[00:17] My system sounds (error ding from KDE) are going to my HDMI sound card instead of the main sound card my speakers are plugged into. How do I switch it? [00:50] !netsplit [00:50] netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit === rafa is now known as Guest39239 [01:34] How do I make a symlink in a home folder to a usb drive so that I may access it via ssh on another computer? === LordOfTime is now known as TheLordOfTime === _Roey is now known as Roey === geowany__ is now known as Geowany [04:57] What is the difference between ssh fish and ftp when connecting to computers on a home network? [04:59] I have lubuntu with nautlius on a desktop, and Kubuntu on my laptop with Dolphin. I can connect the desktop to laptop with nautilus fairly easy, but with dolphin it is much more convluted, and as of now only via network which I can not get to stay connected. I want to use te external USB drive to back my laptop to [05:30] Anyone on that can help me with setting up Dolphin to connect to a remote computer effectively? [05:45] I need Dolphin help in a bad way, anyone? === freek is now known as Guest87796 [06:52] hi9 [06:52] hi === kubuntu is now known as Guest2987 === prophet is now known as Guest56027 === PasNox_ is now known as PasNox [08:16] crontab -e === och is now known as Guest15016 [10:11] Ubuntu rules :) [10:13] BaldR: This is Kubuntu, for Ubuntu see #ubuntu. [10:16] oki [10:29] Hi all [11:53] hi kworld! [11:53] this is a fresh install of the kubuntu 12.04 [11:55] there is one more big problem left: i cannot copy+paste e.g. from emacs or xterm into firefox dialog fields (e.g. pastebin). Please help me ... [12:08] Guest40904: how did you try to copy? Right mouse? Ctrl-Shift-C? [12:10] Guest40904: ah, xterm doesn't seem to allow copy-paste, why not use konsole instead? [12:21] I had a package manager crash, what is the command to restart the packet manager? [12:27] rork: In emacs i tied everything, marking with the mouse, should suffice, since i can paste in emacs for sure. In xterm (sage running) i just mark, since Control+C stops sage from working... Well, copy paste from konsole into pastebin.com works. But emacs to konsole does not work. This is odd! [12:29] rork: i need emacs -> console (sage interpreter, sort of python+math) since i cannot program in the console and i want to still have the code [12:30] what is this idea to have somehow two registers for copied stuff? one for x-application and the other one for the other ones? This drives me crazy, it is a good reason to switch to some other system for the next 5 years [12:31] (ubuntu unity already did this service for me, no unity on my computers!) [12:33] i will google still for this copy+paste problem, but at the end of the day there is a solution or something else instead of kubuntu installed here [12:43] nice chat room, it is dedicated to xeros quit policy === david is now known as Guest32246 [12:44] Guest40904, yeah I was about to call an op , this is becoming annoying === PasNox_ is now known as PasNox [12:45] ikonia , can you kicj this xeros guy pls he's flooding us [12:45] err kick [12:46] sure thing [12:46] BluesKaj: thanks, sorry I didn't notice earlier [12:47] thanks ikonia , much appreciated [12:47] thanks, too! [12:48] ikonia, one would think if it was unintentional that he would stop trying to connect after 50 tries :) [12:48] I suspect autojoin maybe the bad man here [12:49] he should still notice that , if he wants to chat [12:50] I suspect he'll notice a lot of channels have forwarded him to ##fix_your_connection [12:50] hopefully problem solved now. [12:50] I'm off [12:51] ok . later === Exposure is now known as Exposure_ === Exposure_ is now known as Exposure === azbarcea is now known as 4JTAAHMAE === kubuntu is now known as Guest66765 === david is now known as Guest7704 === xcrisx is now known as SE [14:27] hello guys, in kde 4.8, the network manager tray icon is a little different than the others (it has black a gray parts, while the others are only white/transparent) I don't know if this is from my Icon theme or from the app itself, but i'd like to change it, do you have any ideas how? === 4JTAAHMAE is now known as azbarcea [14:32] Nine_9, could be from your desktop theme setting [14:32] BluesKaj: any ideas on where the