[00:00] <cyphase> anyone know why nautilus would be sorting my home directory in reversed order by modification date and not saving the order when i change it to alphabetical order?
[00:00] <Abin> I would like to create a patch for the linux 2.6 kernel... Can nyone suggest a simple topic for doing this.. I mean, area in linux kernel??
[00:01] <zykotick9> Benxyzzy: what is taking up the space?  "cd /boot" then "du -sh *"
[00:02] <Benxyzzy> zykotick9: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1278075/
[00:03] <zykotick9> Benxyzzy: ? "df -h | grep -i boot" doesn't look like much used!
[00:04] <Benxyzzy> zykotick9: df -h doesn't list /boot. I should mention that I'm using whole-disk encryption, hence why the boot partition will be separate. I don't really know why it isn't appearing in df though.
[00:05] <zykotick9> Benxyzzy: best of luck.  don't reply to me further - i won't see it.
[00:05] <Benxyzzy> zykotick9:
[00:06] <wols> Benxyzzy: sudo fdisk -l
[00:06] <psusi> Benxyzzy, if df doesn't show /boot, then either you don't have one, or don't have it mounted
[00:06] <gartral> is there any way to mount a casper FS from a live persistant install and edit it?
[00:07] <Benxyzzy> wols: Don't worry, I've just realised the grave stupidity of what I've done. I should confess here that I'm very drunk. I was ssh'd into another box, uninstalling kernels over there and expecting it to fix my disk issues on my local machine.
[00:07] <BlackDalek> zykotick9, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1278077/ right now the system is running normally. Only apps open are firefox (3 tabs open) and system monitor.
[00:07] <zykotick9> gartral: if you are interested in created a custom livecd have you seen "/msg ubottu customlivecd"?
[00:08] <Dataholic> me too
[00:08] <Dr_willis> gartral,  ive mounted the casper-rw file befor via the loop method of mount. but i dont recall adding stuff just copying stuff from it.
[00:08] <zykotick9> BlackDalek: you DON'T currently have high memory usage right now.
[00:08] <gartral> zykotick9: I'm not, I had a live USB drive set up for testing a new comp that I don't have a HDD for yet, and it was working until I changed a driver and now it won't boot.
[00:09] <BlackDalek> zykotick9, yes, but after a while the memory usage will creep up to 99% and it slows to a crawl as it has to use swap space.
[00:09] <Dr_willis> gartral,  im not sure how you would mount it and remove a driver.
[00:09] <zykotick9> gartral: look for bios/boot issues then perhaps?  best of luck.
[00:09] <Dr_willis> gartral,  its possible you could use the 'text' boot option and get to a console perhaps?  then use the package manaer to remove the driver
[00:10] <gartral> Dr_willis: I do, edit /etc/modules
[00:10] <freesky77>  /EXEC rm -vf /home/freesky77/.xchat2/buduscript/tmp/budus_XDCC_1919.query
[00:10] <gartral> Dr_willis: wasn't installed using a package, I had to compile it (Wifi driver for a buggy cheap wireless adapter)
[00:10] <zykotick9> BlackDalek: well, what program is causing that?  you might want to check "top" or the improved version "htop" (not installed by default) where you can sort my memory usage and find out what's eating your memory.  if it's cache, that's a good thing - if not, then it's something else ;)
[00:10] <Dr_willis> gartral,  try mounting it as you would an iso file.  mount casper-rw /media/foo -o loop    (i think)
[00:10] <Dr_willis> !iso
[00:10] <gartral> Dr_willis: how would I get a text-only boot from a live cd?
[00:11] <gartral> it's not an iso
[00:11] <Dr_willis> gardar,  try adding the 'text' optiion to the boot options like you would for nomodeset. its weird that a wifi driver would mess up  the system from booting
[00:11] <gartral> Dr_willis: it's not an ISO or a CD.
[00:11] <Dr_willis> gardar,  its the same METHOD AS you would use for the ISO
[00:11] <gartral> Dr_willis: oh
[00:11] <zykotick9> Dr_willis: a wifi driver from source, i can believe it ;)
[00:11] <Dr_willis> the casper-rw file is ext3 filesystem also i belive
[00:12] <veryhappy> hi guys
[00:12] <Dr_willis> you may need to use the -t filesystem option also.
[00:12] <veryhappy> bekks: good that you're here. i tried it, but i failed. can you please help me on installing a vdr?
[00:12] <ns-nazri> i have GParted 0.14.0 tar file, how to install using terminal , and i have using linux 12
[00:13] <Dr_willis> sudo mount -o loop -t ext3 casper-rw /media/casper-rw      Perhaps.
[00:13] <ns-nazri> i have GParted 0.14.0 tar file, how to install using terminal , and i have using linux mint 12
[00:13] <Dr_willis> ns-nazri,  if its source you would COMPILE it.. or go find a PPA for the latest versions.
[00:13] <Treaver> Ubuntu 12.10 is going to be released in 4 days ;)
[00:13] <Dr_willis> ns-nazri,  and mint has its own support channels.
[00:14] <ns-nazri> but is same ubuntu
[00:14] <Dr_willis> ns-nazri,  and mint has its own support channels.... its NOT the same..
[00:14] <Dr_willis> !mint
[00:14] <Dijinn> Hi everyone!
[00:15] <BlackDalek> zykotick9, well anyway, usage is still crawling up.. and in a few minutes the system will be incapacitated again ;) http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1278088/
[00:15] <Dijinn> !ubuntu
[00:15] <ejv> it's all debian, therefore it's all, more or less, the same.
[00:15] <Dr_willis> its all binary bits... so its all the same. ;P
[00:15] <Dijinn> I need a hand from someone that knows how to solve weird problems
[00:15] <zykotick9> ejv: very WRONG
[00:16] <Dr_willis> Dijinn,  state the issue and see who can help
[00:16] <ejv> no.
[00:16] <pablo_> hello all
[00:16] <Dijinn> I got a problem after i install Ubuntu or w/e linux in my notebook for dual boot...
[00:16] <gartral> Dr_willis: arrgh.. that mounted it read-only
[00:16] <pablo_> I have a problem with libsvn_client-1.so.ù
[00:17] <Dr_willis> gartral,  i dont recall ever writing to it. just copied some stuff from one  a few months back. You are accessing it as root>
[00:17] <Dijinn> I'm not sure if it's because I got windows 7, but after installing ubuntu i got the option to boot it on the bios...
[00:18] <pablo_> double boot with win7?
[00:18] <Dijinn> but when i tried to boot it, no success...and after reinstalling, no success either
[00:18] <pablo_> what's problem?
[00:18] <Dijinn> i got the option in the bios instead of booting the bootloaderd
[00:19] <Dijinn> and it doesnt boot
[00:19] <pablo_> u must set flag boot of a win7 partetition
[00:19] <pablo_> win7 make 2 primary partetition
[00:19] <ejv> without ever having touched mint ever, im certain i could irrevocably bend that os to my will, knowing that it's all a debian fork underneath, if you can use one you can use the other
[00:19] <pablo_> and u must set bootable the first
[00:19] <pablo_> understand
[00:19] <wangzh> list
[00:19] <Dr_willis> gartral,  checking at askubuntu.com - they dont seem to use any fancy options when mounting casper-rw
[00:20] <Dr_willis> well good luck.
[00:20] <pablo_> I had the same problem
[00:20] <Dijinn> more less...the weird thing is that my computer didnt get the bootloader for linux working...instead of it, it created a new option on my bios boot
[00:20] <Dijinn> and i cant take it out of it
[00:21] <wangzh> wow
[00:26] <hoechts> hi, how can I make the output of top to be written to a file continously without appending it to a file?
[00:26] <tyler_d> can you convert any machine to POE? or is the injection portion of this specific to hardware?
[00:26] <hoechts> i mean each time top produces an output (once a sec?) the file is written anew
[00:27] <zykotick9> hoechts: if you get an answer, let me know ;)  good luck.  i have never tried to record top's output, but it "might" be neat/handy.
[00:27] <hoechts> zykotick9, actually i do not want the output of top to be written to a file, but other programs do the same.. writing output continously
[00:28] <hoechts> zykotick9, and for those cases i'd like the file to rewritten on every update ;)
[00:31] <doomlord_> anyone know if linux can support the 'displaylink' usb monitors
[00:31] <tyler_d> !sar | hoechts
[00:31] <tyler_d> !sa
[00:32] <hoechts> tyler_d, ?!
[00:32] <tyler_d> d0h.... hoechts there is a utility called sar available in opensuse/redhat that outputs a system snapshot on a set timeline, defaulted to 15 minutes
[00:32] <tyler_d> hoechts: I will find find the appropriate link, sorry for the confusion there.
[00:33] <hoechts> tyler_d, actually, im not interested in the output of top but on similar programs like handbrake, which outputs continously
[00:34] <hoechts> but i only want the updated line to be written to the file without appending it
[00:34] <hoechts> so the file does not get blown up
[00:34] <tyler_d> hoechts: why not redirect all to stdout and use something like !tee
[00:34] <tyler_d> !tee
[00:34] <tyler_d> come on ubottu
[00:34] <hoechts> :D
[00:35] <tyler_d> man tee if you would hoechts
[00:35] <tyler_d> I'm not sure if that's what you're intending on... if not we can try again :p
[00:35] <hoechts> so top | tee myfile ?!
[00:36] <maicod> my system said my filesys wasn't clean and it appeared only to be because the date was in the future. is there a way to let it ignore this ?
[00:36] <hoechts> tyler_d, "top | tee myfile" appends all the output ;/
[00:36] <tyler_d> tee -a
[00:36] <tyler_d> do you want to see the output as well?
[00:36] <ns-nazri> can you know what mean "checking for uuid_generate in -luuid... no"
[00:37] <tyler_d> hoechts: you will want to read the manpage for tee as it is quite powerful, you can auto-increment output based on size and other params, and is specifically used in order to see the output as well as write it to a file.
[00:38] <hoechts> tyler_d, no i do not want to see the output.. i just want the output that is generated for serveral days is always truncated on each output update ;)
[00:38] <hoechts> tyler_d, the tee manpage is quite short..  less than a page ;)
[00:39] <[JJ]Albert> Steam for Linux is just around the corner. :D
[00:39] <tyler_d>               info coreutils 'tee invocation'
[00:39] <zykotick9> [JJ]Albert: that's not "on topic" for this channel, see "/msg ubottu offtopic" for details
[00:39] <[JJ]Albert> Oh, so this place has an offtopic channel too. :p
[00:39] <[JJ]Albert> Srry.
[00:41] <maicod> isnt it ubuntu-social ?
[00:42] <tyler_d> hoechts: so you may want to simply redirect the output by doing `top >> somefile.log`
[00:42] <hoechts> tyler_d, then the output of top is appended to somefile.log which is exactly what i want not to be done ;)
[00:43] <hoechts> tyler_d, as you know, top generated a new output every 1 second
[00:43] <tyler_d> hrmmm.... hoechts yes.
[00:43] <hoechts> tyler_d, now i want the output of top to be written to a file each second, while NOT appending to what was written by the last top output
[00:43] <tyler_d> what is the end goal here, sorry for my sat night ignorance
[00:43] <tucemiux> anyone knows how to symlink their Desktop to another folder? o.O
[00:44] <tyler_d> hoechts: so what's wrong with top > somefile.log
[00:44] <zykotick9> tucemiux: i'd recommend you move it, rather then use a symlink.  sorry don't remember the specifics how to do that though.
[00:44] <tyler_d> tucemiux: ln -s /path/to/desktop /path/to/symlink
[00:44] <hoechts> tyler_d, this does append to somefile.log too, because top is ONE command which continously creates output
[00:44] <tucemiux> tyler_d, i know how to create a symlink but nowadays it doesn't work no mo
[00:44] <tyler_d> hoechts: interesting... 2 secs.
[00:45] <tucemiux> tyler_d, you cant just symlink your desktop to another folder, it doesn't work that way
[00:45] <tyler_d> tucemiux: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root      root        23 Oct 13 21:45 mytempdesktop -> /home/cthompson/Desktop
[00:46] <tucemiux> tyler_d, lsb_release -a please
[00:46] <tucemiux> Description:	Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[00:46] <darkelfjuggalo> I've attempted to make a USB Installer for Ubuntu and for Debian for a 64-bit machine... doing it direct or Cat command tells me the linuximage.bin is missing, Pendriveinstaller.com's writer begins the install BUT fails when attempting several steps... and unetbootin's writer ends in result of 'no boot filename received'
[00:47] <tyler_d> hoechts: that is interesting... what about batch mode for top?
[00:47] <calrogman> darkelfjuggalo: http://live.debian.net/
[00:47] <zykotick9> tucemiux: fyi if you're familiar with the codenames "lsb_release -sc" is a lot shorter output then "lsb_release -a"
[00:48] <hoechts> tyler_d, as I already said, i actually do not want to use top at all, but i want to solve this contiouus output problem for any program
[00:48] <darkelfjuggalo> calrogman, I'd prefer ubuntu if possible
[00:48] <tyler_d> hoechts: ahhhh, yes you did...
[00:48] <hoechts> tyler_d, there are several programs that continously generate output for example to let users know the current status of the program
[00:48] <calrogman> darkelfjuggalo: it can build any distro using a debian repository structure
[00:49] <tucemiux> zykotick9, if  dont know how to symlink it in 12.04 LTS then youre trolling on my post
[00:49] <tyler_d> tucemiux: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1278130/
[00:49] <hoechts> tyler_d, i could do a loop script with rm myfile ... but i dont like this solution
[00:49] <darkelfjuggalo> calrogman: what am I looking for on this page, I'm really not familiar with it
[00:50] <tucemiux> tyler_d, you remember how you did that?  will I have to use sudo???  The current Desktop just wont go away
[00:50] <tyler_d> hoechts: I thought of that... a bit dirty and not very transportable without customization
[00:50] <tyler_d> tucemiux: ln -s /path/to/Desktop /tmp/mytestDesktop
[00:51] <hoechts> tyler_d, actually i tihnk i just live with it.. i have some TB of HDD so i can deal with big files ;))
[00:51] <tyler_d> tucemiux: what are you trying to do anyways... aside from symlink it
[00:51] <tucemiux> tyler_d, i already tried that but i'll try it again, just to satisfy your curiosity
[00:51] <calrogman> darkelfjuggalo: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/live-build and http://live.debian.net/manual-3.x/html/live-manual/toc.en.html
[00:51] <tyler_d> hoechts: that is a nasty one, I would say investigate perl or python or such to do it a bit cleaner... sorry I'm not of much help on this one.
[00:52] <tyler_d> tucemiux: I'm not curious... I did it, it worked.
[00:52] <tucemiux> tyler_d, i have my install on a SSD drive and it literally flies!  I want to store my data on a SATA hard drive though, I always put my stuff on anothert drive and the install on another drive
[00:52] <tyler_d> tucemiux: ok. so if you have always done this, why does it not work now? what is different?
[00:53] <tucemiux> tyler_d, im blind as a bat! I'm crossed eyed and you can call me a mets fan!
[00:53] <tyler_d> tucemiux: your home folder should simply show as a different partition mounted to /home/me
[00:54] <tucemiux> tyler_d, i can see it now, dont know why it wasn't working before
[00:54] <darkelfjuggalo> calrogman:  is this the same as a virtual machine[the wording in the manual comes across as that]
[00:54] <tucemiux> tyler_d, well it's not really working, i M seeing a symlink called "MyDesktop" on my "Desktop" folder
[00:54] <tyler_d> tucemiux: what I just said still stands... if this is how you want it, then your home folder in its entirety should show as a different mountpoint to your other disk/partition
[00:55] <tyler_d> tucemiux: you should move your entire home folder with permissions and all to the separate drive
[00:55] <calrogman> no darkelfjuggalo, it builds a system in a chroot, then makes a bootable .iso or .img to be written to a USB drive or blank CD/DVD
[00:55] <tyler_d> tucemiux: and modify your fstab to mount that disk/partition to /home/myname on boot!
[00:56] <tucemiux> tyler_d,  youre bringing up a good point though, i've never done this before - i always opted for the easier but now it's not working o.O
[00:56] <darkelfjuggalo> oh ok
[00:56] <calrogman> darkelfjuggalo: if i'm re-reading your question right though, that's overkill
[00:56] <calrogman> you might have just been looking for this http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu or http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en
[00:56] <tucemiux> tyler_d,  now that I remember - I don't want to move my home folder because I would lost some speed
[00:57] <tyler_d> tucemiux: I'm not an expert with fstab, but I understand what you are aiming for, limited cycles of an sdd and such; I do know that the way I have outlined is documented somewhere and is the way to go.
[00:57] <tucemiux> i would **lose*** some speed
[00:57] <zykotick9> !cookie | calrogman ;)
[00:57] <tucemiux> tyler_d,  a home folder on a non SSD drive will slow me down a bit, I just want my "Desktop" folder on another drive
[00:58] <tyler_d> tucemiux: this method would still hold true for any folder within your home folder though... move that folder to the other disk and modify your fstab to mount the correct location on boot
[00:58] <tyler_d> tucemiux: jelly
[00:58] <tucemiux> tyler_d,  i can put an fstab entry for my "Desktop"?? o.O
[00:59] <tyler_d> tucemiux: your desktop is simply a folder.... like any other
[01:00] <darkelfjuggalo> calrogman: what do you mean overkill? the original question that listed the ways I have attempted to make a WORKING USB installer? i've come to the chat for help a few times with little success
[01:00] <tyler_d> tucemiux: taking caution to not modify the permissions of that folder when moving it, it could be anywhere you had permission to read it.
[01:00] <cvncmfgq> i have an intel and a nvidia gpu in this laptop
[01:00] <tucemiux> tyler_d, yes but im going to /home/tucemiux, then symlinking it and "Desktop" folder refuses to symlink
[01:00] <cvncmfgq> is there a way to tell which one is "default"
[01:01] <tucemiux> drwxrwxr-x 2 tucemiux tucemiux 4096 Oct 13 20:52 Desktop
[01:01] <tyler_d> tucemiux: do this please `sudo ln -s /home/tucemiux/Desktop /tmp/tyler_dsaidputthishere`
[01:01] <calrogman> darkelfjuggalo: building an entire debian or ubuntu system then creating a bootable image with it will take you at least a couple of hours of your time, and possibly a couple of gigabytes of disk space if you splurge on packages.  using a prebuilt image is recommended.
[01:02] <tyler_d> tucemiux: then show me the money `ls -ltr /tmp/tyler_dsaidputthishere`
[01:02] <tucemiux> drwxrwxr-x 2 tucemiux tucemiux 4096 Oct 13 20:52 Desktop
[01:02] <tucemiux> pwd /home/tucemiux
[01:03] <zykotick9> cvncmfgq: <sidebar> does "lspci -v | grep -i vga" from terminal list both of your graphics chips?
[01:03] <darkelfjuggalo> calrogman, I have been trying to use a pre-built image, the original question examples of previous attempts are ALL pre-built...
[01:03] <tucemiux> sudo ln -s /home/tucemiux/Desktop/ /media/drive/Folder
[01:03] <cvncmfgq> zykotick9:  yes
[01:03] <tyler_d> tucemiux: then you did not type as I said, or the permissions and ownership of /tmp/tyler_dsaidputthishere would be root:root...
[01:03] <zykotick9> cvncmfgq: cool, thanks.
[01:04] <cvncmfgq> why?
[01:04] <tyler_d> tucemiux: no slash after desktop
[01:04] <zykotick9> cvncmfgq: just checkin'
[01:04] <darkelfjuggalo> calrogman: and the live build manual is confusing the hell out of me
[01:04] <cvncmfgq> well how does that help me?
[01:04] <zykotick9> cvncmfgq: you helped me.  thanks.
[01:04] <tyler_d> tucemiux: you have typed ln -s /home/tucemiux/Desktop/ <----------lose the "/"
[01:05] <cvncmfgq> zykotick9: how did i help you?
[01:05] <cvncmfgq> is it for the developers
[01:05] <calrogman> darkelfjuggalo: a manual for a piece of software that builds an entire OS from lots of little bits, from lots of different possible sources, and puts it together in one of several bootable formats, tends to get a bit verbose
[01:05] <cvncmfgq> ?
[01:05] <cvncmfgq> so they know if the graphics cards are showing up
[01:06] <darkelfjuggalo> calrogman ; i agree
[01:06] <zykotick9> cvncmfgq: by verifying my lspci command worked for hybrid cards as i expected.  good luck with your issue, i've never personally owned/used a portable with hybrid graphics myself - but i wanted to make sure my test for hybrid graphics "worked as intended" - and you proved, it does.  so thanks again - and best of luck.
[01:06] <tucemiux> tyler_d, drwxrwxr-x 2 tucemiux tucemiux 4096 Oct 13 21:06 Desktop
[01:07] <tyler_d> tucemiux: pwd?
[01:07] <cvncmfgq> zyk ok
[01:07] <darkelfjuggalo> I just want an AMD64 iso for Ubuntu that will work properly...I need that computer for school and having no OS on it is just a waste of 700$
[01:07] <tucemiux> /home/tucemiux
[01:07] <zykotick9> cvncmfgq: you might want to see "/msg ubottu tab" in your irc client, and look for a PM from ubottu.
[01:08] <cvncmfgq> thanks
[01:08] <tucemiux> tyler_d, it keeps putting the link in "Desktop" - it refuses to replace Desktop
[01:09] <tucemiux> tyler_d, im just going to use the link on my "Desktop", I have to keep on working, thanks for the help though
[01:09] <tyler_d> tucemiux: for obvious reasons... I was of the impression that was gone... move it, don't delete it. mv Desktop Desktop.orig
[01:09] <tyler_d> tucemiux: then try again
[01:10] <tucemiux> drwxrwxr-x 2 tucemiux tucemiux 4096 Oct 13 21:09 Desktop
[01:10] <tucemiux> drwxrwxr-x 2 tucemiux tucemiux 4096 Oct 13 21:08 old_desktop
[01:10] <tucemiux> tyler_d,  /home/tucemiux
[01:11] <tucemiux> tyler_d, i dont think this window manager lets me do this, im going to call it a night, thanks either ways
[01:11] <tyler_d> tucemiux: `mv Desktop Desktop.orig ; ln -s /path/to/Desktop /home/tucemiux/Desktop`
[01:11] <Caliope> i'm curious about the find command .. if I am not root will it still find anyfile tht I name?
[01:12] <tucemiux> tyler_d, i dont think youre following me
[01:12] <tyler_d> tucemiux: from a terminal that command will work. sorry we couldn't polish it off for you.
[01:12] <tucemiux> I already did that
[01:12] <zykotick9> Caliope: only files it has permission for.  if you want to get rid of the errors use "find ... 2>/dev.null"
[01:12] <tucemiux> mv Desktop old_desktop ---> does not work!!!!!!!!!
[01:12] <tucemiux> sudo mv Desktop old_desktop.old ---> doesnt work either!!!!
[01:13] <zykotick9> s/dev.null/'dev/null'
[01:13] <tyler_d> tucemiux: what does the output say?
[01:13] <tucemiux> there is no output
[01:13] <Caliope> @darkelfjuggalo .. I converted my cheap laptop over to Ubuntu and it works fine for school ...   and zykotic .. thank you!
[01:13] <tucemiux> it creates "old_desktop" folder into my home directory /home/tucemiux, my "Desktop" folder is unfazed, not even a scratch!
[01:13] <tyler_d> tucemiux: then you are correct, I must be missing something here...
[01:14] <zykotick9> Caliope: you might want to see "/msg ubottu tab" ;)  fyi i didn't get highlighted on your post - which is a drag ;)
[01:14] <darkelfjuggalo> Caliope: Im in a Video Game Design Program, my other computers don't have the RAM to run the programs I need
[01:14] <Caliope> oh goodness, it just deleted everything ??? i guess i have to reboot with my Windows for Workgroups 3" disk set?
[01:14] <tucemiux> it looks like my window manager wont let me do it, im going to try it on another machine with gnome and see what happens, ill do that another night, good night!
[01:15] <hoechts> how can i redirect output to tail?
[01:15] <Caliope> not sure how to highlight the post .. but darkel, I bult a workstation for home and re-used everything except for the graphics and mobo and put in 16GB of ram .. seem to work pretty good
[01:16] <hoechts> i'd expect echo "asdf" | tail test to write "asdf" to test
[01:16] <hoechts> but instead tail reads test
[01:16] <hoechts> ...
[01:16] <calrogman> yes, that's what tail does hoechts
[01:16] <Caliope> i had an older box and basically gutted out the mobo and the graphic board, left everything else in side ..
[01:16] <hoechts> i'd need something like echo "asdf" | tail myoutputoftail test
[01:16] <calrogman> echo "asdf" | tee test | tail
[01:17] <zykotick9> calrogman: (i'm just joking with you - i know you're the one helping) "man tail"
[01:17] <Caliope> echo "asdf" | tail myoutputoftail test | echo "test"
[01:18] <calrogman> and now i have no idea what anybody is trying to accomplish, excellent!
[01:18] <Caliope> that's Linux .. work on it until something good comes out
[01:18] <calrogman> this describes every attempt at using sed i've ever made
[01:19] <hoechts> calrogman, well yea that kinda works, but now i still have the problem, that all the content is written to the file, which i dont want to have ;)
[01:19] <calrogman> you only want the tail written to the file?
[01:19] <zykotick9> calrogman: lol, i hate sed syntax.  but it's ubber handy sometimes (after searching online / testing / debugging ;)
[01:19] <darryl> hey i have a alienware x-51 and i just installed ubuntu 12.04.1 along side windows 7 but grub doesn't detect windows
[01:19] <hoechts> calrogman, I just would like to write the output of a program to a file whereas only the last output of the program is written to the file
[01:19] <darryl> also the display is funny, it says its at 1920x1080 resolution but it doesn't fill my screen
[01:20] <hoechts> calrogman, for example: "top" continously writes content, and i want to command line which always writes the last update (or last line) of the output to a file without appending it
[01:20] <wilee-nilee> darryl, you run sudo update-grub in ubuntu
[01:20] <calrogman> hoechts: echo "asdf" | tail | tee test ?
[01:20] <darryl> wilee-nilee: i have done that
[01:20] <darryl> os-prober doesn't detect windows
[01:20] <calrogman> not a good idea to send top's stdout through a pipe, silly things will happen
[01:20] <Caliope> darryl ... did you install Linux first or secod?  Windo$s will assert itself if installed secondly
[01:20] <darryl> i installed ubuntu second
[01:20] <darryl> i think its a issue with uefi
[01:20] <hoechts> calrogman, echo "test" | tail > test seems to work
[01:20] <hoechts> thanks
[01:21] <zykotick9> darryl: for windows, try "sudo update-grub" from terminal.  do you see windows go by in the output?  if so, reboot and it should be there.  if not - i have no idea.
[01:21] <Caliope> open grub in vim and see what it says
[01:21] <Caliope> or gedit
[01:22] <wilee-nilee> darryl, easiest way to see the whole setup is using the bootscript. http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[01:23] <Caliope> that's what I used to use on my old box that had RH, Windows, BeOS and Solaris on it
[01:23] <darkelfjuggalo> Caliope: I'm not that good with the hardware and how are you running without a motherboard?
[01:23] <Caliope> no no no , I pulled the mobo and then put in a new one with an AMD64 cpu .. guess you cold run without a mobo ...not tried that yet
[01:24] <Caliope> lol
[01:24] <ryeth> anyone having issues on ubuntu not recognizing a laptop battery?
[01:24] <ryeth> i've installed all necessary drivers
[01:25] <darkelfjuggalo> lol, Caliope, how did you manage to get the iso on the AMD64...this is my first time dealing with AMD64, and it's giving me all the hell everyone has told me it would
[01:25] <darryl> hmm it shows windows boot info in the boot info script thing
[01:26] <Caliope> I downloaded the Ubuntu AMD64 distro and burned it to a DVD then booted from the DVD with the new mobo.  after it boots in the "live CD" mode, it gives you the option of installing a new OS (the 64bit distro. after that I just moved /home over and that was that
[01:27] <Caliope> darryl if you don't want windows to boot just comment out the windows boot info with **
[01:27] <Raerth> Hi people, looking for inspiration. Just rebooted and the resolution has dropped to 1080x768, I check in xrandr and it's telling my that 1080x768 is the maximum possible resolution. "System Settings" seems to incorrectly label my screen as a laptop. Any ideas how to fix this and raise my resolution?
[01:28] <Caliope> Raerth -- have you downloaded the "extra and non-canonoical video drivers?  If you've got an NVDIA dirived cGPU they you might want to try that .. There is a native NVIIA graphics adaptro ap which will help you id and fiddle the card
[01:28] <darkelfjuggalo> I can't get the install to start half the time... the one time i got it to start it failed to detect network hardware, failed to install the next 3 steps worth of information so i aborted it
[01:29] <darryl> ah ha, i think it figured it out
[01:29] <darryl> for anyone curious i found a web-page and it says this: It should automatically boot into Ubuntu. If you wish to make it boot into Windows first, simply go into the BIOS and change the Hard Drive BBS priority so Windows Boot Manager comes first.
[01:30] <Caliope> OK, darkel , anything for a fellow Juggalo ... suggest that the order of the boot precedence is backwards .. just cut and paste and put the Windopes crap down lower in the script
[01:30] <Raerth> Caliope, I have on-board graphics, no separate GPU, should I still need to try that
[01:31] <Caliope> you should try to ID the on-bord graphics adaptor chip .. but I would start by doing a sudo apt-get install the extra graphics stuff
[01:31] <wilee-nilee> darryl, Post the text from that script in a pastebin
[01:31] <hoechts> calrogman, do you know why top | tail doesnt output anything?
[01:31] <darryl> pastebin?
[01:31] <Raerth> Caliope, will give it a shot
[01:32] <Caliope> are you telling top | tail WHERE to put the output?
[01:32] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin > darryl
[01:32] <darkelfjuggalo> Caliope: you lost me...
[01:32] <calrogman> hoechts: because putting top's stdout through a pipe is not a clever thing to do, and because tail doesn't print anything until it gets an EOF
[01:32] <Caliope> Oh!  secret messages behind my back!  Oh!  LOL
[01:33] <Caliope> never mind, it's a Girl Thing
[01:33] <hoechts> calrogman, so what should i do then instead of tail?
[01:33] <calrogman> well you could just, run top...
[01:33] <hoechts> calrogman, top is just an exmaple program that continously writes content...
[01:33] <hoechts> calrogman, how about handbrake?
[01:34] <darryl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1278166/
[01:34] <calrogman> as long as the program terminates at some point, tail will do the trick
[01:34] <hoechts> calrogman, if i'd like to get to know the status of a very long handbrake command
[01:34] <hoechts> calrogman, the program terminates after probably 13 hours...
[01:34] <darkelfjuggalo> Caliope: im lost becuase I have no winblows shit available at all the computer I'm trying to put ubuntu on
[01:34] <hoechts> but i want to know the status any time
[01:35] <IdleOne> !language | darkelfjuggalo
[01:35] <calrogman> if it doesn't tell you the status then no amount of | tailing it will help
[01:35] <Caliope> well why are we talking about windblows then????  You just want to put Ubuntu's 64-bit AMD distrobution on a workstation (computer)?? is that it?
[01:35] <hoechts> calrogman, so whats your suggestion?
[01:36] <calrogman> read the handbrake manual and see if you can make it more verbose
[01:36] <Caliope> Oh!  you mean "Windblows" is bad?  Oh!  My Bad!
[01:36] <hoechts> calrogman, ? the output of handbrake does me give all the information i want
[01:36] <wilee-nilee> darryl, The key to getting tis working is the efi setup, make sure you mention this, I'm not familiar with it.
[01:36] <Caliope> How about Window$ ?
[01:36] <hoechts> calrogman, but i want to run handbrake in the background..
[01:36] <wilee-nilee> this*
[01:36] <hoechts> calrogman, and if i do so, i do not get the output i want to know from time to time
[01:36] <bazhang> !ot | Caliope
[01:36] <darkelfjuggalo> CaliopeL: yes, i don't know how we got on winblows [win 7 was on it by default but that stripped in a failed attempt at putting ubuntu on there so i have no OS on the computer at all]
[01:37] <Caliope> neway,  if you are have downloaded and burned the 64-bit ISO then just do as I recommended and boot from the live CD then execute the "lnstall system" option
[01:37] <darryl> wilee-nilee: yeah thats what i'm thinking, i'm new to efi as well, if it were normal bios i know how to fix it
[01:37] <calrogman> hoechts: then handbrake > file 2>&1 and when you want to check the status, tail -f file
[01:37] <darryl> how do you change grub from uefi mode to legacy? anyone know?
[01:38] <hoechts> calrogman, what does >&1 do?
[01:38] <ULO-Plio> Waddup fishes!? HAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[01:38] <Caliope> O< if Win7 was stripped out, that's OK but it won't matter to the Live CD install .. you just tell it to do a new install and it will auto format everything, establish your HD and put in your /home, etc etc including your /sawp
[01:38] <cmdbbq> does anyone know how I would use fdisk to format an encrypted partition from an old ubuntu install? i have the data backed up, but I can't seem to get rid of it
[01:38] <doomlord_> in unity is it possible to combine expo and scale (eg show all windows from all workspaces; or better still, activating the two modes combines them like a 2 level zoom)
[01:39] <bazhang> ULO-Plio, ubuntu support question?
[01:39] <darkelfjuggalo> Caliope: I have several times... ONE install began and failed, this was created by pendriveinstaller.com ALL other attempts have told me 'linuximage.bin is missing or corrupt' OR 'no boot filename received' and exited from the installer
[01:39] <calrogman> hoechts: 2>&1 points file descriptor 2 (stderr) to file descriptor 1 (stdout), just so that if handbrake has any problems, they'll also get put in file
[01:39] <hoechts> calrogman, if i do so, ALL the output handbrake generates will be written to that file, which will let the file grow to several 100 MB
[01:40] <Caliope> I suspect that your DVD ISO is not intact .. it happens.  You should download and burn, then verify another CD -- be sure you d/l the "live" version of Ubuntu 64-bit AMD
[01:40] <ULO-Plio> bazhang: I'm planning on installing 12.04, but I was wondering if I'm going to have any issues with upgrading. I upgraded from Vista to W7, and my performance was terrible compared to a clean install and leftover files were everywhere. Will the same apply to 12.04 to 12.10?
[01:41] <ULO-Plio> I guess my question is really about whether it is safe or a good idea to install 12.04 first and then upgrade. Or should I just wait?
