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WalzmynMy system sounds (error ding from KDE) are going to my HDMI sound card instead of the main sound card my speakers are plugged into. How do I switch it?00:17
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bjrohanHow do I make a symlink in a home folder to a usb drive so that I may access it via ssh on another computer?01:34
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bjrohanWhat is the difference between ssh fish and ftp when connecting to computers on a home network?04:57
bjrohanI have lubuntu with nautlius on a desktop, and Kubuntu on my laptop with Dolphin. I can connect the desktop to laptop with nautilus fairly easy, but with dolphin it is much more convluted, and as of now only via network which I can not get to stay connected. I want to use te external USB drive to back my laptop to04:59
brohanAnyone on that can help me with setting up Dolphin to connect to a remote computer effectively?05:30
bjrohanI need Dolphin help in a bad way, anyone?05:45
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BaldRUbuntu rules :)10:11
lordievaderBaldR: This is Kubuntu, for Ubuntu see #ubuntu.10:13
BaldRoki10:16
BluesKajHi all10:29
Guest40904hi kworld!11:53
Guest40904this is a fresh install of the kubuntu 12.0411:53
Guest40904there is one more big problem left: i cannot copy+paste e.g. from emacs or xterm into firefox dialog fields (e.g. pastebin). Please help me ...11:55
rorkGuest40904: how did you try to copy? Right mouse? Ctrl-Shift-C?12:08
rorkGuest40904: ah, xterm doesn't seem to allow copy-paste, why not use konsole instead?12:10
odozutmvI had a package manager crash, what is the command to restart the packet manager?12:21
Guest40904rork: In emacs i tied everything, marking with the mouse, should suffice, since i can paste in emacs for sure. In xterm (sage running) i just mark, since Control+C stops sage from working... Well, copy paste from konsole into pastebin.com works. But emacs to konsole does not work. This is odd!12:27
Guest40904rork: i need emacs -> console (sage interpreter, sort of python+math) since i cannot program in the console and i want to still have the code12:29
Guest40904what is this idea to have somehow two registers for copied stuff? one for x-application and the other one for the other ones? This drives me crazy, it is a good reason to switch to some other system for the next 5 years12:30
Guest40904(ubuntu unity already did this service for me, no unity on my computers!)12:31
Guest40904i will google still for this copy+paste problem, but at the end of the day there is a solution or something else instead of kubuntu installed here12:33
Guest40904nice chat room, it is dedicated to xeros quit policy12:43
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BluesKajGuest40904, yeah I was about to call an op , this is becoming annoying12:44
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BluesKajikonia , can you kicj this xeros guy pls he's flooding us12:45
BluesKajerr kick12:45
ikoniasure thing12:46
ikoniaBluesKaj: thanks, sorry I didn't notice earlier12:46
BluesKajthanks ikonia , much appreciated12:47
Guest40904thanks, too!12:47
BluesKajikonia, one would think if it was unintentional that he would stop trying to connect after 50 tries :)12:48
ikoniaI suspect autojoin maybe the bad man here12:48
BluesKajhe should still notice that , if he wants to chat12:49
ikoniaI suspect he'll notice a lot of channels have forwarded him to ##fix_your_connection12:50
ikoniahopefully problem solved now.12:50
ikoniaI'm off12:50
BluesKajok . later12:51
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Nine_9hello guys, in kde 4.8, the network manager tray icon is a little different than the others (it has black a gray parts, while the others are only white/transparent) I don't know if this is from my Icon theme or from the app itself, but i'd like to change it, do you have any ideas how?14:27
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BluesKajNine_9, could be from your desktop theme setting14:32
Nine_9BluesKaj: any ideas on where the icons images are located?14:32
mark___i have a problem. i just updated to kde 4.9.2 and im missing some components like the update center.14:35
BluesKajit's probly not the icom images that's affecting the look , it may be the theme..icons are in systemsettings>application appearance>icons14:35
BluesKajNine_9,^14:35
Nine_9BluesKaj: thank you14:35
