Recusant | chirp chirp.. | 09:40 |
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Recusant | Hiya, i'm new to Ubuntu and i'm finding connecting to my NAS to be troublesome. I found a web page that is probably out of date because it's not exactly right, but i figued it out from it. My god it was more complicated than i thought it would be. Is it easier than this page suggests? http://www.scribbleit.co.uk/blog/how-to-get-ubuntu-10-10-to-access-network-attached-storage-devices/ | 09:43 |
geirha | Recusant: That's about as easy as it is in windows, isn't it? | 10:11 |
geirha | If you intend for your NAS to be on 24/7, and you're connecting to it from a stationary computer, I'd consider using nfs instead | 10:14 |
Recusant | Hi geirha, in Windows all i do is go to 'network' and click on the share i want. In Ubuntu, the shares don't appear. :( | 10:16 |
Recusant | the NAS isn't 24/7. | 10:17 |
Recusant | various computers connect to it, laptops, PCs, Media Players etc. | 10:17 |
geirha | hm. Mine shows up with all the shares when I browse the network | 10:18 |
Recusant | hmm.. i'm doing this on a wireless netbook - WUBI install as an experiment. I tried it with a hard wired PC earlier - it wouldn't see the NAS either. I have a vague recollection of using Mint Live (USB) on my main PC, and i could access the NAS as easily as you say. I wonder what the trick is. | 10:21 |
geirha | This netbook is seeing it over the wireless connection | 10:22 |
Recusant | Did you do any configuration to get it there, or you just installed it and fired it up and viola, your NAS was visible in your network drives? | 10:23 |
geirha | pretty much | 10:25 |
geirha | you are able to connect directly to it though? list its shares if you have the ip? | 10:28 |
Recusant | good question. I'll try that after WinXP finishes it's shutdown updates. Gotta love Windows, eh? ;) | 10:29 |
geirha | Do you know what domain/workgroup the nas is using? | 10:29 |
Recusant | on a side note, are you using Ubuntu or Xubuntu on your netbook? This one i have is from 2009 - so pretty old. | 10:30 |
Recusant | ..not old by computer standards, but netbooks aren't exactly beefy. | 10:30 |
geirha | Ubuntu 12.04 and it was probably manufactured around 2010 | 10:30 |
Recusant | oh HAHAHHA, wth! | 10:33 |
Recusant | i just rebooted, didn't change anything (well, removed a HOSTS file entry for another experiment/issue re seeing windows shares) and now the NAS APPEARS! | 10:34 |
* Recusant confused. | 10:34 | |
Recusant | the hosts entry i made was after i wasn't seeing the NAS though, so i don't have a clue what was going on there. | 10:34 |
Recusant | my other, experiment PC, also had this same problem earlier. | 10:35 |
Recusant | That's for listening geirha :) | 10:35 |
Recusant | while you're here - what might be an equivelent to Windows "end task" in the task manager? | 10:36 |
geirha | I generally use the command line for that, but there should be a gui similar to task manager | 10:37 |
Recusant | i was so excited to see the NAS, i clicked on it to enter and accidently hit 'ok' before entering credentials - it's sitting there and i can't cancel it :( | 10:38 |
geirha | System Monitor | 10:38 |
geirha | Ah yeah, that takes a while to fail. (Same problem in windows though) | 10:39 |
Recusant | i figure it'll be quicker to reboot :P | 10:48 |
Recusant | this is fun, maybe one day i'll be able to actually use Ubuntu and not spend all day just trying to figure out it's quirks. | 10:49 |
Recusant | Mind you, i'm not completely sold on Unity. For actual productive work, i prefer Cinnamon i think (not that i've used it much at all. | 10:50 |
geirha | Well, it's just the default desktop environment. You can install and use any DE/WM you like | 10:51 |
Recusant | Yeah, i saw that i could install Cinnamon, which is why i decided to try to learn Ubuntu, rather than Mint. I build computers for charity, and XP is both too old and i don't have many licenses, so i looked at Linux. I've only just started. | 10:53 |
geirha | kubuntu, lubuntu and xubuntu are also ubuntu btw. The only difference is that they have different default desktop environments | 10:55 |
Recusant | i've installed Edubuntu on an old laptop, but i didn't really see the point of it. I kind of expected easy access to the different age-group tools/games. But nothing was categorised that i could see so i'd have to spend hours going through picking stuff out. Maybe if i'd chosen the 'gnome' desktop in the install options. | 10:58 |
Recusant | I was going to put Xubuntu on the netbook, because i've read that it's lighter on resources. | 10:59 |
Recusant | Thanks for your info/help this evening. I'm off to bed (2200hrs) Nice to know i can come here. | 10:59 |
