use, then configure GRUB by hand.
[07:46] <tiox> Should do it, anyway, unless things get more involved -- You want to try and use GRUB or another bootloader to chain-load into the bootloader for the system in particular.
[07:56] <gauravgrt1> i am trying to install canon lbp2900 in ubuntu 12.04 using http://goo.gl/Ciip4 this official guide ...in it it says to comment some lines iin blacklist-cups-usblp.conf which sadly doesn't exist for me ...maybe the reason the printer doesn't work for this reason
[07:59] <phr> tiox thank you for the info. i'll try that
[07:59] <gauravgrt1> can anyone help me install canon lbp2900b on my ubuntu 12.04 ...i followed all the steps but it doesn't work for me
[08:01] <geirha> gauravgrt1: grep usblp /etc/modprobe.d/*   # it that doesn't output anything, it's not blacklisted, so there's nothing to un-blacklist
[08:02] <geirha> s/# it/# if/
[08:03] <geirha> gauravgrt1: Possibly, the blacklisting of usblp that the guide talks about has been reverted in a later update
[08:04] <DevilsReject> \join #officeone
[08:05] <Ascavasaion> In the file manager there are a list of other hard disks, not the booting partition.  I have a 20Gb an a 60Gb.  Then you click on them they are mounted by the file manager.  Problem I have is that 20Gb mounts with fulla ccess to me, but 60Gb does not.  I have to go into a terminal and issue /media/sudo chown username 60Gb and then it gives me access,  Any help please?
[08:05] <gauravgrt1> geirha : ok..the printer does nothing ...the printer status says processing ...
[08:07] <gauravgrt1> geirha :should i reinstall all the drivers as when i was installing the drivers my printer was connected to the laptop...
[08:08] <AdvoWork> I have rsynced some files from another server to my new server in /opt/test and need to transfer these to /opt/new on the same server, is there a specific way I need to move these files to keep the same permission as i rsynced across(and not take hours to move) as there are gigs and gigs of data.
[08:08] <geirha> gauravgrt1: I don't think that would matter. But I'm afraid I have no experience with that printer, so I can't help much.
[08:12] <geirha> AdvoWork: use rsync again
[08:13] <geirha> rsync -a /opt/test/ /opt/new/
[08:14] <Ascavasaion> In the file manager there are a list of other hard disks, not the booting partition.  I have a 20Gb an a 60Gb.  Then you click on them they are mounted by the file manager.  Problem I have is that 20Gb mounts with fulla ccess to me, but 60Gb does not.  I have to go into a terminal and issue /media/sudo chown username 60Gb and then it gives me access,  Any help please?
[08:15] <geirha> Ascavasaion: That command doesn't look valid, but what filesystem is on the 60G?
[08:15] <Ascavasaion> geirha:ext4... the commandline is not my problem... it is the filemanager that is mounting it with the incorrect permissions.
[08:16] <mtrd`w> Hello everyone! I'd like to migrate from Gnome to XFCE, i'm currently running Ubuntu 12.04 fully updated. I've came across this page, when looking for a way to do it http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexubuntu Does anybody has experience with this method ? Any known issues or better ways to do that ? Thank you :)
[08:17] <ewook> hum hum. anyone got any clue on dm-crypt/luks with etokens/yubikey? well, non openPGP-tokens preferably.
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> mtrd`w: just install  xfce4 and log off, then log off and log in to the new session
[08:17] <mtrd`w> ActionParsnip: alright, thank you :)
[08:18] <Ascavasaion> geirha: What I need is what I imagine would be a fstab file used for mounting via the filemanager.
[08:18] <crizis> mtrd`w, if you want full xubuntu, just install 'xubuntu-desktop' metapackage
[08:18] <geirha> Ascavasaion: The mount cannot change ownership or permissions of an ext4 filesystem. You really do need to chown it. Though once you have chowned it, it'll be permanently so
[08:18] <mtrd`w> crizis: okay, thank you :)
[08:19] <Ascavasaion> geirha: but what is other users log in under their own accounts?
[08:19] <geirha> Ascavasaion: They'll likely have no access since it's owned by you
[08:20] <Ascavasaion> geirha: Exactly... so how do I get it to mount like the others that work fine?
[08:20] <geirha> Ascavasaion: If you want others to have access, create a group, add them and yourself as members of that group, give the group the proper permissions for the files on that filesystem
[08:21] <Ascavasaion> geirha: I hear you, but the other hard disk mounts just fine per user.
[08:21] <AdvoWork> geirha, won't that take ages, or would it be instant?
[08:21] <geirha> Ascavasaion: And what filesystem does that one have?
[08:21] <Ascavasaion> geirha: Also ext4
[08:22] <geirha> AdvoWork: It's a copy operation, so depends on the speed of the harddrive(s) involved
[08:22] <llutz_> AdvoWork: you may use "mv", it preserves permissions if possible
[08:22] <AdvoWork> geirha, ahh, well its on the same file system and pretty much the same location, but the initial transfer took hours, as its 300GB
[08:22] <geirha> AdvoWork: Ah, you wanted to move. then mv /opt/test /opt/new  # though make sure /opt/new doesn't already exist
[08:23] <chiliblue> Hello, evolution and google calendars? has something changed. I  seem to have lost mine. Can some body point me to a howto that is upto date?
[08:23] <geirha> AdvoWork: A simple rename like that should be instant and atomic
[08:23] <geirha> Ascavasaion: Then it probably has laxer permissions set
[08:23] <Ascavasaion> geirha: laxer?
[08:24] <bepebe> how can I set a system wide proxy?
[08:24] <geirha> Ascavasaion: as in "relaxed", less strict. Anyway, I recommend you read http://mywiki.wooledge.org/Permissions
[08:24] <AdvoWork> geirha, what if new already exists(which it will actually)?
[08:24] <Ascavasaion> geirha: Um, okay, thank you.
[08:25] <geirha> AdvoWork: Then you will end up with /opt/new/test
[08:25] <geirha> AdvoWork: or an error if /opt/new is not a directory
[08:26] <geirha> AdvoWork: so perhaps you want:  shopt -s dotglob; mv /opt/test/* /opt/new/
[08:26] <llutz_> shouldn't "mv /opt/test/*.* /opt/new" do?
[08:27] <llutz_> dotglob, that it is...
[08:27] <erlan> h
[08:27] <Bhavesh> Can I install and run Google Chrome as a non-root user on Ubuntu 10.04?
[08:28] <crizis> install, no, run, yes
[08:28] <geirha> bepebe: Add a  http_proxy=... line in /etc/environment
[08:28] <humanonomics> ran_: nopes, only the video
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> Bhavesh: yes, that is the default behaviour
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> Bhavesh: all apps run as user, unless you use gk/sudo
[08:29] <bepebe> geirha, thanks will give that a try
[08:29] <geirha> Bhavesh: Well, you can install it in your homedir, but it's a bit cumbersome to do
[08:29] <Bhavesh> ActionParsnip: okay
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> Bhavesh: you will need sudo apcces etc to install the package though
[08:29] <bepebe> geirha, do i need to reload anything after I have entered my proxy settings?
[08:29] <geirha> bepebe: It is read when a user logs in
[08:30] <bepebe> I am botting from a livecd at the moment, to test on a work system before I install, do I need to log in and out, is this even possible on the livecd and still retain the settings?
[08:30] <Bhavesh> ActionParsnip: I am on a college computer where I cannot watch videos on its default mozilla. I was trying to install chrome as it has its own inbuilt flash player.
[08:30] <Niarf> hi
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> Bhavesh: you may be able to download the deb, extract it and run it from there
[08:30] <geirha> bepebe: Yes, the username is "ubuntu" and the password is either blank or "ubuntu" iirc
[08:31] <Bhavesh> ActionParsnip: it looks like something is stopping me from downloading the .deb
[08:31] <Niarf> anyone has this error : dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.Accounts.Error.Failed: not access to HOME yet so language not saved ??
[08:31] <bepebe> geirha, kk thanks
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> Bhavesh: if the admins have not installed flash, you can put libflashplugin.so in ~/.mozilla/plugins  and you will get flash
[08:31] <crizis> Bhavesh, read-only file system?-)
[08:31] <Bhavesh> oh nice
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> Bhavesh: or whatever the file is called, you get the idea. Works sort of similarly in Windows too
[08:32] <llutz_> Bhavesh: or get the chrome.tar.gz from google, install it inside your $HOME.
[08:34]  * Bhavesh copied libflashplayer.so to home/.mozilla/plugins, restarting mozilla
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> Niarf: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[08:35] <Niarf> ActionParsnip: precise
[08:35] <Niarf> it's a fresh install
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> !bug 846572
[08:36] <Bhavesh> ActionParsnip: Thanks, it worked :)
[08:36] <Niarf> we use homedir over kerberized nfs
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> Bhavesh: its a cheeky work around :). You can do a similar trick in windows too
[08:37] <cindyasarisuratn> hiii
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> Niarf: is the system fully updated?
[08:37] <Bhavesh> ActionParsnip: The only problem is loads of website blocked by our college
[08:37] <Niarf> no ActionParsnip, gnome-language-selector doesn't crash
[08:38] <Bhavesh> ActionParsnip: They keep on blocking as many proxy websites they find
[08:38] <Niarf> hum, 2 days back on my own mirror
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> Niarf: tried:  sudo apt-get --reinstall install gnome-language-selector
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> Niarf: also try the steps here
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> !bug 1018621
[08:39] <Niarf> ActionParsnip: as i can see, it can read .profile in my homedir
[08:39] <Niarf> i do a "touch .profile" yesterday
[08:40] <Niarf> your apt-get doesn't work :) gnome-language-selector is not a package
[08:40] <Wizard> Good morning!
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> Niarf: could try renaming yours then copy the one from /root and chown it to your username
[08:41] <Niarf> ActionParsnip: it's an empty file
[08:41] <Niarf> i see your last bug, it doesn't work
[08:41] <cindyasarisuratn> so bored
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> Niarf: mine isn't
[08:42] <Niarf> yes ActionParsnip
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> Niarf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1274561/
[08:43] <Niarf> i set the file as you want, it don't work anymore
[08:43] <Niarf> same error
[08:43] <Niarf> maybe apparmor :(
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> Niarf: what causes the error you see?
[08:46] <FilipeMaia> Hi. I have a problem with nfs4 mounting and uid/gid. I'm using 12.04 and set the Domain in /etc/idmapd.conf
[08:47] <_utmz> hi all.  Doing an update on remote server and am being asked The GRUB boot loader was previously installed to a disk that is no longer present, or whose unique identifier has changed for some reason. It is important to make sure that the installed GRUB core image stays in sync with GRUB modules and grub.cfg. Please check again to make sure that GRUB is written to the appropriate boot devices.  got choice of sda, sdb and md01 - gue
[08:47] <_utmz> ssing sda and sdb - any suggestions
[08:47] <FilipeMaia> Yet I'm getting errors like nss_getpwnam: name 'filipe@localdomain' does not map into domain
[08:47] <FilipeMaia> Is there some other file I need to change?
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> _utmz: are you using raid?
[08:50] <Niarf> ActionParsnip:  i wanna change the language in gnome-language-selector
[08:50] <geirha> Niarf, ActionParsnip: Heh, looking at the patch for that bug with .profile. The code's actually reading the ~/.profile file, looking for lines containing "export LANG=", "export LANGUAGE=", etc...
[08:52] <Niarf> thanks geirha, but it's a patch, so i have to apply in a new package
[08:52] <geirha> That's obviously a bad approach. I wonder what the reasoning would be...
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> Niarf: the GUI probably changes some configs for you, I'llsee if I can find what it does
[08:52] <_utmz> ActionParsnip: yes
[08:52] <geirha> Niarf: It's in -updates
[08:52] <Niarf> i'ave syncing local mirror with fr.archive.ubuntu.com
[08:52] <Niarf> -a
[08:53] <geirha> Niarf: apt-cache policy accountsservice
[08:53] <Niarf>  Installé : 0.6.15-2ubuntu9.3
[08:53] <Niarf>   Candidat : 0.6.15-2ubuntu9.3
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> Niarf: http://askubuntu.com/questions/167965/gnome-language-selector-refuses-to-set-language
[08:53] <geirha> You should've had 9.4 there
[08:54] <RealOpty> Any suggestions on a 'file manager' that would be great for organizing my massive amount of data?
[08:54] <Niarf> arff, i just see it
[08:54] <Niarf> precise 12.04.1 is not even perfect :(
[08:54] <elky> is there no user-friendly way to add a launcher to the unity panel?
[08:55] <awestroke> elky: alacarte
[08:55] <geirha> Niarf: Seems your mirror is out of sync
[08:55] <awestroke> apt it
[08:56] <elky> awestroke, i've been trying that for hours. i can't get the menu item to be in the thing down the left-hand side of the screen
[08:56] <elky> I'm on 12.04
[08:56] <awestroke> elky: you first add it in alacarte. then you press super and search for it. then you drag it to the panel on the left
[08:56] <Niarf> geirha: a first sync seems ok
[08:56] <Niarf> i need to do few of rsync
[08:56] <elky> awestroke, searching does not find it.
[08:56] <geirha> Open the dash (hit Super), search for your new menu entry, drag it to the launcher
[08:57] <cindyasarisuratn> im 16:59
[08:57] <awestroke> elky: did you name it correctly in alacarte?
[08:57] <elky> yes, i named it "restart vpn" and searching for "restart" and "vpn" both fail to find it.
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> Niarf: there is a known bug, so you may have to do it manual style
[08:58] <Niarf> ActionParsnip: manual ?
[08:59] <bittyx-work> hi all. i want to time the output of a command. however i'm not sure about the syntax. say the command is: "mysql dbname < data.sql > data.log" - how would i time this command? the command, when used with quotes as the argument to "time" won't run, but if i just pass it without quotes, how do i know what will be written to data.log - the output of mysql or time?
[08:59] <bittyx-work> thanks in advance
[08:59] <bittyx-work> and when i say "time the output", of course i mean the "execution time"
[08:59] <llutz_> bittyx-work: "time mysql dbname < data.sql > data.log"
[09:00] <llutz_> bittyx-work: "time bash -c "mysql dbname < data.sql > data.log"   sry*
[09:00] <bittyx-work> llutz_: ah, so it is that simple - but how do i know what will be in the data.log file? the output of "mysql", or "time" ?
[09:00] <bittyx-work> llutz_: oh, yeah, that seems like it would work
[09:00] <bittyx-work> llutz_: thank you.
[09:00] <geirha> bittyx-work: time mysql dbname < data.sql > data.log
[09:01] <geirha> the redirections will still apply to mysql. time is special
[09:01] <elky> awestroke, oh cute, i had to reboot the computer to get it to show by searching
[09:02] <FilipeMaia> Where are the upstart scripts installed?
[09:02] <Niarf> geirha: ActionParsnip : i can't see accountservice package in my package list
[09:02] <Madox> is it possible in ubuntu 12.04 to set one proxy config to one (wireless)network? i found only a generell setting for all networks.
[09:02] <geirha> Niarf: missing an s there
[09:02] <Niarf> a new version i can't see
[09:03] <Niarf> yes geirha in irc only
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> Niarf: the application just changes configs in the gnome settings, you can do this sort of thing manually in most cases
[09:03] <Niarf> with gsettings ?
[09:03] <geirha> Niarf: apt-cache policy says you have one installed...
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> Niarf: or text files etc
[09:04] <RealOpty> Any suggestions on a 'file manager' that would be great for organizing my massive amount of data?
[09:04] <Niarf> we use gnome-unity now, in the past, i used gconf-editor
[09:04] <varikonniemi> what does an BUMP ABI mean
[09:05] <varikonniemi> and why does ubuntu keep pushing kernels with the only change of bump abi
[09:05] <Niarf> geirha: it's like ubuntu indexes don't contain 9.4 version
[09:06] <shingara> Bonjour,
[09:07] <shingara> J'ai quelque soucis avec le sourcing de .bashrc/.bash_profile
[09:07] <shingara> entre le ssh et le shell interactive
[09:07] <llutz_> !fr | shingara
[09:07] <shingara> si je passe en ssh shell non-interactive
[09:07] <geirha> Niarf: Well, the mirror I use has it: http://sprunge.us/IEHI
[09:07] <shingara> sorry
[09:07] <shingara> my bad
[09:08] <Niarf> arf geirha, the fr mirror is bad ?
[09:08] <shingara> I some problem with source of .bashrc and .bash_profile with a non-interactive shell from ssh
[09:08] <geirha> Niarf: It must've gone out of sync, yes
[09:08] <shingara> this file are not source in my user
[09:08] <Niarf> ok :(
[09:09] <Niarf> i need a more updated mirror
[09:09] <NET||abuse> hi guys, is it possible to setup a write only sftp with standard openssh server?
[09:09] <geirha> Niarf: Switch to the main server, install updates, switch back
[09:09] <geirha> or wait for your mirror to catch up
[09:09] <NET||abuse> so i have an sftp only setup for a new vm i'm working on , but i'm hoping to prevent the sftp only user from modifying or deleting anything.
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> NET||abuse: your users will authorise as users on the local system, you could set up a user with the data needed to be read and give it read only access to the folder
[09:10] <NET||abuse> but i need the user to be able to upload a file
[09:10] <Niarf> geirha: the main mirror is archive.ubuntu.com ?
[09:10] <geirha> Niarf: yes
[09:10] <NET||abuse> but i don't want them to be able to modify or delete.
[09:11] <Niarf> ok, I will do it :p nice configuration files
[09:11] <FilipeMaia> Did you know that whitespaces in idmapd.conf count?
[09:11] <FilipeMaia> Changing " Domain = localdomain" to "Domain = localdomain" in 12.04 fixed my NFSv4 problems
[09:11] <borivoje> Hi, everyone! I am having problem with gma3600 graphic card in ubuntu.
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> NET||abuse: http://serverfault.com/questions/367044/setting-up-an-sftp-file-dump-site-openssh-or-other-sftpd
[09:12] <borivoje> is it by any means possible to get unity 3d on cedarview
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> NET||abuse: http://superuser.com/questions/469078/linux-prevent-sftp-users-from-deleting-ftpd-files-even-straight-after-they-upl
[09:12] <NET||abuse> ActionParsnip: i'm really hoping not to use proFTP
[09:12] <NET||abuse> just to use the default openssh
[09:14] <borivoje> I googled hundred times, and i still can't find the way to make gma3600 work in 3d mode
[09:15] <blackshirt> gma series? Oh no
[09:15] <borivoje> :)
[09:15] <borivoje> i am using sarvat ppa
[09:15] <MonkeyDust> ah ppa
[09:15] <borivoje> i am really sick of my hardware
[09:15] <borivoje> but don't have money to change it
[09:16] <borivoje> I would really like to get it working
[09:16] <Madox> is it possible in ubuntu 12.04 (or 12.10) to set one proxy config to one (wireless)network? i found only a generell setting for all networks.
[09:16] <ikonia> borivoje: what is cedarview ?
[09:16] <hobbit> I haven't found a way
[09:16] <blackshirt> 3d support for this devices was bad ....
[09:17] <blackshirt> But, maybe you want try 3.6 kernel at least...
[09:17] <borivoje> 3.6 kernel. ok
[09:17] <blackshirt> thats has a good support cedarview
[09:17] <blackshirt> For cedarview graphics
[09:17] <borivoje> I might try
[09:17] <borivoje> but i m sceptical
[09:17] <blackshirt> you should
[09:18] <ikonia> no you don't
[09:18] <ikonia> you don't want to change kernels
[09:18] <borivoje> why not?
[09:18] <borivoje> I have tried many kernels
[09:18] <borivoje> even meego's adaptation pc kernel
[09:18] <borivoje> but still no luck
[09:18] <blackshirt> install the newer kernel,and looks what happen
[09:18] <Dko_> Would someone help me with this problem I have trying to instal Ubuntu?  When I get the installer up and running,  I can move the mouse cursor around, but nothing responds to my mouse clicks and the keyboard doesn't seem to do anything either.
[09:18] <blackshirt> 3.6 above
[09:19] <ikonia> just randomly swapping kernels is not a good idea
[09:19] <ikonia> especially without an understanding of what the actual problem is
[09:19] <borivoje> ikonia you have a point there
[09:19] <borivoje> I didn't read anywhere that 3.6 kernel offers better support for cedarview
[09:20] <borivoje> it's just sooo closed that nobody can approach it
[09:20] <borivoje> but meego works
[09:20] <blackshirt> not the problem you couldn't find it
[09:20] <borivoje> I was wondering if one can help me extract components from there to fix my ubuntu system
[09:20] <ikonia> no
[09:20] <ikonia> that is a bad bad bad idea
[09:21] <ikonia> again you are doing random things without understanding the problem
[09:21] <ikonia> you are trying to fix something you don't know what's broke or why
[09:21] <borivoje> so ikonia, what are the steps to follow
[09:22] <ikonia> work out what's failing and why, then address an approach to fix it
[09:22] <borivoje> i'm not a linux pro
[09:22] <borivoje> although I'm not a newbie
[09:23] <blackshirt> not a practical thing
[09:26] <Niarf> waouhh, 700 MB between archive.ubuntu.com and fr.archive.ubuntu.com
[09:33] <borivoje> I have checked latest 3.6.1 kernel.
[09:33] <borivoje> It still offers experimental support only for gma 3600
[09:34] <Guest58037> Hallo all
[09:35] <ikonia> borivoje: again, why are you looking at changing things without understand what part is letting you down
[09:36] <borivoje> @ikonia, as I have read so far, nothing can make gma3600 work with opengl, except the meego drivers
[09:36] <borivoje> There must be a way to make it work
[09:37] <borivoje> I'm really into this problem
[09:37] <ikonia> borivoje: there are multiple parts to the X11 display process, you need to work out what's failing you and then look at your options
[09:37] <borivoje> I don't know what to do
[09:37] <ikonia> borivoje: not all hardware is supported, in some situations you have to accept the limitations of your hardware until it becomes supported
[09:37] <borivoje> but will it ever?
[09:38] <ikonia> it depends on who releases support,
[09:38] <ikonia> who knows
[09:38] <ikonia> and it depends on what is letting you down
[09:38] <borivoje> I don't know from where to start
[09:38] <ikonia> start what ?
[09:38] <borivoje> solving my problem
[09:38] <borivoje> should i change kernel
[09:38] <borivoje> xorg files
[09:39] <ikonia> no, not random
[09:39] <ikonia> you need to find what's letting you down first
[09:39] <cherva> can I force my webcam to be detected as another model because the first time I connected it it was "USB2.0 Camera (1871:0306)" and it was working ... now it finds it as a "USB2.0 Camera (1871:01f0)" and there is only green screen
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> cherva: do you dual boot?
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> cherva: does it work in cheese?
[09:42] <cherva> ActionParsnip, yes ..
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> cherva: tried: bash -c 'LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so cheese'
[09:43] <cherva> ActionParsnip, the firsttime when it was detected as 1871:0306 it worked now no
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> cherva: did you hibernate the OS?
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> cherva: did you disable power management and disable the ability for the webcam to wake up the OS (if it is an option) in device manager
[09:44] <cherva> ActionParsnip, no I did nothing tested the cam it worked then pluged it in a an embeded linux board and I saw the other version now on my pc it is wrong too
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> cherva: if you unplug the camera and shove it back in, is it ok
[09:45] <cherva> ActionParsnip, no
[09:45] <cherva> ActionParsnip, it is again 01f0
[09:45] <cherva> ActionParsnip, can I make 01f0 devices load the 0306 driver
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> cherva: boot to windows and check the device power settings and so forth
[09:48] <rax-> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[09:48] <rax-> linux-image-2.6.32-44-generic
[09:48] <rax-> I just did this and it didn't generate the /var/run/reboot-required file
[09:48] <rax-> is that normal?
[09:52] <nigelb> what's the command that lets me control my monitors from the commandline?
[09:53] <txthinking> 大家好
[09:54] <Madox> is it possible to set one proxy config per one (wireless)network? thanks
[09:56] <MonkeyDust> Madox  some 400 people in the channel ##networking, better ask there  (double ##)
[09:57] <samuel> hi, i have a problem with wireless networks reappearing in my network connections after they have been deleted
[09:58] <Mechdave> samuel, they will as long as the wireless detects them
[10:00] <samuel> no, this is a network that has been saved
[10:00] <samuel> when i go to network connections and delete it, it reappears in network settings and tries to connect to it
[10:01] <Madox> MonkeyDust: thank you
[10:02] <Guest54997> have a problem with synaptic package manager autoexits after start
[10:03] <Guest54997> any1?
[10:05] <samuel> even though it does not have the authentication key
[10:05] <samuel> oops!
[10:06] <Guest54997> synptic pgk mng exits
[10:06] <samuel> Madox the ssid has some how been remembered in my network settings, and my computer keeps trying to connect to it even though it doesnt have the authentication key
[10:06] <samuel> when i delete it, it reappears
[10:06] <samuel> very annoying
[10:06] <samuel> Guest54997 have you tried running synaptic from the terminal?
[10:07] <Guest54997> yes
[10:07] <Guest54997> it exits
[10:07] <samuel> what is the exit message?
[10:07] <Guest54997> no msg
[10:07] <Guest54997> just dissapair
[10:08] <samuel> well that doesnt leave much to work with does it, perhaps i can suggest a work around, what are you trying to do in synaptic?
[10:08] <Guest54997> ill try fg %1
[10:08] <taleon> hi
[10:08] <Guest54997> core dumped
[10:08] <Guest54997> i got now
[10:09] <samuel> hi taleon
[10:09] <Guest54997> hi hi
[10:09] <Guest54997> :)
[10:09] <pkieszcz> Anyone know how to make 2+ instances of httpd on debians?
[10:11] <rax-> I just updated 10.04 with the following kernel: linux-image-2.6.32-44-generic - It didn't touch /var/run/reboot-required .. is this normal for 10.04 ? My experience of 12.04 seems to suggest something isn't right :\
[10:11] <rollitup> hey folks !!
[10:12] <Mechdave> pkieszcz, just use virtual servers in apache
[10:12] <ineff> Hello every one
[10:12] <MonkeyDust> rax-  12.04 uses 3.2
[10:12] <ineff> does anybody know how to enable xl toolstack on ubuntu 12.04?
[10:13] <rollitup> sometime back i had come across a blog and had learnt how to view the code of any webpages by typing sudo gedit http://www.mysite.com and it would load the gedit with the code of the requested webpage but today when i try it it says operation not permitted
[10:13] <rollitup> am i doing something wrong
[10:14] <somsip> pkieszcz: what are you trying to achieve?
[10:14] <vanity> pkieszcz: see this : usr/share/doc/apache2/README.multiple-instances
[10:14] <pkieszcz> ty guys
[10:14] <vanity> pkieszcz: or http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/RunningMultipleApacheInstances
[10:15] <pkieszcz> Well it's still not my resolution
[10:15] <rax-> MonkeyDust: The issue isn't with the image number but the fact that updating the image version didn't touch /var/run/reboot-required
[10:15] <rax-> image version upgrade*
[10:16] <pkieszcz> i want to make for e.g. httpd-1 httpd-2 httpd-3 instances which everyother instance use other config (i already did this under centos but i don't know how to do it in debian/ubuntu)
[10:17] <pkieszcz> and it's easier to manage them and also it's about performance (for production enviorment)
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> pkieszcz: does making symlinks to the existing httpd not work ?
[10:18] <pkieszcz> ofc not :)
[10:18] <pkieszcz> it still does use 1 config
[10:18] <pkieszcz> and i want every instance to use other config
[10:18] <pkieszcz> you can define it in init.d script
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> pkieszcz: have you checked in the httpd file, it may have lines to specify config file, then you can simply make a copy and edit the line
[10:21] <pkieszcz> well i use something like that
[10:21] <pkieszcz> on centos
[10:21] <pkieszcz> INST=`basename $0`
[10:21] <pkieszcz> OPTIONS="-f conf/$INST.conf"
[10:21] <pkieszcz> apachectl=/usr/sbin/apachectl
[10:21] <pkieszcz> httpd=${HTTPD-/usr/sbin/$INST}
[10:21] <pkieszcz> prog=$INST
[10:21] <pkieszcz> pidfile=${PIDFILE-/var/run/$INST.pid}
[10:21] <pkieszcz> lockfile=${LOCKFILE-/var/lock/subsys/$INST}
[10:21] <pkieszcz> RETVAL=0
[10:21] <pkieszcz> STOP_TIMEOUT=${STOP_TIMEOUT-10}
[10:21] <samuel_atwork> ActionParsnip, you gave me some fabulous advice regarding removing some stubborn networks from network manager, sadly they still refuse to budge i wonder if you could provide me with some more insight?
[10:21] <MonkeyDust> pkieszcz  use pastebinit for more than one line
[10:21] <pkieszcz> ok i will - i'm new to this irc :)
[10:25] <geirha> !upstart | pkieszcz
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> samuel_atwork: you may be able to edit to connections manually
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> samuel_atwork: look in  $HOME/.gconf/system/networking/connections/   maybe
[10:25] <Guest62710> hi, anyone using vodafone dongle on ubuntu..or, where to get the driver?
[10:26] <vectory> using chrome in lubuntu 12.04 without flash, i cant waych any youtube. with fx in ubu 10.04 i had no provlem with html5 videos, whats going on?
[10:29] <samuel_atwork> ActionParsnip, i have looked there but the networks that i wish to delete do not appear in that folder directory
[10:34] <Niarf> geirha: ActionParsnip : i did all last updates to my precise station and error is already here
[10:35] <Niarf> i think the fact we use a kerberized nfs homedirs with symbolic link to real home directory is not very supported in precise (in lucid ubuntu, yes)
[10:38] <Niarf> okkkk
[10:38] <Niarf> the interface used by gnome and ubuntu is a fake
[10:39] <Niarf> we have to edit only one file :  .pam_environment
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> Guest62710: run:  lsusb    use the 8 character hex ID to find guides
[10:39] <k1l_> Guest62710: type "lsusb" in a terminal and look for the usbid that dongle got. that is an easy one to google for for a howto
[10:39] <samuel_atwork> if i run locate connections in the terminal it indicates that they are there, but if i try to cd to them it cannot find them
[10:42] <Guest54997> synaptic autoexit after launch. Terminal output: core dumped
[10:48] <TimBanchi1> hello, can somebody explain/help me with library linking (or fix wrong library linking of a python module?)
[10:52] <MonkeyDust> TimBanchi1  some 1000 people in #python, better ask there
[10:54] <lantizia> Has anyone migrated from SBS (especially since it's now a discontinued product) and what did you (presumably Linux based) replace it with?