[01:41] <Caliope> install like there is no tomorrow .. you can auto upgrade when the times comes
[01:41] <bazhang> ULO-Plio, if you have doubts you should wait. my own upgrade went totally fine
[01:41] <darkelfjuggalo> im working on downloading that on now I think... ubuntu-12.04.1-dvd-amd64.iso
[01:42] <Caliope> personally, if I were wiping a Windows machine I would go with a complte reformat of the HD .. particularly if you have one of those proprietary machines that imbed a "rescue" sector
[01:42] <calrogman> well then don't run handbrake in the background, hoechts_
[01:42] <ScottNYC> quick question, in software updates colonical partners isnt checked by default, why is that? where are those updates coming from?
[01:43] <ULO-Plio> bahzang: thanks
[01:43] <calrogman> hoechts_: consider GNU Screen
[01:43] <hoechts_> calrogman, how shall i run handbrake not in the background when i have only access via ssh to that system and i do not want to run the ssh client 24/7 ?
[01:43] <Caliope> juggalo .. that's it .. make sure you run the checksum at the end to insure you have a complete and uncorrupted file
[01:43] <darkelfjuggalo> yea...nothing winblows is left on the machine, that includes the recovery partition
[01:43] <xangua> doomlord_: in compiz settings manager enable Scale Addons and you can zoom windows in scale view with your mouse right button
[01:43] <ULO-Plio> Caliope: Yeah, I formatted my drive when I went from Vista to W7. I ended up doing a clean install after my initial upgrade.
[01:43] <Caliope> good you have a Virgin HD then .. ready for Ubuntu to takes it's cherry
[01:44] <bazhang> !behelpful | Caliope
[01:44] <hoechts_> calrogman, wow i didnt think its that hard to write the output of a program to a file  ;-)  i guess i just deal with having a file > 300MB then
[01:44] <hash__> ok so im having trouble installing lubuntu thru the gui install is there a way that i can install thru termainal
[01:44] <Caliope> i bet you have those OT topics set into your F keys, right?
[01:45] <calrogman> or you could investigate GNU Screen, hoechts_, since just redirecting stdout isn't going to stop handbrake getting SIGHUP'd when you log out of your SSH session
[01:45] <bazhang> Caliope, stop it please
[01:45] <cmdbbq> fdisk gives me WARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 22: Invalid argument.
[01:45] <Caliope> ok, I will
[01:45] <ring1> is there a way in gnome3 to center the dash vertically in the activities overview?
[01:46] <darryl> ok i fixed both of my issues, with booting and with the weird video mode
[01:46] <darryl> to fix the dual-boot problem, i installed boot-repair and it reinstalled grub and configured it correctly
[01:46] <darkelfjuggalo> bazhang, she was actually helping me...i understood her better than I have everyone else in here
[01:46] <darryl> the weird video problem, i installed the nvidia drivers from a PPA
[01:48] <chio_> what would be a good solution to scale cpu freq based on cpu temperature, prevent cpu from overheating?
[01:49] <calrogman> hoechts_: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRLlsOZDX4k
[01:49] <hoechts_> calrogman, http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Screen?highlight=gnu%20screen or this?
[01:49] <hoechts_> calrogman, sry its german :&
[01:50] <calrogman> hoechts_: das ist nein ...problem...
[01:50] <hoechts_> calrogman, im from germany.. was just saying sorry for sending you a german link ;)
[01:51] <calrogman> hoechts_: i idle on iz-smart.de so i've picked up a bit of the language
[01:52] <calrogman> but yes, that's what i mean by GNU Screen
[01:52] <calrogman> hoechts_: although if i'm being honest, i prefer http://tmux.sourceforge.net/
[01:59] <hoechts_> calrogman, works... the screen output is not stored endlessly?
[01:59] <hoechts_> calrogman, not that it is killing my ram...
[02:00] <hoechts_> whatever .. gn8 ;)
[02:04] <calrogman> hoechts_: it's not stored endlessly no, the scrollback buffer is configurable though, so it can be increased
[02:06] <BSmaxScript[Maxi> vener sur irc-attitude.net ou sur le site http://www.irc-attitude.net/
[02:07] <atrius> anyone know of a PPA or something that has ovirt in it?
[02:07] <bazhang> BSmaxScript[Maxi, wrong place to post that
[02:07] <BSmaxScript[Maxi> vener sur irc-attitude.net ou sur le site http://www.irc-attitude.net/
[02:07] <bazhang> atrius, launchpad has a PPA search page
[02:08] <atrius> bazhang: i'll check there, thanks :)
[02:08] <Ray2> Trying to compile a program getting this error ....checking for GLIB - version >= 2.0.3... no
[02:09] <blackshirt> thats not error
[02:09] <trism> Ray2: libglib2.0-dev
[02:09] <Ray2> lots more below this saying no found
[02:10] <calrogman> Ray2: those aren't errors
[02:10] <zykotick9> Ray2: do you have build-essential installed?
[02:10] <Ray2> thanks trism
[02:10] <calrogman> Ray2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Configure_(computing)
[02:11] <Ray2> zyotick9..yes i downloaded build-essentials
[02:11] <zykotick9> Ray2: ok, just checking.  fyi, you might want to see "/msg ubottu tab".
[02:14] <darkelfjuggalo> I did md5sum on ubuntu-12.04.1-dvd-amd64.iso but I can't find some documentation telling me what the md5sum should me to verify... the md5sum.txt doesn't list the iso as a whole, just the individual component's in it
[02:18] <nydel> is there a way to just redraw the desktop / xwindows?
[02:18] <nydel> not restart but redraw
[02:21] <calrogman> darkelfjuggalo: ftp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/releases/precise/release/MD5SUMS
[02:31] <wangzh> I don't know.
[02:31] <lukas_> any one know how to install flash player on debian
[02:31] <lukas_> no tarballs
[02:32] <calrogman> add non-free and aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree, also ask debian questions in #debian
[02:32] <lukas_> apitue sucks why not apt-get
[02:32] <dsnyders> !hardware
[02:32] <zykotick9> lukas_: debian is ot here
[02:32] <calrogman> aptitude sucks? well thank you for that informative and detailed dissertation.
[02:33] <zykotick9> !aptitude | calrogman aptitude should be used on ubuntu
[02:33] <calrogman> lukas_: both apt and aptitude use libapt and atitude has a superior dependency resolution engine
[02:34] <zykotick9> calrogman: s/should/shouldn't/ sorry
[02:34] <xangua> zykotick9: should be or shoudn't ¿ :P
[02:34] <calrogman> well zykotick9, since lukas_ was asking about debian, he should be using aptitude
[02:34] <zykotick9> xangua: see above ;)
[02:34] <lukas_> last time i used that it messed up my computer never mind tho what url is the no free stuff
[02:34] <zykotick9> calrogman: you shouldn't be supporting debian here ;)
[02:35] <iceroot> calrogman: please dont use aptitude on ubuntu at the moment
[02:35] <iceroot> calrogman: it may break your system
[02:35] <lukas_> iceroot you are soo correct
[02:35] <iceroot> calrogman: because aptitude cant handle multiarch on ubuntu correctly at the moment and there are cases where it can break your system
[02:35] <squawk> is there a compabibility matrix for the XFX R6570 Core Edition video card with Ubuntu 11/12 ?
[02:35] <squawk> *6750
[02:35] <calrogman> like i said, iceroot, lukas_ is asking about debian, where aptitude happens to have multiarch support on unstable
[02:36] <lukas_> wht is the url fo non-free sources
[02:36] <zykotick9> calrogman: i don't think that's true!
[02:36] <calrogman> lukas_: http://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList
[02:36] <IdleOne> debian is off topic in this channel, take the support you want to provide him to #debian
[02:36] <lukas_> ty
[02:36] <Biomechd> hey, i was just on here yesterday, but now i'm having a "low-graphics mode" issue and i can't boot to my desktop.
[02:37] <lukas_> calrogman imean what is the url i put in the list
[02:38] <calrogman> lukas_, read the sources.list manpage and go to #debian for further support
[02:38] <bazhang> lukas_, for debian?
[02:39] <lukas_> ive tried #debian they told me wait till more pople come to the chanel or go somere else an ubunt is based off debian
[02:39] <IdleOne> lukas_: That doesn't mean you come to Ubuntu for help with debian
[02:39] <bazhang> lukas_, DONT ask for debian support here
[02:40] <lukas_> k alredy got what i needed
[02:40] <calrogman> there are >1000 people in #debian, i doubt they told you to "wait until more people arrive"
[02:40] <squawk> i'm running ubuntu 11.10 i686, is there an issue with the XFX R6750 video card, or is this fixed in 12.04.1 LTS?
[02:40] <Biomechd> bazhang: i know i'm here for a different issue, but what about when your ubuntu runs .deb packages?
[02:40] <lukas_> well they did only one guy was talking thast what he said
[02:41] <dsnyders> Hi all!  I'm considering an Asus GeForce GTX650TI graphics card, and I want to know if ubuntu supports it.  Where can I find out?
[02:41] <zykotick9> Biomechd: ubuntu != debian, mint != ubuntu - derivatives are not the same as..
[02:41] <lukas_> dsy do a google search
[02:41] <calrogman> that's not helpful lukas_
[02:42] <lukas_> *dsnyders do a google search
[02:42] <calrogman> that's the sort of support you'd see in ##slackware
[02:42] <lukas_> ok
[02:42] <squawk> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards
[02:42] <dsnyders> lukas_, I've been googling for the past half hour.  All I get is review sites that have links to linux related news.
[02:43] <lukas_> here ill help
[02:43] <IdleOne> hey lukas_ Why didn't you do a google search when you needed help?
[02:43] <darkelfjuggalo> ok that ISO cleared the MD5SUM check as being correct... I wrote it to my USB drive using the Cat Command, and went to run the installer 'isolinux.bin is missing or corrupt'
[02:44] <lukas_> i did for 1 hour
[02:44] <IdleOne> ah, but you assumed he didn't
[02:44] <zykotick9> darkelfjuggalo: are you using the livecd or server/alternate/mini?
[02:44] <lukas_> well sorry
[02:45] <IdleOne> lukas_: Don't tell anybody to search, if you want to help that is fine, if you don't then don't.
[02:45] <darkelfjuggalo> livedvd
[02:45] <Biomechd> how can i disable a repository source from the login terminal?
[02:45] <lukas_> k
[02:45] <darkelfjuggalo> I have tried Desktop and Alternate with the same results, I have even unetbootin 10.04 and tried that with the exact same result
[02:45] <calrogman> dsnyders: The GTX650 was released in September and Ubuntu has no major version updates to packages, so no, a GTX650 won't be supported in 12.04.  Wait until 12.10.
[02:46] <calrogman> Biomechd: read the source.list manpage, then edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:46] <IdleOne> Biomechd: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add a # at the beginning of the line, save the file, run sudo apt-get update.
[02:46] <squawk> calrogman: what about the XFX R6750, I don't see it on here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsAti
[02:47] <lukas_> hey everyone sould check this out xmonad.com
[02:47] <squawk> lukas_: darcs/xmonad is pretty sweet
[02:47] <Biomechd> yes, i get that much calrogman and IdleOne, but what's the command? i'm a GUI user, not a terminal user. my only terminal knowledge is installing/uninstalling programs so far.
[02:47] <lukas_> yay im using it right now
[02:47] <lukas_> *ya
[02:47] <calrogman> squawk: seeing as that's just a radeon 6750, in the Northern Islands family, released in October 2010, i'd expect it to work
[02:48] <IdleOne> Biomechd: nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:48] <squawk> calrogman: well it spins the fan, but nothing in lspci/lshw to indicate that it was detected
[02:48] <cecy> cecy
[02:48] <Biomechd> IdleOne: and if the .list file is in sources.list.d?
[02:48] <IdleOne> Biomechd: nano /etc/apt/sources.list.d/file-name
[02:49] <Biomechd> IdleOne: thanks
[02:49] <squawk> is there a specific kernel module or backport that i'll need to get it to be detected?
[02:49] <dsnyders> calrogman, Thanks for the info.
[02:50] <IdleOne> Biomechd: add sudo to the beginning of that command
[02:50] <darkelfjuggalo> seriously a day and a f'n half, I'm failing a class becuase of this da/\/\ned 64-bit processor
[02:50] <IdleOne> Biomechd: or you won't be able to save the file after editing
[02:50] <calrogman> darkelfjuggalo: how much RAM do you have anyway?
[02:50] <dsnyders> !nvidia
[02:50] <darkelfjuggalo> on the machine I'm working on? 8GB DDR3
[02:50] <IdleOne> darkelfjuggalo: if you can't right the word properly, don't write it at all.
[02:50] <Biomechd> IdleOne: also, i'd like to know why every site i've looked at says ctrl+alt+f1 when for me it's f2.
[02:50] <calrogman> squawk: try fglrx
[02:51] <IdleOne> Biomechd: F1- F2 same thing.
[02:51] <squawk> calrogman: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ?
[02:51] <darkelfjuggalo> IdleOne, I wrote it properly before and got a language complaint, so I thought I'd be nice
[02:51] <calrogman> squawk: ja
[02:51] <squawk> tyty
[02:52] <IdleOne> darkelfjuggalo: obfuscating swear words doesn't make them nice. Please just avoid cursing all together in here
[02:53] <squawk> actually i might have disabled the pcie video in the BIOS :\
[02:53] <calrogman> haha, excellent squawk, at least it's an easy fix!
[02:53] <darkelfjuggalo> IdleOne cursing? all I'm doing is condemning this infernal Archetecture
[02:54] <OerHeks> darkelfjuggalo, stop it.
[02:54] <lukas_> wait calrogman you are on #ubuntu and #debian
[02:54] <zykotick9> darkelfjuggalo: fyi amd64 is light years ahead of i686.  don't reply, i won't see it.
[02:54] <calrogman> lukas_: i joined at 03:40:03 (BST)
[02:55] <squawk> looks like AMD has a driver for it at http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.42&lang=English if that doesn't work
[02:55] <lukas_> calrogman so you are on both?
[02:56] <jason__> Hey, uh, my computer is kinda half-broken and now it won't let me get packages. Any help? I can post the error message if that helps
[02:56] <calrogman> yeah that tends to help jason__, use a pastebin
[02:56] <koolguydude> pastebin?
[02:56] <calrogman> !pastebin | koolguydude
[02:57] <darkelfjuggalo> amd64 is hell to work with, I never thought it would be this bad even when people told me it would be worse... Now, is everyone going to complain about my speech or is someone going to try to be productive? [calrogman and Caliope so far have been the only two remotely helping me, and someone ran off Caliope]
[02:57] <squawk> also consider wgetpaste
[02:57] <koolguydude> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1278229/
[02:58] <calrogman> darkelfjuggalo: ubuntu has PAE, so if you're not concerned about a process only being able to use 4 GB of RAM at a time, you can still utilise all 8 GB of RAM (with several processes) using the 32-bit install
[02:58] <lukas_> kool did you mess whit sources
[02:58] <zykotick9> calrogman: pae is a hack IMO
[02:58] <koolguydude> I'm not sure
[02:58] <calrogman> zykotick9: what isn't?
[02:58] <koolguydude> how do I reset those?
[02:59] <lukas_> one sec
[02:59] <darkelfjuggalo> you mean I can use a 32-bit install and save myself the headache?
[02:59] <calrogman> yes, if you're okay with a process only having 4 GB or addressable RAM
[02:59] <darkelfjuggalo> why is it going to take half of my ram?
[02:59] <calrogman> performance will be slightly reduced too, since you won't be utilising all of the processors features, but it'd still work
[03:00] <lukas_> here http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[03:00] <calrogman> a single process on a 32-bit system can only see 4 GB of RAM, darkelfjuggalo, but the kernel can provide access to up to 64 GB of RAM using PAE
[03:00] <dsnyders> darkelfjuggalo, 2^32 = 4G,
[03:00] <squawk> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension#Page_table_structures
[03:01] <Enchilada> the latest version of apache on Ubuntu 10.04 (my machine) is 2.2.14
[03:01] <calrogman> dsnyders: 2^32-1 ;)
[03:01] <Enchilada> How can I find out the latest apache version on Ubuntu 12, without upgrading?
[03:01] <lukas_> just do top ones Main - Officially supported software. ?
[03:01] <lukas_>  Main Sources Repository
[03:01] <lukas_>  Restricted - Supported software that is not available under a completely free license. ?
[03:01] <lukas_>  Restricted Sources Repository
[03:01] <lukas_>  Universe - Community-maintained, i.e. not officially supported software. ?
[03:01] <FloodBot1> lukas_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:01] <lukas_>  Universe Sources Repository
[03:01] <calrogman> Enchilada: check http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[03:01] <zykotick9> !info apache2 lucid | Enchilada yes it is
[03:02] <Biomechd> IdleOne and calrogman, thanks for the help.
[03:02] <darkelfjuggalo> it seems to be my only option aside from returning to winblows...but i need ALL of my RAM in order to use the programs I need for school...
[03:03] <dsnyders> darkelfjuggalo, Just curious... have you looked into virtual machines?
[03:03] <lukas_> vbox is best
[03:03] <Enchilada> fuuu i need apache 2.3.10
[03:03] <Enchilada> that's not in 12
[03:03] <dragomir> howdy everyone - i just installed ubuntu 12.04 on my mac 8,1 and I am loving it! I am having some issues with the touchpad and was wondering if someone can help me.
[03:04] <dragomir> The major concern is I want to disable the three button mouse window drag.
[03:04] <dragomir> How can I do this?
[03:04] <calrogman> darkelfjuggalo: just noticed something important: USB devices use El Torito emulation to allow you to boot cd images from them.  DVD images are structured differently.  Try using the CD .iso instead of the DVD .iso
[03:04] <darkelfjuggalo> dsnyders : my school requires Winblows, i hate it, I was going to Virtual Machine that on my Linux so i don't have to maintain antivirus BS
[03:04] <calrogman> darkelfjuggalo: using a virtual machine you could use snapshots to revert to a known good state, no need for an antivirus in a VM
[03:05] <darkelfjuggalo> Calrogman ; DVD iso is how I use my debian on the same flash drive [I store DVD 1 of the complete set, and run that like I would a Netinstall]
[03:05] <darkelfjuggalo> Calrogman: I know thats whay I want to VM the Winblows rather than my linux
[03:06] <calrogman> darkelfjuggalo: how exactly are you copying the DVD image to the USB drive?
[03:06] <calrogman> as in, which commands are you running
[03:07] <squawk> dragomir: is this what you're looking for: http://mac.linux.be/content/tuning-ubuntu-macintosh-key-mapping-and-3-mouse-button-emulation-0
[03:07] <dragomir> perfect!
[03:08] <dragomir> thanks squawk!
[03:08] <squawk> np
[03:09] <Nautilus> for PHP debugging and web dev (sass/compass) I'm thinking of NetBeans ... seem reasonable?
[03:09] <squawk> error debugging or performance profiling?
[03:09] <darkelfjuggalo> With Debian[x86], I just Cat .iso > USB_Drive ... with Ubuntu i have cat .iso > USB_Drive [Result: isolinux.bin missing or corrupt], I have unetbootin [Result: isolinux.bin missing or corrupt] and I have pendriveinstaller [result: begin installation>Fail to detect networking hardware>Fail consecutive steps up to and including software install]
[03:11] <calrogman> darkelfjuggalo: try using `dd if=.iso of=/dev/USB_Drive` and if that doesn't work, use the CD image
[03:11] <Tasmania> I'm really starting to love ubuntu! :D
[03:11] <darkelfjuggalo> someone suggested that earleir and lost me
[03:12] <squawk> darkelfjuggalo: at which part?
[03:12] <Tasmania> Especially the fact that I can edit my own shell script. :D
[03:12] <darkelfjuggalo> ok they just said to 'dd' and gave no instruction beyond that
[03:13] <squawk> dd is a shell command designed to run in gnome-terminal (or your preferred terminal)
[03:13] <squawk> the basic syntax is dd if=SOURCE of=DESTINATION
[03:13] <calrogman> don't get those the wrong way around, or it will destroy your data
[03:13] <squawk> ^
[03:14] <squawk> a good way to remember is if (in file), of (out file)
[03:14] <calrogman> that's exactly why they're called if and of
[03:15] <squawk> there's nuances beyond those two arguments for various purposes
[03:15] <squawk> but you shouldn't need to mess with any other options
[03:15] <darkelfjuggalo> will DD reformat the drive before installing?
[03:15] <darkelfjuggalo> before writing^
[03:15] <squawk> no
[03:15] <dragomir> squawk thanks for the info but didnt quite do it
[03:16] <dragomir> trying to disable third button option
[03:16] <darkelfjuggalo> just write over the existing file?
[03:16] <dragomir> hate that my fingers get lazy and end up moving windows around
[03:16] <calrogman> it'll totally replace the MBR of the disk, so that's not a concern darkelfjuggalo
[03:16] <darkelfjuggalo> ok kool
[03:16] <squawk> it won't 'wipe' the drive
[03:16] <dsnyders> darkelfjuggalo, if you're trying to put a bootable linux on a USB, I suggest looking at the pendrivelinux site.
[03:17] <darkelfjuggalo> dsynders : I did pendriveinstaller earlier [result: begin installation>Fail to detect networking hardware>Fail consecutive steps up to and including software install]
[03:17] <squawk> dragomir: you may have to play around with `xev` to find the correct keycode, then mess with sysctl.conf given the context of the entries on that page
[03:18] <squawk> it's not by any means a 'fix'
[03:18] <agrestringere> whats up Ubuntu people...have a question I have three partitions on my hard drive and would like to install TWO Ubuntu versions so I can have a totally different self contained system running Unity and then a totally self contained system running XFCE so that they stay out of each others way...I want my partitions to look like this [WinXP][Ubuntu Unity][Ubuntu XFCE][swap]
[03:19] <calrogman> darkelfjuggalo: here's a (slightly doctored) transcript of me writing a .iso to a usb drive: http://paste.debian.net/plain/200149
[03:19] <agrestringere> so how do I do this?
[03:19] <squawk> agrestringere: very carefully
[03:19] <squawk> install windows first
[03:19] <calrogman> or second
[03:19] <calrogman> just not last
[03:19] <agrestringere> Windows and Xubuntu (XFCE) done
[03:20] <agrestringere> I'm just wondering about the third
[03:20] <squawk> IME windows overwrites the bootloader
[03:20] <calrogman> it does squawk
[03:20] <agrestringere> squawk, I learned this the hard way this weekend...:-)
[03:20] <dsnyders> darkelfjuggalo, ah... that sucks.  I've always had pretty good luck with the pendrivelinux stuff.
[03:20] <squawk> ow
[03:21] <agrestringere> Had to start from scratch, so now I want to install the final system the Ubuntu 12.04 running Unity to the last partition...[Windows][Ubuntu???][Xubuntu]
[03:22] <agrestringere> How do I do this?
[03:22] <calrogman> again, carefully
[03:22] <squawk> you might consider running virtualbox on winxp
[03:22] <darkelfjuggalo> umm is Sync a required command in the writing to finalize it?
[03:23] <agrestringere> Virtual box and Unity don't play well in my experience which is why I'm going this crazy way of doing it
[03:23] <squawk> darkelfjuggalo: shouldn't be, dd is a direct block-level copy utility
[03:23] <calrogman> i'd advise you run the sync, darkelfjuggalo
[03:23] <squawk> couldn't hurt
[03:23] <calrogman> else you might end up removing the usb drive before the IO cache is flushed
[03:24] <darkelfjuggalo> ok can I run the sync after it's written[mid-process already]
[03:24] <squawk> ooo good point
[03:24] <calrogman> yes, and you don't need to be root to run it
[03:24] <calrogman> any user can sync, since it's totally safe
[03:24] <darkelfjuggalo> ok just '$ sync' to do it?
[03:24] <squawk> yep
[03:25] <darkelfjuggalo> i wonder is lack of sync was my problem when I used cat?
[03:25] <calrogman> doubt it
[03:26] <agrestringere> calrogman: what can I do?
[03:26] <squawk> openbox?
[03:26] <squawk> vmware player
[03:26] <calrogman> agrestringere: install windows first, using the partitioner in the install disk to leave lots of free space at the end of the disk
[03:27] <calrogman> once you've installed windows, fire up the ubuntu installer, and during the partitioning stage, again, leave free space at the end
[03:28] <calrogman> then start installing xubuntu and have that occupy the free space that's left
[03:28] <squawk> occupy the space! free the mallocs()!
[03:29] <agrestringere> carlrogman: did that, and also installed  the Xubuntu so it looks like this currently [Windows][--------][Xubuntu][swap]
[03:29] <calrogman> install ubuntu in the free space then agrestringere
[03:29] <lukas_> http://www.google.com/imgres?q=toaster+computer&hl=en&sa=X&biw=1278&bih=710&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=gHE6ZTfQRxvL3M:&imgrefurl=http://www.ohgizmo.com/2008/08/04/frakkin-computer-toasters/&docid=1sa80FcaiUm1RM&imgurl=http://www.ohgizmo.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/toasterpc_2.jpg&w=450&h=338&ei=QzF6UOOBOYyCrQGe8oH4DA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=199&vpy=155&dur=926&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=114&ty=121&sig=113197692062506701461&page=1&tbnh=145&tbnw=217&start=0&ndsp=20&ved=1t
[03:29] <squawk> whoa
[03:29] <lukas_> sorry
[03:29] <squawk> at least that was 1 line
[03:29] <lukas_> did not know it was that long
[03:30] <mneptok> long or not, it's offtopic
[03:30] <lukas_> so?
[03:30] <mneptok> !ot
[03:30] <bazhang> lukas_, so dont post it here
[03:30] <lukas_> o..k
[03:31] <agrestringere> calrogman: but how do I do that with the installer?  Do I a) Choose that empty partition then b) select "mount / here" c) then say "install boot partition to the sda where the empty space is?"
[03:31] <kindrudekid> can any one help me with Ubuntu Socftware center?
[03:31] <bazhang> lukas_, this is support ONLY
[03:31] <kindrudekid> http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/11f4f8/cannot_redeem_my_old_humble_indie_bundle_on_usc/
[03:31] <agrestringere> btw lukas_: sick.
[03:31] <agrestringere> The toaster thing is awesome
[03:31] <squawk> yes, it is, but alas, #ubuntu-offtopic pls
[03:32] <agrestringere> Put that in the kitchen and drill the monitor into a wall....[last comment on subject]
[03:32] <Nautilus> is there a command line way to launch the GUI version of aptitude? Not the command line text-based GUI, the graphic one
[03:32] <robertzaccour> When I install fglrx driver, it zooms out my screen. By that I mean it shrinks my display leaving about a half inch of black between the edge of the picture display and the bevel of the monitor. any suggestions?
[03:32] <squawk> Nautilus: update-manager ?
[03:32] <kindrudekid> install synaptic
[03:32] <squawk> or ya synaptic
[03:32] <robertzaccour> Is it possible to scale the display?
[03:32] <blackshirt> nautilus, aptitude-gtk
[03:32] <kindrudekid> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[03:32] <robertzaccour> Is display scaling possible in Ubuntu?
[03:33] <kindrudekid> http://i.imgur.com/mu33c.png
[03:33] <kindrudekid> why m i getting this?
[03:34] <Nautilus> oh, I think synaptic is what I wanted - might have asked the wrong Q
[03:35] <squawk> alright ladies and germs, here goes 11.10 -> 12.04.1 LTS, hopefully will be back shortly
[03:35] <ejv> i went from 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS
[03:35] <ejv> what a mistake that was...
[03:35] <squawk> :\
[03:36] <Vernon> How do I increase the resolution to 1366x768, my laptop's max resolution in windows with 12.04. xrandr results: http://pastebin.com/14EiFXNK
[03:36] <Vernon> Integrated i3 graphics.
[03:36] <Vernon> 2nd gen
[03:36] <blackshirt> ejv, i think ubuntu was not rolling release distro, and you would get some troubles if you trying to do that
[03:36] <darkelfjuggalo> -.- can someone direct me to the CD images...
[03:37] <ejv> well, here's the thing, it turns out the stock kernel that was shipped with 12.04.0 carried a pretty fatal md-raid bug. it wrecked my storage array.
[03:37] <blackshirt> darkelfjuggalo,  a lot of places available for you
[03:37] <Vernon> darkelfjuggalo: for which "flavor"?
[03:37] <squawk> ejv: mdadm ?
[03:37] <calrogman> darkelfjuggalo: they're all available from ftp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/
[03:37] <ejv> yes
[03:38] <squawk> tis why i prefer hw raid if possible, lsi/3ware is pretty dandy for my raid10
[03:38] <squawk> but only if there's a bbu, write cache disabled
[03:38] <ejv> i was able to reconstruct it, it's fixed in 12.04.1, but I was unlucky and upgraded too early. lesson: if it's not broke, don't upgrade. :)
[03:38] <calrogman> darkelfjuggalo: ftp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/releases/precise/release/
[03:38] <ejv> i didn't lose anything, just a big hassle.
[03:38] <squawk> also backups
[03:39] <squawk> btw guys, if you use ddr3 ram
[03:39] <squawk> best buy has 4G DDR3 sticks on sale for $14
[03:39] <SageX> hey mauwk
[03:40] <SageX> lol the south georgia (usa) heat fried my asus p6t
[03:40] <squawk> SC ain't much better
[03:40] <SageX> I got property in that fine country
[03:41] <SageX> speaaking of sc who won that game tonight
[03:41] <nydel> anyone know how to add skype support to pidgin
[03:41] <darkelfjuggalo> nothing is labeled CD...
[03:41] <Nautilus> Does this seem like an appropriate install for a sass/compass environment I believe it also includes the required ruby stuff):  sudo apt-get install libcompass-ruby1.8
[03:41] <squawk> dunno didn't watch
[03:42] <SageX> lsu won the game
[03:42] <squawk> ^ figures
[03:42] <SageX> 23-21
[03:42] <squawk> ok guys, reboot time
[03:42] <SageX> later squawk
[03:42] <squawk> brb.. hopefully
[03:43] <ProfOak_> My friend is having an error with her sudoers file. It says there's an error in one of the lines. I read that the su account is disabled in ubuntu. Is this true? Is there a way to fix the sudoers file or does she need to reinstall?
[03:43] <robertzaccour> Is display scaling possible in Ubuntu? I have a black border around my screen when installing flgrx drivers
[03:43] <calrogman> darkelfjuggalo: http://mirror.sov.uk.goscomb.net/ubuntu-releases//precise/ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[03:43] <robertzaccour> *fglrx
[03:43] <darkelfjuggalo> that was the FIRST iso i used
[03:43] <SageX> threw out the last of my hard drives
[03:44] <SageX> live cds all the way
[03:44] <V13Axel> I changed from an Nvidia card to an ATI card that doesn't support FGLRX, and I was wondering how to manually enable the Radeon drivers or an equal alternative.
[03:46] <janat08> hi
[03:46] <ProfOak_> Nevermind, I forgot you don't need a password if you jump on a liveCD.
[03:47] <darkelfjuggalo> calrogman : I have this exact iso already saved...
[03:47] <janat08> is it possible to create live from your OS (create an image of your booted OS)
[03:47] <janat08> *live cd
[03:47] <Nautilus> in synaptic I see libcompass-ruby and libcompass-ruby1.8 ... why two? How to decide what to do?
[03:47] <squawk> yey
[03:47] <squawk> so, it wasn't disabled, but it wasn't the default either
[03:48] <squawk> so ubuntu 12.04.1LTS is now booted with the primary video as the new card in the BIOS, but the DVI cable is plugged into the onboard video port, so calrogman am I right in assuming that it should be detected?
[03:50] <calrogman> squawk: if it's using the discrete graphics card, the onboard DVI port will not be enabled
[03:50] <robertzaccour> Is display scaling possible in Ubuntu? I have a black border around my screen when installing fglrx drivers
[03:50] <calrogman> well, it could be, if you wrote a xorg.conf to handle it
[03:50] <janat08> is it possible to create live cd from your OS (create an image of your booted OS)
[03:51] <V13Axel> janat08: Yes, there is a way. It's called remastersys, google it.
[03:51] <squawk> does fglrx have such a facility (like nvidia-xconfig for nVidia cards)
[03:52] <penguinman> amdcccle is the equivalent for ati cards
[03:52] <penguinman> shows as catalyst control center in the menus
[03:55] <squawk> amd-driver-installer-12-9-beta-x86.x86_64.run so i am running this to install the driver, and it gives me "Your graphics adapter is not supported by this driver.  Installation will not proceed"
[03:55] <squawk> ah
[03:55] <squawk> answered my own question
[03:56] <MonMotha> is there a way to convince the netinst to pull packages (specific ones or everything - doesn't really matter) from proposed when installing the base system?  I'm suffering from a bug in eglibc that causes a crash during that process but which is known to be fixed in -proposed. (installing precise)
[04:01] <lukas_> hey
[04:09] <zykotick9> MonMotha: 1) it's mini, not netinstall (netinstall is debian) 2) re proprosed from mini - i hope not.  proposed should be used ONLY when needed, not for everything in that repo.
[04:10] <Nautilus> in synaptic, what does it mean when there is an ubuntu logo next to a package name?  It's in the default ubuntu repo?
[04:10] <MonMotha> zykotick9: yes, the mini, sorry (I'm used to Debian).  And I do need to install at least eglibc from -proposed during the base system install, though yes I would rather not bring in everything.
[04:11] <zykotick9> MonMotha: i hope you have reported a bug.  best of luck man.
[04:11] <MonMotha> zykotick9: the bug is known and fixed in -proposed, which is why I want to install eglibc from -proposed
[04:16] <CrazyGir> resolv.conf notes that it is autogenerated and not to edit it directly. the man page doesn't mention anything about this, unless I overlooked. who is autogenerating resolv.conf and how can you add details to include?
[04:20] <Vernon> Does anyone know anything about an intel i810 fails to support SMP issue?
[04:21] <Vernon> Ubuntu 12.04, fully up-to-date.
[04:23] <crimsonmane> So I'm reading reviews on motherboards on newegg, specifically a Gigabyte mobo, that constantly mention usb ports not working until you fetch the drivers using another computer and am wondering if that's a MS-Windows problem only, or if the same issue would exist with linux. Any thoughts? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128544
[04:24] <Vernon> crimsonmane: Hopefully, it should "just work".
[04:25] <crimsonmane> hopefully. In a perfect world, they withheld the drivers from MS and laughed about it... but if they're generally not providing code to anyone, then I imagine the problem is universal.
[04:25] <creede> crimsonmane, I just got a different Gigabit mobo from Newegg last week and the USB drivers just worked straight out of the box on 12.04LTS.
[04:25] <crimsonmane> awesome creede
[04:26] <creede> I've never heard of any USB chip that needed a proprietary driver to work, but first time for everything, I guess.
[04:26] <crimsonmane> yes it's strange.
[04:26] <Vernon> Agreed.
