[02:14] <ali1234> how do i configure lamp to send emails "properly"?
[02:15] <ali1234> it's identifying itself with the contents of /etc/hostname which remote servers are rejecting
[02:15] <ali1234> i want it to use the domain of the vhost...
[02:15] <ali1234> ip address would also work i suppose
[02:15] <ali1234> then i need to set up a SPF record
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[02:39] <Azelphur> ali1234: I bet that's why my sites emails always get spamboxed
[02:39]  * Azelphur shall have to check that
[02:40] <ali1234> http://askubuntu.com/questions/200835/how-to-configure-apache-php-postfix-website-emails-when-using-vhosts
[02:40] <Azelphur> fun
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[08:28] <bootljhfdsds> mornin'
[08:50] <Myrtti> time of day
[08:52] <AlanBell> anyone else got an MTP music player that won't sync with rhythmbox
[08:52] <AlanBell> or show up in banshee
[08:57] <Myrtti> my Galaxy Nexus doesn't
[08:57] <Myrtti> I'm not sure if it's because it's encrypted or because 12.04 is flaky
[08:57] <MartijnVdS> nah
[08:58] <MartijnVdS> it's because the MTP implementation is "dumb"
[08:58] <Myrtti> there's bugs for it in launchpad
[08:58] <MartijnVdS> it tries to enumerate all files on the device on mount
[08:59] <MartijnVdS> http://intr.overt.org/blog/?p=153
[08:59] <Myrtti> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libmtp/+bug/903422
[08:59] <MartijnVdS> + https://github.com/philipl/gvfs
[08:59] <lubotu3> Ubuntu bug 903422 in gvfs "Ubuntu does not work with Samsung Galaxy phones (needs update to libmtp)" [Wishlist,In progress]
[09:01] <MartijnVdS> Myrtti: that's also linked in the upstreeam bug - https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=666195
[09:01] <lubotu3> Gnome bug 666195 in general "Mount / Provide access to Android 4 (Ice Cream Sandwich, ICS) MTP devices" [Enhancement,Assigned]
[09:06] <Myrtti> well effectively the only way of getting files into my phone is to use Bluetooth.
[09:06] <Myrtti> which is more or less unreliable
[09:07] <dwatkins> Myrtti: can't you use AirDroid or similar?
[09:07] <Myrtti> dwatkins: I categorically refuse to install extra software when things should just work
[09:08] <dwatkins> Myrtti: I see your point, and respect it greatly.
[09:08] <AlanBell> yeah, I agree Myrtti
[09:08] <MartijnVdS> Myrtti: you could run Git gvfs + Philip's patch + git libmtp
[09:09] <dwatkins> Did Samsung break something about filesystem support over USB, then?
[09:09] <AlanBell> it works *perfectly* for a few CDs but then you try to add more and it falls apart
[09:09] <AlanBell> MTP isn't a filesystem protocol as such
[09:09] <Myrtti> dwatkins: it's more about not having an microSD card and having only one filesystem
[09:09] <dwatkins> oh I see
[09:10] <Myrtti> dwatkins: the mass memory can't be offered for USB the same time the phone is on and used by the OS
[09:10] <Myrtti> so they need MTP for it.
[09:10] <christel> i keep reading MTP as MLP and it totally messes with my brain because it has now convinced itself that you're a brony AlanBell :/
[09:10]  * AlanBell goes to google to find out what christel is on about
[09:11] <AlanBell> oh, right
[09:11] <AlanBell> err no, not a brony
[09:11] <dwatkins> hehehe
[09:11]  * dwatkins hands christel some candyfloss
[09:11] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: Don't you watch the show with your kids?
[09:11] <dwatkins> I should catch up on MLP, havn't seen it in a while.
[09:12] <christel> dwatkins: thank you! ;)
[09:12] <Myrtti> the main reason why I don't like installing extra software is a habit from when I had Nexus One, it was chronically low on memory so extra apps didn't fit
[09:13] <dwatkins> yeah, I had that trouble with the Nexus One also. I do prefer when things work properly out of the box.
