=== Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [05:57] morning guys [06:40] morning everyone~ [06:42] hi Cantide [06:42] ^^ [06:42] yo not_found [06:43] hey uncle KilosU [06:43] why do you have a U now? KilosMicro? [06:43] U for unity , other one is KilosK for kde [06:44] so guys can see what i need help on [06:44] hehe [06:44] lol [06:44] k [06:44] :D [06:44] which do you prefer? [06:45] both not as good as gnome2 but kde is a bit easier to use and i can have lotsa desktops [06:46] gnome2 was more noob friendly methinks [06:46] I liked Gnome2, too [06:46] removing the panel at the bottom has hindered my productivity [06:46] yeah [06:46] but i think Unity + keyboard shortcuts is okay [06:46] still not as good [06:46] but okay [06:46] gnome2 is much quicker [06:49] is anyone using webapps in 12.04? [06:49] I just tried to install it but it failed [06:49] missing 3 dependencies [06:50] how did you install it [06:50] cli? [06:50] terminal [06:50] cli = terminal? [06:50] if you install synaptic [06:50] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/07/how-to-install-ubuntus-new-web-apps-feature [06:50] ya command line interface [06:51] i used the instructions at that link [06:51] in synaptic one can see what dependancies are and suggested extras [06:51] oh, it told me what the dependencies are [06:51] but i've no idea how to install them [06:52] let me pastebin it.. [06:52] oh then install them first [06:52] oh [06:52] do you use aptitude? [06:52] http://pastebin.com/jSGC8E9X [06:53] yes [06:53] use slexy.org [06:53] eish [06:53] pastebin sucks and takes forever to open here [06:54] lol [06:54] sorry :D [06:54] Network problem [06:54] Check that the address is spelled correctly, or try searching for the site. [06:54] Search with Google [06:54] always have probs with pastebin [06:56] Cantide, you know what the dependancies are so use aptitude to install them as well as your package [06:56] or are they pirate goodies [06:57] i think they have been removed [06:57] from the repos? [06:57] maybe [06:58] install synaptic and see if they are in there [07:00] trying to get some help on #ubuntu [07:00] whew thats a crazy channel [07:00] i cant keep up there [07:01] try #ubuntu-beginners [07:01] less people [07:01] less chance for help too unfortunatly [07:02] ai [07:03] lol [07:03] they're helping [07:03] slowly but surely [07:03] cool :) [07:03] nice [07:16] do the -dbg packages do any debugging? or just supply the debugging symbols [07:17] as in network-manager-dbg [08:10] hi magespawn === Vincent__ is now known as Guest29885 [11:22] Maaz, coffee on [11:22] * Maaz puts the kettle on [11:26] Coffee's ready for KilosU! [11:26] Maaz, ty [11:26] You are welcome KilosU [12:49] hmmm [12:51] anybody here going to be using 12.03? [12:51] *12.10 [12:58] good afternoon [12:58] Maaz: coffee on [12:58] * Maaz puts the kettle on [12:59] not sure about 12.10 vs 12.04... will seee [13:00] do you think it will be a great improvemenst as 10.10 was over 10.04? [13:02] Coffee's ready for charlvn! [13:12] nah [13:12] 12.04 was the improvement over the ones before [13:16] afternoon all [13:18] gday [13:19] waiting for http://www.redbullstratos.com/live/ [13:19] ah that is today?! [13:20] if the site struggles go to youtube.com/live [13:28] hi magespawn [13:28] hi not_found, Vince-0 [13:29] haai [13:30] i don't hear any sound on that video [13:30] is that the idea? [13:31] not much happening either [13:32] oh i see it only starts at 16:30 right? [13:34] ooh nice - you can watch kenyan tv live on youtube http://youtu.be/5Y-hElPWJgQ [13:44] hi charlvn [13:45] does kenyan tv have programs worth watching? [14:28] magespawn: i assume not :) [14:28] magespawn: maybe on the odd occasion - but it's just cool to see [14:28] kenya actually has a surprising amount of ict development compared to other african countries (including south africa) [14:28] ahh right charlvn [14:29] if you compare that to the general economic situation in the country which is actually pretty terrible [14:29] i think the gdp per capita is a small fraction of that of south africa even [14:29] last i checked [14:29] but the country is surprisingly well connected and has a huge mobile penetration rate [14:30] i spent a month there last year around august/september [14:30] did they not develop a mobile payment system there? [14:31] yup [14:31] mpesa [14:31] do you know what