[04:26] <crimsonmane> i think it's usb3.0 maybe? perhaps they were xp users.
[04:27] <crimsonmane> creede: are we reading "gigabyte" and thinking that's the same as "gigabit"?
[04:27] <darkelfjuggalo> calrogman, you here?
[04:28] <creede> Yeah I meant Gigabit - sorry about that :-)
[04:29] <creede> or Gigabyte, whichever, hold on
[04:29] <calrogman> darkelfjuggalo
[04:30] <creede> At least I wasn't misspelling "MSI" :-)
[04:30] <crimsonmane> :)
[04:30] <creede> Here's the link to the mobo I got: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128519
[04:30] <crimsonmane> oh you're an AMD fan
[04:31] <creede> I wouldn't say "fan" necessarily, although I like AMD processors just fine. This just happened to be part of a Shell Shocker deal bundled with a 6 core Bulldozer CPU
[04:32] <ivy> How can I tell which graphics driver is installed?
[04:32] <darkelfjuggalo> calrogman,  yea... so with that file you have me download, i already had it, but I downloaded again... error with the download[not a message i got the first time] I used the first download and dd to the usb drive... this time no issue with isolinux.bin but still 'no boot filename received'
[04:33] <stef_> Hi!
[04:33] <LOWLT> I'm new to linux and trying to setup a SSH tunnel can anyone help?
[04:33] <calrogman> sorry darkelfjuggalo, i have no idea what's wrong and can't help you
[04:33] <crimsonmane> creede: yeah i'm looking at this 125w eight core cpu in the suggested products below your mobo.... drooling
[04:33] <creede> ivy: as root run lshw and look for the entry that describes your video card. It should list the driver.
[04:33] <stef_> Can anyone help with what the SSH command is to log in from one comp to another DLAN
[04:33] <stef_> WLAN*
[04:34] <creede> crimsonmane, That's the one I wanted but I got a good deal on its little brother. CPU/mobo/case/PS/8GB memory for $300
[04:34] <crimsonmane> stef_: "ssh username@192.168.1.54
[04:34] <crimsonmane> i'm not sold on 125 watts yet.
[04:34] <stef_> Thank you crimsonmane
[04:34] <simplew> when in nautilus i enter in /run directory it says i have 1.7GB free, but /run isnt in separate partition, and i have 11GB free in root, so why is saying thats only 1.7GB when entering in /run ??? any hint?
[04:35] <darkelfjuggalo> any clue what I could be missing?
[04:35] <creede> Mine runs 95 watts. It's running below 40 deg. C, fully loaded and not even breaking a sweat - chromium, thunderbird, a couple of ham radio programs that are doing FFTs and of course xchat
[04:36] <crimsonmane> i'm building a mid-level gaming system for the wife. she's got a 95watt intel cpu and i wanted to decrease the watts.
[04:37] <creede> simplew, run is a separate type of virtual file system that has nothing to do with how much room is free on your HD.
[04:37] <creede> crimsonmane, I should have bought two of these. My wife is using an ancient system to run WIn7 and it is constantly giving her grief.
[04:37] <stef_> How do you chat within SSH
[04:37] <crimsonmane> darkelfjuggalo: try using UNETBOOTIN to create your bootable usb or cd
[04:38] <crimsonmane> creede: you can have this old mobo/cpu when i'm done with it
[04:38] <creede> stef_, ssh is just a way of connecting. Once you connect to the other computer and have a prompt, you can use whatever chat program is on the other computer to chat.
[04:38] <simplew> creede: /run is in swap ?
[04:38] <crimsonmane> stef_: that's not what ssh is for
[04:39] <stef_> How do you chat using SSH command line in terminal MAC OS X
[04:39] <darkelfjuggalo> I did... I've tried the 10.04 on file for unetbootin, I've tried the file your just had me install, and I've tried Debian 6.0.6 all have the isolinux.bin is missing or corrupt error
[04:40] <creede> simplew, I think it lives in memory which means it could end up in swap. Maybe. I'm a bit fuzzy on how /run works.
[04:40] <crimsonmane> darkelfjuggalo: are you doing this from a microsoft computer?
[04:40] <creede> crimsonmane, send it right over, I'll figure out something to do with it. I'm sort of like a stray dog man when it comes to computers. :-)
[04:41] <simplew> any hint on how put dd burning faster?
[04:41] <darkelfjuggalo> no I'm doing this from a Debian Squeeze
[04:41] <LOWLT> Im trying to setup a SSH tunnel like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1882799 but in linux instead of Copssh on windows
[04:41] <cortexA9> how to make a distro ?
[04:41] <creede> simplew: Are you burning a CD with dd or  something?
[04:42] <simplew> creede: burning an iso
[04:43] <darkelfjuggalo> calrogman , in case you missed, I'm doing the unetbootin and the dd all on a debian squeeze
[04:43] <creede> simplew: Hm. I usually just use something like brasero but I think there's a switch you can send to the CD to speed up the burning speed.
[04:43] <calrogman> that doesn't matter much darkelfjuggalo
[04:44] <darkelfjuggalo> calrogman you asked if i was using a windows machine
[04:44] <simplew> creede: yes there is, the bs flag but i dont know which would be the most apropriated value
[04:44] <Dataholic> is there an App on ubuntu to remove/uninstall packages installed by default? i would like to trim down my installation
[04:44] <calrogman> dd and unetbootin are the same on Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora, Windows, NetBSD...
[04:44] <calrogman> actually, i'm not sure unetbootin is on the BSDs
[04:44] <simplew> calrogman: i hate unetbootin
[04:44] <calrogman> but if it is, it works the same
[04:44] <calrogman> as do i simplew
[04:45] <creede> Dataholic, you can do that with synaptic, but you have to be careful you don't uninstall something you actually need
[04:45] <simplew> i used bs=1M and its already burned 1GB
[04:45] <celthunder> calrogman: why not just use dd..much better than unetbootin
[04:45] <calrogman> they do different jobs celthunder
[04:46] <unsobill> is there free online chess game in ubuntu ?
[04:46] <darkelfjuggalo> calrogman ; either way, my AMD64 refuses to recognize a linux installer
[04:46] <crimsonmane> darkelfjuggalo: put the HDD into another computer, install linux, update the system completely, then return the HDD to the original computer.
[04:46] <Dataholic> creed: thanks creed, i tried to install ubuntu by using the minimal iso, and repack the iso with remastersys, but the image grows to 3GB on my vmware workstation
[04:46] <calrogman> your arcitecture doesn't matter much either, really
[04:47] <darkelfjuggalo> it's a laptop that i just bought yesterday
[04:47] <calrogman> amd64 is just i386 with bigger words and more opcodes
[04:47] <crimsonmane> darkelfjuggalo: same solution
[04:47] <crimsonmane> darkelfjuggalo: which ISO did you download, 32bit or 64 bit?
[04:47] <darkelfjuggalo> 64 bit
[04:47] <crimsonmane> darkelfjuggalo: try 32bit
[04:47] <calrogman> and unetbootin isn't on the BSDs, i've concluded
[04:47] <poedragonwarrior> hello, I cannot get Ubuntu to boot on a new system build
[04:47] <poedragonwarrior> nothing I do seems to work
[04:48] <darkelfjuggalo> i was told i could use 32 bit but i lose half of my RAM
[04:48] <creede> Dataholic, in that case I'd just reinstall with a minimal system from the alternate CD and then just install the apps you really need. But if you do that you may pull in a lot of unexpected libs and the like that could balloon your install over 3GB
[04:48] <calrogman> you don't lost half your ram darkelfjuggalo
[04:48] <poedragonwarrior> darkelfjuggalo, lies pae uses up to 64 gig of ram
[04:48] <creede> (example: installing any X application pulls in all of Ubuntu's X libraries)
[04:48] <calrogman> what happens is that a single process can only have 4 GB of RAM to itself
[04:48] <crimsonmane> darkelfjuggalo: are you sure that your cpu is 64 bit?
[04:48] <poedragonwarrior> it is a UEFI system from asrock, secureboot disabled yadda yadda yet it will not boot
[04:49] <darkelfjuggalo> when trying to make a USB installer for ubuntu on the win 7 that was originally installed... it automatically pulled 64 bit
[04:50] <poedragonwarrior> there will be an update to pae to enable up to 128gb of ram because there is so little difference between 32 bit and what people refer to as 64 bit (which in reality is only 38 bit dwords running in a 48bit enviornment) 32 bit runs 32 bit dwords in a 48 bit enviornment so all you actually see is a 10-20% speed increase in best case scenarios
[04:50] <poedragonwarrior> in fact real 64 bit hasnt been used since 2001
[04:51] <poedragonwarrior> in most cases you will see performance actually decrease in 64 bit mode
[04:51] <poedragonwarrior> since the dwords being written to the ram have to be twice the size
[04:51] <crimsonmane> the only bonus to 64bit was supposed to be execution prevention
[04:52] <SwedeMike> 64 bit mode isn't about speed increase, it's to get application to be able to address more than 2 gigs of ram (single process)
[04:52] <poedragonwarrior> which is coming to 32
[04:52] <poedragonwarrior> wrong again
[04:52] <crimsonmane> yeah hi offtopic
[04:52] <poedragonwarrior> because 32 bit applications can run in 4gbs of ram
[04:52] <creede> My new system upgraded a single 1.8GHz 32 bit processor to six 3.8GHz 64 bit cores so yeah I saw a performance increase :-)
[04:52] <calrogman> darkelfjuggalo: `if grep 'flags.*lm' /proc/cpuinfo > /dev/null; then echo 64-bit; else echo 32-bit; fi`
[04:52] <darkelfjuggalo> i've always been told 64-bit is a pain in the A**...and it's proven to be
[04:53] <darkelfjuggalo> calrogman, what is that?
[04:53] <calrogman> darkelfjuggalo: the 32-bit installation media wouldn't work for you either i'd bet
[04:53] <poedragonwarrior> once you get beyond real bit addresses you can run in 6-8gb even if you dont specify def(0)~(9)
[04:53] <calrogman> it's a way to check if your processor actually has 64-bit support, darkelfjuggalo
[04:53] <creede> darkelfjuggalo, I've been running 64 bit Ubuntu on my laptop for about 4 years and I haven't had any problems. But of course YMMV
[04:53] <poedragonwarrior> right
[04:53] <poedragonwarrior> 32 bit mode for usage of older hardware
[04:53] <SwedeMike> poedragonwarrior: and what do you mean by "upgrade", I have been running PAE for 3-4 years already.
[04:54] <poedragonwarrior> SwedeMike, in the kernel it will be enabled to see 128 and 256gb of ram
[04:54] <darkelfjuggalo> calrogman, are their variables in that code or can't i just C&P it?
[04:54] <SwedeMike> darkelfjuggalo: 64bit used to be a problem, it now works much better. http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/linux_32v64
[04:54] <poedragonwarrior> atm pae is limited to 64gb of ram then it doubles back
[04:54] <calrogman> you can C&P it darkelfjuggalo
[04:55] <SwedeMike> poedragonwarrior: it already supports 64 gig so I don't think most people have a problem with that anyway. And if you have that kind of machine you should run 64bit because then it's probably because you have applications that need to address a lot of memory.
[04:55] <creede> 64gb should be enough for anybody. Or was that 640K? I forget. :-)
[04:55] <poedragonwarrior> really because a lot of older apps refuse to run in a 64 bit linux enviornment even if the 32 bit libs are there
[04:55] <darkelfjuggalo> output: 64-bit
[04:56] <poedragonwarrior> SwedeMike, again not true I use a lot of virtual machines that use 3gb of ram each say I want to run 4 and still have the OS available to me
[04:56] <calrogman> darkelfjuggalo: as expected
[04:56] <calrogman> "64-bit Linux allows up to 128 TB of virtual address space for individual processes, and can address approximately 64 TB of physical memory, subject to processor and system limitations."
[04:56] <jagginess> poedragonwarrior, if they're not from your package manager and need dynamic dependendencies, you'll have to manually install them
[04:56] <jasonwilliams78> Does anyone know how to crack WPA
[04:56] <poedragonwarrior> right
[04:56] <jagginess> poedragonwarrior, multiarch, look for i386 in the package names (on 64 bit)
[04:57] <poedragonwarrior> right if in PAE you dont specify physical memory you can run unlimited in virtual memory
[04:57] <V13Axel> I changed from an Nvidia Geforce 8400GS to an ATI Radeon X800 GTO, and upon removing the Nvidia drivers, I got a nonfunctional X configuration. I was wondering how one would activate the Radeon driver manually?
[04:57] <LOWLT> crimsonmane,  Im trying to setup a SSH tunnel like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1882799 but in linux instead of Copssh on windows
[04:57] <kczero> don't get that, what was the point of echo? you can echo anything and the output would be what is displayed. Sorry I'm not involved in the conversation, but I'm curious what was the point of that.
[04:57] <poedragonwarrior> jagginess, ive been a Linux user for a lot longer than most in here
[04:57] <SwedeMike> poedragonwarrior: let me get this straight. you're advocating people to not run 64bit at all?
[04:57] <darkelfjuggalo> so how do i pae a 32-bit iso?
[04:57] <poedragonwarrior> pretty much its not needed
[04:57] <jagginess> poedragonwarrior, multiarch hasnt been out that long.. you should get acquainted with it
[04:57] <calrogman> the stock ubuntu kernel has PAE darkelfjuggalo
[04:58] <calrogman> yeah, poedragonwarrior, it's so not needed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y2K38_bug
[04:58] <poedragonwarrior> I advise against having anything to do with this lie that is advertised as 64 bit because it is not 64 bit
[04:58] <jasonwilliams78> gain remote access WEP via command line interface?
[04:58] <SwedeMike> darkelfjuggalo: it used to be that you had to install a different version of the kernel, but you don't anymore.
[04:58] <darkelfjuggalo> so, if I just make a 32-bit ISO installer it should run fine?
[04:58] <jagginess> jasonwilliams78, wep isnt secure, use minimally wpa2
[04:58] <calrogman> poedragonwarrior, i fear you are misinformed
[04:58] <celthunder> LOWLT: what's the problem with your ssh tunnel
[04:59] <poedragonwarrior> no I am not as "64" is actually 38 bit dwords running in 48bit memory addresses piped down to a 16bit x86 architexture
[04:59] <SwedeMike> poedragonwarrior: well, let me just on the record say that I don't agree with you, saying 64bit isn't needed. I'd agree that "it depends", but saying it's not needed it bull. There are people who need it.
[04:59] <jasonwilliams78> jagginess, crack wpa via command line interface terminal mac os x?
[04:59] <V13Axel> !offtopic
[04:59] <poedragonwarrior> unless you have UEFI, your 64 bit system is being funnled through old 16 bit real address memory
[05:00] <calrogman> what on earth is a 36-bit dword?
[05:00] <calrogman> a dword is by definition 32-bit
[05:00] <SwedeMike> poedragonwarrior: now you're just trolling. you seem to lack the understanding of the different modes a modern x86 processer works in.
[05:00] <poedragonwarrior> processor, not bios
[05:00]  * jagginess ignores poedragonwarrior
[05:01] <poedragonwarrior> so let me get this straight, the clock problem exists because of "1970" when will it ever be 1970 again?
[05:01] <poedragonwarrior> why do we support clock dates this far back?
[05:02] <crimsonmane> the clock problem was that it only looked at the last two digits
[05:02] <calrogman> you can't just change time_t = 0b00 to some other time
[05:02] <poedragonwarrior> this is the kind of thinking that makes me re-ponder humanity's sanity as a whole
[05:02] <SwedeMike> poedragonwarrior: because that's the unix standard.
[05:02] <crimsonmane> and databases used comparison, greater than or less than
[05:02] <calrogman> poedragonwarrior: i ponder your understanding of the concept of an epoch
[05:03] <darkelfjuggalo> ok redirect question:  if I just make a 32-bit ISO installer it should run fine?
[05:03] <poedragonwarrior> so instead of y2k we see the same problem again
[05:03] <poedragonwarrior> just re-apply the fix
[05:03] <calrogman> probably not darkelfjuggalo
[05:03] <calrogman> poedragonwarrior, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about
[05:03] <crimsonmane> darkelfjuggalo: it's hit or miss, but worth a try. it is possible the media you are installing the boot onto is bad
[05:03] <darkelfjuggalo> calrogman, then may I get some better direction the PAE?
[05:04] <V13Axel> poedragonwarrior: We do that because most computer clocks work in milliseconds since 1/1/1970 Greenwich Mean Time. That is the 'zero' that the computer counts up from to figure the time.
[05:04] <calrogman> you're getting a missing file error, not a memory error
[05:04] <darkelfjuggalo> crimsonmane ; im curious about that... it's a 8GB stick but the Fat32 partion limits it to 4.3
[05:04] <crimsonmane> OH
[05:04] <V13Axel> poedgragonwarrior: That's called the Epoch.
[05:04] <crimsonmane> format that to ext4
[05:04] <poedragonwarrior> so instead of counting 1/1/1970 count up from 1/1/2000
[05:05] <poedragonwarrior> it will never again be 1970
[05:05] <poedragonwarrior> ever
[05:05] <calrogman> but then you ahve to move every single system from one epoch to another
[05:05] <calrogman> and that's just not feasible
[05:05] <V13Axel> ^^
[05:05] <V13Axel> That.
[05:05] <poedragonwarrior> its just a kernel patch
[05:05] <calrogman> no
[05:05] <V13Axel> No, it's ingrained into the CMOS.
[05:05] <calrogman> you have no idea what you are talking about
[05:05] <poedragonwarrior> not with UEFI its not
[05:06] <poedragonwarrior> with UEFI its 2000
[05:06] <V13Axel> This conversation should be moved to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:06] <V13Axel> I came here to ask a question, and no one answered because this conversation is ignorable.
[05:06] <darkelfjuggalo> how do i format in linux? i keep having to use my mom's Vista and that only formats NTFS, Fat32, and exFAT
[05:06] <SwedeMike> poedragonwarrior: yeah, the fix is to move to 64bit counters for seconds since 1970 probably.
[05:06] <creede> darkelfjuggalo, what format do you want?
[05:07] <V13Axel> darkelfjuggalo: Open Disk Utility, it should be an option there.
[05:07] <creede> SwedeMike, s/probably/definitely/g
[05:07] <jagginess> darkelfjuggalo, use gparted live cd (sourceforge)
[05:07] <calrogman> the formatting doesn't matter, catting or dding an image to the disk will over write the partition table and write a raw partition to the drive
[05:07] <creede> V13Axel, I'm afraid I have no idea what your question was. I got distracted by the shiny objOH LOOK A CHICKEN
[05:08] <calrogman> 05:57:06 < V13Axel> I changed from an Nvidia Geforce 8400GS to an ATI Radeon X800 GTO, and upon removing the Nvidia drivers, I got a nonfunctional X  configuration. I was wondering how one would activate the Radeon driver manually?
[05:08] <V13Axel> ^Yes, that.
[05:09] <calrogman> the usual steps are reinstall all of your Xorg related pacakges, delete /etc/xorg.conf
[05:09] <jagginess> calrogman, nope
[05:09] <V13Axel> The problem is that I want GLX, etc., enabled.
[05:09] <poedragonwarrior> calrogman, delete the xorg.conf, reboot into terminal, reinstall the ati drivers, then reboot
[05:09] <calrogman> jagginess: thanks for that constructive critique of my advice jagginess, it was helpful to all involved
[05:09] <V13Axel> The problem with THAT is that the card isn't supported by fglrx.
[05:09] <poedragonwarrior> it is easily the cleanest way of doing it
[05:10] <jagginess> calrogman, nope
[05:10] <poedragonwarrior> an ati card oh crap its that old?
[05:10] <jagginess> calrogman, there's no /etc/xorg.conf ever
[05:10] <calrogman> except when there is, you mean, jagginess
[05:10] <V13Axel> No, it's an X800 GTO, it's from 2006.
[05:10] <poedragonwarrior> then its supported
[05:10] <jagginess> calrogman, try google.. /etc/xorg.conf never exists on any linux distro
[05:10] <poedragonwarrior> idk why it wouldnt be
[05:11] <yekoms> isnt xorg.conf in /etc/X11/ ?
[05:11] <poedragonwarrior> yes
[05:11] <jagginess> yekoms, ding
[05:11] <V13Axel> poedragonwarrior: It's not supported by the ATI drivers, it's in the legacy support structure.
[05:11] <yekoms> then why is he looking in /etc ?
[05:11] <creede>  22:11:13  creede@boris  ~  % ls -alF /etc/xorg.conf
[05:11] <creede> ls: cannot access /etc/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[05:11] <poedragonwarrior> this is why I love nvidia
[05:11] <jagginess> yekoms, because he gives bad advice
[05:11] <poedragonwarrior> my cards work
[05:11] <yekoms> creede, ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:12] <creede> more recent versions of xorg do some kind of magic that does the same thing as xorg.conf but in a different set of files.
[05:12] <calrogman> man 5 xorg.conf gives a list of places checked for a xorg.conf, among them /etc/xorg.conf
[05:12] <yekoms> ive never seen such behavior...
[05:12] <jagginess> creede, nope
[05:12] <V13Axel> poedragonwarrior, This card works fine. I got it cheap, and it isn't for anything special. Don't flame, I'm just asking how to do something.
[05:12] <jagginess> creede, xorg doesnt need xorg.conf, it can do autodetection
[05:12] <creede>  22:11:23  creede@boris  ~  % ls -alF /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:12] <creede> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 83 Oct 10 08:54 /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:12] <yekoms> ive always found xorg.conf in /etc/X11/ and this was on unix or linux.
[05:13] <jagginess> yekoms, y
[05:13] <yekoms> its first location is /etc/X11/ then it moves to /etc, and other places.
[05:13] <creede> OK I was wrong about xorg.conf
[05:13] <V13Axel> Well, does anyone know how to fix my problem, or are we going to argue about the location of xorg.conf all night?
[05:13] <V13Axel> XD
[05:13] <robertzaccour> Is it possible to download YouTube videos in Ubuntu? Is there such a program that'll do this?
[05:13] <creede> However my xorg.conf is only 84 bytes long with only a default device section so the magic is happening somewhere else.
[05:13] <yekoms> youtube-dl robertzaccour
[05:13] <robertzaccour> yekoms, How do I get it?
[05:13] <V13Axel> robertzaccour, I use the VideoDownloadHelper add-on to Firefox.
[05:13] <calrogman> of course it was yekoms, except on any of the BSDs, where it'd be in /usr/local/etc/ (excluding OpenBSD's xenocara)
[05:14] <yekoms> apt-get install youtube-dl robertzaccour
[05:14] <robertzaccour> yekoms, Oh ok thanks.
[05:14] <robertzaccour> V13Axel, What about for Chromium?
[05:14] <yekoms> calrogman, wrong again, proper install for FreeBSD5.4-7.1, /etc/X11/ is the default location for xorg.conf. :)
[05:14] <yekoms> unless the user selects otherwise. but im not going off topic in here ;)
[05:15] <robertzaccour> yekoms, How do I use it?
[05:15] <V13Axel> robertzaccour, I'm not sure, I use Firefox. You could use youtube-dl, but it's slightly deprecated.
[05:15] <yekoms> youtube-dl url.for.video from a terminal.
[05:15] <calrogman> by reading the manpage, robertzaccour
[05:15] <yekoms> or you can read the short help via youtube-dl -h. ;)
[05:16] <yekoms> -away
[05:17] <robertzaccour> I'll try the plugin
[05:18] <calrogman> V13Axel: you can "undeprecate" youtube-dl after you install it by running `sudo youtube-dl -U`
[05:20] <V13Axel> So does no one know how to manually activate the radeon/ati drivers, with glx, etc., installed?
[05:20] <jagginess> calrogman, stop taking drugs and giving fantasy advice.. you're wrong on every statement the last several minutes.. take a break from your computer
[05:20] <poedragonwarrior> may I ask why Ubuntu doesn't include the nvidia drivers with their installation by default? They obviously have no problem being sellouts
[05:21] <poedragonwarrior> it would seriously make things a whole lot smoother
[05:21] <creede> V13Axel, I'm afraid I'm not going to be much help there. I'd probably just reinstall to a spare partition and port over my old /home directory.
[05:21] <calrogman> jagginess: again, thanks for the useful and constructive critique, where you tore my advice apart point-by-point
[05:21] <poedragonwarrior> in the EULA it is allowed so it should be a default option
[05:21] <calrogman> as opposed to, y'know, jus insulting my intelligence
[05:22] <poedragonwarrior> calrogman: I never insulted you, I just had a differing opinion than you
[05:23] <poedragonwarrior> I just really wish Canonical would just include the nvidia and fglrx drivers by default as it is ALLOWED IN THE EULAs
[05:23] <V13Axel> creede, Well, that would be what I'd do too, if this were a machine to be used as an ordinary desktop. However, that would take far too long for this machine.
[05:24] <poedragonwarrior> it is absolutely painfully retarded not to
[05:24] <V13Axel> !offtopic | poedragonwarrior
[05:24] <ezio> anyone having flash problems?
[05:24] <poedragonwarrior> V13Axel: this is a support issue
[05:24] <ezio> new version of flash out?
[05:25] <poedragonwarrior> its actually a bug
[05:25] <poedragonwarrior> see our friend here is having an issue he wouldnt have if Ubuntu had these drivers OOB
[05:25] <creede> I'd think trying to repair the X installation would take just about as long. But, not knowing your situation, I won't second guess your call. Wish I could help.
[05:26] <poedragonwarrior> it would go "oh you switched hardware here you go"
[05:26] <poedragonwarrior> im gunna skip 12.10
[05:27] <V13Axel> creede, Well, it's just that I can't afford downtime on this machine. I can afford a restart or two while repairing because the actual repair work will be done while it's functional.
[05:27] <V13Axel> The machine doubles as a TeamSpeak/IRC/web server, so it needs to be available at all times.
[05:28] <creede> OK, I guess that makes sense under the circumstances.\
[05:28] <creede> Can you set up a vnc server and get into it that way?
[05:28] <poedragonwarrior> another thing that Mac OS X do and Windows do that Linux all distributions I have yet to see do is read my fucking drive labels
[05:28] <poedragonwarrior> I have them set for a reason
[05:28] <poedragonwarrior> I have over 38 drives in the system
[05:28] <creede> If you can you might be able to use something like synaptic to install ATI drivers.
[05:29] <jasonwilliams78> hello, I'm new to this
[05:30] <jasonwilliams78> i'm ready to learn from those who are familiar with Linux command line script
[05:30] <jasonwilliams78> majoring in information security
[05:30] <poedragonwarrior> I love the song in Ubuntu Free Showcase
[05:31] <poedragonwarrior> sonova bitch the goddamn installer crashed
[05:31] <V13Axel> creede, Well, the card is in the legacy support structure of ATI, and thus, FGLRX doesn't seem to like it all too much. I'm in a functioning X system, but I'd like to have SOME openGL support for playing Minecraft(It's used by a friend who has no portable system to use)
[05:31] <alhowwemana3o> hi guys
[05:32] <robertzaccour> V13Axel, the plugin works great. thanks very much
[05:32] <V13Axel> robertzaccour, No problem, I use it myself, and thus recommend it.
[05:34] <robertzaccour> looks like they're much more strict with add-ons in chromium
[05:34] <V13Axel> creede, The main thing I need is to get 3D acceleration working.
[05:35] <V13Axel> creede, The open-source seem to have wonderful 3D acceleration, but I don't know how to activate them.
[05:36] <jasonwilliams78> alhowwemana3o: hi !
[05:37] <creede> V13Axel, well it used to be that if the card supported it you just added a line to X.conf (or whatever it was called) and you were in. Nowadays, with the new xorg architecture, I have no idea.
[05:37] <creede> I'm afraid I just cross my fingers and hope I don't have to reinstall :-)
[05:38] <V13Axel> creede, Well, xorg.conf still works, but I don't know how to use it. Nvidia-settings actually uses xorg.conf, and it seems to work well.
[05:39] <creede> V13Axel, well like I say my xorg.conf is pretty much just a stub, and while you might be able to do configuration similar to the old way, all the functionality is described somewhere else.
[05:39] <creede> At least on my copy of Ubuntu 12.04LTS.
[05:40] <creede> Looking at my laptop it doesn't even have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf. I don't know what it's doing.
[05:41] <almoxarife> creede: that is normal for some installs
[05:41] <creede> almoxarife, yeah it looks like all the config files are in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf/
[05:42] <almoxarife> creede: yeap, fallback/failsafe uses xorg.conf.(something) , learned the lesson the hard way
[05:43] <creede> almoxarife, oh I suspect there's something like that in my future. I learn lots of things the hard way. I once learned to use Norton Utilities in one night after I clobbered our company's copy of Lotus 1-2-3 (this was many many years ago)
[05:43] <extropy> every time I hit Alt-[Left Arrow] in Firefox the browser successfully goes "back" as expected but like clockwork Ubuntu's "Type Your Command" dialog pops up and take focus. I'm on a laptop with the world crappiest trackpad. Who should I bring this issue to: Mozilla or Ubuntu?
[05:44] <extropy> omg, lol Lotus 123 for the win ...
[05:45] <creede> extropy, yeah this was in the days when we thought we made a big score by getting a PC clone with a 20 MB HD for $350
[05:45] <extropy> all about having the WordPerfect 5.1 keyboard hotkey overlay ... those were the days (but this is offtopic ;)
[05:45] <almoxarife> turbo even
[05:46] <creede> extropy, yeah, offtopic but fun walk down memory lane. :-) Well back to Ubuntu...
[05:46] <extropy> I don't care, just don't to incur the wrath of ... whomever
[05:47] <extropy> all about 8088XTs
[05:47] <creede> Yeah we already had one guy in here tonight doing a bunch of offtopic stuff
[05:47] <almoxarife> i was wondering why ngrep does not catch/match anything thus far from the irc connection?
[05:48] <creede> almoxarife, is the IRC stream going through stdout?
[05:50] <almoxarife> creede: i would assume so, i was concerned more with what is coming across then my input
[05:51] <creede> I'm just thinking that if for some reason the IRC stream is going to a different file handle than STDOUT ngrep might not be picking it up. I don't know enough about irc to be sure, but I don't know why it wouldn't go to STDOUT.
[05:51] <malkauns>  how do i change the gamma settings of my external display
[05:51] <malkauns> ?
[05:51] <almoxarife> got it, can't ngrep a ssl connection, forgot i was using ssl on freenode
[05:51] <creede> OK that makes sense.
[05:52] <extropy> couldn't you pipe the ssl to something to decrypt it and then pipe *that* to ngrep?
[05:53] <creede> malkauns, do you need to change the gamma of the display or the video card?
[05:53] <extropy> huh, I'm guessing that "decrypt" command would just be SSL ... somehow
[05:53] <almoxarife> extropy: sure, better yet i could just use the clients 'hit' list
[05:53] <tf81_netbook> is there a keyboard shortcut to unmaximize any application? i'm running 12.04
[05:53] <malkauns> creede, just the specific external display
[05:53] <extropy> that went over my head, lol
[05:54] <tf81_netbook> i'm having a weird problem where titlebars disappear when apps are maximized
[05:54] <creede> hm. usually you can do the cards fairly easily but monitors in my experience don't have control programs for Linux.
[05:54] <extropy> I still can't figure out how to use mkfifo ... so yeah
[05:54] <creede> (someone else might have a different experience)
[05:55] <creede> tf81_netbook, are you using Ubuntu 12.04? If you maximize the window, do you see the close/minimize/maximize buttons in the top panel bar?
[05:55] <tf81_netbook> creede:  no
[05:55] <creede> No to which?
[05:55] <almoxarife> malkauns: kde has a nice gamma correction package
[05:55] <malkauns> almoxarife, what's it called?
[05:55] <tf81_netbook> creede:  yes to 12.04 no to the 2nd
[05:56] <creede> You don't see the buttons even if you move the mouse to the upper left corner of the display?
[05:56] <tf81_netbook> creede:  is that a unity thing? i'm not using unity
[05:56] <creede> That's Unity's behavior. What are you using?
[05:56] <tf81_netbook> mate
[05:57] <tf81_netbook> i have this problem in xfce also
[05:57] <almoxarife> malkauns: it's a addon to the control center
[05:57] <creede> oooooh... I've only used mate once, and I wiped my xfce installation when I set up this new machine.
[05:58] <almoxarife> malkauns: part of the 'display' module
[05:58] <tf81_netbook> i would reinstall, but my install disc is 70miles away lol
[05:58] <malkauns> mm ok
[05:58] <creede> but if it's happening on both, it might be something like the viewport is sized a little too big for the monitor and the title bar is going offscreen.
[05:58]  * creede uploads a new install disk to tf81_netbook
[05:59] <tf81_netbook> creede:  possible, netbook only runs at 1024x600
[05:59] <tf81_netbook> creede:  so how do i fix that?
[05:59] <creede> hmmmmmm
[06:00] <creede> maybe something like ubuntu tweak might help
[06:01] <almoxarife> tf81_netbook: you are using the builtin monitor or external?
[06:01] <tf81_netbook> almoxarife:  both
[06:01] <almoxarife> tf81_netbook: which has the issue?
[06:01] <tf81_netbook> built in
[06:02] <almoxarife> really?
[06:02] <creede> Are the displays mirrored?
[06:02] <tf81_netbook> no
[06:02] <almoxarife> nvidia?
[06:02] <creede> but it works OK on the external one. I wonder if the built-in monitor is picking up the settings from the external one.
[06:02] <tf81_netbook> hmm <sagir3> truexfan81 and suterusu also know this so ask em if im not around
[06:02] <tf81_netbook> oops
[06:03] <tf81_netbook> wrong paste
[06:03] <tf81_netbook> Gtk-WARNING **: Theme directory catefories/22 of theme matefaenzadark has no size field
[06:03] <tf81_netbook> there we go
[06:03] <tf81_netbook> creede:  possible
[06:05] <creede> Unfortunately I have to leave it there. I have some stuff to do before I go to bed, and it's already past my bedtime. Night all.
[06:06] <DLopez> it is only 2:06
[06:07] <DLopez> leaving
[06:07] <tf81_netbook> i found a fix
[06:07] <tf81_netbook> alt+F10 toggles maximize
[06:12] <Dataholic> does Reconstructor is free in ubuntu repositories?
[06:13] <Cephalex> Hello there
[06:13] <Cephalex> is there anyone can help me about system programming ?
[06:14] <jagginess> Cephalex, system programming? wtf is that?