[09:13] <MartijnVdS> I tend to not install a lot of apps either
[09:13] <MartijnVdS> and then my dad complained about his phone being slow...
[09:13] <dwatkins> does having a lot of apps slow a phone down, or is it more that they're running (in the background)?
[09:14] <MartijnVdS> dwatkins: lots of apps come with crapware that runs in the back and shows ads
[09:14] <dwatkins> Presumably there are some which run as a service, like AirDroid, which slow things down.
[09:14] <MartijnVdS> and ads = data traffic = battery
[09:14] <AlanBell> I think I have a sufficiently high version of libmtp
[09:15] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: 1.1.4 or higher?
[09:15] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: it also needs a git + custom patch version of libgvfs
[09:15] <AlanBell> !info libmtp9
[09:15] <lubotu3> libmtp9 (source: libmtp): Media Transfer Protocol (MTP) library. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.3-1ubuntu0.1 (precise), package size 130 kB, installed size 359 kB
[09:15] <AlanBell> !info libmtp9 quantal
[09:15] <lubotu3> libmtp9 (source: libmtp): Media Transfer Protocol (MTP) library. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.4-1 (quantal), package size 132 kB, installed size 341 kB
[09:15] <AlanBell> I have 1.1.4-1
[09:16] <AlanBell> do I need the patched gvfs for rhythmbox?
[09:16] <MartijnVdS> yes
[09:16] <AlanBell> grumble grumble should be in quantal grumble
[09:16] <MartijnVdS> it's a rewrite of the GVFS mtp subsystem to not do the equivalent of "ls -lR" when a device is mounted
[09:16] <MartijnVdS> (but instead just request files as necessary)
[09:17] <MartijnVdS> because that's why it hangs/timeouts: it's getting file info on EVERY file and dir on the device
[09:17] <MartijnVdS> and maybe even setting up change monitoring on them..
[09:17] <AlanBell> yeah, I ended up using go-mtp and doing rm -rf on the music folder of the device to clear it out so it would sync again
[09:18] <AlanBell> which got about a GB of stuff on it, but it seemed only a few tracks of each CD
[09:18] <AlanBell> 55 CDs doesn't seem like an unreasonable amount, we probably have 100 or so in total
[09:19] <MartijnVdS> it is not
[09:19] <AlanBell> so, I compile https://github.com/philipl/gvfs then rhythmbox starts working?
[09:20] <MartijnVdS> but as the gvfs code is enumerating EVERY file (music or not) on the device before you can use it
[09:20] <MartijnVdS> it should yes
[09:20] <MartijnVdS> well
[09:20] <AlanBell> cool, I will try that
[09:20] <MartijnVdS> compile, install (make sure you can uninstall), etc.
[09:20] <AlanBell> yeah, will do
[09:20] <AlanBell> then I will try it on my clean SSD
[09:21] <Wobbo> Wat is een goed vervanging dan "EOG afbeeldingenweergave".
[09:21] <Wobbo> Aangezien nu al maanden lang een bug heeft die niet opgelost wordt. Heb ik een andere nodig.
[09:23] <AlanBell> hello Wobbo
[09:23] <MartijnVdS> Wobbo: Verkeerde taal :)
[09:23] <MartijnVdS> Wobbo: dit is het Engelse kanaal
[09:23] <Wobbo> Lol
[09:23] <Wobbo> No problem... Sorry.
[09:24] <MartijnVdS> Wobbo: which EOG bug is that?
[09:24] <Wobbo> That bug is still not fixed.
[09:25] <MartijnVdS> Which bug though?
[09:25] <MartijnVdS> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eog has the list of reported eog bugs
[09:27] <Wobbo> I am using 3x 1080x1920 screens using AMD.
[09:28]  * AlanBell dislikes the mystery dependency hunt when compiling things
[09:29] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: apt-get build-dep libgvfs
[09:29] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: that should get you the basics
[09:29] <Wobbo> somehow all jpeg's wil stay color white.
