[00:17] <Walzmyn> My system sounds (error ding from KDE) are going to my HDMI sound card instead of the main sound card my speakers are plugged into. How do I switch it?
[00:50] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[01:34] <bjrohan> How do I make a symlink in a home folder to a usb drive so that I may access it via ssh on another computer?
[04:57] <bjrohan> What is the difference between ssh fish and ftp when connecting to computers on a home network?
[04:59] <bjrohan> I have lubuntu with nautlius on a desktop, and Kubuntu on my laptop with Dolphin. I can connect the desktop to laptop with nautilus fairly easy, but with dolphin it is much more convluted, and as of now only via network which I can not get to stay connected. I want to use te external USB drive to back my laptop to
[05:30] <brohan> Anyone on that can help me with setting up Dolphin to connect to a remote computer effectively?
[05:45] <bjrohan> I need Dolphin help in a bad way, anyone?
[06:52] <Guest87796> hi9
[06:52] <Guest87796> hi
[08:16] <Lord_Drachenblut> crontab -e
[10:11] <BaldR> Ubuntu rules :)
[10:13] <lordievader> BaldR: This is Kubuntu, for Ubuntu see #ubuntu.
[10:16] <BaldR> oki
[10:29] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:53] <Guest40904> hi kworld!
[11:53] <Guest40904> this is a fresh install of the kubuntu 12.04
[11:55] <Guest40904> there is one more big problem left: i cannot copy+paste e.g. from emacs or xterm into firefox dialog fields (e.g. pastebin). Please help me ...
[12:08] <rork> Guest40904: how did you try to copy? Right mouse? Ctrl-Shift-C?
[12:10] <rork> Guest40904: ah, xterm doesn't seem to allow copy-paste, why not use konsole instead?
[12:21] <odozutmv> I had a package manager crash, what is the command to restart the packet manager?
[12:27] <Guest40904> rork: In emacs i tied everything, marking with the mouse, should suffice, since i can paste in emacs for sure. In xterm (sage running) i just mark, since Control+C stops sage from working... Well, copy paste from konsole into pastebin.com works. But emacs to konsole does not work. This is odd!
[12:29] <Guest40904> rork: i need emacs -> console (sage interpreter, sort of python+math) since i cannot program in the console and i want to still have the code
[12:30] <Guest40904> what is this idea to have somehow two registers for copied stuff? one for x-application and the other one for the other ones? This drives me crazy, it is a good reason to switch to some other system for the next 5 years
[12:31] <Guest40904> (ubuntu unity already did this service for me, no unity on my computers!)
[12:33] <Guest40904> i will google still for this copy+paste problem, but at the end of the day there is a solution or something else instead of kubuntu installed here
[12:43] <Guest40904> nice chat room, it is dedicated to xeros quit policy
[12:44] <BluesKaj> Guest40904, yeah I was about to call an op , this is becoming annoying
[12:45] <BluesKaj> ikonia , can you kicj this xeros guy pls he's flooding us
[12:45] <BluesKaj> err kick
[12:46] <ikonia> sure thing
[12:46] <ikonia> BluesKaj: thanks, sorry I didn't notice earlier
[12:47] <BluesKaj> thanks ikonia , much appreciated
[12:47] <Guest40904> thanks, too!
[12:48] <BluesKaj> ikonia, one would think if it was unintentional that he would stop trying to connect after 50 tries :)
[12:48] <ikonia> I suspect autojoin maybe the bad man here
[12:49] <BluesKaj> he should still notice that , if he wants to chat
[12:50] <ikonia> I suspect he'll notice a lot of channels have forwarded him to ##fix_your_connection
[12:50] <ikonia> hopefully problem solved now.
[12:50] <ikonia> I'm off
[12:51] <BluesKaj> ok . later
[14:27] <Nine_9> hello guys, in kde 4.8, the network manager tray icon is a little different than the others (it has black a gray parts, while the others are only white/transparent) I don't know if this is from my Icon theme or from the app itself, but i'd like to change it, do you have any ideas how?