[10:54] <lantizia> I know Open-Xchange and things like Zarafa install on ubuntu for example
[10:55] <hmsck> hi all
[10:56] <vectory> hi
[10:57] <hmsck> how are you?
[10:57] <vectory> hmsck: busy :|
[10:58] <TimBanchi1> @Monkeydust I already was at #python but nobody wanted to answer :/
[10:58] <siva> Hi all, I am using gentoo OS on my PC and ubuntu is running in virtual machine and my unbuntu got correpted .Getting error " gnome power management failure" how to solve this issue (or) how to get back up of ubuntu  datas..
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> siva: why is the data not backed up already, if the data is important to you?
[10:59] <TimBanchi1> and I think my question is also general about linux libraries. somehow even after reinstalling a package the python application still takes the library which I have compiled manually
[10:59] <TimBanchi1> I already checked the symlinks but I don't find anything there ...
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> siva: why has this not been put into place?
[11:03] <siva> It was working fine,So due to insufficent of hard disk ,i changed another hard disk.Now it's neccessary to getting datas to new hard disk pls help me to get back.
[11:06] <MonkeyDust> as long as all goes fine, one does not think of possible misfortunes
[11:06] <TimBanchi1> How can I force that a package overwrites a linking made by custom compilation? can I simply change the symlinks?
[11:12] <gazzwi86> I'm configuring denyhosts.conf and its asking me for the smtp details so it can send an outgoing email to the admin when someone is denied.  I haven't configured an SMTP server though so was wondering how I would do that as I presume that would be required...
[11:18] <craigbass1976> I've got cupd-pdf installed, but would like to get prompted for a file name every time.  Anyone ever gotten that done?
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> craigbass1976: I'm not finding anything. They save to ~/PDF by default
[11:36] <goo> Hey. Do anyone know of a repository that has packeages for IBM Tivoli TSM backup clients v6?
[11:37] <craigbass1976> ActionParsnip, right, and I'm not opposed to manually renaming the files in there (I was just going to ln -s where/I/actually/want/the/files/to/go ~/PDF ) but I'm not going to be printing these reports every day.  Our retarded ERP won't save count up data at the end of every day.  It will give $3500 as a figure of what was in the drawer, but won't tell us individual $100 bills, $50 bills, nickels, etc.  We print out the count up s
[11:37] <craigbass1976> creens, and paper is piling up, which is why I wanted to do this in the first place
[11:40] <hmsck> my ubuntu is freezing..what can i do?
[11:41] <craigbass1976> Add logs to the fire.  Haw haw haw...  Seriously though, what do the logs say?
[11:42] <Guest16109> kalispera evala ubuntu ala eno evala to eliniko o firefox ine aglika pos to ftiaxno
[11:45] <hmsck>  Unity is a crap
[11:46] <ikonia> hmsck: I suggest using a different desktop if you don't like unity
[11:46] <ikonia> it's not the hardest of concepts to grasp, don't like something, change it
[11:46] <semvoz> (or just use the command line :))
[11:46] <ikonia> semvoz: that's not really an answer if you want a desktop
[11:47] <semvoz> hmm, maybe we should create a `command line based desktop` then o_O
[11:48] <ikonia> great, another pointless answer, well done for contributing
[11:48] <IdleOne> !behelpful
[11:48] <craigbass1976> hmsck, Is it Unity doing it?
[11:49] <craigbass1976> I've gotten XFCE looking a lot like Gnome2.
 xfce is good
[11:51] <dominikd> i've mounted some folders over sshfs, now after hibernate they completely fail to respond, shell hangs on rm `mountpoint`, what can I do to re-mount / remove them?
[11:51] <theso> im having trouble getting online in ubuntu...
[11:51] <craigbass1976> hmsck, I think sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop will do ya
[11:51] <hmsck> craigbass1976 i prefere Windows 7
[11:52] <craigbass1976> dominikd, umount /wherever/the/remote/dir/was/mounted  then you can run the sshfs again.  I yell and swear about this when I forget I was access a laptop's files when I shut the lid...
[11:52] <IdleOne> hmsck: Do you have an Ubuntu related support question?
[11:52] <dominikd> craigbass1976, umount: /home/ddd/he: device is busy.
[11:52] <dominikd> run as sudo
[11:53] <craigbass1976> hmsck, GAH!  Heathen!  Just kidding.  Windows 8 I think is a lot like Unity though.  Give xubuntu a try before you write us off.
[11:53] <dominikd> *with sudo :)
[11:53] <hmsck> IdleOne why?
[11:53] <gordonjcp> dominikd: something is holding a file open in /home/ddd/he
[11:53] <dominikd> yeah my editor has a bunch files open
[11:53] <IdleOne> hmsck: This is a support channel, if you feel like chatting please join #ubuntu-offtopic.
[11:53] <gordonjcp> dominikd: don't forget that . and .. are files so even having a terminal sitting in there will do it
[11:53] <dominikd> any way to just kill it anyway
[11:54] <gordonjcp> dominikd: not really; you need to unmount cleanly otherwise you can lose data
[11:54] <hmsck> IdleOne whe windows is better than linux..more stable
[11:55] <IdleOne> hmsck: That is not an Ubuntu support question.
[11:55] <dominikd> gordonjcp, ok what in case i'm not worried about that
[11:55] <hmsck> IdleOne and what?
[11:56] <bazhang> hmsck, please stop the chit chat. this is NOT the channel for that
[11:56] <bazhang> hmsck, /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:56] <IdleOne> hmsck: This is an Ubuntu support channel, not a chat channel. We do Ubuntu support not discuss what OS is better, or what Desktop Environment is better.
[11:59] <craigbass1976> ActionParsnip, I just realized that if I print from a java app, I can only get one file.  Subsequent prints overwrite it.
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> craigbass1976: libreoffice can choose the print location
[12:01] <craigbass1976> ActionParsnip, I'm printing from our java ERP.  Sounds like I can catch something in process and ask for a file name, but I'm still looking.  I can't be the first guy to want this...
[12:06] <craigbass1976> How many stars are there in our solar system?  This is what the Ubuntu forum is asking me to complete a search.  What happened to how many ears people have?
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> craigbass1976: twice as many as half the amount of ears , or stars
[12:07] <CrypticSquared> isn't a new star discovered each day?
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> craigbass1976: 2(x/2)
[12:07] <craigbass1976> Ahh.  I was duped!  I'm a BOT!
[12:10] <Niarf> hi
[12:11] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:11] <Niarf> is lightdm login screen read profile.d in /etc after a successful user login ?
[12:11] <Niarf> -is +do
[12:11] <Niarf> +es
[12:12] <menace> CrypticSquared: there is only ONE star in our SOLAR system ;)
[12:12] <Niarf> yes in text mode
[12:14] <weeb1e> hello
[12:15] <weeb1e> Can anyone here tell me if the latest ubuntu server supports this controller? raid bus controller [0104]:Hewlett Packard Company Device [103C:323B] Rev 01
[12:16] <linux> hello
[12:16] <Niarf> yes in gdm mode
[12:16] <Niarf>  :)
[12:16] <Niarf> bye
[12:18] <CrypticSquared> menace: excuse me, i've had 6 or so beers ;)
[12:18] <CrypticSquared> and seemed to replace solar system with galaxy
[12:18] <menace> timezone? *envy*
[12:18] <CrypticSquared> Fri 12 Oct 2012 23:18:41 EST
[12:19] <iceroot> weeb1e: there was a website were you can put in the vendor id + device id and it will show you if it is supported by the kernel
[12:20] <menace> CrypticSquared: lucky one :|
[12:27] <MonkeyDust> weeb1e  there's also #ubuntu-server
[12:31] <amaro> hello people
[12:31] <rvsjoen> is there an easy way to reconfigure apt to use a different mirror other than editing a gazillion links in sources.list ?
[12:32] <BluesKaj> rvsjoen, yes use a different server in the software center
[12:33] <amaro> i just move from windows to ubuntu now. can anyone explaine me how do i instal programs when a download it in .tar? is the first time i use ubuntu :)
[12:33] <rvsjoen> does it happen to have a curses of text interface ?
[12:33] <iceroot> amaro: which program you want to install?
[12:33] <rvsjoen> *or
[12:33] <cfhowlett> rvsjoen: update manager/software sources will automate a fair number of the necessary changes
[12:33] <cfhowlett> amaro: software center installations are the preferred method
[12:34] <amaro> showtcast, to build my webradio that i use to have on windows
[12:34] <amaro> i do not find shoutcast on software center, just on their page
[12:36] <MonkeyDust> amaro  i'm sure ubuntu has its own webradio clients
[12:36] <BluesKaj> shoutcast is found in the player settings , amaro , it's web page with streaming , it's notr aqn application
[12:36] <samuel_atwork> i cannot delete a wireless connection from my network settings screen, where might the settings be? i'm using 10.04
[12:36] <cfhowlett> amaro: additionally, it's seems that shoutcast will run in wine
[12:36] <BluesKaj> or in short shoutcast is just a webpage
[12:37] <ThothCastel> why isn't my wireless not working on ubuntu 12.04 - LAPTOP INSPIRON 1525
[12:37] <MonkeyDust> !wifi > ThothCastel start here
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> ThothCastel: which wifi chip?
[12:37] <cfhowlett> ThothCastel: did it ever work?
[12:37]  * cfhowlett broadcom 43x
[12:37]  * cfhowlett bet $1
[12:37] <amaro> do anyone know a good aplication for webradio for ubuntu?
[12:38] <ThothCastel> MonkeyDust: Thank you
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> ThothCastel: if you run:  dmesg | grep -i firm     do you see messages about missing firmware?
[12:38] <fidel_> amaro: i do use clementine as general player - which comes with radio suzpport as well
[12:38] <fidel_> just one of most likely several options to handle that topic
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> amaro: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28496/how-do-i-setup-an-icecast-server-for-broadcasting-audio-in-my-network
[12:38] <BluesKaj> amaro, open the software center and type in radio
[12:39] <fidel_> amaro: are you asking about listening or serving yourself?
[12:39] <amaro> thanks to all who anser me :)
[12:39] <amaro> serving, i have a webradio and i need to set it up on ubuntu
[12:49] <surferboy> how can I configure sendmail to use a smart host for a specific domain?
[12:50] <amaro> can any one explaine me how do i instal a program when is .tar.gz?
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> amaro: what is the file name
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> amaro: its like saying "How do you install a .zip in Windows"
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> amaro: its just an archive, it tells us nothing of the contents
[12:50] <amaro> icecast-2.3.3, i just start with linux, i dont even know how to instal a program :)
[12:51] <surferboy> come on
[12:51] <surferboy> I don't have all day
[12:51] <surferboy> someone tell me
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> surferboy: tell you what?
[12:51] <LorSamPau_w> amaro, i'm pretty sure that there is the source of a program, not the installer
[12:51] <despe70> a while ago I installed Ubuntu on my Windows computer - dualboot. I still have the partition of it, and the old Ubuntu should still be there, but somehow I changed it so that Windows starts automatically without giving me the choice. Is there a way to boot in Ubuntu?
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> amaro: extract the file, then see what you have
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> despe70: if you hold shift at boot, can you select Ubuntu?
[12:52] <amaro> i have many files and folders
[12:52] <despe70> ActionParsnip: never tried that - I do a reboot, and then start pressing shift ?
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> despe70: yes as soon as the system starts to turn on
[12:52] <amaro> admin, conf, debian, doc...
[12:52] <despe70> let me try :)
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> amaro: sounds like spurce to me
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> !info icecast2
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> amaro: why not just install icecast2 and you will get 2.3.2 version, or do you absolutely NEED 2.3.3 ?
[12:54] <amaro> no, i dont need exactly that version, but my problem is that i dont even know how to install a program, i use to have windows
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> amaro: sudo apt-get install icecast2
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> amaro: or use software centre
[12:55] <geirha> Open software center, search for program, click install, ???, profit
[12:55] <FloatingGoat> im aboutt to semi manually ppartition my hard drive. mountpoint is set to / mojnt options are default, there is no label, 5% reserved blocks, typical usage is standard, bootable flag is off. am i good to go?
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> amaro: in Ubuntu, it is very rare to download apps manually to install. Windows is dumb and has its users scouring the web for things they need. Ubuntu has centralized this
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> amaro: did you not think to use this first?
[12:57] <amaro> :) i dont know much about linux
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> amaro: how did you install all the other apps you installed?
[12:57] <bitstoppa> art
[12:58] <amaro> by software center
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> amaro: or have you just stuck with the default app set?
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> amaro: then the process is identical, you are just installing a different package. You are conversant enough with the OS to know to use software centre to install applications
[12:59] <saustin> I'm on 12.04 and I followed instructions even adding gnome3 repository and updated all packages and when I login to "gnome" window manager, I am clearly not getting gnome 3, is there some logfile or otherway I can figure out why?
[13:00] <salvo53> ciao
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> saustin: you have gnome3 in 12.04. It is the default desktop in the Ubuntu release
[13:00] <saustin> I've seen youtube of gnome 3, when I selected "gnome" from the login launcher I clearly get an interface that looks like gnome 2
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> saustin: so are you wanting gnome-shell ?
[13:01] <salvo53> !lista
[13:01] <saustin> ActionParsnip, yes
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> saustin: then run:  sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> saustin: you don't need a PPA for that
[13:01] <saustin> I did, its already installed
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> !info gnome-shell | saustin
[13:02] <saustin> and despite it being installed doesn't seem to be working
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> saustin: then you may be able to press ALT+F2 and run:   gnome-shell --replace
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> saustin: I suggest you remove the PPA< it may be causing issues
[13:02] <saustin> ok I will try both, thanks
[13:03] <saustin> hmm now it looks like I have no window manager hehe
[13:04] <saustin> gnome shell wrote to terminal Missing composite extension required for compositingWindow manager warning: Log level 8: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
[13:04] <saustin> thats something to google I su ppose
[13:06] <rymate1234> Hmmm
[13:06] <rymate1234> How well does Ubuntu 12.04 run on a netbook?
[13:06] <rymate1234> Specifically, it's an Acer Aspire One
[13:07] <geirha> rymate1234: runs ok. The dash and hud is a bit slugish though. Hit Alt, wait 20 seconds, type something.
[13:08] <rymate1234> hmmm ok
[13:08] <rymate1234> what about Unity 2D?
[13:09] <geirha> rymate1234: Haven't tried any other DEs/VMs on it yet, but I suspect it will be faster.
[13:09] <rymate1234> ah ok
[13:09] <rymate1234> Just my mum's finding windows 7 starter slow
[13:09] <rymate1234> geirha, are applications sluggish or just the dash
[13:11] <geirha> rymate1234: I mostly only use chromium and gnome-terminal, and those are fine
[13:11] <rymate1234> ok
[13:11] <IdleOne> rymate1234: You might want to try Lubuntu on it.
[13:11] <rymate1234> thanks :D
[13:12] <geirha> rymate1234: This is aspire one d255e btw. There are other models
[13:13] <rymate1234> hmmm
[13:13] <rymate1234> idk what my mum has, lemme check
[13:14] <geirha> rymate1234: and battery's good. Lasts 5-6 hours after a full charge.
[13:15] <rymate1234> its an A0531H
[13:15] <rymate1234> apparently
[13:15] <rymate1234> Has a dual core atom processor
[13:15] <llutz> rymate1234: my a0531h runs fine with lubuntu 12.04
[13:16] <rymate1234> yay
[13:16] <rymate1234> I'll probably try vanilla 12.04 first
[13:17] <rymate1234> partly because I already have a 12.04 USB stick ready
[13:18] <llutz> rymate1234: all hardware works, all fn-key-combinations are working (lcd-brightness etc.).
[13:18] <rymate1234> yay
[13:18] <rymate1234> (not that my mum uses any of that)
[13:19] <waheed> I have two partition.. one of them are the filesystem, I want to enlarge the size of the file system by cutting part of the free space of the other one and add it to file system without losing the data stored on the other partition.. how to do that??
[13:20] <marka30> jj
[13:20] <geirha> waheed: boot the ubuntu cd and run gparted
[13:23] <tlopez_> so on Android ice Cream can you easily browse the windows network for file compatible with VLC
[13:23] <tlopez_> Galaxy tab 2.7.0
[13:24] <cfhowlett> tlopez_: this isn't the android channel
[13:24] <valnour> tlopez_, you would probably have better luck asking that in an Android channel
[13:24] <tlopez_> can you install Ubuntu as an app on Galaxy tab 2.7.0
[13:24] <amaro> anyone know the best player to use with icecast for audio streaming?
[13:25] <waheed> geirha : can't I do it without the cd.. I already have gparted installed
[13:25] <waheed> ??
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> tlopez_  ubuntu is not an app, it's a distro
[13:25] <tlopez_> also where can I ask abóut android
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> tlopez_  type /join #android
[13:26] <geirha> waheed: No, you can't do this while the filesystem is mounted, and you can't unmount / while the system is running
[13:27] <geirha> waheed: Actually, all filesystems on the harddrive must be unmounted for the resizing and moving
[13:28] <waheed> well, If I did it from the CD.. will the data at the other driver stay the same without being removed??
[13:28] <tlopez_> how do identify with services?
[13:29] <geirha> waheed: Yes, if the procedure doesn't get interrupted midway or something like that. Regardless, you should make sure you have a backup of all the files you can't afford to lose.
[13:29] <g0tcha> heya guys, when i install a new ubuntu server, it asks for the hostname, do add it like this: "name.domain.com", or just "name" ?
[13:29] <ThothCastel> I am trying to install the b43-fwcutter from the cd ubuntu, but the 'install' button is faded out on the ubuntu software centre
[13:30] <ThothCastel> why is that? how can I install it?
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> g0tcha: whichever is appropriate to the server
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> ThothCastel: try using apt-get to install it
[13:30] <ThothCastel> how would that be?
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> ThothCastel: not running software centre correctly
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> ThothCastel: updates currently running
[13:32] <g0tcha> thanks ActionParsnip
[13:32] <ThothCastel> I am trying sudo apt-get b43-fwcutter_015-9_amd64.deb
[13:32] <john_doe_jr> is there something like Suse Studio for Ubuntu?
[13:32] <rigorm0rtis> Hello, I'm having trouble getting IP forwarding going in Ubuntu 12.04 server with UFW. I have two interfaces, eth0 and tun0, and they can't ping each other. I've made the interfaces promiscuous, net/ipv4/ip_forward=1 in /etc/ufw/sysctl.conf, and DEFAULT_FORWARD_POLICY="ACCEPT" in /etc/default/ufw. Is there something I am missing?
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> john_doe_jr  depends on what it is
[13:33] <ThothCastel> E: Invalid operation b43-fwcutter....
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> ThothCastel: sudo apt-get install  b43-fwcutter
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> ThothCastel: not: sudo apt-get b43-fwcutter     you need to give apt-get the operation to do with the package (install, uninstall, reinstall etc)
[13:34] <ThothCastel> ActionParsnip: I see... thanks..  I am trying to locate the usb drive throuth the terminal to run the package
[13:34] <Anomie21> Bit of a weird one. Does anyone have experience burning karaoke disks on Ubuntu?
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> ThothCastel: is the system a laptop?
[13:35] <ThothCastel> yes...
[13:35] <ThothCastel> it has no internet connection...
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> ThothCastel: then why not move the system close to the router and use a wired connection. Waaay easier
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> ThothCastel: you can also get fully updated too
[13:36] <despe70> In Windows, I can see that my harddisk has en 'unused' partition - there should be an old install of Ubuntu on it. when I reboot, I don't get the choice to start Ubuntu. When I press shift during booting (thx to ActionParsnip), I get the options, but all I can select is the "first harddisk", which then boots Windows. I cannot select the right partition to boot from ...
[13:36] <ThothCastel> how do I navigate to the usb drive folder /pool/main/b/b43-fwcutter/   using the terminal
[13:36] <ThothCastel> ?
[13:36] <despe70> how could I boot in that old linux?
[13:36] <cfhowlett> ThothCastel: cd /location
[13:38] <n1> hi. ubuntu doesn't recognize vodafone k3656 dongle
[13:38] <n1> did lsusb
[13:38] <n1> and have ingo
[13:38] <samuel_atwork> ThothCastle you will find the folder with the usb drive under /media
[13:38] <n1> ...info
[13:39] <n1> also, there is usb-modeswitch already installed on ubuntu
[13:40] <ThothCastel> ActionParsnip: ok, I tryed installing the package b43-fwcutter from the media and it gives me this error:
[13:40] <n1> which one to take from this site
[13:40] <n1> https://forge.betavine.net/frs/?group_id=12
[13:40] <ThothCastel> E: unable to locate package    :S
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> ThothCastel: did you run:  sudo apt-get update     first
[13:41] <n1> with or without _svn extension in the name
[13:41] <n1> ?
[13:42] <ThothCastel> I navigated to /pool/main/b/b43-fwcutter/ and issued the command sudo apt-get update
[13:43] <ThothCastel> then I issued the sudo apt-get install  b43-fwcutter_015-9_amd64.deb
[13:43] <ThothCastel> unable to locate package and couldn't find any package by regesx
[13:43] <ThothCastel> *regex
[13:44] <n1> vodafone dongle on ubuntu help needed
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> ThothCastel: you don't need to change directory, apt-get knows where the packages are once you run: sudo apt-get update
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> ThothCastel: I suggest you use the wired connection, its a tonne easier
[13:50] <ThothCastel> help please?  I am not able to...  have no access to the router
[13:50] <ThothCastel> ok, I run it from the home :~$ directory and got the same error
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> n1: run:  lsusb   one line will identify the device, use the 8 character hex id to find guides
[13:51] <ThothCastel> can I download the b43-fwcutter package and transfer with a usb?
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> ThothCastel: sure, why do you not have acces to your own router?
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> ThothCastel: what if you need to power it off and on, do you call the ISP?
[13:54] <lizardjon> anyone know how to create icon shortcuts on Unbunt desktop?
[13:54] <crizis> lizardjon, if you want shortcuts for installed apps, you can just drag them to desktop from dash
[13:55] <zetheroo> is 12.10 coming out soon?
[13:55] <cfhowlett> zetheroo: yes.
[13:55] <zetheroo> this month right?
[13:56] <ThothCastel> ActionParsnip: because I share the house with other people and the router is located in somebody else's room...   there is no phone plug in my room  :S
[13:57] <ThothCastel> ActionParsnip: I am able to login to the router through my LAN
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> ThothCastel: its a lot easier, you could try transfering deb files, could get messy
[13:57] <zetheroo> is there an Ubuntu release party room?
[13:57] <ThothCastel> I got the last file form this list http://linuxwireless.org/download/b43/fwcutter/
[13:58] <Tinybird> Is every xx.10 distribution more stable than it's counterpart xx.04?
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> ThothCastel: I suggest you use http://packages.ubuntu.com
[13:58] <DJones> zetheroo: Its due in about a week, there probably will be a release party room open probably from the day of release
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> Tinybird: not absoilutely, the LTS releases will be more stable than the others
[13:58] <Treaver> When is 12.10 being released officially?
[13:58] <cfhowlett> Tinybird: no.  LTS distros are the supported for longer duration.  Non-LTS are bleeding edge.
[13:58] <ThothCastel> and run the following tar xfvj b43-fwcutter.tar.bz2
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> Treaver: real soon
[13:59] <cfhowlett> Treaver: this month.  patience.
[13:59] <Treaver> I already use the Beta as my regular operating system. I love it! :)
[13:59] <ThothCastel> then I run the sudo  b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware wl_apsta-3.130.20.0.o
[14:00] <Tinybird> is the 8.04 still supported now?
[14:00] <cfhowlett> !EOL|Tinybird:
[14:00] <Guest96029> i cant change the permissions to allow executing .exe files...can anybody help?
[14:00] <OerHeks>  8.04 LTS (server only)
[14:00] <Treaver> Quick question that might be off topic. Deluge is it a bad bit torrent client? I got a email saying Tim: NBC UNIVERSAL has launched a national campaign to stop illegal copyright from being transferred. They are prosecuting to the fullest extent of the law on every 9:02 AM Tim: case. Your computers ip was traced stealing or giving copyrighted material (the movie "Ted") NBC has decided to persue this investigation. 9:02 AM Tim: These fi
[14:01] <ThothCastel> Error: rrrrrrrr........
[14:01] <cfhowlett> !OT|Treaver:
[14:01] <Tinybird> OerHeks: Thx
[14:01] <ThothCastel> how can I install the b43-fwcutter without the internet connection on the laptop?
[14:01] <OerHeks> !offline
[14:02] <OerHeks> AptonCd would be my choice, ThothCastel
[14:02] <Guest96029> i cant change the permissions to allow executing .exe files...can anybody help?
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> Tinybird: soon Lucid will be server only too
[14:02] <Tinybird> Guest96029: chmod
[14:03] <Tinybird> ActionParsnip: I'm still using intrepid
[14:03] <dnivra> hello. I have tor running a socks proxy and I configured in proxy settings but the terminal doesn't use the socks proxy. How can i set the socks proxy in the terminal?
[14:03] <NYG|EliManning> fr ?
[14:03] <Guest96029> Tinybird: ??
[14:04] <Tinybird> Guest96029: does "chmod" work?
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> Tinybird: wow, thats really dead
[14:04] <Guest96029> Tinybird: it works bt i dont know how to use the arguments
[14:05] <Tinybird> ActionParsnip: Long long ago, I believed xx.10 is much more stable than xx.04.
[14:05] <Tinybird> Guest96029: man chmod will give you more about that
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> Tinybird: not the case, LTS is every other .04 release. The .04 isn't always more stable
[14:07] <damms005> pls where can I post image for people to see (so that I can get erquired help)
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> damms005: imageshack
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> damms005: imgur
[14:07] <damms005> imageshack.com?
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> damms005: search and ye will find
[14:08] <Tinybird> Guest96029:for the record, basic usage such as "chmod u+x filename" is to let you have the authority to execute the file
[14:09] <Guest96029> Tinybird: ok ill try ........thanx dude
[14:09] <Tinybird> Guest96029: welcome
[14:09] <damms005> I edited an image with ubuntu GIMP and it has rough edges and rough curves. Where do I get help so that I can produce images with smooth edges?
[14:10] <cfhowlett> damms005: #gimp
[14:10] <iceroot> damms005: irc.gimp.net #gimp  or on freenode #gimp
[14:10] <Tinybird> damms005: some experience with photoshop may be helpful
[14:10] <Tinybird> LOL
[14:10] <cfhowlett> damms005: perhaps #ubuntustudio as well
[14:12] <damms005> http://imageshack.us/a/img407/7405/menunav.jpg
[14:12] <damms005> how do I get a shraper image?
[14:13] <cfhowlett> damms005: ask in #gimp.  This is #ubuntu.
[14:14] <damms005> thanks.
[14:15] <researcher> How do I know if my Ubuntu Hard Disk has either of these partitions? [Intel  ] Intel/PC partition,[EFI GPT] EFI GPT partition map (Mac i386, some x86_64...), [Humax  ] Humax partition table, [Mac    ] Apple partition map, [None   ] Non partitioned media, [Sun    ] Sun Solaris partition, [XBox   ] XBox partition?
[14:16] <Tinybird> researcher: fdisk
[14:16] <researcher> Tinybird: Thanks.Just trying
[14:19] <Tinybird> I have an ubuntu 8.10 working excellent with the only defect that it is installed using wubi
[14:19] <researcher> Tinybird: I have a hard disk which cant be accessed. I want to know its partition type. How to use fdisk command?
[14:21] <iceroot> researcher: sudo fdisk -l
[14:21] <researcher> Tinybird: Thanks a lot
[14:22] <Kroach> I need to apply a patch to the kernel, where can I find instructions on how to do it in Ubuntu? The information in the Ubuntu wiki seems outdated.
[14:22] <jrib> !kernel | Kroach
[14:23] <jrib> Kroach: just apply the patch before you build
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> !patch | Kroach
[14:23] <Kroach> jrib: the highest version of Ubuntu mentioned in that wiki page is 10.04, is the procedure for 12.04 exactly the same?
[14:24] <Tinybird> I have an ubuntu 8.10 working excellent with the only defect that it is installed using wubi. What should I do if I want to move it to a real ubuntu system under ext3 file system?
[14:24] <jrib> Kroach: should be
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> Tinybird: I would reinstall with Precise
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> Tinybird: you can restore user data and such from backup
[14:25] <jrib> Kroach: package versions are probably different.  There are also several different methods mentioned there
[14:26] <Kroach> jrib: ok, thanks, I'll try these then
[14:26] <jrib> Kroach: what is it that you need to patch by the way?
[14:26] <researcher> Tinybird: Please help here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1275012/
[14:27] <KamZou> Hi, i'm trying to restore LVM partitions from an ubuntu live cd after a V2V from VMware converter standalone5, but i've a problem when i boot : "/dev/mapper/system-root no such device"  Here are the commands i type in my ubuntu live cd : http://pastebin.com/QK1A5mVV  help please
[14:28] <Tinybird> researcher: What's that? what's ur problem?
[14:29] <researcher> Tinybird: I am trying to recover data using Testdisk program
[14:30] <Tinybird> ActionParsnip: Maybe the Precise is a good idea. I'm looking into that. Thx.
[14:33] <Tinybird> researcher: fdisk is for formatting a disk partition.
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> Tinybird: Intrepid is very dead
[14:34] <Tinybird> ActionParsnip: emm, it works so well that I don't wanna upgrade at all
[14:34] <Tinybird> ActionParsnip: LOL
[14:38] <sticky1> how do I recover a folder in Xubuntu on ext4?
[14:38] <sticky1> accidentally deleted something very important
[14:39] <ubuntu-newb> hi all
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> Tinybird: its completely unsupported in any way you can think off
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> *of
[14:40] <llutz> sticky1: you may try photorec/testdisk or extundelete
[14:40] <DJones> !recover | sticky1
[14:40] <sticky1> ok
[14:42] <Tinybird> ActionParsnip: Fortunately, I can still get packages from oldrelease
[14:43] <sticky1> ok appearantly at that site they want me to recover the file with foremost to usb disc lol. is it dangerous to recover to same disc? will the clusters to recover be overwritten by the recovered ones or something?
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> Tinybird: i'd just move on up to a supported release
[14:44] <ironfoot495> cant seem to get libreoffice on 10.04 can someone show me how?
[14:45] <DJones> sticky1: If you're using the file system that the deleted files are on, any disk access that happens could overwrite the deleted data, its better to use a livecd and then recover to USB
[14:45] <pangur> I stupidly did ... sudo apt-get remove perl.  I have stopped it fairly late on in the process.  I have tried to do ... sudo apt-get install perl but I get a message saying that var/lib/dpkg/lock is unavailable.
[14:45] <pangur> How do I get my puter restored.
