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hggdhcrap again. Second install of MAAS on amd64 seems to fail00:39
hggdhskaet, plars: http://launchpad.net/bugs/1066421 utter failure on MAAS install, AMD64, server00:49
ubot2Launchpad bug 1066421 in maas "fresh MAAS install from ISO fails when opening the MAAS URL" [Undecided,New]00:49
slangasekScottK: mmh, cjwatson managed to extract the codename from him but we're apparently still waiting for the announcement00:55
slangasekstgraber: ok; it would be helpful if you could test the server install under SB since I'm not able to, but if you can't you can't00:55
slangasekstgraber: thanks for the bug report00:55
slangasekskaet, stgraber: so I've targeted the grub bug to quantal, because we should fix it for 12.10; the question is whether it should be post-release or not.  I'm having a look now at whether this impacts the installer's grub.cfg - it may well not00:59
slangasekstgraber, skaet, infinity: this bug doesn't affect the media, only the grub.cfg generated by update-grub; so I agree this is release-notable and have targeted to quantal-updates.  Will accept debian-installer now.01:03
slangasekskaet: I believe the grub2 -> debian-installer -> debian-cd dependencies related to boot mean that we should be respinning all our bootable images to make sure they're up-to-date.  Should we do that sooner rather than later?01:09
skaetslangasek, sooner rather than later would definitely be the preference.01:10
slangasekok.  should I queue up the builds then?01:10
* slangasek checks the pad for other targets of opportunity01:10
skaetslangasek, update the pad, and go ahead.    I'll update the tracker.01:11
slangasekskaet: pad updated, build triggers set01:17
skaetslangasek, iso tracker has everything except cloud images and wubi now marked for rebuilding.01:19
slangasekskaet: you targeted bug #1065686 to quantal-updates but it's still on the pad as an "opportunity target" - do we know where PS is with this?01:19
ubot2Launchpad bug 1065686 in unity-scope-video-remote "remote video scope doesn't full switch off traffic when privacy option switched on" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106568601:19
skaetgo ahdead and start it off if you've got it up.01:19
slangasekskaet: wubi is being rebuilt.  core is not.01:19
* skaet fixes core to indicate as such01:19
slangasekoh, let me think; maybe wubi doesn't need a rebuild either01:19
skaetslangasek, won't wubi need the rebuild once we get the certificates sorted01:20
slangasekyes01:20
skaetso, doesn't seem much point in spinning it now.01:20
slangasekbut I need to see how it gets its bootloader and whether it's affected by this d-i change01:20
skaetok01:20
slangasekhmmm, I don't think wubi is affected; dropping it from my respin pipeline01:21
skaetok01:21
skaetre: PS,  they've got a fix, but its probably tied in with other ones which we don't really want to pick up.01:22
skaetgo ahead without it,  but leave that one on the pad as an opportunity target if we can get a cherry picked update from them.01:23
plarsskaet: I added https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/1066376 - keyboard doesn't work to enter password with panda and encrypted partitions under the investigation section, I believe infinity is looking into it but it could be worked around with serial01:23
ubot2Launchpad bug 1066376 in initramfs-tools "keyboard doesn't work to enter password with panda and encrypted partitions" [Undecided,New]01:23
slangasekskaet: well, unless we're specifically pressing them for a cherry-picked update, I don't imagine we'll see one01:23
slangasekanyway - pipelines are all queued up and I'm heading out for the evening01:23
slangasekskaet, infinity: if something comes up before the pipes kick off (in ~1h) and you need to cancel them, it's 'killall -9 wait-for-package' on nusakan01:24
skaetslangasek,  agreed.   kick'em off01:24
skaetwhy the delay?01:24
* skaet figures PS is unlikely to be ready in next hour.01:25
skaetslangasek,  my understanding is that infinity is traveling now,  so won't be online for a while.01:25
slangasekoh, it is about that time, isn't it01:31