[14:32] <BluesKaj> Nine_9, could be from your desktop theme setting
[14:32] <Nine_9> BluesKaj: any ideas on where the icons images are located?
[14:35] <mark___> i have a problem. i just updated to kde 4.9.2 and im missing some components like the update center.
[14:35] <BluesKaj> it's probly not the icom images that's affecting the look , it may be the theme..icons are in systemsettings>application appearance>icons
[14:35] <BluesKaj> Nine_9,^
[14:35] <Nine_9> BluesKaj: thank you
[14:36] <BluesKaj> mark___, run sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:38] <mark___> if by any chance could i do a clean install
[14:41] <mark___> BluesKa: the command didn't work
[14:43] <mark___> could someone help?
[14:45] <mark___> i have a problem. i just updated to kde 4.9.2 and im missing some components like the update center.
[14:45] <bazhang> what was the error mark___
[14:45] <mark___> error for what?
[14:45] <bazhang> mark___, run sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:46] <bazhang> !paste | mark___
[14:47] <mark___> it says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[14:48] <bazhang> ok, and what package did you want to install mark___
[14:49] <mark___> i'm prettey much a noob when it comes to kde and kubuntu. all i want to do is do a clead install of kde 4.9.2
[14:49] <mark___> *clean
[14:51] <pfoo> anyone noticed that gwenview plugins are sorted in wrong submenus in kde4.9.2 / gwenview 2.9.1 ?
[14:52] <shadeslayer> mark___: checkout the channel topic
[14:52] <mark___> where?
[14:52] <Nine_9> the tray icons are in /usr/share/kde4/apps/desktoptheme/default/icons/ in case anyone is intrested
[14:53] <shadeslayer> mark___: just type /topic
[14:53] <phoenix_firebrd> hello everyone
[15:10] <mark___> i resently  installed kde 4.9.2 and it completely messed up ad i want to do a clean install of kde 4.9.2.
[15:12] <mark___> help?!
[15:13] <shadeslayer> uhh, messed up? how ?
[15:14] <mark___> a lot of apps and componets are missing
[15:15] <shadeslayer> try sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[15:15] <shadeslayer> have to go for dinner, cya
[15:56] <ncfi1013> what is the simplest command to force delete directory files?
[15:57] <ncfi1013_> what is the simplest command to force delete directory files?
[15:57] <Dexter_F> patience, young padawan.
[15:57] <Dexter_F> rm -r  will recurse, rm -rf will recurse and not ask questions
[15:58] <Dexter_F> it will stop at permissiosn it does not have, like files that belong to other users and you dont have write rights to
[16:01] <ncfi1013_> what i want specifically is to delete folders inside of a particular directory but not the main directory
[16:12] <lzaj> hello, which download manager can i use under kubuntu?
[16:12] <DarthFrog> Dexter_F:  "cd Directory ; rm -rf * ; cd .. ; rmdir  Directory" is safer.
[16:12] <bazhang> lzaj, to download what
[16:12] <Dexter_F> DarthFrog: huh?
[16:13] <shadeslayer> heh
[16:13] <Dexter_F> how?
[16:13] <DarthFrog> Dexter_F:  Then you're sure that you're only deleting the files you wish to delete.
[16:14] <Dexter_F> DarthFrog: doesn't make sense to me. what would rm -rf <dirname> do differently?
[16:15] <lzaj> bazhang: regular links
[16:15] <lordievader> Or use the -i switch when using rm.
[16:15] <DarthFrog> Dexter_F: Nothing.  As long as you (a) used the right directory name and (b) spelled it correctly.  This I learned the hard way. :-)
[16:15] <lzaj> bazhang: also i would like to be able to resume download when downloading mp4 from youtube
[16:16] <bazhang> lzaj, there is command line utility called youtube-dl , or a firefox addon for that
[16:16] <lzaj> bazhang: it can resume downloads?