data costs there at what speeds? [14:32] the speeds are not great but you can get hsdpa for very cheap [14:32] there is an unlimited option which only costs a few euro per month [14:32] you won't find any equivalent to that in europe at all [14:32] here the hsdpa is outrageously expensive and usually come with limits on the amount of traffic you can do per monthj [14:32] *month [14:33] 300MB even, or a few GB on the more expensive packages [14:33] indeed fair usage policy [14:33] fair usage policy? [14:34] thats what the cell companies call it on the uncapped data bundles like BIS [14:34] you get to use up to a certain amount then they throttle your speed [14:36] hmmm [14:36] what is strange though is that i can't find the pricing back on the site now [14:36] http://www.safaricom.co.ke/personal/internet/data-bundles/prepay-databundles [14:36] i can't find the pricing on the unlimited bundles now [14:38] hmmm, seems like they took those down - haha! [14:38] maybe they did not make enough on those [14:39] it used to cost 3000 kenyan shillings per month for unlimited data [14:39] that's around 27 euro [14:39] at the current exchange rate [14:41] so about 300 rand [14:41] yeah but i pay twice that per month for my cable :P [14:42] ah here is the cable in kenya: http://www.zuku.co.ke/ [14:43] for about 90 euro you get 20mbps [14:43] http://www.zuku.co.ke/triple-play/triple-play-packages.html [14:51] hmmmm [14:51] ok, so i'm using sqlite, and all of a sudden, I can't update the sqlite database [14:52] i keep getting "Databese locked" error [14:52] never happened before [14:53] do not know that much about sqlite [14:55] superfly might be able to help [14:56] zeref: close everything down, open your db with the command line sqlite3 tool, and run "VACUUM" on each of your tables [14:56] I think that's how I solved it the last time [14:58] superfly: is it a pernament solution? [14:58] zeref: well, it cleans up the db [15:05] oh dear [15:05] what just happened there [15:06] superfly: does vacumm remove all records from the database? [15:06] or just unlock it? [15:16] later all [15:19] magespawn: later [15:22] zeref: no, it cleans up tables [15:25] countdown!!! [15:27] hmm [15:28] youtube is having trouble keeping up it seems [15:28] i get buffering every now and then === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [15:43] what you watching charlvn ? [15:51] KilosU: the red bull stratos launch [15:51] they are in the air now, high up [15:51] now to wait for the fall :) [15:51] you can follow it live on youtube if you have the internet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrIxH6DToXQ [15:52] nope [15:52] more important stuff to use data for [16:18] superfly, can you give me a shout when you have some time please. [16:18] i got arno in but cant ping google from pc2 [16:18] pc1 can ping pc2 and vice versa [16:19] KilosU: can PC2 ping 8.8.8.8 ? [16:19] network is unreachable [16:19] where you get 8.8.8.8 from? [16:22] route -n is http://slexy.org/view/s2aVzkwdAj [16:22] Bright eyes! :) How can you close & fail? :) [16:22] Bright eyes! :) How can you close & fail? :) [16:23] hi smile4ever [16:23] hi KilosU :) [16:23] your nick changed :p [16:23] ya its my unity drive here [16:24] so i dont get kde help here [16:25] other one is KilosK so i dont get gnome help there [16:27] KilosU: what is route -n on PC2? [16:30] I see :) === smile4ever is now known as smilE [16:30] I'm using Enlightenment ;) [16:31] superfly, http://slexy.org/view/s2sdPqk98h [16:31] why is it called genmask and not submask? :p [16:31] it says use interface eth2 [16:31] is that the prob? [16:32] Normally it is eth0 I think ;) [16:32] KilosU: no. what is PC1's IP address? [16:32] here, i'm using eth1 because of a failure with the built-in eth0 :P [16:32] 192.168.1.1 [16:32] pc2 is 192.168.1.2 [16:33] KilosU: "sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.1" [16:33] on pc2 superfly ? [16:33] yes [16:35] i think thats it superfly [16:36] KilosU: can you ping 8.8.8.8 ? [16:36] it pinged www.google.com [16:36] must it give many lines of info [16:36] gives one [16:37] with 8.8.8.8 and www.google.com [16:37] 8.8.8.8 is Google DNS o;O [16:37] :o [16:38] ah [16:38] still only shows one line, before it said network unreachable [16:40] oh no report on packet loss so didnt go there [16:45] nope superfly dont work but doesnt say net unavailable anymore [16:45] so we moved one step forward [16:46] KilosU: can you show me the output of the ping command please? [16:46] superfly, PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data. [17:08] good evening [17:09] hi inetpro [17:09] * inetpro watching the #livejump [17:09] http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MrIxH6DToXQ [17:09] almost 4million peeps watching right now [17:10] * inetpro watching at 240p to reduce bw utilisation [17:12] now at almost 95,000 ft of the 120,000 ft [17:12] inetpro, who is jumping so far? [17:13] or what? [17:13] KilosU: Felix Baumgartner going to jump at 120,000 ft [17:13] freefall from the edge of space [17:13] sjoe [17:14] trying to break the sound barrier in a 120,000 ft jump over New Mexico [17:14] will be a new record [17:15] very very interesting [17:16] now over 30km above earth [17:17] 100,000 ft [17:22] * KilosU thinks falling off the bed is too far to fall [17:24] roflol [17:25] +4.5m peeps watching now [17:25] on youtube [17:25] wow all that lovely data [17:26] 33km up [17:27] sjoe [17:28] 110,000 ft now [17:29] no :o [17:29] 111 000 :) [17:32] record of highest manned balloon flight now broken, 113,740 ft === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [17:41] now +120,000 ft [17:42] almost getting ready to jump [17:48] They are to high now :p [17:52] +6.2m viewers on youtube [17:52] tension rising as he goes through the checklist [17:53] heh, what i'm iI missing out on? [17:55] zeref: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MrIxH6DToXQ [17:55] ta [18:02] none of it is supported on mobile devices [18:03] magespawn: that is sad [18:03] * inetpro was looking for such a link previoulsy as well [18:03] ahh well such is life [18:04] door opened [18:04] just have to watch the recorded one [18:06] did they say how long the free fall would be? [18:07] keep your eyes open :D [18:07] there he goes, 7.5m peeps watching [18:08] fail internet is fail [18:09] ai [18:09] will have to watch the recorded version [18:11] zeref :( [18:11] almost 8 million people [18:11] :) [18:17] have you guys noticed the visitor in #linux-studies? [18:19] thats a very poisonous kinda snake if i member right [18:19] all done [18:19] is he down inetpro ? [18:19] yep [18:19] did he make the sound barrier bit [18:21] ty for the running commentory [18:23] * inetpro stopped watching now [18:23] that was more than 200MB [18:23] KilosU: I'm not sure about the sound barrier, will have get that confirmation [18:24] went way to quick for me [18:24] yeah [18:24] sjoe [18:25] my phone rang just before he jumped, got back and his shoot was open [18:25] it will be on the news on idiot box sometime [18:25] way too quick [18:25] amazing! [18:26] * inetpro still feeling some pressure [18:26] so many things that could have gone wrong [18:27] Maaz: coffee on [18:27] * Maaz washes some mugs [18:27] Maaz, coffee please [18:27] KilosU: Sure [18:27] and a valium for inetpro [18:28] I been following the story for some time but almost missed it today [18:28] next bi thing is breaking the landspeed record [18:29] will be in 2013 on one of our flats inna desert [18:29] they reckon they gonna top 1000 mph [18:29] KilosU: interesting, who and where? [18:30] i watched it on tv about 2 hours ago on carteblanche i think [18:30] who watched the jump?!! [18:30] not_found: eh! [18:30] the highest jump ever made by a person? [18:31] from 38 freaking km up?!! [18:31] not_found: yep [18:31] was brilliant :) [18:31] Coffee's ready for inetpro and KilosU! [18:31] o/ [18:31] Maaz: ta [18:31] Dis 'n groot plesier [18:31] hi inetpro ... and all [18:31] was thinking oh oh when he was spinning [18:32] not_found: that was just awesome! [18:32] best movie I have seen all year... several years :p [18:33] Maaz: last tweet from workaholicblake [18:33] inetpro: No such twit [18:33] Maaz: last tweet by workaholicblake [18:33] inetpro: No such twit [18:34] hmm... [18:34] he says; "The irony is, #LiveJump has categorically proven that Red Bull does not give you wings. " [18:34] :-) [18:34] haha [18:34] well he did go pretty high initially [18:35] seems this broke the net... no youtube loading.. even online game crashing out [18:36] even kilos is gone [18:37] wow... the end of the internet... [18:37] haha [18:37] k me reboot... windows can't handle the awesome [18:37] redbull crashed internet :P [18:37] if anything can I guess