BluesKajmark___, run sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade14:36
mark___if by any chance could i do a clean install14:38
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mark___BluesKa: the command didn't work14:41
mark___could someone help?14:43
mark___i have a problem. i just updated to kde 4.9.2 and im missing some components like the update center.14:45
bazhangwhat was the error mark___14:45
mark___error for what?14:45
bazhangmark___, run sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade14:45
bazhang!paste | mark___14:46
ubottumark___: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.14:46
mark___it says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.14:47
bazhangok, and what package did you want to install mark___14:48
mark___i'm prettey much a noob when it comes to kde and kubuntu. all i want to do is do a clead install of kde 4.9.214:49
mark___*clean14:49
pfooanyone noticed that gwenview plugins are sorted in wrong submenus in kde4.9.2 / gwenview 2.9.1 ?14:51
shadeslayermark___: checkout the channel topic14:52
mark___where?14:52
Nine_9the tray icons are in /usr/share/kde4/apps/desktoptheme/default/icons/ in case anyone is intrested14:52
shadeslayermark___: just type /topic14:53
phoenix_firebrdhello everyone14:53
mark___i resently  installed kde 4.9.2 and it completely messed up ad i want to do a clean install of kde 4.9.2.15:10
mark___help?!15:12
shadeslayeruhh, messed up? how ?15:13
mark___a lot of apps and componets are missing15:14
shadeslayertry sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop15:15
shadeslayerhave to go for dinner, cya15:15
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ncfi1013what is the simplest command to force delete directory files?15:56
ncfi1013_what is the simplest command to force delete directory files?15:57
Dexter_Fpatience, young padawan.15:57
Dexter_Frm -r  will recurse, rm -rf will recurse and not ask questions15:57
Dexter_Fit will stop at permissiosn it does not have, like files that belong to other users and you dont have write rights to15:58
ncfi1013_what i want specifically is to delete folders inside of a particular directory but not the main directory16:01
lzajhello, which download manager can i use under kubuntu?16:12
DarthFrogDexter_F:  "cd Directory ; rm -rf * ; cd .. ; rmdir  Directory" is safer.16:12
bazhanglzaj, to download what16:12
Dexter_FDarthFrog: huh?16:12
shadeslayerheh16:13
Dexter_Fhow?16:13
DarthFrogDexter_F:  Then you're sure that you're only deleting the files you wish to delete.16:13
Dexter_FDarthFrog: doesn't make sense to me. what would rm -rf <dirname> do differently?16:14
lzajbazhang: regular links16:15
lordievaderOr use the -i switch when using rm.16:15
DarthFrogDexter_F: Nothing.  As long as you (a) used the right directory name and (b) spelled it correctly.  This I learned the hard way. :-)16:15
lzajbazhang: also i would like to be able to resume download when downloading mp4 from youtube16:15
bazhanglzaj, there is command line utility called youtube-dl , or a firefox addon for that16:16
lzajbazhang: it can resume downloads?16:16
bazhanglzaj, I dont know, the firefox addon can convert on the fly, though, from flv to more playable formats16:17
lzajbazhang: with youtube-dl " ERROR: unable to download video "16:19
lzajfor link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3mhkYbznBk16:19
lzajyoutube-dl has a resume option so it's a shame16:20
lzajbazhang: hm, it worked after -U update16:23
bazhangok16:24
bazhang the -t switch should give it a proper name16:24
lzajye thanks16:24
bazhangnp16:24
Nine_9hey guys, how can i change the altgr+prtscr+K shortcut back to the good old ctrl+alt_backspc?16:27
Nine_9or it's better to just get used to the new shortcut?16:28
DarthFrogNine_9:  I *think* it's changeable in SystemSettings.  not sure though.16:28
Nine_9in case it's becoming a kinda standart16:28
Nine_9DarthFrog: i couldn't find anything there16:29
DarthFrogNine_9:  setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp16:30
Nine_9DarthFrog: you're right. It's in "Input Devices"-"Keyboard"-"Advanced"16:30
Nine_9ops16:30
Nine_9=/16:30
Nine_9i was looking in the keyboard section16:31
Nine_9I thought this were configured in a xserver config file16:31
Nine_9anyway, thank you DarthFrog.16:31
DarthFrogHmm, I not that I've enabled it, too. :-)16:31
Nine_9i'm gonna try it right now :)16:32
Nine_9it works :)16:32
DarthFroggood stuff16:33