carolp | Hi there, back again. tonight I am working on another laptop with win7 collapsed!! | 15:02 |
carolp | Problem is I am trying to instal ubuntu 12 desktop as I did last night on another laptop, only this time UBUNTU has a non-moving process "ntfsresize -f -i /dev/sda2" | 15:03 |
carolp | on the hp laptop yesterday, I was offered the option to manually partition, but it has gone srtaight into auto partition on this tosh | 15:04 |
carolp | By the way how can I find a chat room for fixing Furbys? Multitaskng here ... | 15:06 |
carolp | sorry, that was offtoppic whoops! | 15:07 |
duanedesign | hello carolp | 15:08 |
carolp | hi duane | 15:08 |
duanedesign | carolp: what version of Windows did you have? | 15:11 |
duanedesign | oops | 15:11 |
duanedesign | sorry you said Win7 | 15:11 |
duanedesign | I am not immediately sure what the problem might be. I am poking around in some bugs to see if I can find anything | 15:12 |
carolp | it's rubbish, but everybody I know still buys it | 15:12 |
carolp | might be some laptops need a switch to find the option, but which and how? | 15:13 |
carolp | On the hp last night I found that all of the disk was partitioneed -4 - for win7. This non-moving - can't say stopped! - process may be having the same hard time I had last night finding sufficient space ... | 15:15 |
carolp | I have tried running sudo partman outside the instal but can't write the files and logs required on the disk! | 15:16 |
carolp | onto the disc | 15:17 |
duanedesign | carolp: On the Live CD you can go to System > Administration > GParted and resize your partitions before running the installer | 15:22 |
duanedesign | actually that is probably a little different in Ubuntu 12.04 | 15:23 |
duanedesign | gparted could probably be found by opening the Dash (by clicking the Ubuntu icon in the top left) and typing in gparted | 15:24 |
wilee-nilee | windows 7 has its own partitioner as well. | 15:25 |
duanedesign | true. If you use the Windows partitioner be sure to defrag the disk first, The linux partitioners dont care about this step. | 15:26 |
carolp | can't start win7 which is why I am installing ubuntu so that my mate can at least get at the precious stuff. Being a windozer I have to make it as simple as possible for them using ubuntu :D | 15:30 |
carolp | I have quit the installation, but ntfsresize is still "running" - should I kill it? | 15:32 |
geirha | carolp: how much did you resize it? | 15:34 |
carolp | it went straight into auto partition - no manually partitioning offered | 15:34 |
carolp | I've forgotten - the time , column 7 in ps -edf measures what? because it has gon eup from O to OO:OO:O1 | 15:38 |
duanedesign | Time | 15:43 |
carolp | as in processng time or tme elapsed? If processing time it might still be doing something? | 15:43 |
duanedesign | The cumulative execution time for the process | 15:44 |
duanedesign | so the processing time | 15:44 |
duanedesign | I hate to tell someone to quit the installer...but if it is stuck you might not have any other option | 15:45 |
carolp | already quit the installer, now watching ntfsresize | 15:46 |
carolp | it's been on that one for a long time - is it safe to kill it? | 15:46 |
duanedesign | that is what I would probably do. | 15:48 |
carolp | Been tracking through the pids and found it is resizing after "activate-dmraid" - is this perhaps significant? | 15:52 |
carolp | ok ntfsresize killed, gparted now scanning - I'll keep you posted? thanks for your help so far. | 15:59 |
duanedesign | dont think that is significant unless you have a RAID setup | 15:59 |
carolp | I don't | 15:59 |
duanedesign | kk | 15:59 |
ack | My computer screen is black after loading Ubuntu, need a touch to see ? can anyone help | 17:01 |
thewrath | hey all | 17:02 |
ack | I have the black screen of death | 17:05 |
carolp | ntfsresize --info --force --no-progress-bar /dev/sda2 is what gparted is hung on, "Houston, we have a problem" | 17:05 |
wilee-nilee | ack, Loaded means installed? | 17:07 |
thewrath | ack it could be kernel panic | 17:59 |
thewrath | how hard is it to set up a mail server on Ubuntu? | 17:59 |
thewrath | I have a domain name but want to verify | 17:59 |
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carolp | so it finally sorted itself - there is some kind of problem with the windows partition /dev/sda2 which stalls ntfsresize during both instal and gparted. I have manually created / and /boot and I shall keep you posted as I proceed | 19:43 |
thewrath | exit | 21:17 |
t4nk803 | What is a good book or online tutorial that I can get to become comfortable experimenting with my linux machine? | 21:42 |
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