slangasekskaet: the delay is because we can't rebuild images for the updated d-i until the updated d-i is published...01:32
skaetslangasek,  gotcha.01:32
skaetplars, ok.  we'll release note it if necessary.01:33
skaet:)02:02
len-dtskaet, would it be possible to get a ubuntustudio respin?02:06
len-dt(after the above is approved..02:07
skaetlen-dt02:15
len-dtay02:15
skaetthere's a respin queue'd up now.02:15
skaetI'll go in and review the ubuntustudio-meta,  and hopefully it will make it in time.02:15
len-dtok, will the meta package above make it in?02:15
micahgskaet: respin is useless without the new meta02:15
skaetmicahg,  slangasek already queued up the respin,  its started now02:16
skaetit may need another to pick up the ubuntustudio-meta though due to timing,  that's all02:16
len-dtOK.02:17
skaetlen-dt, micahg - package looks ok.  it's approved02:17
skaetnot sure if it will build in time or not for the respin.02:18
skaetif its not included in the next set of images, ping on this channel and one of the release team will kick off the respin to pick it up.02:19
len-dtwill do, I'll test it tonight (PDT -700)02:19
skaetthanks02:19
len-dtNP02:19
slangasekhmm, why has the debian-installer publication not made it out to nusakan yet :P05:23
slangasekso the builds haven't started yet, because the trigger has thus far failed05:23
slangasekso good news for ubuntustudio, I guess05:23
slangasekbecause there was a stale lock file, sigh05:24
slangasekok, image builds starting now05:25
ScottKI guess that answers the question about if I should stay up and wait for a fresh build to do more testing tonight.05:37
slangasekapparently05:37
slangaseksorry :/05:37
ScottKNo problem.  Sleep is for the best anyway.05:42
stgraberslangasek: ok, I'll figure some way of doing a server install on that laptop later today or (more likely) tomorrow.08:10
xnoxslangasek: maybe we do have a couple ubiquity bugs: bug 1066347 bug 1066302 bug 106550208:19
ubot2Launchpad bug 1066347 in ubiquity ""Reinstall Ubuntu" failed - apt-clone crashes with: KeyError: "filename './etc/apt/sources.list' not found" line 1886 in getmember in tarfile.py" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106634708:19
ubot2Launchpad bug 1066302 in ubiquity "'update this installer' link on the welcome page shows no response to a mouse click" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106630208:19
ubot2Launchpad bug 1065502 in ubiquity "Ubiquity failed to proceed to partman, fails at replace recipe now..." [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106550208:19
xnoxthe middle one is funny... as the update this installer shouldn't be shown at all, because we did not trigger 0day ubiquity update.08:21
cjwatsonslangasek: keystatus and loadenv are simple and should be fine - adding those now.  I'm less sanguine about tftp; would rather do that at a bit more leisure.08:33
cjwatson^- cloud fix + secure boot fix.  The former at least needs a quick regression-test on real BIOS as well08:39
jibelslangasek, there are 2 bugs that are important when installing over an existing installation bug 1065502 and bug 106634708:46
ubot2Launchpad bug 1065502 in ubiquity "Ubiquity failed to proceed to partman, fails at replace recipe now..." [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106550208:46
ubot2Launchpad bug 1066347 in ubiquity ""Reinstall Ubuntu" failed - apt-clone crashes with: KeyError: "filename './etc/apt/sources.list' not found" line 1886 in getmember in tarfile.py" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106634708:46
jibelfirst one hangs the installer, second breaks the 'reinstall' functionality08:47
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xnoxcjwatson: doesn't loadenv -> reads & loads stuff from hard-drive & hence could be altered while machine is off leading to possibly doing something to bypass secure-boot or inject something?!12:30
jibelI reproduced bug 1066445 - fresh desktop installation with latest amd64 image12:35
ubot2Launchpad bug 1066445 in apt "Crashes doing update or upgrade operations" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106644512:35
ScottKThe massif-visualizer uploadis mine, so I can't accept it.  Should be an easy one for someone to review.12:53