Nine_9those icons effects are awesome, it's a pity though they doesn't work for some icons on the task manager (e.g: firefox).16:44
Nine_9however, it's great to have all the icons on the K menu colored the same. No other window manager has such feature afaik.16:45
* BluesKaj muses ...well to each his own :)16:47
Nine_9I was a big fan of gnome until v3, but i hated unity and gnome3, and i thought it wouldn't make sense to stick with gnome2, tried xfce and didn't like also, and as I had some previous experience with kde4, i decided to give it a try and i'm simply loving it.16:49
lordievaderNine_9: There is still gnome-classic.16:49
Nine_9lordievader: that's gnome 2 afaik16:50
lordievaderNine_9: That is why I said it.16:50
Nine_9but i said that i think it doesn't make sense to use such an ancient wm nowadays16:53
Nine_9:)16:53
lordievaderNine_9: Yeah, I reminded myself again that I only read things half... sorry.16:54
mimehello ppl, can anyone say me how to put any folder in a button or menu in fvwm? thnx17:20
DarthFrogIn fvwm???  Why on Earth are you running such an ancient window manager?17:21
DarthFrogI doubt anyone running Kubuntu would still be using fvwm.  Afterall, the point of Kubuntu is to run KDE SC.17:22
mimeim on crystal17:23
DarthFrogmime: However there is a #fvwm channel.  That would be the appropriate place to ask for the help you want.17:23
mimetynx17:23
mimecya ppl17:24
shomagoogle.com17:25
mimemime: this is #fvwm, try #fvwm-crystal (two different window managers)17:39
mimeonly 1 person17:39
DarthFrogmime: When you venture into obscurity, you're not likely to find too many other people there who can guide you. :-)17:45
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Guest40904i promised in the morning that i will wipe out the kubuntu from all hd's if there is no workaround to the copy+paste problems :: it seems that there are now *two* clipboards, one for console, one for x-applications!18:15
Guest40904well, i found a workaround, i use xclipboard18:15
Guest40904but this is that annoying, simply impossible to accept this18:15
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Guest40904some years ago there was no problem to copy+paste from firefox, xterm, emacs, xemacs, vim ... in each other18:16
Guest40904now, we revolutionary have the chance to use xclipboard in between18:16
Guest40904whose idiocratic idea is this?18:17
Guest40904if some live linux distro does not have this nice feature, i will skip in a second18:18
Guest40904can somebody here tell me why is it impossible to copy+paste from emacs or xterm into firefox (e.g. pastebin.com paste field) ?18:19
DarthFrogit isn't.18:19
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lzajtry the middle button18:20
lzajone annoying thing is if you copy something from kate for instance18:21
lzajand then you close kate18:21
lzajyou can't paste it anymore :(18:21
DarthFroglzaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1277420/18:21
DarthFrogFrom a yakuake session.18:21
DarthFrogMind you, the pastebin session was in rekonq.18:22
DarthFroghttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1277424/  from pasting in Firefox.18:23
lzajDarthFrog: well i've just tried: open kate : write something, copy it, close kate; then try to paste it here18:23
DarthFrogOK, I'll give it a shot18:23
lzajit looks like you can only paste from applications that are still open18:24
DarthFrogNope.  Works fine.  Opened a text file in Kate.  Copied it, closed Kate, pasted into pastebin on Firefox. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1277430/18:26
FlameReaperI suppose I've been quite tolerant enough of AMD's drivers18:44
avihayGuest40904: you can try using klipper and pick synchronize contents of clipboard and selection18:53
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LuDiX_BoSSy_OnEcouniamanmanw18:54
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Guest40904avihay: thanks for the answer, i realize now that the story is a well known story. Well, although i distroyed xclipboard, i get some problems to run klipper, and of course i cannot paste here the error mess from the xterm! Nice19:14
jacksonjeI just installed kubuntu quantal along with proprietary nvidia drivers. Now the effects no longer work, but kde says they are on. Any suggestions?19:15
