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pmatulisWowzers!  i just discovered that I have both pcmanfm and nautilus installed.  did i drag that in manually or is this the default?01:41
hash__ok so im having trouble installing lubuntu thru the gui install is there a way that i can install thru termainal01:43
pmatulishash__: there should be an alternate cd01:47
hash__idk it was the torrent from the lubuntu site01:48
pmatulishttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Alternate_ISO01:49
hash__ah i found the alternate iso01:49
hash__thanks01:49
pmatulishash__: yw01:49
phiscribeyou dragged nautilus in pmatulis01:49
pmatulisphiscribe: ok, need to find how...01:50
pmatulisdunno, i just removed it and nothing else was impacted.  strange01:58
pmatulisk, finally got this one in: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/106643202:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1066432 in firefox (Ubuntu) "[Lubuntu 12.10] Multiple instances of Firefox are closed if just one is closed" [Undecided,New]02:15
kanliotpmatulis, you should file that bug upstream02:19
kanliotfirefox has a nice bug tracker02:19
kanliotand chromium behaves the same way02:20
kanliotwhich raises a question02:20
pmatuliskanliot: it doesn't happen in ubuntu so i figured it was lubuntu-centric02:22
kanlioti didn't know that02:22
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Random833Will the cpufreq panel applet be fixed in 12.10?05:37
Random833[I have a kludged fix that just calls system("gksudo cpufreq-set...), if it's not]05:38
kanliotplease report the bug06:26
Random833well, I assumed it had already been reported, since there are posts on forums for like forever06:35
Random833but ok06:35
wxlRandom833: forums != Launchpad06:35
Random833ok, i reported the bug06:42
wxlthank you06:42
Random833but just so you know, the _reason_ I asked "is it fixed in 12.10" was so I don't make an idiot of myself by reporting a bug that's already fixed06:43
Random833so it's on you if it is06:43
wxli ask you who the bigger idiot is:06:44
wxl1. the guy that reports a bug that's already reported06:44
wxl2. the guy that doesn't report a bug because he assumes it's already reported06:44
wxlas a general rule, i say report the bug06:44
wxlit will get duped when triaged and no one will create a fuss06:45
tweak-daddyI have the Lubuntu OS with LXDE installed, which has two apparently identical desktops by default. If possible, I would like to have two different desktop designs. If that is possible, where can I find instructions on getting some different themes and altering one of these desktops?13:16
tweak-daddyand when I say altering the desktops, I mean simply changing the wallpaper and existing window colors or styles, not adding new elements.13:17
PN1hi, i've uploaded a new media player to Ubunto Software Center 2 day ago but my status is panding review.13:41
PN1anyone knows what is it taking so long?13:42
head_victimPN1: I assume you've followed the instructions - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppReviewBoard/Submissions13:50
head_victimPN1: and if you're still not sure of the process https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppReviewBoard has a good list of how to contact the relevant people if you have any concerns or questions.13:53
PN1head_victim: I followed the instruction. I uploaded without the source code, maybe that's the problem?13:53
h_boyzAiuto x Configurare xorg su vecchio nb14:03
h_boyzFf14:03
h_boyzAiuto x configurare xorg su vecchio nb14:04
h_boyzGià tentato con canali convenzionali14:04
h_boyzNessuno disponibile?14:06
tweak-daddywhat is the difference between "mark for removal" and "mark for complete removal" in Synaptic?14:34
tweak-daddydoes the former just uninstall it from loading into the OS but leave it on disk so that one can reinstall it if the effect is undesirable?14:36
tweak-daddyappears as if i can gain a lot of space by uninstalling all these Thai and Punjabi fonts.14:37
tweak-daddyI think it unlikely that I should need them anytime soon. Doubtful that I should come across a Punjabi woman in the forseeable future.14:39
head_victimtweak-daddy: I believe complete removal also removes any configurations and saved files associated with the program.14:51
head_victimDouble check that, but I think that's the difference.14:52
tweak-daddywell that makes sense, head_victim. no need for the config files, i suppose, and removing them adds a bit more space too.15:00
GiusHi15:10
Giusqualcuno è italiano ??15:12
Giusavrei bisogno d'aiuto...15:12
GuyFawkesHey guys16:06
GuyFawkesWhy would Minecraft not be working?16:06
GuyFawkesIt's giving an error about LWJGL16:06
GuyFawkesJussi16:11
GuyFawkesCan you help me with getting Minecraft working?16:11
tweak-daddyi wonder whether there is any advisory-like program for analysing the Lubuntu OS installation in terms of its security, which would then make suggestions for improving the settings or configuration?16:12
tweak-daddyi am reading an Ubuntu document stating that the default firewall program is ufw, which is disabled initially. Since I do want a firewall on this PC, I am going to enable it. Will it alert me when connection attempts are made so that I can set up the rules ad hoc, or would I be required to set them up proactively for the specific set of rules I want?17:45
