[01:41] Wowzers! i just discovered that I have both pcmanfm and nautilus installed. did i drag that in manually or is this the default? [01:43] ok so im having trouble installing lubuntu thru the gui install is there a way that i can install thru termainal [01:47] hash__: there should be an alternate cd [01:48] idk it was the torrent from the lubuntu site [01:49] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Alternate_ISO [01:49] ah i found the alternate iso [01:49] thanks [01:49] hash__: yw [01:49] you dragged nautilus in pmatulis [01:50] phiscribe: ok, need to find how... [01:58] dunno, i just removed it and nothing else was impacted. strange [02:15] k, finally got this one in: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1066432 [02:15] Launchpad bug 1066432 in firefox (Ubuntu) "[Lubuntu 12.10] Multiple instances of Firefox are closed if just one is closed" [Undecided,New] [02:19] pmatulis, you should file that bug upstream [02:19] firefox has a nice bug tracker [02:20] and chromium behaves the same way [02:20] which raises a question [02:22] kanliot: it doesn't happen in ubuntu so i figured it was lubuntu-centric [02:22] i didn't know that === chalced is now known as chalcedony === IboS_ is now known as IboS [05:37] Will the cpufreq panel applet be fixed in 12.10? [05:38] [I have a kludged fix that just calls system("gksudo cpufreq-set...), if it's not] [06:26] please report the bug [06:35] well, I assumed it had already been reported, since there are posts on forums for like forever [06:35] but ok [06:35] Random833: forums != Launchpad [06:42] ok, i reported the bug [06:42] thank you [06:43] but just so you know, the _reason_ I asked "is it fixed in 12.10" was so I don't make an idiot of myself by reporting a bug that's already fixed [06:43] so it's on you if it is [06:44] i ask you who the bigger idiot is: [06:44] 1. the guy that reports a bug that's already reported [06:44] 2. the guy that doesn't report a bug because he assumes it's already reported [06:44] as a general rule, i say report the bug [06:45] it will get duped when triaged and no one will create a fuss [13:16] I have the Lubuntu OS with LXDE installed, which has two apparently identical desktops by default. If possible, I would like to have two different desktop designs. If that is possible, where can I find instructions on getting some different themes and altering one of these desktops? [13:17] and when I say altering the desktops, I mean simply changing the wallpaper and existing window colors or styles, not adding new elements. [13:41] hi, i've uploaded a new media player to Ubunto Software Center 2 day ago but my status is panding review. [13:42] anyone knows what is it taking so long? [13:50] PN1: I assume you've followed the instructions - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppReviewBoard/Submissions [13:53] PN1: and if you're still not sure of the process https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppReviewBoard has a good list of how to contact the relevant people if you have any concerns or questions. [13:53] head_victim: I followed the instruction. I uploaded without the source code, maybe that's the problem? [14:03] Aiuto x Configurare xorg su vecchio nb [14:03] Ff [14:04] Aiuto x configurare xorg su vecchio nb [14:04] Già tentato con canali convenzionali [14:06] Nessuno disponibile? [14:34] what is the difference between "mark for removal" and "mark for complete removal" in Synaptic? [14:36] does the former just uninstall it from loading into the OS but leave it on disk so that one can reinstall it if the effect is undesirable? [14:37] appears as if i can gain a lot of space by uninstalling all these Thai and Punjabi fonts. [14:39] I think it unlikely that I should need them anytime soon. Doubtful that I should come across a Punjabi woman in the forseeable future. [14:51] tweak-daddy: I believe complete removal also removes any configurations and saved files associated with the program. [14:52] Double check that, but I think that's the difference. [15:00] well that makes sense, head_victim. no need for the config files, i suppose, and removing them adds a bit more space too. [15:10] Hi [15:12] qualcuno è italiano ?? [15:12] avrei bisogno d'aiuto... [16:06] Hey guys [16:06] Why would Minecraft not be working? [16:06] It's giving an error about LWJGL [16:11] Jussi [16:11] Can you help me with getting Minecraft working? [16:12] i wonder whether there is any advisory-like program for analysing the Lubuntu OS installation in terms of its security, which would then make suggestions for improving the settings or configuration? [17:45] i am reading an Ubuntu document stating that the default firewall program is ufw, which is disabled initially. Since I do want a firewall on this PC, I am going to enable it. Will it alert me when connection attempts are made so that I can set up the rules ad hoc, or