| ScottK | Sput: Differnt system with a fresh install and I still have the problem. I think it's definitely real. | 00:40 |
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| ScottK | afiestas: Why does the bluedevil systray icon stay visible when bluetooth is off now? I have this problem on two machines. I hope this is not on purpose. | 01:55 |
| afiestas | ScottK: deine off | 01:56 |
| afiestas | *define off | 01:56 |
| ScottK | When I right click on the systray icon and tell it to turn bluetooth off. | 02:01 |
| ScottK | BTW, I am in an airplane at 30K feet, so I'm a bit laggy. | 02:01 |
| ScottK | afiestas: ^^^ | 02:01 |
| afiestas | ScottK: that's never been like that | 02:02 |
| afiestas | I mean, it will still be there because you want to be able to quickly enable it when needed | 02:02 |
| afiestas | so if you disable it "software wise" then it stays | 02:02 |
| ScottK | Shouldn't it autohide? | 02:02 |
| afiestas | ScottK: nope, it should autohide when hardware switch is set to off | 02:03 |
| ScottK | Weird. | 02:03 |
| ScottK | I guess something turned it on on my computer then because this suddenly appeared. | 02:03 |
| ScottK | (a day or so ago) | 02:03 |
| ScottK | Roughly coincident with the last bluedevil upload. | 02:04 |
| afiestas | nothing has been changed there | 02:04 |
| afiestas | for ages actually, thing is | 02:04 |
| ScottK | K | 02:04 |
| afiestas | "If you disable it via the interface, it remains so it can be enabled via interface" | 02:04 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 02:04 |
| afiestas | "If you disable it via hardware, then you will need hardware to enable it interface is not needed" | 02:04 |
| ScottK | Right, but it can be hidden, but available. | 02:05 |
| ScottK | That's two clicks instead of one, but hey, you turned it off. Shouldn't the systray be decluttered? | 02:05 |
| afiestas | it may, I'm no usability expert | 02:06 |
| afiestas | ther eis no plasma policy about this | 02:06 |
| afiestas | Battery behaves like that because sebas wanted it that way | 02:07 |
| afiestas | that's sebas decisions, not plasma | 02:07 |
| ScottK | I think it's smart. | 02:08 |
| ScottK | When agateau did messaging menu for Canonical he took the same approach. If no apps are running that need it, it hides. | 02:08 |
| ScottK | I think the less clutter in the systray the better. | 02:08 |
| afiestas | apps != system stuff | 02:08 |
| ScottK | True | 02:08 |
| afiestas | I haven't get used to the autohiding thing, many kde developres neither | 02:09 |
| ScottK | The printer widgets that both Riddell and dantti did also autohide when no printing is going on. | 02:09 |
| afiestas | yet we aren't the best users to test it | 02:09 |
| afiestas | but anywya I'm unsure | 02:09 |
| afiestas | and you have 0 interaction to "hide it" | 02:09 |
| afiestas | I mean, you don't have interaction with printing unless you are printing something | 02:09 |
| ScottK | If one want it different, it can be configuried. | 02:10 |
| afiestas | that's not the case with the battery plasmoid or the bt | 02:10 |
| ScottK | I don't have interaction with BT unless I want to do something with it. | 02:10 |
| afiestas | well, I'm not going to change it unless some usability checks ar edone | 02:11 |
| ScottK | OK. | 02:11 |
| afiestas | personally I don't care much, so I need somebody to tell me to | 02:11 |
| ScottK | Not sure how to go about that. | 02:11 |
| afiestas | and in theory, bt systray will die by default | 02:11 |
| ScottK | Not sure what you mean by that? | 02:11 |
| afiestas | it won't be added by default to the systray | 02:12 |
| afiestas | you don't need to | 02:12 |
| afiestas | ho wmany times do you use it? the only common task performed in the tray is sending files | 02:12 |
| afiestas | and to do that you have Dolphin which works way better | 02:12 |
| afiestas | so b de | 02:12 |
| afiestas | so by default it will be hidden (not executed), and an option will be added to put it there again | 02:12 |
| afiestas | since it might be useful for some workflows involving many BT devices connections | 02:13 |
| ScottK | I'm finding it there by default now though, so I'm confused. | 02:13 |
| ScottK | (there = not hidden) | 02:13 |
| ScottK | I virtually never use it, which is why I like the idea of it auto hidden. | 02:14 |
| afiestas | yep | 02:15 |
| afiestas | it is still there | 02:15 |
| afiestas | but I plan to remove it | 02:15 |
| afiestas | 'm kinda sleepy (4:15 AM here) | 02:15 |
| afiestas | I wanted to say | 02:15 |
| afiestas | "Anyway it is going to be removed so we shouldn't worry too much about having it or not in the systray" | 02:16 |
| ScottK | OK. | 02:16 |
| ScottK | That makes sense. | 02:16 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 02:16 |
| ScottK | I was wondering if you were up early or late. | 02:16 |
| ScottK | (was suprised to get an immediate reply from you) | 02:16 |
| ScottK | For everyone: New Kubuntu builds are up, so please test. | 02:17 |
| Noskcaj | can anyone testing kubuntu(especially in NSW) keep an eye out for these two bugs 1066225 and 1066223 | 05:34 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1066225 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "encript home folder needs to be checkbox not radio button" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1066225 | 05:34 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1066223 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "kde ubiquity detects Sydney timezone but says Adelaide" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1066223 | 05:34 |
| shadeslayer | Noskcaj: can you add them to the QA tracker | 06:22 |
| shadeslayer | ( if you've not done it already ) | 06:22 |
| shadeslayer | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/240/builds/25717/testcases | 06:23 |