[09:29] <AlanBell> MartijnVdS: cool, I found it, was  libgcrypt11-dev mostly
[09:29] <AlanBell> but it doesn't make
[09:30] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: apt-get source libgvfs, look in debian/rules for the ./configure line
[09:30] <AlanBell> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1278651/
[09:30] <Wobbo> PNG's are still working.
[09:30] <MartijnVdS> Wobbo: Have you filed a bug report, so people can work on a fix?
[09:31] <Wobbo> Where en how?
[09:32] <MartijnVdS> Wobbo: from the command line: ubuntu-bug eog
[09:32] <MartijnVdS> Wobbo: or look if it has already been reported on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eog and mark yourself as "also affected"
[09:32] <AlanBell>  /o\ http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=672099
[09:33] <lubotu3> Debian bug 672099 in src:gvfs "gvfs: FTBFS: gvfsafpvolume.c:1085:3: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type" [Serious,Fixed]
[09:33] <Wobbo> LibreOffice has problems whit my resolution (3x 1080x1920).
[09:33] <MartijnVdS> Wobbo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eog/+bug/938751
[09:33] <lubotu3> Ubuntu bug 938751 in eog (Ubuntu Precise) "jpeg images are washed out or colors are skewed " [Low,Confirmed]
[09:33] <MartijnVdS> Wobbo: it might be a video driver bug then
[09:33] <AlanBell> will try again later, sounds like some tricky merging of stuff will be in order
[09:39] <Wobbo> Is there an alternative then eog?
[09:39] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[09:49] <Wobbo> Why cant i install https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eog the latest version: 3.6.0: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/eog_3.6.0-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[09:49] <brobostigon> Wobbo: easiest, might be to add the gnome3-teams ppa, and install from there.
[09:55] <Wobbo> ppa:gnome3-teams of  ppa:ubuntugnometeam/gnome3 ?
[09:56] <brobostigon> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/gnome3-team/gnome3/ubuntu quantal main
[10:02] <Wobbo> All update ar not possible.
[10:03] <brobostigon> did you change quantal to the ubuntu version you are running, and added it to your software sources properly?
[10:05] <Wobbo> Yes, there are a lot of updates now, but
[10:05] <brobostigon> Wobbo: yes, as that repo contains the whole of gnome3, and its apps.
[10:06] <brobostigon> Wobbo: just update EOG, then disable the repo again.
[10:06] <Wobbo> not all are possible. And after to fix it, it returns that isn’t possible.
[10:07] <brobostigon> Wobbo: yes, that is normal, due to some possible package clashes.
[10:08] <popey> morning all
[10:08] <brobostigon> morning popey
[10:14] <Wobbo> Same where updated but there are still a lot left.
[10:14] <Wobbo> Those are not selectable.
[10:15] <Wobbo> And i do not see anything about EOG 3.6.0
[10:17] <brobostigon> let me check here, it should be in there.
[10:20]  * AlanBell fixes gvfs with one &
[10:20] <Wobbo> nope nothing about EOG has an update.
[10:22] <Wobbo> If I throw away gnome3-teams I get more problems then be full
[10:23] <Wobbo> be full
[10:24] <Wobbo> How to get gnome3-teams away again?
[10:25] <brobostigon> you are right, the newsest i can see here, is in the quantal main repo.
[10:26] <brobostigon> Wobbo: you can just disable the repo, and then apt-get update, to rebuild your package lists.
[10:26] <AlanBell> sudo ppa-purge ppa:ubuntugnometeam/gnome3
[10:26] <AlanBell> that is how to undo a PPA
[10:27] <brobostigon> thank you AlanBell , i didnt think of that.
[10:27] <Wobbo> the only simple thing I need is to see JPEG again
[10:27] <AlanBell> Wobbo: got a link to a PDF that doesn't display right?
[10:28] <AlanBell> oh, sorry eog, not evince
[10:28] <AlanBell> err, what is wrong with it Wobbo? displays jpegs just fine for me on quantal
[10:32] <Wobbo> There is a bug for my resolution.