[16:17] <bazhang> lzaj, I dont know, the firefox addon can convert on the fly, though, from flv to more playable formats
[16:19] <lzaj> bazhang: with youtube-dl " ERROR: unable to download video "
[16:19] <lzaj> for link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3mhkYbznBk
[16:20] <lzaj> youtube-dl has a resume option so it's a shame
[16:23] <lzaj> bazhang: hm, it worked after -U update
[16:24] <bazhang> ok
[16:24] <bazhang>  the -t switch should give it a proper name
[16:24] <lzaj> ye thanks
[16:24] <bazhang> np
[16:27] <Nine_9> hey guys, how can i change the altgr+prtscr+K shortcut back to the good old ctrl+alt_backspc?
[16:28] <Nine_9> or it's better to just get used to the new shortcut?
[16:28] <DarthFrog> Nine_9:  I *think* it's changeable in SystemSettings.  not sure though.
[16:28] <Nine_9> in case it's becoming a kinda standart
[16:29] <Nine_9> DarthFrog: i couldn't find anything there
[16:30] <DarthFrog> Nine_9:  setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
[16:30] <Nine_9> DarthFrog: you're right. It's in "Input Devices"-"Keyboard"-"Advanced"
[16:30] <Nine_9> ops
[16:30] <Nine_9> =/
[16:31] <Nine_9> i was looking in the keyboard section
[16:31] <Nine_9> I thought this were configured in a xserver config file
[16:31] <Nine_9> anyway, thank you DarthFrog.
[16:31] <DarthFrog> Hmm, I not that I've enabled it, too. :-)
[16:32] <Nine_9> i'm gonna try it right now :)
[16:32] <Nine_9> it works :)
[16:33] <DarthFrog> good stuff
[16:44] <Nine_9> those icons effects are awesome, it's a pity though they doesn't work for some icons on the task manager (e.g: firefox).
[16:45] <Nine_9> however, it's great to have all the icons on the K menu colored the same. No other window manager has such feature afaik.
[16:47]  * BluesKaj muses ...well to each his own :)
[16:49] <Nine_9> I was a big fan of gnome until v3, but i hated unity and gnome3, and i thought it wouldn't make sense to stick with gnome2, tried xfce and didn't like also, and as I had some previous experience with kde4, i decided to give it a try and i'm simply loving it.
[16:49] <lordievader> Nine_9: There is still gnome-classic.
[16:50] <Nine_9> lordievader: that's gnome 2 afaik
[16:50] <lordievader> Nine_9: That is why I said it.
[16:53] <Nine_9> but i said that i think it doesn't make sense to use such an ancient wm nowadays
[16:53] <Nine_9> :)
[16:54] <lordievader> Nine_9: Yeah, I reminded myself again that I only read things half... sorry.
[17:20] <mime> hello ppl, can anyone say me how to put any folder in a button or menu in fvwm? thnx
[17:21] <DarthFrog> In fvwm???  Why on Earth are you running such an ancient window manager?
[17:22] <DarthFrog> I doubt anyone running Kubuntu would still be using fvwm.  Afterall, the point of Kubuntu is to run KDE SC.
[17:23] <mime> im on crystal
[17:23] <DarthFrog> mime: However there is a #fvwm channel.  That would be the appropriate place to ask for the help you want.
[17:23] <mime> tynx
[17:24] <mime> cya ppl
[17:25] <shoma> google.com
[17:39] <mime> mime: this is #fvwm, try #fvwm-crystal (two different window managers)
[17:39] <mime> only 1 person
[17:45] <DarthFrog> mime: When you venture into obscurity, you're not likely to find too many other people there who can guide you. :-)
[18:15] <Guest40904> i promised in the morning that i will wipe out the kubuntu from all hd's if there is no workaround to the copy+paste problems :: it seems that there are now *two* clipboards, one for console, one for x-applications!
