[01:41] <pmatulis> Wowzers!  i just discovered that I have both pcmanfm and nautilus installed.  did i drag that in manually or is this the default?
[01:43] <hash__> ok so im having trouble installing lubuntu thru the gui install is there a way that i can install thru termainal
[01:47] <pmatulis> hash__: there should be an alternate cd
[01:48] <hash__> idk it was the torrent from the lubuntu site
[01:49] <pmatulis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Alternate_ISO
[01:49] <hash__> ah i found the alternate iso
[01:49] <hash__> thanks
[01:49] <pmatulis> hash__: yw
[01:49] <phiscribe> you dragged nautilus in pmatulis
[01:50] <pmatulis> phiscribe: ok, need to find how...
[01:58] <pmatulis> dunno, i just removed it and nothing else was impacted.  strange
[02:15] <pmatulis> k, finally got this one in: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1066432
[02:19] <kanliot> pmatulis, you should file that bug upstream
[02:19] <kanliot> firefox has a nice bug tracker
[02:20] <kanliot> and chromium behaves the same way
[02:20] <kanliot> which raises a question
[02:22] <pmatulis> kanliot: it doesn't happen in ubuntu so i figured it was lubuntu-centric
[02:22] <kanliot> i didn't know that
[05:37] <Random833> Will the cpufreq panel applet be fixed in 12.10?
[05:38] <Random833> [I have a kludged fix that just calls system("gksudo cpufreq-set...), if it's not]
[06:26] <kanliot> please report the bug
[06:35] <Random833> well, I assumed it had already been reported, since there are posts on forums for like forever
[06:35] <Random833> but ok
[06:35] <wxl> Random833: forums != Launchpad
[06:42] <Random833> ok, i reported the bug
[06:42] <wxl> thank you
[06:43] <Random833> but just so you know, the _reason_ I asked "is it fixed in 12.10" was so I don't make an idiot of myself by reporting a bug that's already fixed
[06:43] <Random833> so it's on you if it is
[06:44] <wxl> i ask you who the bigger idiot is:
[06:44] <wxl> 1. the guy that reports a bug that's already reported
[06:44] <wxl> 2. the guy that doesn't report a bug because he assumes it's already reported
[06:44] <wxl> as a general rule, i say report the bug
[06:45] <wxl> it will get duped when triaged and no one will create a fuss
[13:16] <tweak-daddy> I have the Lubuntu OS with LXDE installed, which has two apparently identical desktops by default. If possible, I would like to have two different desktop designs. If that is possible, where can I find instructions on getting some different themes and altering one of these desktops?
[13:17] <tweak-daddy> and when I say altering the desktops, I mean simply changing the wallpaper and existing window colors or styles, not adding new elements.
[13:41] <PN1> hi, i've uploaded a new media player to Ubunto Software Center 2 day ago but my status is panding review.
[13:42] <PN1> anyone knows what is it taking so long?
[13:50] <head_victim> PN1: I assume you've followed the instructions - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppReviewBoard/Submissions
[13:53] <head_victim> PN1: and if you're still not sure of the process https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppReviewBoard has a good list of how to contact the relevant people if you have any concerns or questions.
[13:53] <PN1> head_victim: I followed the instruction. I uploaded without the source code, maybe that's the problem?
[14:03] <h_boyz> Aiuto x Configurare xorg su vecchio nb
[14:03] <h_boyz> Ff
[14:04] <h_boyz> Aiuto x configurare xorg su vecchio nb
[14:04] <h_boyz> Già tentato con canali convenzionali
[14:06] <h_boyz> Nessuno disponibile?
[14:34] <tweak-daddy> what is the difference between "mark for removal" and "mark for complete removal" in Synaptic?
[14:36] <tweak-daddy> does the former just uninstall it from loading into the OS but leave it on disk so that one can reinstall it if the effect is undesirable?
[14:37] <tweak-daddy> appears as if i can gain a lot of space by uninstalling all these Thai and Punjabi fonts.
[14:39] <tweak-daddy> I think it unlikely that I should need them anytime soon. Doubtful that I should come across a Punjabi woman in the forseeable future.
[14:51] <head_victim> tweak-daddy: I believe complete removal also removes any configurations and saved files associated with the program.
[14:52] <head_victim> Double check that, but I think that's the difference.
[15:00] <tweak-daddy> well that makes sense, head_victim. no need for the config files, i suppose, and removing them adds a bit more space too.
[15:10] <Gius> Hi
[15:12] <Gius> qualcuno è italiano ??
[15:12] <Gius> avrei bisogno d'aiuto...
[16:06] <GuyFawkes> Hey guys
[16:06] <GuyFawkes> Why would Minecraft not be working?
[16:06] <GuyFawkes> It's giving an error about LWJGL
[16:11] <GuyFawkes> Jussi
[16:11] <GuyFawkes> Can you help me with getting Minecraft working?
[16:12] <tweak-daddy> i wonder whether there is any advisory-like program for analysing the Lubuntu OS installation in terms of its security, which would then make suggestions for improving the settings or configuration?
[17:45] <tweak-daddy> i am reading an Ubuntu document stating that the default firewall program is ufw, which is disabled initially. Since I do want a firewall on this PC, I am going to enable it. Will it alert me when connection attempts are made so that I can set up the rules ad hoc, or would I be required to set them up proactively for the specific set of rules I want?