[10:33] <Wobbo> I need another software than EOG...
[10:33] <Wobbo> So, what is the best other software than EOG. Just to see pictures.
[10:34] <Wobbo> nothing more nothing less
[10:35] <Wobbo> and I'll just wait until it's fixed
[10:36] <Wobbo> but until that time I need any other software to do it
[10:36] <Wobbo> but until that time I need any other software to do it
[10:36] <Wobbo> sorry
[10:41]  * popey looks at prices for mSATA drives
[10:45] <AlanBell> Wobbo: what is wrong with it?
[10:45] <danawar2> Hey ubuntu uk i am unable to download ubuntu from the website is there another location i can download ubuntu 12.04:32 from?
[10:45] <soreau> !torrent
[10:45] <lubotu3> Some torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus/Vuse (Java), !Frostwire (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/help/faq - See also !P2P
[10:46] <AlanBell> http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04.1/
[10:46] <soreau> !download
[10:46] <lubotu3> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Precise, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[10:46] <soreau> !torrents
[10:46] <lubotu3> Precise can be torrented from http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/precise/desktop/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/precise/server/ubuntu-12.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your needs. Other flavors can be found at http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969
[10:46] <AlanBell> MartijnVdS: I think I have installed the patched gvfs and restarted but it doesn't work again
[10:47] <AlanBell> you would think Canonical would be all over this if they are targetting consumers
[10:48] <soreau> Depends on what you mean by customers
[10:48] <soreau> canonical seems to be selling out more and more every year
[10:48] <AlanBell> consumers/home users
[10:49] <soreau> It seems they're only worried about appeasing customers (such as Dell and anyone that pays them through a contract)
[10:50] <popey> that's flat out not true
[10:50] <soreau> it used to not be as true
[10:50] <AlanBell> even if it was true, I would be fine if it worked :)
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[10:54] <AlanBell> rhythmbox works well for a couple of CDs but trying to sync more than that results in so many popup error messages that gtk-window-decorator crashes
[10:56] <AlanBell> you can just see the shadow of the error message get darker and darker as they build up :(
[10:57] <czajkowski> morning
[10:58] <brobostigon> morning czajkowski
[10:58] <lmp> morning
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[11:02] <danfish> hi, it's been a while
[11:02] <brobostigon> hi danfish
[11:03] <brobostigon> wb danfish :)
[11:03] <danfish> :)
[11:07] <AlanBell> hi danfish
[11:07] <AlanBell> joining us next thursday?
[11:08] <brobostigon> what is the empathy-telepathy package to talk to bonjour, that local network jabber thingie.?
[11:09] <danfish> AlanBell: would love to, but have to work :(
[11:10] <danfish> hope the chickens are all well
[11:10] <AlanBell> they are, I have just been clearing up poop in the garden
[11:10] <MartijnVdS> is that a threat? :P
[11:11] <AlanBell> you would think I pooped it myself given the conversation that preceeded the cleanup
[11:11] <AlanBell> how are the ducks?
[11:12] <danfish> very well
[11:13] <danfish> peking and crispy are producing eggs ++
[11:13] <AlanBell> eggcellent
[11:17] <danfish> getting a couple of goslings next month
[11:19] <AlanBell> oh that is cool
[11:19] <AlanBell> they won't be ready for christmas then :)
[11:20] <danfish> heh!
[11:21] <danfish> my dad used to buy a turkey 'teenager' and fatten it up for xmas. Stupid animals.
[11:25] <danfish> hmm, do-release-upgrade -d isn't showing 12.10
[11:25] <popey> it wont if you have update manager set to LTS only
[11:26] <popey> see /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[11:28] <danfish> ah - my bad. Thanks!