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> !info libreoffice lucid
[14:45] <sticky1> ok
[14:45]  * pangur looks panicky
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> ironfoot495: let me find a ppa
[14:45] <Tinybird> ActionParsnip: There are so many programs working very well on my machine. I'm worried about whether it will still run so fluently if I update
[14:45] <ironfoot495> ActionParsnip: ok thanks
[14:46] <pangur> How do I disable dpkg lock?
[14:46] <jrib> pangur: perl probably took so much stuff out with it...
[14:46]  * pangur quivers
[14:46] <sticky1> aargh my disk is 75 gb and now process foremost is scanning this all... i don't have the time to wait
[14:47] <jrib> pangur: how did you stop it?
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> ironfoot495: sudo add-apt-repositoy ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-3-5; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install libreoffice
[14:47] <pangur> ctrl -z
[14:47] <jrib> pangur: that just pauses it
[14:47] <pangur> oh
[14:47] <pangur> How do I stop it then?
[14:47] <jrib> pangur: if you type « jobs » you should still see something listed
[14:48] <pangur> [1]+  Stopped                 sudo apt-get remove perl
[14:48] <Tinybird> pangur: Ctrl -c can interrupt it directly.
[14:48] <pangur> so, should I run it again and then do ctrl-c?
[14:49] <Tinybird> pangur: yes
[14:49] <AdvoWork> there is a bug, which says "This bug was fixed in the package mountall - 2.25"  how do i get that current package? its for ubuntu 10.04 server
[14:50] <sticky1> too complicated, used scalpel
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> !ppa AdvoWork
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> sticky1: if you had backups, you wouldn't need to do this. Why do you not have a backup?
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | AdvoWork
[14:51] <ironfoot495> ActionParsnip: add-apt-repositoy: command not found
[14:51] <pangur> http://fpaste.org/OXdt/ shows my terminal output
[14:51] <sticky1> ActionParsnip: I was about to make a backup while deleting old files... accidentally deleted minecraft gamesaves :S
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> ironfoot495: sudo apt-get install python-software-properties:
[14:51] <pangur> That was after doing the ctrl-c
[14:51] <ironfoot495> Tghhat's the problem Ive been having just wont install for some reason.
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> sticky1: oh jeez
[14:52] <ironfoot495> ActionParsnip: oh ok!
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> ironfoot495: lucid desktop is EOL in April, why not install a newer release....
[14:53] <vl4kn0> Hi, when I attempt to open software centre I get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1275045/
[14:53] <[twisti]> hi, on my new ubuntu server lts 12, when i log in, i am not informed about new updates/patches available via apt. back on my lts 10 server, it used to always list available updates. what setting/software causes this ?
[14:53] <jrib> pangur: fg will bring your stopped job to the foreground where then you can try to ctrl-c... and then hope you can undo whatever it's done
[14:53] <pangur> jrib and Tinybird, http://fpaste.org/OXdt/ is the output after doing ctrl-c.  Any suggestion, please, as to how I might  proceed from here?
[14:53] <ironfoot495> ActionParsnip: which one would you suggest?
[14:54] <simplew> in grub the field about booting into the distro point to a UUID that is the one of the /boot partition, shouldnt be using the UUID of the root partition?
[14:54] <ubuntu-newb> after having installed ubuntu 12.04 i made a partition NTFS for a windows installation, and now only windows start. Any help?
[14:55] <paulens12> you need to install windows FIRST to dual boot
[14:55] <ubuntu-newb> at the moment im on a 12.04 live
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> [twisti]: if you run:    /usr/lib/update-notifier/update-motd-updates-available     are you told?
[14:55] <pangur> jrib - it seems to be working
[14:55]  * pangur is praying hard
[14:55] <paulens12> windows modifies BIOS... or something like that xD
[14:56] <ubuntu-newb> can't do anything? need to format ALL partitions?
[14:56] <[twisti]> ActionParsnip: thanks, i just read on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareUpdates that i have to install that ;)
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> [twisti]: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1275049
[14:56] <[twisti]> ah uhm
[14:56] <[twisti]> 1 upgraded, 169 newly installed
[14:56] <paulens12> ubuntu-newb, just install ubuntu again
[14:56] <[twisti]> that seems to depend on a lot of things
[14:56] <paulens12> and it should work
[14:56] <Tinybird> ubuntu-newb: windows may override the boot pointer over grub
[14:57] <ubuntu-newb> wtf i installed tons of things on ubuntu
[14:57] <ubuntu-newb> Tinybird, any chance to restore grub_
[14:57] <[twisti]> so is this rpm hell ?
[14:57] <paulens12> ubuntu-newb, you can copy the files out and thenb ack into ubuntu
[14:57] <[twisti]> im worried im making a huge mistake if i ok this
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> [twisti]: no, ubuntu uses deb
[14:57] <[twisti]> deb hell then
[14:57] <ubuntu-newb> paulens12, can u show me how?
[14:58] <paulens12> ...
[14:58] <pangur> What I am wondering is whether to reinstall perl is enough to stop my ubuntu from being broken, jrib?
[14:58] <djbpython> how do i set up a tunnel via a remote host so that i can hit my localhost? like http://www.myserver.com:3001 should really request http://localhost:3001
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> [twisti]: no dep hell is when you need to scour the web to satisfy deps
[14:58] <pangur> It claims that it has reinstalled perl
[14:58] <ubuntu-newb> i mean, which files are u talking about?
[14:58] <jrib> pangur: no, it's not.  You should go look at everything that was removed and reinstall it
[14:58] <paulens12> copy usr and root folders
[14:58] <paulens12> and idk
[14:58] <paulens12> ask someone else
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> [twisti]: then find that that too has deps you need to satisfy
[14:58] <paulens12> i"m new here too xd
[14:58] <pangur> Thanks, jrib.
[14:58] <[twisti]> http://pastebin.com/4Hdf5V8y is this a good idea to ok ? i never had anything ask for so much crap to install, especially not something so simple, im a bit worried that itll mess up my system
[14:59] <Tinybird> ubuntu-newb: a little bitter. I just know the principle not the specifics.
[15:00] <paulens12> ubuntu-newb, copy usr... programs are stored in it...
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> [twisti]: well yeah, that will install the whole gnome desktop for you
[15:00] <[twisti]> i really dont want that
[15:00] <[twisti]> its a headless system
[15:00] <[twisti]> so was the old one, and the old one had those notifications on login
[15:00] <ubuntu-newb> paulens12, no chances i will format my ubuntu if i can just fix grub
[15:00] <paulens12> lol
[15:01] <pangur> There are loads and loads of lib* type progs that have been uninstalled.  Is there a way that I can reinstall them without having to go through them manually, jrib?
[15:01] <paulens12> then windows won't run
[15:01] <paulens12> x
[15:01] <paulens12> D
[15:01] <paulens12> xD
[15:01] <FloodBot1> paulens12: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:01] <ubuntu-newb> i dont care then
[15:01] <paulens12> lol
[15:01] <paulens12> well your choise...
[15:01] <paulens12> but i think windows is better for everyday use
[15:01] <ubuntu-newb> i mean, i prefer to have my ubuntu back
[15:01] <paulens12> lol
[15:01] <paulens12> dude
[15:01] <paulens12> have both
[15:01] <FloodBot1> paulens12: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:01] <bazhang> !behelpful | paulens12
[15:01] <paulens12> reinstall ubuntu and you'll have both
[15:01]  * pangur is using the windows-installed version of ubuntu
[15:01] <poglesbyg> I've installed ubuntu on my desktop and where it should show the apps running on the left side of the screen it is just blank
[15:02] <poglesbyg> how can i fix this?
[15:02] <jrib> pangur: try just making sure you have ubuntu-desktop installed (if you're using a standard ubuntu install)
[15:02] <poglesbyg> how do i check that?
[15:03]  * pangur is reinstalling ubuntu-desktop
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> poglesbyg: tried Unity2D session?
[15:04] <pangur> I uninstalled perl because I could not get eclipse to recognise that it was present.
[15:05] <pangur> However, I did not realise that uninstalling perl would take half my system with it.
[15:05] <ubuntu-newb> no one can help me with the boot problem?
[15:05] <pangur> Is ubuntu built on perl?
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu-newb: you can use a chroot from liveCD if you need to manipulate / reinstate grub
[15:05] <jrib> pangur: perl is used in very many places, I'm sure
[15:06] <sticky1> I'm about to grab my laptop, pour some petrol over it, burn it, send it to NASA where they send it into space to send the remains of it in a supernova while shooting an atombomb at it because it is TOO DIFFICULT to recover one single file, isn't there any recoverytool with a gui?
[15:06] <ubuntu-newb> ActionParsnip, im actually from a liveCD, but i don't know what to do
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu-newb: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video
[15:06] <pangur> I have now restored ubuntu-desktop, it tells me.
[15:07] <[twisti]> damn, where does 90-updates-available come from ?
[15:07] <ubuntu-newb> i will check it ActionParsnip, thanks
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> sticky1: just let foremost run overnight, you can inspect your writable partition in the morning. Again, backups will have saved you this grief
[15:07] <pangur> Anything else apart from restoring ubuntu-desktop that I need to do, please, jrib?
[15:07] <jrib> [twisti]: why?  dpkg -S /path/to/file   will tell you where file is from
[15:07] <alejandro> try deleting python in debian. debian will be broken.
[15:07] <Tinybird> pangur: perl is ultra important on any unix-like systems.
[15:08] <jrib> pangur: well if it was me, I'd go read the scrollback and see what apt removed exactly.  Then copy those packages and explicitly install them again
[15:08] <[twisti]> jrib: thanks
[15:08] <pangur> Thanks, Tinybird.
[15:08] <ubuntu-newb> ActionParsnip, how i can check which /dev/sdX is my ubuntu partition?
[15:08] <[twisti]> jrib: for some reason, update-notifier seems to depend on the entire gnome desktop
[15:08] <sticky1> ActionParsnip: I need to restore one single folder and its contents, just this. Why is this so difficult on linux?
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> [twisti]: /etc/update-motd.d   just like my pastebin shows
[15:08] <[twisti]> which on a headless server is obviously a bad idea
[15:08] <Joe_CoT> so for some reason after the latest firefox update, unity doesn't recognize that firefox is launched, and my task switcher lists it as "Minefield 3.5 Web Browser". I haven't had Minefield installed in quite some time, and I removed the menu entry for it, but same thing. any idea what gives?
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> sticky1: its the same in Windows
[15:08] <pangur> Thanks jrib.
[15:08] <[twisti]> ActionParsnip: i dont understand what youre trying to say
[15:09] <[twisti]> its nice that you have those files
[15:09] <sticky1> ActionParsnip: No you had this program Recuva and that was a super nice program to use
[15:09] <[twisti]> but how does that help me ?
[15:09]  * pangur is printing out his scrollback
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> sticky1: why because it used a mouse instead of typing stuff?
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> [twisti]: its the location of the script.
[15:09] <badboy007> Ciao a Tutti
[15:09] <sticky1> ActionParsnip: yes actually, I'm not into console-programs
[15:09] <jrib> sticky1: well it's difficult because when you say "delete this file instead of put this file in a place where I can restore it", linux will do what you ask.  See ubottu's !recover factoid for your options and take this as a lesson to always have backups for things you care about
[15:09] <[twisti]> ActionParsnip: yes, on your pc. do you suggest that i refence the file on your pc via ftp ? or email them to me ?
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> sticky1: console is where a lot of linux's power lives. You can do stuff the GUI dreams of doing and easily
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> [twisti]: I already cat'd the files, so you have the contents....
[15:11] <[twisti]> well im not actually going to just copy and paste someone elses files into my pristine system
[15:11] <[twisti]> i just wanted to know where they came from
[15:11] <sticky1> jrib: Look, I deleted the saves folder right from Minecraft. I thought it would take it to the bin, not to remove it permanently!
[15:11] <[twisti]> luckily i found them on my old system and did what jrib told me
[15:11] <[twisti]> they were from update-notifier-common
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> [twisti]: isn't it the same as me sending you the file?
[15:11] <[twisti]> yes, it is, it wasnt a serious suggestion
[15:11] <sticky1> jrib: And that by accident, I deleted the wrong world
[15:11] <jrib> sticky1: you used rm?
[15:12] <sticky1> jrib: no look I deleted the save folder right fromout Minecraft: http://images.wikia.com/creepypasta/images/c/c5/Minecraft-Diary-31-World-Delete.jpg
[15:12] <[twisti]> by the way, thanks jrib ;)
[15:12] <Iszak> How can I purge my Macbook Air of which is known as Mountain Lion and only install Ubuntu, I know there's guides to use bootcamp, but I want to remove ML.
[15:12] <[twisti]> its all working as it should now
[15:13] <sticky1> jrib: With every second waiting, chances are greater the overwritable folder has been overwritten with new temporary stuff
[15:13] <jrib> sticky1: if you're still using the partition for some reason, yeah
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> sticky1: boot to liveCD and you can work on the unmounted partition
[15:14] <jrib> yes, do as ActionParsnip says
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> sticky1: its goingto take time, plus you will need a fairly large destination partition to spit all the found files to, then hope the file you want hasn't got damaged in some way
[15:14] <ncfi1013__> VIDEO_TS.BUP, VIDEO_TS.IFO, VIDEO_TS.VOB, VTS_01_0.BUP, VTS_01_0.IFO, VTS_01_0.VOB...who can tell me how to properly burn these files to a dvd so its playable?
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> ncfi1013__: how did you get these files?
[15:15] <sticky1> jrib: I appreciate the help but am too lazy to do all that... I'll just leave it by this as a lesson not to be too stupid to accidentally remove something permanently. Hey, I didn't know Minecraft would delete worlds permanently and I didn't think there was a way of recovering a single folder. But thanks for the help.
[15:15] <sticky1> Gotta go now
[15:15] <sticky1> Bye
[15:16] <jrib> sticky1: make routine backups :)
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> jrib: been saying it for years
[15:16] <jrib> ActionParsnip: alas, I also learned the hard way many years ago
[15:16] <sticky1> ok
[15:16] <llutz> ncfi1013__: "growisofs -Z /dev/dvd -dvd-video path/to/dir/containing/those/files"
[15:16] <sticky1> ncfi1013__: there was some software which automated all that for you
[15:16] <ncfi1013__> ActionParsnip__: i opened the disc in a file manager
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> jrib: seen loads of people burned, its quick and easy :)
[15:17] <sticky1> ncfi1013__: i think it is in the ubuntu software center
[15:17] <sticky1> t
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> ncfi1013__: then you have the DVD. Are you wanting to make a copy?
[15:17] <ncfi1013__> i know i have the dvd already
[15:18] <ncfi1013__> what i want i want to know is if i download those files from a p2p site how do i burn to disc so its playable
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> ncfi1013__: we don't support piracy here
[15:19] <paulens12> ncfi1013__, use linux live usb creator tool
[15:19] <Safa_[A_boy]> hi, how can I extract a b6i file ?
[15:19] <paulens12> ActionParsnip, it's not piracy. p2p is 100% legal in most of countries
[15:20]  * pangur is restoring eclipse - 112MB
[15:20] <jackdup> can anybody here help with samba?
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> jackdup: in what way?
[15:21] <jackdup> ActionParsnip, I have it set up with multiple shares but I can't connect to it remotely
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> jackdup: can you ping the server?
[15:21] <jackdup> i can list all the shares using smbclient command locally
[15:21] <ncfi1013__> how would i burn those files with k3b?
[15:22] <jackdup> ActionParsnip, yes but I have in bound to a tap device. can't ping htat
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> jackdup: when you run:  smbtree   do you see the server and it's shares (from another system)?
[15:22] <jackdup> ActionParsnip, nope. I can see others. It seems like it isn't broadcasting
[15:22] <llutz> ncfi1013__: "new Projet - video-dvd"  then put all those files into the given "VIDEO_TS" folder
[15:23] <Hanif> anyone well versed in configuring VPN access on an ASA?
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> Safa_[A_boy]: seems to be a BlindWrite Ver. 6 file
[15:23] <Safa_[A_boy]> yes ^_^
[15:23]  * pangur has 5minutes and 10 seconds to wait
[15:24] <ncfi1013__> ok...thats simple...but what is the reason for the AUDIO_TS file?
[15:24]  * pangur is scared his machine will be kaput but, atm, it is working.
[15:24] <bazhang> !ot > pangur
[15:24] <llutz> ncfi1013__: just compatibility, its empty on video-dvds
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> jackdup: then you need to sort that first, is there a firewall on it?
[15:25] <pangur> sorry, bazhang.
[15:25] <ncfi1013__> llutz__: thanks for your help
[15:25] <llutz> ncfi1013__: it is used for this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-Audio
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> Safa_[A_boy]: if you just loop mount it like any other disk image, does it mount?
[15:26] <jackdup> no. I can connect to the machine in every other way (ie ssh, openvpn etc...) but samba  just won't broadcast
[15:26] <Safa_[A_boy]> it open with gedit !
[15:26] <Safa_[A_boy]> only
[15:27] <Safa_[A_boy]> so I can't mount it :'(
[15:27] <ncfi1013__> oh i have another question...the swap...put it in the beginning, middle, or end for better performance?
[15:27] <jackdup> ActionParsnip, no. I can connect to the machine in every other way (ie ssh, openvpn etc...) but samba  just won't broadcast
[15:28] <ncfi1013__> i put it in the middle and my computer occasionally freezes and the mouse seems to always be sticky
[15:29] <llutz> ncfi1013__: on modern harddisks the position of swap won't really matter, the differences are marginal
[15:30] <ncfi1013__> on a sata 40gb?
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> jackdup: could ask in #samba  they can check your config some
[15:30] <llutz> ncfi1013__: that is modern :)
[15:31] <llutz> ncfi1013__: i doubt that those freezes are swap-related
[15:31] <ncfi1013__> how big should the swap be? 2 or 4 gb? mines 4gb...i think that may also be a problem
[15:31] <paulens12> how much ram do you have?
[15:32] <jackdup> ActionParsnip, nobody answering there .. I don't have to configure smb.conf on the client end do I?
[15:32] <llutz> ncfi1013__: the size only matters if you want to use hibernation /suspend to disk/
[15:32] <ncfi1013__> 4gb paulens12
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> jackdup: thats the way I always do it personally
[15:32] <paulens12> then get 8GB swap
[15:32] <jackdup> ActionParsnip, thanks man. I'll give that a try
[15:33] <compdoc> jackdup, what are you using for clients? What os?
[15:33] <bazhang> paulens12, thats not good advice
[15:33] <ncfi1013__> a friend of mine suggests only 2gb swap
[15:33] <pangur> Is there a test that would indicate to me whether my ubuntu is still working properly or not?
[15:33] <jackdup> compdoc, all ubuntu 12.04
[15:34] <llutz> ncfi1013__: are you using hibernation? if not, 1-2GB are more than fine. if yes,  you'll need a bit more than 4GB
[15:34] <pangur> My impression is that all is well but I am afraid that if I switch off it will be gone and that I shall not be able to restore.
[15:34] <IdleOne> ncfi1013__: 4GB swap is good.
[15:34] <compdoc> jackdup, do you have samba installed on the clients?
[15:34] <ncfi1013__> i use hibernation sometimes...only when it rains
[15:34] <Rains> hmm?
[15:34] <jackdup> compdoc, yea but I haven't touched the conf file on the clients. I didn't think it was necessary
[15:35] <compdoc> jackdup, I do the same thing so they can use a windows network. I dont touch the conf files either, although you might want to set the workgroup name
[15:36] <kiniex> Hi
[15:36] <mr-rich> This is probibly OT, but I want to use expr in a shell script to find the first character in a string that might have white space in front of it and return the index. Any ideas?
[15:37] <ncfi1013__> to all...thanks for your help...bye
[15:37] <Safa_[A_boy]> ActionParsnip, sry :(
[15:37] <jackdup> compdoc, workgroup is set. just checked that. I have to be missing something really simple stupid. everything seems in place
[15:38] <basil_0> hello
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> Safa_[A_boy]: sup?
[15:38] <basil_0> clear
[15:38] <basil_0> 有人在马
[15:39] <Safa_[A_boy]> what do you mean ?!
[15:39] <BluesKaj> !cn | basil_0
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> mr-rich: ask in #bash too :)
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> mr-rich: ask in #bash too
[15:41] <islandmonkey> Hello, anybody know how a fix a signature problem with apt? After (stupidly) clearing the apt cache using Ubuntu Tweak, it obviously messed up with the keys associated with the repos. This now means that some ppa's and the universe repo is broken. Anybody know how to fix it (re-adding the keys didn't work as you suggested yesterday, ActionParsnip)?
[15:41] <fnord`> How can I see/change the default fonts in unity on 12.10? I was told about 'myunity' but I could not locate that package in ubuntu software center and the PPA did not work.
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> islandmonkey: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  sudo apt-get update; lsb_release -a
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> fnord`: ask in #ubuntu+1 for Quantal support please
[15:42] <IdleOne> fnord`: How did the PPA not work?
[15:44] <fnord`> IdleOne: I will be in #ubuntu+1
[15:44] <Safa_[A_boy]> ActionParsnip, what is "sup" ?!!!
[15:45] <Safa_[A_boy]> + what about me? sry for annoying :"(
[15:45] <islandmonkey> ActionParnsip: http://pastebin.com/mjGE3Dbv
[15:47] <mgodzilla> how would i go 'bout changin' the default browser for weblinks for thunderbird.
[15:47] <mgodzilla> usin' lxde.
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> Safa_[A_boy]: just wondering why you were saying sorry. sup == what's up?
[15:47] <Safa_[A_boy]> sorry for annoying you :P
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> mgodzilla: https://hsmak.wordpress.com/2009/09/03/howto-force-thunderbird-to-open-links-in-firefox/
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> Safa_[A_boy]: there was no annoyance :)
[15:48] <Safa_[A_boy]> ^___^
[15:49] <mgodzilla> thank you ActionParsnip :)
[15:50] <vl4kn0> why do I get this error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1275115/
[15:51] <islandmonkey> vl4kn0: I have the same problem
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> islandmonkey: let me check
[15:51] <sud_> how to get qualcomm me102 working on linux ...
[15:52] <sud_> tata photon+ connection
[15:53] <MaskilPDX> Good Morning
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> MaskilPDX  other timezone
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> islandmonkey: http://pastie.org/5044711
[15:53] <KsM> dist-upgrading ubuntu from 10.04. Go to 10.10 then 11.04 or straight to 11.04?
[15:53] <MaskilPDX> YeahRight, sorry
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> islandmonkey: it's the same command, just changing the key to the ones you gave in your pastebin
[15:54] <MaskilPDX> yes.  I'm on the western part of the US
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> islandmonkey: I have it in a script called get key with the  usual bash head line then: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com $1
[15:55] <islandmonkey> ActionParsnip: Still coming up with the same errors after running that
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> islandmonkey: did all the keys import ok?
[15:56] <islandmonkey> ActionParsnip: Yes, they did.
[15:57] <genii-around> KsM: 10.04 with do-release-upgrade should take you to 12.04
[15:57] <KsM> ok
[15:57] <KsM> I tried that before and got some error, but I'll try again.
[15:58] <MonkeyDust> KsM  fresh install is the fastest, easiest and most efficient - backup first if you do ot have a separate /home
[15:58] <genii-around> KsM: Should make sure you have all PPA disabled, just use stock repositories
[15:58] <MonkeyDust> not*
[15:59] <Safa_[A_boy]> hi, how can I extract a b6i file ?
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> Safa_[A_boy]  what b6i ?
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> what's
[16:00] <KsM> I just installed 10.04 yesterday and tried the do-release-upgrade, didn't work so I ran apt-get update;apt-get upgrade over night and now I'm trying again
[16:00] <Safa_[A_boy]> a BlindWrite Ver. 6 file
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> KsM  that upgrades everything inside the installation, it does upgrade to a new release
[16:01] <islandmonkey> Safa_[A_boy]: Appears to be impossible (the software to open it is Windows only)
[16:01] <islandmonkey> Unless you have Windows, of course
[16:02] <Safa_[A_boy]> ok :"""(
[16:03] <MonkeyDust> Safa_[A_boy]  submit it is an idea in !brainstorm
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> Safa_[A_boy]: or don't use blindwrite :)
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> blindwrite sounds like something for blind people, no?
[16:05] <islandmonkey> ^lol
[16:06] <Sparadrap> Need Some help, after telecharging and install xubuntu software, how to use it  ?
[16:06] <islandmonkey> ActionParsnip: Any ideas?
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> islandmonkey: remove the PPAs then readd is allI can suggest
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> Sparadrap: use what?
[16:07] <theadmin> Sparadrap: What do you mean? You use it like you'd use any other OS, like Windows or Mac. Also, the term is "downloading". The french support is in #ubuntu-fr
[16:07] <Sparadrap> ok thanks, to use xfce on my ubuntu
[16:07] <hilo> hello I am trying to write a script to do some stuff for me and I can't get a string to manipulate the way I need. Can someone assist? The full string is (quotes are part of the string): "asdfas dfasdf" {asdfasdf-asdf-asdf-asdf-asdfasdfasdf}
[16:07] <islandmonkey> ActionParsnip: But what about the stock repo?
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> Sparadrap: thats fine, use it as you would any OS, use the menus and you will see applications you can run and use
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> islandmonkey: you don't need keys for those
[16:08] <theadmin> Sparadrap: Oh that. You "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" OR "sudo apt-get install xfce4", after which you log out, click the weird gear thingy, and choose "Xfce" out of the list.
[16:08] <hilo> I tried this ${variable%pattern} but I can't get it to remove the part between the {*}
[16:08] <Sparadrap> ok thanks
[16:08] <theadmin> hilo: What do you want to do with the string exactly?
[16:08] <islandmonkey> ActionParsnip: But there is an error with one of the stock repos
[16:09] <dell2012> how can i resize swap and extended partitions in my sda using commands in console commands?
[16:09] <hilo> theadmin, it is output from a command to show me what VM's are currently running. It gives the name and uuid.. I need to pass JUST the name to the vboxmanage command to shut off the vm gracefully
[16:10] <hilo> theadmin, so it is like this "NAME" {uuid}
[16:10] <hilo> theadmin, I need to strip off the {uuid} / parse out the name
[16:11] <Sparadrap> there was two weeks, RIchard Stallman cames to my school to do a meeting
[16:11] <poglesbyg> i'm having some difficulty installing  java 64 here is the code http://pastebin.com/0r7BL2Mh
[16:11] <AdvoWork> ive just added some iptables rules to a server, but for some reason they aren't doing anything. ive tested the same instructions on another server which works. Any ideas please(ubuntu server 10.04)
[16:11] <theadmin> hilo: Oh, heh. echo $string | sed -r 's/\{.*\}//g' | sed -r 's/\"//g' will do the trick.
[16:12] <hilo> theadmin, can you explain that to me? it looks like magic.
[16:12] <theadmin> hilo: Regular expressions... They are beyond explaining in a single message
[16:12] <OerHeks> poglesbyg, "refer to the Troubleshooting section of the Installation Instructions on the download page for more information."
[16:12] <OerHeks> poglesbyg, we don't know what package/
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> islandmonkey: try this: wget -O fixpackage https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Public/fixpackage?w=99a57167; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[16:13] <ceed^> I will never understand why something so irregular as regular expressions are call regular.
[16:13] <hilo> theadmin, okay, I'll take it. works flawlessly
[16:14] <An_Ony_Moose> Hi. For reasons I do not want to explain, I need to install 32-bit ubuntu using debootstrap. Assuming I already have a bootloader, would this suffice for a close-to-normal desktop installation? debootstrap --arch=i386 --include=linux-image,ubuntu-desktop precise /mnt
[16:14] <hilo> theadmin, thanks, if you know any good regular expressions tutorials, I'd love to take a look.
[16:14] <islandmonkey> ActionParsnip: 403 Forbidden for that link
[16:14] <theadmin> hilo: I don't think I really know any, eh, I don't remember how I learned them
[16:15] <An_Ony_Moose> Would I have to use --foreign seeing as I'm running it from an x86_64 system?
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> islandmonkey: ok, i'll pastebin the commands for you
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> islandmonkey: http://pastie.org/5044988
[16:16] <kendosan> guys I want to make ubuntu theme just like this !!!!!! http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/7624/desktopthumb.jpg
[16:16] <kendosan> anybody can tell me how to start ?
[16:17] <jiffe98> question, I have a raid driver adaptec provided which was build for the 3.2.0-29 kernel and a set of instructions for installing to that kernel, using it straight with a 3.2.0-31 kernel doesn't seem to work but if I install to a 3.2.0-29 kernel and do a dist-upgrade it works, any idea how I can duplicate that if my kernel is already 3.2.0-31?
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> kendosan: I'd start looking at docks, you may want to start with xfce
[16:19] <Tinybird> hilo: Mastering Regular Expressions, Jeffrey, O'Reilly
[16:19] <islandmonkey> ActionParsnip: No such thing as /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[16:19] <hilo> Tinybird, I'll check it out
[16:19] <hilo> Tinybird, thanks
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> islandmonkey: thats fine, keep going
[16:21] <poglesbyg> ok bear with me this is a stupid question... is it possible to run 64 java on a 32 OS?
[16:21] <paulens12> nope
[16:21] <paulens12> xD
[16:21] <dell2012> how can i resize swap and extended partitions in my sda using commands in console commands?
[16:21] <poglesbyg> bummer
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> dell2012: you'll need to be in teh liveCD
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> dell2012: you can use parted in CLI if you wish
[16:22] <paulens12> bazhang, WHAT THE FUCK?!
[16:22] <bazhang> !behelpful | paulens12
[16:22] <bazhang> paulens12, no cursing here
[16:22] <paulens12> bazhang, FUCK YOU
[16:23] <dell2012> actionparsnip: i tried using livecd but i cant access gparted or my installed linux from my livecd
[16:23] <crazydip> someone's not getting help :D
[16:24] <dell2012> how do i use livecd to resize. Do i do it from the boot menu or when the livecd is loaded and ready to be used?
[16:24] <theadmin> dell2012: Wait for it to be loaded. Choose "Try Ubuntu" in the login/install screen. Find "GParted" in the menu.
[16:25] <theadmin> dell2012: The rest should be fairly self-explanatory. Although please note that if your "livecd" is actually a USB, the device you may need to select might not be /dev/sda but /dev/sdb.
[16:25] <wilee-nilee> dell2012, I this a wubi install perchance meaning a install from windows?
[16:26] <islandmonkey> ActionParsnip: sudo cp -arf /var/lib/dpkg /var/lib/dpkg.backup appears to be taking it's time, is this meant to happen?