tweak-daddydid all of that text make it through or where did it cut off if not?17:47
Unit193tweak-daddy: It made it, if you ended with "proactively for the specific set of rules I want?"17:54
Unit193!ufw17:54
ubottuUbuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Gufw (GNOME) and Guarddog (KDE from Lucid onwards) also exist.17:54
Unit193There is also gufw, pretty sure at least.17:54
tweak-daddyyes, it ended there, Unit193. thanks.18:05
Unit193I'd try the links, I've only used iptables rather than UFW.18:06
tweak-daddyi will look at the links. there is a gufw program too. i'm looking at syntax and procedures of both.18:07
Unit193(Well, used it once, but it was very little)18:08
tweak-daddyso you set up the ip tables. the first link in fact was the document I was looking at, but i am still wondering about the alerts though.18:10
Unit193There is a log file.18:10
tweak-daddyi'll have to dig a little deeper with a link on that page too to get my little answer now.18:11
tweak-daddyyes, i was looking at the documentation about the logging capabilities, which are pretty much indespensible. there appears to be a program called nulog, which provides a web interface to netfilter logs. i am going to take a look at that. have you used it or something else if not?18:17
Unit193I tail a few logs , and remember that grep is my friend.  Log files in /var/log/18:18
polixHi there, I got a quection: why is Firefox not standard browser on Lubuntu?19:33
polixhi WildTux19:42
bennypr0faneHello, I have it seems a problem with my fstab. I have a data partition mounted in fstab but it seems I cannot write downloads to it. Dropbox is on that partition and it does sync23:30
bennypr0fanehere's my fstab: http://pastebin.com/vhPCmSsi23:31
bennypr0faneand blkid: http://pastebin.com/uF5t7Yey23:33
bennypr0fane...the reason I suspect there is a problem in fstab is that I get a permission denied error for the downloads23:36
bennypr0fanealso, I can't copy local files to that partition. but then how is Dropbox granted permission?23:38
holstein!chown | bennypr0fane23:44
ubottubennypr0fane: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions23:44
holsteini have usually just mounted things to a directory and chowned... im sure there is a better way... i have done this both manually and with fstab23:45
holsteinlooks like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive#Automatic_Mount_At_Boot iirc23:47
bennypr0faneholstein: if my user owns this partition with read/write permissions, it should work, right?23:47
bennypr0fanehow do you explain that Dropbox can write to it23:47
holsteinbennypr0fane: it should, im not convinced either dropbox can23:48
holsteini would just keep troubleshooting and it literally wont hurt to try mounting it to a directory with the expected permissions23:48
holsteincould be that the dropbox directory got chowned during installl somehow.. i remember it asking for a password for something "admistrative"23:49
bennypr0faneDropbox *can* write to it on my computer, otherwise it would give an error msg "folder not found", which it does on other distros where I was trying to put Dropbox on a partition not mounted in fstab23:51
holsteinbennypr0fane: we dont need to split hairs.. we an just stick to the facts... you dont have right permissions on something and chown is a good place to start23:51
bennypr0faneI wasn't asked for a pwd during install23:52
bennypr0faneok23:52
holsteinbennypr0fane: i have been... i could be remembering an older installer... or mis-remembering23:52
bennypr0fanebut my point is if I already own the partition, there's not much else I can do about it, is there?23:52
holsteinbennypr0fane: i would just look at the directory and make sure it has the expected permissions... make sure you can write to it23:53
holsteinbennypr0fane: you can confirm the permissions... if you "own" it, and you cant write to it, i would start troubleshooting after confirming, and running a sudo chown command23:53
bennypr0fanehow do I confirm the permissions?23:54
holsteinbennypr0fane: i would just look.. even in a file manager.. but it wont hurt to chown it, following those commands i linked for adding a hard drive23:55
bennypr0faneI right-clicked in file manager, >properties>permissions: owner is my user, owner has read/write permission23:55
bennypr0faneok23:55
holsteinsudo chown -R USERNAME:USERNAME /media/mynewdrive for example23:55
bennypr0fanedo you know what exaclty the -R argument means?23:57
holstein-R, --recursive operate on files and directories recursively23:57
holsteinbennypr0fane: thats from man chown ^^23:57
bennypr0faneI've been meaning to find those man pages23:58
bennypr0fanethey should all be on my system right?23:58
holsteinhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions#Recursive_Permission_Changes23:58
holsteinbennypr0fane: you can type in a terminal... "man chown"23:58
bennypr0fanehow do you look somnething up in man?23:58
bennypr0faneok like I thought23:59
bennypr0fanelast time I did that it went wrnog though23:59
bennypr0faneI wanted to look up the man for rename23:59
holsteinit?... its a terminal. as normal user.. it can only go so wrong23:59
bennypr0faneand typed "man rename"23:59

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