[11:28] <czajkowski> danfish: was just thinking I'd not seen you around lately
[11:31]  * MartijnVdS plans his Cornwall holiday a bit more
[11:33] <danfish> czajkowski: true. hope you're good. Weird few months but normality being restored
[11:34] <danfish> MartijnVdS: the eden project is aces1
[11:34] <MartijnVdS> danfish: It's on my list :)
[11:37] <MartijnVdS> I hope the weather will be like the weather is on Google Streetview
[11:37] <MartijnVdS> I'll be going in the same week as those pictures were taken
[11:40] <danfish> MartijnVdS: the weather here is amazing today. Simply stunning. I hope you get the same.
[11:43]  * AlanBell deletes all music on the nexus and tries again with a fresh clean Quantal
[11:49] <AlanBell> 716 out of 723 songs transferred
[11:49] <bigcalm> Ello peeps
[11:50] <bigcalm> AlanBell: that's a lot of Justine Bieber bootlegs you have
[11:51] <AlanBell> heh, the little known big sister
[11:51] <danfish> AlanBell: Neil Diamond?
[11:51] <AlanBell> danfish: yes, that is in there
[11:52] <AlanBell> bit curious why I have three copies of Queen greatest hits 2
[11:53] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: because you love it VERY much?
[11:53] <AlanBell> three copies of greatest hits 1 I could understand
[11:55] <danfish> AlanBell: any Scissor Sisters and Elton John per chance?
[11:55] <AlanBell> yes,yes
[11:55] <AlanBell> but only one scissor sisters track
[11:57] <danfish> I don't feel like dancing?
[11:57] <AlanBell> we're not gonna take it
[11:58] <MartijnVdS> gangnam style?
[11:58] <AlanBell> nope, not got that
[11:59] <MartijnVdS> One Direction?
[11:59] <AlanBell> dunno, I have a JLS cd, not sure I have 1D
[11:59] <AlanBell> both are in the "kids like it" area
[12:02] <christel> uh huh :P
[12:04] <AlanBell> as is the "pop princesses" cd
[12:04] <AlanBell> nothing to do with me, that one
[12:04] <MartijnVdS> only on sunday afternoons, right
[12:12] <bootljhfdsds> I'm looking for the Weekly *video from Distrowatch* .. does anybody have the weblink ?
[12:12] <bootljhfdsds> AlanBell, , the LUG starts next week in Douglas, I hope it all goes well...
[12:21] <AlanBell> yeah, hope so
[12:30] <penguin42> bootljhfdsds: IoMLug?
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[14:45] <DJones> Daft question, but following Baumgartner's skydive where he's hoping to fall from 23 miles above ground level, what happens to to the ballon & capsule? Do they stay up there, or crash land on somebody's house
[14:46] <AlanBell> isn't he doing it in Australia?
[14:47] <Pendulum> AlanBell: New Mexico
[14:47] <AlanBell> oh, slightly out then :)
[14:47] <DJones> Its close
[14:47] <Pendulum> tbh, I think it's really being done in an area of New Mexico that's mostly desert
[14:48] <AlanBell> oh, he is Austrian, thats where my head went wrong
[14:48] <penguin42> very similar :-)
[14:48] <DJones> Pendulum: Yeah, but you know the proverb about butterflies flapping their wings affecting the weather, one gust of wind & he could end up in Australia :)
[14:49] <Pendulum> haha
[14:55] <andyc> DJones, I dont know for certain but I'd say the balloon will burst and the capsule will drop down with a parachute
[14:55] <andyc> Like one of those weather balloons people are so fond of attaching GPS and a camera to these days
[14:59] <apacheuk> wasn't there another famous weather balloon crash in Roswell, New Mexico? :)
[15:00] <MartijnVdS> ಠ_ಠ
[15:02]  * AlanBell files an interesting banshee bug
[15:02] <MartijnVdS> What's wrong?
[15:03] <AlanBell> will show you in a bit
[15:07] <AlanBell> bug 1066519
[15:07] <lubotu3> Launchpad bug 1066519 in banshee (Ubuntu) "wrong title in context menu when using two CD drives" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1066519
[15:18] <bootljhfdsds> penguin42, Yes indeedy-do.
[15:18] <penguin42> bootljhfdsds: Apologies from the Manchester Lug (ManLUG) for taking your name :-)
[15:19] <bootljhfdsds> penguin42, That's fine... I think that's really manchester's anyway.