[06:14] <Cephalex> I have a problem with inotify library
[06:15] <V13Axel> So I fixed my last problem and now I have an odd issue. I'm running a dual-monitor setup on an ATI card, one is a 1280x1024, and one is a 1024x768. Once I got Compiz running, half my desktop was shown as though it were see-through. If I move a window over it, it does that old Windows error thing of showing tons of the same image, but only on that one spot. I have attached an image here: http://imgur.com/jIAgu
[06:16] <jagginess> V13Axel, probably ati's twinview would help
[06:16] <jagginess> !twinview
[06:16] <jagginess> oops that's nvidia.. lol
[06:16] <jagginess> oh well
[06:16] <V13Axel> How would I set up the ATI equivalent of Twinview using the open-source drivers?
[06:16] <tightwork> how not surprising... find shiny shiny how to on main wiki, attempt it, failure, discover year long on going bug that has yet to been resolved
[06:17] <Dataholic> Is it possible to install Ubuntu 12.04 remix iso on gui? because when i boot it in vmware it prompt me to CLI
[06:18] <V13Axel> My card is out of the proprietary support structure(Radeon X800 GTO), so the FGLRX drivers don't work, but the open source ones work wonderfully.
[06:20] <superpie> video drivers for linux are a gamble
[06:20] <superpie> you cant know if theyre good without trying them yourself
[06:20] <superpie> people on the internet lie to oversell things they own or believe
[06:20] <tightwork> I think we should start putting our wiki on ehow, our documentation is on par with vaugeness
[06:21] <superpie> documentation?
[06:21] <superpie> the code is the documnentation
[06:21] <V13Axel> I have tried the FGLRX drivers, and they don't work. So I tried the open-source, and they work. However, I get that odd transparent part of my desktop: http://imgur.com/jIAgu
[06:21] <jagginess> V13Axel, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[06:22] <jagginess> V13Axel, i never heard of bigdesktop before.. i heard of twinview xinerama, there's alot out there hehehe
[06:22] <superpie> xinerama
[06:22] <superpie> that brings me back
[06:22] <tightwork> sheesh feels like 2001 in here talking about displays
[06:22] <superpie> i know right
[06:23] <superpie> im having flashbacks to setting up my second monitor in fedora 5
[06:23] <tightwork> ive learned to accept limits of hardware vs my time
[06:23] <tightwork> sometimes its just not worth it
[06:24] <V13Axel> Well, my dilemma is that Compiz shows a good sixth of my desktop as transparent.
[06:24] <superpie> and thats why my mint partition only has one working display
[06:24] <superpie> turn off compiz
[06:24] <V13Axel> I got the monitor working, it just has an odd problem on the desktop.
[06:24] <superpie> how does compiz help you
[06:24] <V13Axel> It doesn't;
[06:24] <superpie> compiz is a toy
[06:24] <V13Axel> But pointless eyecandy is fun and I want it.
[06:24] <aeon-ltd> if it's your wm it's vital
[06:24] <tightwork> I get more done is lameo no frillz  xmonad
[06:25] <superpie> i get more done in windows but thats a preference
[06:25] <tightwork> I have learned to accept gnome3 with bluetile  ... im a tiling maniac
[06:25] <V13Axel> It helps me because it allows my GPU to do my desktop compositing so Docky works well, and that helps my workflow.
[06:25] <V13Axel> Thus, Compiz helps me.
[06:25] <tightwork> reading email in outlook is not GTD superpie  ;-p
[06:25] <superpie> tiling people freak me out
[06:26] <aeon-ltd> superpie: why?
[06:26] <superpie> i said windows not the whole microsoft product line tightwork
[06:26] <tightwork> superpie: i know .. im just giving u hard time
[06:26] <superpie> aeon i dont argue against linux in linux channels
[06:26] <bazhang> !ot | superpie
[06:26] <jagginess> V13Axel, http://www.schrodingersghost.com/?p=480 (you can make an xorg.conf sample in root's home using X -configure, after stopping lightdm, stop lightdm, copy/edit xorg.conf from sample to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, the start lightdm)
[06:26] <aeon-ltd> the philosophy is great. the pc should organize windows for me not the other way round
[06:27] <superpie> im not that off topic if your following the conversation
[06:27] <bazhang> aeon-ltd, lets get back on topic
[06:27] <aeon-ltd> sorry for derailing
[06:27] <V13Axel> I'm actually following this one:
[06:27] <V13Axel> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[06:27] <bazhang> superpie, take the chat to #ubuntu-offtopic , this is support ONLY
[06:27] <tightwork> anyway....cobbler-web has been broken for a year
[06:27] <tightwork> yay
[06:27] <jagginess> V13Axel, this stuff is never easy for anybody, even pros have problems with it.. it's one thing linux still is really hard to get right more often than not, 1+ monitors not always plug and play
[06:28] <V13Axel> I'm aware.
[06:28] <V13Axel> Thus, I'm trying to set up MergedFB.
[06:28] <jagginess> V13Axel, (however there's less problems with using nv or the open source drivers, but not sure about how well the acceleration of gfx would work out)
[06:28] <V13Axel> I'm no novice by far, but everyone needs help every now and then.
[06:28] <V13Axel> It works fine,
[06:29] <V13Axel> I'm just getting this odd glitch with my desktop: http://imgur.com/jIAgu
[06:29] <jagginess> V13Axel, also if you're trying out this stuff, hopefully you dont have problems with kms
[06:29] <superpie> does compizconfig have a desktop width parameter
[06:29] <V13Axel> So far, no.
[06:29] <jagginess> V13Axel, (make sure you don't have vga= in your kernel bootline, that can disable kms)
[06:30] <V13Axel> KMS is working fine, actually.
[06:30] <V13Axel> It's why I got the radeon driver working.
[06:30] <jagginess> V13Axel, do you know what it is?
[06:30] <V13Axel> Kernelmodesetting.
[06:30] <jagginess> V13Axel, but what is it used for?
[06:30] <V13Axel> It is what allows the kernel to select the correct drivers/configuration for the graphical setup.
[06:31] <V13Axel> (By configuration I mean resolutions, etc.)
[06:31] <jagginess> V13Axel, no, it's a feature to allow easier transition of gfx mode from X to plain text tty1-tty6
[06:31] <V13Axel> Hmm.
[06:31] <V13Axel> I suppose the stuff I was reading was incorrect, then.
[06:31] <V13Axel> That was actually a problem I was having as well,
[06:32] <jagginess> V13Axel, when you do ctl-alt-f1 that used to blink the whole screen.. but with kms you shouldn't get flashes when swithing from X<->plaintext
[06:32] <V13Axel> I couldn't get to my tty1-tty6's.
[06:32] <aeon-ltd> What? even if you have no login manager?
[06:32] <jagginess> V13Axel, maybe it's because xorg.conf has VTswitch disabled.. which would be fine..
[06:32] <V13Axel> I've just been using an SSH session to do stuff like that, then exporting DISPLAY as :0-0 and starting the GDM service.
[06:32] <V13Axel> aeon-ltd, Yes.
[06:33] <V13Axel> aeon-ltd, When I press Ctrl+Alt+F(1-6), I get a blank screen, nothing else.
[06:33] <jagginess> V13Axel, you using kubuntu or something? .. it sounds like you're having something wrong
[06:34] <jagginess> lol
[06:34] <V13Axel> It's probably from where I switched from an Nvidia card to an ATI card.
[06:34] <aeon-ltd> what if you killed X and the login manager, do you end up at a point in which you can't input anything?
[06:34] <jagginess> V13Axel, how about removing anything nvidia (except for anything about nouveau.kms stuff packages)
[06:34] <jagginess> V13Axel, lsmod shouldn't say nvidia
[06:35] <V13Axel> aeon-ltd, Essentially, but I have a second PC right next to it that I SSH from to do any command-line work when the GUI unavailable.
[06:35] <jagginess> V13Axel, you also dont want to have two drivers conflicting each other, it's possible to have two ati drivers clashing
[06:35] <V13Axel> I did a sudo apt-get purge nvidia* when I uninstalled the Nvidia drivers.
[06:35] <jagginess> V13Axel, you should* be able to do tty1, otherwise something is very wrong
[06:39] <DaemonicApathy> Just finished configuring an install on a brand new SSD. Any suggestions?
[06:39] <V13Axel> Well, that was odd.
[06:40] <V13Axel> I attempted to switch to tty1, and I got a frozen GUI until I pressed Ctrl+Alt+F7, in which case, the machine simply crashed.
[06:40] <jagginess> V13Axel, your driver isnt properly installed/ it has something to do with your driver setup
[06:41] <jagginess> V13Axel, you probably have 2 ati drivers loading.. disabling completely one of them.. (remove any packages that may be hosting the other)
[06:41] <Cantide> Empathy requires me to enter the password for my default keyring each time i run it - how can i remove this password prompt?
[06:41] <V13Axel> Here's the thing though-- I just reconfigured Xorg-server, and there's no xorg.conf, so I have no idea what would be causing it.
[06:42] <V13Axel> OH WAIT
[06:42] <V13Axel> I forgot-- I installed FGLRX to test and never uninstalled it.
[06:42] <jagginess> V13Axel, you dont know what you're doing. use dpkg -l |grep -i ati
[06:42] <V13Axel> I'm gonna try that.
[06:43] <V13Axel> I'm no novice by any means, I simply made a rookie mistake.
[06:43] <V13Axel> I'm uninstalling anything to do with FGLRX, and then rebooting to see if my ttys work.
[06:44] <V13Axel> Although I will admit--
[06:44] <V13Axel> I used to know quite a bit about using xorg.conf, but then they replaced it with obscurity and automatic configuration. Anyway, the machine is rebooting now.
[06:44] <jagginess> V13Axel, .
[06:45] <jagginess> V13Axel, it's /var/log/Xorg.0.log .. it's dynamic in memory, -- using xorg.conf forces what X doesnt detect (X will still do partial auto-detection of things not specified in xorg.conf)
[06:46] <V13Axel> I'm aware of that; I was simply avoiding stating it, as I felt it was common knowledge.
[06:47] <vedic> Probably I am asking a very simple question to Project Manager/Developers/Admins. I am looking for opinion on "Where do you prefer setup version control repository for your project source code?" At your own premise or at hosting provider or colocate your server at hosting provider?
[06:47] <jagginess> V13Axel, if you specified bogus keyboard and mouse inputs only in the xorg.conf, it'll likely be able to load and use a auto-detected video chipset and keyboard.. but if you specify a faulty* video specification to use then X will die right away.. xorg.conf is very strict on the graphic driver
[06:47] <jagginess> V13Axel, then check your log kid
[06:47] <jagginess> V13Axel, it's all in the log. it says whats autodetected and what's read from the xorg.conf file
[06:48] <V13Axel> There IS no xorg.conf file at the moment. The logs show that it's using the open source radeon drivers.
[06:48]  * jagginess wishes he can use rtfm more often
[06:48]  * Calinou wishes he can use nvidia card more often
[06:48] <Calinou> basically what you wanted to do, jagginess?
[06:49] <jagginess> Calinou, make people understand how to read logs
[06:49] <jagginess> lol
[06:49]  * V13Axel wishes he could afford a high-end Nvidia card instead of this $20 ATI card.
[06:49] <V13Axel> I understand reading logs, I just don't do it often.
[06:49]  * jagginess inventes rtfl for V13Axel
[06:50] <jagginess> :)
[06:50] <V13Axel> LOL
[06:50] <jagginess> i already gave everything you need in your chat log too (lsmod, to check you're not loading two ati drivers), so only use ONE ati driver
[06:52] <V13Axel> Odd.
[06:53] <jagginess> you're using radeon, so disable fglrx too
[06:53] <V13Axel> The logs are saying it's trying to load fglrx, though my card is proportedly unsupported by it.
[06:53] <jagginess> stick with radeon only
[06:53] <Cantide> i tried to install webapps on 12.04 and got this message -> http://pastebin.com/jSGC8E9X
[06:53] <V13Axel> I performed and apt-get purge fglrx
[06:53] <V13Axel> an*
[06:55] <DaemonicApathy> Cantide: have you tried "sudo apt-get -f install"?
[06:55] <jagginess> Cantide, try apt-get update, then apt-get -f install<enter>
[06:55] <V13Axel> I see the problem.
[06:55] <Cantide> okay, thanks
[06:56] <jagginess> V13Axel, no you don't
[06:56] <jagginess> V13Axel, stick with radeon only.
[06:56] <V13Axel> Yes, I do. Let me finish.
[06:56] <jagginess> no you dont
[06:56] <Cantide> i should have done that after adding the ppa .-.
[06:56] <jagginess> V13Axel, you dont know what you're doing
[06:56] <DaemonicApathy> Live and learn, Cantide. :-)
[06:56] <Madkiss> cheers. Can somebody please tell me how to send a ctrl-alt-delte via screen to another server that is connected remotely via a USB-to-serial converter?
[06:57] <Cantide> still the same problem :'(
[06:57] <Cantide> maybe those packages were removed?
[06:57] <V13Axel> The onboard card is an ATI Radeon Xpress 200, and the PCI-e card is an ATI Radeon X800GTO. There is no option to disable the onboard, only one to prefer the PCI-e upon boot. The logs show that X is trying to load modules for the onboard as well as the PCI-e.
[06:58] <jagginess> Madkiss, you have a monitor attached to the usb-to-serial adapter?
[06:58] <DaemonicApathy> Cantide, what version of ff do you have?
[06:58] <Madkiss> jagginess: ?!
[06:58] <Madkiss> scruff: no. I've got a screen session attached to it.
[06:58] <V13Axel> jagginess, you don't even know my situation. I AM sticking with the radeon drivers, and ONLY the radeon drivers, but I still get this transparent part of the desktop when using Compiz, which was my problem in the first place.
[06:58] <Madkiss> root      3686  0.0  0.0  27156  1508 ?        Ss   Oct13   0:00 SCREEN -L /dev/ttyUSB0 115200
[06:58] <Madkiss> that one.
[06:59] <jagginess> V13Axel, good boy. Read your dam logs as well as your irc logs. I'm done with you. I ALREADY TOLD YOU TWICE TO STICK WTIH RADEON ANYWAYS. HAVE A NICE DAY.
[06:59] <Cantide> DaemonicApathy, 16.01
[06:59] <Cantide> 16.0.1
[06:59] <V13Axel> jagginess, Two things; 1) You don't have to be a jerk. 2) I was sticking with radeon to begin with.
[07:00] <Cantide> could those packages have been removed from the repos perhaps?
[07:00]  * jagginess rofl rtfl
[07:00] <DaemonicApathy> Cantide: Last time I saw this problem, webapps had ff14 as a dependency, so newer ff versions prevented installation.
[07:01] <jagginess> Cantide, can occur if you separately install a pakcage with dpkg -i
[07:01] <samsung56> thats not completely right
[07:02] <Cantide> DaemonicApathy, that's a pity :'(
[07:02] <Cantide> jagginess, how do i do that? and is it a good idea?
[07:02] <samsung56> yep
[07:03] <jagginess> Cantide, you may have had to use sudo with the two commands i gave you earlier
[07:03] <samsung56> \nothing is a good idea unless your asian
[07:03] <samsung56> sudowoodo
[07:03] <Cantide> jagginess, I did, didn't help
[07:03] <Cantide> perhaps i should accept defeat :'(
[07:03] <Cantide> 12.10 coming in a few days anyway :)
[07:04] <DaemonicApathy> samsung56: I hope you have higher aspirations than being a spambot.
[07:04] <DaemonicApathy> Personally, I'm sticking with 12.04
[07:04] <samsung56> yes a dolek
[07:05] <samsung56> not a dalek
[07:05] <samsung56> this is a dalek but better because its spelled with a o
[07:05] <Cantide> DaemonicApathy, why stick with 12.04?
[07:05] <DaemonicApathy> dolek (noun): hole. How apropos.
[07:07] <DaemonicApathy> Cantide: Last time I updated, I lost a few programs I liked, to go to a LTS distro. If something good enough comes along that only works with newer versions, I might jump ship. Until then, I like the LTS model enough to stick with it.
[07:07] <samsung56> aww look at the cat
[07:07] <Cantide> Oh, fair enough. Webapps are the attraction for me
[07:07] <Cantide> and there are not many apps i rely on that won't be in 12.10
[07:08] <samsung56> is it bad if my girlfriends cat died because she locked it in her closet and went on vacation
[07:08] <Cantide> oh, and my other question earlier
[07:09] <Cantide> Empathy requires me to enter the password for my default keyring each time i run it - how can i remove this password prompt?
[07:09] <DaemonicApathy> I'm not sure. I enter a blank keyring from installation, to avoid ever getting the prompt again.
[07:09] <gordonjcp> Cantide: delete the keyring and recreate it without a password
[07:09] <samsung56> with sudo ls. command computer
[07:09] <gordonjcp> it's bloody annoying
[07:09] <samsung56> or dellete the keyring and start without a password
[07:09] <Cantide> it is annoying!!
[07:10] <Cantide> how do i delete and recreate it?
[07:10] <DaemonicApathy> Nobody can use my laptop without the right key combination anyway, unless they boot into another drive, so it's not like I need the potential added security.
[07:11] <samsung56> your talking about the gnome
[07:11] <samsung56> keyring right
[07:12] <DaemonicApathy> On a completely unrelated note, I'm loving Ubuntu on a solid-state drive...
[07:13] <samsung56> i love cats
[07:13] <samsung56> but i hate spambots
[07:13] <DaemonicApathy> Cantide: my quick search turns up "rm ~/.gnome2/keyrings/default.keyring".
[07:14] <rawfodog> is there a way to auto mount an encrypted drive on boot ?
[07:14] <gordonjcp> DaemonicApathy: you beat me to it ;-)
[07:14] <samsung56> ohh wow google works fast than asking a question and waiting no way
[07:14] <gordonjcp> rawfodog: doesn't that rather defeat the point of an encrypted drive?
[07:14] <samsung56> microsoft xp rules
[07:15] <Cantide> thanks DaemonicApathy, gordonjcp :)
[07:15] <DaemonicApathy> gordonjcp: I gave you a full 3 minutes. You're too slow. ;-p
[07:15] <antonio_> does anyone here use openshot?
[07:15] <Cantide> and what about recreating it? 'o'
[07:15] <rawfodog> gordonjcp, not really. the person still has to log in
[07:15] <DaemonicApathy> I assume that's automatic, Cantide. When it prompts you, just confirm it with an empty string.
[07:15] <Cantide> oh, right
[07:15] <Cantide> thanks :)
[07:15] <DaemonicApathy> np
[07:15] <gordonjcp> rawfodog: right, but if you've mounted the encrypted drive, it's decrypted
[07:16] <gordonjcp> rawfodog: so you may as well not bother if you're just using normal login
[07:16] <samsung56> .
[07:16] <samsung56> .
[07:16] <samsung56> .
[07:16] <samsung56> .
[07:16] <FloodBot1> samsung56: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:16] <rawfodog> gordonjcp, its to protect it from live cds and such. wouldnt it be much more work to see whats on the drive while it is on without logging in ?
[07:17] <DaemonicApathy> gordonjcp: I think rawfodog just wants it to automount to the point of the password prompt.
[07:17] <gordonjcp> rawfodog: oh, good point
[07:17] <rawfodog> DaemonicApathy, correct
[07:17] <gordonjcp> rawfodog: but if the decryption key is on the hard disk, what's to stop you booting with a livecd then running the normal mount commands?
[07:18] <rawfodog> its a headless machine,
[07:18] <gordonjcp> rawfodog: it's the same problem as DVD encryption
[07:19] <gordonjcp> rawfodog: you can't lock down the content of a DVD with encryption, because you have to give someone the key to decrypt it so they can play it, right?
[07:19] <gordonjcp> rawfodog: so there's no magic way to make the decryption key only decrypt to do the thing you want
[07:19] <RedCap> I try to do this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnableHibernateWithEncryptedSwap but I don't receive a prompt for passphrase while boot. How investigate it?
[07:20] <DaemonicApathy> gordonjcp: Don't they currently get around that by obfuscating the encryption key in a program with hardcoded limits as to how it can be used?
[07:20] <gordonjcp> DaemonicApathy: right, but you've seen how trivially easy that is to break
[07:20] <jagginess> DaemonicApathy, obfuscating an encryption key? LOL.. sounds like you wanna be an agent
[07:20] <DaemonicApathy> Triviality is subjective.
[07:20] <rawfodog> So no one knows ? Cool theoretical conversation though :)
[07:21] <DaemonicApathy> Sorry jagginess, I didn't know how else to put it. xD
[07:21] <jagginess> DaemonicApathy, that's what ssh-agent does, stores encryption keys in a passphrased store
[07:21] <gordonjcp> rawfodog: there are a couple of hits on google for how to do it on other distros
[07:21] <rawfodog> if I reboot this computer, even though the drive isn't decrypted yet, would I still be able to enter the key via ssh ?
[07:21] <jagginess> DaemonicApathy, and so does other things like KDE-wallet, and anything gnome-equivalent.. apple calls this 'Keychains'
[07:22] <gordonjcp> rawfodog: try it with a machine you have physical access to
[07:22] <gordonjcp> rawfodog: is it just /home that's encrypted?
[07:22] <DaemonicApathy> Heh, and Keychains recently had a huge not-quite-debacle itself.
[07:23] <jagginess> DaemonicApathy, the concept is there, but they all store private keys in a passphrased location..
[07:24] <RedCap> anyone?
[07:24] <DaemonicApathy> Fair enough, jagginess. I honestly haven't taken apart any of the sources for DVD-playing programs, so any attempt at describing their methods is just my own conjecture.
[07:25] <jagginess> RedCap, hibernation is a pita if you do dual-booting linuxes.. you can leave one linux filesystem in a corrupted state
[07:25] <RedCap> jagginess, what makes you think I do dual-booting?
[07:26] <jagginess> RedCap, even non dual booting.. but i consider it a danger zone either way
[07:26] <rawfodog> Think this might work ...
[07:26] <rawfodog> http://askubuntu.com/questions/59487/how-to-configure-lvm-to-autodecrypt-partition
[07:27] <jagginess> RedCap, more dangerous dual, less dangerous single booting.. You have to expect problems while testing it
[07:27] <RedCap> my question was about boot-scripts
[07:27] <RedCap> not about hibernation.
[07:27] <jagginess> "<RedCap> I try to do this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnableHibernateWithEncryptedSwap but I don't receive a prompt for passphrase while boot. How investigate it?"
[07:28] <jagginess> doesnt look like a script problem to me
[07:28] <RedCap> have you seen the text by the url?
[07:28] <jagginess> RedCap, i've done hibernation in the past and never went back to it. Just be careful
[07:29] <jagginess> hehhehe
[07:29] <RedCap> jagginess, i've done hibernation in the past and was satisfied
[07:31] <RedCap> my question ws about boot-scripts. Seems  /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/local-top/cryptroot doesn't work as it supposed by the author of this text
[07:31] <RedCap> and I can't find out the reason because of splash screens etc
[07:32] <llutz_> RedCap: change bootoptions ("nosplash")
[07:32] <jagginess> RedCap, you using 12.04?
[07:32] <RedCap> it became so complicated within the last 10 years
[07:32] <RedCap> yes, 12.04
[07:35] <jagginess> RedCap, hibernation is not a high preference among linux fans for any year.. (ask anyone)
[07:35] <RedCap> llutz_ , I tried to change bootoptions, but it's still looks strange. Like I get messages on one virtual console and it expects my to do something on another... and I don't see any messages from the script mentioned above
[07:35] <RedCap> jagginess, I'm not a fan, I'm a user.
[07:35] <DaemonicApathy> Linux tends to start too quickly for hibernation to be a real asset, imho.
[07:35] <jagginess> RedCap, I'm saying the facts..
[07:36] <jagginess> !hibernation
[07:36] <jagginess> heheheh
[07:36] <jagginess> even ubottu doesnt know..
[07:36] <RedCap> it doesn't help me understand what happened with boot-scripts
[07:36] <DaemonicApathy> You wish, jagginess. :-)
[07:37] <jagginess> RedCap, maybe you're not a fan, but you definitely can be a power switch.. that'll cut out the hibernation problem
[07:37] <jagginess> O
[07:38] <jagginess> I'll be surprised if there's 3 people in here who have hibernation set.. (or even 1 other)
[07:38] <RedCap> jagginess, I can't waste 10-20 minutes every time I have to switch off my laptop
[07:39] <RedCap> and my question was about the boot script, not about hibernation
[07:39] <DaemonicApathy> I don't even use swap...
[07:39] <jagginess> RedCap, you haven't been using linux for 10 years.. you'd be able to debug that script.
[07:40] <jagginess> RedCap, i'm afraid nobody here knows..
[07:40] <Church> jagginess: hybernation is not about how short or not boot is. it's about having apps opened at state it was pre-hybernation. what shorter boot has to do with that?
[07:40] <RedCap> jagginess I can't debug it, for now it seems like all messages from that script come to /dev/null
[07:40] <jagginess> (unless i decided to debug the script myself, then maybe i might be able to tell but i'm not very interested atm)
[07:40] <DaemonicApathy> Church, I believe you're responding to me. And you make a decent point.
[07:41] <jagginess> Church, it's RedCap asking for help
[07:44] <eliano> Hi ! I'm a new Ubuntu user ! What command can I use to update the database of packages from a shell ? Thanks
[07:44] <llutz_> eliano: sudo apt-get update
[07:44] <jagginess> eliano, well do you know how to do it graphically? :)
[07:45] <tapas> hmm, i wonder why chromium stopped playing songs on soundcloud..
[07:45] <tapas> interesting enough it works on some sites with the embedded player..
[07:45] <tapas> but soundcloud directly just does nothing..
[07:45] <eliano> yes, I've already use Debian Linux, So I've already known synaptic. Thanks !
[07:46] <jagginess> eliano, nope
[07:46] <jagginess> eliano, you use 'update manager'
[07:46] <jagginess> eliano, you should know graphically how to do it!
[07:46] <tapas> a little search didn't turn up any relevant bugreports..
[07:46] <tapas> anyone else seeing the same issue?
[07:48] <jagginess> eliano, 'update manager' and apt-get update, both update the same thing (indexes of packages only), synaptic doesnt update the indexes afaik unless they implemented this feature into it
[07:48] <Red_M> anyone know how to clear the DNS cache?
[07:49] <eliano> Thanks, I will use update manager
[07:49] <cristian_c> Hi
[07:49] <cristian_c> I can't changing the icon to a script
[07:50] <cristian_c> I'd like to change the icon or using a launcher to execute the script
[07:51] <cristian_c> But I want to use the relative paths. I don't know how to use them in the launcher
[07:51] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[07:51] <overclucker> Red_M: sudo /etc/init.d/dns-clean
[07:51] <eliano> How can I install Cinnamon on Ubuntu and delete Unity ?
[07:52] <Red_M> overclucker: im using debian.... thought asking in here would help....
[07:52] <gordonjcp> cristian_c: I think that's defined in the .desktop file for the program
[07:52] <gordonjcp> Red_M: might be better to ask in #debian
[07:52] <Red_M> overclucker: in #debian its like #idle_all_the_things
[07:53] <cristian_c> gordonjcp, thanks for the answer
[07:53] <cristian_c> gordonjcp, I open the .desktop file, but I don't know hot to edit it
[07:53] <cristian_c> *how
[07:53] <gordonjcp> cristian_c: I don't either but I'm sure a couple of minutes of careful googling will help
[07:54] <cristian_c> gordonjcp, I've searched for it much
[07:54] <cristian_c> gordonjcp, but I've found anything :(
[07:54] <overclucker> Red_M: you could check if you are running nscd and restart the service, but i dont recall if debian uses it or not
[07:54] <cristian_c> *not
[07:54] <Red_M> ##linux suggested nscd
[07:55] <Red_M> it didnt work
[07:55] <cristian_c> gordonjcp, any other ideas? :)
[07:55] <Red_M> and service dns restart doesnt work
[07:55] <gordonjcp> cristian_c: is there not a path in script.desktop saying something like "Icon=/usr/share/something"
[07:56] <cristian_c> gordonjcp, ok, but it's an absolute path
[07:56] <cristian_c> :)
[07:56] <Red_M> ...
[07:56] <Red_M> ./
[07:56] <cristian_c> not ./icon.ong
[07:56] <cristian_c> Red_M, I've tried ./ but it's not accepted
[07:57] <Red_M> ./icon
[07:57] <Red_M> or whatever the rel path is
[07:57] <gordonjcp> cristian_c: yup
[07:57] <cristian_c> I've tried ./path/blah/blah/icon.png
[07:57] <gordonjcp> cristian_c: I'm not sure where it would look if it was a relative path
[07:58] <BigDi> hi all
[07:58] <cristian_c> gordonjcp, I put the exact path :)
[07:58] <cristian_c> wait
[07:59] <BigDi> i have a ubuntu 12.10 on a dell inspiron laptop using gnome-shell: is there a way to reduce the size of the Media Device panel located on the rigth botton corner?
[07:59] <llutz_> cristian_c: your icons have to be in the pathes specified by freedesktop-org or you'll have to use full path in the desktop-file
[08:00] <cristian_c> gordonjcp, ./assets/images/crusadelogo.png
[08:01] <llutz_> cristian_c: see http://goo.gl/Iri2P
[08:02] <cristian_c> liutz_ I see
[08:03] <BigDi> i have a ubuntu 12.10 on a dell inspiron laptop using gnome-shell: is there a way to reduce the size of the Media Device panel located on the rigth botton corner?
[08:03] <antonio_> is anyone good with using openshot?
[08:04] <cristian_c>  /etc/xdg/lubuntu:/usr/share/Lubuntu:/usr/local/share/:/usr/share/:/usr/share:/usr/share/gdm:/var/lib/menu-xdg
[08:05] <cristian_c> liutz_, there is the problem: the script must be portable into other linux pc's
[08:05] <gordonjcp> cristian_c: that's a relative path
[08:05] <cristian_c> liutz_, It's the reason for the relative paths :)
[08:05] <Vernon> Earlier I got on here trying to diagnose a graphical issue with my laptop and Ubuntu. I have discovered a problem. The screen goes blank, and it forces output to my hdmi port, rather than to my screen unless I use nomodeset, then it outputs to my laptop's screen correctly. HELP! I need to stop this.
[08:05] <gordonjcp> cristian_c: that probably won't work, because it might not be looking where you expect it to look
[08:06] <cristian_c> gordonjcp, I don't know how to solve the problem of the portable script :)
[08:06] <cristian_c> and the relative paths (reading the freedesktop page)
[08:07] <gordonjcp> cristian_c: I'm not sure what the problem is
[08:07] <gordonjcp> cristian_c: What exactly are you trying to do?
[08:07] <cristian_c> gordonjcp, the user will double click on the script or the launcher file
[08:08] <cristian_c> and the script will be executed
[08:08] <cristian_c> as an exe (with icon) file
[08:08] <gordonjcp> that's not going to work
[08:08] <cristian_c> but it works only with absolute paths
[08:08] <gordonjcp> Linux doesn't have exe files
[08:08] <llutz_> cristian_c: easiest way to get portabilty is to use standards. so copy your icons to the place the're supposed to be
[08:08] <gordonjcp> cristian_c: there are standard places for the icons to go
[08:09] <cristian_c> gordonjcp, I've copied
[08:09] <gordonjcp> cristian_c: however, your script should not be installing things
[08:09] <cristian_c> no
[08:09] <gordonjcp> that's what the package manager is for
[08:09] <BigDi> where i can get support for gnome-shell?
[08:09] <cristian_c> the script makes some symbolic links and executes an aexecutable
[08:10] <gordonjcp> cristian_c: What exactly are you trying to do?
[08:10] <cristian_c> liutz_, I've copied it (the icon) in the script directory
[08:10] <cristian_c> gordonjcp, I want to associate an icon to the script, or using a launcher for the script
[08:10] <cristian_c> :)
[08:10] <llutz_> cristian_c: which is not a place for icons (as freedektop.org defines it)
[08:11] <gordonjcp> cristian_c: what do you mean "associate"?
[08:11] <cristian_c> liutz_, ok, but the icon is not installed in xdg directory in the user system :)
[08:11] <gordonjcp> cristian_c: if you want the script to have an icon, you need to install the icon and a .desktop file for the script somewhere sensible
[08:11] <gordonjcp> cristian_c: what is this script for?
[08:12] <cristian_c> gordonjcp, = 'join'
[08:12] <sbarcteam> hi.
[08:12] <sbarcteam> when is next ubuntu ver. scheduled to be released?
[08:13] <gordonjcp> some time next week
[08:13] <DaemonicApathy> October 18.
[08:14] <cristian_c> gordonjcp, Yes, I've understood :) In the script there is the following command: ./Crusade_linux
[08:14] <cristian_c> the script makes symbolic links: ln -s libjpeg.so.62.0.0 ./lib/libjpeg.so.62
[08:14] <gordonjcp> ah right
[08:14] <BigDi> i have a ubuntu 12.10 on a dell inspiron laptop using gnome-shell: is there a way to reduce the size of the Media Device panel located on the rigth botton corner?
[08:14] <cristian_c> the commands work
[08:15] <gordonjcp> cristian_c: so what you want to do, then, is when you package your script configure the package to put the icon and .desktop file in the correct place
[08:15] <gordonjcp> BigDi: #ubuntu+1 for 12.10, until it comes out ;-)
[08:15] <cristian_c> gordonjcp, ok
[08:15] <BigDi> gordonjcp thks dude
[08:16] <cristian_c> gordonjcp, but it is not joined with the  icon before installing
[08:17] <cristian_c> then it's unuseful
[08:17] <cristian_c> :(
[08:17] <cristian_c> gordonjcp, however, I could make a package that install everything
[08:18] <cristian_c> gordonjcp, Are there alternatives to deb files?
[08:18] <cristian_c> :)
[08:18] <llutz_> cristian_c: rpm on rpm-based distros, tar.gz on slackware, lots of alternatives but non for debian-based distros
[08:19] <gordonjcp> cristian_c: not for Debian-based systems
[08:19] <gordonjcp> cristian_c: it's also not *there* before installing
[08:19] <cristian_c> gordonjcp, ok. Are there a way to install icons without building? :)
[08:19] <gordonjcp> building?
[08:19] <gordonjcp> you mean installing? no
[08:20] <gordonjcp> the *only* way to do this is to make a .deb that installs your script, the .desktop file and the icon to the correct places
[08:20] <cristian_c> gordonjcp, tar.gz use the make etc...
[08:20] <gordonjcp> everything else is just going to cause problems
[08:20] <cristian_c> gordonjcp, ok, I'll make the deb, I'll stdy everythin
[08:21] <cristian_c> thans very much
[08:21] <cristian_c> *thanks
[08:21] <cristian_c> *study
[08:22] <Wizard> Hi.
[08:25] <janat08> do i have to unzip image before burning?
[08:26] <Vernon> janat08: Typically, yes.
[08:27] <akis> hi all. what command do i haveto give to installa apt-grt?