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> islandmonkey: yes that will take a long time
[16:26] <dell2012> im using fedora and there is no gparted there. I know this is ubuntu but i have to register in #fedora and get an invite its alot of hazzle just to get some answers
[16:27] <islandmonkey> Suppose I sit back and relax :D
[16:27] <dell2012> wilee-nilee its a regular install
[16:27] <wilee-nilee> cool
[16:27] <txdv> dell2012: use the package manager and install it
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> dell2012: we don't support fedora here
[16:28] <dell2012> no gparted in the livecd
[16:28] <Pici> dell2012: then you're going to have to register and join. We do not support fedora here. period.
[16:28] <k1l_> dell2012: ask in the fedora forum then, if you wont join #fedora
[16:28] <bazhang> !register | dell2012
[16:28] <crazydip> dell2012: then you're going to have to use a different live cd (usb) --- if all you need is gparted, there is a super small live cd (usb) made by gparted people
[16:28] <wilee-nilee> dell2012, You don't need a invite just register
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> dell2012: or ask in #linux
[16:30] <wols_> I want to change the UI language of firefox in lucid. where would I do that? I installed firefox-locale-de but firefox still appears in english
[16:30] <dell2012> #linux channel is invite only
[16:30] <ikonia> dell2012: no it's not
[16:30] <bazhang> dell2012, no it's not
[16:30] <ikonia> dell2012: the channel is ##linux
[16:30] <dell2012> i just tried it
[16:30] <bazhang> ##linux is the channel
[16:30] <wols_> dell2012: you might need to be registered to nickserv
[16:31] <ikonia> dell2012: ##linux - not #linux
[16:31] <dell2012> ok
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> wols_: did you then change the language in firefox itself?
[16:31] <bazhang> dell2012, you're in the channel ##linux already
[16:31] <wols_> I did. in content - languages. any other place?
[16:32] <wols_> I also tried firefox -uilocale de  but still no go
[16:32] <bazhang> wols_, firefox addons is what I would suggest
[16:32] <dell2012> yes but i cant send to channel
[16:32] <wols_> which addon do you mean?
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> wols_: no idea personally, I don't use firefox
[16:32] <bazhang> dell2012, #freenode for further support
[16:32] <k1l_> dell2012: could you top to spoil the ubuntu support channel
[16:32] <dell2012> ok
[16:32] <crazydip> dell2012: if you just need a gparted live cd or usb go here: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[16:33] <bazhang> wols_, the firefox addon language support
[16:33] <islandmonkey> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/8czFAqGM - this happened
[16:33] <patrick> jj
[16:33] <matt__> Hii i know i can  install kde via software centre or is it better just to install kubuntu?
[16:33] <islandmonkey> when doing LANG=C;sudo apt-get update -o APT::Cache-Limit=25165824
[16:33] <dell2012> crazydip: ok so i burn gparted to a DVD and boot with only the gparted on that DVD?
[16:33] <bazhang> matt__, kubuntu-desktop is fine
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> islandmonkey: LANG=C;sudo apt-get update -o APT::Cache-Limit=65165824 && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:34] <bazhang> matt__, then choose at login window
[16:34] <wols_> bazhang: Deutsch (DE) Language Pack 16.0.1 is installed and active according to about:addons
[16:34] <matt__> bazhang, ok thanks, when i update is it useing kubuntu or ubuntu?
[16:34] <bazhang> matt__, depends what you choose in the login window, I have all four major DE on mine
[16:35] <ikonia> you seem to be struggling to grasp "#ubuntu is not the place to get help with Fedora"
[16:35] <ikonia> oops
[16:35] <matt__> bazhang, i mean if im runing ubuntu with kde the updates i get will they be from ubuntu?
[16:35] <crazydip> dell2012: well if all you want is to use gparted to change some partitions then yes, just use that -- and you can burn to dvd, cd or usb stick and it's super small
[16:35] <matt__> bazhang, and what are the four main DE?
[16:35] <bazhang> matt__, if you mean upgrade version instead of update?
[16:36] <ikonia> crazydip: please take it to ##linux - this isn't Fedora support
[16:36] <bazhang> matt__, kubuntu xubuntu lubuntu  ubuntu
[16:36] <ikonia> if you can't be bothered to get the correct channels for the correct support - that is your problem, #ubuntu does not pickup the slack
[16:36] <matt__> bazhang, basically im saying does it still use ubuntu repos for update manager?
[16:36] <lollo64it> islandmonkey: same problem to me. I had to remove playdeb/getdeb repositories ...
[16:36] <theadmin> matt__: (which are KDE, Xfce, LXDE and... well... Gnome+Unity, although I wouldn't call it a major desktop)
[16:36] <bazhang> matt__, they all use the same repos, yes
[16:37] <matt__> bazhang, ok thanks
[16:37] <Pulcherior> Hai
[16:37] <opakavic> hi guys
[16:37] <opakavic> Pulcherior: hi
[16:37] <opakavic> Pulcherior: what's up
[16:37] <Pulcherior> I've just installed Funtoo!
[16:37] <matt__> theadmin, im running gnome shell atm i like it but are theys till developing it? works and runs wonderful but looks ugly haha
[16:37] <D[4]ni> wols_: german translation stopped wrking for me too
[16:37] <opakavic> what is funtoo
[16:37] <D[4]ni> working*, so that seems to be a bug
[16:37] <matt__> bazhang, is your os ubuntu?
[16:38] <opakavic> haha
[16:38] <Pulcherior> Gentoo based distro
[16:38] <bazhang> opakavic, related to gentoo, and offtopic here
[16:38] <drmicrosoft> русские есть?
[16:38] <bazhang> !ru | drmicrosoft
[16:38] <opakavic> bazhang: yes i know
[16:39] <bazhang> opakavic, so why go offtopic
[16:39] <opakavic> bazhang: will not often...
[16:39] <theadmin> matt__: gnome-shell is the main thing the GNOME developers are working on nowadays, but well, it's not really the main shell for Ubuntu anymore.
[16:40] <matt__> theadmin, i know its a shame because works great, got nothing against unity just not my thing
[16:40] <theadmin> matt__: You can install it. Also, since Quantal there will be an official GNOME-Shell-based version of Ubuntu.
[16:41] <D[4]ni> "gubuntu"?
[16:41] <matt__> theadmin, is that the next version? so it will come with unity and gnomeshell?
[16:42] <theadmin> matt__: No, you know like they currently do Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu... Will be one of those lines
[16:42] <D[4]ni> matt__: it will be a separate download, like kubuntu/xubuntu, and it will also still be available for download on other ubuntu versions via apt
[16:43] <matt__> theadmin, oh ok thanks
[16:44] <matt__> D[4]ni, ok thanks whens that out? ill probs install it through ubuntu i never switch never see the point as they all are ubuntu underneth so i always install ubuntu and change the DE
[16:44] <D[4]ni> it will be out this month i guess.
[16:45] <matt__> D[4]ni, cool found this if your interested
[16:45] <matt__> D[4]ni, http://www.muktware.com/articles/3557/gubuntu-1204-ubuntu-gnome-shell-remix-review#.UHhI_BJ3_ac
[16:45] <theadmin> matt__: Look at the version number to know the release date: 12.04 means "Year 12, Month 04", meaning April 2012.
[16:45] <theadmin> matt__: So 12.10 is October 2012.
[16:46] <crazydip> will unity2d be deprecated in 12.10?
[16:46] <crazydip> in = as of
[16:47] <trism> crazydip: it is already gone in 12.10
[16:47] <BluesKaj> 12.10 release is next thurs , oct 18
[16:47] <crazydip> trism: good :) how's the upgrade from 12.04 going to look like, will be be removed or kept?
[16:48] <trism> crazydip: the packages are there but they are empty
[16:49] <crazydip> trism: ok, the normal "transitional package" deal - thanks!
[16:49] <islandmonkey> ActionParnsip: Everything is working now, thank you!
[16:49] <diverdude> i made this configscript: http://bin.cakephp.org/view/445950409 and saved it in: /etc/init/nodechatserver.conf. when i run start nodechatserver i get this error messae: start: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.11" (uid=1000 pid=14091 comm="start nodechatserver ") interface="com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.Job" member="Start" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination="com.ubuntu.Upstart" (uid=0 pid=1 c
[16:49] <diverdude> omm="/sbin/init"). What am I doing wrong?
[16:50] <ceed^> I'm getting this error when trying to update (apt-get): http://hastebin.com/tuhuleyije.md  Any idea what it means?
[16:50] <D[4]ni> trism: what will be shown when you start unity3d and 3d acceleration is off for some reasons (e.g. kernel update without reinstalling virtualbox modules)?
[16:50] <theadmin> ceed^: sudo apt-get clean ; sudo apt-get update
[16:50] <islandmonkey> !cookie | ActionParsnip
[16:50] <islandmonkey> ActionParsnip: Everything is working now, thank you!
[16:50] <ceed^> theadmin: thanks. I'll try that
[16:50] <trism> D[4]ni: llvmpipe is supposed to take over for software rendering in those situations with unity
[16:51] <trism> D[4]ni: which I believe we also have with gnome-shell in 12.10 (but I haven't tested either)
[16:51] <n1> hi. used sudo apt-get install - f xxx.deb , got message "unable to locate package xxx". Which folder to place it to?
[16:52] <Church> is fallback gnome-classic still option in 12.10?
[16:52] <trism> Church: yep
[16:52] <llutz> n1: sudo dpkg -i xxx.deb && sudo apt-get -f install
[16:52] <theadmin> n1: That, or use gdebi: sudo gdebi xxx.deb
[16:53] <Church> that's nice to hear. i fear for it to be removed in 3.6(?) or 3.8(?) gnome. IIRC i saw news something like that
[16:53] <theadmin> Church: There's MATE around though
[16:53] <theadmin> Church: Which is pretty much gnome2. Also Xfce is very similar.
[16:54] <Church> theadmin: i don't like for app global menu to not work in mate.
[16:54] <trism> Church: it is still in 3.6, don't know what will happen in the future
[16:56] <conley> Can I just install grub to the root directory Ubuntu is on?
[16:56] <conley> I want to chainload the bootloader from another
[16:57] <BluesKaj> conley, yes if you have a / partition
[16:57] <diverdude> i made this configscript: http://bin.cakephp.org/view/445950409 and saved it in: /etc/init/nodechatserver.conf. when i run start nodechatserver i get this error messae: start: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.11" (uid=1000 pid=14091 comm="start nodechatserver ") interface="com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.Job" member="Start" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination="com.ubuntu.Upstart" (uid=0 pid=1 c
[16:57] <diverdude> omm="/sbin/init"). What am I doing wrong?
[16:58] <conley> BluesKaj: ? What do you mean? How could I not have one?
[16:58] <litropy> Hi, all. I need to modify fstab so that my ntfs volume mounts with directories at 644 and files at 755,
[16:58] <BoxyK> How is the default route determined in Ubuntu if two network interfaces are available?
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> islandmonkey: sweet
[16:59] <litropy> ntfs external hd, to be more specific
[16:59] <litropy> currently, it mounts at 700
[16:59] <BluesKaj> conley, well ,i's usually easier if you have a separate / partition without your home dir on it , IME
[16:59] <conley> BluesKaj: Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah, I have that. I'm trying to figure out the best way to work with two linux installations on one disk..
[17:01] <schnuffle> BoxyK: If both set the default gateway, then the one which is configured a second set the gateway
[17:01] <AdvoWork> im trying to move files from one folder to another, someone gave me instructions earlier but ive just bloody lost what was said. I'm trying to do: cd /opt/test  then mv * /opt/new  it says it cannot because a folder in test "Directory is not empty" but i know its not, i want to move all the contents to /opt/new  but to not create a folder called test first
[17:01] <BoxyK> schnuffle: so the latest one wins?
[17:01] <bekks> BoxyK: No.
[17:02] <BluesKaj> conley, ok I have 2 linux installs on this drive , and the first / is where I grub installed , set in the bios as the first partition as well
[17:02] <schnuffle> BoxyK: was my impression but maybe bekks knows more about
[17:02] <bekks> Having two default gateways is an undefined situation. Expect to have things working just like when you have no gateway set.
[17:02] <bekks> The term "default" says it all :)
[17:03] <BoxyK> ok. I have two connections. On none of them there's DHCP activated. But Ubuntu still sets a default gateway. Do you know why?
[17:03] <schnuffle> bekks: a while ago I had that with wifi and eth0 and my impression that the second dhcp request sets the deault gateway and you only have one at the end
[17:04] <schnuffle> BoxyK: paste /etc/network/interfaces or do you use network manager?
[17:04] <bekks> schnuffle: Thats wrong :)
[17:05] <fraroco> Hello Everybody
[17:05] <schnuffle> bekks: thanx for the info then I'll retest it and check the setup
[17:05] <BoxyK> schnuffle: it's in the office. I can't paste it now. Sorry.
[17:05] <conley> AdvoWork: are you sure /opt/new isn't the thing that isn't empty?
[17:05] <n1> llutz and theadmin, at sudo dpkg -i xxx.deg received the message "error processing sudo cannot access archive dpkg: error processing gdebi", and with sudo gdebi xxx.deb recevied "command not found"
[17:05] <litropy> I'm seeing lots of recommendations of installing psydm to solve my issue, but I can't find it anywhere
[17:05] <theadmin> n1: sudo apt-get install gdebi then
[17:06] <BoxyK> bekks: Althogh I cannot paste /etc/network/interfaces, could you still imagine why I always automatically get a static host route set to my router?
[17:06] <L3top> conley: here is a little utility I wrote that fixes grub. grubin -h for usage. Very easy http://svn.linuxmce.org/trac.cgi/export/26556/people/l3mce/grubin
[17:06] <fraroco> I would like to ask some stuff about a editation text. I have a list of more than 150,000 lines and I want to insert a counter next to a condicionad line. Some can Help me?
[17:07] <L3top> conley: wget http://svn.linuxmce.org/trac.cgi/export/26556/people/l3mce/grubin; chmod +x grubin     to use.
[17:07] <Abrackadabra> Hi guys
[17:07] <bekks> BoxyK: network manager, rc.local, DHCP option, etc. there are several chances.
[17:07] <schnuffle> fraroco: what is a condicionad line. Some can Help me?? and in which format is your text?
[17:07] <BoxyK> bekks: i have one route 192.168.2.0/24 -- wlan0 and the route 192.168.2.1 -- eth0 is automatically added. After manually removing, it's set automatically again.
[17:07] <BoxyK> bekks: Networkmanager could be...
[17:08] <BoxyK> bekks: what's its configuration file?
[17:08] <bekks> BoxyK: Then nopaste the output of "netstat -rn" without modifying it please.
[17:08] <schnuffle> BoxyK: I guess network manager
[17:08] <conley> L3top: I don't want ubuntu grub installed to my mbr, I want Arch grub to chainload ubuntu grub
[17:08] <fraroco> schnuffle, the text format is fasta. I have a lot of '>gi' and I want to give number to each one ie. >gi1, >gi2 etc.
[17:08] <diverdude> i made this configscript: http://bin.cakephp.org/view/445950409 and saved it in: /etc/init/nodechatserver.conf. when i run start nodechatserver i get this error messae: start: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.11" (uid=1000 pid=14091 comm="start nodechatserver ") interface="com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.Job" member="Start" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination="com.ubuntu.Upstart" (uid=0 pid=1 c
[17:08] <diverdude> omm="/sbin/init"). What am I doing wrong?
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> fraroco: fraroco nl can be used to number lines in a stream
[17:09] <AdvoWork> conley, ive cleaned it now, so it is, but it was before i think, im doing: cd /opt/old and then: mv * /opt/zimbra/store/   is that correct?
[17:09] <BoxyK> bekks and schnuffle: I think so, too... I forgot to disable it. damn. Is there a documentation on Network Manager available?
[17:09] <conley> AdvoWork: I don't think mv can create levels of directories, but I could easily be wrong
[17:09] <schnuffle> fraroco: don'T know the format but doing the replacement is a typical awk job when the file is in normal txt format
[17:10] <L3top> Ok conley... that is a good idea... I should add a chainloading option.
[17:11] <fraroco> ActionParsnip,I see.  I guess pBRE can help me to inset  a number only in a line that contain my condicion text. right?
[17:11] <AdvoWork> conley, oh.  Anyone know how to move multiples files/folders which contain lots of subfolders too?
[17:11] <L3top> conley: AdvoWork you could first mkdir -p /a/lot/of/lvls/to/mv/a/dir/into  and it would creat it, then mv.
[17:11] <llutz> diverdude: just a guess: does user www-data have writeaccess to /var/log?
[17:11] <conley> AdvoWork: No, it will do that if you move the top level folder
[17:11] <conley> AdvoWork: It will move all the subdirectories as well
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> fraroco: I'd ask in #bash
[17:11] <fraroco> schnuffle, I could change the formant. How can I make this typical awk job? Can you help me?
[17:11] <AdvoWork> L3top, theres millions of subfolders though :S
[17:11] <L3top> AdvoWork: mv will move the subdirs as well
[17:11] <conley> AdvoWork: It won't create multiple initial directories for you
[17:12] <fraroco> ActionParsnip, Thakns!
[17:12] <diverdude> llutz: hmm that might be the problem...i dont think it has
[17:12] <llutz> diverdude: check using something like "....>> /tmp/nodejs.log"
[17:12] <AdvoWork> conley, ahh ok, so if ive got  oldfolder  and i do cd oldfolder (which contains 10000s of files/folders etc) and then do mv * /opt/new/store/  it will move all of them to /opt/new/store/  but *wont* create "oldfolder" first?
[17:12] <wad> I read that the Ubuntu download page was now requesting donations. I went to ubuntu.com, and tried to find a donate page. Eventually, I had to go to the download page. I made my donation ($15), then canceled the download. Ubuntu rocks, keep it alive!
[17:13] <conley> AdvoWork: You're making it hard for yourself :) Just 'mv oldfolder /opt/new/store/
[17:13] <L3top> AdvoWork: the destination directory must exist for you to move things to, but mv will grab all of the subdirs of the source dir.
[17:13] <schnuffle> fraroco: awk '{printf("%5d : %s\n", NR,$0)}' filename > filenamenumbered would add line numbers to a text file. To replce those >gi with >gix is just a bit more, but one would need to see the text
[17:13] <AdvoWork> conley, but what would create /opt/new/store/oldfolder ?
[17:13] <AdvoWork> L3top, ahh ok
[17:13] <diverdude> llutz: you mean sudo -u www-data "....>> /tmp/nodejs.log"  ?
[17:13] <conley> AdvoWork: mv would. it can create a single directory.
[17:14] <llutz> diverdude: yes, just to check  permissions-issue
[17:14] <llutz> diverdude: /tmp is world-writable
[17:14] <AdvoWork> conley, yeah but i dont want that, basically oldfolder is just a temp name,  i want my folders etc to go /opt/new/store/folder..  not /opt/new/store/oldfolder/folder..
[17:15] <diverdude> llutz: sudo: ....>> /tmp/nodejs.log: command not found
[17:15] <conley> AdvoWork: then you can rename it: mv /opt/new/store/oldfolder /opt/new/store/folder
[17:15] <schnuffle> AdvoWork: then mv /path/oldfolder /path/newfolder
[17:15] <conley> AdvoWork: The trailing slash is what makes the difference
[17:15] <llutz> diverdude: ...  to be replaced with your old command (i was too lazy to paste the whole line)
[17:15] <conley> AdvoWork: if there's a trailing slash, it goes inside that directory. If not, it doesn't.
[17:15] <llutz> diverdude: just replace /var/log/ into /tmp/
[17:15] <L3top> conley: is your arch using grub2? Because I wouldn't think you would need to chainload... simply installing/upgrading grub should find ubuntu, and other installs that are not grub1... as it is a chroot it would be an arch grub... in which case the utility would work.
[17:16] <llutz> with*
[17:16] <conley> L3top: it does, but what I install a new kernel in ubuntu, arch doesn't find them unless i regenerate the config
[17:16] <conley> L3top: but i hate grub so I may just put up with things
[17:17] <conley> neat. netsplit apparently
[17:17] <diverdude> llutz: mmm i dont think i understand
[17:17] <diverdude> llutz: command is not working for me
[17:17] <AdvoWork> schnuffle, i did: mv /opt/zimbra/temp_store /opt/zimbra/store   and its made /opt/zimbra/store/temp_store  which is what i was hoping to avoid,
[17:17] <llutz> diverdude: like this http://bin.cakephp.org/view/1122204182
[17:17] <L3top> conley: I see... yeah... I need to add chainloading.
[17:17] <conley> AdvoWork: you didn't put a trailing slash at the end?
[17:18] <rsc> Hello folks. Is it somehow possible to tell MySQL to start up before another specific daemon in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[17:18] <AdvoWork> conley, no, thats copied and pasted from my terminal
[17:18] <llutz> diverdude: and why does your script need HOME being set to /root?
[17:18] <schnuffle> AdvoWork: Sure you haven't inserted a / at the end?
[17:18] <AdvoWork> so now, how can i move /opt/zimbra/store/temp_store/(all files/folders) to just /opt/zimbra/store ?
[17:18] <AdvoWork> schnuffle, no, def no /
[17:18] <diverdude> llutz: well i followed this: http://kvz.io/blog/2009/12/15/run-nodejs-as-a-service-on-ubuntu-karmic/ and they wrote it was necessary
[17:19] <schnuffle> AdvoWork: Then you system works differently then mine
[17:19] <conley> wait. so store existed then. You need to delete it..
[17:19] <conley> AdvoWork: If store exists, mv tries to be safe and doesn't just overwrite everything
[17:19] <L3top> AdvoWork: mv /opt/zimbra/store/temp_store/* /opt/zimbra/store
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> AdvoWork: cp -r /opt/zimbra/store/temp_store /opt/zimbra/temp && rm -r /opt/zimbra/store/temp_store && mv /opt/zimbra/temp /opt/zimbra/store
[17:19] <conley> AdvoWork: You need to delete that directory if you want another directory to be it
[17:20] <diverdude> llutz: i changed it and it still gives me the same error
[17:20] <conley> AdvoWork: it seems very confusing now, but the core utilities do make sense eventually heh
[17:20] <llutz> diverdude: ok so i had a wrong guess. sorry, no idea then (i'm not familiar with upstart)
[17:20] <schnuffle> AdvoWork: Now I see, okay first mv /opt/zimbra/store/temp_store /opt/zimbra/storetemp, then rm  -fR  /opt/zimbra/store then mv /opt/zimbra/storetemp /opt/zimbra/store
[17:21] <llutz> diverdude: have you tried asking in #upstart?
[17:21] <diverdude> llutz: thx i will try that :)
[17:21] <schnuffle> diverdude: what was your problem?
[17:22] <pangur> How would I be able to return from Cairo-Dock to using Unity, please?
[17:22] <pangur> I miss my icons down the left
[17:22] <AdvoWork> schnuffle, ActionParsnip L3top conley thanks,all sorted now
[17:23] <schnuffle> AdvoWork: fine
[17:23] <pangur> I am trying to recover my system after (rashly) having begun removing perl.
[17:24] <intrader> I am able to see the cups server on a mac attached to my house network via 192.168.0.105:631. I have found no way to tell my ubuntu to print on through that server. How do I do this?
[17:24] <pangur> I now have Cairo-Dock on my screen but I want to return to Unity, I think.
[17:24] <n1> theadmin, whati if software centre replies "dependency is not satisfiable" ??
[17:25] <n1> need a package for ubuntu from this page
[17:25] <n1> https://forge.betavine.net/frs/?group_id=12
[17:26] <n1> usb modeswitch is already included within ubuntu
[17:26] <schnuffle> n1: what dependcies couldn't be resolved and which package do you want to install?
[17:26] <L3top> pangur: I would think you could just echo "/usr/bin/lightdm" > /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[17:28] <pangur> Thanks, L3top - permission denied though.  I need to go out now.  Will try it again later.  Thanks for the suggestion.
[17:28] <pangur> bash: /etc/X11/default-display-manager: Permission denied
[17:28] <L3top> pangur: sudo
[17:29] <pangur> sudo "/usr/bin/lightdm" > /etc/X11/default-display-manager is what I put in.
[17:29] <KaiserBun> Hey everyone, what is the best & simple music player. I'm not looking for a music manager like clementine or w/e
[17:29] <pangur> need to go though - wife pulling me out of chair.
[17:29] <L3top> sudo echo  "/usr/bin/lightdm" > /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[17:29] <woot-0854> kaaiser: vlc wrms in terminal
[17:29] <theadmin> L3top: not gonna work... Redirection is done by bash which doesn't run as root
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> sudo won't traverse the redirection
[17:30] <woot-0854> wrks*
[17:30] <llutz> echo  "/usr/bin/lightdm"|sudo tee /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[17:30] <theadmin> pangur: echo "/usr/bin/lightdm" | sudo tee /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[17:30] <L3top> that
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> L3top: echo  "/usr/bin/lightdm" | sudo tee /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[17:30] <overclucker> or sudo sh -c "echo blash > file"
[17:30] <n1> would like to get the vodafone dngle started within ubuntu
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> pangur: the sudo will only run on the echo command as it doesn't traverse the redirection, so you pipe to sudo tee, it will work
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> n1: what is its 8 character hex ID?
[17:31]  * L3top always forgets that... always runs around as root. Thanks ActionParsnip... for like the 5th time.
[17:31] <n1> a sec.
[17:31]  * pangur definitely needs to return here later.  Thanks ActionParsnip, overclucker, and L3top.
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> L3top: its cool, when you use the OS as user, you learn good habits
[17:31] <intrader> Anyone, I am able to see the cups server on a mac attached to my house network via 192.168.0.105:631. I have found no way to tell my ubuntu to print on through that server. How do I do this?
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> intrader: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu
[17:35] <dubaco> !help
[17:36] <intrader> ActionParsnip, I will look there, thanks - unfortunately, it the article discusses addressing an ubuntu print server. Mine is a print server (CUPS) running on a Mac. So I am quickly stumped by following the link.
[17:36] <jcsalomon> !patience
[17:37] <D[4]ni> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1275292/ <-- wut?
[17:37] <llutz> intrader: its no difference if you print to a mac-cups-server or ubuntu-cups-server. just add the printer as "ipp://mac-host/printers/QUEUE"
[17:37] <dubaco> ActionParsnip: i'm scared of getting gparted wrong. I am attempting to use it to resize my windows/linux/freespace on my hdd
[17:37] <jone> hello
[17:38] <MonkeyDust> D[4]ni  try sudo apt-get update, first
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> intrader: cups is cups
[17:38] <n1> ActionParsnip after lusb, the terminal reports this info ID 12d1:1003 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. E220 HSDPA Modem / E230/E270/E870 HSDPA/HSUPA Modem
[17:38] <llutz> intrader: err "ipp://mac-host:631/printers/PRINTERNAME"
[17:38] <D[4]ni> MonkeyDust: didn't change anything
[17:40] <the_dudez0r> Hi, I'm creating a new xsession via "sudo xinit /usr/bin/jwm -- :1" in order to play a game there (quake). The problem is, whatever application I launch from that session, is outputting sound through my laptop's speakers rather than through my usb headsets. As a regular user I have the sound configured to go through my headset, but since the new xsession is launched as root, this is not the case. How could I solve this?
[17:40] <the_dudez0r> Is it possible to launch a new xsession without sudoing (hence being root)?
[17:42] <rexwin_> dropping to initramfs prompt
[17:42] <rexwin_> can somebody help
[17:42] <n1> ActionParsnip you meant this 12d1:1003 ?
[17:43] <D[4]ni> MonkeyDust: nvm, ppa conflicted with official repo
[17:43] <rexwin_> alert /dev/disk/by-uuid/blah-blah doesnot exist
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> n1: yes, have you found any guides using that?
[17:43] <L3top> rexwin_: need more information... what are you trying to load, what version, did it ever work? What changed?
[17:43] <rexwin_> i can come into repair mode using the CD and then it shows perfectly the disks
[17:44] <D[4]ni> now i get this: Package gnome-shell-extensions-dock is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source However the following packages replace it: gnome-shell-extensions
[17:44] <D[4]ni> ...but i can't find a way to enable the dock
[17:44] <L3top> what is 12d1?
[17:44] <rexwin_> no it never did since the first install
[17:44] <rexwin_> somehow the / is not mounted
[17:44] <L3top> !details
[17:45] <overclucker> rexwin_: run blkid and see if that uuid is listed
[17:45] <rexwin_> blkid not found
[17:46] <intrader> llutz, ActionParsnip I will follow up - I don't know the printer PRINTERNAME
[17:46] <overclucker> Renski: then ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> n1: if you run:  gksudo gedit /lib/udev/rules.d/61-option-modem-modeswitch.rules
[17:47] <overclucker> rexwin_: oops, nick complete failure -->>
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> D[4]ni  always be careful with ppas
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> n1: add the line:     ATTRS{idVendor}=="12d1", ATTRS{idProduct}=="1003", RUN+="modem-modeswitch -v 0x%s{idVendor} -p 0x%s{idProduct} -t option-zerocd"
[17:47] <n1> ActionParsnip I recall after reading sthg about backtrack that with this code you determine dongle's "something" with some programs for cracking the dongles but what when I get that info? How to get it started within ubuntu?
[17:47] <DonkeyHotei> is there an quantal release candidate iso with the alternate installer anywhere?
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> n1 http://linux.frankenberger.at/Huawei_E220.html
[17:47] <jenia> hello everyone
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> n1 http://thoughtsandideas.wordpress.com/2012/04/11/workarounds-found-for-huawei-e220-on-ubuntu-11-10/
[17:47] <rexwin_> the above is the only file i have
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> n1: tonnes of guides
[17:47] <lancewf_> hello jenia
[17:48] <jenia> i downloaded a docs package and it sits in /usr/share/doc/....
[17:48] <jenia> what program should i use to read those docs
[17:48] <rexwin_> -----/dev/disk/by-uuid/pci-xxxxxxxxxx
[17:49] <rexwin_> the hard disk is not detected and loaded
[17:49] <intrader> llutz, ActionParsnip: in cups I find Queuename: HP_Deskjet_5400_series, Make and Model: Hp Deskjet 5400 series
[17:49] <rexwin_> i can see them when i go into repair broken system using the CD
[17:49] <rexwin_> mount usually has /dev/sda1 UUID=1f7b0979-6319-4795-96dd-729ae94f580c ext3
[17:50] <rexwin_> but now mount has nothing
[17:50] <rexwin_> no / mounted
[17:50] <rexwin_> that is the problem
[17:50] <L3top> rexwin_: mount will not have anything unless it is mounted... so it would appear
[17:51] <intrader> llutz, please repeat - I am unable in XChat to scroll back.