[15:20] <bootljhfdsds> I takle it that there are more than afew LUG's in the Northwest ??
[15:20] <bootljhfdsds> **take it
[15:21] <penguin42> yes
[15:21] <jacobw> there's quite a lot in the north east too
[15:21] <bootljhfdsds> I've heard of a Blackpool one.
[15:22] <bootljhfdsds> mmmph.. What other LUG's are in the North West. ??
[15:22] <penguin42> bootljhfdsds: I think there is a liverpool one; I don't know of others
[15:23] <penguin42> I know of a sheffield one just over the boundary in Yorkshire
[15:23] <bootljhfdsds> I think there is an East Lancs one.
[15:23] <jacobw> BradLUG, WYLUG, Huddersfield LUG, Sheffield LUG, York LUG
[15:23] <bootljhfdsds> Is there a Carlaisle one (soz 4 spelling)
[15:24] <bootljhfdsds> ?
[15:25] <jacobw> might be too small an area
[15:25] <bootljhfdsds> Funny thing.. I found a redbrick house for £22k a year ago .. but because I couldn't find a LUG in the area .. I said No.
[15:26] <jacobw> 22k?
[15:26] <bootljhfdsds> yep .. rightmove was it ?
[15:27] <jacobw> probably :)
[15:27] <bootljhfdsds> **rightmove.co.uk i think ??
[15:27] <jacobw> i just spend a few minutes at google trying to spell carlisle
[15:29] <bootljhfdsds> anyway, we're looking to indulge in plenty of cakes .. Anyone know of any new one's .. We've only a Tesco here.
[15:30] <bootljhfdsds> **   ??
[15:31] <bootljhfdsds> Well anyway .. I saw they do a hardcore line in cupcakes these days .. so that is the default.
[15:33] <bootljhfdsds> :)
[15:35] <jacobw> sounds good
[15:36] <SuperEngineer> BBC 24 news now... Roswell sky dive live [Baumgartner is currently climbing]
[15:38] <penguin42> SuperEngineer: http://www.redbullstratos.com/live/
[15:38] <SuperEngineer> cheers penguin42
[15:38] <penguin42> still looks like he's got quite a way to go up first
[15:39] <SuperEngineer> 2 hours clim yet
[15:39] <SuperEngineer> *climb
[15:40] <Pendulum> DJones: the online feed just answered your recovery question
[15:41] <bootljhfdsds> yes I did see that a while ago on youtube .. 2 hours climb .. still better than The Z Factor.
[15:42] <SuperEngineer> seems so sad to see Endevour with it's windows blocked out, crawling through L.A. whilst 1 single man flies up in a ballon
[15:42] <MartijnVdS> SuperEngineer: it's the American way
[15:42] <SuperEngineer> ...loke the blindfold of a man against a firing squad :(
[15:42] <bootljhfdsds> I think they had a close miss going thru LA according to Yahoo news.
[15:43] <penguin42> there was a great LA picture somewhere taken from behind some houses where you can see some kids playing basketball and peeping through a gap in the houses you can see the shuttle going past
[15:44] <SuperEngineer> bootljhfdsds: I think it safe to assume an emergeny stop didn't take same distance as a car does!
[15:44] <MartijnVdS> SuperEngineer: not a drive-by shooting?
[15:44] <bootljhfdsds> true.
[15:44] <andyc> Does anyone every experience tab flickering when using a maximised chromium window?
[15:44] <SuperEngineer> MartijnVdS: very apt ;)
[15:44] <penguin42> bootljhfdsds:    https://plus.google.com/photos/+GuyKawasaki/albums/5798978099058303329/5798978100863669698   (shuttle)
[15:45] <andyc> This is in unity in 12.10 beta with all updates installed
[15:45] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: WHY would basketball be cooler than a space shuttle going by your house?!