[08:27] <akis> hi all. what command do i haveto give to installa apt-get?
[08:27] <Vernon> akis: Don't repost. sudo apt-get install ______
[08:27] <gordonjcp> janat08: if it's a zip file
[08:28] <nydel> exit
[08:28] <janat08> says that its winrar archive
[08:28] <janat08> .iso looks like zip file too right?
[08:29] <llutz_> janat08: .iso is iso not a zip/rar-file
[08:29] <janat08> k
[08:30] <janat08> alright once i unzip it i get a usual folder rather than image. infrarecorder doesn't recognize the folder as image. I'm assuming that it's windows installer rather than image. Problem with installer is that I can't attribute more space to Ubuntu partition (goes to 30% only)
[08:31] <llutz_> janat08: you don't unzip an iso-file
[08:31] <tightwork> how can I preeseed an additional repository? is local0/repository what I am looking for?
[08:33] <akis> Vermon: apt-get install gives command not foundwhat to do?
[08:34] <llutz_> akis: "ls -l /usr/bin/apt-get"
[08:35] <tightwork> I have set in preeseed d-i   netcfg/choose_interface select auto yet the  install continues to halt at configure network asking to configure eth0 and wlan0
[08:35] <tightwork> I am trying to build a auto installer
[08:36] <tightwork> no frills.. just boot and stfu preeseed doitnow pxe kthxbye see ya
[08:37] <soman> Hi all. Can I run *.sh file with two clicks from nautilus? I need smth like *.bat from Windows to run it witohut opening a terminal
[08:37] <crizis> soman, yes, you can, as long as it has +x flag
[08:38] <crizis> soman, nautilus will prompt you to either run it or display it
[08:38] <DaemonicApathy> soman: It's possible with three clicks, unless you have things set to open with one - then it would be two.
[08:39] <soman> it could be done with chmod / file's propertis, right?
[08:40] <DaemonicApathy> Yes, you just need to make it executable as a program, soman.
[08:41] <soman> DaemonicApathy: thanks
[08:41] <DaemonicApathy> np
[08:41] <ondik> ку
[08:41] <ondik> what&
[08:42] <gartral> what's the password for user on a live cd?
[08:42] <DaemonicApathy> Either blank or ubuntu, ime.
[08:43] <gartral> DaemonicApathy: neither are working for ssl
[08:43] <gartral> er, ssh
[08:44] <DaemonicApathy> gartral: If you're going to ssh into a Live session, you need to set the password manually first.
[08:44] <Dreaman> os[Linux 3.5.0-17-generic x86_64] distro[Ubuntu "quantal" 12.10] cpu[2 x AMD Athlon(tm) 7750 Dual-Core Processor (AuthenticAMD) @ 2.90GHz] mem[Physical: 3.9GB, 67.2% free] disk[Total: 925.6GB, 39.9% free] video[Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV730XT [Radeon HD 4670]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia1: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI]
[08:44] <Dreaman> :)
[08:45] <DaemonicApathy> Umm...congrats, Dreaman...
[08:49] <happy_> guys how can we format a write protected usb pendrive?
[08:50] <tightwork> happy_: never seen one
[08:50] <happy_> ok..:)
[08:50] <ikonia> happy_: make it read/write
[08:50] <happy_> how?
[08:50] <happy_> its bootable
[08:50] <ikonia> happy_: how is it set read only ?
[08:51] <ikonia> bootable has nothing to do with read/write
[08:51] <gartral> happy_: sudo chmod 1777 /media/pendrive
[08:51] <DaemonicApathy> happy_: I usually just use the Disk Utility. Unmount, format.
[08:51] <happy_> used that'
[08:51] <happy_> lemme post the error
[08:52] <KM0201> gartral: whats the "1" do?
[08:52] <llutz_> KM0201: set sticky-bit
[08:53] <ikonia> or nothing if it's an ntfs/fat file system
[08:53] <ilias> a friend of mine (not expert or advanced user) is running xubuntu 12.04. during an update the system stopped because of electricity shutdown. when the system restarted could finished the update procedure and a prohibit sign is on tray. i told hom to start manulally the update manager but he told me that the system asks him to run to a terminal the command 'apt-get install -f' i told him how to run it plus sudo, but the system returned 'command
[08:53] <ilias> not found'. porbably apt-get is not installed or something different is happen. any idea or advise how can he fix it?
[08:53] <KM0201> hmm, never saw someone use the "1"... interesting
[08:54] <ikonia> ilias: check his path
[08:54] <happy_> happy@happy:~$ sudo chmod 1777 /media/pendrive
[08:54] <happy_> chmod: cannot access `/media/pendrive': No such file or directory
[08:54] <DaemonicApathy> ilias: does the software center work?
[08:54] <ikonia> DaemonicApathy: that won't work
[08:55] <ikonia> DaemonicApathy: read what happened
[08:55] <ikonia> his system is in a split state
[08:55] <ilias> yep. it works but it stops and he read to me that the system asks (as far as i can remotely understand) for manually insert apt-get install -f
[08:56] <happy_> Error creating file system: helper exited with exit code 1: cannot open /dev/sdb1: Read-only file system
[08:56] <RamchandraApte> what's the problem
[08:56] <RamchandraApte> saw the problem
[08:56] <Asdfgh> Hi, how can I delete the update manager?
[08:56] <ikonia> happy_: /dev/sdb1 is a partition not a disk
[08:56] <ikonia> Asdfgh: why do you want to delete it
[08:56] <blackshirt> happy_, what device are you trying to format ?
[08:56] <happy_> pendrive
[08:57] <happy_> sandisk 8gb
[08:57] <RamchandraApte> happy_: odd even i have the same
[08:57] <ikonia> happy_: 1.) is the file system currently mounted ?
[08:57] <blackshirt> happy_, formatted with ntfs ?
[08:57] <ilias> DaemonicApathy: sorry the 'update manager' asks for this command. i didnt confirm if now the system center works? why, what to do?
[08:57] <RamchandraApte> happy_: use a graphical tool
[08:57] <matej_> can someone tell why I always need to mount ntfs partitions when I turn on PC?
[08:57] <happy_> i tried everything unmounted it before formating etc
[08:57] <ilias> ikonia: what you mean his system is split?
[08:58] <DaemonicApathy> I was going to suggest reinstalling apt, ilias. If ikonia has a better thought, though, you may want to go with that. :-)
[08:58] <ikonia> happy_: are you running the install from this
[08:58] <happy_> but doesnt work
[08:58] <ikonia> matej_: what are you expecting
[08:58]  * tightwork smashes head against desk
[08:58] <ikonia> ilias: in the middle of an upgrade
[08:58] <happy_> file system is ntfs
[08:58] <ikonia> happy_: are you on the machine now ?
[08:58] <happy_> yes
[08:58] <dads> OMFG. anybody from nc?
[08:58] <ikonia> happy_: please post the output of the following commands "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb" and "mount"
[08:58] <happy_> ok
[08:59] <ikonia> dads: no need for that language
[08:59] <ikonia> dads: this channel is for ubuntu support, you're welcome to discuss on that topic
[08:59] <matej_> ikonia: i want that when i turn on pc that all disks are mounted
[08:59] <ikonia> matej_: have you told the machine to mount the NTFS partitions ?
[08:59] <ilias> ikonia: in the middle of an usual update.
[08:59] <ikonia> ilias: yes
[08:59] <matej_> ikonia: no how can i do that? im newbie
[09:00] <ikonia> matej_: depends how you want to mount them. The normal mount for "system wide" mounts is to use /etc/fstab, or you can mount them manually within user space.
[09:00] <tightwork> read docs, do docs, docs wrong, fail, normal day in ubuntu world
[09:00] <ikonia> tightwork: please stop
[09:01] <ikonia> tightwork: if you want to add value to the conversation, please do so, if you want to just complain/moan, don't bother
[09:01] <happy_> happy@happy:~$ "sudo fdisk -1 /dev/sdb" and "mount"
[09:01] <happy_> bash: sudo fdisk -1 /dev/sdb: No such file or directory
[09:01] <ilias> ikonia: so how can he fix it to continues updates and get everyfuture update?
[09:01] <ikonia> ilias: you need to run the command the installer told you
[09:01] <ikonia> happy_: ok, so how can you partition /dev/sdb1 if /dev/sdb doesn't exist
[09:02] <ikonia> or "format"
[09:02] <dads> whats the convo about? i just showed up myself
[09:02] <happy_> not able to do partition
[09:02] <tgary> Hi! Is there any way to change workspace by scrolling on the desktop? (Using ubuntu 12.04 with unity.)
[09:02] <ilias> ikonia: the command is 'apt-get install -f' but the system doesnt accept it. it returns 'command not found'!
[09:02] <ikonia> ilias: yes, and I told you check his path
[09:02] <happy_> on running dmesg
[09:03] <ikonia> happy_: ok, so your disk device is not /dev/sdb as you thought
[09:03] <ikonia> happy_: please pastebin (not in the channel) the output of "sudo fdisk -l"
[09:03] <happy_> sudo fdisk -1
[09:03] <ilias> ok. how can he check this? i told him to give the command as root (sudo)
[09:03] <happy_> ??
[09:03] <ikonia> happy_: yes
[09:04] <ikonia> ilias: are you new to linux ?
[09:04] <ilias> no. but i cannot know everything!
[09:04] <happy_> device-/dev/sdb1
[09:04] <ikonia> ilias: ok, so check the path enviornment variable
[09:04] <ikonia> ilias: this is a basic thing to check
[09:05] <ikonia> ilias: I was only asking as you implied your friend was new, but you where not new, so I'm giving you a basic thing to check
[09:05] <happy_> read only file so m not able to format it
[09:05] <ikonia> happy_: please run the command I asked for
[09:05] <DaemonicApathy> tgary: you can set the scroll wheel to change workspaces with compizconfig-settings-manager
[09:05] <DaemonicApathy> happy_: "sudo fdisk -l" The last character is a lowercase L.
[09:05] <happy_> ok
[09:05] <ikonia> DaemonicApathy: thank you, I didn't notice he'd use a 1
[09:05] <llutz_> ilias: tell him to use 'sudo /usr/bin/apt-get install -f'   if it fails with "command not found" too, he has severe problems and not a path-issue
[09:06] <DaemonicApathy> You're busy, ikonia. I'm better as an editor than an active helper sometimes.
[09:06] <vitimiti> (·_·)/
[09:06] <happy_> Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
[09:06] <happy_> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders, total 976773168 sectors
[09:06] <happy_> Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
[09:06] <happy_> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[09:06] <happy_> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[09:06] <happy_> Disk identifier: 0x0009b2a4
[09:06] <FloodBot1> happy_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:07] <ilias> llutz: do i have maybe to tell me him to reinstall apt using ubuntu software center?
[09:07] <ikonia> tell him to do what llutz_ has said
[09:07] <ikonia> instead of random things
[09:07] <ikonia> why ask for help to then do something totally different
[09:07] <happy_> ??
[09:08] <ikonia> happy_: I told you NOT to paste in the channel
[09:08] <ikonia> and yet you still did it
[09:08] <happy_> yup got kicked out
[09:08] <happy_> :)
[09:08] <ikonia> happy_: start reading and paying attention to what people are giving you
[09:08] <happy_> ok.:)
[09:08] <ikonia> happy_: you got kicked out because I kicked you out, because you are not doing what you are asked to do
[09:08] <DaemonicApathy> happy_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ is for long pastes, to avoid the floodbots.
[09:08] <happy_> ok thanks
[09:08] <happy_> m new here
[09:09] <happy_> i dun no how n where to post long outputs
[09:09] <ikonia> happy_: being new doesn't mean you can't follow instructions
[09:09] <happy_> sorry
[09:09] <KM0201> new=poor excuse for not having common sense to not post tons of text in a support chatroom like this.
[09:09] <ikonia> happy_: right, so say that
[09:09] <joe_evans> can anyone recomend a similar program to audacity - am having problems with it
[09:09] <ikonia> happy_: "I don't know how" rather than just do the opposite of what you've been asked to do
[09:09] <ilias> ok.ok. thank you guys. i know all these. if i had straight access to the machine it would be totally different. but i havent so i just want to know some possible solutions to check them all together one after the other.
[09:09] <dads> anybody from nc?
[09:09] <ikonia> ilias: you don't know all of this
[09:09] <happy_> lol its ok i asked for help does not mean m poor
[09:09] <happy_> byeee thanks all
[09:09] <happy_> njoy
[09:09] <genera> cool
[09:10] <happy_> m 16year old
[09:10] <nikre> hi, i am useing xrdp to connect to ubuntu from win7. but xrdp serves over a new xsession but i want to use the same xsession as the monitor ubuntu machine is connected to. any ideas?
[09:10] <nikre> using*
[09:11] <DaemonicApathy> nikre: local network?
[09:11] <arunkumar413> i how to develop qt application using python
[09:11] <nikre> DaemonicApathy, yes
[09:11] <genera> nikre,  what about .. nxmachine?
[09:11] <madbird> Hallo all, I have some questions about ubuntu needing some network and security skills, can anybody help me?
[09:11] <dads> anybody from nc?
[09:12] <nikre> genera, will check it.
[09:12] <llutz_> !ask | madbird
[09:12] <DaemonicApathy> !ot | dads
[09:12] <ilias> ikonia: ok. thanks. i sent him in an email the command sudo /usr/bin/apt-get install -f and if it works it would be fine. if not i will connect here and i will try remotely to  help him asking for you experty to advise us!
[09:12] <joe_evans> !patience
[09:14] <madbird> how do I know which other computers are connected to mine while working with it? THX
[09:14] <llutz_> lsof -i
[09:15] <llutz_> oops
[09:20] <jan_> hello
[09:20] <jan_> i need some help
[09:20] <jan_> anyone here
[09:20] <RamchandraApte> jan_:please describe
[09:20] <Wug> no
[09:20] <Wug> nobody else is here
[09:21] <Wug> the other 1527 people are imaginary.
[09:21] <RamchandraApte> Wug:please don't hurt him/her - it must be his/her first time
[09:21] <Wug> !ask | jan_
[09:22] <jan_> i have a site http://torrent.gostovanja.eu it is runing java irc client (pjirc) and I cant connect to any irc server even my own or localhost i allways get the same error
[09:22] <jan_> Error:
[09:22] <jan_> java.security.AccessControlException : access denied
[09:22] <jan_> "java.net.SocketPermission" "irc.gostovanja.eu:6667" "resolve"
[09:23] <madbird> thx for all your help. Ciao!
[09:24] <jan_> the server the site is runing on is ubuntu 12.0.4 LTS
[09:25] <DaemonicApathy> *12.04 or 12.04.1
[09:25] <jan_> 12.04.1 LTS
[09:26] <DaemonicApathy> I'm no good with Java, but I would at least suggest making sure your ports are configured correctly.
[09:27] <jan_> what ports do i need to open?
[09:27] <jan_> i can connect to my irc server with any irc client
[09:28] <jan_> my server is irc.gostovanja.eu
[09:28] <DaemonicApathy> In that case, you may want to find a Java group to help out.
[09:30] <jan_> thanks for your help
[09:30] <genera> afaik the applet has to "run" on the same machine
[09:31] <jan_> but i still think this is a ubuntu java error
[09:31] <genera> once java sees www!=irc it stops
[09:31] <jan_> it is rouning on the same machine
[09:31] <genera> for a detected security violation. works as advertized.
[09:31] <genera> the names have to be the same
[09:32] <genera> but i did that 5+ years ago
[09:32] <genera> good luck
[09:33] <jan_> java aplet runs on the same machine as site
[09:33] <jan_> torrent.gostovanja.eu
[09:34] <genera> torrent.gostovanja.eu != irc.gostovanja.eu
[09:34] <genera> or something like that
[09:35] <jan_> i tried with torrent.gostovanja.eu but it doest work eve tried localhost
[09:36] <jan_> i cant connect to any irc server
[09:39] <neqerrlvl> hello
[09:40] <neqerrlvl> I'm the same guy who made this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2056068 and the problem is, my sound doesn't work anymore and the solution I provided myself doesn't even work any longer. Any help?
[09:41] <jan_> I have tried all names irc.gostovanja.eu:6667 ...torrent.gostovanja.eu:6667....gostovanja.eu:6667 ...localhost:6667
[09:41] <neqerrlvl> Truly nothing works to get audio working because this crappy ALSA doesn't recognise the soundcard of my laptop. It works fine though on the Live-CD.
[09:45] <DaemonicApathy> I wonder if you could pull the sound drivers off of the CD.
[09:48] <jan_> Still got the same error! It has to do something with ubuntu java settings! Error:
[09:48] <jan_> java.security.AccessControlException : access denied
[09:48] <jan_> "java.net.SocketPermission" "irc.gostovanja.eu:6667" "resolve"
[09:48] <jan_> "java.net.SocketPermission" "gostovanja.eu:6667" "resolve"
[09:49] <Corelmen> how kan i update ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS to te newest kernel like 3.5 of 3.6 ?
[09:49] <jan_> "java.net.SocketPermission" "torrent.gostovanja.eu:6667" "resolve"
[09:49] <jan_> "java.net.SocketPermission" "localhost:6667" "resolve"
[09:50] <jan_> java.Security.AccessControlException : access denied
[09:50] <Phaba_> is there any way of getting the old gnome gui back? instead of unity?
[09:51] <Guest47237> i got i question if i install kde on ubuntu adn remove all gnome adn unity stuff is it fully kubuntu?
[09:52] <iceroot> Guest47237: yes
[09:52] <KM0201> Phaba_: there was a fallback, but i'm not sure how functional it is (i remember reading complaints about it)
[09:52] <KM0201> !gnome
[09:52] <iceroot> !purekde | Guest47237
[09:52] <KM0201> !gnome-session
[09:52] <iceroot> !classic | Phaba_
[09:52] <KM0201> there you go...
[09:52] <KM0201> lol
[09:53] <neqerrlvl> This is so unbelievable! What prevents me from getting sound half the time? If I go to the volume thingy in the Xfce menubar, it doesn't give me my speakers but some dummy-output
[09:53] <Phaba_> officially unity is gnome right? or is it classed as different?
[09:53] <iceroot> !nounity | Phaba_
[09:53] <Corelmen> how kan i update ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS to te newest kernel like 3.5 of 3.6 ?
[09:53] <neqerrlvl> !alsa | neqerrlvl
[09:53] <iceroot> Phaba_: unity is a shell for gnome3
[09:53] <iceroot> Corelmen: with a ppa, why you need that kernel?
[09:53] <minimec> Corelmen: This could be a good start https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Dev/KernelTesting
[09:53] <Phaba_> iceroot, cheers
[09:54] <Guest47237> ice799, ok thansk do ubuntu and kubuntu get all the same updates?
[09:54] <iceroot> Guest47237: yes
[09:54] <iceroot> Guest47237: its the same base-system with the same repo just with another desktop
[09:55] <neqerrlvl> hmm maybe some of this will help? sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` linux-generic     let's find out
[09:55] <Guest47237> iceroot, ok thanks
[09:55] <iceroot> Guest47237: but i am not sure if kde will also get 5 years of sec updates in the lts release 12.04
[09:55] <iceroot> imo kde is no longer an official derivat hosted from canocial
[09:56] <neqerrlvl> Oh and it even gets better. If I follow the instructions on the Help page, Terminal returns that the requested packages are not available. Great.
[09:57] <Guest47237> iceroot, ok thanks, will install kde and remove unity so full kde system still work?
[09:57] <jan_> do i need to get help from some java guru? I thought that in ubuntu java isnt restricted?
[09:57] <Guest47237> jan_, can get java via software manger
[09:58] <jan_> i got java 6 and 7 and icedtea
[09:58] <iceroot> Guest47237: yes
[09:58] <iceroot> jan_: there is only openjdk
[09:58] <iceroot> jan_: its not allowed to put oracle java in the repos anymore so we are just providing openjdk java
[09:58] <neqerrlvl> ALSA Logic:             $ sudo modprobe snd-82801I         results in this:        FATAL: Module snd_82801I not found.
[09:59] <jan_> ok
[10:00] <happy_> ikonia?
[10:00] <Guest47237> iceroot, thanks
[10:01] <jan_> ok i have openjdk 6 and 7
[10:01] <KM0201> neqerrlvl: what's that device in lspci?.. is it one of the intelhda's?
[10:01] <Guest47237> iceroot, one more question can ubuntu be upgraded via cd safely without havign to reinstall?
[10:02] <neqerrlvl> KM0201: I have no idea, I have an ASUS laptop and there is a bunch of Intel on it (Intel Family built-in graphics, sound etc.)
[10:03] <KM0201> neqerrlvl: open a terminal type "lspci" (lowercase L) no quotes, and hit enter.  find the audio line, and tell me exactly what it says (do9n't copy'paste the whole list here)
[10:07] <jan_> is openjdk somehowe restricted or why do i get "java.net.SocketPermission" "localhost:6667" "resolve"
[10:07] <jan_> java.Security.AccessControlException : access denied
[10:09] <happy_> how can we format a write protected usb pendrive?
[10:09] <happy_> i tried gparted,disk utility
[10:11] <iceroot> happy_: not possible
[10:11] <gordonjcp> happy_: you can't
[10:11] <iceroot> happy_: you cant write on write-protect as the name says
[10:11] <gordonjcp> happy_: I've got a couple that have failed with write-protect on in software
[10:11] <happy_> ney alternatives??
[10:12] <tapas> hmm. all youtube videos have colors reversed for quite a while now...
[10:13] <happy_> used all fdisk /dev/pendrive then delete etc
[10:13] <bizoo> used all fdisk /dev/pendrive then delete etc
[10:13] <tapas> the same with a gt9500 and 220gt
[10:13] <bizoo> the same with a gt9500 and 220gt
[10:13] <iceroot> bizoo: stop that
[10:13] <bizoo> bizoo: stop that
[10:13] <happy_> but did not able to change r to rw
[10:13] <bizoo> but did not able to change r to rw
[10:13] <FloodBot1> bizoo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:13] <bizoo> bizoo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:13] <tapas> lal
[10:13] <iceroot> !ops | bizoo
[10:16] <arunkumar413> hi guys i want to develop qt apps for using python
[10:16] <tapas> arunkumar413: good for you :D
[10:16] <iceroot> arunkumar413: #qt #python
[10:17] <tapas> iceroot: wait him out.. maybe his question is ubuntu specific
[10:17] <iceroot> tapas: i dont see a question, just offtopic stuff :)
[10:25] <vinit> i have some problem regarding hardware can any one help
[10:25] <iceroot> vinit: depending on the question, but there is also ##hardware
[10:25] <happy_> ??
[10:26] <vinit> i have broadcom wireless card and ubuntu install wl driver but i want b43 driver
[10:27] <starbuck33> hi, is there a way to prevent chromium from downloading embedded videos automatically?
[10:28] <tapas> starbuck33: it doesn't do that for me..
[10:28] <tapas> starbuck33: do you have any extensions installed?
[10:29] <starbuck33> tapas: yes, fvd video downloader
[10:29] <starbuck33> which is btw not so great
[10:29] <tapas> starbuck33: well, disable it.. does it still download the videos automatically?
[10:29] <tapas> if not you found your culprit
[10:36] <starbuck33> tapas: ok, thx
[10:36] <starbuck33> seems to work
[10:37] <john2> how do you change the bit depth in Ubuntu 12.04?
[10:37] <bekks> john2: Bit depth of what?
[10:37] <john2> bekks: of the monitor - this is a laptop
[10:38] <john2> bekks: since having installed the ATI drivers the colors are all wrong ...
[10:38] <sorbiq> Hi all
[10:39] <tozen> sorbiq, hi
[10:39] <bekks> john2: So which color depth do you have currently?
[10:39] <john2> bekks: that's the thing ... I don't know, but I know it's way too low
[10:39] <john2> bekks: how does one check?
[10:40] <sorbiq>  I have problem with my ubuntu 12.04 I can't login into my account after installing graphics driver for nvidia
[10:40] <bekks> john2: By looking at the /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:40] <sorbiq> System constantly rolling back to login screen
[10:41] <starbuck33> tapas: well i think it's just that site: http://interactivepython.org
[10:41] <sorbiq> But guest account is working and I can log in
[10:41] <tapas> sorbiq: drop into the console with ctrl-alt-f1, log in, take a look in to /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:41] <bekks> sorbiq: So it finds an account, logs you in, crashes, and takes you back to the login screen.
[10:41] <tapas> sorbiq: to get back to the login manager, press alt-f7
[10:41] <tapas> and if alt-f7 doesn;t work, try f8 f9, etc..
[10:41] <sorbiq> Ok I will try
[10:41] <tapas> sorbiq: oh waity
[10:41] <tapas> sorbiq: i just saw that your guest account is working.. might be anything then..
[10:42] <tapas> sorbiq: seems the driver isn't the issue..
[10:42] <tapas> sorbiq: can you try gnome-2d for a login?
[10:42] <sorbiq> tapas: I thin so to
[10:42] <bekks> Why not taking a look at the log first...?
[10:42]  * tapas really thinks that ubuntu should show some log or something upon login failure..
[10:42] <sorbiq> I've already tried with gnome and cinnamone always the same story
[10:42] <Wobbo> I need another software than EOG... So, what is the best other software than EOG. Just to see pictures. Nothing more nothing less.
[10:43] <tapas> i was puzzled for a while why i couldn't log in.. turned out my home directory was full ;D
[10:43] <gordonjcp> Wobbo: standard is geeqie
[10:43] <bekks> tapas: The Xorg.0.log tells you everything you need :)
[10:43] <gordonjcp> Wobbo: that's the replacement for gqview
[10:43] <danawar2> Cannot get ubuntu to download
[10:43] <john2> bekks: what exactly am I looking for here?
[10:43] <danawar2> can some one give me another location for 12.04:32
[10:44] <tapas> bekks: yes, which only people with experience know how to look at
[10:44] <bekks> john2: For the color depth, as you want to know which color depth you are using.
[10:45] <john2> this? [    20.151] (II) fglrx(0): Using 8 bits per RGB
[10:45] <gordonjcp> danawar2: check the mirrors list
[10:45] <john2> bekks: ... this? [    20.151] (II) fglrx(0): Using 8 bits per RGB
[10:46] <john2> bekks: how do I know Ubuntu is actually using the ATI driver and not the VESA driver?
[10:46] <bekks> john2: Thats perfect. The red, gree, blue colors are using 8 Bit each, so you have 24 Bits in total.
[10:47] <john2> bekks: well it's not actually working with that ... when I switch to my Intel gfx there is a major diff in color and gradients are smooth
[10:48] <john2> bekks: how do I know Ubuntu is actually using the ATI driver and not the VESA driver?
[10:48] <sorbiq> tapas: Im looking in log right now what what should I search?
[10:48] <sorbiq> tapas: In xorg of course
[10:48] <tapas> sorbiq: any lines starting with "EE"?
[10:49] <bekks> john2: That may apply, but the color depth is correct.
[10:50] <sorbiq> tapas: No errors
[10:50] <bekks> john2: The log will tell you which driver is used, too.
[10:50] <danawar2> gordonjcp: im here > http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/ where do i go from here to get the iso?
[10:50] <bekks> sorbiq: Which Ubuntu do you have exactly? And did you ensure taht your filesystems arent filled up?
[10:50] <john2> bekks: there is a heck of a lot of info in that log ...
[10:51] <sorbiq> Ubuntu 12.04
[10:51] <sorbiq> tapas: Ubuntu 12.04
[10:51] <bekks> john2: You could pastebin it, too.
[10:51] <bekks> !pastebin | john2
[10:51] <gordonjcp> danawar2: not sure how you got there, or why...
[10:52] <gordonjcp> !download | danawar2
[10:52] <Wobbo> gordonjcp: thank you!
[10:53] <sorbiq> tapas: How can I check my home directory from terminal?
[10:54] <john2> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1278774/
[10:54] <bekks> sorbiq: "df -h"
[10:55] <sorbiq> talas: Thx
[10:55] <hualet> Can anyone gtk guy can tell me what's this?  dbus.mainloop.glib.threads_init()
[10:56] <Wobbo> Someone is offering me a HP Photosmart 7510, but, is not supported yet: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrintersHp
[10:56] <sorbiq> talas: I've got 15G of free space in my home directory
[10:56] <Wobbo> What to do?
[10:56] <sorbiq> talas: And root has 4.1 G
[10:56] <bekks> sorbiq: I am not talas. :)
[10:57] <bekks> Wobbo: Decide yourself, it's your money :)
[10:57] <sorbiq> bekks: Sorry
[10:58] <john2> bekks: anything in the pastebin helpful towards knowing what driver is in use?
[10:58] <bekks> john2: The fglrx driver is in use.
[10:58] <sorbiq> bekks: 15 G of free space in home dir and 4.1 G in root
[10:58] <bekks> sorbiq: You already said that.
[10:59] <john2> bekks: but no way to change the bit depth?
[10:59] <sorbiq> bekks: what else I can check?
[10:59] <bekks> john2: The color depth of 24 Bit is correct.
[10:59] <tapas> sorbiq: maybe there's gnome logs..
[10:59] <tapas> sorbiq: i don't use gnome though, so i wouldn't know..
[10:59] <bekks> sorbiq: Provide the entire Xorg.0.log in a pastebin please.
[10:59] <tapas> sorbiq: oh and in your home directory:
[10:59] <bekks> !pastebin | sorbiq
[11:00] <tapas> cat .xsession-errors
[11:00] <tapas> note the dot
[11:01] <Wobbo> bekks: no, it's not my money, is given to me! But "HP Photosmart 7510" is not in the lust of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrintersHp
[11:01] <john2> bekks: I am sure it is - but it's obviously not being used on that depth ...
[11:01] <john2> bekks: so again, is there a way to change the bit depth in Ubuntu?
[11:02] <bekks> Wobbo: Then take a look at the HPLIP site and/or OpenPrinting site, wether that printer is supported on Linux.
[11:03] <bekks> john2: 24 Bit IS correct. And if you want to change that, you have to mess around with the /etc/X11/xorg.conf which is pointless in your case.
[11:06] <bekks> sorbiq: Continue in here please, not in a query.
[11:06] <sorbiq> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1278790
[11:07] <bekks> sorbiq: That looks correct. What about the other file?
[11:08] <sorbiq> bekks: You mean gnome logs?
[11:11] <CaBa> hi
[11:11] <suttiwit> Hi, I am on UBuntu 12.04.1 ; I am seeing a lot of lack of features on byobu, such as: I can not change the background color or the foreground color of the status bar. I also have problems, I cannot press the key with SHIFT, CTRL, CTRL+SHIFT. I could only press the function keys for the byobu shortcut.
[11:12] <CaBa> what happened to the firefox-stable ppa of the mozilla team? is that no longer around?
[11:12] <bekks> sorbiq: The X error log.
[11:12] <day-cn> a
[11:12] <Guest58247> Hi all, I have a problem with my internal microphone, Im working on Lenovo g570 and microphone doesnt works on Ubuntu, so I searched google and found solution, which tells that I have to edit /etc/modprobe.d/sound.conf, but it doesnt exists, can anyone help? there is solution, I have talked about : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1787156
[11:13] <iceroot> CaBa: we are using the firefox stable release in our main repo now, so there is no need for the ppa
[11:13] <CaBa> iceroot: ah. thanks for the info.
[11:13] <sorbiq> bekks: There is no x error log
[11:14] <bekks> sorbiq: So which file are you looking for?
[11:14] <sorbiq> bekks: Maybe sys.log?
[11:14] <bekks> sorbiq: No.
[11:15] <bekks> sorbiq: ~/.xsession-errors
[11:15] <bekks> In the home of a user how cant login.
[11:16] <Guest58247> Can anyone help??
[11:17] <Guest58247> I wrote problem
[11:17] <Guest58247> "(...)I have a problem with my internal microphone, Im working on Lenovo g570 and microphone doesnt works on Ubuntu, so I searched google and found solution, which tells that I have to edit /etc/modprobe.d/sound.conf, but it doesnt exists, can anyone help? there is solution, I have talked about : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1787156 "
[11:18] <tapas> Guest58247: you might try /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[11:18] <bekks> sorbiq: You still there?
[11:18] <suttiwit> Hi, I am on UBuntu 12.04.1 ; I am seeing a lot of lack of features on byobu, such as: I can not change the background color or the foreground color of the status bar. I also have problems, I cannot press the key with SHIFT, CTRL, CTRL+SHIFT. I could only press the function keys for the byobu shortcut.
[11:18] <suttiwit> Hi, I am on UBuntu 12.04.1 ; I am seeing a lot of lack of features on byobu, such as: I can not change the background color or the foreground color of the status bar. I also have problems, I cannot press the key with SHIFT, CTRL, CTRL+SHIFT. I could only press the function keys for the byobu shortcut.
[11:19] <suttiwit> Hi, I am on UBuntu 12.04.1 ; I am seeing a lot of lack of features on byobu, such as: I can not change the background color or the foreground color of the status bar. I also have problems, I cannot press the key with SHIFT, CTRL, CTRL+SHIFT. I could only press the function keys for the byobu shortcut.
[11:19] <suttiwit> Hi, I am on UBuntu 12.04.1 ; I am seeing a lot of lack of features on byobu, such as: I can not change the background color or the foreground color of the status bar. I also have problems, I cannot press the key with SHIFT, CTRL, CTRL+SHIFT. I could only press the function keys for the byobu shortcut.
[11:19] <suttiwit> I am on UBuntu 12.04.1 ; I am seeing a lot of lack of features on byobu, such as: I can not change the background color or the foreground color of the status bar. I also have problems, I cannot press the key with SHIFT, CTRL, CTRL+SHIFT. I could only press the function keys for the byobu shortcut.
[11:19] <bekks> !ops | suttiwit
[11:19] <suttiwit> oop
[11:19] <suttiwit> s
[11:19] <suttiwit> sorry
[11:19] <Guest58247> tapas: I have tried already, but I dont see there any entry about, I will paste
[11:20] <suttiwit> sorry all! my gpm.
[11:20] <suttiwit> I thought my gpm didn't work until i did the scroll down! I am so sorry, I did *NOT* mean it.
[11:21] <sorbiq> bekks: paste.ubuntu.com/1278816
[11:22] <Guest58247> tapas: http://pastebin.com/mFWYibgj
[11:22] <sorbiq> bekks: xsession log
[11:22] <BlackNarcissus> Hello everyone. I am using a fresh 12.04 64bits install on an Acer netbook, with the fglrx proprietary ATI drivers, and most of the time, Ubuntu hangs at boot, on the lightdm screen. No shorcuts work, everything in unresponsive, and I need to force reboot. The only way I can boot is by going into recovery and continuing normal boot.
[11:25] <Alex______> ?
