[05:28] <Noskcaj> can anyone testing kubuntu(especially in NSW) keep an eye out for these two bugs 1066225 and 1066223
[05:30] <Noskcaj> Why does testdrive show ubuntu dvd even though its been cancelled
[05:31] <Noskcaj> i think
[05:55] <Noskcaj> is it a bug thhat ubuntu still gives the option to encript your home folder after you have encripted the whole drive?
[06:31] <Noskcaj> *that
[12:50] <njin> hallo just reproduced bug 1065034 (or at least a similar error in syslog) in ubiquity 2.12.11 where it has to be fixed, do you suggest to reopen the report ?
[14:25] <skaet> plars, jibel, psivaa - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1066173 <- has anyone else seen this?
[14:59] <jibel> Good morning skaet!
[14:59] <jibel> how are you?
[14:59] <skaet> good morning jibel.   :)
[14:59] <skaet> bien.   ca va?
[15:01] <jibel> skaet, I'm pretty good thanks. Heavy rain this afternoon, perfect weather for some iso testing :)
[15:01] <silverarrow> hi
[15:01] <jibel> skaet, So, regarding 1066173 I confirm grub goes to rescue mode when the external drive is unplugged
[15:02] <silverarrow> nothing much here, but clear skies
[15:02] <jibel> now I don't know what's the expected behavior
[15:02] <skaet> glad to hear there's rain.  jibel  - welcoming your testing.  :)
[15:03] <skaet> thanks for confirming.    Not sure on this one either.
[15:04] <skaet> possibly w?
[15:04] <jibel> I'll add a comment on the report
[15:04] <skaet> possibly worth asking in the #ubuntu-installer channel and see if someone there has some thoughts?
[15:05]  * skaet got trackpad glitch when hitting return on prior post :P
[15:05] <skaet> thanks jibel.
[15:05] <jibel> skaet, yw :)
[16:31] <plars> balloons: btw, I forgot to mention, there's an error in this testcase: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1405/info
[16:31] <plars> balloons: that line "netstat 127.0.0.1 25" should be telnet, not netstat
[17:02] <phillw> balloons: plars http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1405/info has been corrected.
[17:04] <plars> thanks phillw
[17:22] <silverarrow> is there any hope for improvement on the ppc iso?
[17:25] <silverarrow> ubuntu is really good when you get it to work
[17:26] <nm_geo> I am installing powerpc Lubuntu right now on my G4
[17:27] <silverarrow> what G4?
[17:27] <silverarrow> I have the last iBook, 1.42GHz and 1.5GB RAM
[17:28] <silverarrow> which is G4 I mean
[17:28] <nm_geo> Titanium 2002 1ghz 1 GB PowerBook radeon AT graphics
[17:28] <nm_geo> you have radeon graphics?
[17:29] <silverarrow> I have someone who are offering me a quad G5, but it is rather large and all the issues with ppc
[17:29] <silverarrow> yes, radeon
[17:29] <nm_geo> cool
[17:29] <nm_geo> I do it with USB prepared with dd
[17:30] <nm_geo> You can use CD as well the key is getting to live session
[17:30] <silverarrow> yeah, I used CD
[17:31] <silverarrow> and I had to use live radeon.something.something
[17:31] <nm_geo> Here is the yaboot kernel command that works here
[17:31] <nm_geo> live video=radeonfb:1024x786-32@60
[17:31] <silverarrow>  yes that one
[17:32] <nm_geo> it is working I am about 15 minutes from installation
[17:32] <silverarrow> in 12.04 it was missing b43 drivers that halted the boot stage
[17:33] <nm_geo> yeah fortunately mine is agere
[17:33] <silverarrow> I have odd troubles in quantal
[17:33] <silverarrow> no alsamixer
[17:33] <silverarrow> I have made a mess of it, might have to reinstall the whole thing
[17:34] <nm_geo> I also have a b43 issue so I keep the firmware on a USB to install to my live sessions
[17:34] <silverarrow> how do you go about that? I should do that
[17:34] <nm_geo> on a Dell
[17:34] <nm_geo> well it requires a persistent USB
[17:34] <silverarrow> hmm. I have a regular usb
[17:35] <silverarrow> probably rather laid back
[17:35] <nm_geo> I have yet to get a good persistent USB built for my ppc iso
[17:36] <silverarrow> could you burn the packages on CD?
[17:37] <nm_geo> well you have got to get the firmware installed to the /lib/firmware folder with a persistent USB plugged in yes you can  might get that with UCK or some other method
[17:37] <silverarrow> I have made a mess of usb install, so I often stick to CD when I can
[17:38] <nm_geo> I understand I am just cheap :)
[17:38] <silverarrow> so it`s not enough transfering the packages to a usb and let intaller take care of it+
[17:40] <nm_geo> no they would need to be locate in the /lib/firmware folder that is why a persistent USB is needed
[17:40] <nm_geo> located
[17:40] <silverarrow> I shall have to look in to that
[17:40] <nm_geo> then you can reboot an get the wifi working
[17:41] <silverarrow> my usb wireless is acting up with drivers too
[17:42] <nm_geo> yeah you may need b43 legacy firmware
[17:43] <silverarrow> on the internal wireless, which is quite good on the old G4
[17:43] <nm_geo> You are correct when you say it looks good on G4 when you get it woring
[17:43] <silverarrow> the usb ones are rlt8187, driver bug
[17:44] <silverarrow> did you choose lubuntu or ubuntu?