Guest40904lzaj: i tried everything, Shift+insert, middle button, Control+V, Shift+Control+V and so on. xclipboard was a trial and error possibility to still have something work. Of course, i had to do the right "copy" from emacs, mark and Meta+w, never had to do it before, then paste with shift+Insert in the xclipboard, since Controv+V made the paste uncontrolled. (I could not understand what i was pasting.)19:18
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Guest40904darthfrog: i never use kate and konsole, where things seem to work, i use emacs to edit code (sagemath) since i need the python-mode, then i run the code in the xterm interpreter, since i can run xterm -bg tan4 -fg snow,  (and many other colors), then i want to paste the result on a math page (in firefox)19:19
Guest40904why there are *two clipboards on this one linux?19:20
DarthFrogKlipper is the only one I use.19:21
BluesKajjacksonje, try the nvidia-current driver for 12.10 , it runs better than the proprietary19:21
BluesKajjacksonje, that what I'm using for the geforce 8400GS19:22
jacksonjenvidia-current is what I'm using19:22
jacksonjewhich is the proprietary driver19:23
BluesKajjacksonje, odd . mine lists simply as nvidia_current in jockey/additional drivers19:25
Guest40904DarthFrog: ok, i tried klipper, get the following message: Klipper is already running! Check it in the system tray in the panel. QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave.19:26
Guest40904DarthFrog: why do i need to use a klipper?19:26
jacksonjenvidia current is proprietary, nouveau is open source19:26
BluesKajjacksonje, what does additional drivers list your active driver as?19:27
jacksonjenvidia-current19:28
BluesKajOpenGL in desktop effects advanced19:28
BluesKaj?19:28
jacksonjeyes19:28
jacksonjehmm, says this driver is activated but not currently in use19:29
BluesKajQt graphics is ?19:29
jacksonjein jockey19:29
jacksonjenative19:29
BluesKajany errors with desktop effects enabled ?19:30
jacksonjenope19:30
jacksonjethey just don't show any effects19:30
jacksonjethey are listed as on, but there is no transparency, or present windows or anything19:30
avihayGuest40904: well, on my machine, I mark some text in xterm, go to any other program and middle click and the text pastes19:35
BluesKajjacksonje, try raster instead of native19:35
avihayincludeing in xterm itself19:35
avihayI can also mark text in any other program and paste in xterm by middle click19:36
jacksonjewhy would I want to shift rendering burden to the CPU instead of the GPU?19:37
avihaywhat does xterm -bg tan4 -fg snow do? I get a brown xterm19:37
avihayGuest40904: ?19:41
jacksonjeahh so the problem was using the kde system settings to configure the display properties, doing that broke the effects on my nvidia20:34
bjrohancan anyone give me insight to using ssh and Dolphin? I am having issues20:56
lordievaderbjrohan: What do you want to do exactly?20:57
bjrohanI want to establish a connection to my desktop's root folde so that I can access an external USB drive for backups20:59
lordievaderbjrohan: Ok, so you want to mount the external USB drive through ssh?20:59
bjrohanIt seems when I try I can only access the root when I go to the Network folder and connect that way, however, that connection doesn't remain viable once I close the new window it opens20:59
bjrohanYes21:00
bjrohanOn that computer is is mounted in /media21:00
lordievaderbjrohan: You probably want to use sshfs, for this you need to install (on the client) the package "sshfs".21:01
bjrohanIf I install Nautilus, it automatically finds and connect to that computer without me doing anything, however in Dolphin it seems to be a nightmare21:02
lordievaderbjrohan: After you have done that, you need to create a folder where you want to mount the folder.21:02
bjrohanWhy, what does that do? i am looking to learn not just do things to get them to work21:02
lordievaderbjrohan: And then as a final step run the command: sshfs -o idmap=user user@<ip-of-machine>:<path> <target>21:03
bjrohanAltough I am very grateful for any help21:03
lordievaderbjrohan: The package is needed to be able to mount the directory through ssh.21:04
avihaybjrohan: sftp://username@serveradress/media21:04
avihaybut it uses a crappy KIO slave that doesn't do streaming, so it's useful only to push files around. if you want something serious, sshfs21:06
lordievaderOr something insecure but very fast: nfs :D21:06
bjrohanavihay when I do that I get an error that the key does not match, blah blah blah. If i delete the /.ssh file that goes away but then a message box appears if I want to connect (3x) I click yes, and there is no connection made21:06