[17:51] <L3top> rexwin_: can you run fsck /dev/sda1
[17:52] <rexwin_> L3top, in repair mode
[17:52] <n1> ActionParsnip thank you
[17:52] <L3top> rexwin_: either from repare console or live disk...
[17:52] <rexwin_> got it
[17:52] <L3top> repair*
[17:53] <rexwin_> this is killing me:-(
[17:54] <overclucker> rexwin_: does fdisk -l show your disk / partitions?
[17:54] <intrader> llutz, please repeat - I am unable in XChat to scroll back.
[17:55] <rexwin_> in repair mode yes
[17:56] <rexwin_> in repair console everything is mounted and all seems to be perfect.
[17:56] <rexwin_> but i boot to first hard disk when boot without CD , nothing is mounted
[17:57] <rexwin_> there seems to be an issue with the UUID number
[17:57] <oconnore> so, something weird happened, and now when I hit <End> in vim it opens a new line above the current line and types an f.
[17:57] <oconnore> why?
[17:58] <overclucker> rexwin_: the part i dont get is the part about ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid not showing your partitions.
[17:58] <oconnore> when I hit <Home> it inserts an H.
[17:58] <rexwin_> yes.
[17:58] <rexwin_> oconnore, check mode
[17:59] <oconnore> rexwin_: mode?
[17:59] <hash_> so did i miss anything when i lost my connection
[17:59] <rexwin_> ls -l  /dev/disk/by-uuid/ has a file starting as pci-xxxx-xxxxx
[17:59] <rexwin_> that's all
[18:00] <Ad33b> I need help, can someone please help with disabling the Automatic mouse click in ubuntu 12.04
[18:00] <overclucker> rexwin_: in recovery can you: mount /dev/sda1 / ?
[18:00] <rexwin_> it mounted automatically, it shows fine in recovery mode
[18:00] <meisth0th> what was the channel for 12.10?
[18:01] <rexwin_> so it detected /dev/sda1 fine
[18:01] <trism> meisth0th: #ubuntu+1
[18:01] <rexwin_> but when i boot normally /dev/sda1 is not mounted
[18:01] <meisth0th> trism, thanks
[18:01] <hash_> I need a recommendation for an os to put on a p4 w/256MB to run audacity and xoscope
[18:01] <overclucker> rexwin_: so it's already mounted then. try changing the uuid to the disk label /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> hash_: lubuntu
[18:02] <hash_> ok
[18:03] <yekoms> what command in terminal can i use to adjust the volume?
[18:03] <L3top> yekoms: you can open alsamixer... or you can set it directly if you know the control name.
[18:03] <theadmin> yekoms: amixer or alsamixer
[18:03] <rexwin_> overclucker, i will get back to you once in recovery mode
[18:03] <yekoms> how do i use amixer?
[18:03] <intrader> ActionParsnip, llutz , I find and connect to ipp://192.168.0.105:631/printers/HP_Deskjet_5400_Series - When I view the print queue after requesting to print, I see 3minutes ago, pending
[18:04] <yekoms> im using amixer to get the level..but to set it?
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> intrader: right click the job and select authenticate
[18:04] <Ad33b> \quit
[18:04] <yekoms> i got it
[18:05] <yekoms> odd, my master limit is 74.
[18:05] <intrader> ActionParsnip, llutz , I find and connect to ipp://192.168.0.105:631/printers/HP_Deskjet_5400_Series - When I view the print queue after requesting to print, I see 3minutes ago, pending - pinter properties says The printer uri is incorrect.
[18:06] <intrader> ActionParsnip, no such option on right click
[18:06] <L3top> yekoms: aplay -l | grep card | awk '{print $2}' | uniq | sed 's/://g' | while read CardNumber; do amixer -c "$CardNumber" | grep '\[off\]' -B5 | grep "Simple" | sed 's/Simple mixer control //g' | grep -vi capture | while read MuteStatus; do amixer -c "$CardNumber" sset "$MuteStatus" unmute; done; amixer -c "$CardNumber" | grep '\[.*\%\]' -B5 | grep "Simple" | sed 's/Simple mixer control //g' | grep -vi capture | while read VolLevel; do
[18:06] <L3top> amixer -c "$CardNumber" sset "$VolLevel" 80%; done; alsactl store; done             that will unmute everything across all cards and set levels to 80% if they have levels
[18:07] <Asar> hey, what information can anybody offer about hosting webpages with Linux?
[18:07] <L3top> yekoms the numerical limit is not indicative of percent volume. You can use percents if you prefer. The limits vary across cards.
[18:08] <yggdrasil> hi, i havea .sh that i made and when i click it i always get run in terminal. is there anyway to get rid of that ?
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> intrader: did you add authorisation to the printer when you added it?
[18:08] <yekoms> wow thats ALOT for just volume adjust lol
[18:08] <Asar> yggdrasil, am fairly certain that has to do with mono
[18:09] <L3top> yekoms: it does more than just volume adjust. I use it to blow open everything on anything doing automatic configs for all sorts of hardware.
[18:09] <yggdrasil> well im wondering if i need to add /bin sh to the top of the script.
[18:09] <intrader> ActionParsnip, at some point I authorized as user of the mac. However the print job is as user intrader
[18:09] <L3top> yggdrasil: is it a bash script or a shell script?
[18:10] <L3top> .sh != bash
[18:10] <yggdrasil> its just a script that says rdesktop 192.168.0.5
[18:10] <yggdrasil> its jsut that i like to click that rather than open a terminal and type it.
[18:10] <L3top> I am not sure I understand your problem yggdrasil... the script runs, but it runs in a terminal... and you want it to open some sort of gui? Or it does not run?
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> L3top: bash script is a shell script, as bash is a shell, surely...
[18:11] <overclucker> yggdrasil: you mean it opens a gui terminal app when you click on it?
[18:11] <xoxotardada> fsck on a partition that at first freezed then failed to mount is taking only a second. I'm now running it with -c to check for bad blocks. Is there anything else I can do to ressurect it?
[18:11] <intrader> ActionParsnip, further, the 'View Attritbutes' option shows me a uri that referes to localhost - this is not correct - localhost is the ubuntu trying to print, the host is at 192.168.0.105:631
[18:11] <yggdrasil> i get a do you want to run blah.sh or display its content spopup. that says run in terminal. display run cancel
[18:11] <L3top> bash is a type of shell... but it is not sh.
[18:11] <bekks> xoxotardada: Dont run it with -c but use -f instead.
[18:12] <xoxotardada> bekks: oh, I see!
[18:12] <yggdrasil> overclucker: L3top you get it ?
[18:12] <xoxotardada> thanks for pointing out
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> L3top: true, sh is a shell, bash is a shell
[18:13] <overclucker> yggdrasil: so you want the script to execute without openg a terminal window?
[18:13] <yggdrasil> basically yes.
[18:14] <yggdrasil> i wouldnt even mind if it opened a terminal. but i asks me to run it in a terminal
[18:14] <overclucker> sh is a symlink to another shell
[18:14] <L3top> Kleenex is a facial tissue... other people call all facial tissues kleenex. I was just drawing the distinction.
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> L3top: gotcha
[18:15] <L3top> albiet poorly
[18:15] <yggdrasil> im actually ok with it opening a term window. but i have to click the script then , a popup comes up that says: do you want to run "foo.sh", or display its contents. "foos.sh" is an executable text file. then four buttons run in termina display cancel run
[18:15] <pranjal710> hi, I have an external hard disk. It shows 360 GB used, although the hdd is completely empty, is there a way I can check it. My OS is ubuntu 12.04
[18:16] <L3top> what is the name of the script yggdrasil
[18:16] <yggdrasil> yodainside.sh
[18:16] <Asar> so, any word about hosting a web-domain in Linux? Is anybody hosting with their Linux machine? Am curious about the functionability & features of doing private hosting
[18:16] <L3top> yggdrasil: there is a way to set executable scripts to always open... I dont remember how. I set mine to automatically be edited.
[18:16] <yggdrasil> hmm.
[18:17] <L3top> yggdrasil: I think what you would want to do though, is create an icon and link it to the script
[18:17] <yggdrasil> let me right click it.
[18:18] <yggdrasil> hmm wierd default application doesnt list terminal.
[18:18] <yggdrasil> oh well gotta go to lunch ill bb.
[18:18] <yggdrasil> its just been botherign me lately.
[18:18] <MaskilPDX> pranjal710, Check for hidden files
[18:19] <MaskilPDX> ctrl + h
[18:19] <L3top> yggdrasil: I think you wanna make a widget or whatever they are called in unity
[18:19] <yggdrasil> no i jsut opened a terminal. then i cd Desktop vi yodainside.sh , rdesktop 192.168.0.5 , esc : wq
[18:19] <MaskilPDX> Asar, I host 20+ websites on a linux box
[18:20] <yggdrasil> ill bbl
[18:20] <yggdrasil> take it easy.
[18:20] <yggdrasil> thansk for the input.
[18:20] <AdvoWork> Asar, i host 65 websites on one of my linux boxes, and then loads on others too
[18:20] <MaskilPDX> AdvoWork, What OS are you using?
[18:20] <Asar> MaskilPDX, what server software are you using & what are the potentials for hosting?
[18:20] <intrader> ActionParsnip, I delete the printer and start anew, it still insists on localhost when I view attibutes
[18:21] <Asar> am wanting to do server hosting where the website ports the server for accessing information remotely
[18:21] <MaskilPDX> I am running CentOS with WHM/cPannel
[18:21] <AdvoWork> MaskilPDX, erm a mixture actually, one server is ubuntu, one server is centos
[18:22] <pranjal710> MaskilPDX : I tried ctrl+h to see hidden files, but in vain. Could you please tell me how to look for bad sectors in ubuntu. When I tried to do benchmark test for drive performance, it said a partition detected, but I dont see a partition
[18:24] <MaskilPDX> I have a VS though a local company.  I have root and all
[18:24] <kthxbye> are you rich
[18:25] <MaskilPDX> pranjal710, Not sure about any ubuntu software, but I would recommend spinrite by GRC
[18:25] <intrader> llutz, I tried ipp://192.168.0.105:631/printers/HP_Deskjet_5400_Series and it configures a printer with uri localhost which is not 192.168.0.105
[18:26] <pranjal710> but  spinrite is not free!! :(
[18:26] <MaskilPDX> yea, I know
[18:26] <Guest57497> doesnt kodak provide necessary software similar to cloud
[18:27] <bekks> kodak is dead, to be honest. :)
[18:27] <schnuffle> pranjal710: fsck is a tool to check partitoions
[18:27] <hash_> Can i just right click an iso and click write to disk... to create a install cd
[18:27] <Guest57497> having probs but still running on a lower rate
[18:28] <Guest57497> to hash no
[18:28] <intrader> Anyone, this is frustrating - why does ubuntu no detect a cups server on the network. I am configuring a printer, I use uri 'ipp://192.168.0.105:631/printers/HP_Deskjet_5400_Series' but printer applet insists on configuring localhost instead
[18:28] <hash_> Thats what i thought and i cant remember how i did it before
[18:28] <SO2012> +
[18:28] <CaptainKnots> I accidentally deleted the private ppa sources in ubuntu for software purchased from the software center. Is there a way to get them back so I can update the apps other than uninstalling and reinstalling all of them?
[18:29] <Guest57497> cuse burn an image in burner software
[18:29] <hash_> like brasero
[18:29] <Guest57497> dont know not tried
[18:30] <Guest57497> you should have an option to burn from disc image if a good burner software
[18:30] <user_> hye
[18:30] <user_> satu
[18:30] <crazydip> CaptainKnots: yes there is
[18:31] <xangua> !partner | CaptainKnots
[18:32] <cuqa> Hey, I am trying t install Ubuntu on an Dell Optiplex 740 machine. Problem is once the install navigation shows up and I select anything from it the machine freezes. Doesnt matter if I choose Install Ubuntu, or just help
[18:32] <crazydip> xangua: i think he meant those specialized repo's that you get with a hashed path
[18:32] <Guest57497> does this mean anything to anyone "68684 11194 38374 76940 02662
[18:32] <Guest57497> 80844 25463 89092 32723 48944
[18:32] <Guest57497> 60162 81855 34192 47854 09901
[18:32] <Guest57497> 97313 56004 73374 97465 91719
[18:32] <Guest57497> 55840 91561 49620 06817 73471
[18:32] <Guest57497> 53916 04111 69175 54222 04293"
[18:32] <FloodBot1> Guest57497: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:32] <cuqa> Is there maybe a command I can add that at least could show me an error?
[18:33] <crazydip> CaptainKnots: go into ubuntu software center -> file -> reinstall previous purchases
[18:33] <Guest57497> oops  sorry forgot about flood
[18:34] <crazydip> CaptainKnots: or if you want an actual repo url list:  https://software-center.ubuntu.com/subscriptions/
[18:34] <M1R4G3> Hello i have to recover a NTFS Partition, maybe someone have a idea?
[18:35] <crazydip> i wish ubuntu would not make it so insanely stupid to log into that list (no links on the page)
[18:35] <Guest57497> hi m1r4g3 have you tried partition magicc
[18:36] <M1R4G3> no i don't thanks for the answer i will try it :)
[18:36] <marijnsch> Just installed 12.04.1, but wireless doesn't work. Something with the firmware apparently. How do I go about upgrading that?
[18:36] <tiox> Parted Magic is a nice, free utility. Though if you're looking for Gibson's SpinRite, that stuff is everywhere. Not hard to find it (illegal) free.
[18:37] <crazydip> intrader: you should find all the information you need here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu
[18:38] <tiox> marijnsch: Run jockkey-gek / Additional hardware
[18:38] <tiox> jockey-gtk*
[18:38] <M1R4G3> Thanks for the help guys i will try it :)
[18:38] <Guest57497> too many k`s
[18:38] <tiox> Guest57497: No racism. :P
[18:39] <Guest57497> wasnt a racist comment idiot
[18:39] <Guest57497> too many k1s in jokkey
[18:39] <tiox> I was *kidding*, but nonetheless jockey-gtk (the interface for jocket, and the thing that pops up for additional hardware) seeks closed-source software and drivers.
[18:40] <tiox> jockey*
[18:40] <GodFather> join #backuppc
[18:40] <tiox> Right, I just woke up, bear with me. :)
[18:40] <Guest57497> misssin / there godfather
[18:40] <marijnsch> tiox: Just says that there are no prop drivers in use.
[18:41] <tiox> What? Hmm -- What hardware are you trying to get working?
[18:41] <GodFather> Guest57497, thx
[18:41] <M1R4G3> @tiox - is it possible to get parted magic on to ust flash stick, i don't have any CD's here :-/
[18:41] <Guest57497> your welcome
[18:41] <tiox> Yes!
[18:42] <marijnsch> tiox: something that is supposed to work with iwlwifi kernel driver, but there is a problem with the used firmware...
[18:42] <Guest57497> yep will fit ideal for disc recovery from boot if bios capable
[18:42] <cdan> hello
[18:42] <intrader> crazydip, I will read. It should be a lot simpler as the cups server announces itself. I have read that, when I use ipp://192.168.0.105:631/printers/HP_Deskjet_5400_Series the printer applet configures the locahost cups
[18:42] <tiox> Guest57497: Install unetbootin, then install through there if you want an easy solution.
[18:42] <marijnsch> tiox: it's a 24:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6205 (rev 34)
[18:42] <M1R4G3> thanks for the help tiox
[18:43] <rhollan> anyone have preseed experience here?
[18:43] <marijnsch> tiox: apparently the issue is fixed in quantal beta, so I need to upgrade kernel and/or firmware
[18:44] <jrib> rhollan: I don't but you're more likely to get help if you just ask your real question
[18:44] <witakr> Hey folks
[18:44] <Guest57497> hi witakr
[18:44] <witakr> Can anyone recommend an application for filling out PDF files?
[18:44] <rhollan> I want to reuse settings. For example, after interactively getting netcfg/get_hostname and netcfg/get_domain, I want to set the krb5-config server settings FROM them and not reprompt
[18:44] <witakr> heya Guest57497
[18:45] <rhollan> krb5-config/default_realm the tr [a-z] [A-Z] version of the domain, etc.
[18:45] <Guest57497> hey witaky what do you meen filling out
[18:46] <witakr> Well, I have some PDF files which are forms and instead of printing them and handwrighting them I want to be able to fill in the fields before I print the form.
[18:46] <witakr> Similar to NitroReader for windows.
[18:46] <tiox> marijnsch: See if you can't get away with using the latest version of the software.
[18:47] <Guest57497> you need a pdf editor similar to nitro to edit a pdf file directly
[18:47] <tiox> Ask what's involved in #ubuntu+1
[18:47] <witakr> yeppers
[18:47] <cdan> anybody here with a Latitude E5400 ?
[18:47] <Guest57497> n0 e1.19
[18:48] <Guest57497> n 53.28
[18:48] <Guest57497> oops w1.19
[18:49] <d1gital> Is there a netbeans package for PHP editing support?
[18:49] <d1gital> bluefish is starting to drive me nuts.
[18:50] <dubaco> xnox: bluz has not worked since 11.10 for me
[18:51] <witakr> Guest57497, n 53.28?
[18:51] <Guest57497> no n 53.28 w1.19
[18:51] <schnuffle> cdan: me
[18:51] <witakr> I don't understand what that means.
[18:51] <witakr> Sorry
[18:51] <rhollan> anyone know how to configure krb5-config preseed options based on already-obtained domain and host for netcfg?
[18:51] <marijnsch> how do I go about updating just the kernel/firmware?
[18:52] <Guest57497> sorry witajr different chat they are coordinates
[18:52] <cdan> schnuffle: is sound working ok for you ?
[18:52] <schnuffle> marijnsch: just install the new kernel and firmware
[18:52] <Eagleman> Any idea about this: WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[18:52] <Eagleman>   linux-libc-dev
[18:52] <schnuffle> cdan: yes
[18:52] <marijnsch> schnuffle: but how? They are not there in synaptic, or?
[18:53] <cdan> schnuffle: I have ubuntu 12.04 TLS installed and the sound volume is very low
[18:53] <Guest57497> bye room thanks for help bye
[18:53] <cdan> schnuffle: I can bearly here something in the speakers with the volume turned 150%
[18:54] <cdan> schnuffle, any idea ?
[18:54] <schnuffle> cdan: hmm, have youn openend alsmixer to see how the levels are?
[18:54] <MaskilPDX> marijnsch, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:54] <cdan> schnuffle: sure, everything is 100%
[18:54] <marijnsch> MaskilPDX: won't that bring me from 12.04 to 12.10?
[18:55] <MaskilPDX> Yes, your right.  Sorry
[18:55] <intrader> Anyone, I have configured via the printer applet a printer connected to a Mac  ipp://192.168.0.105:631/printers/HP_Deskjet_5400_Series. The applet configures a localhost printer istead! Please help.
[18:55] <overclucker> marijnsch: dist-upgrade doesn't do that
[18:55] <Pici> !dist-upgrade | marijnsch MaskilPDX
[18:55] <MaskilPDX> OkropNick, now I am confused
[18:56] <Eagleman> Any idea about this: WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[18:56] <Eagleman>   linux-libc-dev
[18:56] <Eagleman> SHould i proceed?
[18:57] <marijnsch> Pici: alright, let me give it a try. Is that different btw from jsut installing all updates in other ways such as thru update-manager?
[18:57] <Pici> marijnsch: its no different than using update-manager.
[18:58] <marijnsch> Pici: hmm, in that case I already tried it. It upgraded the kernel a tiny bit, but apprently not enough :(
[18:58] <AdvoWork> how can i make a symlink from a file called /etc/test/test.cfg to appear in /etc/test/auto called test ? ive done ln -ls /etc/test/test.cfg /etc/test/auto/test but it fails
[18:58] <M1R4G3> tiox are u there?
[18:58] <Eagleman> What faild AdvoWork?
[18:58] <schnuffle> cdan: not sure but have you checked bios settings, if there something to tweak?
[18:59] <AdvoWork> Eagleman, it said ls: cannot access test: No such file or directory
[18:59] <schnuffle> cdan: I can't check right now because i'm on a newer model
[18:59] <overclucker> AdvoWork: did you use sudo?
[18:59] <amine_> bonsoir  j arive pa a joit fr
[19:00]  * komer is away: (Auto-Away after 10 mins) [BX-MsgLog On]
[19:00] <Eagleman> do it as root and recheck the source and destination of they exist
[19:00] <overclucker> AdvoWork: ah, create the directories first
[19:00] <Eagleman> they have to exist
[19:00] <cdan> schnuffle: do you remember tweaking something ? or did it work from the start ?
[19:00] <marijnsch> amine_: type /j #ubuntu-fr
[19:00] <AdvoWork> ahh fixed it thanks
[19:00] <schnuffle> cdan: as far as i rememeber it worked from the start
[19:01] <schnuffle> cdan: but i don't know if it was 10.04 or 12.04
[19:01] <cdan> hmmm
[19:01] <cdan> schnuffle, I'll try 10.04 live , just for a test
[19:01] <cdan> schnuffle, good idea
[19:02] <marijnsch> I'm on 3.2.0-32-generic #51-Ubuntu, how do I go to 3.4 say?
[19:03] <amine_> join #ubuntu-fr
[19:03] <marijnsch> amine_: ne pas oublie le \
[19:04] <MaskilPDX> Do most people use Thunderbird on Ubuntu?  Sometimes it's laggy
[19:05] <MaskilPDX> marijnsch, I am also on 3.2.0-32
[19:05] <amine_> merci
[19:05] <marijnsch> MaskilPDX: it has a bug that's affecting my wireless..., so I need something newer
[19:06] <MaskilPDX> What wireless card do you have?
[19:07] <MaskilPDX> Here is a link for Kernel 3.6.1 -- http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/10/install-linux-kernel-361-on-ubuntu.html
[19:07] <Wizard> WHoa, what for?
[19:10] <CaptainKnots> crazydip: the repo url list is exactly what I was looking for
[19:10] <CaptainKnots> thanks
[19:10] <crazydip> you're welcome
[19:11] <Hellchico> Hi, can someone plz tell me where I can get help for a sound problem on 12.04?
[19:11] <Iszak> Can I completely install ubuntu 12.04 on my macbook air 2011 ?
[19:11] <Iszak> no dual boot, no boot camp, wipe OSX and ubuntu only
[19:12] <jrib> !mac | Iszak
[19:12] <amine_> bonsoir a tous
[19:12] <jrib> Iszak: should be fine though I don't personal experience with that particular model
[19:13] <Iszak> jrib what model have you used?
[19:13] <jrib> Iszak: macbook 4,1 but see the wiki
[19:13] <Iszak> jrib same one
[19:13] <Iszak> oh nvm, 4,2
[19:13] <jrib> Iszak: but mine is not an air
[19:14] <Wizard> *yawn*
[19:14] <jrib> Iszak: fwiw linus has a macbook air and runs linux on it...
[19:14] <Iszak> that page seems to think macbook air 4,2 was released in 2006
[19:14] <amine_> jai une  cle internete j  arive pas a instaler
[19:15] <Iszak> I think that page needs an update.
[19:15] <jrib> Iszak: how are you determining yours is 4,2?
[19:15] <Iszak> jrib system report
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[19:16] <jrib> Iszak: probably a mistake on that page
[19:17] <Iszak> so.. how to do it? that page doesn't help me unfortunately.
[19:18] <jrib> Iszak: why doesn't that page help you?
[19:18] <Iszak> jrib it doesn't list my model
[19:18] <jrib> Iszak: the model pages are really only relevant to fix small issues that come up after install
[19:19] <Iszak> jrib okay.. so then what page do I want to do a clean install of ubuntu?
[19:19] <bekks> The 4,2 is listed there.
[19:19] <bekks> "4,1 4,2
[19:19] <bekks> early/mid 2006
[19:21] <Iszak> except it's not 2006, it's 2011, and the url's next to it goes to an even older version.
[19:21] <jrib> Iszak: if you don't want to dual boot then you shouldn't have to do anything special, just run the installer and follow the instructions
[19:21] <Iszak> jrib alright, thanks - are you sure?
[19:21] <jrib> Iszak: I've never actually done it.  But that is my understanding
[19:21] <MonkeyDust> Iszak  best way to find out, is by trying, it then makes you the expert
[19:22] <Iszak> heh, thanks.
[19:22] <jrib> Iszak: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation#Single-Boot:_Ubuntu_Only
[19:22] <saratsista> How can I install iptables into my ubuntu virtual machine?
[19:22] <Iszak> when will bunt get native EFI booting?
[19:23] <Iszak> thanks jrib
[19:23] <jrib> Iszak: i keep a small partition for os x so I can install firmware updates
[19:23] <skyline> hi
[19:24] <Iszak> jrib necessary?
[19:24] <jrib> Iszak: not necessary, but I then you won't get the updates from apple
[19:24] <islandmonkey> Hi skyline
[19:24] <skyline> How can I install iptables into my ubuntu virtual machine?
[19:24] <jrib> s/I//
[19:24] <jrib> skyline: you already have it
[19:24] <Iszak> jrib what good will the apples be to me? they don't effect the ubuntu hardware?
[19:24] <skyline> yeah
[19:24] <jrib> Iszak: there are firmware updates from time to time I believe
[19:24] <jrib> skyline: you already have iptables
[19:24] <Iszak> jrib how big did you make your partition?
[19:25] <islandmonkey> !iptables | skyline
[19:25] <klaxtr> hi, i wonder if it's possible to writte an script so the unity bar has the behaviour like tab changing, when i click on the icon in the unity bar can take me to the last active application... something like this, does any one knows if this can be done?
[19:25] <jrib> Iszak: I don't remember.  Probably whatever the used size was + 5gb
[19:25] <Iszak> jrib umm so full disk + 5 GB? impossible.
[19:26] <MonkeyDust> klaxtr  better ask in a scripting dedicated channel
[19:26] <Iszak> by default it uses the full disk, no?
[19:26] <jrib> Iszak: Well if my os x install was using 10GB out of 120, then I shrunk the partition to 15GB
[19:26] <OerHeks> klaxtr see my-unity tool to tweak the unitybar behaviour
[19:26] <viks> hey i am newbie in ubuntu......i want to know how to start programming for ubuntu app? can anyone help me with this
[19:26] <viks> ?
[19:26] <Iszak> jrib oh right, got it - thanks. will need to reinstall as this osx installation is pretty used.
[19:27] <ChrisWere> Hey guys. Nvidia-Settings won't pick up the correct resolution on my primary monitor. It worked fine until recently.
[19:27] <skyline> no. I couldn't download them. the apt-get is not working. I am getting an error called  Temporary failure resolving ‘archive.ubuntu.com’
[19:27] <bekks> viks: There is no "ubuntu app". There is just "start programming an application".
[19:27] <viks> bekks ....i mean that only ......
[19:27] <Iszak> jrib alright wish me luck!
[19:27] <jrib> skyline: couldn't download what exactly?
[19:27] <klaxtr> OerHeks:where is it...
[19:27] <jrib> Iszak: you won't ... need it
[19:27] <viks> how to start writing a script to change ubuntu according to needs
[19:27] <MonkeyDust> klaxtr  in the software center
[19:28] <OerHeks> klaxtr, see softwarecentre > myunity
[19:28] <klaxtr> OerHeks: can this behaviour be achieved with this appl
[19:28] <bekks> viks: Depends on what you want to change.
[19:28] <klaxtr> i have it install already
[19:28] <MonkeyDust> klaxtr  maybe you find what you need in the myunity tool
[19:28] <crazydip> viks: here is a good place to start - notice the "Programming Guides and Basics" post: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=39
[19:28] <ChrisWere> Hey guys. Nvidia-Settings won't pick up the correct resolution on my primary monitor. It worked fine until recently.
[19:28] <viks> just thinking it would be better if i can modify some things in unity lens
[19:29] <viks> thanks crazydip ...will look this up
[19:30] <crazydip> viks: how to create a unity lens: http://developer.ubuntu.com/2012/04/how-to-create-a-wikipedia-unity-lens-for-ubuntu/
[19:30] <viks> thanks dude.....
[19:30] <M1R4G3> @Hellchico install Gnome-Alsa-Mixxer maybe that will work
[19:30] <gregor3005> hi, i try to install ubuntu 12.04 minimal and i get an error that no network was detected with error "error whil running 'modprobe -v yenta_socket'"
[19:30] <crazydip> viks: you're welcome
[19:31] <gregor3005> with the desktop edition the network are detected
[19:31] <ChrisWere> Hey guys. Nvidia-Settings won't pick up the correct resolution on my primary monitor. It worked fine until recently.
[19:33] <ChrisWere> a little help maybe?
[19:33] <ChrisWere> hello?
[19:33] <ChrisWere> Hey guys. Nvidia-Settings won't pick up the correct resolution on my primary monitor. It worked fine until recently.
[19:34] <gregor3005> anybody know the right command from the bootmenu to install a minimal system?
[19:34] <M1R4G3> u can change your resolution into the settings for both dislpay/screens
[19:34] <ChrisWere> it's not picking up the correct resolution
[19:35] <_Trullo> how shall I put this line in fstab? sudo mount -t aufs -o br:/media/1/dir1=RO:/media/2/dir2=RO \ none /mnt/dir3
[19:36] <ChrisWere> is this the famous Ubuntu community support? It's a joke.
[19:36] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> haha
[19:36] <MonkeyDust> !patience| ChrisWere
[19:36] <M1R4G3> remove it and install  the nvidia drive again but just with your primary screen, put any other screens off
[19:37] <ChrisWere> M1R4G3: is that actual help or are you telling me to do this as a shot in the dark
[19:38] <skyline>     Hi I cannot download the ip tables for my ubuntu virtual machine. I am getting the error "Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead." and also "Temporary failure resolving ‘us.archive.ubuntu.com’
[19:38] <yekoms> ChrisWere, either take whats offered or dont, we wouldnt tell anyone anything that would cause intended harm.
[19:39] <witakr> Ok, Sorry I had to step away for a few. Does anyone know of a good PDF reader like Nitro for windows that will let the user fill the PDF forms out before printing?
[19:39] <jrib> skyline: why are you ignoring what I've told you?  I've told you twice now that you already have iptables.  What exactly are you doing now that is giving you the "... index files failed ..." output?  Use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste full input and output
[19:39] <M1R4G3> ChrisWere it's just a try, u don't have to do that maybe u can find another way to fix your problem
[19:39] <ChrisWere> yekoms: I don't mean anything by it, it just didn't sound like serious advice
[19:39] <jrib> witakr: doesn't the default one (evince) do that?
[19:39] <M1R4G3> I just try to help u and tell u my idea's nothing more
[19:39] <witakr> jrib, Does it? I don't know. I'm in Xubuntu 12.04 specifically so I don't know if I even have that one. one sec.