[11:25] <Guest24983> hello
[11:25] <Alex______> hi
[11:26] <suttiwit> Well, no nobody helps me. I already appologise. I am not the one to be blamed, ok, here: blame irssi: This IRC client does not scroll down completely, blame gpm: It does not say anything when I paste. Look! I am human. I don't have bugs. irssi and gpm do have bugs. You've got to admit it. It is the nature of software. Have a loook... You have been part/quit/joining on me and calling ops when I did not mean it. Okay, It's not my fault! So, go repor
[11:26] <Guest24983> where is chinese channel?
[11:26] <bekks> !cn | Guest24983
[11:27] <Alex______> can anybody help please?
[11:27] <Guest24983> thanks
[11:27] <sorbiq> Alex______: With what?
[11:28] <Alex______> installing jdownloader on ubuntu 12.10
[11:28] <bekks> Alex______: The 12.10 support can be found in #ubuntu+1
[11:28] <Alex______> thx
[11:29] <sorbiq> bekks: Did you found something?
[11:29] <bekks> sorbiq: Looks quite good, as far as I can tell.
[11:31] <sorbiq> bekks: So what can I do ? Thing is strange cause I can log into guest account without a problem, but mine account keeps rolling back to login screen
[11:32] <bekks> sorbiq: I'd just create a new user and use that one.
[11:33] <sorbiq> bekks: This is simplest solution, but is there any way to wipe my personal settings from account? Maybe this will help? Don't you think?
[11:39] <blz> Hi!  What is the third column of `ls -l` output?  Column 1 is the permissions, followed by the owner, followed by ______?
[11:39] <bekks> blz: group
[11:39] <blackshirt> group
[11:40] <blz> bekks, blackshirt, ok that makes sense.  How would I change a group?
[11:40] <bekks> blz: chgrp
[11:40] <blz> bekks, cool thank you!
[11:43] <sorbiq> bekks: I've created new user but I can't log in this new account either same problem
[11:43] <zth> i'm trying to install ia32-libs but i keep getting:  ia32-libs : Depends: ia32-libs-multiarch  <-- and that's not available/installable. i'm on 12.04 64-bit. any ideas?
[11:43] <bekks> sorbiq: Did you set a password for that user?
[11:43] <sorbiq> Yes
[11:43] <blackshirt> sorbiq, you should not use blank password
[11:44] <sorbiq> With passwd
[11:44] <sorbiq> blackshirt: It wasn't blank
[11:44] <blz> Silly question, but is there a way to issue a `cp` command such that it shows you how much it has copied as it goes?
[11:45] <RamchandraApte> blz: for kde, kde-cp pops up a graphical interface while copying the file
[11:46] <blz> RamchandraApte, thanks, but I was hoping for a desktop-environment-agnostic solution.  I'm working with ubuntu server =)
[11:51] <TopGear> Hi there.
[11:55] <shad0wfax> hi
[11:56] <sorbiq> Ok thanks for help I've wiped home directory and now everything is working
[11:57] <sorbiq> Once again thx bekks and talas
[11:58] <TopGear> Is there someone here who knows how to figure out if my laptop's got a SATA rev. 2 or rev. 3 port? I've already done lshw and lspci but I can't really figure out.
[11:59] <bekks> TopGear: It should be mentioned in the manufacturers manual.
[12:01] <TopGear> bekks: Unfortunately not...
[12:02] <TopGear> Hmm...
[12:03] <raven> how to (easily) create encrypted swap partition/file?
[12:05] <sasuke> hi guys, can anyone tell me what is the requirement for 12.10 version
[12:05] <bekks> sasuke: Requirement regarding what?
[12:06] <sasuke> bekks, oh sry , system requirement ?
[12:08] <raven> how to (easily) create encrypted swap partition/file?
[12:09] <bekks> raven: There is no easy way.
[12:11] <sasuke> ?
[12:12] <sasuke> intel p4 processor,  1GB ram, 50GB HD space is it ok for ubuntu 12.04/12.10?
[12:13] <blackshirt> sasuke, not the problems
[12:13] <sasuke> ok
[12:14] <raven> bekks then give me the hard way with nice howtos ^^
[12:16] <bekks> raven: It all depends on the encryption you are using.
[12:17] <raven> bekks i just need any encrypted swap space
[12:17] <sphenxes> Is it possible to install ubuntu on zotac nano 867?
[12:20] <dgx> how can i switch my KBD layout from english, to another language(ubuntu, with lubuntu desktop)
[12:23] <Raerth> Hi people, I'm using 12.04 and after my last restart it forces a lower resolution on me. I've tried following a tutorial to add the higher resolution to xrandr, but cannot seem to make these changes persistent. Here is the help thread I was following: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1112186
[12:24] <matanya> anyone familiar with expect?
[12:25] <bekks> matanya: I bet someone is. Please just ask your specific question.
[12:28] <matanya> thanks. I trying to scp using expect to a machine that doesn't have keys enabled
[12:28] <matanya> I get: send: spawn id exp4 not open
[12:39] <Mrokii> Hello. Can somebody explain to me how cutting out a portion of a video via OpenShot works?
[12:40] <knight07> hi
[12:43] <iszak> So I'm trying to disable ubuntu 12.04 built in gestures, but synclient can't disable the 4 finger gestures, how can I disable the 3/4 finger gestures?
[12:59] <vitas> #ubuntu
[12:59] <vitas> hi
[13:00] <vitas> i need help on using my phone as a modem
[13:00] <vitas> i use the latest verion of ubuntu
[13:01] <arunkumar413> how to switch between editor tabs
[13:01] <vitas> any one any idea???
[13:01] <bekks> !details | vitas
[13:04] <vitas> i use version 12(laest one) i am able to use it by pairing via bluetooth(but slow), so i want to connect via cable
[13:05] <bekks> vitas: Which version is "last one"?
[13:05] <vitas> i have succesfully and my phone as a modem, but unable to connect it
[13:05] <vitas> sorry (latest one) just download last week...
[13:06] <bekks> vitas: NAME the version please. Which one do you have? 12.04 or 12.10?
[13:06] <vitas> 12.04
[13:09] <Muttley_> hi. how can i share a folder between linux and windows. i need to mount a linux folder via LAN on Windows XP. it is really urgent (for job)
[13:09] <vitas> the use the ubuntu v12.04
[13:10] <bekks> Muttley_: Then you have to create a samba share on your Ubuntu.
[13:10]  * Corelmen When will Steam Beta For Linux release date
[13:11] <vitas> any luck?
[13:12] <Muttley_> bekks:  how do i do it?
[13:12] <bekks> !samba | Muttley_
[13:12] <cornihilio> hey, what's the best way to count how many times an ascii word appears in a binary file?
[13:13] <bekks> cornihilio: "count" :)
[13:13] <bekks> Doh, "wc" :)
[13:14] <vitas> ?
[13:15] <vitas> any guids on how to do the same?
[13:15] <cornihilio> wc is a total, I want to find the # for a specific word
[13:15] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:16] <vitas> i need some response!!!!
[13:16] <bekks> cornihilio: wc does the job. :)
[13:17] <bekks> cornihilio: you can even use grep for counting.
[13:18] <vitas> its a lot of pain coming into the chat session, where we dont get support
[13:18] <vitas> i wonder why is it named so???/
[13:19] <bekks> vitas: Almost everyone in here supports in his/her free time. So you have no right to get support.
[13:19] <t4b> Hey, what command would I use to produce some simple beep or something? So I know when a command is finished?
[13:19] <bekks> vitas: People do spend their time, and freely decide what they can support and what they cant support (du to policies, knowledge, mood).
[13:19] <vitas> at least give some some trouble shooting links
[13:20] <v4lve> hi
[13:20] <bekks> t4b: "beep" :)
[13:20] <v4lve> can i help u
[13:20] <vitas> any links, any refference, etc wolud
[13:21] <v4lve> !uptime
[13:21] <Shadow`> Windows7 Uptime: 2days 20hrs 4mins 24secs Best: 1wk 4days 20hrs 53mins 30secs
[13:22] <v4lve> !uptime
[13:22] <Shadow`> Windows7 Uptime: 2days 20hrs 4mins 48secs Best: 1wk 4days 20hrs 53mins 30secs
[13:22] <v4lve> !help
[13:22] <bekks> v4lve: Get your bot out of here please.
[13:22] <Myrtti> Shadow`: please disable that script
[13:22] <v4lve> !help
[13:22] <v4lve> !uptime
[13:22] <t4b> bekks, somehow that doesn't seem to work. I installed it, run "beep" and it just does nothing. beep --version shows the version and beep --help the help, but I don't get any sound
[13:23] <maradona> ciao a tutti
[13:23] <maximooo> ciao
[13:24] <bekks> t4b: Do you have the kernel module loaded, for your speaker?
[13:24] <vitas> i have already created a dial-up connection via cable, i just need to know why doestnt the connect appear?
[13:24] <v4lve> hmmm
[13:25] <t4b> bekks, I haven't got a clue of any kernel module for the speaker, but sound works in principle, I hear the beep when adjusting the volume, for example.
[13:25] <vitas> there is  a connct tab but it is inactivie?
[13:25] <bekks> t4b: That "beep" command uses the internal speaker on your motherboard.
[13:27] <t4b> bekks, Ah, should have guessed that. Do you know the name of that kernel module?
[13:27] <t4b> Or does the name vary depending on the motherboard?
[13:28] <alain_> irc.voila.fr
[13:28] <bekks> t4b: It's named like "pcspkr" or something. Havent used it for ten years.
[13:29] <vitas> how to connct modem?
[13:29] <t4b> bekks, "pcspkr" seems to exist (at least modprobe pcspkr didn't complain), but it still doesn't work.
[13:29] <v4lve> wtf rtfm
[13:29] <maradona> !list
[13:30] <vitas> k
[13:30] <v4lve> lol
[13:30] <vitas> i am leaving dispointed
[13:30] <v4lve> |0|
[13:31] <vitas> due to lack of support
[13:31] <v4lve> zzz
[13:31] <Onixs> should i also install transmission-cli or only transmission-daemon on ubuntu server?
[13:31] <vitas> cheers!!!
[13:31] <v4lve> w00t
[13:31] <v4lve> u haz w00t
[13:31] <Tm_T> v4lve: please behave
[13:32] <v4lve> oh now i am in my utmost behaviour bad tht will be
[13:33] <v4lve> ema
[13:34] <maradona> !list
[13:34] <v4lve> hi i want help for my bleeding heart plz
[13:34] <Myrtti> v4lve: do you have Ubuntu related question or problem you need help with?
[13:34] <v4lve> h
[13:35] <v4lve> ubuntu did tht
[13:35] <v4lve> ubuntu killed my life
[13:35] <Myrtti> v4lve: if you don't, please stop.
[13:35] <v4lve> may u help pls
[13:36] <BluesKaj> !ask | v4lve
[13:37] <tryy3> hi iam trying to change the time of my vps that got ubuntu, iam trying to run the command 'sudo date --set "2012-10-14 15:34"' but i just get the error 'date: cannot set date: Operation not permitted' please help me!
[13:37] <ikonia> tryy3: it's taking time from the host
[13:37] <tryy3> ikonia what you mean?
[13:38] <ikonia> tryy3: I mean the time is set by the physical host the virtual one is running on
[13:38] <tryy3> ikonia oh darn
[13:41] <vitimiti> o/
[13:43] <phorath> Hi. I have an ASUS g75-vw. Installed ubuntu from the 'try ubuntu before installing' option. Problem is just when Ubuntu is about to start, the screen goes all fuzzy and nothing can be seen except weird colors. HOWEVER if I load recovery mode, and click 'continue to boot normally' I can see everything just fine. I installed the latest Nvidia drivers like this, but the problem still persists. Any ideas what I sohuld do?
[13:44] <ikonia> phorath: I suspect the "try" ubuntu is falling back to the vesa drivers
[13:44] <ikonia> phorath: then your normal boot is trying to configure nvidia/3rd party xorg drivers which dont work on your card (at a guess)
[13:44] <sasuke> hi can anyone tell me how to use beep cmd
[13:45] <ikonia> sasuke: what's not clear ?
[13:45] <phorath> if I go to recovery mode and boot from there, the nvidia drivers i installed load just fine
[13:45] <ikonia> phorath: how do you know it's using nvidia at that point /
[13:46] <BoozeWooz> hi
[13:47] <sasuke> ikonia, i installed beep package a few mins back.  I dont know how to use that cmd.
[13:47] <ikonia> sasuke: man beep
[13:47] <BoozeWooz> someone here can help with gnumeric :o ?
[13:47] <ikonia> sasuke: surly looking at how to use something before installing it seems wise
[13:47] <kim_> fsck on a 70GB lvm partition takes hours and failed with "out of memory - killed". Any idea?
[13:47] <PN1> hi, hi, i've uploaded a new media player to Ubunto Software Center 2 day ago but my status is panding review. anyone knows what is it taking so long?
[13:48] <ikonia> kim_: what fiel system is on it ?
[13:48] <kim_> ikonia: ext4
[13:48] <ti89breh> hi i need help PLEASE. i moved to a new country and i have 0 friends and i am lonely as shit and i feel depressed.
[13:48] <BoozeWooz> ok///
[13:48] <ikonia> kim_: stupid quetion, but is there a problem on it to make you want to fsck it ?
[13:49] <sasuke> ikonia: thats where i am failing i know why we use use that but unable to use . i tried in man pages also. when i issue the cmd nothing happened. i didnt get beep sound
[13:49] <kim_> ikonia: Got some processes going into D, rebootet the server, and trying to do a fsck
[13:49] <kim_> Might have been some latency to SAN causing the state D
[13:49] <ikonia> kim_: going into D ?
[13:50] <ikonia> sasuke: what command are you using exactly ?
[13:50] <kim_> ikonia: uninterruptible sleep
[13:50] <ikonia> kim_: I'd be very concerned if your san had that much latency fsck was timing out
[13:50] <BoozeWooz> hi :( help?
[13:51] <kim_> ikonia: fsck is not timing out, but seems to be "find / |xargs rm" was the first process going into uninterruptible sleep
[13:51] <BluesKaj> BoozeWooz, just ask your question
[13:51] <ikonia> kim_: how many disks are making up the volume group that the logical volume is in
[13:51] <BoozeWooz> someone here can help with gnumeric :o ?
[13:51] <kim_> ikonia: two
[13:52] <ikonia> kim_: fsck is timing out if it's giving an out of memory error
[13:52] <kim_> ikonia: aha, i see
[13:52] <ikonia> kim_: are they both san based ?
[13:52] <kim_> ikonia: yes, same specification
[13:52] <kim_> no issues with other volums from the same isks
[13:52] <ikonia> kim_: ok - suggestion to help find out what's going on
[13:53] <ikonia> kim_: open a second xterm, and in the second xterm use iostat to monitor the two disks in question for 5 - 10 minutes,
[13:53] <ikonia> kim_: get an idea for what's going on
[13:53] <ikonia> kim_: then issue the fsck and see how they respond during the process
[13:55] <altin> hello all, I acidentally installed a package called: libnspr4
[13:55] <altin> it removed a lot of things
[13:55] <altin> and messed up my package manager
[13:55] <altin> I cant remove it and I cant even install new stuff
[13:56] <BoozeWooz> helps :S:S?? gnumeric pls??
[13:56] <ikonia> BoozeWooz: you're not asking a question
[13:56] <BoozeWooz> i want to create 2 bars inside a graph
[13:56] <BoozeWooz> but they keep overlapping??
[13:56] <ikonia> BoozeWooz: normally....if you want help, you ask a question that can be answered
[13:56] <ikonia> BoozeWooz: ok, so now wait and see if someone in the channel can answer that
[13:56] <BoozeWooz> oki i wait
[13:57] <altin> this is the package http://mirror.pnl.gov/ubuntu//pool/universe/n/nspr/libnspr4-0d_4.8.7-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[13:57] <ikonia> altin: what is the error
[13:57] <ikonia> altin: you've told us nothing about the actual problem/error yet
[13:58] <sasuke> ikonia, i am using this cmd "cp -rv PDFS/* ~/Documents/stuff/| beep -f 1000 -r 5 -s " . Can you tell me should we need to configure any file to make a beep sound after completed the process
[13:58] <ikonia> sasuke: get beep working first
[13:58] <ikonia> sasuke: then include it in other command
[13:58] <altin> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/38utch7f
[13:58] <altin> this is when I try to remove it
[13:59] <akis> hi all. my xubuntu 12.04 cannot play man system sounds. it cannot play orag reminder sound, it cannot play 'no subject' reminder sound on thunderbird. i have already enabled sound on settings manager/appearrence/setting and i installed 'canberra' but still refuse to play sounds. any suggestion or advise?
[13:59] <ikonia> altin: how did you install this ?
[13:59] <BoozeWooz> grr!!!! >< i go out from here
[13:59] <ikonia> BoozeWooz: bye
[13:59] <BoozeWooz> bei
[13:59] <altin> I downloaded the sorce form that link above
[13:59] <ikonia> altin and then what
[13:59] <altin> and installed it with dpkg -i
[13:59] <sasuke> ikonia, i didnt get it. my system sound is working fine & i use this cmd "sudo apt-get install beep" . After this i dont know what to do
[14:00] <ikonia> altin: why ? why did you not us the package managment tools to install it, eg: software center, synaptic, apt-get
[14:00] <ikonia> sasuke: READ the man page, and get it to beep
[14:00] <altin> http://pastebin.com/RrUNBgYQ
[14:00] <lf94> Hey, i used pm-hibernate last night, then this morning I powered up my machinie and it didnt resume from the hibernation point. Is there a way to recover the data that pm-hibernate stored, or to try again?
[14:00] <ikonia> altin: no, why did you download it and install it, why didn't you just do "sudo apt-get install libnspr4"
[14:00] <altin> ikonia: I was trying to install boxee, it is damn complicated with some dependencie
[14:00] <altin> now I f-ed it up
[14:01] <ikonia> altin: tone down the langauge, there is no need for it
[14:01] <altin> sorry ikonia :/
[14:01] <ikonia> altin: 1.) why did you not "sudo apt-get install libnspr4"
[14:01] <altin> no I didnt
[14:01] <ikonia> denta: no WHY
[14:01] <ikonia> oops
[14:01] <ikonia> altin: WHY did you not
[14:01] <altin> ikonia: I was looking at this forum topic http://forums.boxee.tv/showthread.php?t=50664&
[14:02] <altin> its in the bottom
[14:02] <ikonia> altin: what version of ubuntu are you running
[14:03] <kim_> ikonia: iostat seems to be normal
[14:03] <altin> ikonia: 12.04
[14:03] <ikonia> altin: right, so why are you following instructions for a 32bit chroot ubuntu 11.10
[14:03] <ikonia> kim_: well, that's one good thing at least
[14:04] <ikonia> !info libsnpr4-0d
[14:04] <altin> ikonia: bcs I didnt read it :S
[14:04] <altin> my bad !
[14:04] <ikonia> altin: then that's your fault then
[14:04] <ikonia> !info libsnpr4
[14:04] <altin> ikonia: can I fix this somehow ?
[14:05] <ikonia> altin: no wonder your packages are messed up
[14:05] <ikonia> altin: well looking at your pastes, it maybe simpler to re-install and be more careful
[14:05] <ikonia> and not follow random things off the internet that you've not even read
[14:05] <altin> ikonia: no any other way :S ??
[14:06] <ikonia> altin: yes, a fair ammount of effort, remove the package and all conflicting dependencies
[14:06] <ikonia> altin: the title of the pageg you are reading is "chrooted boxee on x86_64" how can you have followed this without reading it ???
[14:07] <sasuke> ikonia, when i am using "beep" cmd i didnt get beep sound. So can i use this "chmod 4755 /usr/bin/beep"
[14:07] <ikonia> sasuke: why are you doing that ?
[14:07] <h_boyz> Chiedo aiuto configurazione xorg su vecchio nb. Nessuna soluzione su canali convenzionali
[14:07] <bekks> sasuke: NO.
[14:07] <ikonia> sasuke: why are you chmodding the file ?
[14:07] <ikonia> sasuke: what reason do you think this is due to file permissions ???
[14:07] <bekks> sasuke: modprobe the pcspkr module.
[14:08] <sasuke> ikonia, i found that in man page. Its telling that when beep is not working try the above pasted cmd
[14:09] <ikonia> sasuke I don't see that in the man page ?
[14:09] <itai_michaelson> hi, i need to recover some files from a hard drive formatted as MS DOS, can anyone recommend a tool that would do that ?
[14:10] <ikonia> itai_michaelson: define "recover"
[14:10] <bekks> ikonia: In 12.04, its in the IOCTL WAKINESS section.
[14:10] <bekks> sasuke: Did you modprobe the module for your speaker?
[14:10] <ikonia> bekks: what is ?
[14:10] <sasuke> bekks,  yes
[14:11] <bekks> ikonia: the beep manpage in 12.04 states to run the chmod 4755 /usr/bin/beep command in case of problems.
[14:11] <ikonia> bekks: ah, I don't have a 12.04 box
[14:11] <itai_michaelson> ikonia, mmmm..the files are there , but some reason nautilus/explorer/finder don't see them, i think something is corrupted in the disk, i ran some recovery tool in osx that could see the file but to recover them it asked for money...
[14:11] <ikonia> itai_michaelson so you've mounted the disk ?
[14:12] <itai_michaelson> ikonia, yes
[14:12] <ikonia> itai_michaelson: how did you mount it ?
[14:12] <sasuke> bekks, i didnt get any output
[14:12] <sasuke>  modprobe pcspkr
[14:12] <sasuke> bekks,i use the above cmd
[14:12] <itai_michaelson> ikonia, in both linux and osx it comes out as empty
[14:12] <bekks> sasuke: Because modprobe does not produce output.
[14:12] <bekks> sasuke: Check wether that module is loaded.
[14:13] <ikonia> itai_michaelson: that's not what I asked
[14:13] <ikonia> itai_michaelson: how did you mount it
[14:13] <bekks> sasuke: And read that section from the manpage VERY carefully, it states some security caveats when running the command above.
[14:13] <sasuke> o
[14:13] <sasuke> ok
[14:13] <itai_michaelson> ikonia, nautlus just mounts it automatically when i plu it in
[14:13] <itai_michaelson> plug it in...
[14:14] <ikonia> itai_michaelson: ok, so what device is this disk ? sdb1 ?
[14:14] <sasuke> bekks, by the way how can we check the modules
[14:15] <itai_michaelson> ikonia, sdc1
[14:17] <ikonia> itai_michaelson: ok, so if you do "mkdir /tmp/dos-mount && sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /tmp/dos-mount" it should mount on /tmp/dos-mount, do you see anything in there ?
[14:17] <sasuke> bekks, i got this output "pcspkr                 12718  0 " when i use "lsmod | grep pcspkr" cmd
[14:18] <itai_michaelson> ikonia  no, /tmp/dos-mount is just an empty directory
[14:18] <ikonia> itai_michaelson: can you please confirm it's mounted by pastebinning the output of "mount" into a pastebin
[14:18] <lf94> Hey, I used pm-hibernate last night, then this morning I powered up my machinie and it didnt resume from the hibernation point. Is there a way to recover the data that pm-hibernate stored, or to try again?
[14:20] <itai_michaelson> ikonia, thanks for help, i need to go temporarily , hope to come back later, thanks again
[14:21] <sasuke> well can i get anyhelp for that beep thing
[14:22] <altin> ok ikonia I removed that using aptitude, but lots of other packages got removed too :S
[14:22] <altin> thnx for your help anyway !
[14:23] <eliano> Hi :-) . How can I chat on Facebook with Pidgin ?
[14:25] <eliano> Can I install Pidgin with "sudo apt-get install" command and have the support for FB chat ?
[14:25] <crizis> yes
[14:27] <eliano> What is an username of Facebook ? Is it my email ?
[14:27] <andrey_> yes
[14:27] <ikonia> eliano: contact facebook - that's nothing to do with ubuntu
[14:27] <crizis> i think it's supposed to be your facebook.com/<username>
[14:28] <ikonia> eliano: it's on the facebook.com site
[14:28] <akis> hi all. my xubuntu 12.04 cannot play man system sounds. it cannot play orag reminder sound, it cannot play 'no subject' reminder sound on thunderbird. i have already enabled sound on settings manager/appearrence/setting and i installed 'canberra' but still refuse to play sounds. any suggestion or advise?
[14:30] <eliano> for example : www.facebook.com/user . Should I insert only "user", not " www.facebook.com/user" ?
[14:30] <bekks> eliano: Ask facebook please.
[14:30] <diVV> How do I pre-set my HWaddr so when I boot each time so I don't have to change it?
[14:31] <diVV> Anyone know of the config file to edit?
[14:32] <eliano> Thanks ! I've just found the information !
[14:33] <eliano> What is a monolithic kernel ? I've seen the page of Wikipedia, but I don't understand.
[14:34] <ikonia> eliano: a kernel with no modules
[14:34] <IdleOne> eliano: That is not an Ubuntu specific question, you may want to try asking in ##linux
[14:38] <workstation-2> test
[14:38] <islandmonkey> workstation-2: Shush, and enjoy the lack of questions :)
[14:39] <islandmonkey> *touches wood before anything*
[14:39] <workstation-2> :)
[14:39] <workstation-2> first time in a while..
[14:40] <islandmonkey> workstation-2: For what?
[14:44] <irc4> I edited /etc/network/interfaces and added => hwaddress ether 11:22:33:44:55:66    hwaddress wifi 11:22:33:44:55:66     <= then rebooted it didn't change my mac addreses any idea what im messing up
[14:44] <islandmonkey> I knew it wouldn't last more than 10 minutes...*sigh* :P
[14:45] <bekks> irc4: Because that will not even touch the hw address.
[14:45] <irc4> oh
[14:45] <bekks> irc4: In case you want to modify it, use macchanger.
[14:46] <irc4> yeah but I want it to work on each reboot
[14:46] <irc4> -change the mac address
[14:46] <bekks> Then implement it in the rc.local
[14:46] <vedic> Is it possible to install virtual machine on a remote server using command line and then get VM GUI access to manage it remotely? I am familiar with VirtualBox. I hope it can server the purpose to run 24x7
[14:46] <irc4> " Re: MAC spoofing/rc.localYou can add options like that to the /etc/network/interfaces file. (I believe that's it, I'm not on my Ubuntu box right now)"
[14:47] <bekks> vedic: Yes.
[14:47] <bekks> vedic: VBoxManage has a complete chapter about the usage of VBoxManage.
[14:47] <vedic> bekks: I see.
[14:47] <bekks> vedic: www.virtualbox.org even :)
[14:48] <irc4> should I add the same command lines to the rc.local file?
[14:48] <irc4> or use a .sh file?
[14:49] <Niel> Hello
[14:49] <islandmonkey> Hi Niel
[14:49] <Niel> can anyone help me with my ubuntu server
[14:50] <islandmonkey> !ask | Niel
[14:50] <islandmonkey> Niel: Also you might get better luck in #ubuntu-server
[14:50] <Niel> ok
[15:05] <szymon_g> hi
[15:05] <lf94> Hey, I used pm-hibernate last night, then this morning I powered up my machinie and it didnt resume from the hibernation point. Is there a way to recover the data that pm-hibernate stored, or to try again?
[15:05] <szymon_g> how can i change the default fonts size (and font type) in libreoffice draw? I'm trying to edit a pdf file
[15:05] <KRomeleoN> canm i get help setting my secondary hd to auto mount?
[15:06] <KRomeleoN> I have this: nosuid,nodev,nofail,x-gvfs-show and it fails to auto mount on boot
[15:06] <theadmin> KRomeleoN: Can you give the whole line?
[15:06] <KRomeleoN> sure
[15:06] <KRomeleoN> LABEL=Storage /mnt/Storage auto nosuid,nodev,nofail,x-gvfs-show 0 0
[15:07] <KRomeleoN> its a standard hdd
[15:07] <theadmin> I don't know the "x-gvfs-show" option, you sure it works with "auto" fstype?
[15:08] <KRomeleoN> that flag is to "show in uder interface"
[15:08] <KRomeleoN> i think u are right
[15:08] <KRomeleoN> i must remove that i think
[15:08] <theadmin> KRomeleoN: Yeah try that... Ubuntu will show them anyway...
[15:09] <llutz> KRomeleoN: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-disk-utility/+bug/1011257
[15:10] <KRomeleoN> llutz, thanks im not crazy :)
[15:10] <llutz> !info util-linux
[15:11] <llutz> !info util-linux quantal
[15:12] <BoozeWooz> hei
[15:12] <BoozeWooz> its too fix!!
[15:12] <llutz> KRomeleoN: remove the option until util-linux will be updated. in13.04 maybe :)
[15:12] <KRomeleoN> :)
[15:16] <Jeff_Bezos> hi guys. I just wanted to thank Ubuntu for integrating amazon product search in unity
[15:16] <Jeff_Bezos> it's such a cool feature
[15:16] <bekks> It's the most annoying thing I've ever seen :)
[15:16] <gordonjcp> bekks: I like it
[15:16] <gordonjcp> I want to see more affiliate programme lenses
[15:16] <DJones> Jeff_Bezos: #ubuntu+1 for comments about unreleased versions of Ubuntu
[15:16] <Jeff_Bezos> oh right
[15:16] <Jeff_Bezos> will go there
[15:17] <Jeff_Bezos> thanks djones
[15:17] <theadmin> Hamsters. This is offtopic.
[15:17] <Jeff_Bezos> i just hope they include walmart too
[15:17] <Jeff_Bezos> the future is synergy
[15:17] <Tdaug> I downloaded and installed XChat for Ubuntu, and changed the background image to a "Don't Tread on me" wallpaper.  It looks awful.  I want to change it to plain black, but it won't change.  What did I do wrong?
[15:18] <gordonjcp> Tdaug: not sure, but have a look in something like ~/.xchat/
[15:18] <Jeff_Bezos> Tdaug, consider getting the new ubuntu beta and searching amazon for a xchat book
[15:18] <nOStahl> hi guys, I am getting a faild to install while copying files in the installer. on a 16 gig ssd
[15:18] <IdleOne> We appreciate the compliments. Please keep comments support related in this channel. There is #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss if you wish to chat about ubuntu
[15:18] <IdleOne> Jeff_Bezos: Now you're bordering on trolling.
[15:18] <Jeff_Bezos> i apologise. i meant no harm
[15:18] <Jeff_Bezos> i will talk in #ubuntu+1
[15:19] <gordonjcp> Tdaug: also, Don't Tread On Me was a really terrible song, one of the worst Metallica ever committed to tape
[15:19] <gordonjcp> Tdaug: therefore you deserve all you get
[15:19] <IdleOne> gordonjcp: !behelpful
[15:19] <alexis_> When trying to export an sql database using this command mysql -u username -p -h localhost database-name < database-backup.sql I am getting an error wrong password. The password is corect. Any ideas?
[15:19] <Tdaug> gordonjcp:  Not from the song.  from the flag :)
[15:19] <gordonjcp> Tdaug: flag? Sounds possibly !ot
[15:20] <gordonjcp> alexis_: is the username correct?
[15:20] <IdleOne> Tdaug: xchat help can be had in #xchat
[15:20] <nOStahl> ubuntu installer is canceling the install after 67 percent or so stating I/O error (smart data on my ssd is green )
[15:20] <alexis_> gordonjcp: yes. the username is root
[15:20] <Tdaug> IdleOne:  Thanks  :)
[15:20] <gordonjcp> alexis_: your line looks about right
[15:20] <gordonjcp> alexis_: so what happens if you just try to log into mysql as root with the password you have?
[15:21] <llutz> alexis_: except the <  for export...   try without "-h localhost"
[15:21] <gordonjcp> llutz: good catch, I missed that ;-)
[15:21] <alexis_> Gordonjcp: I am getting this error mysqldump: Got error: 1045: Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES) when trying to connect
[15:21] <alexis_> llutz: I am getting this error : mysqldump: Got error: 1045: Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) when trying to connect
[15:21] <gordonjcp> alexis_: what happens if you just say "mysql -u root -p" and put your password in?
[15:22] <alexis_> gordonjcp: ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[15:22] <gordonjcp> alexis_: so the password is wrong
[15:22] <gordonjcp> or you may not have a password set at all
[15:22] <alexis_> gordonjcp: The web hosting provider send me that password.
[15:23] <alexis_> twice
[15:23] <alexis_> they state that is correct...
[15:23] <Jeff_Bezos> is there any news on what other product integration ubuntu will offer
[15:23] <Jeff_Bezos> it would be nice if i could stay at home and make money on the Internet
[15:23] <gordonjcp> Jeff_Bezos: #ubuntu+1
[15:23] <Jeff_Bezos> using google adsense
[15:23] <Jeff_Bezos> nobody is responding in there, im afraid
[15:23] <Jeff_Bezos> :(
[15:23] <theadmin> Jeff_Bezos: This is offtopic. Try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic -- this channel is for support only.
[15:23] <Jeff_Bezos> orly
[15:23] <theadmin> yarly.
[15:23] <Jeff_Bezos> ok
[15:23] <gordonjcp> alexis_: if you can't log into it with mysql -u root -p and then your password at the prompt, then they haven't set it up right
[15:24] <puddle> hi, does anyone know a video palyer for linux/ubuntu that has predefined eq presets and rememebrs last palyed position when you open a file? vlc has predefined eq presets but doesnt have the other function while smplayer has no predefined eq sets but remembers the last played position kinda frustrating
[15:24] <gordonjcp> alexis_: or they're not giving you the right credentials
[15:24] <alexis_> gordonjcp: honestly there are web hosting providers selling shit servers
[15:25] <alexis_> I am tired with them.
[15:25] <gordonjcp> alexis_: try with out -p
[15:25] <alexis_> gordonjcp: ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[15:25] <gordonjcp> hm, okay
[15:25] <theadmin> puddle: Can't you just look at the presets VLC provides and make such in SMplayer? There can't be more than like, 10
[15:25] <gordonjcp> sounds like you'll need to sort it out with your hosting provider
[15:26] <bekks> alexis_: Whats the exact cmd line you are issueing?
[15:26] <puddle> theadmin, problem is that both palyer us different unit measures
[15:26] <puddle> hard to do it that way -.-
[15:26] <alexis_> gordonjcp: anyway. is the hosting providers. i have two servers from them which are both miscofigured. When I ask for help they say we cant fix it we need to rebuild the container.
[15:26] <theadmin> puddle: Oh... I see
[15:26] <puddle> and somehow mplayer eq sounds weird
[15:26] <puddle> but that might be because i couldnt set it up correctly
[15:27] <gordonjcp> alexis_: o_O
[15:27] <theadmin> puddle: You might have some luck with DeadbeeF (my friends use that, I know it has the save-position thing, dunno about presets but should)
[15:27] <bekks> alexis_: Whats the exact cmd line you are issueing?