would I be required to set them up proactively for the specific set of rules I want? [17:47] did all of that text make it through or where did it cut off if not? [17:54] tweak-daddy: It made it, if you ended with "proactively for the specific set of rules I want?" [17:54] !ufw [17:54] Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Gufw (GNOME) and Guarddog (KDE from Lucid onwards) also exist. [17:54] There is also gufw, pretty sure at least. [18:05] yes, it ended there, Unit193. thanks. [18:06] I'd try the links, I've only used iptables rather than UFW. [18:07] i will look at the links. there is a gufw program too. i'm looking at syntax and procedures of both. [18:08] (Well, used it once, but it was very little) [18:10] so you set up the ip tables. the first link in fact was the document I was looking at, but i am still wondering about the alerts though. [18:10] There is a log file. [18:11] i'll have to dig a little deeper with a link on that page too to get my little answer now. [18:17] yes, i was looking at the documentation about the logging capabilities, which are pretty much indespensible. there appears to be a program called nulog, which provides a web interface to netfilter logs. i am going to take a look at that. have you used it or something else if not? [18:18] I tail a few logs , and remember that grep is my friend. Log files in /var/log/ [19:33] Hi there, I got a quection: why is Firefox not standard browser on Lubuntu? [19:42] hi WildTux [23:30] Hello, I have it seems a problem with my fstab. I have a data partition mounted in fstab but it seems I cannot write downloads to it. Dropbox is on that partition and it does sync [23:31] here's my fstab: http://pastebin.com/vhPCmSsi [23:33] and blkid: http://pastebin.com/uF5t7Yey [23:36] ...the reason I suspect there is a problem in fstab is that I get a permission denied error for the downloads [23:38] also, I can't copy local files to that partition. but then how is Dropbox granted permission? [23:44] !chown | bennypr0fane [23:44] bennypr0fane: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions [23:45] i have usually just mounted things to a directory and chowned... im sure there is a better way... i have done this both manually and with fstab [23:47] looks like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive#Automatic_Mount_At_Boot iirc [23:47] holstein: if my user owns this partition with read/write permissions, it should work, right? [23:47] how do you explain that Dropbox can write to it [23:48] bennypr0fane: it should, im not convinced either dropbox can [23:48] i would just keep troubleshooting and it literally wont hurt to try mounting it to a directory with the expected permissions [23:49] could be that the dropbox directory got chowned during installl somehow.. i remember it asking for a password for something "admistrative" [23:51] Dropbox *can* write to it on my computer, otherwise it would give an error msg "folder not found", which it does on other distros where I was trying to put Dropbox on a partition not mounted in fstab [23:51] bennypr0fane: we dont need to split hairs.. we an just stick to the facts... you dont have right permissions on something and chown is a good place to start [23:52] I wasn't asked for a pwd during install [23:52] ok [23:52] bennypr0fane: i have been... i could be remembering an older installer... or mis-remembering [23:52] but my point is if I already own the partition, there's not much else I can do about it, is there? [23:53] bennypr0fane: i would just look at the directory and make sure it has the expected permissions... make sure you can write to it [23:53] bennypr0fane: you can confirm the permissions... if you "own" it, and you cant write to it, i would start troubleshooting after confirming, and running a sudo chown command [23:54] how do I confirm the permissions? [23:55] bennypr0fane: i would just look.. even in a file manager.. but it wont hurt to chown it, following those commands i linked for adding a hard drive [23:55] I right-clicked in file manager, >properties>permissions: owner is my user, owner has read/write permission [23:55] ok [23:55] sudo chown -R USERNAME:USERNAME /media/mynewdrive for example [23:57] do you know what exaclty the -R argument means? [23:57] -R, --recursive operate on files and directories recursively [23:57] bennypr0fane: thats from man chown ^^ [23:58] I've been meaning to find those man pages [23:58] they should all be on my system right? [23:58] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions#Recursive_Permission_Changes [23:58] bennypr0fane: you can type in a terminal... "man chown" [23:58] how do you look somnething up in man? [23:59] ok like I thought [23:59] last time I did that it went wrnog though [23:59] I wanted to look up the man for rename [23:59] it?... its a terminal. as normal user.. it can only go so wrong [23:59] and typed "man rename"