[19:39] <islandmonkey> !attitude | ChrisWere
[19:40] <yekoms> ChrisWere, it seems like he gave a valid test to start fixing your issue.
[19:40] <islandmonkey> ...or correct
[19:40] <jrib> witakr: I believe it does; I remember using it with my taxes :x
[19:40] <yekoms> cant fix without diagnose.
[19:40] <skyline> jrib: sorry, I do not have the iptables. even the command "iptables" is not working. I am getting error "bash command not found"
[19:40] <ChrisWere> islandmonkey: I apologise, I'm just had far too many bugs with Ubuntu, and I'm self employed so it costs me money everytiem something like this happens
[19:40] <gregor3005> only-ubiquity helps from the boot menu
[19:40] <jrib> skyline: did you see what I said about pastebin?
[19:41] <AdvoWork> if i cant run a server but have it mounted, how can i see the cronjobs for a specific user, are they stored in a file?
[19:41] <witakr> jrib, I don't see anything in evince that indicates an abililty to add text or edit. It appears to be only a viewer.
[19:42] <jrib> witakr: you should just be able to click on the text field you want to fill
[19:42] <jrib> AdvoWork: use crontab
[19:42] <AdvoWork> jrib, i cant boot the server
[19:42] <AdvoWork> so i can only access files on it :S
[19:43] <jrib> AdvoWork: is this still that really old ubuntu you have... ?
[19:43] <AdvoWork> jrib, nah, thats long gone, this is on ubuntu 10.04 server now
[19:43] <puddle> guys I am using Ubuntu 12.04.1 and I installed gnome but it will not install the latest gnome, how can i install the latest release?
[19:43] <jrib> AdvoWork: you could chroot or look in /var/spool/cron/crontabs/
[19:43] <AdvoWork> but ive just done another migration, and that server is now old, i cant boot it due to the same ip/conflics etc
[19:44] <islandmonkey> puddle: Wait 6 days and it will be with you (12.10 is coming :))
[19:44] <AdvoWork> jrib, thats empty :S this is also for a specific user too "zimbra" user
[19:44] <witakr> jrib, Ok ok ok. I think I should clearify. I forgot that you can make PDF forms to be filled without any special program but this particular form was designed to be printed and handwritten even though I have the option to type. That being said the fields are not editable fields but rather they are just lines.
[19:44] <ChrisWere> Okay I've restarted X with one screen, and I still can't find the right reslution
[19:44] <jrib> witakr: ah, there are certainly some tools that let you annotate PDFs but I don't remember their names
[19:44] <puddle> islandmonkey, you mean my ubuntu will upgrade to 12.10 or i have to install it? i dont want to install new ubuntu:p
[19:45] <yekoms> it should upgrade from -current- to -12.10- if you choose so.
[19:45] <islandmonkey> puddle: It won't automatically upgrade
[19:45] <puddle> but that wont be tls
[19:45] <puddle> lts
[19:45] <jrib> AdvoWork: you're sure /etc/cron.* or /etc/crontab wasn't used instead of the user's crontab?
[19:45] <ChrisWere> so what do I do now guys?
[19:45] <islandmonkey> puddle: Let me search for a PPA you could use, hold on
[19:46] <skyline> jrib: I pasted my input and output
[19:46] <witakr> I appoligize for the confusion but yes. Now that I remember the app I used in windows when I had windows mentioned it was an ANNOTATION program
[19:46] <isasha> Hai
[19:46] <puddle> either way is there a way to install the latest before 12.10?:p
[19:46] <isasha>  I have an issue with my display. It's telling me that the input mode is not supported, even in failsafeX mode… any ideas
[19:46] <isasha> ?
[19:46] <puddle> islandmonkey, ty :)
[19:46] <jrib> ChrisWere: if you're speaking to someone specific, please address them.  If not, then no one knows what you are talking about and you should just ask your (detailed) question on one line and be patient
[19:46] <witakr> jrib, ^^ forgot to add yu name to the line lol read up..lol
[19:46] <ChrisWere> jrib: They just went offline. Now I'm stuck in the middle of my probelm
[19:47] <isasha> jrib: should I be patient too?
[19:47] <isasha> for some reason people always forget what I asked
[19:47] <puddle> come on guys jrib is trying to help
[19:47] <puddle> :)
[19:47] <ChrisWere> isasha: join the club looks like jrib is the only one here who actually knows anything
[19:47] <jrib> isasha: it''s safe to repeat ~10 minutes depending on traffic in case someone else can help
[19:47] <isasha> oh
[19:47] <isasha> ok
[19:48] <jrib> skyline: you need to provide the url here in the channel to your pastebin
[19:48] <puddle> ChrisWere, i dont think it is a good idea to say that loud
[19:48] <islandmonkey> puddle: Well, there is the GNOME testing PPA: https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/testing
[19:48] <puddle> *out
[19:48] <skyline> jrib:http://paste.ubuntu.com/1275529/
[19:48] <jrib> witakr: I would just google "annotate pdf ubuntu" and look for hints.  One that comes up is "xournal" so you might try that
[19:49] <puddle> islandmonkey, well ty im not that brave:p
[19:49] <isasha> witakr: Xournal is actually real good
[19:49] <isasha> I use it to take notes in class with my gfx tablet
[19:49] <Jayflux> hey guys, when i do add user <username> pass for a user, they cannot log in to ftp. But when i do passwd <pass again> they can.
[19:49] <jrib> skyline: try "/sbin/iptables"
[19:49] <Jayflux> Whats going on?
[19:49] <witakr> jrib && isasha word. That sounds good I will check that. Thanks a ton.
[19:49] <Jayflux> adduser <username> -p pass I mean..
[19:49] <puddle> islandmonkey, i just wanted a version that can actually install extensions since the one in the ubuntu repo is not allowing me to do so
[19:49] <jrib> Jayflux: uh, are you sure you are using adduser?
[19:49] <puddle> but testing ppa is too risky
[19:49] <skyline> jrib: i am getting error : "No such file or directory"
[19:50] <isasha> witakr: do you have a graphics tablet?
[19:50] <ChrisWere> puddle: I'm sorry It's just is takes me half a day for anyone to help me, considering how often ubuntu messes up on me, I lose a lot of work hours trying to fox ubuntu
[19:50] <Jayflux> jrib sorry I think i mean useradd
[19:50] <jrib> Jayflux: that expects a crypted password there :)
[19:50] <chuckf> Jayflux: can the user log into the shell and not ftp when you do it that way?
[19:50] <puddle> ChrisWere, if you dont like ittry something else, but I doubt theres a better distro out there
[19:50] <puddle> :p
[19:50] <Jayflux> no im trying to automate this as much as possible. Its going to be an automated system so its scripted
[19:50] <witakr> I have a couple tablets, Kindle Fire (I know...) and HP Touchpad with Cm9... is that what you mean?
[19:51] <Jayflux> chuckf jrib ^
[19:51] <Jayflux> the end user won't have shell access
[19:51] <ChrisWere> puddle: I'm not dissing ubuntu as a distro, I'm just saying I spend a lot of time trying to fix it.
[19:51] <jrib> ChrisWere: you said you had the resolution before and then it just disappeared.  I'd try to figure out why that happened (what changed?) if you have no other advice
[19:51] <witakr> isasha, or do you mean a tablet for graphics designers?
[19:51] <isasha> yeah
[19:51] <ChrisWere> jrib: nothing changed. I've even reinstalled
[19:51] <isasha> though the way you put it makes it sound expensive
[19:52] <jrib> !resolution | ChrisWere
[19:52] <jrib> ChrisWere: there are some tips there for adding another resolution
[19:52] <puddle> ChrisWere,  imagine back when debian was only installable through console no fancy stuff, that took some time, doing your kernel by hand :p
[19:52] <islandmonkey> puddle: That's funny. GNOME 3.2 is the version in precise (the one that supports extensions).
[19:52] <puddle> this is just child game
[19:52] <witakr> isasha, No. I don't I use a trackball. I want a tablet but I can't justify the expense because I do fine for my needs with my marble trackball
[19:52] <jrib> skyline: how did you install this ubuntu?
[19:52] <islandmonkey> puddle: And I need to go to the loo, wait one moment
[19:52] <puddle> islandmonkey, hm thats funny extnesions.gnome.org says i have a version that doesnt allow me to install them
[19:52] <isasha> you'll be able to find one for less than 50$, and they're amazing
[19:52] <Treize> is there a universal method in linux to set default programs or does it depend on the desktop environment? for example setting the default text editor for .txt
[19:53] <isasha> I have a Wacom Bamboo pen & touch, and it's phenomenal
[19:53] <ChrisWere> puddle: I guess ubuntu isn't stable yet. Hopefully one day it'll get there
[19:53] <isasha> Several other people now do the same thing because of me
[19:53] <witakr> isasha, I hear they are really nice to have. I like to draw and sketch and that would, I would think, be a fairly easy transition for me.
[19:53] <puddle> ChrisWere, wel the last 10 years I was waiting for Linux to become as you say stable
[19:54] <puddle> didnt happen so far:P
[19:54] <puddle> I wouldnt wait for that to happen anytime soon, but itsg etting there, thus im considering leaving windows completely
[19:54] <witakr> isasha, you mean for actual graphics design or for normal everyday use?
[19:54] <isasha> well the fact that my mom can use it straight away should give you an indication of how easy it is
[19:54] <ChrisWere> puddle: I know right. It's cost me a fortune
[19:54] <Beta2K> Hello all
[19:55] <isasha> witakr: both actually
[19:55] <Beta2K> Anyone run into mysql deciding not to start after a reboot on 12.04?
[19:55] <puddle> ChrisWere, what did cost you a fortune?
[19:55] <puddle> -.-
[19:55] <jrib> Beta2K: no one
[19:55] <ChrisWere> puddle: using ubuntu on my computer I use for work
[19:55] <jrib> Beta2K: (you should just say what your issue is)
[19:56] <puddle> Beta2K, what did you do to it before restart? OO
[19:56] <witakr> isasha, hmm. Sounds interesting. Maybe I will have to check it out. Can you suggest a good model for graphics design?
[19:56] <Beta2K> I had mysqld running, added some databases, a few weeks and reboots go by, go to use it again and it's not running
[19:56] <isasha> witakr: well I dunno
[19:56] <puddle> ChrisWere, I do not want to be a jerk but thats probably not Ubuntu's fault
[19:56] <skyline> jrib: I downloaded this from my college website.  I am competing in a challenge given by my professor. I am new to linux.
[19:56] <Beta2K> try to start it with sudo service mysql start and get "start: Job failed to start"
[19:56] <isasha> I just use a Wacom Bamboo, the cheapest one I could find with decent reviews
[19:56] <jrib> Beta2K: can you start it now, with the "service" command?
[19:56] <gswain> so is it pretty easy to grow and shrink the size of and lxc container?
[19:56] <jrib> skyline: downloaded what exactly?  Some sort of virtual image?
[19:56] <islandmonkey> puddle: Right, back.
[19:56] <skyline> yes
[19:56] <gregor3005> is it possible to install ubuntu on a given encrypted partition with lvm?
[19:57] <Beta2K> Nothing appears to be going into the mysql logs
[19:57] <puddle> ChrisWere, first off you should not use a system for work if you are not experienced with it
[19:57] <islandmonkey> !lvm | gregor3005
[19:57] <isasha> The resolution isn't as good as I would like it to be, but more than enough for every day use. You could go up all the way to a Cintiq which costs like 2000 bucks… so it's up to you witakr
[19:57] <puddle> islandmonkey, okay ty for the help btw
[19:57] <jrib> skyline: well it's a pretty strange ubuntu install if you don't have /sbin/iptables.  What happens when you try to use apt-get (use pastebin)?
[19:57] <thechaser> i know thius is prolly the wrong place to ask... but there irc channel isnt work anyone know anything about aircrack?
[19:57] <timer_> Hi
[19:57] <puddle> ChrisWere, you should work on a system you know and learn the one you desire to use later on, thats what im doing
[19:58] <islandmonkey> puddle: OK, so make sure you are installing them while on GNOME
[19:58] <ChrisWere> puddle: perhaps but they say it's far more stable than it is. They say the communtiy support is better than it is. But I've been using ubuntu for a good few years, and it still comes up with bugs and errors I've never seen before
[19:58] <jrib> thechaser: sorry, not supported here
[19:58] <skyline> jrib: how can I record the input and output from the command line?
[19:58] <isasha> thechaser: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+use+aircrack
[19:58] <jrib> skyline: are you in a graphical environment?
[19:58] <puddle> ChrisWere, thats because Linux is actually being developed continuously
[19:58] <Flannel> isasha: Please never answer questions like that.  Thanks.
[19:58] <thechaser> thanks.. uyeah i just had a small problem but figured it out sorry for the bother
[19:58] <Beta2K> there's a bit in the syslog about init: mysql main process being terminated and respawned
[19:58] <skyline> no. I am in shell
[19:58] <puddle> whilst other systems are only fixed from time to time and only major releases are new
[19:58] <isasha> Flannel: :D
[19:58] <timer_> I have a problem with serial connection
[19:59] <jrib> !who | Beta2K
[19:59] <Beta2K> tas well as  type=1400 audit(1350071838.574:39): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_replace" name="/usr/sbin/mysqld" pid=2555 comm="apparmor_parser"
[19:59] <puddle> islandmonkey, thatsa no brainer:p
[19:59] <timer_> I use cutecom and it doesn't connect
[19:59] <islandmonkey> puddle: Are you using Chrome?
[19:59] <puddle> yup
[19:59] <islandmonkey> puddle: Right, try using Firefox.
[19:59] <puddle> islandmonkey, okay gona try that
[19:59] <timer_> but in /proc/tty/driver/serial is an uart
[20:00] <Beta2K> jrib, sorry I was trying to give as much information to everyone hoping someon had seen this behaviour before
[20:00] <witakr> isasha, lol if I made graphics design my profession then i could see spending 2k on one but I think my limit might be in the 100-200 range..lol
[20:00] <ChrisWere> puddle: anyways.after all this advice I still can't get the resolution 1280x960 to show up in nvidia-settings
[20:00] <isasha> you may want to check out your junkyard, I wound a Wacom Intuos 3 there a couple of months ago
[20:01] <witakr> isasha, Half the fun of buying things online for me in the research and reading reviews so i think when I am ready to actually buy I will find something suitable.
[20:01] <jrib> Beta2K: can you verify there's no "mysqld" process running? Then I'd suggest trying to start it without using "service" and instead just calling the command the service command tries to call (I don't know how to really debug upstart services)
[20:01] <puddle> ChrisWere, I am just thinking out loud but back when we had to configure x by xorg.conf or whatever, we only had to add it to the file and it worked
[20:01] <isasha> witakr: are you going to use it for taking notes or for graphic design though?
[20:01] <puddle> maybe something similiar will work for you too?
[20:01] <Beta2K> jrib, no mysqld isn't running (ps xa | grep mysql)
[20:02] <puddle> Beta2K, usually when something like this happens means you did something that breaks the server, config or peration
[20:02] <ChrisWere> puddle: every time someone on here's told me to edit x, it's always broken it
[20:03] <puddle> ChrisWere, well that is tricky but backup your conf before editing
[20:03] <puddle> and you are all set even if u mess it up
[20:03] <crazydip> ChrisWere: ware you using open or closed source drivers?
[20:03] <Beta2K> puddly, I haven't touched the config, but it may have been upgraded by apt
[20:03] <Eagleman> Any idea about this: WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[20:03] <Eagleman>   linux-libc-dev
[20:03] <puddle> id try to remove mysql and reinstall it maybe that will help
[20:03] <Eagleman> SHould i proceed?
[20:03] <puddle> but maybe someone clever will give u a better advice
[20:04] <puddle> tho apt will only update to stable release
[20:04] <puddle> so i doubt its the case
[20:04] <Beta2K> Problem with removing mysql-server is I'll loose the databases :)
[20:04] <witakr> isasha, graphics design and probably nothing else. I have an unnatural adoration for my trackball...lol I love using my track ball. But I do quite a bit of graphics design for my own purposes and so then it wouldn't be a device I would use for normal computer use. just graphics design.
[20:04] <islandmonkey> Eagleman: Yes
[20:04] <puddle> did you work on your databases before restart?
[20:04] <puddle> i mean in that session
[20:05] <isasha> Ok then you should probably get a used intuos
[20:05] <isasha> it's cheaper than a new one
[20:05] <jrib> please use #ubuntu-offtopic for the non-support discussions
[20:05] <Eagleman> islandmonkey isnt it unsafe?
[20:06] <islandmonkey> Eagleman: Do sudo apt-get update and if anything fishy comes up at the end (like apt moaning about invalid signatures), try this: http://pastie.org/pastes/5044988/text
[20:06] <timer_> can someone help me with an uart-connection?
[20:06] <kthxbye> sudo apt-get is the god command
[20:06] <islandmonkey> Eagleman: No it isn't, the only place linux-libc-dev could come from is the trusted Ubuntu repos
[20:07] <user__> Anybody with experience in linux/BSD server PM me, please.
[20:07] <Eagleman> And what if the repo''s are filled with hacked files?
[20:07] <Lockscreen> Anybody with experience in linux/BSD server PM me, please.
[20:07] <Eagleman> cracked*
[20:07] <kthxbye> then switch to gentoo
[20:07] <crazydip> !question | Lockscreen
[20:07] <Eagleman> !pm Lockscreen
[20:08] <islandmonkey> Eagleman: Then it would be talk of the IRC channel and everything Ubuntu
[20:08] <[twisti]> hello, is there any up to date documentation for ubuntu lts 12 and dovecot ? or am i going to have to go through source to figure out how this is supposed to work ?
[20:08] <jrib> Eagleman: you should find out where that package is coming from
[20:08] <kthxbye> !question | lockscreen
[20:08] <jrib> [twisti]: doesn't the server guide at help.ubuntu.com cover it?
[20:08] <Eagleman> any idea on how to jrib?
[20:08] <jrib> Eagleman: apt-cache policy PACKAGE
[20:09] <[twisti]> jrib: no. its just copy and paste from 10, but its wrong. the actual dovecot stuff has been updated
[20:09] <FloatingGoat> does anyone know the name of the gui network manager?
[20:09] <jrib> [twisti]: we're talking about https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/dovecot-server.html ?
[20:09] <[twisti]> to support, as far as i can tell, dynamic updating of email protocols, because theres a new one every week
[20:09] <[twisti]> yes
[20:09] <Eagleman> jrib looks like it is coming from ubuntu
[20:09] <jrib> Eagleman: pastebin
[20:10] <jrib> FloatingGoat: it's actually called... *drumroll*... NetworkManager
[20:10] <Eagleman> http://pastebin.com/mQC2S978
[20:10] <kthxbye> its ALL AMD64
[20:10] <crazydip> timer_:  check out gtkterm or http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/find-out-linux-serial-ports-with-setserial/
[20:10] <[twisti]> i just want to find out how to enable pop3s
[20:10] <Eagleman> it comes from security but the package isnt secure
[20:10] <jrib> Eagleman: can you pastebin the warning you got earlier too?
[20:11] <Eagleman> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[20:11] <Lockscreen> The entire project will need about 250 machines, and I want them to be dumb thin clients with no hard drive running a virtualized mirror of the server OS. want them to have Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. Someone told me that the best way is a BSD server with cage linux for the clients, is that true? What system specs would I choose for both the clients and the server machine?
[20:11] <Eagleman>   linux-libc-dev
[20:11] <jrib> [twisti]: try #dovecot I suppose.  And if the guide is wrong, I'd urge you to file a bug
[20:11] <FloatingGoat> whats the name for instalatiom via terminal
[20:11] <jrib> Eagleman: can you pastebin the full outptu?  It's easier for me to keep track of things
[20:11] <islandmonkey> Eagleman: Then it's OK, it's probably related to a problem I had
[20:11] <jrib> !apt | FloatingGoat
[20:12] <[twisti]> jrib: its not wrong. its the guide for 10. it has nothing to do with 12, everything in it is for 10, not 12
[20:12] <Eagleman> http://pastebin.com/xBmvpTxD
[20:12] <jrib> [twisti]: then it's wrong since it's in the 12.04 guide
[20:12] <Eagleman> !guide [twisti]
[20:12] <Eagleman> Dont use guides, use manpages and build it urself
[20:12] <[twisti]> i suppose thats true
[20:12] <timer_> @crazydip, thanks I will take a look
[20:12] <[twisti]> Eagleman: that doesnt seem like sensible advice for an ubuntu channel
[20:13] <[twisti]> that sounds like a recipie for having all future updates be worthless or mess up your homebrewed crap
[20:13] <[twisti]> if i wanted to build everything myself i would have chosen to go with something like linux from scratch
[20:13] <Eagleman> Not at all, i was talking about building the config files or editing them
[20:13] <jrib> Eagleman: run « sudo apt-get update » and confirm the warning remains
[20:14] <Eagleman> it did not
[20:14] <jrib> Eagleman: the warning went away?
[20:15] <Eagleman> Y
[20:15] <[twisti]> the config files are not the way dovecot expects them
[20:15] <Eagleman> Which config files?
[20:15] <[twisti]> its some weird dynamic crap that someone apparently decided was the new way for ubuntu 12
[20:15] <islandmonkey> Eagleman: Did it come up with this at the end however (see line 424)?: http://pastebin.com/mjGE3Dbv
[20:15] <[twisti]> /etc/dovecot/*
[20:16] <[twisti]> its like 30 files that get dynamically included for god knows what purpose
[20:16] <jrib> [twisti]: there might be something useful in /usr/share/doc/dovecot*/README.Debian
[20:16] <Eagleman> it did not
[20:17] <islandmonkey> Oh nvm then
[20:17] <Eagleman> [twisti] those files are supposed to be there, read http://wiki2.dovecot.org/BasicConfiguration
[20:17] <phaedral> looking for laid-back, distro-agnostic, quick grasp of difference between ubuntu-studio and debian with the right tasksel
[20:18] <Eagleman> using turtorials or howto''s from google will get you even in more trouble, they are out of date or wrong
[20:18] <phaedral> Most important, I think, is getting the right kernel; don't know if the debian tasksel for av production does that automatically
[20:19] <phaedral> Eagleman: They're great...if one consumes wisely, checks the milk-carton before drinking, etc.
[20:19] <Eagleman> can i switch the kernel without restarting?
[20:19] <phaedral> Eagleman: +1 question, I want answer too.
[20:20] <genii-around> Eagleman: Not usually
[20:20] <islandmonkey> Eagleman: I think that's impossible.
[20:20] <Eagleman> doing an apt-get dist-upgrade and was wondering, i remembered my teacher saying something about it
[20:20] <[twisti]> Eagleman: thanks, i must have been looking at the 1.x wiki
[20:20] <genii-around> islandmonkey:  With ksplice it's possible
[20:20] <Eagleman> [twisti] i had the same problem
[20:20] <phaedral> I think I've actually got my question sorted out and feel a little bad about starting at the wrong end of it, and in the wrong channel. :(
[20:22] <puddle> islandmonkey, you were right firefox solved my issue:p
[20:22] <puddle> ty
[20:24] <islandmonkey> puddle: There has been a longstanding issue with Chrome (and other WebKit browsers) that means the site is unable to check the version of GNOME running
[20:25] <islandmonkey> !yay | puddle
[20:25] <AresTheLion> question, backports are kind of badly described at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports, can someone describe them to me?
[20:28] <Dr_willis_> !backports
[20:28] <puddle> islandmonkey, well i shouldve known since im a webdeveloper, thought of it but i was like, nah it must be something else
[20:28] <puddle> :P
[20:29] <JoeyJoeJo> How can I add an option to the kernel line in grub.cfg?
[20:29] <Dr_willis_> So a version of say...  gedit in 12.10 might/could get 'backported' to earlier releases.
[20:29] <Dr_willis_> But its  not really common. ;)
[20:29] <AresTheLion> So, if im going to download crunchbang is it necessary to get backports?
[20:29] <guntbert> JoeyJoeJo: edit /etc/default/grub   (and remember to rund sudo update-grub afterwards)
[20:30] <puddle> hm wish everpad would work under gnome -.-
[20:30] <Dr_willis_> backports is a repository of some packages...
[20:30] <jayar> when i'm using rythm box, i make the playlist, then send to burn, and it opens Brasero, but it burns it as audio CD...
[20:30] <Dr_willis_> AresTheLion,   cruchbang has its own support channels you may want to ask  this on.
[20:30] <jayar> how do i tell it to burn an mp3 cd (data) ?
[20:30] <AresTheLion> Dr_willis, Yes, but backports are native to Ubuntu I thought
[20:31] <Dr_willis_> AresTheLion,  no idea how crunchbang uses the defaultubuntu repos or not.
[20:31] <AresTheLion> kay
[20:31] <Dr_willis_> its just a 'specialized' repository for containign apps that might  have been bacported from newer releases
[20:34] <ChrisWere> puddle: okay so I've tried just about everything. I'm still at a loss
[20:34] <puddle> ChrisWere, whats the issue again? I am kinda lost atm
[20:35] <ChrisWere> puddle: my screen resolution 1280x960 has disappeared from nvidia-settings
[20:35] <puddle> ow yeah
[20:35] <ChrisWere> puddle: i thought it might have had something to do with dual monitors but I've removed my second
[20:36] <puddle> well you either search for an other driver (remove existing one before of course) or reinstall it remove old before again
[20:36] <puddle> that is what I would do
[20:36] <puddle> well it very well could be that
[20:36] <ChrisWere> puddle: my driver is the offical nvidia one. I can't get support from anywhere if i change it out.
[20:36] <puddle> well i wouldnt expect much from the official one
[20:37] <ChrisWere> puddle:removing my 2nd monitor was the first thing I did. Considdering Linux is designed for vteran computer users, I think it's really silly that support for dual monitors isn't that great. The offical one is the only one that seems to have any support or endorsment
[20:38] <puddle> i doubt that but maybe someone more experienced can help you with it more then I can
[20:38] <islandmonkey> Can MATE be used with Unity installed?
[20:38] <ChrisWere> puddle: yeh but there's no-one mroe experienced here
[20:39] <puddle> i doubt taht too:p
[20:39] <MaskilPDX> ChrisWere, You may have already said this, 32 or 64 bit?
[20:39] <islandmonkey> Or, to rephrase that, is there a way for MATE to work without uninstalling Unity
[20:39] <islandmonkey> ?
[20:39] <puddle> islandmonkey, what are you using now? unity?
[20:39] <islandmonkey> Yep
[20:39] <ChrisWere> MaskilPDX: I'm running 64bit version of ubuntu
[20:39] <puddle> islandmonkey, well cinnamon, kde, gnome unity works here for me all installed
[20:40] <MaskilPDX> I had issues with 64, went to 32bit
[20:40] <puddle> mate  should i guess work too
[20:40] <MaskilPDX> ChrisWere, Expecially with video
[20:40] <ChrisWere> MaskillPDX: I considdered that, but I have 8gig of ram
[20:40] <Dr_willis_> cant say ive had any issues with 64bit on my nvidia systems.
[20:40] <puddle> 64bithere too but i did not use my 2nd monitor yet tho
[20:41] <islandmonkey> puddle: I know it doesn't work, I was asking if there was a way for MATE to work with Unity installed. :)
[20:41] <MaskilPDX> Me too.  32 bit with pae kernel, no problem
[20:41] <Dr_willis_> islandmonkey,  id have to suggest the mate homepage/forum/support areas  since its not part of ubuntu;s repos
[20:41] <puddle> islandmonkey, yeah I noticed I was just trying to say it should work as the other ones do :P
[20:41] <ChrisWere> MaskillPDX: It used to work okay. But today for some reason it didn't want to comply.
[20:41] <MaskilPDX> ChrisWere, ok
[20:42] <MaskilPDX> Just a thought
[20:43] <ChrisWere> MaskilPDX: And to be honest everytime I come on here for advice, the useual advice I get is to do a re-install or to switch distros. I'd rather not do that this time
[20:44] <MaskilPDX> ChrisWere, I understand.  I did not have any issues with 64 bit 12.10 when it first came out.
[20:45] <MaskilPDX> I just stuck with 32 bit and pae.  No reason to go 64 bit
[20:45] <MaskilPDX> maybe next week, it will be better?
[20:45] <MaskilPDX> with the release of 12.10
[20:45] <ChrisWere> MaskillPDX: I lose 4 gig of RAM if I go 32bit
[20:45] <Dr_willis_> 64bit can be a bit faster in compiutationally intense tasks. :) like viden reencoding
[20:45] <Dr_willis_> PAE kernel lets you use all your ram Chris_0076
[20:45] <Dr_willis_> oops chrisward
[20:46] <Dr_willis_> I give up. ;P
[20:46] <MaskilPDX> ChrisWere, With the pae kernel, you can access all your RAM
[20:46] <jayar> how do i share the CD burner, so i can burn from a windows machine?
[20:46] <Dr_willis_> ive seen some 'benchmarks' a year+ back that showed pae kernel a little slower then 64bit kernel.
[20:46] <MaskilPDX> I have 8gb on 32 bit
[20:47] <bekks> So you cant use more than 4GB per thread.
[20:47] <ChrisWere> MaskillPDX oh interesting. Do you install PAE kernal from the repos?
[20:47] <Dr_willis_> pae kernel is the default for 32bit installes i think on 12.04+
[20:47] <Dr_willis_> except on Lubuntu and perhaps xubuntu.
[20:48] <MaskilPDX> Installs automaticly
[20:48] <flash_> Hi guys. I need a lifesaver. I have just accidentally copied one file to another location and overwritten the destination file. I need that file back. How do I do it?
[20:48] <MaskilPDX> yea Dr_willis_
[20:48] <RWOverdi1k> Gwibber is not connecting to facebook. It's just saying "Success" and that's it. Why?
[20:49] <bekks> flash_: By grabbing your backup and restoring that file from your backup.
[20:50] <flash_> I have not manually created a backup.
[20:50] <bekks> Then you've lost that file.
[20:50] <flash_> It's a php file that I've opened with vim.
[20:50] <flash_> Is there some way it might have been saved to some location?
[20:51] <bekks> flash_: Nope.
[20:51] <bekks> flash_: Do you have the original file still open in some vim?
[20:51] <flash_> I don't.
[20:52] <bekks> Then you've lost it.
[20:53] <trism> RWOverdi1k: bug 1058672
[20:54] <RWOverdi1k> trism: I'm not getting a security warning.
[20:54] <RWOverdi1k> Ah I see.
[20:54] <RWOverdijk_> That's annoying.