[15:45] <penguin42> MartijnVdS: No, I don't get it either, but it's a great shot
[15:45] <MartijnVdS> it is
[15:47] <SuperEngineer> latest news .... space shuttlew drops the blindfold, sees kids playing basketball & flips a wing to knock them over... "oi! I'm over hear" Endevour shouts
[15:49] <SuperEngineer> ...then cops put blindfold back on shuttle, & make Endevour continue it's death march
[15:54]  * bigcalm returns from yet another wedding fair
[15:54] <bigcalm> Getting married is such an ordeal
[15:56] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: your own, or someone else's? :)
[15:56] <bigcalm> My own wedding, this sort of time next year
[15:59] <penguin42> bigcalm: so you don't fancy a nice simple one and a quick snack from the local takeaway; a lot easier?
[16:03] <bigcalm> :S
[16:47] <SuperEngineer> yea gads! you go a quick bath whilst Baumgartner's climbing... & what happens... flash crashes & takes t'internet conxn with it.  Not impressed.
[16:57] <jacobw> how would flash crashing take the network stack with it?
[16:59] <n1_> hi. anyone using vodafone dongle to connect? how can i check if it is in usb or network mode (as usb modeswitch alread y comes preinstalled)?
[16:59] <SuperEngineer> jacobw: it seems it was other way round, t'internet conxn failed, so flash called it a crash...
[17:00]  * MartijnVdS goes to poke at his internet connection
[17:00] <SuperEngineer>  me just - still... silly flash for recognising something I didn't recognise instantly either ;)
[17:07] <MartijnVdS> I really really hope those fibre people come next month
[17:07] <MartijnVdS> DSL just dropped another 2 mbtis
[17:07] <MartijnVdS> mbits
[17:10]  * SuperEngineer blames solar maximum... broadband been droppng & now 3 mobile [normally reliable fast fallback] keeps dropping
[17:10] <MartijnVdS> SuperEngineer: nah, I blame my coworkers :)
[17:10] <SuperEngineer> MartijnVdS: lol
[17:11] <MartijnVdS> SuperEngineer: I work at my ISP.. I've checked the systems, they put a new "profile" on the line, one that lowers the speed more agressively
[17:11] <MartijnVdS> (so bad lines are more stable)
[17:11] <SuperEngineer> MartijnVdS: hmmmmmmm
[17:17]  * SuperEngineer wonders if Baumgartner proves a human can safely break sound barrier SuperEngineer can argue that UK m'way speed limit *is* too low
[17:17] <SuperEngineer> [which - in case- is a *very* variable spped limit] ;)
[17:18] <SuperEngineer> *speed
[17:22] <penguin42> that page is starting to get jittery for me
[17:23]  * SuperEngineer wonders if apple are using the live redbullstratos feed to improve their mapping 
[17:25] <MartijnVdS> SuperEngineer: no, just to make it worse
[17:26] <popey> no video here
[17:26] <MartijnVdS> SuperEngineer: "In 3 miles, go up into the stratosphere"
[17:26] <SuperEngineer> MartijnVdS: :D
[17:27] <SuperEngineer> MartijnVdS: "please enter your desired destination"... please .... no!
[17:29] <SuperEngineer> popey: you trying to waTCH redbullstratos?
[17:29] <popey> ya
[17:29] <SuperEngineer> it is getting close to point of max height - could be a case of site full... refresh?
[17:31] <SuperEngineer> popey:  failing success... try beeb or sky, they keep cutting back to it when relevant
[17:31] <popey> live stream on bbc website works fine
[17:32] <SuperEngineer> cool
[17:32] <penguin42> SuperEngineer: Hmm I wonder whether there is actually a bug with a long running live stream; quitting/restarting mine has helped
[17:32] <SuperEngineer> penguin42: ditto
[17:32] <SuperEngineer> [bet it stalls just when he jumps]
[17:34] <popey> bah, need to put kids to bed
[17:35] <SuperEngineer> yea gads! he's nearly as high as I got in my youth schmoking things not necessarily sold by tobacco companies! ;)
[17:36] <SuperEngineer> popey: would you have sent them bed during 1st moon landing?  force them to stay away
[17:37] <SuperEngineer> from bed
[17:38]  * SuperEngineer just realised... he's still not as high as a certain person at Canonical went!
