[09:40] chirp chirp.. [09:43] Hiya, i'm new to Ubuntu and i'm finding connecting to my NAS to be troublesome. I found a web page that is probably out of date because it's not exactly right, but i figued it out from it. My god it was more complicated than i thought it would be. Is it easier than this page suggests? http://www.scribbleit.co.uk/blog/how-to-get-ubuntu-10-10-to-access-network-attached-storage-devices/ [10:11] Recusant: That's about as easy as it is in windows, isn't it? [10:14] If you intend for your NAS to be on 24/7, and you're connecting to it from a stationary computer, I'd consider using nfs instead [10:16] Hi geirha, in Windows all i do is go to 'network' and click on the share i want. In Ubuntu, the shares don't appear. :( [10:17] the NAS isn't 24/7. [10:17] various computers connect to it, laptops, PCs, Media Players etc. [10:18] hm. Mine shows up with all the shares when I browse the network [10:21] hmm.. i'm doing this on a wireless netbook - WUBI install as an experiment. I tried it with a hard wired PC earlier - it wouldn't see the NAS either. I have a vague recollection of using Mint Live (USB) on my main PC, and i could access the NAS as easily as you say. I wonder what the trick is. [10:22] This netbook is seeing it over the wireless connection [10:23] Did you do any configuration to get it there, or you just installed it and fired it up and viola, your NAS was visible in your network drives? [10:25] pretty much [10:28] you are able to connect directly to it though? list its shares if you have the ip? [10:29] good question. I'll try that after WinXP finishes it's shutdown updates. Gotta love Windows, eh? ;) [10:29] Do you know what domain/workgroup the nas is using? [10:30] on a side note, are you using Ubuntu or Xubuntu on your netbook? This one i have is from 2009 - so pretty old. [10:30] ..not old by computer standards, but netbooks aren't exactly beefy. [10:30] Ubuntu 12.04 and it was probably manufactured around 2010 [10:33] oh HAHAHHA, wth! [10:34] i just rebooted, didn't change anything (well, removed a HOSTS file entry for another experiment/issue re seeing windows shares) and now the NAS APPEARS! [10:34] * Recusant confused. [10:34] the hosts entry i made was after i wasn't seeing the NAS though, so i don't have a clue what was going on there. [10:35] my other, experiment PC, also had this same problem earlier. [10:35] That's for listening geirha :) [10:36] while you're here - what might be an equivelent to Windows "end task" in the task manager? [10:37] I generally use the command line for that, but there should be a gui similar to task manager [10:38] i was so excited to see the NAS, i clicked on it to enter and accidently hit 'ok' before entering credentials - it's sitting there and i can't cancel it :( [10:38] System Monitor [10:39] Ah yeah, that takes a while to fail. (Same problem in windows though) [10:48] i figure it'll be quicker to reboot :P [10:49] this is fun, maybe one day i'll be able to actually use Ubuntu and not spend all day just trying to figure out it's quirks. [10:50] Mind you, i'm not completely sold on Unity. For actual productive work, i prefer Cinnamon i think (not that i've used it much at all. [10:51] Well, it's just the default desktop environment. You can install and use any DE/WM you like [10:53] Yeah, i saw that i could install Cinnamon, which is why i decided to try to learn Ubuntu, rather than Mint. I build computers for charity, and XP is both too old and i don't have many licenses, so i looked at Linux. I've only just started. [10:55] kubuntu, lubuntu and xubuntu are also ubuntu btw. The only difference is that they have different default desktop environments [10:58] i've installed Edubuntu on an old laptop, but i didn't really see the point of it. I kind of expected easy access to the different age-group tools/games. But nothing was categorised that i could see so i'd have to spend hours going through picking stuff out. Maybe if i'd chosen the 'gnome' desktop in the install options. [10:59] I was going to put Xubuntu on the netbook, because i've read that it's lighter on resources. [10:59] Thanks for your info/help this evening. I'm off to bed (2200hrs) Nice to know i can come here. [15:02] Hi there, back again. tonight I am working on another laptop with win7 collapsed!! [15:03] Problem is I am trying to instal ubuntu 12 desktop as I did last night on another laptop, only this time UBUNTU has a non-moving process "ntfsresize -f -i /dev/sda2" [15:04] on the hp laptop yesterday, I was offered the option to manually partition, but it has gone srtaight into auto partition on this tosh [15:06] By the way how can I find a chat room for fixing Furbys? Multitaskng here ... [15:07] sorry, that was offtoppic whoops! [15:08] hello carolp [15:08] hi duane [15:11] carolp: what version of Windows did you have? [15:11] oops [15:11] sorry you said Win7 [15:12] I am not immediately sure what the problem might be. I am poking around in some bugs to see if I can find anything [15:12] it's rubbish, but everybody I know still buys it [15:13] might be some laptops need a switch to find the option, but which and how? [15:15] On the hp last night I found that all of the disk was partitioneed -4 - for win7. This non-moving - can't say stopped! - process may be having the same hard time I had last night finding sufficient space ... [15:16] I have tried running sudo partman outside the instal but can't write the files and logs required on the disk! [15:17] onto the disc [15:22] carolp: On the Live CD you can go to System > Administration > GParted and resize your partitions before running the installer [15:23] actually that is probably a little different in Ubuntu 12.04 [15:24] gparted could probably be found by opening the Dash (by clicking the Ubuntu icon in the top left) and typing in gparted [15:25] windows 7 has its own partitioner as well. [15:26] true. If you use the Windows partitioner be sure to defrag the disk first, The linux partitioners dont care about this step. [15:30] can't start win7 which is why I am installing ubuntu so that my mate can at least get at the precious stuff. Being a windozer I have to make it as simple as possible for them using ubuntu :D [15:32] I have quit the installation, but ntfsresize is still "running" - should I kill it? [15:34] carolp: how much did you resize it? [15:34] it went straight into auto partition - no manually partitioning offered [15:38] I've forgotten - the time , column 7 in ps -edf measures what? because it has gon eup from O to OO:OO:O1 [15:43] Time [15:43] as in processng time or tme elapsed? If processing time it might still be doing something? [15:44] The cumulative execution time for the process [15:44] so the processing time [15:45] I hate to tell someone to quit the installer...but if it is stuck you might not have any other option [15:46] already quit the installer, now watching ntfsresize [15:46] it's been on that one for a long time - is it safe to kill it? [15:48] that is what I would probably do. [15:52] Been tracking through the pids and found it is resizing after "activate-dmraid" - is this perhaps significant? [15:59] ok ntfsresize killed, gparted now scanning - I'll keep you posted? thanks for your help so far. [15:59] dont think that is significant unless you have a RAID setup [15:59] I don't [15:59] kk [17:01] My computer screen is black after loading Ubuntu, need a touch to see ? can anyone help [17:02] hey all [17:05] I have the black screen of death [17:05] ntfsresize --info --force --no-progress-bar /dev/sda2 is what gparted is hung on, "Houston, we have a problem" [17:07] ack, Loaded means installed? [17:59] ack it could be kernel panic [17:59] how hard is it to set up a mail server on Ubuntu? [17:59] I have a domain name but want to verify === yofel_ is now known as yofel [19:43] so it finally sorted itself - there is some kind of problem with the windows partition /dev/sda2 which stalls ntfsresize during both instal and gparted. I have manually created / and /boot and I shall keep you posted as I proceed [21:17] exit [21:42] What is a good book or online tutorial that I can get to become comfortable experimenting with my linux machine?