[15:27] <puddle> alexis_, btw i doubt that the hosting provider gave uroot access to the mysql server
[15:27] <puddle> i suspect u have to use ur username and the password they gave you
[15:27] <rexwin_> do we have a room for cpanel issues?
[15:27] <bekks> puddle: To the mysql instance running in his vps instance? Sure they do.
[15:27] <puddle> theadmin, ty gona check it out
[15:28] <puddle> bekks, did not read back that far i mean to see he has vps, thought its a shared hosting.P
[15:28] <puddle> my bad
[15:28] <alexis_> puddle: they state that I have root access to the mysql server.
[15:28] <alexis_> Anyway I am moving to rackspace. I hope they have better service.
[15:28] <bekks> alexis_: Ok, so you dont want to answer. Good luck then.
[15:29] <puddle> alexis_, if you have a vps with your ownm ysql instance then you can access it by root yup, or should be able to
[15:31] <michealPW> I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 and it seems like no matter what player I used, while I'm watching a Full Screen movie (especially through a web browser) my screensaver activates?
[15:31] <michealPW> Any idea?
[15:31] <michealPW> Ot
[15:31] <theadmin> michealPW: Disable the screensaver?
[15:31] <michealPW> theadmin: Everytime I want to watch a video I have to disable the screensaver/monitor power saving settings?
[15:31] <yekoms> don't screen savers work by catching mouse movements or keys pressed?
[15:31] <michealPW> That hardly seems intuitive :\
[15:32] <Jeff_Bezos> is it true that ubuntu will soon be integrated with alibaba.com as well
[15:32] <bekks> michealPW: Why dont you just leave it disabled?
[15:32] <michealPW> yekoms: They shouldn't activate if a full screen app is running, normally.
[15:32] <Jeff_Bezos> makes sense for chinese bulk buyers
[15:32] <Jeff_Bezos> of soap and stuff
[15:32] <bekks> Jeff_Bezos: Stop the offtopic finally.
[15:32] <Jeff_Bezos> my ban sense is tingling
[15:32] <Jeff_Bezos> but it could be my kindle fire
[15:32] <Jeff_Bezos> not sure
[15:32] <michealPW> bekks: Aren't you supposed to use Screensavers for these LCDs? :\
[15:33] <michealPW> Plus isn't it a big waste of power?
[15:33] <bekks> michealPW: No. Why? I am not using screensavers at all.
[15:33] <yekoms> the purpose of screensavers are to look pretty and prevent burnins.
[15:33] <bekks> michealPW: When I am leaving my computer, I am suspending it.
[15:33] <michealPW> Why do screen-savers exist on everysingle operating system available, then, I wonder? Why do they all seem to disable themselves quietly while full screen apps are running except for Ubuntu?
[15:34] <bekks> yekoms: burnins? do you REALLY use a CRT in a laptop nowadays?
[15:34] <tornado___1> Hi, i'm asking this question through webchat, I can't connect through xchat. I get a connection timed out error. what could be the problem?
[15:34] <yekoms> michealPW, look in your video software for a bypass "screensaver" in there.
[15:34] <yekoms> bekks, it happens to LCDs and plasmas too myfriend.
[15:34] <gordonjcp> Jeff_Bezos: where do I know your username from?
[15:34] <bekks> yekoms: I never heard of things like that for the last 15 years.
[15:35] <yekoms> i for a 42" LCD Tv with the ubuntu logo burnt into the center of it.
[15:35] <yekoms> got*
[15:35] <gordonjcp> yekoms: heh, ooops
[15:35] <gordonjcp> plasmas get burnin, LCDs not so much
[15:35] <yekoms> gordonjcp, here. we spoke about these lame hax0rs lol.
[15:35] <Jeff_Bezos> gordonjcp, not sure, mate
[15:35] <Jeff_Bezos> why not search from the amazon lens and see
[15:35] <Jeff_Bezos> there may be a book on it
[15:35] <yekoms> gordonjcp, all of them do it, LCDs are not as bad as plasmas tho, then again ive only owned one plasma
[15:36] <michealPW> bekks: Maybe because every modern operating system ships with a solution to the problem? Screen Savers!
[15:36] <michealPW> LOL
[15:36] <yekoms> they also ship a help manual too.. michealPW
[15:36] <bekks> michealPW: To which problem? Suspending saves even more power than a screensaver. Green IT, you know?
[15:37] <Jeff_Bezos> and if you dont have the manual you can always buy it
[15:37] <Jeff_Bezos> from your local bookstore
[15:37] <Jeff_Bezos> or, from the next release of ubuntu, right from the dashboard!
[15:37] <michealPW> As per why you've never seen it happen in the past 15 years... Everybody's aware of the problem and prevents it :P
[15:37] <Jeff_Bezos> what a wonderful world we live in
[15:37] <yekoms> why buy a book, when you can just get a pdf or google.
[15:37] <michealPW> I like pdf :)
[15:37] <michealPW> epub's rule!
[15:37] <michealPW> ehehe
[15:37] <Jeff_Bezos> as long as it's from the kindle store
[15:37] <Jeff_Bezos> but then you'd need a mobi
[15:37] <bekks> michealPW: Well, just call me lucky to not mess with burnins then.
[15:37] <yekoms> these retarded IRC trolls.
[15:38] <Jeff_Bezos> which ones
[15:38] <Jeff_Bezos> i for one welcome a world where i can buy starbucks from the command line
[15:38] <Jeff_Bezos> sudo apt-get install mocha-grande
[15:39] <gordonjcp> Jeff_Bezos: you're in another channel I'm in as jacksparr but I can't think which one
[15:39] <gordonjcp> Jeff_Bezos: #archlinux?
[15:39] <bekks> Ok. Setting ignore to not read that troll anymore.
[15:39] <Meccano> Hi everyone
[15:39] <theadmin> gordonjcp: /whois will tell you.
[15:39] <Jeff_Bezos> gordonjcp, no, #amazon
[15:39] <Guest334> if i upgraded to version 12.10 will i be able to upgrade to full release or will i have to reinstall?
[15:39] <bekks> Guest334: The fist.
[15:39] <bekks> *first
[15:39] <theadmin> Guest334: You'll just have to upgrade packages. Also, 12.10 discussion and support in #ubuntu+1
[15:40] <michealPW> Maybe I can try installing XScreenSaver and removing this garbage  screensaver that comes with Ubuntu? :\
[15:40] <Jeff_Bezos> the best thing about 12.10 is the amazon support
[15:40] <Jeff_Bezos> tbh
[15:40] <BoozeWooz> butu
[15:40] <ntwrk_keith> Hello
[15:40] <gordonjcp> michealPW: you could just try disabling the screensaver
[15:40] <michealPW> I think it's pretty retarded that they're embedding adds in the search results, personally, but yea :P
[15:40] <Meccano> bye everyone
[15:40] <bekks> gordonjcp: He's afraid of burnins.
[15:40] <Jeff_Bezos> it's not retatded, it's synergy
[15:41] <Jeff_Bezos> learn the vocab, michaelPW
[15:41] <Jeff_Bezos> it's a brave new world
[15:41] <michealPW> Synergy? No, it's shameless ads sunk into my OS.
[15:41] <ntwrk_keith> Looking for some help with Ubuntu CUPS... I can print to the server over my LAN using Word or sending test pages but I can't print from certain programs like notepad or foxit pdf reader
[15:41] <gordonjcp> michealPW: they're not embedding ads in the search results
[15:41] <michealPW> LOL
[15:41] <Jeff_Bezos> noway bro
[15:41] <Jeff_Bezos> dont talk like that
[15:41] <michealPW> Will I get booted from #ubuntu for expressing my opinion, now? :P
[15:41] <Jeff_Bezos> It makes perfect sense to integrate Amazon search results in the Dash, because the Home Lens of the Dash should let you find *anything* anywhere.
[15:42] <Jeff_Bezos> hard to argue with that logic, no?
[15:42] <gordonjcp> michealPW: no, but Jeff_Bezos might
[15:42] <gordonjcp> michealPW: however, it's in 12.10 which is #ubuntu+1
[15:42] <michealPW> Shouldn't it just find your "home" stuff, Jeff_Bezos? I didn't select the "Home + Amazon Books" lens, did I? :)
[15:42] <Jeff_Bezos> i make no claims for free speech
[15:42] <gordonjcp> michealPW: or if you feel inclined, #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:42] <Jeff_Bezos> no no
[15:42] <Jeff_Bezos> but your home is now amazon.com
[15:42] <Purian23> Hey guys, anyway to take the left docks bar in 12.04 and move it to the bottom of the screen vs the left?
[15:42] <gordonjcp> michealPW: by default Unity uses *all* the lenses
[15:43] <theadmin> Purian23: Try using MyUnity (it's in the repos). AFAIR it has such a setting.
[15:43] <Jeff_Bezos> the OED 2014 will accept 'lenses' as a synonym for 'ad channels'
[15:43] <Jeff_Bezos> dw
[15:43] <llutz> !ot | Jeff_Bezos stop it please
[15:43] <michealPW> I'm not going to argue with a fanboi. You've got my opinion. Sinking adds directly into Ubuntu is going to hurt the user adoption, in my opinion. It's shameless and bad taste.
[15:44] <Jeff_Bezos> but ubuntu is the people's distro, for the people, by the people, and now the people have demanded amazon product synergy
[15:44] <gordonjcp> michealPW: oh well, enjoy paying for Ubuntu then
[15:44] <michealPW> This is not encouraging. I find a lot of posts on Google by people experiencing the exact same behavior as I am.
[15:44] <gordonjcp> michealPW: what, the screensaver kicking in?  Just disable it
[15:44] <Purian23> Thank you theadmin ... I am pretty new to linux,. andy pointers on the location or searching the repos? I have heard of Unity, just not familar with how to use it
[15:44] <michealPW> I guess I could just disable it. That's not correcting the problem that, that's a brutish workaround :\
[15:45] <theadmin> Purian23: The "newbie" way is to open the Ubuntu Software Center and use the search.
[15:45] <michealPW> I wanted to fix the problem hehe
[15:45] <gordonjcp> screensavers are silly
[15:45] <theadmin> Purian23: My way is "sudo apt-get install myunity"
[15:45] <Purian23> haha thank you theadmin I shall try that ;)
[15:45] <Jeff_Bezos> This new Amazon lens will help users find what they want when they want and allow them to access a wider variety of information without ever having to leave the comfort of their keyboards and in the long run strengthen the Ubuntu brand name while helping solidify Linux as _the_ operating system in the year of Desktop Linux, the year it will finally surpass all other OSes in features by having this amazing synergification and rebranding metamorphosis
[15:45] <Jeff_Bezos>  with book and product provider Amazon.com
[15:45] <Purian23> Ohhh. .. ok, I can do that too theadmin ... i'm good at directions :)
[15:45] <gordonjcp> !ops | Jeff_Bezos
[15:45] <llutz> !ops | Jeff_Bezos keeps spamming/OT
[15:45] <Jeff_Bezos> omg
[15:46] <Jeff_Bezos> :(
[15:46] <gordonjcp> that was just getting boring
[15:46] <Tdaug> How can I disable my laptop's Synoptic TouchPad in Ubuntu?
[15:46] <gordonjcp> Tdaug: there's a command-line tool synclient that less you fiddle about with all kinds of settings
[15:47] <theadmin> Tdaug: If you have a hardware switch, just use that. If not, I think there is a checkbox in mouse settings.
[15:47] <Fuchs> Tdaug: you can use synclient or any graphical frontend you want
[15:47] <Fuchs> synclient TouchpadOff=1;   << this should turn it off, if the hotkey doesn't already work, you can bind that to a key
[15:49]  * Tdaug is away: I'm busy
[15:49] <BoozeWooz> bosi
[15:49] <michealPW> Hrmm...
[15:50]  * Tdaug is back (gone 00:00:53)
[15:50] <michealPW> Does anybody know.. On Ubuntu 12.04, is the "screen saver" functionality provided by the program that provides the power-management functionality that shuts off the monitor?
[15:50] <michealPW> Maybe it's not the screen saver but the power-management that's not caring if full screen apps are on and shuts off teh monnitor?
[15:50] <michealPW> :\
[15:50] <deadmund> michealPW: It's an app called gnome-screen-saver  which handles both (I believe)
[15:50] <deadmund> gnome-screensaver*
[15:50] <michealPW> Ah okay, thank you
[15:50] <vedic> Which virtualization is free for commercial use and easy to setup and is reliable & secure? I have used virtualbox but as I read, it allows free personal use but not commercial use
[15:51] <yekoms> OpenVZ vedic
[15:51] <yekoms> or XEN
[15:51] <bekks> vedic: KVM is free, but doesnt fullfil the other requirements. Same aaplies for OpenVZ and especially for XEN.
[15:51]  * Tdaug is away: I'm busy
[15:52] <yekoms> OpenVZ is native on ubuntu 8.04 and works very well on 11.10 and 10.04
[15:52] <vedic> bekks: OpenVZ when compared to virtualbox?
[15:52] <bekks> yekoms: And nowadays, 12.04 is current.
[15:52] <yekoms> Wont KVM support both linux/unix containers?
[15:52] <bekks> vedic: Comparing apples and bananas.
[15:52] <yekoms> bekks, but has some issues with OpenVZ.
[15:52] <theadmin> vedic: Virtualbox is free for any kind of use, as long as you don't use the Oracle's additions (those have a separate license which is only personal)
[15:53] <theadmin> vedic: As long as you don't need anything provided by those addons, you're fine.
[15:54] <vedic> theadmin: I see
[15:54] <yeats> vedic: make sure you're using virtualbox-ose
[15:54] <vedic> theadmin: at the time of installation, it asks to agree on T&C which says Personal Use
[15:54] <theadmin> vedic: Which version are you using...?
[15:55] <theadmin> yeats: No such thing anymore (Virtualbox-ose is now the main edition of Virtualbox, extra non-free stuff is provided in a plugin pack)
[15:55] <vedic> theadmin: I am just reading the documentation and it said there to agree or exit
[15:56]  * Tdaug is back (gone 00:04:50)
[15:56] <yeats> !away | Tdaug
[15:57] <IdleOne> Tdaug: please don't use loud away messages, use /away if necessary
[15:57] <IdleOne> err, like the bot said
[15:58] <scotty^> Can someone mark bug 1066147 as Wont Fix?
[15:58] <Tdaug> I tried "xinput list", found my touchpad's ID to be 11, did xinput set-prop 11 "Device Enabled" 0, and nothing happened.  Touchpad still works.
[15:58] <bekks> scotty^: And who said "wont fix"?
[15:59] <scotty^> bekks:  I was trying to ask two questions in one.
[15:59] <scotty^> Should it be marked as wont fix?
[15:59] <scotty^> If so, can someone do it, as I don't have the privelages?
[16:03] <IdleOne> scotty^: try #ubuntu-bugs
[16:04] <mohsen> hello all
[16:05] <Purian23> Anyone able to get my unity to move there dock from the left to the bottom of screen?
[16:05] <Purian23> Or any other ways to try it
[16:06] <IdleOne> try gnome-tweak-tool
[16:06] <adry27> ciao
[16:06] <Purian23> Will try IdleOne thank you!
[16:06] <adry27> !list
[16:06] <michealPW> Alright, thanks for the information everybody (Sorry if I got on people's nerves hehe I know I'm stubborn)
[16:06] <michealPW> I'm going to do some more testing before I do anything.
[16:07] <adry27> !list
[16:07] <michealPW> Going to see if I can't fiddle with settings to get Plasma-Desktop' screensaver to work properly and compare my results to GNOME 3 and Unity (I installed both on Ubuntu 12.04)
[16:08] <watta> Des français ici ?
[16:08] <Leebanen> oui
[16:09] <llutz> !fr
[16:09] <Leebanen> je sais merci
[16:09] <watta> Thx
[16:10] <c--> got a problem installing gnome on linux mint (that's almost ubuntu): unpacking gdm ... dpkg error processing ...gdm...deb...trying to overwrite usr share pixmaps nobody png which is also in package mdm ... subprocess was killed by signal borken pipe
[16:11] <bekks> c--: Mint is not supported in here.
[16:11] <bekks> !mint | c--
[16:11] <bazhang> !mintsupport > c--
[16:12] <c--> ok
[16:13] <scotty^> Idleone:  Thanks.
[16:14] <deb> hi guys, i cannot open the add-ons firefox page, or the add-ons manager, i run firefox 15 on ubuntu 10.04, could anybody help? google wasn't helpful, i tried disabling ipv6, removing .mozilla from /home i even tried uninstall and re-install but nothing, still i can't. ideas please? im pretty desperate...
[16:16] <scotty^> deb: Try updating to Firefox 16.01 first.
[16:17] <deb> scotty^, i can't i run ubuntu 10.04
[16:17] <graingert> deb: is 10.04 supported?
[16:17] <deb> it is an LTS
[16:17] <graingert> deb: cack
[16:18] <scotty^> deb:  Firefox 16.01 is in the 10.04 archives - I just checked.
[16:18] <nadav> Is it possible to set a proxy server on ubuntu? so people can connect to my server and browse the internet "through" me?
[16:18] <graingert> nadav: yes
[16:18] <deb> scotty^, not in mine... how do i do?
[16:18] <scotty^> See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox
[16:19] <scotty^> If you have turned off updates then you could have all sorts of problems.
[16:19] <puddle> anyone using a video player that has predefined equalizer presets and remember last played position aswell? -.-
[16:19] <scotty^> Otherwise just run Update Manager to get Firefox 16.
[16:19] <scotty^> 01
[16:19] <scotty^> 16.01
[16:20] <fincer> can you open add-ons page at all or do you get any error popup? Running firefox through terminal may give some useful information about your problem. Also, remember to clear your personal firefox settings, subfolder .mozilla in your home folder.
[16:20] <MMlosh> histo3, I expected do-release-upgrade -d to give me a new version already, but no luck.. Why is that?
[16:20] <MMlosh> what??  tab fail, sorry...  it was supposed to be "Hi!"
[16:20] <deb> scotty^, i did no update to 16 appears
[16:21] <deb> fincer, been there, done that...
[16:21] <fincer> yup
[16:21] <fjf> how to setup epos on ubuntu
[16:22] <V13Axel0> So I have an odd issue. I have two monitors on an ATI Radeon X800, and they're working fine with the radeon drivers and MergedFB. However, when I start Compiz, I get this odd glitch with my desktop, part of it shows as transparent. Anyone had this problem before? Attachment: http://imgur.com/jIAgu
[16:23] <deb> scotty^, i did sudo apt-get purge firefox && sudo apt.get install firefox it installs again the 15.01...
[16:23] <scotty^> deb:  Check your mirror settings.
[16:24] <deb> scotty^, which means?
[16:25] <puddle> anyone using a video player that has predefined equalizer presets and remembers last played position aswell?
[16:25] <bazhang> puddle, which have you tried so far
[16:26] <puddle> mplayer, umplayer, vlc media player, banshee, xine, kaffeine, default ubuntu movie palyer
[16:27] <puddle> smplayer
[16:27] <puddle> smaplyer would be nice but no eq presets
[16:27] <scotty^> deb:  If you still only see Firefox 15, open the Settings>Repositories menu item and look at the mirror settings and their locations.
[16:27] <bazhang> if vlc and mplayer dont have all those features, then you'll have to compromise, especially on the "last played" feature puddle
[16:27] <puddle> yeah thats what I am afraid of
[16:28] <pluto> join #ubuntu-server
[16:28] <V13Axel0> deb, Try the command 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade'
[16:28] <puddle> i just dont get it why mplayer doesnt have at least an option to save/import/export eq presets
[16:29] <bazhang> puddle, perhaps try in the mplayer channel
[16:29] <Re-L> hi i have problem building glib-networking : gtlscertificate-gnutls.h:61:72: error: expected declaration specifiers or '...' before 'gnutls_retr2_st'  /why?
[16:29] <puddle> hm good idea
[16:29] <deb> scotty^, gotta restart after the update, brb
[16:29] <k1l_> !rootirc > fjf
[16:31] <MMlosh> How can I get my Precise upgrade to Quantal beta?  do-release-upgrade -d doesn't "find it"
[16:31] <cri> hi
[16:31] <alkamid> Hello. I have a problem with my DVD drive. I have just inserted a blank CD - Ubuntu 12.04 detected it and mounted it automatically. The same with a burnt WinXp CD. Then I inserted two audio CDs and my system seems to ignore them. I can hear some initial sounds (the drive trying to read the disks), but other reaction
[16:31] <k1l_> MMlosh: change the release prompt from lts to normal
[16:31] <cri> does anyone know on how to boot OS/2 from Linux?
[16:31] <alkamid> this is a laptop DVD drive (Lenovo T61)
[16:31] <MMlosh> k1l_, whas is release prompt?
[16:32] <bazhang> cri vbox perhaps
[16:32] <bazhang> cri try asking in #vbox
[16:32] <MMlosh> k1l_, I don'ŧ see any such parameter there
[16:32] <cri> bazhang: no I have installed it on my hard drive in /dev/sda2
[16:32] <deb> scotty^, now im running firefox 16.01 still the add-on page won't load
[16:32] <bazhang> deb give us the url
[16:33] <chrono4ever> Hello
[16:33] <cri> bazhang: thanks for the tip; have just asked there
[16:33] <deb> https://add-ons.mozilla.org/
[16:33] <Re-L> I have a problem building glib-networking gtlscertificate-gnutls.h:61:72: error: expected declaration specifiers or '...' before 'gnutls_retr2_st'
[16:33] <chrono4ever> I have an issue with firefox, since an update. Can anyone help?
[16:34] <deb> bazhang, https://add-ons.mozilla.org/
[16:34] <alien2050> deb: you should try checking if it's your parameters that are at fault.... try and temporarily rename your ~/.mozilla to ~/.mozilla.bak and start firefox
[16:34] <bazhang> deb thats not the correct url
[16:34] <deb> alien2050, been there, done that, even purged it and re-installed it...
[16:34] <deb> bazhang, what do u mean then?
[16:34] <MMlosh> k1l_, thanks, that info you provided was enough for finding /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[16:34] <bazhang> deb I'll find it for you, just a moment
[16:35] <deb> bazhang, https://addons.mozilla.org/
[16:35] <deb> sorry it was without the score
[16:35] <bazhang> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/   deb
[16:35] <libertas> hi, I was looking for wpa_supplicant.conf in ubuntu 12.04, but can't find it. Would like to see config used by ubuntu to connect to certain network. How can I do it?
[16:36] <deb> bazhang, ok
[16:36] <alkamid> Hello. I have a problem with my DVD drive. I have just inserted a blank CD - Ubuntu 12.04 detected it and mounted it automatically. The same with a burnt WinXp CD. Then I inserted two audio CDs and my system seems to ignore them. I can hear some initial sounds (the drive trying to read the disks), but no other reaction. This is a built-in DVD drive in Lenovo T61 laptop
[16:36] <Re-L> While building glib--networking I get following error: gtlscertificate-gnutls.h:61:72: error: expected declaration specifiers or '...' before 'gnutls_retr2_st' /why?
[16:36] <deb> bazhang, then? what do we do?
[16:37] <bazhang> deb which specific add on did you want. that page works fine
[16:37] <cri> libertas: google an existing wpa_supplicant.conf; the distro wonn`t mind
[16:37] <bazhang> libertas, wpasupplicant is the package name
[16:38] <cri> libertas: I thought it was already installed ...
[16:38] <Re-L> While building glib--networking I get following error: gtlscertificate-gnutls.h:61:72: error: expected declaration specifiers or '...' before 'gnutls_retr2_st' /why?
[16:38] <libertas> but this is for a specific network, would like to view how ubuntu set up all the parameters, encryption, etc
[16:38] <afidegnum_> hi all, I just finished configured my nginx aside my apache2, how do I know if my nginx is working ?
[16:38] <deb> bazhang, i know it works fine, it doesnt work for me and i dont understand why, since it works on my other pc, with windows...
[16:39] <metalball> hey everyone, got a question about ubuntu-server and VirtualBox
[16:39] <deb> bazhang, anyway, i need no-script and silverlight or moonlight, i'm not sure...
[16:39] <benedict> !vlc
[16:39] <bazhang> deb silverlight/moonlight is gone
[16:40] <chrono4ever> metalball: I'm pretty inexperienced, but what's your question?
[16:40] <libertas> bazhang: yes, but normally there's a wpa_supplicant.conf file, but don't konw how this is dealt in ubuntu
[16:40] <deb> bazhang, is it? what can i use then?
[16:40] <metalball> chrono4ever: after cloning a VM with installed ubuntu-server, the distro hangs on boot with network messages: "Waiting for network configuration..." and then "Waiting for 60 seconds more..."
[16:40] <bazhang> deb I'll get the noscript url for you
[16:41] <Tdaug> How can I permanently change my default shell
[16:41] <bazhang> deb what did you need silverlight/moonlight for
[16:41] <metalball> chrono4ever: after that it logs in without eth0
[16:41] <metalball> chrono4ever: only lo interface
[16:41] <Tdaug> 'I'm a little sick of purple :/
[16:41] <deb> bazhang, to watch some videos online it seemed to be the only way...
[16:42] <bazhang> deb are you talking about netflix on Linux?
[16:42] <deb> bazhang, either you have windows installed as an os or moonlight/silverlight on ubuntu
[16:42] <metalball> chrono4ever: when commenting eth0 lines from /etc/network/interfaces, distro boots faster, but still without eth0
[16:43] <Myrtti> Tdaug: you mean the terminal shell?
[16:43] <benedict> hi, how can i get vlc to play youtube videos?
[16:43] <Tdaug> Myrtti:  Yes.
[16:43] <chrono4ever> metalball: sorry, that's probably too advanced for me to answer.
[16:44] <metalball> chrono4ever: I guess that happens because the MAC of the ethernet device changes, but I have no idea how to "sync" the distro with the new ethernet
[16:44] <Lockscreen> Unity 2d cant do split pane?
[16:44] <Myrtti> Tdaug: chsh, but I'm not sure what you mean by purple?
[16:44] <metalball> chrono4ever: mmm, is there a ubuntu-server IRC channel?
[16:44] <chrono4ever> metallball: I have no idea. Today is my first day here.
[16:44] <Myrtti> metalball: yes.
[16:45] <deb> bazhang, ???
[16:45] <Tdaug> Myrtti:  The default terminal is purple background, white foreground (text) on my machine.
[16:45] <bazhang> deb did you mean netflix on ubuntu
[16:45] <deb> bazhang, to watch some videos online it seemed to be the only way...
[16:46] <Myrtti> Tdaug: Edit > Profiles...
[16:46] <deb> bazhang, it did open the page now, but with no graphic, just text and links
[16:46] <yekoms> i dont see how people are having trouble with netflix, it worked fine and i didnt change/modify anything
[16:47] <benedict> hi, i am looking for the youtube parse lua script of vlc... where can i find it in ubnutu 12.04? i want to add this patch so taht vlc can use youtube again.
[16:47] <benedict> https://gist.github.com/3729932
[16:47] <metalball> 10nx :)
[16:47] <Lockscreen> Hey guys, I swiched to unity2d but I cant do split pane. Its a limitation?
[16:48] <deb> bazhang, and it's taking ages....
[16:48] <BluesKaj> yekoms, pls explain , you;'re the firswt person I've heard sya that netflix runs in linux
[16:48] <bobo37773> Lockscreen: Split pane in what? Your file manager (nautilus)?
[16:48] <Tdaug> Myrtti:  I did "chsh", and it's asking me to put in a new value.  As in a number value?  Where can I find the values for different colors?
[16:49]  * BluesKaj cleans KB
[16:49] <Myrtti> Tdaug: nevermind, you don't actually want to change the shell, you want to change the colours of your terminal emulator, unless you're in TTY, in which case I don't know how to help you
[16:49] <V13Axel0> yekoms, Netflix uses DRM, something Novell Moonlight cannot use on Linux quite yet, and thus, it doesn't work on Linux. Explain your reasoning/method?
[16:49] <simplew> is it possible to have a video chat in Empathy using a MSN account?
[16:49] <bobo37773> Tdaug: You are trying to use chsh just to change terminal colors??
[16:50] <Tdaug> Myrtti:  What is TTY?
[16:50] <V13Axel0> !tty | Tdaug
[16:50] <Myrtti> Tdaug: if you don't have X running at all, no graphical user interface
[16:50] <Myrtti> Tdaug: or if you've moved to them from the graphical user interface
[16:51] <V13Axel0> Tdaug, nevermind, thought it would explain. TTY terminals are fullscreen command-line interfaces.
[16:51] <Rizon> Translation []-[] [V13Axel0] Tdaug, no importa, pensé que iba a explicar.
[16:51] <bobo37773> Tdaug: chsh is NOT for changing terminal colors. It is for changing your shell. Like from bash to zsh for example
[16:51] <Rizon> Translation []-[] [bobo37773] Tdaug: chsh no es para cambiar los colores de los terminales.
[16:51] <Myrtti> Rizon: turn that off.
[16:51] <Rizon> Translation []-[] [Myrtti] Rizon: apaga eso.
[16:52] <simplew> is it possible to have a video chat in Empathy using a MSN account???
[16:52] <Myrtti> Rizon: when you want to be able to talk again, pm me or join #ubuntu-ops.
[16:53] <yekoms> V13Axel0, i just load firefox, and goto netflix.com and hit play and max my screen and it plays. and im using ubuntu 12.04
[16:54] <p0rk> When I make changes to fstab, how do I push out those changes?
[16:54] <bobo37773> p0rk: fstab is called by mount
[16:54] <bobo37773> p0rk: you can either reboot or just "mount -a"(I think)
[16:55] <yekoms> p0rk, issue 'mount -a' i believe that does a remount
[16:55] <p0rk> That's it
[16:55] <p0rk> mount -a
[16:55] <p0rk> I couldn't remember, thank you guys
[16:55] <V13Axel0> yekoms, When I do that, I get an error that says you'll need a computer that has Windows, Mac, or Chrome OS.
[16:56] <yekoms> so try Chromium.
[16:57] <yekoms> it supports flash playback
[16:57] <chrono4ever> Alrigth, I solved my problem by just resetting firefox's preferences to their initial state
[16:57] <yekoms> but i use firefox just fine
[16:57] <ikonia> yekoms: could please take a screen shot of netflix running on ubuntu please.
[16:57] <V13Axel0> Netflix doesn't use Flash, it uses Microsoft Silverlight/Novell Moonlight.
[16:59] <ikonia> yekoms: could please take a screen shot of netflix running on ubuntu please.
[17:00] <Lockscreen> bobo37773: no, not in nautilus, in the window manager itself?
[17:00] <bobo37773> Lockscreen: Oh okay. I am not sure then what you mean (I use openbox :P).
[17:01] <Tdaug> I don't have "Edit>Preferences" on my terminal.  it appears to be a minimalist window, just a title bar and the actual terminal..
[17:04] <V13Axel0> yekoms, I'm with ikonia, show us a screenshot, or it didn't happen.
[17:04] <Myrtti> Tdaug: hover your mouse on the title bar
[17:05] <hodlum> hey guys
[17:05] <bobo37773> hodlum: hey
[17:06] <hodlum> anyone know a theme manager for kubuntu?
[17:06] <hodlum> bobo37773, hey mate
[17:06] <bobo37773> hodlum: Doesn't one come built into kde? What kind of themes (qt,gtk2,gtk3,etc..)?
[17:07] <hodlum> bobo37773, there is something to control the themes via system settings, i was hoping for another alround program (something a little easier to use tho :P)
[17:08] <hodlum> bobo37773, I am having trouble applying themes i have to download :(
[17:08] <bobo37773> hodlum: Oh. Okay. What is the application in question you are trying to theme (trying to find out if it is qt or gtk)?
[17:08] <n1> hi. how to check if the vodafone dongle is n storage or network mode on ubuntu?
[17:09] <hodlum> bobo37773, Thanks for helping, its mainly the desktop and the window appearances i am trying to theme
[17:09] <n1> saki3g reports an error while trying to instal it
[17:10] <bobo37773> hodlum: For gtk2 themes I use "lxappearance". For gtk3 it's gnome-tweak-tool probably. For qt the built in kde thing I'm sure.
[17:10] <nadav> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/squid.html
[17:10] <nadav> I installed the squid, but I can't find it in the /etc folder
[17:10] <nadav> where else could it copy itself to?
[17:11] <bobo37773> hodlum: You should be able to extract your themes manually too (if that is your problem) to either "/home/username/.themes" or to "/usr/share/themes/"(system wide)
[17:11] <Giusiii84> weee
[17:11] <nadav> ah
[17:11] <nadav> squid3
[17:11] <hodlum> bobo37773, Looking up lxappearance now!! Also this might be a dumb question but what is KDE and KDM?
[17:11] <nadav> ~_~
[17:11] <Tdaug> Myrtti:  Thanks.  All changed.  That was obviously simpler than I made it seem :/
[17:11] <happy> ney alternatives to hostapd?
[17:12] <ikonia> nadav: dpkg -l | grep -i squid
[17:12] <ikonia> nadav: please put the output in a pastebin
[17:12] <bobo37773> hodlum: kde is a desktop environment. The one that kubuntu uses. kdm is probably the name of the display manager (aka the login screen)
[17:12] <ikonia> yekoms: you there? still waiting for a screenshot of you running netflix in ubuntu
[17:12] <happy> ikonia??
[17:12] <hodlum> bobo37773, Thanks that has cleared up alot of searches for me!!!
[17:12] <ikonia> happy: what ?
[17:12] <happy> alternatives to hostapd
[17:13] <happy> ??
[17:13] <ikonia> happy: what about it ?
[17:13] <Tdaug> ikonia:  Perhaps it's a virtual machine?
[17:13] <bobo37773> hodlum: Not a problem. Happy to help. Takes a while to understand all this terminology
[17:13] <bazhang> happy, your card does not support infrastructure mode
[17:13] <ikonia> Tdaug: still waiting to find out, apparantly it's 12.04 and firefox and it jsut "works"
[17:13] <scotty^> !kde
[17:13] <happy> yup
[17:13] <bazhang> happy, does NOT
[17:13] <happy> bcm4313
[17:13] <nadav> how does one edit configuration in ubuntu?
[17:13] <bazhang> happy, you've been told this repeatedly
[17:13] <hodlum> bobo37773, lxappearance says it is a theme switcher (what i want) for LXDE. What is LXDE?
[17:14] <ikonia> nadav: what configuration
[17:14] <nadav> and what does this command do?
[17:14] <nadav> sudo chmod a-w /etc/squid/squid.conf.original
[17:14] <Tdaug> ikonia:  Maybe someone else set it up for them, and just showed them the essentials of running it, to avoid confusion.