avihaybjrohan: that error message is the same you should get if you try to ssh there21:07
avihaydhcp and reassigning ip addresses and all21:07
bjrohanLet me askyou guys this, would setting up a Samba server be better?21:07
lordievaderbjrohan: I'd stick with sshfs, for as far as I know it is safer than smb/cifs.21:08
avihayon my network, samba is only slightly faster then ssh21:08
bjrohanok21:08
bjrohanHow can I remedy the whole key error message?21:09
avihayanyway, retry sshfs in dolphin21:09
avihayerr sftp21:09
bjrohanso do sshfs or sftp?21:09
avihaysftp://21:09
bjrohanso do NOT install sshfs?21:10
avihayit depends if you only need to push files around, via the gui only, or if you need to mount the system properly21:10
jmpiloqwhat about fish?21:10
avihayI think it's deprecated by sftp21:11
jmpiloqhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Files_transferred_over_shell_protocol21:11
bjrohanI am strictly using this so that I can backup my laptop to the external USB drive attached to the desktop machine located @ 192.168.0.221:11
lordievaderbjrohan: If it's a private network you might even use nfs, much faster on my own network than sshfs.21:12
lordievaderbjrohan: But I'm just confusing you, answer avihay's question.21:13
bjrohanIt is in my home. I have DSL which is a modem/router in one my desktop is hardwired, my laptop is wireless, and my wife has windoze that is wireless that I am not worried about21:13
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bjrohanI have the network address for the laptop and desktop reserved so they never change21:15
avihayif you want to back up, you probably wanna automate it/script it. you can use scp to copy via ssh from the command line/script21:15
bjrohanDesktop is running Lubuntu with open SSH server and client. I have Nautilus installed on that machine, and it can access my laptop with no setup. My laptop has Kubuntu with Dolphin which I prefer, and as I said Nautilus on my laptop auto finds and access my desktop, Dolphin does not21:16
jmpiloqseems like you could use rsnyc for that21:16
jmpiloqrsync21:16
avihaywithout installing anything, you can use http://pingbin.com/2011/12/recursive-scp-file-copy/ for backing up from command line21:17
bjrohanYeah, and now I am spinning around :-)21:18
avihayto use a gui to to transfer stuff, I use sftp in dolphin, works fine most times21:18
bjrohanI could also just plug my laptop into the USB drive everynight and do a direct backup21:18
lordievaderbjrohan: Is probably even faster ;)21:19
bjrohanand where do I enter the SFTP info so that the USB drive is always visible when I open Dolphin? I can type it into the Network Places, but I don't find a way to make it stay there once I close the window that Network Places opens21:19
avihayif you want it permanent, in dolphin, go to network in the "places" selector21:21
avihayyou should see a few icons, one of them should be a new folder icon with the text Add Network folder21:21
bjrohanI do that, but it never creates a folder it seems, just opens a new window, that once closed I have no access21:22
avihayit should offer you webdav ftp cifs/samba and ssh21:22
avihayhumm, I see it in the remote:/ url21:23
avihaythe place from where I picked to add network folder21:23
avihaydid you have the create an icon for this folder option ticked?21:24
bjrohanPerhaps not. Dolphin hung on that operation so I am closing it out. Do I want to choose SSH or the FTP option when creating a new folder?21:25
bjrohanFrom the options choose and FTP connection or SSH when creating a new network folder?21:29
bjrohanBRB, no matter what I do Dolphin is unresponsive when trying to connect :-(21:31
vertago1As anyone here used apt-p2p any?21:31
bjrohanOKAY. I got in. I had to use SSH option, then use the fish option21:32
bjrohanBUT I have no new folder :-( It opened up a new window with the / directory of the desktop but no folder in the original window even though I checkmarked that box21:33
bjrohanWhere should this folder icon be located?21:35
bjrohanHello?21:36
bjrohanAnd this is where I have issues with Dolphin21:38
bjrohanWas it something I said?21:42
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IdleOne!kdesvn23:49
ubottuSee http://developer.kde.org/source/anonsvn.html for details on accessing KDE's code via SVN23:49
IdleOneSomeone know the proper link to replace that one in the factoid?23:50
avihay!kdegit23:51
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