[18:15] <Guest40904> well, i found a workaround, i use xclipboard
[18:15] <Guest40904> but this is that annoying, simply impossible to accept this
[18:16] <Guest40904> some years ago there was no problem to copy+paste from firefox, xterm, emacs, xemacs, vim ... in each other
[18:16] <Guest40904> now, we revolutionary have the chance to use xclipboard in between
[18:17] <Guest40904> whose idiocratic idea is this?
[18:18] <Guest40904> if some live linux distro does not have this nice feature, i will skip in a second
[18:19] <Guest40904> can somebody here tell me why is it impossible to copy+paste from emacs or xterm into firefox (e.g. pastebin.com paste field) ?
[18:19] <DarthFrog> it isn't.
[18:20] <lzaj> try the middle button
[18:21] <lzaj> one annoying thing is if you copy something from kate for instance
[18:21] <lzaj> and then you close kate
[18:21] <lzaj> you can't paste it anymore :(
[18:21] <DarthFrog> lzaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1277420/
[18:21] <DarthFrog> From a yakuake session.
[18:22] <DarthFrog> Mind you, the pastebin session was in rekonq.
[18:23] <DarthFrog> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1277424/  from pasting in Firefox.
[18:23] <lzaj> DarthFrog: well i've just tried: open kate : write something, copy it, close kate; then try to paste it here
[18:23] <DarthFrog> OK, I'll give it a shot
[18:24] <lzaj> it looks like you can only paste from applications that are still open
[18:26] <DarthFrog> Nope.  Works fine.  Opened a text file in Kate.  Copied it, closed Kate, pasted into pastebin on Firefox. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1277430/
[18:44] <FlameReaper> I suppose I've been quite tolerant enough of AMD's drivers
[18:53] <avihay> Guest40904: you can try using klipper and pick synchronize contents of clipboard and selection
[18:54] <LuDiX_BoSSy_OnE> couniamanmanw
[19:14] <Guest40904> avihay: thanks for the answer, i realize now that the story is a well known story. Well, although i distroyed xclipboard, i get some problems to run klipper, and of course i cannot paste here the error mess from the xterm! Nice
[19:15] <jacksonje> I just installed kubuntu quantal along with proprietary nvidia drivers. Now the effects no longer work, but kde says they are on. Any suggestions?
[19:18] <Guest40904> lzaj: i tried everything, Shift+insert, middle button, Control+V, Shift+Control+V and so on. xclipboard was a trial and error possibility to still have something work. Of course, i had to do the right "copy" from emacs, mark and Meta+w, never had to do it before, then paste with shift+Insert in the xclipboard, since Controv+V made the paste uncontrolled. (I could not understand what i was pasting.)
[19:19] <Guest40904> darthfrog: i never use kate and konsole, where things seem to work, i use emacs to edit code (sagemath) since i need the python-mode, then i run the code in the xterm interpreter, since i can run xterm -bg tan4 -fg snow,  (and many other colors), then i want to paste the result on a math page (in firefox)
[19:20] <Guest40904> why there are *two clipboards on this one linux?
[19:21] <DarthFrog> Klipper is the only one I use.
[19:21] <BluesKaj> jacksonje, try the nvidia-current driver for 12.10 , it runs better than the proprietary
[19:22] <BluesKaj> jacksonje, that what I'm using for the geforce 8400GS
[19:22] <jacksonje> nvidia-current is what I'm using
[19:23] <jacksonje> which is the proprietary driver
[19:25] <BluesKaj> jacksonje, odd . mine lists simply as nvidia_current in jockey/additional drivers
[19:26] <Guest40904> DarthFrog: ok, i tried klipper, get the following message: Klipper is already running! Check it in the system tray in the panel. QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave.
[19:26] <Guest40904> DarthFrog: why do i need to use a klipper?
[19:26] <jacksonje> nvidia current is proprietary, nouveau is open source
[19:27] <BluesKaj> jacksonje, what does additional drivers list your active driver as?