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cjwatsonxnox: It reads environment variable settings, but that shouldn't let you execute arbitrary code before ExitBootServices.14:53
cjwatsondoko: Your cairo-5c sync FTBFS ...14:54
cjwatsonScottK: Accepted.  You can close bug 935294, I think.14:56
ubot2Launchpad bug 935294 in massif-visualizer "massif-visualizer version 0.3-0ubuntu1 FTBFS on armhf in precise" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93529414:56
cjwatsonxnox: Also, note that "arbitrary code" in this context specifically excludes being able to run arbitrary GRUB commands; we already know you can do that and the system is structured so that that should not be a problem.  It would only be a problem if you could somehow arrange to run arbitrary code which is not already exposed as commands.15:00
cjwatsonxnox: Remember that we *already* load /boot/grub/grub.cfg from the hard disk.15:00
skaetcjwatson,  would you mind turning off image erasing?   we're starting to stradle multiple days now and the historical ones may be useful.15:19
skaet(testing against at any rate)15:19
cjwatsondone15:19
hggdhanyone confirmedhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1066480 ?15:19
ubot2Launchpad bug 1066480 in ubiquity "12.10 installer don't show encrypted partitions" [Undecided,New]15:19
cjwatson(not available for most of rest of today)15:19
skaetthanks cjwatson15:21
ScottKcjwatson: Thanks.  Forgot about the bug.16:02
hggdhwhy is 'ubuntu' considered a weak password for an user, and a fair password for disk encryption?16:03
skaetScottK, stgraber, slangasek, infinity -  can one of you take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1066445?   we may need to revert that last apt upload.16:27
ubot2Launchpad bug 1066445 in apt "apt-get crashed with SIGSEGV in pkgCacheGenerator::ListParser::NewProvides()" [Critical,Confirmed]16:27
hggdhskaet: is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1066480 important enough?16:29
ubot2Launchpad bug 1066480 in ubiquity "12.10 installer don't show encrypted partitions" [Undecided,Confirmed]16:29
skaethggdh,  ugh.   not recognizing there's data there isn't good.  :P16:32
hggdhmy thought also... adding to the pad16:32
skaetam marking it critical for now.   slangasek may modify that - but want it looked at as soon as possible.16:33
hggdhpad-added16:34
hggdhskaet: I cannot reproduce 1066445, and I do have main, universe, multiverse, partners in the source.list16:37
skaethggdh,  interesting.    update from fresh install of precise?16:41
skaetwhat did you start from?16:41
hggdhskaet: I was already on quantal. I think this may be the difference16:54
hggdhI can try from precise16:55
dokocjwatson, known (as it was ftbfs before too), this was just for cleaning up the source package.17:00
jibelskaet, it is not reproducible on every system. I haven't found a pattern yet but got it on hardware and VM, fresh installation, all amd6417:04
jibel(re. 1066445)17:04
hggdhjibel: were you upgrading?17:06
jibelhggdh, no, right after a fresh installation17:10
hggdhok so I am without a failure indeed17:14
infinitycjwatson: Accepted grub2, and uploaded a grub2-signed to go with it.17:20
infinity(If anyone else wants to let the -signed through...)17:20
xnoxhggdh: actually both passwords use the same algo, so actually passwords should be reported as "the same strengthness"17:21
hggdhxnox: somehow they are still shown as fair and weak. So... bug on it17:21
xnoxcjwatson: ok, thanks for explanation.17:22
xnoxabout bug 1066480. There is currently no UI to activate encrypted partitions (but partman can do it) but the other thing is that there is no ui nor partman functionality to de-activate encrypted partitions, which maybe desired for wipe & reinstall. Maybe we need to release note it.17:25
ubot2Launchpad bug 1066480 in ubiquity "12.10 installer don't show encrypted partitions" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106648017:25
hggdhxnox: and, on a server install, both passwords are shown as 'weak'17:32
xnoxhggdh: yes file bug. ubiquity != server cd. Ubiquity and debian-installer use different algorithms.17:32
hggdhack17:33