icons images are located? [14:35] i have a problem. i just updated to kde 4.9.2 and im missing some components like the update center. [14:35] it's probly not the icom images that's affecting the look , it may be the theme..icons are in systemsettings>application appearance>icons [14:35] Nine_9,^ [14:35] BluesKaj: thank you [14:36] mark___, run sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade [14:38] if by any chance could i do a clean install === shumski_away is now known as shumski [14:41] BluesKa: the command didn't work [14:43] could someone help? [14:45] i have a problem. i just updated to kde 4.9.2 and im missing some components like the update center. [14:45] what was the error mark___ [14:45] error for what? [14:45] mark___, run sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade [14:46] !paste | mark___ [14:46] mark___: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [14:47] it says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [14:48] ok, and what package did you want to install mark___ [14:49] i'm prettey much a noob when it comes to kde and kubuntu. all i want to do is do a clead install of kde 4.9.2 [14:49] *clean [14:51] anyone noticed that gwenview plugins are sorted in wrong submenus in kde4.9.2 / gwenview 2.9.1 ? [14:52] mark___: checkout the channel topic [14:52] where? [14:52] the tray icons are in /usr/share/kde4/apps/desktoptheme/default/icons/ in case anyone is intrested [14:53] mark___: just type /topic [14:53] hello everyone [15:10] i resently installed kde 4.9.2 and it completely messed up ad i want to do a clean install of kde 4.9.2. [15:12] help?! [15:13] uhh, messed up? how ? [15:14] a lot of apps and componets are missing [15:15] try sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop [15:15] have to go for dinner, cya === owner is now known as Guest86085 === Guest86085 is now known as RealOpty [15:56] what is the simplest command to force delete directory files? [15:57] what is the simplest command to force delete directory files? [15:57] patience, young padawan. [15:57] rm -r will recurse, rm -rf will recurse and not ask questions [15:58] it will stop at permissiosn it does not have, like files that belong to other users and you dont have write rights to [16:01] what i want specifically is to delete folders inside of a particular directory but not the main directory [16:12] hello, which download manager can i use under kubuntu? [16:12] Dexter_F: "cd Directory ; rm -rf * ; cd .. ; rmdir Directory" is safer. [16:12] lzaj, to download what [16:12] DarthFrog: huh? [16:13] heh [16:13] how? [16:13] Dexter_F: Then you're sure that you're only deleting the files you wish to delete. [16:14] DarthFrog: doesn't make sense to me. what would rm -rf do differently? [16:15] bazhang: regular links [16:15] Or use the -i switch when using rm. [16:15] Dexter_F: Nothing. As long as you (a) used the right directory name and (b) spelled it correctly. This I learned the hard way. :-) [16:15] bazhang: also i would like to be able to resume download when downloading mp4 from youtube [16:16] lzaj, there is command line utility called youtube-dl , or a firefox addon for that [16:16] bazhang: it can resume downloads? [16:17] lzaj, I dont know, the firefox addon can convert on the fly, though, from flv to more playable formats [16:19] bazhang: with youtube-dl " ERROR: unable to download video " [16:19] for link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3mhkYbznBk [16:20] youtube-dl has a resume option so it's a shame [16:23] bazhang: hm, it worked after -U update [16:24] ok [16:24] the -t switch should give it a proper name [16:24] ye thanks [16:24] np [16:27] hey guys, how can i change the altgr+prtscr+K shortcut back to the good old ctrl+alt_backspc? [16:28] or it's better to just get used to the new shortcut? [16:28] Nine_9: I *think* it's changeable in SystemSettings. not sure though. [16:28] in case it's becoming a kinda standart [16:29] DarthFrog: i couldn't find anything there [16:30] Nine_9: setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp [16:30] DarthFrog: you're right. It's in "Input Devices"-"Keyboard"-"Advanced" [16:30] ops [16:30] =/ [16:31] i was looking in the keyboard section [16:31] I thought this were configured in a xserver config file [16:31] anyway, thank