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Recusantchirp chirp..09:40
RecusantHiya, i'm new to Ubuntu and i'm finding connecting to my NAS to be troublesome. I found a web page that is probably out of date because it's not exactly right, but i figued it out from it. My god it was more complicated than i thought it would be. Is it easier than this page suggests? http://www.scribbleit.co.uk/blog/how-to-get-ubuntu-10-10-to-access-network-attached-storage-devices/09:43
geirhaRecusant: That's about as easy as it is in windows, isn't it?10:11
geirhaIf you intend for your NAS to be on 24/7, and you're connecting to it from a stationary computer, I'd consider using nfs instead10:14
RecusantHi geirha, in Windows all i do is go to 'network' and click on the share i want. In Ubuntu, the shares don't appear. :(10:16
Recusantthe NAS isn't 24/7.10:17
Recusantvarious computers connect to it, laptops, PCs, Media Players etc.10:17
geirhahm. Mine shows up with all the shares when I browse the network10:18
Recusanthmm.. i'm doing this on a wireless netbook - WUBI install as an experiment. I tried it with a hard wired PC earlier - it wouldn't see the NAS either. I have a vague recollection of using Mint Live (USB) on my main PC, and i could access the NAS as easily as you say. I wonder what the trick is.10:21
geirhaThis netbook is seeing it over the wireless connection10:22
RecusantDid you do any configuration to get it there, or you just installed it and fired it up and viola, your NAS was visible in your network drives?10:23
geirhapretty much10:25
geirhayou are able to connect directly to it though? list its shares if you have the ip?10:28
Recusantgood question. I'll try that after WinXP finishes it's shutdown updates. Gotta love Windows, eh? ;)10:29
geirhaDo you know what domain/workgroup the nas is using?10:29
Recusanton a side note, are you using Ubuntu or Xubuntu on your netbook? This one i have is from 2009 - so pretty old.10:30
Recusant..not old by computer standards, but netbooks aren't exactly beefy.10:30
geirhaUbuntu 12.04 and it was probably manufactured around 201010:30
Recusantoh HAHAHHA, wth!10:33
Recusanti just rebooted, didn't change anything (well, removed a HOSTS file entry for another experiment/issue re seeing windows shares) and now the NAS APPEARS!10:34
* Recusant confused.10:34
Recusantthe hosts entry i made was after i wasn't seeing the NAS though, so i don't have a clue what was going on there.10:34
Recusantmy other, experiment PC, also had this same problem earlier.10:35
RecusantThat's for listening geirha :)10:35
Recusantwhile you're here - what might be an equivelent to Windows "end task" in the task manager?10:36
geirhaI generally use the command line for that, but there should be a gui similar to task manager10:37
Recusanti was so excited to see the NAS, i clicked on it to enter and accidently hit 'ok' before entering credentials - it's sitting there and i can't cancel it :(10:38
geirhaSystem Monitor10:38
geirhaAh yeah, that takes a while to fail. (Same problem in windows though)10:39
Recusanti figure it'll be quicker to reboot :P10:48
Recusantthis is fun, maybe one day i'll be able to actually use Ubuntu and not spend all day just trying to figure out it's quirks.10:49
RecusantMind you, i'm not completely sold on Unity. For actual productive work, i prefer Cinnamon i think (not that i've used it much at all.10:50
geirhaWell, it's just the default desktop environment. You can install and use any DE/WM you like10:51
RecusantYeah, i saw that i could install Cinnamon, which is why i decided to try to learn Ubuntu, rather than Mint. I build computers for charity, and XP is both too old and i don't have many licenses, so i looked at Linux. I've only just started.10:53
geirhakubuntu, lubuntu and xubuntu are also ubuntu btw. The only difference is that they have different default desktop environments10:55
Recusanti've installed Edubuntu on an old laptop, but i didn't really see the point of it. I kind of expected easy access to the different age-group tools/games. But nothing was categorised that i could see so i'd have to spend hours going through picking stuff out. Maybe if i'd chosen the 'gnome' desktop in the install options.10:58
RecusantI was going to put Xubuntu on the netbook, because i've read that it's lighter on resources.10:59
