| chilts | morning | 18:27 |
|---|---|---|
| ajmitch | morning | 19:32 |
| ibeardslee | morning | 19:54 |
| mwhudson | morning | 20:15 |
| mwhudson | is it too soon to join #ubuntu-release-party? | 20:15 |
| ajmitch | probably | 20:16 |
| ajmitch | you could start asking if it's out yet | 20:16 |
| mwhudson | hah | 20:16 |
| ibeardslee | heh | 20:16 |
| mwhudson | it seems that redirects to ubuntu-offtopic | 20:16 |
| * ajmitch wonders if it's safe to upgrade his laptop to quantal yet | 20:16 | |
| * ibeardslee finally managed to get his UltraLap running quantal with an encrypted LVM disk | 20:17 | |
| ajmitch | did it take much work? | 20:17 |
| ibeardslee | had to install with the precise alternate install and then upgrade | 20:17 |
| ajmitch | that sort of thing was meant to be in the quantal desktop installer, since the alternate image is being discontinued | 20:18 |
| ibeardslee | ahh that would explain why I couldn't find that image | 20:18 |
| ibeardslee | I could create an encrypted disk, but didn't seem to be able to tweak the lvm images within that as part of the install | 20:19 |
| ibeardslee | lvm config | 20:19 |
| ajmitch | I wonder if it's related at all to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1066480 | 20:19 |
| ajmitch | people have tested installing with lvm & encryption, but I don't know if the testcase involves tweaking lvm | 20:20 |
| thumper | morning | 20:21 |
| ibeardslee | the default was root and swap .. and I couldn't seem to change that | 20:21 |
| ibeardslee | although I must admit it took me a while in the 12.04.1 alternate to work out how to do it .. so may have missed that in the quantal installer | 20:22 |
| * ajmitch has never tried it | 20:22 | |
| ajmitch | I've set up lvm before, but with the alternate installer & without encryption | 20:22 |
| ibeardslee | you create a /boot which isn't encrypted | 20:23 |
| ibeardslee | and then a encrypted partition | 20:23 |
| ibeardslee | that encrypted partition seems to then be able to be treated as a new disk .. and create the LVM volumes etc within that | 20:24 |
| ibeardslee | looking at that bug .. /me will be wary trying to rerun an install | 20:30 |
| mwhudson | i used os x yesterday for the first time in a while | 20:38 |
| mwhudson | i was severely weirded out by not being able to tap super/command and type an application name | 20:38 |
| ibeardslee | I thought something like that was one of the great features of OSX, the reason gnome do came about | 20:39 |
| thumper | mwhudson: really | 20:40 |
| thumper | ? | 20:40 |
| mwhudson | thumper: yes | 20:40 |
| mwhudson | i had to use the trackpad and everything | 20:41 |
| thumper | mwhudson: doesn't osx have something similar though? | 20:41 |
| mwhudson | thumper: not in the version i have | 20:41 |
| thumper | ah | 20:41 |
| mwhudson | thumper: there are extensions | 20:41 |
| mwhudson | which in true apple style probably had all their good ideas stolen and incorporated into the os | 20:42 |
| thumper | mwhudson: are you going to copenhagen? | 20:42 |
| mwhudson | thumper: yes | 20:42 |
| thumper | mwhudson: when do you arrive? | 20:42 |
| mwhudson | thumper: 17:00 on sunday | 20:42 |
| mwhudson | BAmumblemumble | 20:42 |
| mwhudson | thumper: are you there for the pre-uds thing? | 20:43 |
| thumper | mwhudson: are you there for just UDS, or the pre-sprint? | 20:43 |
| mwhudson | thumper: just uds | 20:43 |
| thumper | mwhudson: I leave Saturday, there for all two weeks | 20:43 |
| mwhudson | ah ok | 20:43 |
| ajmitch | mwhudson: you're heading there as well? | 20:43 |
| mwhudson | thumper: nz1 back? | 20:44 |