| Noskcaj | shadeslayer: i am running lvm + encription now and will and them with that | 06:23 |
| shadeslayer | what | 06:23 |
| Noskcaj | as i do mostly testing stuff | 06:23 |
| Noskcaj | kubuntu lvm + encription AMD64 | 06:23 |
| shadeslayer | wheeee | 08:09 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: UK Visa granted \o/ | 08:10 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 10:29 |
| shadeslayer | hi BluesKaj | 10:33 |
| BluesKaj | hey shadeslayer | 10:34 |
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| ScottK | Riddell: Please have a look at Bug #1066378 when you have a moment. | 19:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1066378 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "Unable to make secure wireless connection during live session with plasma-netbook" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1066378 | 19:48 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1066378] Unable to make secure wireless connection during live session with plasma-netbook @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1066378 (by Scott Kitterman) | 20:00 |
| ScottK | Sput: It's the same on 32 or 64 bit, fwiw. | 20:05 |
| Riddell | ScottK: hum, no immediate ideas on that one | 21:02 |
| ScottK | Didn't you do something so kdewallet wasn't used in the live session? | 21:03 |
| Riddell | rm -f /root/usr/share/kde4/services/kwalletd.desktop | 21:04 |
| Riddell | is in casper | 21:04 |
| Riddell | but that's the same for desktop and netbook | 21:04 |
| ScottK | OK. | 21:05 |
| ScottK | So then maybe netbook handles lack of the wallet differently. | 21:06 |
| TeLLuS | Hmm, Radeon 9200 Pro is not working as good as it did before. I get CPU hangs, could be HW related, will try the N.. GPUbrand. Installed a todays daily Kubuntu Desktop i386, Install (entire disk), Swedish translation from USB. Saw a few missing translation like he first one. It said Thank you for choosing Kubuntu 12.10. instead. | 21:11 |
| Riddell | ScottK: netbook live can connect to my wifi with password | 21:12 |
| ScottK | Hmmm. | 21:13 |
| ScottK | I had it fail on two different APs. | 21:13 |
| ScottK | TeLLuS: For your Radeon issues, #ubuntu-x is generally a better channel. | 21:13 |
| TeLLuS | Also I reacted from what it said that it was easy to install Firefox or Chrome. But I have not seen a generic browser selector, only the Firefox installer. | 21:14 |
| Riddell | TeLLuS: well Muon makes it easy to install anything :) | 21:18 |
| Noskcaj | just wanting to bring to your attention bug 1066225 as most of you wont be affected by it but end users will be confused | 21:19 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1066225 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "encript home folder needs to be checkbox not radio button" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1066225 | 21:19 |
| Riddell | TeLLuS: grep says there's no string "Thank you for choosing" in ubiquity, so it might be from d-i (or maybe you're reporting it wrongly confusing my grep) | 21:20 |
| Riddell | Noskcaj: not something that can be fixed at this stage in the release I'm afraid | 21:21 |
| Riddell | but patch for r-series welcome :) | 21:22 |
| Noskcaj | i didnt think it would | 21:22 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I'm not convinced what Noskcaj is proposing would be an improvement. | 21:22 |
| ScottK | I still don't understand what he thinks is wrong with the way it is now. | 21:23 |
| Noskcaj | ScottK: for people who no what their doing like you its not a problem but for most end users it is | 21:23 |
| Noskcaj | scottk have a look at the normal ubuntu equivelant | 21:23 |
| ScottK | I think it might be useful to add text that says encrypt and require password, not just encrypt, but I don't see why making it a checkbox is desirable. | 21:24 |
| Noskcaj | http://doztech.net/wp-content/uploads/images/2f47433e2d3d_11F52/Install-Ubuntu-12.04-on-a-Mac-using-VirtualBox--21.png | 21:25 |
| yofel | Riddell: the "Thank you for choosing" string is in the slideshow IIRC | 21:25 |
| Noskcaj | then if that is not wanted it needs rewprding | 21:25 |
| Riddell | yofel: ah I see | 21:25 |
| yofel | needs to be re-translated every release as it has the version number in it | 21:25 |
| Noskcaj | *rewording | 21:25 |
| ScottK | OK. Now that I see it, I agree that's clearer. | 21:26 |
| ScottK | As Riddell said, patch welcome for "R". | 21:26 |
| Noskcaj | if only i knew how to code this stuff | 21:28 |
| ScottK | If you got the source and looked, you could figure it out. | 21:29 |
| ScottK | Making changes in the U/I using kdevelop doesn't really require programming skills. | 21:29 |
| Noskcaj | ok, i will look into it later | 21:30 |
| TeLLuS | Riddell: I'll send you a picture to jr@jr... | 21:30 |
| Riddell | TeLLuS: yep, it's untranslated https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+source/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+pots/ubiquity-slideshow-kubuntu/sv/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=thank+you+for | 21:44 |
| ScottK | Is the German word for "Installation" installation? | 21:51 |
| ScottK | apachelogger should know. | 21:52 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Here's an even odder factor: Live session in German, I can connect. | 21:54 |
| yofel | ScottK: Installation is the same in german, right | 21:57 |
| TeLLuS | Riddell: Thanks for pointing me to that page. I have made a suggestion. | 22:00 |
| skaet | ScottK, Riddell - have created https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/topic-r-flavor-kubuntu for the Kubuntu team to use to group blueprints under of interest to the Kubuntu project as they get created/discovered. ;) | 22:21 |
| ScottK | yofel: thanks | 22:45 |
| Riddell | thanks skaet | 22:46 |
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