[17:44] <nm_geo> oh i see you are using external usb dongle
[17:45] <silverarrow> an extra external usb has often been a saver, but not this time
[17:45] <nm_geo> Lubuntu is the only desktop going forward as I know it
[17:45] <silverarrow> and I share my network with the neighbors upstairs, and the moden is just inside their door,  so cumbersome to access
[17:46] <silverarrow> lxde is working nicely
[17:46] <nm_geo> yes sometimes I even convert my DE to full lxde
[17:46] <silverarrow> the later G4 and G5 probably handle Unity all fine
[17:47] <phillw> nm_geo: you got a pass for ppc iso! Congrats!
[17:47] <nm_geo> probably but going forward I think on Lubuntu will be ppc
[17:48] <nm_geo> yeah i am 5 minutes from full install
[17:48] <silverarrow> I chose lubuntu because of the mplayer and gecko setup, but now that is all ruined
[17:49] <nm_geo> Well I am on the qa-lunbtu team so i test them primarily
[17:49] <silverarrow> nm_geo: you are probably right, for some ppc models lxde is probably the best
[17:49] <nm_geo> lubuntu
[17:50] <phillw> silverarrow: applications can be looked into, just getting ppc to install has been a major stumbling block since ~ Alpha 3
[17:50] <nm_geo> Well it keep my memory at about 150MIB idling
[17:50] <silverarrow> phillw: yes, and I understand
[17:50] <nm_geo> BRB checking my full install now
[17:51] <silverarrow> one thing which works very nicely on my G4 is suspend and hibernate
[17:51] <silverarrow> first time I have no trouble with it
[17:52] <silverarrow> I wonder if the key is a large swap
[17:52] <silverarrow> at least 1GB even on smaller computers
[17:53] <phillw> bbs, dinner is calling!
[17:53] <nm_geo> main issues right now are kernel graphic problems
[17:54] <silverarrow> I understand
[17:54] <nm_geo> eat well phillw
[17:54] <silverarrow> radeon graphic card is probably all bypassed
[17:54] <silverarrow> phillw: not too much !!
[17:54] <silverarrow> ;- )
[17:55] <nm_geo> success the entire drive install is working on Lubuntu ppc
[17:55] <silverarrow> nm_geo: is there a chance to get close to graphic hardware acceleration on the radeon drivers?
[17:55] <silverarrow> congratulations !
[17:56] <nm_geo> yeah I wish we were able to get the nvidia problems ironed out
[17:56] <silverarrow> live video=radeonfb:1024x786-32@60 should work on all radeon models I think
[17:57] <nm_geo> I agree but there are some nvidia graphics that are tougher
[17:58] <silverarrow> I see
[17:58] <nm_geo> Updating the qa-tracker be right back again
[21:14] <jmarsden> Has anyone else tested the Ubuntu Server PPC Quantal Final image?  It installs but I'm seeing a kernel panic when booting from the hard disk.  Now installing the older Beta2 image to verify that it worked back then...
[21:34] <silverarrow> jmarsden: I don`t know, I haven`t heard anything. IBM new hardware get`s lot of attention in the server sector
[21:36] <jmarsden> silverarrow: OK.  I'm testing on ancient hardware (Powerbook G4 laptop), but still... Beta2 worked, Final fails... something is wrong, I think.
[21:38] <skaet> infinity, ^ any data points?
[21:40] <kanliot> yeah jmarsden some new killer bug manages to show at this date
[21:40] <jmarsden> kanliot: are you seeing the same problem on PPC hardware?
[21:41] <kanliot> nope just a bystander :)
[21:41] <jmarsden> OK.  I'll verify md5sums on the ISO I downloaded and on the CD-R I burned, then retest...
[21:46] <silverarrow> I am on an iBook G4, and server is about the same?
[21:47] <silverarrow> killer bug doesn`t sound nice
[21:48] <jmarsden> silverarrow: Have you tested any of the Quantal Final images on your iBoot G4?  Do they install and run for you?
[21:49] <silverarrow> I am downloading now
[21:49] <silverarrow> ¨
[21:50] <silverarrow> because you mentioned this
[21:50] <jmarsden> silverarrow: OK, thanks :)
[21:50] <phillw> jmarsden: nm_geo has had lubuntu desktop running okay today.
[21:50] <jmarsden> My md5sums check out fine, retesting the install now.
[21:51] <silverarrow> daily from the 12 will do?
[21:52] <silverarrow> 12. of october I mean
[21:52] <jmarsden> silverarrow: I don't know, I didn't test yesterday :)  Can you zync it up to the current "Final" image?
[21:52] <jmarsden> *zsync
[21:56] <silverarrow> I can, however it is the current daily?
[21:57] <jmarsden> silverarrow: As far as I know, yes.  The QA tracker links to it from http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/240/builds/25730/downloads
[21:58] <jmarsden> which says  zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/20121013/quantal-server-powerpc.iso.zsync
[22:01] <silverarrow> ok, I will use that link
[22:04] <silverarrow> putting out a benchmark on a saturday
[22:34] <jmarsden> http://imagebin.org/231869 is a bad cellphone camera "screenshot" of the kernel panic I am seeing
[23:05] <infinity> skaet: No clue, sorry, I don't own any powerbooks to test on.
[23:12] <jmarsden> Is there a wiki page or similar describing good ways to report "kernel panic at boot" type of issues?