[17:41] <popey> phew!
[17:41] <penguin42> SuperEngineer: Well, I guess that's your canonical height reference
[17:51] <DJones> SuperEngineer: Yeah, but since one of Pans people is going that high........ What does that say
[17:53] <SuperEngineer> DJones: hmmmmmm
[17:53]  * SuperEngineer liked 1 of Pan's peeps quite a lot
[18:00] <DJones> I wonder if Baumgartner packed his own parachute?
[18:04] <SuperEngineer> DJones: ooo... don't say that! I've suffered that fate once myself!
[18:05] <SuperEngineer> ["oh drat, oh darn" I recall saying as a candle appeared my head!]
[18:07] <SuperEngineer> go Felix go! & may the Gods speed you safely
[18:08] <Pendulum> I wonder if his mother was actually able to watch the first part of that fall.
[18:09] <SuperEngineer> 690mph!
[18:18] <DJones> The first part of the fall was probably the easiest, I'd be more worried about the last few feet
[18:22] <Pendulum> Yeah, but visually is the part that visually looks the worst (at least in my opinion)
[18:22] <Pendulum> because of the rolling
[18:24] <DJones> I wouldn't mind the 130,000 ft fall, just the sudden stop at the end could be annoying
[18:25] <zleap> http://www.redbullstratos.com/live/
[18:31] <SuperEngineer> comment from Queen_UK on twitter: "Try parachuting into an Olympic Opening Ceremony, moonbeam."  ;)
[18:37] <Azelphur> xD
[18:38] <popey> gord, mSATA SSD arrives tomorrow, I'll let you know how it goes :)
[18:39] <popey> have to take the keyboard off to get to it
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[21:34] <Neoti_Laptop> anyone around tonight .....
[21:37] <hamitron> depends if there are free gifts
[21:38] <Neoti_Laptop> Bottle of wine ...... :P
[21:38] <hamitron> bottle of cheap beer would have done ;)
[21:39] <Neoti_Laptop> yuk.... i hate beer ...... only spirits or wine for me.
[21:41] <Neoti_Laptop> iv not been in the ubuntu room for a while.... whats the topic at the mo
[21:41] <hamitron> ubuntu normally
[21:41] <Neoti_Laptop> LOLz..... doh! (Homer simpson style)
[21:42] <hamitron> I guess this room does cover a fair bit more
[21:42] <hamitron> :)
[21:43] <Neoti_Laptop> well to change tack slightly..... im on the look out for any watch guard X700's etc.... if anyone would be kind enough to donate me a few .......
[21:44] <dwatkins> bacon
[21:44] <hamitron> I just had old pizza
[21:45] <Neoti_Laptop> Meat Feast Pizza for me..... yum yum....
[21:46] <hamitron> plain cheese pizza from wednesday night
[21:46] <hamitron> ;)
[21:46] <Neoti_Laptop> yum.
[21:46] <hamitron> fungus included no doubt
[21:46] <hamitron> but looked ok I think
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[21:48] <Neoti_Laptop> Anyone going to IPEXPO ?
[21:51] <popey> there's a load on ebay Neoti_Laptop
[21:51] <Neoti_Laptop> i know i have bidded on them .
[21:51] <Neoti_Laptop> just waiting ....
[21:51] <Neoti_Laptop> i need a couple of a project ....
[21:52] <Neoti_Laptop> well a home lab really ...
[22:52] <szymon_g> hi
[22:52] <szymon_g> does anyone here have an experience with UKBA?
[22:54] <Neoti_Laptop> Nope
[22:54] <Neoti_Laptop> i personally don't
[22:54] <shauno> the border agency?  I try to avoid them as much as humanly possible
[22:55] <szymon_g> :| crap than
[22:55] <xnox> szymon_g: I have.
[22:56] <xnox> szymon_g: i can chat in private about it.
[22:56] <szymon_g> ok