hggdhwill repeat to capture the data (original install is long gone)17:33
phillwinfinity: could you take a look at bug 1066435 thanks17:39
ubot2Launchpad bug 1066435 in debian-installer "Debian-installer powerpc recursive fault" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106643517:39
skaetinfinity, accepted grub2-signed17:43
skaetlamont,  jibel saw the failure on hardware and VM,  fresh installation,  all amd64.  hggdh hasn't been able to see it though.   what are the specifics of the system you saw 1066445 on?17:58
lamontskaet: I'd have to dig a bit, but I'm pretty sure this was an install from this year, call it precise, amd64, real hw.  do-release-upgraded to quantal at beta(1?), and dist-upgraded pretty much daily since then.  has quantal{,-{security,updates}} {main,universe,multiverse} (I should add restricted...sigh), as well as a ppa or 218:01
lamontand a local arhcive18:01
lamontthe mirror I hit is synced from us.archive at :50 each hour18:01
skaetthanks lamont, can you add that to the bug, so we see if we can get the pattern figured out?18:02
lamontsure18:02
skaethggdh - can you add the details of the configurations you've tried that work to it as well?   would like to get as much of the data summarized in one place as possible.18:02
skaetthanks lamont18:02
lamontposted, with spell checking, even18:07
skaet:)18:12
hggdhskaet: added. I do get it with main, universe enabled18:29
skaetthanks hggdh18:29
slangasekcjwatson: tftp> ack :)18:35
slangasekcjwatson: there's no hurry, I'm still trying to prove to myself that I can actually get a working system using tftp18:35
lamontslangasek: working how?18:37
slangasekxnox: I was asking specifically about the bug that jibel said was still present after you fixed it... was that bug #1065502?18:37
ubot2Launchpad bug 1065502 in ubiquity "Ubiquity failed to proceed to partman, fails at replace recipe now..." [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106550218:37
slangaseklamont: grub2 efi tftp18:37
lamontah18:37
lamontthat fails on my caring-scale18:37
slangaseklamont: with grub.cfg and kernel all loaded via tftp from grub, not bundled in a memdisk18:37
lamontat least for the moment18:38
xnoxslangasek: it's a newly introduced bug, but has similar symptoms.18:38
slangasekxnox: hmm, ok18:38
xnoxslangasek: the root cause is unclean unmounting of the /target resulting with "journal replay required" on first mount.18:38
xnoxslangasek: which is cleared if you at least boot your system once, but not fine if you don't.18:39
slangasekxnox: ah; so this is only a problem for people who are serial installers?18:39
xnoxit needs to be digged into why we are leaving the filesystem dirty at the end.18:39
xnox=)))))))18:39
xnoxyes.18:39
xnoxor force power-cycle shutdowners.18:40
slangasekxnox: then that shouldn't justify a respin on its own if that's the worst of the symptoms.  Unclean unmounting is obviously not good though, so please chase it up18:40
xnoxack. ok.18:40
slangasekskaet: the latest upload of apt only pulls in translation updates.  whatever this bug is, there's nothing to suggest it's tied to the latest upload (and therefore there's nothing to revert), nor evidence that it's widespread.18:47
slangasekskaet: well, modulo the fact that jibel and lamont both mention in scrollback that they're seeing it.18:48
slangasekskaet: anyway, the fact that a revert doesn't help still stands18:49
jibelslangasek, I have an easy test case for the apt bug: default install with free software enabled. Then all apps that depends on libapt will crash.19:10
slangasekjibel: except hggdh says he couldn't reproduce it?19:10
jibelslangasek, he said he did in comments 13 and 1419:12
slangasekah, ok19:12
slangasekjibel: could you attach the sources.list (+sources.list.d) from this system?  may help to reproduce it more quickly19:13
slangasekalso, the /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin that I asked for in the last comment19:13
jibelslangasek, it's uploading19:20
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jibelremoving the cache files does just make apt crash later when it recreates them.19:23
skaetslangasek,   that was my understanding too, however the timing does seem a bit suspect.19:31