you DarthFrog. [16:31] Hmm, I not that I've enabled it, too. :-) [16:32] i'm gonna try it right now :) [16:32] it works :) [16:33] good stuff [16:44] those icons effects are awesome, it's a pity though they doesn't work for some icons on the task manager (e.g: firefox). [16:45] however, it's great to have all the icons on the K menu colored the same. No other window manager has such feature afaik. [16:47] * BluesKaj muses ...well to each his own :) [16:49] I was a big fan of gnome until v3, but i hated unity and gnome3, and i thought it wouldn't make sense to stick with gnome2, tried xfce and didn't like also, and as I had some previous experience with kde4, i decided to give it a try and i'm simply loving it. [16:49] Nine_9: There is still gnome-classic. [16:50] lordievader: that's gnome 2 afaik [16:50] Nine_9: That is why I said it. [16:53] but i said that i think it doesn't make sense to use such an ancient wm nowadays [16:53] :) [16:54] Nine_9: Yeah, I reminded myself again that I only read things half... sorry. [17:20] hello ppl, can anyone say me how to put any folder in a button or menu in fvwm? thnx [17:21] In fvwm??? Why on Earth are you running such an ancient window manager? [17:22] I doubt anyone running Kubuntu would still be using fvwm. Afterall, the point of Kubuntu is to run KDE SC. [17:23] im on crystal [17:23] mime: However there is a #fvwm channel. That would be the appropriate place to ask for the help you want. [17:23] tynx [17:24] cya ppl [17:25] google.com [17:39] mime: this is #fvwm, try #fvwm-crystal (two different window managers) [17:39] only 1 person [17:45] mime: When you venture into obscurity, you're not likely to find too many other people there who can guide you. :-) === warren is now known as Guest94345 [18:15] i promised in the morning that i will wipe out the kubuntu from all hd's if there is no workaround to the copy+paste problems :: it seems that there are now *two* clipboards, one for console, one for x-applications! [18:15] well, i found a workaround, i use xclipboard [18:15] but this is that annoying, simply impossible to accept this === Vito_away is now known as Vito [18:16] some years ago there was no problem to copy+paste from firefox, xterm, emacs, xemacs, vim ... in each other [18:16] now, we revolutionary have the chance to use xclipboard in between [18:17] whose idiocratic idea is this? [18:18] if some live linux distro does not have this nice feature, i will skip in a second [18:19] can somebody here tell me why is it impossible to copy+paste from emacs or xterm into firefox (e.g. pastebin.com paste field) ? [18:19] it isn't. === owner is now known as Guest56242 [18:20] try the middle button [18:21] one annoying thing is if you copy something from kate for instance [18:21] and then you close kate [18:21] you can't paste it anymore :( [18:21] lzaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1277420/ [18:21] From a yakuake session. [18:22] Mind you, the pastebin session was in rekonq. [18:23] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1277424/ from pasting in Firefox. [18:23] DarthFrog: well i've just tried: open kate : write something, copy it, close kate; then try to paste it here [18:23] OK, I'll give it a shot [18:24] it looks like you can only paste from applications that are still open [18:26] Nope. Works fine. Opened a text file in Kate. Copied it, closed Kate, pasted into pastebin on Firefox. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1277430/ [18:44] I suppose I've been quite tolerant enough of AMD's drivers [18:53] Guest40904: you can try using klipper and pick synchronize contents of clipboard and selection === mparillo is now known as LuDiX_BoSSy_OnE [18:54] couniamanmanw === yofel_ is now known as yofel [19:14] avihay: thanks for the answer, i realize now that the story is a well known story. Well, although i distroyed xclipboard, i get some problems to run klipper, and of course i cannot paste here the error mess from the xterm! Nice [19:15] I just installed kubuntu quantal along with proprietary nvidia drivers. Now the effects no longer work, but kde says they are on. Any suggestions? [19:18] lzaj: i tried everything, Shift+insert, middle button, Control+V, Shift+Control+V and so on. xclipboard was a trial and error possibility