[19:28] <jacksonje> nvidia-current
[19:28] <BluesKaj> OpenGL in desktop effects advanced
[19:28] <BluesKaj> ?
[19:28] <jacksonje> yes
[19:29] <jacksonje> hmm, says this driver is activated but not currently in use
[19:29] <BluesKaj> Qt graphics is ?
[19:29] <jacksonje> in jockey
[19:29] <jacksonje> native
[19:30] <BluesKaj> any errors with desktop effects enabled ?
[19:30] <jacksonje> nope
[19:30] <jacksonje> they just don't show any effects
[19:30] <jacksonje> they are listed as on, but there is no transparency, or present windows or anything
[19:35] <avihay> Guest40904: well, on my machine, I mark some text in xterm, go to any other program and middle click and the text pastes
[19:35] <BluesKaj> jacksonje, try raster instead of native
[19:35] <avihay> includeing in xterm itself
[19:36] <avihay> I can also mark text in any other program and paste in xterm by middle click
[19:37] <jacksonje> why would I want to shift rendering burden to the CPU instead of the GPU?
[19:37] <avihay> what does xterm -bg tan4 -fg snow do? I get a brown xterm
[19:41] <avihay> Guest40904: ?
[20:34] <jacksonje> ahh so the problem was using the kde system settings to configure the display properties, doing that broke the effects on my nvidia
[20:56] <bjrohan> can anyone give me insight to using ssh and Dolphin? I am having issues
[20:57] <lordievader> bjrohan: What do you want to do exactly?
[20:59] <bjrohan> I want to establish a connection to my desktop's root folde so that I can access an external USB drive for backups
[20:59] <lordievader> bjrohan: Ok, so you want to mount the external USB drive through ssh?
[20:59] <bjrohan> It seems when I try I can only access the root when I go to the Network folder and connect that way, however, that connection doesn't remain viable once I close the new window it opens
[21:00] <bjrohan> Yes
[21:00] <bjrohan> On that computer is is mounted in /media
[21:01] <lordievader> bjrohan: You probably want to use sshfs, for this you need to install (on the client) the package "sshfs".
[21:02] <bjrohan> If I install Nautilus, it automatically finds and connect to that computer without me doing anything, however in Dolphin it seems to be a nightmare
[21:02] <lordievader> bjrohan: After you have done that, you need to create a folder where you want to mount the folder.
[21:02] <bjrohan> Why, what does that do? i am looking to learn not just do things to get them to work
[21:03] <lordievader> bjrohan: And then as a final step run the command: sshfs -o idmap=user user@<ip-of-machine>:<path> <target>
[21:03] <bjrohan> Altough I am very grateful for any help
[21:04] <lordievader> bjrohan: The package is needed to be able to mount the directory through ssh.
[21:04] <avihay> bjrohan: sftp://username@serveradress/media
[21:06] <avihay> but it uses a crappy KIO slave that doesn't do streaming, so it's useful only to push files around. if you want something serious, sshfs
[21:06] <lordievader> Or something insecure but very fast: nfs :D
[21:06] <bjrohan> avihay when I do that I get an error that the key does not match, blah blah blah. If i delete the /.ssh file that goes away but then a message box appears if I want to connect (3x) I click yes, and there is no connection made
[21:07] <avihay> bjrohan: that error message is the same you should get if you try to ssh there
[21:07] <avihay> dhcp and reassigning ip addresses and all
[21:07] <bjrohan> Let me askyou guys this, would setting up a Samba server be better?
[21:08] <lordievader> bjrohan: I'd stick with sshfs, for as far as I know it is safer than smb/cifs.
[21:08] <avihay> on my network, samba is only slightly faster then ssh
[21:08] <bjrohan> ok
[21:09] <bjrohan> How can I remedy the whole key error message?
[21:09] <avihay> anyway, retry sshfs in dolphin
[21:09] <avihay> err sftp
[21:09] <bjrohan> so do sshfs or sftp?