skaethowever,  finding root cause is the key at this point.19:32
jibelslangasek, done uploading, it's enough to copy the sources.list file attached to the bug report to an existing system to reproduce the crash.19:32
hggdhskaet: bug 1066556 should be either looked at, or release-noted. Which one?19:58
ubot2Launchpad bug 1066556 in debian-installer "MAAS install via d-i/tasksel fails whe opening the browser to /MAAS" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106655619:58
cjwatsonserver team should look at that20:38
cjwatsonskaet: if the timing of the apt upload is relevant, then since there are no source changes other than translations, it must be because *any* upload (and hence recompile) would have broken it; and therefore a revert won't help20:39
cjwatsonbut it could be something to do with the content of the Packages/Sources files20:39
cjwatsoninfinity: Thanks.  I was going to fiddle with grub2-signed to make sure it fetches binaries from -proposed - I suspect it might fail to build until grub2 hits release (which it probably shouldn't)20:41
cjwatsonI'll sort that out tomorrow morning if nobody else has20:41
cjwatsonYeah, I can reproduce this with jibel's sources.list, though not with what I had in my sbuild chroots20:58
skaetcjwatson,  understand.21:00
* cjwatson attempts a debug build21:01
cjwatsonoh, for crying out loud, goes away when I try to debug it21:15
cjwatsonI suppose that's to be expected for something introduced by a no-relevant-changes upload21:16
cjwatsonoh, I forgot to put the relevant sources.list in place, whoops21:18
cjwatsonOK, reproduced with a debug build now, which'll help21:24
cjwatsonAnd under valgrind21:28
cjwatson(But not desperately helpfully)21:28
cjwatsonGod I hate C++21:30
cjwatsonAnd it's all tied up in the cacheiterators stuff which I've never really understood at the best of times21:38
cjwatsonOverly-clever Jason C++21:38
cjwatsonAh - well, it'll take me a bit longer to actually fix it, but I've tracked it down to excruciatingly unlucky timing of cache remapping in a function unequipped to handle it22:14
cjwatsonSo yeah, pretty sure reverting apt will make no difference worth mentioning22:15
cjwatsonUnfortunately there may be a hard-to-resolve upgrade problem with old versions of apt; don't know what we can do about that short of (a) randomly permute size of cache by continuing normal development (b) SRU whatever fix we come up with22:16
cjwatsonAnd possibly (c) release-note instructions for manually installing new apt22:16
* cjwatson gets a feel for the pattern of working code now22:33
skaetcjwatson,  thanks for tracking that down.   Release noting is probably prudent based on the scenario you describe.22:35
cjwatsonFairly sure http://paste.ubuntu.com/1280162/ is the fix, or something very like it22:37
cjwatsonThe problem was that Prv->ProvideVersion was evaluated before the function assigning to it, which, in some very rare cases, changes Prv22:38
cjwatsonskaet: would you mind setting up a release notes task on that bug?  I haven't kept track of the current method for doing that22:39
skaetcjwatson, will do.22:43
cjwatsonthanks22:44
skaetcjwatson, release note task added, and have gone ahead and put bug and instructions on doing the manual update in the CommonInfrastructure  known issues section.23:09
cjwatsonapt fix on its way to -proposed now - please review.  Sorry for the giant po/ diff but I believe it's all just trivial line number changes and other similar rearrangements.  The previous uploader mustn't have used 'bzr bd -S', I guess.23:10
cjwatsonskaet: Yeah, that won't work :)23:11
cjwatsonIf 'apt-get install apt' worked this wouldn't be hard23:11
skaetcjwatson,  ah well, I hoped.   Adjust as needed.23:12
cjwatsonreverted to an XXX comment for now23:12
skaetk23:13
cjwatsonOh, thinking about it, I bet fiddling with APT::Cache-Start would work around it23:16
cjwatsonToo tired to write coherent release notes at the moment but let me quickly test that before bed while the problem is still reproducible23:16
cjwatsonRight, yeah, that worked fine.  Workaround in the bug now.23:26

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