[17:47] <tweak-daddy> did all of that text make it through or where did it cut off if not?
[17:54] <Unit193> tweak-daddy: It made it, if you ended with "proactively for the specific set of rules I want?"
[17:54] <Unit193> !ufw
[17:54] <Unit193> There is also gufw, pretty sure at least.
[18:05] <tweak-daddy> yes, it ended there, Unit193. thanks.
[18:06] <Unit193> I'd try the links, I've only used iptables rather than UFW.
[18:07] <tweak-daddy> i will look at the links. there is a gufw program too. i'm looking at syntax and procedures of both.
[18:08] <Unit193> (Well, used it once, but it was very little)
[18:10] <tweak-daddy> so you set up the ip tables. the first link in fact was the document I was looking at, but i am still wondering about the alerts though.
[18:10] <Unit193> There is a log file.
[18:11] <tweak-daddy> i'll have to dig a little deeper with a link on that page too to get my little answer now.
[18:17] <tweak-daddy> yes, i was looking at the documentation about the logging capabilities, which are pretty much indespensible. there appears to be a program called nulog, which provides a web interface to netfilter logs. i am going to take a look at that. have you used it or something else if not?
[18:18] <Unit193> I tail a few logs , and remember that grep is my friend.  Log files in /var/log/
[19:33] <polix> Hi there, I got a quection: why is Firefox not standard browser on Lubuntu?
[19:42] <polix> hi WildTux
[23:30] <bennypr0fane> Hello, I have it seems a problem with my fstab. I have a data partition mounted in fstab but it seems I cannot write downloads to it. Dropbox is on that partition and it does sync
[23:31] <bennypr0fane> here's my fstab: http://pastebin.com/vhPCmSsi
[23:33] <bennypr0fane> and blkid: http://pastebin.com/uF5t7Yey
[23:36] <bennypr0fane> ...the reason I suspect there is a problem in fstab is that I get a permission denied error for the downloads
[23:38] <bennypr0fane> also, I can't copy local files to that partition. but then how is Dropbox granted permission?
[23:44] <holstein> !chown | bennypr0fane
[23:45] <holstein> i have usually just mounted things to a directory and chowned... im sure there is a better way... i have done this both manually and with fstab
[23:47] <holstein> looks like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive#Automatic_Mount_At_Boot iirc
[23:47] <bennypr0fane> holstein: if my user owns this partition with read/write permissions, it should work, right?
[23:47] <bennypr0fane> how do you explain that Dropbox can write to it
[23:48] <holstein> bennypr0fane: it should, im not convinced either dropbox can
[23:48] <holstein> i would just keep troubleshooting and it literally wont hurt to try mounting it to a directory with the expected permissions
[23:49] <holstein> could be that the dropbox directory got chowned during installl somehow.. i remember it asking for a password for something "admistrative"
[23:51] <bennypr0fane> Dropbox *can* write to it on my computer, otherwise it would give an error msg "folder not found", which it does on other distros where I was trying to put Dropbox on a partition not mounted in fstab
[23:51] <holstein> bennypr0fane: we dont need to split hairs.. we an just stick to the facts... you dont have right permissions on something and chown is a good place to start
[23:52] <bennypr0fane> I wasn't asked for a pwd during install
[23:52] <bennypr0fane> ok
[23:52] <holstein> bennypr0fane: i have been... i could be remembering an older installer... or mis-remembering
[23:52] <bennypr0fane> but my point is if I already own the partition, there's not much else I can do about it, is there?
[23:53] <holstein> bennypr0fane: i would just look at the directory and make sure it has the expected permissions... make sure you can write to it
[23:53] <holstein> bennypr0fane: you can confirm the permissions... if you "own" it, and you cant write to it, i would start troubleshooting after confirming, and running a sudo chown command
[23:54] <bennypr0fane> how do I confirm the permissions?
[23:55] <holstein> bennypr0fane: i would just look.. even in a file manager.. but it wont hurt to chown it, following those commands i linked for adding a hard drive
[23:55] <bennypr0fane> I right-clicked in file manager, >properties>permissions: owner is my user, owner has read/write permission
[23:55] <bennypr0fane> ok
[23:55] <holstein> sudo chown -R USERNAME:USERNAME /media/mynewdrive for example
[23:57] <bennypr0fane> do you know what exaclty the -R argument means?
[23:57] <holstein> -R, --recursive operate on files and directories recursively
[23:57] <holstein> bennypr0fane: thats from man chown ^^
[23:58] <bennypr0fane> I've been meaning to find those man pages
[23:58] <bennypr0fane> they should all be on my system right?
[23:58] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions#Recursive_Permission_Changes
[23:58] <holstein> bennypr0fane: you can type in a terminal... "man chown"
[23:58] <bennypr0fane> how do you look somnething up in man?
[23:59] <bennypr0fane> ok like I thought
[23:59] <bennypr0fane> last time I did that it went wrnog though
[23:59] <bennypr0fane> I wanted to look up the man for rename
[23:59] <holstein> it?... its a terminal. as normal user.. it can only go so wrong
[23:59] <bennypr0fane> and typed "man rename"