[21:09] <avihay> sftp://
[21:10] <bjrohan> so do NOT install sshfs?
[21:10] <avihay> it depends if you only need to push files around, via the gui only, or if you need to mount the system properly
[21:10] <jmpiloq> what about fish?
[21:11] <avihay> I think it's deprecated by sftp
[21:11] <jmpiloq> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Files_transferred_over_shell_protocol
[21:11] <bjrohan> I am strictly using this so that I can backup my laptop to the external USB drive attached to the desktop machine located @ 192.168.0.2
[21:12] <lordievader> bjrohan: If it's a private network you might even use nfs, much faster on my own network than sshfs.
[21:13] <lordievader> bjrohan: But I'm just confusing you, answer avihay's question.
[21:13] <bjrohan> It is in my home. I have DSL which is a modem/router in one my desktop is hardwired, my laptop is wireless, and my wife has windoze that is wireless that I am not worried about
[21:15] <bjrohan> I have the network address for the laptop and desktop reserved so they never change
[21:15] <avihay> if you want to back up, you probably wanna automate it/script it. you can use scp to copy via ssh from the command line/script
[21:16] <bjrohan> Desktop is running Lubuntu with open SSH server and client. I have Nautilus installed on that machine, and it can access my laptop with no setup. My laptop has Kubuntu with Dolphin which I prefer, and as I said Nautilus on my laptop auto finds and access my desktop, Dolphin does not
[21:16] <jmpiloq> seems like you could use rsnyc for that
[21:16] <jmpiloq> rsync
[21:17] <avihay> without installing anything, you can use http://pingbin.com/2011/12/recursive-scp-file-copy/ for backing up from command line
[21:18] <bjrohan> Yeah, and now I am spinning around :-)
[21:18] <avihay> to use a gui to to transfer stuff, I use sftp in dolphin, works fine most times
[21:18] <bjrohan> I could also just plug my laptop into the USB drive everynight and do a direct backup
[21:19] <lordievader> bjrohan: Is probably even faster ;)
[21:19] <bjrohan> and where do I enter the SFTP info so that the USB drive is always visible when I open Dolphin? I can type it into the Network Places, but I don't find a way to make it stay there once I close the window that Network Places opens
[21:21] <avihay> if you want it permanent, in dolphin, go to network in the "places" selector
[21:21] <avihay> you should see a few icons, one of them should be a new folder icon with the text Add Network folder
[21:22] <bjrohan> I do that, but it never creates a folder it seems, just opens a new window, that once closed I have no access
[21:22] <avihay> it should offer you webdav ftp cifs/samba and ssh
[21:23] <avihay> humm, I see it in the remote:/ url
[21:23] <avihay> the place from where I picked to add network folder
[21:24] <avihay> did you have the create an icon for this folder option ticked?
[21:25] <bjrohan> Perhaps not. Dolphin hung on that operation so I am closing it out. Do I want to choose SSH or the FTP option when creating a new folder?
[21:29] <bjrohan> From the options choose and FTP connection or SSH when creating a new network folder?
[21:31] <bjrohan> BRB, no matter what I do Dolphin is unresponsive when trying to connect :-(
[21:31] <vertago1> As anyone here used apt-p2p any?
[21:32] <bjrohan> OKAY. I got in. I had to use SSH option, then use the fish option
[21:33] <bjrohan> BUT I have no new folder :-( It opened up a new window with the / directory of the desktop but no folder in the original window even though I checkmarked that box
[21:35] <bjrohan> Where should this folder icon be located?
[21:36] <bjrohan> Hello?
[21:38] <bjrohan> And this is where I have issues with Dolphin
[21:42] <bjrohan> Was it something I said?
[23:49] <IdleOne> !kdesvn
[23:50] <IdleOne> Someone know the proper link to replace that one in the factoid?
[23:51] <avihay> !kdegit