it would be them [18:41] ah game is back youtube still down [18:44] does anyone know if they are going to put up the recording? [18:45] should be several vids coming up... edited etc... [18:46] magespawn: I'm sure you will read and see lots of it in delayed fashion even on TV [18:46] they did not show the full video of his test jump [18:46] ok who killed youtube? [18:46] * inetpro loves the realtime world [18:46] Tonberry: was me [18:46] do not have/watch tv [18:47] oops Tonberry, I meant not me :-) [18:47] I stopped watching a while after he landed [18:47] i'm not even trying to watch the jump [18:48] that must have set some sort of record for live views of one event [18:48] the largest number of live viewers I noticed was just over 7.5m as he was jumping [18:49] wb KilosU [18:49] grrr [18:49] fiddle with eth cable and 8ta disappears [18:49] ty inetpro [18:50] need info [18:50] tablet and lg android fone [18:50] need a cable to connect them [18:51] will be usb to usb but the same as the usb in pc [18:51] male I think [18:52] KilosU: wth are you trying now? [18:53] what would one call the cable that can connect 2 flash drives together [18:53] not sure that is even possible [18:53] * inetpro has never even given that a thought [18:55] you might need to custom make something like that, and then it might not communicate without custom software [18:56] the hardware needs to support it first [18:56] i'm reasonably sure it is not possible [18:56] the tablet needs to be able to do usb host mode [18:56] ok tablet to tablet case maybe [18:56] not flashdrive to flashdrive... [18:57] its the easiest way to explain what it must be [18:57] its to connect a tablet to a lg android [18:57] Kilos-: google to see if the tablet can be a usb host [19:01] http://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/34741/can-an-android-tablet-serve-as-usb-host-and-be-charged-simultaneously-through-a [19:04] * inetpro agrees with Tonberry that flashdrive to flashdrive does not make sense at all [19:04] but even tablet to mobile sounds like a mission [19:04] i think KilosU was just using it to describe the connectors [19:05] ok [19:05] inetpro, its just to explain what ends the cable must have [19:05] i dunno if its male or female [19:05] Kilos-: you want to use the phone's internet on the tablet? [19:05] Kilos-: I guess you mean mini-USB to mini-USB? [19:06] she says same plugs that will accept sticks on both sides [19:06] so standard size usb [19:06] interesting [19:06] that is with the normal usb cables already attached [19:07] so three cables in total connected end to end [19:07] makes sense [19:07] she will most likely use the fone to pc cable into one end of the new cable [19:07] but, Kilos-, is it for internet? [19:07] sec ill see if she answeres on mxit [19:07] ok [19:10] its to connect a memory stick to the tablet Kerbero [19:10] hmm [19:12] she reckons they are available overseas but not in sa? [19:12] well i see something similar for another tablet [19:12] http://www.androidcentral.com/how-use-your-usb-flash-drives-nexus-7-root [19:12] but as i said, you need to make sure the tablet can be a usb host [19:12] the usb chipset inside the tablet needs to support it first [19:13] will tell her [19:35] * inetpro tuning in to listen to the conference at http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MrIxH6DToXQ [19:36] hmm... not a lot happening there yet [19:39] inetpro what conference is that? not opening for me [19:39] okay just got it now [19:40] magespawn: interviews [19:40] sorry "press conference" [19:42] looks like there's another delay [19:42] Kerbero, gimme a shout when you have time to try sort this network please [19:42] tomorrow maybe [19:42] when its suits you [19:43] got them pinging each other but cant get out with pc2 [19:46] that stick mount looke like you can use it to mount external storage, so you could link a phone and a tablet [19:47] thats what she wants to do magespawn [19:47] use a stick on the tablet [19:48] you would need a usb cable with micro on one side with the female on the other [19:49] stickmount from the play store [19:49] cool [19:50] what will use the micro side? [19:50] if you need to make one you can find the pin out on the net [19:50] the tablet [19:51] oh isnt tablet standard usb? [19:51] not usually [19:51] what tablet is it? [19:51] itab sis says [19:51] is there such a thig [19:51]