[20:54] <RWOverdijk_> It's integrated but not functional. :p
[20:57] <herpladee> nautilus keeps crashing for no apparent reason and with no error messages, where does it log stuff for me?
[20:58] <ChrisWere> so guys is that what the leading piece of advice is? reinstall my distro?
[20:58] <Dr_willis_> ChrisWere,  im not clear on what the original problem is/was/ ;)
[20:59] <ChrisWere> Dr_willis_: cricky! if I'm not being told to be patient, I'm being told to repeat the problem YET AGAIN! I can't get the resolution 1280x960 to appear in my Nvidia-Config and it was there this morning
[21:00] <gridwest> Does the Python library miniUPnP come with ubuntu 12.04?
[21:00] <Dr_willis_> so theres higher res's avail? or you have lost the highest it could do?
[21:00] <yekoms> everytime i issue 'apt-get install package' i get FATAL -> Failed to fork., ive googled and found that im out of ram, what else can cause this?
[21:00] <crazydip> ChrisWere: you're not paying attention
[21:00] <ChrisWere> Dr_willis_:I've lost the highest I could do, it's just dissapeared
[21:01] <ChrisWere> crazydip:what?!
[21:01] <crazydip> ChrisWere: are you using open or closed source nvidia drivers?
[21:01] <Dr_willis_> ChrisWere,  but all the other res's are still there?   this a hdmi or vga monitor? or built in laptop?
[21:01] <bekks> yekoms: Investigate the output of "ps aux"
[21:01] <Dr_willis_> what is the hightest res it will let you do?
[21:01] <yekoms> thats what i thought, i dont get the error, but someone installing eggdrop via apt-get is.
[21:01] <ChrisWere> crazy: it's a vga, I used to have to have a 2nd which was a vga going to a HDMI through a converter
[21:02] <bekks> yekoms: Pastebin the output please.
[21:02] <ChrisWere> Dr_willis_ :the resolutions go up to 1152x864
[21:03] <Dr_willis_> this is a LCD monitor? Some of the res's seem very... weird. ;)
[21:03] <ChrisWere> Dr_willis_:No it's a regular one
[21:04] <Dr_willis_> its an old fashioned VGA Tube type Moniotor that can do 1280x960?  Thats somthing id never seen befor.
[21:04] <MindALot> ubuntu masters, I need your help
[21:04] <ChrisWere> Dr_willis_: does this mean your giving up on me?
[21:05] <MindALot> specifically - I cannot seem to find a way to change my default sound to NOT use my headset when it is plugged in
[21:05] <MindALot> note : currently, not running pulseaudio,  speakers do work if I unplug the headset from the front jack
[21:05] <Dr_willis_> ChrisWere,  how i recall it working. X/drivers query the monitor and the monitor reports back wht modes it can handle. those hdmi/vga adaptors can confuse the process. but you said its just a straight vga connection correct?
[21:06] <ChrisWere> Dr_willis_: yeah it's only when I try using the 2nd monitor where I need to use a converter
[21:06] <MaskilPDX> Dr_willis_, Bad able maybe?
[21:06] <MaskilPDX> sorry.. cable
[21:07] <Dr_willis_> well for starters id run the 'nvidia-settings' tool and make sure you are in fact using the nvidia driver, not some other driver.  I think the xrandr command can report what modes the monitor 'reports' back that it can use.  double check that the mode is being reported back.
[21:07] <Dr_willis_> it might be possible to have xrandr force the mode.
[21:09] <ChrisWere> Dr_willis_ what command would I use to get xrandr to force the mode?
[21:10] <Dr_willis_> not sure. ive not used xrandr in ages.. Im on a windows box so cant check its options
[21:10] <Dr_willis_> i tend to just set my res to the native of the lcd and thats where it stays. ;)
[21:11] <genii-around> ChrisWere: There's some xrandr examples at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[21:12] <Dr_willis_> used to be xrandr diddnet work properly with the nvidia drivers i recall. but i thought it has been updated these days.
[21:12] <ChrisWere> genii-around: I'm still a bit lost, any chance of a hand?
[21:13] <genii-around> ChrisWere: I'm not going to be here long enough, leaving work shortly.
[21:13] <zykotick9> Dr_willis_: rotate can still be an issue with nvidia & xrandr.  "issue" but still possible ;)
[21:14] <TJ-> Dr_willis_: the latest nvidia v304+ introduced full RandR support
[21:15] <zykotick9> TJ-: good to know, thanks.
[21:15] <ChrisWere> so what do this mean?
[21:17] <ChrisWere> i don't know how much more of this i can take
[21:18] <TJ-> ChrisWere: Have you pastebinned the "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" yet? That will reveal what the drivers know about the monitor
[21:19] <ChrisWere> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/R1QkYR4U
[21:20] <javierf_> hi!
[21:21] <TJ-> ChrisWere: "(WW) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Unable to read EDID for display device CRT-1"
[21:21] <TJ-> ChrisWere: That means, Unable to read the resolution data for the VGA device
[21:21] <TJ-> Chris_0076: I'd wiggle the connectors and cables if I were you!
[21:21] <TJ-> oops
[21:21] <javierf_> hi! How can I know which icon is using each indicator in unity's top panel? I want to try manually changing some, but can't figure out where to look, which ones are in use or which is the folder it looks at. Thanks!
[21:21] <TJ-> ChrisWere:  I'd wiggle the connectors and cables if I were you!
[21:21] <Chris_0076> TJ-, ok, will do
[21:22] <ChrisWere> tj-: really?
[21:22] <trism> javierf_: you can't tell just by looking at them, because each indicator can have multiple entries and they can be sorted separately, which are you curious about?
[21:23] <kulitorum> After changing monitor to an old 1920x1080 monitor, my resolution is 640x480 and I can't make it any higher. The monitor is using a 15pin D-SUB connector, so I guess there's no data communication. What do I do?
[21:23] <ChrisWere> tj-: did you mean me?
[21:24] <TJ-> ChrisWere: Yes :p
[21:24] <TJ-> Tab-completion error
[21:24] <ChrisWere> TJ-: I've tried do  I need to restart?
[21:24] <Dr_willis_> i recall ways to use xorg.conf to force differrent modes.
[21:24] <javierf_> trism, thanks, I'm trying to work with user status icons, those that show, for example in empathy, if you are online, not available, invisible...
[21:25] <TJ-> ChrisWere: Log-out and log-in to the GUI should be enough
[21:25] <trism> javierf_: ahh that would be indicator-messages which in 12.04 is manipulated with libindicate but in 12.10 will be using libmessaging-menu
[21:25] <_Trullo> how is this line gonna look in fstab? sudo mount -t aufs -o br:/media/1/dir1=RO:/media/2/dir2=RO \ none /mnt/dir3
[21:26] <TJ-> Dr_willis_: Looks like ChrisWere's PC is using the v295 nvidia drivers, so it won't have full xrandr support (only that metamode silliness)
[21:26] <kulitorum> Where is xorg.conf?
[21:27] <zykotick9> kulitorum: doesn't exist, by default.
[21:27] <zykotick9> kulitorum: but /etc/X11/xorg.conf if it does ;)
[21:29] <javierf_> trism, but, what I know if that, changing icon theme, those icons change. Thing is, those in my icon theme are not displayed nicely, and I would like to go to that icon-set and changing those icons for some I like more. I've done that before succesfully, but this time I can't figure out how to do it. I found where those icons where places (status->48), removed them and place new ones with the same name at the same place. But I don't get it to display the
[21:29] <javierf_> icons I placed there (which where 24 pix instead of 48 cause I didn't have the 48 ones) but other ones that I have no idea where are them. So, now it's just a matter of discovering how to do such thing and why those I wanted are not displayed
[21:30] <DrMax> question: when is 12.10 due ?
[21:30] <ChrisWere> tj-: okay I've tried that, no success.
[21:30] <yeehi> On a fresh virtual installation of backtrack 5r3, I attempt an update and receive an error message - my anti-virus terminates the connection as it detects JS/TrojanDownloader.Agent.GJ trojan. The command: gem install librex -v '0.0.68' causes the anti-virus to terminate the connection.  What should I do?
[21:30] <zykotick9> !schedule | DrMax
[21:30] <trism> javierf_: oh I see, let me see if I can find the icon names for you
[21:30] <yeehi> (sorry not directly Ubuntu - nobody in #backtrack is answering...
[21:31] <DrMax> zykotick9 : thx
[21:31] <bekks> !backtrack | yeehi
[21:31] <zykotick9> yeehi: see "/msg ubottu backtrack" for support options
[21:31] <TJ-> ChrisWere: OK... have you totally powered off the monitor (pulled the plug out of the wall-socket) ?
[21:31] <Hundertfuss> wow, nice
[21:32] <TJ-> ChrisWere: This often happens when the monitor gets its internal memory corrupted.
[21:32] <yeehi> hello bekks
[21:32] <Hundertfuss> somebody from ex YU?
[21:32] <ChrisWere> TJ-: okay, should i logout/login after I try that?
[21:32] <tiox> I'll ask once more, I asked about this problem last night -- In Ubuntu 11.10, my USB modem worked, an LG Turbo provided by AT&T. In 12.xx, it does not.
[21:32] <yeehi> thanks zykotick9
[21:33] <yeehi> i have waited a long time in #backtrack and nobody has replied
[21:33] <kulitorum> I added modes "1280x1024" to my xorg.conf, but I still can only select 640x480 in displays. How can I force higher resolution? (there's no resolutions listed under "Monitor" should there be?)
[21:33] <tiox> lsusb brought up three devices; Two from Alcor, the SD card reader and TruInstall storage space, and one being the actual modem itself. usb-modeswitch isn't working.
[21:33] <pepee> kulitorum, in the console use xrandr
[21:33] <tiox> How can I fix this? I found the stock config file in /usr/share/usb-modeswitch/configPack.tar.gz.
[21:33] <zykotick9> kulitorum: what video card?
[21:33] <yeehi> i think that it is strange that updating librex starts a trojan
[21:34] <TJ-> ChrisWere: Yes, so that the X server can get the EDID from the monitor again. If that doesn't work - and as it was working until this morning, I would be considering and inspecting the physical connections of the monitor to the PC for any possible minute changes
[21:34] <kulitorum> xrandr lists 640x480 and 320x240
[21:34] <kulitorum> Quadro 4600
[21:34] <kulitorum> ..or maybe 4700
[21:34] <zykotick9> kulitorum: "lspci | grep -i vga"
[21:35] <kulitorum> It worked fine on another 1920x1200 monitor, but this one is connected with a 15pin d-sub
[21:35] <kulitorum>  NVIDIA Corporation G80 [Quadro FX 4600] (rev a2)
[21:35] <kulitorum> so I guess there's no data communication
[21:35] <TJ-> kulitorum: If you are using the nvidia proprietary driver, you'll need to use the "Nvidia X Server Settings" application
[21:35] <javierf_> trism, thanks a lot! i'm in 12.10
[21:35] <kulitorum> That also only lists 640x480
[21:36] <kulitorum> Should xorg.conf have resolutions under the "monitor" section?
[21:36] <TJ-> kulitorum: Check "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" see if the driver is getting a valid EDID from the monitor?
[21:36] <kulitorum> Probably not
[21:36] <TJ-> kulitorum: In the "Screen" section - in the "Monitor" section you put the Horizontal/Vertical refresh frequencies
[21:36] <trism> javierf_: it seems the ones you need to replace are user-available user-away user-busy user-idle user-invisible and user-offline
[21:36] <kulitorum> it's hard in 640x480 :) - what should I search for?
[21:37] <kulitorum> TJ- Check, that's there. Looks resonable
[21:37] <trism> javierf_: as an aside the ones from Faenza-Dark are pretty nice
[21:37] <Num83rGuy> I have tried all methods that I can find to get my D-Link DWL 520 wireless card working.  All of them make the card disappear. It is automatically detected as an intersil  ISL3874 using the prism 2.5 / prism 3 drivers.  Everything seems to work but, it doesn't detect any signal and has no mac address.
[21:37] <TJ-> kulitorum: The frequencies allow the driver to check that that the monitor can accept any modes that are selected
[21:38] <javierf_> trism, but, where do I have to place icons with those manes?
[21:38] <ChrisWere> tj-:done that, no luck i'm afraid
[21:38] <kulitorum>  (WW) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Unable to read EDID for display device CRT-1
[21:38] <kulitorum> Can I force the resolution?
[21:38] <trism> javierf_: in your icon theme? it doesn't really matter where you put them because they are loaded by name, but if the icon theme is cached (say if you updated a system theme) you would probably need to update the cache
[21:39] <trism> javierf_: but usually you would just put them in your theme in ~/.icons/ThemeName
[21:39] <TJ-> ChrisWere: I'm out of ideas, sorry. Monitors are known to spontaneously corrupt their EDID internally, even in the EEPROM (firmware), but it's usually caused by an electrical 'spike' or lightening strike. Can you test that monitor on another PC?
[21:39] <kulitorum>     HorizSync       28.0 - 33.0
[21:39] <kulitorum>     VertRefresh     43.0 - 72.0
[21:39] <trism> javierf_: that is, as long as the directory is mentioned in index.theme
[21:39] <TJ-> ChrisWere: If it doesn't work on another PC you know its' the monitor - otherwise, you can focus on what's up with the video card!
[21:39] <javierf_> trism, aha, I see. I will see if it worked :)
[21:40] <ChrisWere> tj-:okay. thanks.
[21:40] <TJ-> ChrisWere: One last thing I've actually seen but not believed - someone managed to actually have the VGA connector's DATA pin break inside the housing --- I only found because I unplugged both ends of the VGA lead and pressed my thumb against the pins in the connector and the DATA pin fell out!
[21:41] <CrazyGir> how are you "supposed" to set the domainname on a ubuntu system? in hostname manpage it explicitly says not to put the full fqdn in /etc/hostname, yet all the forums say to do so
[21:42] <TJ-> kulitorum: There are webpages that can generate the correct modes for the Screen section of xorg.conf if you give them the frequency-range of the monitor.
[21:42] <javierf_> trism, please, how to update cache without logging out?
[21:42] <TJ-> kulitorum: But first, I'd suggest you search for that monitor's correct frequency range!
[21:42] <kulitorum> I just want one resolution, 1920x1080
[21:42] <internetN00b> ubuntu one is expensive :(
[21:43] <pepee> kulitorum, ask in #nvidia too
[21:43] <kulitorum> Hmmmm, It's not a monitor per-se - it's a panel that's used as a display in an airport terminal. So it don't have any real specifications :
[21:43] <kulitorum> :)
[21:43] <TJ-> kulitorum: I'd expect to be seeing something like "HorizSync 30.000-81.00"
[21:43] <doug1> u
[21:44] <kulitorum> and vert?
[21:44] <TJ-> kulitorum: With the range you reported, it would only be able to do 800x600 max I'd guess
[21:44] <kulitorum> ...expected, that is :)
[21:44] <doug1> linux gods... wtf is this running NOW and not in 5 min? echo RAN > /tmp/stat | at now + 5 min ?
[21:44] <pepee> kulitorum, tried removing xorg.conf? AFAIK it's not needed these days
[21:44] <kulitorum> trying... How do I restart X?
[21:44] <Riley> hi
[21:44] <TJ-> kulitorum: I'm not sure off top of my head, but as I said, there are web-pages that can generate this stuff for you. Give them frequencies, they give you modes. Give them modes (or max resolutions) and they'll give you frequencies
[21:44] <ChrisWere> TJ-: I've tried it on my windows install and it works fine
[21:44] <kulitorum> No, I did not
[21:44] <zykotick9> kulitorum: "sudo service lightdm restart" if you are using lightdm
[21:45] <kulitorum> brb :)
[21:45] <diverdude> How can i see which ports are in use?
[21:45] <Guest28257> I need some help
[21:45] <deadmund> !ask
[21:46] <doug1> not patience?
[21:46] <Guest28257> how do I install a downloaded driver
[21:46] <TJ-> ChrisWere: That's good news then! OK, last physical idea (and again, I've seen this!). If it's a PC (not a laptop/notebook) power it down, remove the cover, and physically re-seat the graphics card into its slot (undoing the retaining screw if necessary). I've known minute vibration to lift the front edge of a video card sufficiently to make some data lines intermittent.
[21:46] <javierf_> trism, unfortunatelly, it didn't work. Now I don't see the old not wanted icon, but forbidden icons, what I believe that means that there is some kind of conflict there
[21:46] <trism> javierf_: where did you put the icons?
[21:47] <zykotick9> trism: technically, supporting javierf_'s 12.10 install is OT here... just sayin' ;)
[21:47] <trism> zykotick9: indeed good point
[21:48] <trism> javierf_: can you hop over to #ubuntu+1? we can continue there
[21:48] <internetN00b> is it possible to set ubuntu to open all windows in the center of my screen?
[21:48] <javierf_> trism, tzykotick9, sorry, my fault there
[21:48] <eutheria> is it possible to have gtk style tabs in thunderbird again, these swoopy style ones look out of place
[21:48] <ChrisWere> TJ-: I'll try that, jeez these errors do not do my depression any good.
[21:52] <kulitorum> TJ- It works now. Changing  HorizSync to 30.000-81.00 and everything works as expected. Thanks :)
[21:52] <TJ-> Nice one kulitorum !
[21:52] <kulitorum> Later guys, thanks again
[21:53] <lupo> list
[21:55] <kulitorum> hehe, I'm back with another one... when I reboot, I don't have permissions to write to /dev/ttyUSB0 How do I permanently get permission to do so?
[21:55] <kulitorum> 3D printer connected there
[21:56] <Num83rGuy> I have tried all methods that I can find to get my D-Link DWL 520 wireless card working.  All of them make the card disappear. It is automatically detected as an intersil  ISL3874 using the prism 2.5 / prism 3 drivers.  Everything seems to work but, it doesn't detect any signal and has no mac address.
[21:56] <blackshirt> kulitorum, what do you want ?
[21:56] <zykotick9> kulitorum: you'll need to adjust udev rules.  don't ask me how, i have no idea.  good luck.
[21:57] <kulitorum> to be able to write to /dev/ttyusb0 without having to sudo chmod 777 /dev/ttyUSB0 after reboot
[21:58] <blackshirt> kulitorum, i mean, what are you trying to configure? Do you have some little programming ?
[21:58] <TJ-> kulitorum: What group owns that device node ("ls -l /dev/ttyUSB0") ?
[21:59] <TJ-> kulitorum: Usually, you'd add the user that needs to access the USB serial port to the group that owns the device node
[21:59] <TJ-> kulitorum: Often it's the "dialup" group
[21:59] <kulitorum> crwxrwxrwx 1 root dialout
[21:59] <TJ-> kulitorum: sorry, "dialout" group
[22:00] <kulitorum> yeap
[22:00] <kulitorum> How do I add me to that group?
[22:00] <TJ-> haha, yeah. Check if your user is part of that group: "groups"
[22:00] <kulitorum> nope
[22:00] <kulitorum> blackshirt: my 3d printer
[22:00] <TJ-> kulitorum: "sudo adduser $USER dailout" ... you'll need to log-out and log-in for the new group to take effect though
[22:01] <TJ-> kulitorum: oops, typo! "sudo adduser $USER dialout" !!
[22:01] <kulitorum> yeah, that's what I typed :)
[22:01]  * TJ- blushes
[22:01] <kulitorum> Thanks )
[22:01] <kulitorum> again
[22:02] <kulitorum> I'm now a member, so I guess on next reboot, it'll work
[22:02] <kulitorum> Good stuff, thanks :)
[22:02] <doug1> linux gods... wtf is this running NOW and not in 5 min? echo RAN > /tmp/stat | at now + 5 min ?
[22:05] <ChrisWere> tj-: No luck with phisically re-seating the card
[22:06] <Num83rGuy> I have tried all methods that I can find to get my D-Link DWL 520 wireless card working.  All of them make the card disappear. It is automatically detected as an intersil  ISL3874 using the prism 2.5 / prism 3 drivers.  Everything seems to work but, it doesn't detect any signal and has no mac address.
[22:06] <TJ-> ChrisWere: The Windows test you did - was it on a different PC?
[22:06] <ChrisWere> no same pc
[22:07] <TJ-> ChrisWere: So, same VGA cable and graphics card
[22:07] <ChrisWere> TJ-: evrything's the same, and it works in windows
[22:07] <TJ-> ChrisWere: That tells us its a software issue for sure then! I didn't expect that, with it not reading the EDID. I'm wondering about some subtle corruption to the operating system, possibly the nvidia driver
[22:08] <ChrisWere> TJ-: It's weird that people here slag windows off so much, but for me it's had a lot fewer bugs than any linux distro
[22:09] <monopole>  /ignore -channels #mwsf * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[22:09] <TJ-> ChrisWere: Have you tried reinstalling the nvidia driver? It might be something has got corrupted. "sudo apt-get --reinstall install nvidia-current-updates" ( or if you're not using -updates, then "sudo apt-get --reinstall install nvidia-current")
[22:09] <ChrisWere> TJ:- I've tried different versions of the Nvidia driver as well as reinstalling
[22:10] <ChrisWere> TJ-: I down graded and when tht didn't work I upgraded again
[22:10] <TJ-> ChrisWere: It very much depends on the hardware, and how much information the manufacturer provides about their hardware. Nvidia are one of several (like Atheros and Realtek) that don't, and that means Linux can't work as well as it should on that hardware.
[22:10] <Num83rGuy> ChrisWere: I have had the opposite experience, Linux being more stable than Windows. i use both and I will say that both have strong and weak points.
[22:11] <Dr_willis__> definatly hae linux more stable then windows.. had to reinstall windows a few mo back to fix a '.net' problem... ;(  scary
[22:11] <TJ-> ChrisWere: When you reinstalled the nvidia driver, did you also at that time try using the open-source nouveau driver whilst the nvidia driver was uninstalled?
[22:11] <ChrisWere> TJ-: I didn't actually, is the open-source nvidia driver any good?
[22:12] <Kylo> honestly, my biggest gripe is Netflix. I use linux for everything sans netflix, which i just VM into via and old XP
[22:12] <TJ-> ChrisWere: I'm thinking that a comparison of what the nouveau driver sees against what the nvidia driver is now seeing, may be useful to us
[22:12] <Dr_willis__> ChrisWere,  depends on your chipset. Works decently well for most ussage. 3d may not be as good.
[22:12] <Dr_willis__> Kylo,  :) i got a nice spare hdmi monitor for netflix with my boxee box. ;) or a roku
[22:13] <TJ-> ChrisWere: It has limited support for 3D acceleration depending on chipset - but the point is not to use it permanently, but use it to test this issue and see if it can read the EDID from the monitor when the nvidia driver can't
[22:13] <Kylo> i saw great results with my nvidia card, except it hated the nouveau driver, but disabling it and updating drivers fixed that
[22:13] <Kylo> yeah. i'm probably going to go roku to keep it in the family
[22:13] <ChrisWere> TJ-: Yeah they arn't raving about the nouveau drivers for nvidias
[22:13] <TJ-> ChrisWere: If nouveau were to read the EDID, then that'd would tell us that the nvidia driver is at fault here
[22:14] <TJ-> ChrisWere: That's down to Nvidia not publishing the information required, nor helping with the driver! Can't blame the Linux / Xorg developers for that
[22:15] <Kylo> I was under the impression that since you have to make drivers for Macs, which is somewhat a linux machine, why wouldn't you make the same drivers available for linux
[22:15] <gordonjcp> Kylo: o_O
[22:15] <bekks> Mac is not Linux at all.
[22:16] <gordonjcp> what have Macs got to do with Linux?
[22:16] <Kylo> well, make runs on bsd
[22:16] <gordonjcp> apart from, you can run Linux on some Macs
[22:16] <bekks> gordonjcp: The beautiful case :)
[22:16] <Kylo> mac*
[22:16] <gordonjcp> bekks: :-)
[22:16] <gordonjcp> Kylo: BSD isn't Linux
[22:16] <bekks> Kylo: And BSD is no Linux either.
[22:16] <gordonjcp> Kylo: not even remotely similar
[22:16] <Kylo> BSD is an offshoot of unix
[22:16] <Kylo> linux is based upon unix
[22:16] <bekks> Kylo: Erm, no :)
[22:16] <TJ-> Kylo: Wrong.
[22:16] <gordonjcp> Kylo: not really, no
[22:16] <Kylo> please explain
[22:16] <gordonjcp> Kylo: Linux and BSD share a common ancestor in Unix, kind of
[22:17] <TJ-> Kylo: Linux implements POSIX specifications, and some aspects of the SUS
[22:17] <gordonjcp> Kylo: but if anything Linux is based on Minix, not Unix
[22:17] <gordonjcp> and after a long and protracted legal case, it turns out it's not even based on Minix
[22:17] <TJ-> gordonjcp: Don't let Linux hear you say that :p
[22:17] <gordonjcp> it just happens to look the same
[22:17] <TJ-> oops, Linus
[22:17] <gordonjcp> TJ-: meh
[22:17] <ChrisWere> TJ-: Should I trying a reinstall?
[22:18] <gordonjcp> TJ-: Andy's cool with it
[22:18] <Kylo> I thought that Linus watched Unix and rewrote an OS based upon the model of Unix
[22:18] <axisys> did I just get a old battery? I ordered a new battery and IT guy a week later handed me over a battery all packaged.. for my hp 6730b
[22:18] <axisys> Battery 0: design capacity 5600 mAh, last full capacity 5269 mAh = 94%
[22:18] <TJ-> ChrisWere: That's a bit drastic! Uninstall the nvidia driver, reboot so the nouveau driver will be able to start, and then come back and let us see the "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" - lets find out if the EDID can be read and what it shows
[22:19] <axisys> why would a new battery say last full capacity 5269 mAh = 94%
[22:19] <axisys> it should be 100% if good and used .. at least
[22:19] <blackshirt> kylo,not just watched,
[22:19] <axisys> or do I need to update my acpi ?
[22:19] <ChrisWere> TJ-: that's a hassle in itself. Ubuntu has trouble booting without nvidia drivers
[22:20] <ChrisWere> fine I'll brb
[22:20] <TJ-> ChrisWere: hang on"!!
[22:20] <axisys> running ubuntu precise 64 bit
[22:20] <ChrisWere> TJ-: What?
[22:20] <TJ-> ChrisWere: If you have black screens at boot, then add "nomodeset" to the kernel's command-line at boot. Do you know how to do that at the GRUB boot meny?
[22:20] <ChrisWere> yes
[22:20] <ChrisWere> th-:but it deosn't always work
[22:21] <axisys> here is another new batter I bought for my other laptop
[22:21] <axisys> battery*
[22:21] <axisys> Battery 0: design capacity 4125 mAh, last full capacity 4125 mAh = 100%
[22:21] <TJ-> OK, use "nomodeset text" which will start in text-only mode ... then log-in at the text console. Then, start the GUI using "sudo service lightdm start"
[22:21] <rhollan> why might a kickstart file %post section not execute?
[22:22] <TJ-> axisys: Because battery chemistry can vary quite alot
[22:22] <ChrisWere> TJ-:This bug as been in ubuntu for more than a few releases now. windows never gave me this jip
[22:22] <Kylo> i had a problem booting up with my old nvidia too. just added nomodeset and booted. installed drivers and removed all traces of the nouveau drivers
[22:22] <TJ-> ChrisWere: It's down to the hardware - if the developers aren't provided with the chipset data they can't do anything unless they have one of those devices and want to spend several weeks reverse-engineering what it does
[22:24] <ChrisWere> tj-: yea but it's ubuntu people who put that xsplash int hat makes it hang. Considering ubuntu is supposed to have this linux for all mentality, I chalk that down to 50/50 blame
[22:24] <Dr_willis__> theres another grub option to disable the nouveau driver spefifically also.
[22:24] <Kylo> Dr_willis__: happen to know it?
[22:24] <Dr_willis__> Kylo,  nope. I dont even need touse Nomodeset any more. ;)
[22:24] <Kylo> personally, i run radeons now but it would be handy info
[22:24] <lukecarrier> Anyone else here use Amazon MP3 and want to take sharp objects to the braindead morons there responsible for Cloud Player?
[22:25] <zykotick9> Dr_willis__: just installing nvidia-propritary is "suppose" to blacklist nouveau automagically
[22:25] <rhlee> when compiling a new kernel using "debian/rules" for ubuntu, how do I suffix a name say "testpatch" or something?
[22:25] <Dr_willis__> zykotick9,  yep. seen a few times where that disabel noveau option was needed for an install.
[22:25] <Roey> hi
[22:27] <n-iCe> when is the new release date
[22:27] <zykotick9> !schedule | n-iCe
[22:27] <n-iCe> October 18th
[22:28] <n-iCe> Are you guys excited?
[22:28] <compdoc> 12.10?
[22:28] <Dr_willis__> Kylo,   it may be -->   add nouveau.modeset=0 after quiet splash
[22:28] <lukecarrier> n-iCe, I have no idea what I'd do with my life if another release weren't here to screw up my graphics drivers and drive me insane with annoying apport-gtk failspam! :D
[22:29] <Dr_willis__> n-iCe,  i tend to update the day befor release... then avoid the total chaos of this channel for the 2 weeks following release. ;)
[22:29] <calrogman> n-iCe: it's Persons Day in Canada! who wouldn't be excited?!
[22:29] <lukecarrier> n-iCe, I don't know, my work, maybe
[22:29] <thiago_net> Alguem do brasil aí?
[22:29] <Kylo> most of my boxes are still in Lucid
[22:30] <n-iCe> hehe
[22:30] <lukecarrier> n-iCe, and that's even beginning with the plethora of usability failures they'll have added to their beautiful desktop environment
[22:30] <Kylo> Dr_willis__: I'll try it next boot and see what it says
[22:30] <lukecarrier> n-iCe, like free adverts from Amazon!!! The creepy online retailer who wants to eat my future babies!
[22:31] <Kylo> I love amazon! HDMI cables for $2.00... Best buy: $65
[22:31] <lukecarrier> Kylo, I'd love them had I not spent 3 weeks now attempting to get an issue with their MP3 service and Cloud Player resolved
[22:31] <axisys> TJ-: why would last capacity be lower than 100% on a new battery just purchased
[22:32] <Kylo> luke, i had a problem with streaming once and theygave me 20 bucks free to spend on content... it was a hassle but it kind of paid off
[22:32] <smw_> Kylo, I want them to stop charging sales tax like they used to
[22:32] <axisys> it should be either 100% to its design capacity or 0% since never used
[22:32] <Kylo> axisys, what's the nmh on them?