to still have something work. Of course, i had to do the right "copy" from emacs, mark and Meta+w, never had to do it before, then paste with shift+Insert in the xclipboard, since Controv+V made the paste uncontrolled. (I could not understand what i was pasting.) === Vito is now known as Vito_away [19:19] darthfrog: i never use kate and konsole, where things seem to work, i use emacs to edit code (sagemath) since i need the python-mode, then i run the code in the xterm interpreter, since i can run xterm -bg tan4 -fg snow, (and many other colors), then i want to paste the result on a math page (in firefox) [19:20] why there are *two clipboards on this one linux? [19:21] Klipper is the only one I use. [19:21] jacksonje, try the nvidia-current driver for 12.10 , it runs better than the proprietary [19:22] jacksonje, that what I'm using for the geforce 8400GS [19:22] nvidia-current is what I'm using [19:23] which is the proprietary driver [19:25] jacksonje, odd . mine lists simply as nvidia_current in jockey/additional drivers [19:26] DarthFrog: ok, i tried klipper, get the following message: Klipper is already running! Check it in the system tray in the panel. QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave. [19:26] DarthFrog: why do i need to use a klipper? [19:26] nvidia current is proprietary, nouveau is open source [19:27] jacksonje, what does additional drivers list your active driver as? [19:28] nvidia-current [19:28] OpenGL in desktop effects advanced [19:28] ? [19:28] yes [19:29] hmm, says this driver is activated but not currently in use [19:29] Qt graphics is ? [19:29] in jockey [19:29] native [19:30] any errors with desktop effects enabled ? [19:30] nope [19:30] they just don't show any effects [19:30] they are listed as on, but there is no transparency, or present windows or anything [19:35] Guest40904: well, on my machine, I mark some text in xterm, go to any other program and middle click and the text pastes [19:35] jacksonje, try raster instead of native [19:35] includeing in xterm itself [19:36] I can also mark text in any other program and paste in xterm by middle click [19:37] why would I want to shift rendering burden to the CPU instead of the GPU? [19:37] what does xterm -bg tan4 -fg snow do? I get a brown xterm [19:41] Guest40904: ? [20:34] ahh so the problem was using the kde system settings to configure the display properties, doing that broke the effects on my nvidia [20:56] can anyone give me insight to using ssh and Dolphin? I am having issues [20:57] bjrohan: What do you want to do exactly? [20:59] I want to establish a connection to my desktop's root folde so that I can access an external USB drive for backups [20:59] bjrohan: Ok, so you want to mount the external USB drive through ssh? [20:59] It seems when I try I can only access the root when I go to the Network folder and connect that way, however, that connection doesn't remain viable once I close the new window it opens [21:00] Yes [21:00] On that computer is is mounted in /media [21:01] bjrohan: You probably want to use sshfs, for this you need to install (on the client) the package "sshfs". [21:02] If I install Nautilus, it automatically finds and connect to that computer without me doing anything, however in Dolphin it seems to be a nightmare [21:02] bjrohan: After you have done that, you need to create a folder where you want to mount the folder. [21:02] Why, what does that do? i am looking to learn not just do things to get them to work [21:03] bjrohan: And then as a final step run the command: sshfs -o idmap=user user@: [21:03] Altough I am very grateful for any help [21:04] bjrohan: The package is needed to be able to mount the directory through ssh. [21:04] bjrohan: sftp://username@serveradress/media [21:06] but it uses a crappy KIO slave that doesn't do streaming, so it's useful only to push files around. if you want something serious, sshfs [21:06] Or something insecure but very fast: nfs :D [21:06] avihay when I do that I get an error that the key does not match, blah blah blah. If i delete the /.ssh file that goes away but then a message box appears if I want to connect (3x) I click yes, and there is no connection made [21:07] bjrohan: that error message is the same you should get if you try to ssh there [21:07] dhcp and reassigning ip addresses and all [21:07] Let me askyou guys this, would setting up a Samba server be better? [21:08] bjrohan: I'd stick with sshfs, for as far as I know it is safer than smb/cifs. [21:08] on my network, samba is only slightly faster then ssh [21:08] ok [21:09] How can I remedy the whole key error message? [21:09] anyway, retry sshfs in dolphin [21:09] err sftp [21:09] so do sshfs or sftp? [21:09] sftp:// [21:10] so do NOT install sshfs? [21:10] it depends if you only need to push files around, via the gui only, or if you need to mount the system properly [21:10] what about fish? [21:11] I think it's deprecated by sftp [21:11] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Files_transferred_over_shell_protocol [21:11] I am strictly using this so that I can backup my laptop to the external USB drive attached to the desktop machine located @ 192.168.0.2 [21:12] bjrohan: If it's a private network you might even use nfs, much faster on my own network than sshfs. [21:13] bjrohan: But I'm just confusing you, answer avihay's question. [21:13] It is in my home. I have DSL which is a modem/router in one my desktop is hardwired, my laptop is wireless, and my wife has windoze that is wireless that I am not worried about === Belial is now known as Guest73600 [21:15] I have the network address for the laptop and desktop reserved so they never change [21:15] if you want to back up, you probably wanna automate it/script it. you can use scp to copy via ssh from the command line/script [21:16] Desktop is running Lubuntu with open SSH server and client. I have Nautilus installed on that machine, and it can access my laptop with no setup. My laptop has Kubuntu with Dolphin which I prefer, and as I said Nautilus on my laptop auto finds and access my desktop, Dolphin does not [21:16] seems like you could use rsnyc for that [21:16] rsync [21:17] without installing anything, you can use http://pingbin.com/2011/12/recursive-scp-file-copy/ for backing up from command line [21:18] Yeah, and now I am spinning around :-) [21:18] to use a gui to to transfer stuff, I use sftp in dolphin, works fine most times [21:18] I could also just plug my laptop into the USB drive everynight and do a direct backup [21:19] bjrohan: Is probably even faster ;) [21:19] and where do I enter the SFTP info so that the USB drive is always visible when I open Dolphin? I can type it into the Network Places, but I don't find a way to make it stay there once I close the window that Network Places opens [21:21] if you want it permanent, in dolphin, go to network in the "places" selector [21:21] you should see a few icons, one of them should be a new folder icon with the text Add Network folder [21:22] I do that, but it never creates a folder it seems, just opens a new window, that once closed I have no access [21:22] it should offer you webdav ftp cifs/samba and ssh [21:23] humm, I see it in the remote:/ url [21:23] the place from where I picked to add network folder [21:24] did you have the create an icon for this folder option ticked? [21:25] Perhaps not. Dolphin hung on that operation so I am closing it out. Do I want to choose SSH or the FTP option when creating a new folder? [21:29] From the options choose and FTP connection or SSH when creating a new network folder? [21:31] BRB, no matter what I do Dolphin is unresponsive when trying to connect :-( [21:31] As anyone here used apt-p2p any? [21:32] OKAY. I got in. I had to use SSH option, then use the fish option [21:33] BUT I have no new folder :-( It opened up a new window with the / directory of the desktop but no folder in the original window even though I checkmarked that box [21:35] Where should this folder icon be located? [21:36] Hello? [21:38] And this is where I have issues with Dolphin [21:42] Was it something I said? === Vito_away is now known as Vito === Guest73600 is now known as Belial` === kubuntu is now known as Guest51948 === david is now known as Guest30086 === Vito is now known as Vito_away === david is now known as Guest57332 [23:49] !kdesvn [23:49] See http://developer.kde.org/source/anonsvn.html for details on accessing KDE's code via SVN [23:50] Someone know the proper link to replace that one in the factoid? [23:51] !kdegit === kubuntu is now known as Guest56559