RecusantThanks for your info/help this evening. I'm off to bed (2200hrs) Nice to know i can come here.10:59
carolpHi there, back again. tonight I am working on another laptop with win7 collapsed!!15:02
carolpProblem is I am trying to instal ubuntu 12 desktop as I did last night on another laptop, only this time UBUNTU has a non-moving process "ntfsresize -f -i /dev/sda2"15:03
carolpon the hp laptop yesterday, I was offered the option to manually partition, but it has gone srtaight into auto partition on this tosh15:04
carolpBy the way how can I find a chat room for fixing Furbys? Multitaskng here ...15:06
carolpsorry, that was offtoppic  whoops!15:07
duanedesignhello carolp15:08
carolphi duane15:08
duanedesigncarolp: what version of Windows did you have?15:11
duanedesignoops15:11
duanedesignsorry you said Win715:11
duanedesignI am not immediately sure what the problem might be. I am poking around in some bugs to see if I can find anything15:12
carolpit's rubbish, but everybody I know still buys it15:12
carolpmight be some laptops need a switch to find the option, but which and how?15:13
carolpOn the hp last night I found that all of the disk was partitioneed -4 - for win7. This non-moving - can't say stopped! - process may be having the same hard time I had last night finding sufficient space ...15:15
carolpI have tried running sudo partman outside the instal but can't write the files and logs required on the disk!15:16
carolponto the disc15:17
duanedesigncarolp:  On the Live CD  you can go to System > Administration > GParted and resize your partitions before running the installer15:22
duanedesignactually that is probably a little different in Ubuntu 12.0415:23
duanedesigngparted could probably be found by opening the Dash (by clicking the Ubuntu icon in the top left) and typing in gparted15:24
wilee-nileewindows 7 has its own partitioner as well.15:25
duanedesigntrue. If you use the Windows partitioner be sure to defrag the disk first, The linux partitioners dont care about this step.15:26
carolpcan't start win7 which is why I am installing ubuntu so that my mate can at least get at the precious stuff. Being a windozer I have to make it as simple as possible for them using ubuntu :D15:30
carolpI have quit the installation, but ntfsresize is still "running" - should I kill it?15:32
geirhacarolp: how much did you resize it?15:34
carolpit went straight into auto partition - no manually partitioning offered15:34
carolpI've forgotten - the time , column 7 in ps -edf measures what? because it has gon eup from O to OO:OO:O115:38
duanedesignTime15:43
carolpas in processng time or tme elapsed? If processing time it might still be doing something?15:43
duanedesignThe cumulative execution time for the process15:44
duanedesignso the processing time15:44
duanedesignI hate to tell someone to quit the installer...but if it is stuck you might not have any other option15:45
carolpalready quit the installer, now watching ntfsresize15:46
carolpit's been on that one for a long time - is it safe to kill it?15:46
duanedesignthat is what I would probably do.15:48
carolpBeen tracking through the pids and found it is resizing after "activate-dmraid" - is this perhaps significant?15:52
carolpok ntfsresize killed, gparted now scanning - I'll keep you posted? thanks for your help so far.15:59
duanedesigndont think that is significant unless you have a RAID setup15:59
carolpI don't15:59
duanedesignkk15:59
ackMy computer screen is black after loading Ubuntu, need a touch to see ?   can anyone help17:01
thewrathhey all17:02
ackI have the black screen of death17:05
carolpntfsresize --info --force --no-progress-bar /dev/sda2   is what gparted is hung on, "Houston, we have a problem"17:05
wilee-nileeack, Loaded means installed?17:07
thewrathack it could be kernel panic17:59
thewrathhow hard is it to set up a mail server on Ubuntu?17:59
thewrathI have a domain name but want to verify17:59
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carolpso it finally sorted itself - there is some kind of problem with the windows partition /dev/sda2 which stalls ntfsresize during both instal and gparted. I have manually created / and /boot and I shall keep you posted as I proceed19:43
thewrathexit21:17
t4nk803What is a good book or online tutorial that I can get to become comfortable experimenting with my linux machine?21:42

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