[22:32] <ChrisWere> tj-:okay I'be uninstalled and booted up
[22:32] <lukecarrier> Kylo, pity they didn't offer me anything for passing my around their various incompetent engineers as if I was a frigging book
[22:32] <Kylo> luke... complain
[22:32] <rhollan> I HATE kickstart: my %post script just doesn't get run at all
[22:33] <Num83rGuy> I have tried all methods that I can find to get my D-Link DWL 520 wireless card working.  All of them make the card disappear. It is automatically detected as an intersil  ISL3874 using the prism 2.5 / prism 3 drivers.  Everything seems to work but, it doesn't detect any signal and has no mac address.
[22:33] <lukecarrier> Kylo, lmfao, like a company like that gives a dime what I think of them
[22:33] <lukecarrier> I sure as hell won't be replacing my Kindle when it gives out
[22:34] <l33tdesigner> e.org
[22:34] <Kylo> luke, i went to get an oil change and the company said i needed "This" so i said, ok... a week later my car broke down. i take it back and they say, you never needed "this"... i went on twitter.. i had my money back in my hands and all the repairs done for free in 2 day
[22:34] <axisys> Kylo: what's nmh?
[22:34] <axisys> i only have mAh
[22:34] <axisys> and percentage
[22:34] <Kylo> that's what i mean
[22:34] <axisys> Battery 0: design capacity 5600 mAh, last full capacity 5269 mAh = 94%
[22:34] <Kylo> mAh
[22:35] <axisys> but on my other (smaller) laptop with new battery
[22:35] <axisys> Battery 0: design capacity 4125 mAh, last full capacity 4125 mAh = 100%
[22:35] <Kylo> axisys sounds like a bad charge
[22:35] <lukecarrier> Kylo, somehow I remain unconvinced
[22:35] <lukecarrier> Thanks, though
[22:35] <ChrisWere> tj-: what do i need to send you?
[22:35] <Kylo> luke. post on twitter. they have social media scavangers that will contact you and try to get you to stop posting negative things
[22:36] <axisys> Kylo: IT just gave me the big battery saying it is new.. doubt it
[22:36] <Kylo> axisys... brand new batteries have to be fully charged first prior to use
[22:36] <axisys> Kylo: are you might be suggesting my laptop charger is bad
[22:36] <Kylo> should say that in the package
[22:36] <TJ-> ChrisWere: sorry, was a way. "/var/log/xorg.0.log"
[22:37] <Num83rGuy> axisys: Most batteries are not charged to full capacity for shipping because the "top" of the charge will dissipate rather quickly anyway and for most battery tech holding a 100% charge for extended periods can be harmful to the life of the battery.
[22:37] <ChrisWere> tj-: that file is blank
[22:37] <axisys> Kylo: it is 94% charged.. so either someone being nice and charged it all the before packaging it.. or it is a used battery and cant reach to its capacity cause it is already aged
[22:37] <TJ-> ChrisWere: Oh me and my typos!!
[22:38] <TJ-> ChrisWere: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[22:38] <Kylo> axisys: read what num83rguy said
[22:39] <axisys> Num83rGuy, Kylo : ok i will let it charge few hours.. but silly to charge it 94% as well before shipping to customer..
[22:39] <ChrisWere> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1275838/
[22:39] <ChrisWere> tj-: okay http://paste.ubuntu.com/1275838/
[22:39] <axisys> actually i take it back.. it was not charged much .. only 6%.. but last full capacity still troubling
[22:40] <axisys> Battery 0: Charging, 6%, 01:49:32 until charged
[22:40] <axisys> Battery 0: design capacity 5600 mAh, last full capacity 5269 mAh = 94%
[22:40] <axisys> so it is a used battery and it is already aged
[22:40] <bekks> axisys: Nope.
[22:40] <bekks> axisys: It was just not fully charged for shipping. Despite you like that or not.
[22:40] <jimmers> Hey guys, I attempted to run an update becuase I realized I hadn't in a while.  I have 312 updates pending, and then I get an error that tells me to use the terminal to do apt-get install -f .... when running that I get the following error.  any thoughts on how to proceed? admin@Earth:~$ sudo apt-get install -f [sudo] password for admin:  Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done 
[22:41] <jimmers> oops, paste didn't work properly
[22:41] <jimmers> http://fpaste.org/wBiy/
[22:41] <axisys> bekks: which number are you referring? 6% or 94% ?
[22:41] <jimmers> sorry about that...
[22:41] <Num83rGuy> axisys: They are meant to be on a cycle of charge / discharge.  Look up battery care for the type of battery you have be it NmH or Li-Po or other. The kind should be printed on the battery casing. For example if you have a Li-ion search Li-ion battery care and charging.
[22:42] <bekks> axisys: I was referring to your original problem with a not fully charged battery.
[22:42] <axisys> bekks: "last full capacity 5269 mAh = 94%" this means I werent succefully charged to 100% of design capacity.. if I am reading it correctly
[22:43] <arooni-mobile> how do i set the media keys on my t420 ubuntu 12.04 laptop set to clementines shortcuts??
[22:43] <questionnaire> hi
[22:43] <axisys> Num83rGuy: ok
[22:43] <TJ-> ChrisWere: It'll take me a few minutes to absorb the log, but I will be back to you
[22:43] <blackshirt> hi
[22:43] <bekks> axisys: Because it was not fully charged to 100% for shipping. As you've been already told. :)
[22:43] <jimmers> Hey guys, I attempted to run an update becuase I realized I hadn't in a while.  I have 312 updates pending, and then I get an error that tells me to use the terminal to do apt-get install -f .... when running that I get the following error.  any thoughts on how to proceed? http://fpaste.org/wBiy/
[22:43] <axisys> bekks: no
[22:44] <axisys> bekks: Battery 0: Charging, 6%, 01:49:32 until charged
[22:44] <axisys> it is only charged 6% before shipping
[22:44] <axisys> 94% does not talk about how much charged.. it is talking about something else
[22:45] <axisys> one is how much charged before shipped and the other one how much it can be charged
[22:45] <bekks> axisys: And it tells you that it was just charged to 94% of what it could have been charged.
[22:45] <slackguru> Is it possible for a 32 bit kernel to execute 64 bit binaries under any circumstance?
[22:46] <bekks> axisys: Thats exactly what you've been told.
[22:46] <bekks> slackguru: No.
[22:46] <axisys> bekks: we will see.. i am letting it charged.. lets hope that is the case.. otherwise i have a old battery
[22:46] <Num83rGuy> axisys: Some types of batterys need a mostly charged state for long storage, some need a barely charged state.  If the battery was mostly charged for storage/shipping and then sat for a while that charge will slowly dissipate.
[22:46] <jagginess> slackguru, not really.. but if you have a 64-bit physical processor.-- and you're running a 64-bit VM Os on a 32-bit operating system, then the 64-bit will run
[22:46] <slackguru> Okay bekks another question...
[22:47] <pepee> jimmers, try sudo apt-get install --reinstall  grub-common grub-pc grub-pc-bin grub2-common
[22:47] <slackguru> I have code and it appears the flags in the code are dependent on being compiled with a 64 bit cross compiler...
[22:48] <Num83rGuy> axisys: The temperature the battery was stored in will also affect how fast that charge dissipation will take as well.
[22:48] <slackguru> can that code be parsed properly to be compiled by a 32 bit cross compiler of the same version?
[22:48] <bekks> slackguru: Depends on the code and the compiler.
[22:48] <rlw980> I have a problem, how to a put a Android OS back onto my smartphone?
[22:48] <jagginess> slackguru, what bekks said
[22:48] <ChrisWere> tj-:have you managed to have a look at it yet?
[22:49] <slackguru> bekks, can you give me an example?
[22:49] <slackguru> lol thanks jagginess
[22:49] <slackguru> Here
[22:49] <Num83rGuy> axisys: If the warehouse got hot for a few days or a week it could have sapped the charge much faster so that it was mostly discharged by the time you got it.
[22:49] <slackguru> I'll spit it out...
[22:49] <TJ-> ChrisWere: I'm comparing this log to the old one, and researching some issues to understand it better
[22:49] <pepee> rlw980, ask in #android
[22:50] <rlw980> pepee: I have, that's all i'm getting is: Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[22:51] <bekks> rlw980: Then you have to register your nick before being able to join,
[22:51] <jagginess> rlw980, google freenode irc, or ask #freenode on how to register :/
[22:51] <pepee> rlw980, register your nick. also try ##android
[22:51] <pepee> /msg nickserv help register
[22:51] <rlw980> bekks: How do I register
[22:51] <rlw980> jagginess: How/
[22:51] <jimmers> Hey guys, I attempted to run an update becuase I realized I hadn't in a while.  I have 312 updates pending, and then I get an error that tells me to use the terminal to do apt-get install -f .... when running that I get the following error.  any thoughts on how to proceed? http://fpaste.org/wBiy/
[22:51] <jagginess> rlw980, join #freenode.
[22:51] <jagginess> rlw980, join #freenode.
[22:52] <jagginess> rlw980, join #freenode.
[22:52] <FloodBot1> jagginess: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:52] <slackguru> Ubuntu 12.04.1 on an older PC single core 3 Ghz CPU true i686.... The gcc binaries included in the Android git hub with it's source code are ELF Binaries of the 64 bit variety and can not be executed on my machine but when I remove them and link into the SAME version gcc, libtool, libexec and the likes but ELF 32 bit I get errors galore because certain flags in the code are intended ONLY for the 64 bit...
[22:52] <zykotick9> jagginess: fyi there is a !register factoid
[22:52] <bekks> rlw980: < pepee> /msg nickserv help register
[22:52] <rlw980> bekks: Thanks =D!
[22:52] <slackguru> I feel the overwhelming need to prove Google wrong that jellybean CAN be compiled on a 32 bit machine, can someone help?
[22:53] <bekks> slackguru: Then your question is answered and you have a good example for non portable code :)
[22:53] <Num83rGuy> axisys: It's not necessarily a bad sign that it was nearly dead. If it doesn't hold a charge or depletes (goes dead) too quickly then you may have a bad battery. Look at the %, if it drops more than 1 or 2% in the next week  I would talk to the seller about a possible replacement.
[22:53] <rlw980> REGISTER <rlw980123@@> <ryan.l.williams95@gmail.com>
[22:53] <bekks> OUCH
[22:53] <slackguru> Why can't the code be parsed and given equivalent instructions by the 32 bit compiler?
[22:53] <TJ-> ChrisWere: Can you pastebin "/var/log/kern.log" please? The new log shows that nouveau can't drive the GP116 aka NVCF aka GTX 550Ti, so the default system VESA VGA driver has loaded. VESA can't read the EDID either, so something is pretty bad on the hardware side somehow.
[22:53] <bekks> slackguru: Ask the author of the code.
[22:54] <slackguru> How can ARM, which is 32 bit and a little os which is 32 bit REQUIRE a 64 bit compiler?
[22:54] <bekks> slackguru: Ask the author of the code...
[22:54] <slackguru> right on bekks
[22:54] <slackguru> thanks anyway
[22:54] <jimmers> anyone able to help me sort out errors with an update?
[22:54] <slackguru> anyone else feels like taking this on, just PM me.
[22:55] <ElixirVitae> I installed a program to change launcher options of the programs, like adding an option to firefox to open with a profile select screen. But, for the life of mine I can't remember the program to reinstall, anyone have any idea what it might be?
[22:55] <jagginess> slackguru, there are cross-compilers. You don't need to be on a 32-bit system to "compile" code for non 32-bit architectures.. but you'll run the compiled code on those non-32bit architectures
[22:55] <jagginess> slackguru, or you don't need to be on 64-bit to compile 64-bit.
[22:55] <kbrosnan> ElixirVitae: alcarte
[22:56] <kbrosnan> assuming it still works
[22:56] <slackguru> jagginess, I know, I cross compile all the time.
[22:56] <harryrf> I'm trying to do cd /home/downloads/ but for some reason it's not working, any ideas?
[22:56] <harryrf> using 12.04.1
[22:56] <jagginess> harryrf, try cd /home/<USERNAME>
[22:56] <jagginess> lol
[22:56] <slackguru> I was told version 4.0 of Android couldn't be done on a 32 bit system but I made it happen
[22:57] <ElixirVitae> Oh, thanks kbrosnan, that was it
[22:57] <ChrisWere> tj-: hold on a sec my browser keeps hangnig
[22:57] <jagginess> slackguru, we have no idea (please see #android)
[22:57] <Num83rGuy> harryrf: Try cd ~/downloads
[22:57] <harryrf> ah, been too long since I've used linux. Thanks
[22:57] <slackguru> they're the ones who won't support 32 bit systems
[22:57] <ElixirVitae> It's name is listed as main menu in software center, it might be the reason for not being able to remember...
[22:57] <jimmers> Hey guys, I attempted to run an update with 312 updates pending, and I get an error that tells me to use the terminal to do apt-get install -f .... when running that I get the following error.  any thoughts on how to proceed? http://fpaste.org/wBiy/
[22:58] <jagginess> harryrf, linux is case-sensitive, you can also do -> cd ~/D<tab><tab> or cd ~/d<tab><tab> to do autocompleteion
[22:58] <slackguru> I'll find my solution elsewhere, I've never found the Ubuntu community to be very helpful when it comes to "making things possible" on Ubuntu
[22:59] <bekks> slackguru: Things are possible, but you have problem with some distinct code not even shipped with Ubuntu.
[22:59] <harryrf> thanks guys
[22:59] <slackguru> Like I said jagg, thanks for trying, and I understand you don't know. Anyone who does know, please get with me.... I am simply overlooking something and I know it... some help would be much appreciated.
[22:59] <elixey> is there a special setting for writing iso files to dvds?
[22:59] <slackguru> My problem is with code that does ship with ubuntu
[22:59] <jimmers> If anyone has a second to help me get this computer updated, I would appreciate it... trying to get home for the night and can't sort out these errors...
[23:00] <TJ-> slackguru: It's so that the compiler can take advantage of more than 3GB of RAM in its process address space.
[23:00] <bekks> slackguru: The jellybean code is not shipped with Ubuntu.
[23:00] <elixey> guys!
[23:00] <slackguru> my gcc doesn't accept the same flags as the same version of gcc except on different architectures...
[23:00] <hash__> Can i install lubuntu thru a terminal off of a cd, and if so does anyone know where i can find a list of steps
[23:00] <jagginess> jimmers, try it with aptitude :/ (aptitude update, aptitude upgrade)
[23:01] <slackguru> I haven't asked one question about jelly bean, I simply informed you of what I am programming....
[23:01] <ChrisWere> tj-: I don't know why it's taking so long to work and makes my browser hang
[23:01] <beandog> Is there a way to display *which* services are supposed to startup at boot
[23:01] <jimmers> jagginess: I get the same errors when I try to install aptitude
[23:01] <slackguru> Every question I have asked has been about the cross compiler, which again, doesn't ship with ubuntu but is in its repositories...
[23:01] <slackguru> no big deal... really
[23:02] <TJ-> ChrisWere: Big file! Cancel it... generate just the last 2000 lines and send them like this: "tail -n 2000 /var/log/kern.log > /tmp/kern.log" and upload "/tmp/kern.log"
[23:02] <slackguru> I will find the answer, I am just tired of having to look 94 billion days for some obscure code that isn't used very often, I mean come on, how often do you need a slow machine to actually do something fast?
[23:02] <ChrisWere> tj-: oh right because it exceeds 500kb.
[23:02] <slackguru> Seriously, it's all good...
[23:03] <TJ-> ChrisWere: Ouch... it ought to have been rotated by now! Maybe it contains lots of error reports that may give us a clue :)
[23:04] <ChrisWere> tj-: Well lots of errors would be in the traditional style of linux. It finished now http://paste.ubuntu.com/1275866/
[23:04] <pepee> jimmers, did you read what I posted?
[23:04] <jimmers> pepee didn't see it... scrolling up now
[23:04] <pepee> jimmers, try sudo apt-get install --reinstall  grub-common grub-pc grub-pc-bin grub2-common
[23:05] <TJ-> ChrisWere: Well good news - must have just been a slow upload ... the file doesn't contain lots of errors, just the expected informational messages. I'll look through it
[23:05] <jimmers> pepee: same output
[23:06] <jagginess> jimmers, try to ->dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/lib/apt/archives/<that grub-common package .deb>
[23:06] <TJ-> ChrisWere: Just an aside, but you may want to check if there's a newer BIOS for that motherboard. "[Firmware Bug]: powernow-k8: Try again with latest BIOS."
[23:06] <ChrisWere> TJ-: My motherboard manual says not to upgrade bios unless it causes problems
[23:07] <jimmers> jagginess: that looks scary..... pepee, did you see what he put, and do you second it? :-p  forcing something with grub scares me a little
[23:07] <TJ-> ChrisWere: It's always worth keeping an eye on the updates they provide - reading the changelog/fixes they incorporate.
[23:07] <jagginess> jimmers, it'll only overwrite it's own config
[23:08] <jimmers> jagginess: very similar output
[23:08] <ChrisWere> tj-: why, if you don't mind me asking
[23:08] <jimmers> jagginess: the error it keeps giving me seems to be related to the filename, and I'm wondering where all these special characters are coming from in the output
[23:09] <jagginess> jimmers, "invoke-rc.d: initscript grub-common, action "stop" failed." says that ?
[23:09] <jimmers> jagginess: yes
[23:09] <TJ-> ChrisWere: OK, this last boot there's nothing interesting in the log *but* for the last boot there is. "[drm] nouveau 0000:05:00.0: DDC responded, but no EDID for VGA-1" ... "Raw EDID ..." followed by the EDID data-block which is all zeros, followed by "nouveau 0000:05:00.0: VGA-1: EDID block 0 invalid." and "[drm] nouveau 0000:05:00.0: DDC responded, but no EDID for VGA-1"
[23:09] <jimmers> jagginess: small difference... it says action "start" fialed, not stop
[23:09] <jimmers> jagginess: nevermind, it says both in different places
[23:09] <jagginess> jimmers, now do, apt-get -f install<enter>
[23:10] <ChrisWere> tj-: what does that mean exactly?
[23:10] <TJ-> ChrisWere: So, that indicates that both the nvidia driver and the nouveau driver can't get a valid EDID from the hardware. So, my gut instinct tells me that there's something either physical/hardware or firmware/BIOS causing this, but without having hands-on I can't do much more to figure it out
[23:10] <jimmers> jagginess: all the same
[23:11] <jagginess> jimmers, my best bet is to dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/lib/apt/archives/<>.deb for grub-pc grub-pc-bin grub2-common, ..
[23:11] <TJ-> ChrisWere: EDID is the Extended Display Information Data and reports all the frequencies and  modes the monitor can support. Without it, the graphics driver can't know which frequencies and modes are safe to use, so it limits itself to a universally support base set
[23:11] <ChrisWere> TJ-: F*** could it be a new motherboard I got about a week ago?
[23:11] <ChrisWere> tj-: hold on, why does it work in windows if it's a hardware problem?
[23:11] <jagginess> jimmers, (then try apt-get -f install)
[23:11] <TJ-> ChrisWere: I don't know. That's why I said possibly firmware/BIOS.
[23:12] <TJ-> ChrisWere: New motherboard? Have you had Ubuntu booted with the new motherboard *and* the VGA monitor in correct resolution?
[23:12] <jagginess> ChrisWere, if you're using a kvm switch that can interfere
[23:12] <ChrisWere> TJ-: I'm still not 100% sure why it works in windows rather than linux. It's late here and I have a cold, so I'm a bit slow
[23:13] <TJ-> ChrisWere: Same here, it's a weird one, but my gut tells me from experience that these kind of EDID missing issues are some kind of hardware-related issue.
[23:14] <TJ-> ChrisWere: The way the EDID is obtained is to read it over the VGA DDC pin, which is presented in software via an i2c interface on the GPU
[23:14] <jimmers> jagginess: all the same
[23:14] <ChrisWere> TJ-: can you see why i understand linux to be less stable than windows now?
[23:14] <TJ-> ChrisWere: No
[23:15] <daftykins> if you're getting display config issues that doesn't undermine the OS' stability, it undermines the graphics driver's robustness
[23:15] <ChrisWere> TJ-: so my moniter works properly in windows, doesn't in linux, your advice is to check out the hardware, and your telling me you have no idea why I think linux is less stable than windoes?
[23:15] <jagginess> jimmers, does it say "update-rc.d: warning: /etc/init.d/grub-common missing LSB information" ?
[23:16] <jimmers> jagginess: in a few places, yes
[23:16] <jimmers> jagginess: want me to re-paste, in case you see something different that I'm not?
[23:16] <TJ-> ChrisWere: Nothing to do with stability. If Nvidia didn't create a driver for Windows you'd have only 800x600 on Windows too. It's down to Nvdia providing useful drivers.
[23:16] <pepee> jimmers, ask in #grub too
[23:18] <jagginess> pepee, jimmers, #grub has nothing to do with it.. it's the package maintainers
[23:18] <jimmers> well I'll get yelled at then :-p
[23:18] <jagginess> jimmers, upstream authors usually dont do the packaging
[23:19] <jagginess> jimmers, is this a stable release?
[23:19] <jimmers> jagginess: 12.04
[23:20] <jagginess> jimmers, what does apt-cache policy grub-common say?
[23:20] <jimmers> jagginess: pepee someone in #grub said something about file corruption w/in grub and is drumming up something he thinks will help, too
[23:21] <jimmers> jagginess: http://fpaste.org/Qc2E/
[23:21] <ChrisWere> TJ-: so your just basically saying it's nvidia's fault ubuntu is not as stable. But my point is ubuntu's not as stable. I'm not blaming anyone
[23:21] <jagginess> jimmers, yeah.. it looks like a proper repository source for that package.. i hope you can fix it soon
[23:21] <daftykins> ChrisWere: i see where you're coming from, but 'stability' isn't the right word
[23:22] <jagginess> jimmers, sorry i couldn't fix it.. it's somewhere in the grub-common package script
[23:23] <jimmers> jagginess: the dude in #grub cleaned me all up it seems
[23:23] <ChrisWere> daftykins: Well i spend a lot more time trying for fix ubuntu than windows. The reason I'm stuck with Ubuntu is that ubuntu has a lot of features, but every error makes windows look better
[23:25] <user1> Hey guys, quick question about making bootable USB..
[23:25] <docvell> is there a way to de-install the entire KDE desktop (but NOT the games)?  I never use it, I just like using gnome desktop (if I want any of the games/utilities I can always re-install those separately I believe and still run them in gnome if need be)
[23:25] <user1> I have the ISO file on there and everything, but that doesn't mean its quite bootable yet, right?
[23:26] <meditatingfrog> user1: you need to use dd or usb-creator to make the boot disk
[23:26] <jagginess> user1, you can't take away kde-libs that kde-apps/games require.  To also phrase, you don't need the KDE desktop to run kde-apps
[23:26] <user1> Thanks
[23:27] <user1> Oh, that was docvell asking that
[23:27] <meditatingfrog> jagginess: i think you meant that for docvell
[23:27] <jagginess> user1, i don't know which would be bigger, kde-desktop exclusive harddrive space or the kde-libs that kdeapps/games require
[23:27] <jagginess> oh
[23:27] <meditatingfrog> lol no worries
[23:27] <jagginess> docvell, (sorry, everything i said above)
[23:28] <docvell> I'm just trying to clear up some space
[23:28] <jagginess> i'm just coming out of a deep cough..
[23:28]  * jagginess used up a whole tissue box
[23:28] <user1> Speaking of USB flash drives, does anyone have a sucessfull method to partition a PNY 4G Attache drive? I don't want Ubuntu to take up the whole thing, I want to be able to use part of it also..
[23:28] <meditatingfrog> dang, take care of yourself jagginess
[23:28] <user1> Just at least a  gig, meaning 3GB for Ubuntu bootable.. sound good?
[23:28] <ChrisWere> tj-: well thanks for your help, it's gone mid-night here in the UK, so I'm gonna check out the motherboard in the morning. Thanks again
[23:28] <bjrohan> I had my laptop and office computer able to see each other and transfer files via file manager, I have since reinstalled Ubuntu on both machines and can not figure out how to get them to do that again. On both machines I installed openSSH, as they are connected via router
[23:29] <kthxbye> ya
[23:29] <bjrohan> I can ping each one from the other
[23:29] <bekks> bjrohan: Then just use scp and/or setup a NFS share.
[23:29] <bjrohan> bekks what is scp?
[23:29] <user1> Anyone have Ubuntu on flash drive with partition?
[23:30] <bekks> bjrohan: The abreviation of "secure copy" - cp using ssh. :)
[23:30] <meditatingfrog> user1: i think usb-creator used to be able to do that
[23:30] <Rudd-XXX> X
[23:30] <user1> As in one partition is for bootable, and the other is for storage?
[23:30] <meditatingfrog> user1: i always would just create a folder for storage instead of partitioning
[23:30] <jagginess> user1, you're trying to place the ubuntu-installer on usb? (sounds like you want to "install" ubuntu on usb, you can do that too)
[23:31] <user1> yeah. I want to install Ubuntu onto USB
[23:31] <user1> Make it bootable from BIOS
[23:31] <meditatingfrog> ah, good idea
[23:31] <Dr_willis__> user1,  you can do a normal full install to usb flash.. done it allthe time
[23:31] <user1> Yeah I know
[23:31] <geirha> bjrohan: Open the filemanager, under its File menu, choose Connect to server, choose SSH as the connection type, fill in the rest
[23:31] <user1> But I want to use part of the flash drive for regular storage as well
[23:31] <Dr_willis__> user1,  'regular' windows partion youmean>
[23:31] <user1> One partition for Ubuntu Bootable, another for regular storage
[23:32] <jagginess> user1, i dont see why not.. i think if you choose 'something else' with the ubuntu installer then you get into manual partitioning mode  (i personally rather just use gparted live cd)
[23:32] <Dr_willis__> You can partition the usb however you want.. it dosent matter
[23:32] <bjrohan> thanks geirha
[23:32] <Dr_willis__> same as you would a normal hard drive
[23:32] <geirha> bjrohan: Remember to check the box to save a bookmark so you don't have to do it every time
[23:32] <user1> Not with Windows Disk Management
[23:32] <Dr_willis__> user1,  so use gparted or fdisk or whatever...
[23:33] <jagginess> user1, if you dont have a running linux system, maybe you'd like to use gparted live cd.. it's a very common tool :)
[23:33] <jagginess> user1, that live iso system is only meant to do partitioning.. it can also resize any ntfs partitions on your usb
[23:38] <[twisti]> its probably best to just google 'linux live usb stick' and download whatever program they link, because ive tried a few and they let you chose how much space to use
[23:42] <grimeton> http://2915190116
[23:44] <timg> hi
[23:44] <blackshirt> hi timg
[23:44] <blackshirt> hahaha
[23:44] <timg> so.. ubuntu 12.04 livecd will not boot when I have a geforce gt 620 card in
[23:44] <timg> what is the protocol for this?
[23:44] <timg> take the card out ?
[23:45] <compdoc> timg, does windows?
[23:45] <timg> compdoc: yea
[23:45] <timg> also, I had linux mint13 installed
[23:46] <timg> worked after I put the card in
[23:46] <timg> so maybe remove card, install ubuntu then reinsert card and try to install drivers
[23:46] <timg> such a hassle.
[23:48] <zykotick9> timg: did you try nomodeset?  see "/msg ubottu nomodeset" for details.
[23:49] <timg> zykotick9: live cd results in a blinky cursor
[23:49] <timg> I don't think I can alter the boot at that point
[23:49] <timg> can I?
[23:50] <zykotick9> timg: either A) tro nomodeset or B) are you sure your boot order is correct.
[23:50] <timg> well it comes up with the brown ubuntu boot screen and icon
[23:50] <zykotick9> timg: you can, read the nomodeset link/factoid for details
[23:50] <timg> so I think it's getting there
[23:50] <timg> cd just keeps spinning with a blinky cursor
[23:51] <timg> ok
[23:51] <timg> will try thanks
[23:51] <timg> I can't believe there are >1500 people in here and the channel isn't flooded
[23:51] <timg> I remember when it was <1000 and you could barely keep up
[23:53] <weeb1e> so uhh
[23:53] <weeb1e> a hacker got into one of my servers
[23:53] <weeb1e> what security measures should i take?
[23:53] <[twisti]> format it
[23:53] <andrewh192> hey, i currently have ubuntu 12.04 LTS and am going to install Windows 7 on the side....
[23:53] <weeb1e> i think its just a user account called "test"
[23:53] <andrewh192> weas wondering what i need to do to do this...
[23:54] <andrewh192> if anything special
[23:54] <weeb1e> I may have made the account with an easy password long ago
[23:54] <andrewh192> b4 i actually start the install cd...
[23:54] <[twisti]> for all you know he has replaced half your binaries with malicious shit
[23:54] <weeb1e> [twisti]: a test account won't have access to root
[23:54] <bjrohan> I am trying to use ssh on 2 computers linked via router. I can access my laptop from the desktop, however when i try to access the the desktop from the laptop I get an error message, some more verbose than others depending on which file browser I use
[23:54] <blackshirt> i dont think so
[23:54] <weeb1e> but theres an ssh connection from romania connected to it, spawning php processes
[23:54] <[twisti]> so you hope
[23:54] <weeb1e> :|
[23:54] <bjrohan> In nautilus I get Host Key Verification Failed
[23:54] <[twisti]> thank god php is so secure, i guess you have nothing to worry about
[23:55] <weeb1e> err, php is the least of my worries
[23:55] <weeb1e> they are spawning the php processes from an ssh connection
[23:55] <timg> [twisti]: what's that supposed to mean
[23:55] <jagginess> bjrohan, if your laptop is on a separated network and is behind a WAN IP box, then maybe the ISP is blocking the desktop to the laptop
[23:56] <[twisti]> timg: i was making a sarcastic comment towards the ridiculous amount of security issues relating to PHP
[23:57] <bjrohan> I don't follow jagginess. These 2 computers are connect via a LAN router. I have my modem connected to a wireless router, which both of my computers are connected to, one is 192.168.0.2 (desktop) and laptop is 192.168.0.5.
[23:57] <blackshirt> weeb1e, i think maybe better you cut off your connection if you not sure
[23:57] <bjrohan> my desktop can access my laptop, but not vice versa
[23:57] <jagginess> bjrohan, is the laptop connecting wireless?
[23:57] <weeb1e> blackshirt: this box is in a data center, it is a server
[23:58] <weeb1e> not very happy about this, but I think they just found an easy password to a test account
[23:58] <weeb1e> test doesn't have sudo
[23:58] <bekks> weeb1e: disable the login for that account, kill the spawned processes.
[23:59] <bjrohan> jagginess yes it is, to the router, the desktop is connected to the router via cable
[23:59] <jagginess> bjrohan, to make it simpler next time :), so the two "arent" connected to a LAN router (that would imply they're both wired :)