| mwhudson | ajmitch: yeah, linaro connect is colocating again | 20:44 |
| thumper | mwhudson: over via LA, back via HK | 20:44 |
| mwhudson | thumper: the faster way around :-) | 20:44 |
| mwhudson | i'm via LA both ways | 20:45 |
| thumper | brobably cheaper | 20:45 |
| thumper | at the time | 20:45 |
| mwhudson | yeah | 20:45 |
| * ajmitch is going via LA & then back via HK as well | 20:45 | |
| thumper | NZ1/2 have the better planes | 20:45 |
| thumper | nicer screens | 20:45 |
| mwhudson | LAX is horrible, but the 777-300s are nicer so shrug | 20:45 |
| thumper | NZ38/39 still have older fittings | 20:45 |
| * ajmitch is flying out on the 27th | 20:46 | |
| thumper | I heard a rumour that as of next year, there will no longer be the holdin cells (room) in LAX for transit | 20:46 |
| mwhudson | yeah | 20:46 |
| mwhudson | moving to the international terminal | 20:46 |
| mwhudson | ajmitch: ah, will be on the same flight as you then | 20:46 |
| mwhudson | ajmitch: "NZ 002 T 27OCT 6 AKLLHR 2230 1045+1" | 20:47 |
| ajmitch | yep | 20:47 |
| mwhudson | ajmitch: then "BA 818 V 28OCT 7 LHRCPH 1400 1700" ? | 20:47 |
| mwhudson | i need to phone up air nz and get my upgrades back | 20:47 |
| ajmitch | yes, same one | 20:47 |
| ajmitch | coming back a couple of days after UDS though | 20:48 |
| mwhudson | because i didn't get upgraded last time but they're not available online | 20:48 |
| thomi | oh yeah - I should start thinking about getting ready for Copenhagen huh... | 20:48 |
| ajmitch | thomi: no rush | 20:48 |
| mwhudson | and then decide which legs i want to try to upgrade... | 20:48 |
| thomi | yeah, I'll throw some things in a bag the day before - what could possibly go wrong? | 20:48 |
| ajmitch | this channel will be even quieter than usual | 20:48 |
| thomi | heh | 20:48 |
| ajmitch | thomi: as long as you have your passport & laptop, you'll be right | 20:48 |
| ajmitch | morning lifeless | 20:48 |
| mwhudson | ajmitch, thomi: remembering the power supply makes things a bit less fraught too | 20:49 |
| thomi | so it turns out my family visit in the UK on the way back is right over bonfire night | 20:49 |
| thomi | \o/ | 20:49 |
| ajmitch | mwhudson: details, I'm sure you could pick one up over there :) | 20:49 |
| thomi | now I can pretend that the usual bonfire night party is in fact a party in my honour :) | 20:49 |
| lifeless | ajmitch: o/ | 20:49 |
| ojwb | morning | 21:04 |
| ibeardslee | 12:10 <@ian> seems chromium-browser on quantal includes the cacert certificates | 23:10 |
| ibeardslee | gah | 23:10 |
| ojwb | interesting | 23:13 |
| ojwb | i wonder if that's deliberate - debian have enabled them for ages, so ubuntu presumably deliberately didn't previously | 23:14 |
| ibeardslee | still not in firefox though | 23:16 |
| ojwb | hmm, so chromium has its own certificate list | 23:16 |
| ojwb | marvellous | 23:16 |
| ojwb | or firefox does | 23:16 |
| ibeardslee | my guess is they both have their own | 23:16 |
| ibeardslee | cacerts have seemed to exist in the ca-certificates package for a while | 23:18 |
| ojwb | everything really should be using those in the ca-certificates package | 23:18 |
| ojwb | but "shipped in ca-certificates" and "enabled" are separate things | 23:18 |
| ojwb | sudo dpkg-reconfigure ca-certificates | 23:19 |
| ojwb | that will allow you to see (and control) which are trusted | 23:19 |
| ibeardslee | and firefox and thunderbird require the cert separately .. not shared | 23:22 |
| ojwb | at least in debian wheezy, neither firefox nor chromium seem to use those certs | 23:34 |
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