[17:14] <happy> agreed
[17:14] <nadav> allow write premission on that file?
[17:14] <ikonia> nadav: changes the permissions on a file
[17:14] <bazhang> happy, so why are you repeating your question
[17:14] <happy> :(
[17:14] <ikonia> Tdaug: well, he won't respond after making that statment.....so
[17:14] <n1> anyone uses vodafone mobile connect dongle in ubuntu?
[17:14] <bobo37773> hodlum: LXDE is a different desktop environment. It doesn't matter though. You can use the app in kde without installing lxde I'm sure
[17:14] <nadav> So, after I changed the premission on the file, how do I edit it? :o
[17:14] <happy> coz i wanna share ma net so that i can use it on ma xperia s
[17:14] <bobo37773> hodlum: I use it in openbox
[17:15] <ikonia> n1: I have used a vodafone network dongle
[17:15] <scotty^> !lxde
[17:15] <ikonia> nadav: with a text editor
[17:15] <Tdaug> ikonia:  He's said something incredibly stupid and won't even try to back it up? XD
[17:15] <ikonia> nadav: it's just a text file
[17:15] <Tdaug> ikonia:  Done that myself...
[17:15] <nadav> I wanna access it from the teminal
[17:15] <nadav> like a hacker..
[17:16] <bekks> Then use a hacker's text editor.
[17:16] <ikonia> nadav: grow up
[17:16] <ikonia> nadav: it's a text file - you need to use a text editor
[17:16] <nadav> I am kidding.
[17:16] <nadav> wow.
[17:16] <ikonia> nadav: use the text editor you want to use,
[17:16] <tax_on> guys i want to connect my laptop to a TV using a hdmi cable. what to do?
[17:16] <nadav> trying to learn linux commands, chill
[17:16] <scotty^> LXDE is the default desktop used by Lubuntu.
[17:16] <mikk0> i installed ubuntu 12.04LTS and ran "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" and "apt-get install xrdp" to get a remote desktop up and running. everything works perfecet, except under settings->keyboard layout, there is only the 'us' keyboard. there are not additional keyboard layouts. what package do i need to isntall to get additional ones? i need swedish or finnish
[17:16] <n1> ikonia how can i check if it is, when inserted, in sorage or network mode (as in the software centre there is usb-modeswitch listed)?
[17:16] <hodlum> bobo37773, Thank you for all your help!! You have on the right track now! :D happy days!
[17:16] <ikonia> tax_on: plug it in, and then in the display managed select the external display
[17:16] <scotty^> It stand for Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment
[17:17] <n1> ikonia also, do you connect via VMC software or directly from ntwork manager?
[17:17] <ikonia> n1: most of the dongles also show up as a storage device
[17:17] <ikonia> n1: just use network manager to connect to the network with it
[17:17] <tax_on> ikonia, its pluged in. and its nothing in display setting
[17:18] <ikonia> tax_on: what make of card is it (chipset)
[17:18] <n1> ikonia where can I look if the driver for that particular model came preinstalled with ubuntu?
[17:19] <ikonia> n1: see if you see the device in network manager
[17:19] <tax_on> ikonia, i dont know what exactly do you mean.
[17:19] <ikonia> tax_on: What make is your video card with the HDMI port on
[17:19] <scotty^> tax_on: What graphics hardware do you have and which driver are you using?  And what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[17:21] <tax_on> scotty^, intel , 12.10
[17:21] <bobo37773> hodlum: Cool. Glad you got it working. You're welcome
[17:21] <ikonia> 12.10.....really
[17:21] <ikonia> why are you using pre-release software
[17:21] <tax_on> ikonia, i really cant understand :(
[17:21] <ikonia> you can't understand simple comments, like "why are you using pre-release software"?
[17:22] <ikonia> them I'm afraid technical discussion will be out of your grasp
[17:22] <ikonia> tax_on: 12.10 discusssion is in #ubuntu+1 (irc channel)
[17:22] <tax_on> ok
[17:22] <bobo37773> tax_on: ikonia is trying to tell you that 12.10 is beta software. The stable version is 12.04
[17:23] <awaad> I have Ubuntu 12.04 installed. If I made my gnome-terminal wider, it gives some problems in writing commands as shown below:
[17:23] <awaad> http://postimage.org/image/y8iq3owvf/
[17:23] <mikk0> what package has international keyboard layouts in it?
[17:23] <scotty^> tax_on: Hmm, that should work.  If it worked OK on 12.04 then you might need a 3.5.7-based kernel
[17:23] <awaad> Any one can help ?
[17:24] <bekks> awaad: Thats the longest hostname I have ever seen.
[17:24] <bobo37773> awaad: I have had that problem. It is VERY annoying. In the end I just switched to zsh and have yet to have any problems
[17:25] <bekks> bobo37773: zsh will not solve any terminal-related problems.
[17:25] <rushdy007_> Dears i have proplem i have bt5r3 when i get update it says Err http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid/main Packages
[17:25] <rushdy007_>   404  Not Found
[17:25] <bekks> zsh is just a shell, not a terminal.
[17:25] <bekks> !backtrack | rushdy007_
[17:25] <bobo37773> bekks: It solved that one for me.
[17:26] <rushdy007_> all it says delete that source maybe closed
[17:26] <ikonia> rushdy007_: #backtrack-linux is the channel you need
[17:26] <ikonia> rushdy007_: not this channel
[17:27] <ikonia> yekoms: back yet ?
[17:27] <Lockscreen> Is lubuntu better if you are running server with dumb machines?
[17:27] <ikonia> Lockscreen: not really
[17:27] <wols_> Lockscreen: no. ubuntu server is "better" then
[17:27] <bobo37773> rushdy007_: Install ubuntu if you want a regular desktop distro and port over the tools you need.
[17:27] <bekks> !better | Lockscreen
[17:27] <Tdaug> yekoms:  I kind of want to see this screen cap myself now...
[17:28] <wols_> ikonia, Tdaug: you are evil
[17:28] <ikonia> wols_: it's going to end one of two ways
[17:28] <wols_> you already know how it ended
[17:28] <bobo37773> Lockscreen: Better for what? Why do you need a real head on your server anyways
[17:29] <ikonia> wols_: he may have an amazing solution, in which case it should be shared.
[17:29] <Tdaug> wols_:  why evil?  Because we're curious about how to run netflix in ubuntu?
[17:29] <wols_> Tdaug: cause you run the spanish inquisition on him, complete with the comfy chair :)
[17:31] <wilee-nilee> wols_, reminds me of monty python's love for the spanish inquisition
[17:31] <Tdaug> wols_:  Was that meant to be funny?  I'm very confused now...
[17:31] <Lockscreen> bobo37773: I want my employees to run ubuntu, and they will have a machine with atom an 1gb ram no hard-drive. Is there any avantage in Lubuntu over Ubuntu?
[17:31] <OerHeks> wilee-nilee, @ netflix ?
[17:31] <n1> ikonia when inserted, blinks blue (so does that mean it's in the "network mode"). in the network manager, under "mobile connections" card, I have to input the data manually (by choosing). should i see the signal even before the wizard is completed or only after?
[17:31] <bekks> Lockscreen: Grant them more RAM, and it will make no difference.
[17:31] <wols_> Lockscreen: the fact that lubuntu needs less memory for its userinterfac
[17:32] <ikonia> n1: shouldn't need to input anything as I recall
[17:32] <H4k> !list
[17:32] <wilee-nilee> OerHeks, not contextual humor.
[17:32] <bobo37773> Lockscreen: Sure there is. It's faster and in some ways more stable (less graphical effects, etc..).
[17:32] <Lockscreen> bekks: not an option
[17:32] <Calinou> Lockscreen: lubuntu > ubuntu by far
[17:32] <bobo37773> Lockscreen: I still wouldn't recommend a desktop distro for a server though
[17:32] <H4k> !alias
[17:33] <n1> ikonia thanx
[17:33] <bekks> Lockscreen: It will be a real pain then for your employees, even with 1GB RAM. You need RAM for all the applications they are supposed to use.
[17:33] <Calinou> inb4 people recommend arch
[17:33] <bobo37773> Calinou: Huh?
[17:33] <Lockscreen> bekks: they will run email client, office and browser
[17:33] <H4k> !list
[17:33] <Calinou> bekks: lubuntu uses about 400MB RAM after boot, so it should be fine
[17:34] <Calinou> they'll never reach 1GB
[17:34] <Calinou> what does "list" have to do with warez?
[17:34] <wols_> Calinou: of course they do. browsers and libreoffice are both pigs
[17:34] <bekks> Lockscreen: And thats too much for 1GB.
[17:34] <Calinou> use a lightweight browser like midori, and abiword/gnumeric
[17:34] <Calinou> libreoffice is bloatware because it's made for windows users
[17:34] <llutz> Calinou: 400MB with what programs running? empty lubuntu-desktop just needs bit more than 120MB
[17:35] <bekks> Calinou: And then you'll have only 600M for a fullblown office, firefox using flash, and a fullblown email client. It will be a pain.
[17:35] <Calinou> llutz: buffers not counted, on my computer which has 12GB ram
[17:35] <Lockscreen> bekks: and why would samsung cloud monitor ship that?
[17:35] <bobo37773> Need to be careful though. Since no hdd means no swap too probably
[17:35] <Calinou> bekks: firefox... hahaha... at least use chromium
[17:35] <Calinou> no HDD? you can't save anything then
[17:35] <wols_> Lockscreen: will you use thin clients or will your atom clients run a full linux distro=
[17:35] <wols_> ?
[17:35] <bekks> Lockscreen: Ship what? Do they inhibit to buy more RAM? :)
[17:35] <wols_> Lockscreen: and what OS/distro does the server run?
[17:37] <paolooo> hi @all, I'm currently installing ubuntu on other laptop. I'm currently stuck on Partitioning section. I have 750.2 GB HD. What is the correct/recommended partition? Please help thanks.
[17:37] <Lockscreen> wols_: the machine will run a ethernet mirror of the os, and the files will be saved in the server...
[17:37] <bobo37773> Calinou: That's what the op was saying. No hdd. Some type of server setup running virtualization probably
[17:37] <ikonia> paolooo: it's personal choice, slice it up how you feel best
[17:37] <bekks> Lockscreen: Whats an "ethernet mirror"?
[17:38] <paolooo> ikonia really I don't have an idea. Any advice will do.
[17:38] <ikonia> paolooo: any other OS on the disk, or just ubuntu ?
[17:38] <paolooo> ikonia: ubuntu only
[17:38] <ikonia> paolooo: laptop or desktop ?
[17:38] <Lockscreen> bekks: Im not expressin right, there will be no OS in the machine, it will run just a process that grabs a server virtual machine...
[17:38] <paolooo> ikonia: laptop
[17:39] <ikonia> paolooo: how much ram
[17:39] <bekks> Lockscreen: So you will use those clients as Linux terminal server clients only?
[17:40] <bobo37773> paolooo: I usually run /home on it's own partition. Makes clean installs easier
[17:40] <Calinou> bobo37773: out of curiosity, isn't that slower? I did that too on my computer
[17:40] <Lockscreen> bekks: yep
[17:40] <bobo37773> Calinou: Isn't what slower? Giving /home it's own partition?
[17:41] <paolooo> ikonia: 1G only but planning to make it 2G or 4G
[17:41] <Calinou> yes
[17:41] <Calinou> and it's its, not it's
[17:42] <paolooo> bobo37773: what do you mean by run /home. I'm sorry, i'm a noob :)
[17:42] <bobo37773> Calinou: Ah yes you're right. Oh, I mean your right :P. Anyways, non slow down issues here.
[17:42] <ikonia> paolooo: ok, simple layout 3 partitions, 1.) / partition at 30gb 2.) swap partition at 6GB, 3.) /home partition rest of the disk
[17:42] <wols_> Lockscreen: will you use LTSP?
[17:42] <paolooo> bobo37773: I'm new here in ubuntu and linux.
[17:42] <bobo37773> paolooo: It's okay. Are you in an install right now?
[17:42] <wols_> Lockscreen: and since your clients don't run a linux distro, you run a server only. NOT lubuntu but ubuntu server or any other Linux server distro
[17:42] <memee> salut à tous,
[17:43] <miraje> has anyone here used the festival voice to text system? (not just the "flite") I was wondering if it's voices sound more realistic than epeak?
[17:43] <wols_> miraje: you can't hear a voice to text system.
[17:43] <memee> depuis cet après-midi j'ai un problème avec xubuntu 12.4 quand je log out
[17:43] <paolooo> ikonia: so, /dev/sda1  = 30GB. /dev/sda2 = 6GB. and /dev/sda3 = *
[17:43] <wols_> hence it cannot sound natural. it doesn't sound
[17:43] <miraje> sorry, text to voice
[17:43] <wols_> !fr | memee
[17:44] <paolooo> bobo37773: yes
[17:44] <ikonia> paolooo: seems good
[17:44] <Lockscreen> wols_: yes, and Iĺl be using one like these http://www.samsung.com/au/consumer/pc-peripherals/monitor/cloud-display
[17:44] <miraje> so does festival text to voice sound more realistic than epeak?
[17:44] <paolooo> ikonia: ok trying now
[17:46] <paolooo> ikonia: /dev/sda1 = Drive C: in windows?
[17:46] <bobo37773> paolooo: Okay. You're on the partition screen right now and were confused a little bit I guess? Here is why I said what I did: /home is where your user files go (videos, music, config files blah blah). If you put it on its own partition you can do a clean install when the next version comes out and keep your same /home partition. Does that make sense at all?
[17:46] <ikonia> paolooo: doesn't work like that
[17:46] <Tdaug> are there any channels devoted to terminal commands?
[17:46] <bobo37773> Tdaug: What are you trying to do?
[17:47] <Lockscreen> wols_: yes, they will not run anything, my question is: If the imega is more or less heavy, will it be resource consuming for the clients? or that processing will be server only?
[17:47] <Tdaug> bobo37773:  Learn ALL the commands :D
[17:47] <bobo37773> Tdaug: Oh! Haha. Well first I guess you need to know all the available commands on your system right?
[17:48] <Tdaug> bobo37773:  Yep.  Google helps a little here, but still, Google :)
[17:49] <miraje> I'll have to interpret the lack of candid answers to mean that no one here has ever used festival or espeak
[17:49] <Tdaug> miraje:  I just learned about espeak myself.  That is AWESOME.
[17:49] <Lockscreen> LOL
[17:49] <bobo37773> Tdaug: Here is the function I use in my .zshrc (.bashrc whatever): http://pastebin.com/9fWV9nVS    Then I just type lac in the terminal and it shows me all available commands
[17:50] <Guest41452> on a macbook air under ubuntu, how do I do the hash key?
[17:50] <Tdaug> bobo37773:  Thanks :)
[17:50] <bobo37773> Tdaug: From there you can read the long options if available (commandname --help). Or read their man pages (man commandname). Welcome :)
[17:52] <wols_> Lockscreen: what is a "imega"? With LTSP everything runs on the server. Clients only function as a display and input device. So each program the client runs, actually runs on the server and uses the servers ressources
[17:52] <vedic> Is it possible to find which storage controller is used on the server? IDE or SCSI etc
[17:53] <bekks> Sure.
[17:53] <Lockscreen> wols_ imega is image
[17:53] <bekks> vedic: lspci
[17:53] <bobo37773> Guest41452: " alt+3 " on us keyboards. Are you using a uk macbook?
[17:53] <Guest41452> yes
[17:53] <Guest41452> alt+3 seems to work now.
[17:53] <Guest41452> perfect, thanks.
[17:53] <Lockscreen> wols_ thanks a looooooot, nowhere else they take the time to explain this....
[17:54] <bobo37773> cool
[17:54] <vedic> bekks: yea, lspci worked. I see SCSI mentioned on the list
[17:54] <Lockscreen> wols_ are you server or admin?
[17:54] <Malimbar> ffortress
[17:55] <Abrackadabra> Hi guys
[17:55] <bobo37773> Abrackadabra: Hey
[17:55]  * wols_ is not a server
[17:55] <bekks> vedic: Which doesnt tell you which storage controller is used.
[17:55] <vedic> bekks: yea :)
[17:55] <vedic> I see SATA as well
[17:56] <Abrackadabra> I have a problem which is easily solvable may be
[17:56] <vedic> bekks: How to find that?
[17:56] <bobo37773> Abrackadabra: Sounds pretty mysterious :P. What's the problem?
[17:56] <bekks> vedic: By investgating the device nodes (sda, sdb, etc.) and taking a look at dmesg whoch controller was used to connect them.
[17:57] <Lockscreen> ChrisLAS: have to use a mediocre v ersion of the window manager is not an option for users
[17:57] <ruslan> hi. I can't make my usb startup stick to run: "Loading Operating System... Boot error". Nothing else. Plese help
[17:57] <Abrackadabra> I have an ubuntu server, which shares internet from a LTE modem into a WiFi net
[17:57] <Abrackadabra> I have also installed no-ip on it
[17:58] <bobo37773> go on
[17:59] <Abrackadabra> So, I can easily ssh to it from the wireless net. But I cannot do so from the internet, using the domain name given.
[17:59] <Abrackadabra> Domain name resolves to an IP adress and .. connection timeouts
[18:00] <kriskropd> Abrackadabra: do you have port 80 on the router forwarding to the local server ip?
[18:00] <wols_> Abrackadabra: most probably your provider doesn't allow it. try a high port for SSH. Also: on your ubuntu, what IP does the LTE modem interface have?
[18:00] <Abrackadabra> Internet provider support says that it is necessary to buy a distinct IP, which is unbearable for poor students =)
[18:00] <vvpalin> Abrackadabra, does your cell provider give you a IP or stick you behind a proxy ?
[18:00] <wols_> kriskropd: ssh, not httpd
[18:00] <kriskropd> wols_: my bad
[18:01] <kriskropd> Abrackadabra: port 22 I meant
[18:01] <kriskropd> Abrackadabra: or whatever port you have it set to
[18:01] <bobo37773> Abrackadabra: So, what you mean is that you cannot ssh in outside your lan?
[18:01] <vvpalin> Abrackadabra, you can setup a reverse tunnel if you have a external server ... pretty easy to do.
[18:02] <Abrackadabra> eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:09:3b:f0:1a:40           inet addr:10.0.0.10  Bcast:10.0.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[18:02] <Abrackadabra> this is my modem
[18:02] <wols_> Abrackadabra: NAT. either you can set up portforwarding on your modem or it won#t work
[18:03] <Abrackadabra> How can I setup portforwarding?
[18:03] <vvpalin> ya its not possible then, get a cheap vps, and do a reverse tunnel
[18:03] <wols_> Abrackadabra: depends on your modem, not ubuntu. not even sure your modem can do it
[18:03] <vvpalin> this is a LTE connection ??
[18:03] <Abrackadabra> yes
[18:03] <Abrackadabra> yota
[18:03] <vvpalin> ya you cant
[18:03] <Tdaug> clear
[18:03] <kriskropd> Abrackadabra: modem or router should be able to do it portforwading.com may help
[18:04] <Abrackadabra> thanks, gotta read
[18:05] <kriskropd> Abrackadabra: portforward.com *
[18:05] <xangua> hi there, i can't burn a cd with wav files with brasero, is there anything i need to be able to¿
[18:05] <kriskropd> Abrackadabra: has guides for certain routers/modems
[18:06] <Abrackadabra> well...
[18:07] <Abrackadabra> my modem is an usb stick, which works out of the box
[18:07] <kriskropd> Abrackadabra: so is it like, 3G? or something? is there any interface for it or is it controlled by the ISP entirely?
[18:08] <kriskropd> Abrackadabra: you may be out of luck
[18:08] <kriskropd> Abrackadabra: user interface*
[18:09] <Abrackadabra> no, it just works =/
[18:09] <kriskropd> Abrackadabra: things that "just work" ar enot meant to be tampered with or adjusted, I can't help you then :/
[18:10] <Abrackadabra> saaad
[18:11] <Abrackadabra> and what about reverse tunnel? I understood that if I have another server somewhere I can achieve my goal?
[18:13] <sk1special> allright. im trying to get this thing to read my bootable usb drive. i got it to show up in the grub menu by using the grub repair/reinstall tool. and it now lists the proper drive. but when i go to load it is says no such device ( string of numbers) and hd2 cannot get c/h/s values. and i can hear it loading my floppy drive instead of the usb
[18:13] <kriskropd> Abrackadabra: im not really sure waht it was you were trying to do, but reverse tunneling isnt too hard http://www.howtoforge.com/reverse-ssh-tunneling
[18:14] <sk1special> ( and i allready used the disk utility to check and make sure that the usb device path or whatever was the one listed and it matches
[18:14] <Abrackadabra> I just want to be able to reach my server from the internet =(
[18:14] <bekks> Abrackadabra: You have to test that from outside your local LAN.
[18:15] <bekks> Abrackadabra: Being in your local LAN, you cannot test it.
[18:15] <kriskropd> bekks: Abrackadabra is having problems because they are using some LTE usb thing to connect their server to the internet, I believe
[18:16] <bekks> kriskropd: Wrong. He is in his local LAN connected using LTE trying to access his server using the external LTE connection.
[18:16] <Abrackadabra> kriskropd is right =)
[18:17] <Abrackadabra> server is right here, connected to internet via LTE
[18:17] <Tdaug> Is there a way for me to keep the terminal fullscreen, instead of scaling it every time I open it?
[18:18] <vvpalin> As far as im aware, if your using a LTE connection, they don't assign you a publicly addressable IP.
[18:18] <bekks> Abrackadabra: So in your local LAN, you are trying to access your server from the external connection?
[18:18] <vvpalin> and youll need that if you want to tunnel into your box
[18:19] <bekks> vvpalin: Using IP networking - as LTE does - you will always have an external IP.
[18:19] <kriskropd> Abrackadabra: I've stepped back because I apparently don't understand LTE :)
[18:20] <Abrackadabra> bekks: I'm in another network, trying to reach the box
[18:20] <bekks> Abrackadabra: In which other network?
[18:20] <Abrackadabra> My campus default internet provider
[18:21] <vedic> On my remote system (no GUI), I want to shrink /usr partition to 30GB from currently 50GB and wants to allocated this 20 (i.e. 50 - 30) to /home/user. How to do that?
[18:21] <vedic> note the /home and /usr have separate partitions
[18:21] <bekks> vedic: By creating a backup first, and then using gparted live to modify your partitions and filesystems.
[18:22] <Abrackadabra> So, noip host resolves to some IP my servers has, and when I try to ssh to it, I fail
[18:23] <bekks> Abrackadabra: and your server has no connection to the internet besides that USB LTE thing?
[18:23] <Abrackadabra> yes
[18:23] <bekks> Abrackadabra: And your server has no other ethernet connection?
[18:24] <Abrackadabra> it is connected to local campus network via ethernet cable
[18:25] <bekks> Abrackadabra: Please decide. Does it have another network connection rather than USB LTE: yes / no.
[18:25] <Abrackadabra> Sorry if I was unclear. No.
[18:26] <bekks> Abrackadabra: So which network interfaces do you see in ifconfig -a on your server?
[18:27] <KRomeleoN> anyone else excited about gnomebuntu?
[18:28] <Abrackadabra> eth0 - local network connection, eth1 - internet LTE connection, wlan1 - shares internet to wifi, lo
[18:28] <joshryandavis> Can anyone tell he how I can install java6-jdk? Every time I run apt-get install sun-java6-jdk I get an error telling me there is no installation candidate.
[18:28] <bekks> !java | joshryandavis
[18:28] <vvpalin> bekks, so my question is this, every new smartphone that uses LTE has its own personal IP?
[18:29] <bekks> vvpalin: No, not a personal IP. But an IP, since it uses IP networking.
[18:29] <vvpalin> ok so then they are stuck behind a firewall and or proxy of some sort setup by the LTE provider
[18:29] <MHazell> Does your phone UP change
[18:30] <OerHeks> KRomeleoN, gnomebuntu ? another fork ?
[18:30] <MHazell> IP
[18:30] <KRomeleoN> yes
[18:30] <KRomeleoN> well
[18:30] <vvpalin> hence unless you have access to that and are able to do some port forwarding you wont be able to ssh into whatever
[18:30] <KRomeleoN> official Gnome Based Ubuntu
[18:31] <KRomeleoN> sans unity :)
[18:31] <trism> !info ubuntu-gnome-desktop | OerHeks
[18:31] <trism> !info ubuntu-gnome-desktop quantal | OerHeks
[18:31] <KRomeleoN> Gnome Quantal
[18:31] <KRomeleoN> Oct 18
[18:31] <trism> sorry forgot the quantalness
[18:31] <Abrackadabra> But I have internet connection nevetheless. Is there some kind of service somewhere which makes it possible?
[18:32] <hilo> Is it dangerous to use hdparm sleep modes for sata drives that are members of linuxraid arrays? I had a drive fall out of sync of my linuxraid level 5 this weekend after setting them to spin down after x minutes of inactivity. It has rebuilt successfully and the drive seems okay, but now I am not sure if the drive is dying or the standby mode caused the rebuild. Can someone please help or point me in the right direction?
[18:33] <openvoid> hilo, i'm sure it is because of standby
[18:33] <H4k> hi all
[18:33] <H4k> !list
[18:34] <hilo> openvoid, So is there any option for saving power and life span for members of raidlinux? The server runs 24/7 but is only access once every 6-12 hours.
[18:34] <bekks> hilo: No.
[18:35] <hilo> Thanks
[18:35] <openvoid> hilo, spinup/down often wears resource worse than constant spin
[18:35] <Abrackadabra> guys? =(
[18:36] <bekks> Abrackadabra: Whats the output of "netstat -rn|grep UG"?
[18:37] <Abrackadabra> abrackadabra@OldRustyJack:~$ netstat -rn | grep UG
[18:37] <Abrackadabra> 0.0.0.0         10.0.0.1        0.0.0.0         UG        0 0          0 eth1
[18:38] <bekks> Abrackadabra: provide the entire output of "netstat -rn" in a pastebin please.
[18:38] <bekks> !pastebin | Abrackadabra
[18:39] <Abrackadabra> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1279763/
[18:40] <YellowGTO> Wow youtube is down
[18:40] <YellowGTO> D:
[18:40] <bekks> Abrackadabra: Whats that 93.175.2.0 network? You campus network?
[18:40] <Abrackadabra> Yes
[18:40] <samflynn> Всем привет. Диалог виду с помощью переводчика. Я с таким вопросом. Есть у кого книга "Программируем на Python" М. Доусон?
[18:40] <samflynn> =)
[18:40] <samflynn> Hello. Dialogue form with the help of an interpreter. I'm such a question. Does anyone have the book "programming in Python" M. Dawson?
[18:41] <bekks> Abrackadabra: Then why did you say your server is NOT connected to your campus network?
[18:41] <bekks> Abrackadabra: I asked you two times.
[18:42] <genera> how would the usb radio modem stick look like in that netstat output?
[18:42] <Abrackadabra> Well, you asked about internet the first time, and there is no internet in the local network
[18:42] <Abrackadabra> Sorry if I understood you wrong
[18:43] <vvpalin> Abrackadabra, a reverse ssh shell will work, basically you get a server setup ssh and then forward ports back to yourself. It will allow you to login as long as you have a connection to that server
[18:43] <bekks> Abrackadabra: I asked you two times wether your server has another connection rather than USB LTE. You answered no. Obviously you have a wifi attached AND another ethernet connection.
[18:43] <bekks> Abrackadabra: So thats the point where I am out of that ticket.
[18:45] <Abrackadabra> Well, thanks
[18:49] <Zuu_> hey
[18:49] <Zuu_> anyone listening to this?
[18:49] <fabio> non c'e nessuno??
[18:49] <DJones> !it | fabio
[18:49] <yeats> !it | fabio
[18:49] <DJones> !anyone | Zuu_
[18:49] <Zuu_> anyone speaking english, please
[18:50] <fabio> ok.
[18:50] <fabio> sorry
[18:51] <Zuu_> Just booted up Ubuntu after install and resolution is out of range. What now?
[18:51] <Zizilk> Hi everyone
[18:51] <wols_> Zuu_: what videocard?
[18:52] <Zuu_> ATI HD4670
[18:53] <Zuu_> it's an AGP slot card
[18:53] <nedev> hey
[18:53] <wols_> ouch. does it show in lspci? I suggest you try flgrx
[18:53] <nedev> http://pastebin.com/9AvmWphA
[18:53] <wols_> *fglrx
[18:53] <nedev> any idea?
[18:53] <Hesse2> Guten Abend!
[18:54] <sk1special> someone have a good iso converter? so i can make a bootable thumbdrive
[18:54] <wols_> nedev: use upstart as the nice messages tell you to
[18:55] <_Tristan> Hello. when I use xbacklight to change my brightness, it's all like animationey and smooth. How can I make my brightness keys work like that?
[18:55] <woot-0854> sk1special: are you making a .iso file?
[18:55] <Zizilk> sorry for question, but where can i find information about tablet PC's that can probably support Ubuntu. I found hardware prequsites but they seem's for tablet and smartphone developers. I found device with double core 1GHz 1gb RAM also with hdmi and usb-host onboard. But i wnna be sure that i can install ubuntu on it (this tablet has android 4.0 onboard)
[18:56] <sk1special> taking a iso of windows rp and making it into a bootable usb so i can install
[18:56] <woot-0854> sk1special: idk 4 windows
[18:57] <SpaceRocket> I using Mac Ubuntu on Macbook but there is no sound there is red light coming out from the headphone jack
[18:57] <OerHeks> sk1special, check the microsoft msdn network, they have an usb installer for windows.
[18:57] <Zuu_> sorry, how do I use fglrx?
[18:58] <sk1special> they do but i was looking for a different program to see if itd work better. the grub menu wont load my usb ( and yes i updated it and yes it works on other comps so i know it works )
[18:58] <nedev> well, wols_ , Upstart wont work
[18:58] <nedev> user@user-VirtualBox:/etc/init.d$ ./squid3 Upstart Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8) utility, e.g. service squid3 Upstart
[18:59] <sk1special> and grub also gives me some error message when i try to use f12 and it skips my bios settings to load directly to usb first
[18:59] <Zuu_> wols: it does show up though on the list of hw
[18:59] <woot-0854> sk1special: the grub loader should always boot.  but the construction of the windows fs is compatable w/o chainloader+1 ?
[19:00] <yakster> does anyone know of a good way to restore a Virtualbox working install, to a hardware restore?
[19:00] <sk1special> woot: idk what the last half of that means lol. but when i try it in grub it says.. hd2 cannot get c/h/s values no such device and it attempts to load my floppy drive
[19:00] <yakster> migrate VirtualBox to Hardware?
[19:01] <woot-0854> yakster: clone
[19:01] <sk1special> and i checked in the disk manager utility and it is the proper device path/name/whatever
[19:01] <n1_> hi. is there any shell script text editor with "run" command/button for ubuntu and which?
[19:01] <yakster> ok, jsut boot my VM with clonezilla and do a bit4bit copy?
[19:01] <woot-0854> yakster: write a grub
[19:02] <woot-0854> yakster: or a cd would work I guess. idk os we are talking about
[19:02] <yakster> ubutnu Music Brainz server…
[19:02] <woot-0854> sk1special: grub needs chainloader+1 for windows boot
[19:03] <yakster> I am not using any wondows, I have a dedicated maching to run the musicbrainz server
[19:03] <sk1special> woot: what is that? and what do i do for that? my running copy of windows loads fine..just not the update im trying to install off the usb
[19:03] <woot-0854> sk1special: oh so have you used isomagic to rewrite the iso?
[19:04] <sk1special> no i used to recommended windows program downloaded & created the usb. it works fine on my other pc. it just wont load under grub here
[19:05] <woot-0854> sk1special: is the disk array setup diffrent?
[19:06] <sk1special> when i try to use f12 to go to the boot device menu directly and select it instead of showing the device list it shows exiting pxe rom no such device grub rescue.
[19:06] <woot-0854> sk1special: f2 and change boot order on bios
[19:06] <OerHeks> sk1special, hold shift @ boot to enter grub menu
[19:06] <sk1special> woot: not sure what you mean by disk array. i have two hdds in here. windows on my primary and ubuntu on the secondary. ubuntu and windows recognize the usb as a copy of windows upgrade whatever..
[19:07] <sk1special> i allready changed the boot order in bios to default to usb also..and grub shows up instead.
[19:07] <sk1special> OerHeks: what do i do once im in the grub menu? it does show the usb..it just wont let me boot to it
[19:08] <OerHeks> sk1special, not sure what to do with windows on a stick.
[19:09] <sk1special> OerHeks: its supposed to just boot to it..and i know what to do once i get there. its just that grub is not letting me boot to it.
[19:09] <woot-0854> sk1special: did you try the command chainloader+1?
[19:10] <sk1special> woot: no..  just sudo chainloader+1 in the grub command line ?
[19:10] <woot-0854> no sudo
[19:10] <sk1special> so just go into the command line at the grub menu and type chainloader+1  and enter?
[19:10] <woot-0854> sk1special: I think so
[19:10] <woot-0854> sk1special: I dont know windows very well
[19:11] <sk1special> hmm. okay ill try it .. brb
[19:11] <woot-0854> sk1special: on sec
[19:11] <woot-0854> crud
[19:11] <woot-0854> Hello Ubuntu!
[19:12] <woot-0854> echo "Hello"
[19:19] <sk1special> okay so. chainloader+1 is a no go. chainloader asks for a file name. so i tried the /dev/sdc1 that it lists my thumbdrive as. no go. so i tried just usb to get a device name list. shows nothing. tried updating grub again..and checking disk utility again. they all say its there as /dev/sdc1. what now?
[19:20] <sk1special> usb shows nothing as in there is nothing there not the command didnt work *
[19:21] <BluesKaj> sk1special, lsusb
[19:22] <n1> anyone ever used saki3g script for connecting vodafone mobile connect dongle?
[19:22] <woot-0854> sk1special: sry
[19:23] <sk1special> http://pastebin.com/suqZhh2k
[19:24] <Titomen>  nows how to add allpartition of a new hardrive on initramsfs
[19:25] <sk1special> is there a way i can just disable grub completely and still get into ubuntu to turn it back on? like for a single startup or something?
[19:26] <sk1special> woot: sall good. just lame that what should work never does lol
[19:26] <BluesKaj> sk1special, what make is your usb drive
[19:27] <sk1special> Sony Ericsson
[19:28] <sk1special> BluesKaj: but its a adapter thumbdrive that i plug a micro sd card into. it loads on the other computer tho and it worked fine originally installing windows and ubuntu on here
[19:28] <Titomen> anybody knows how to add all partitions of sda to sdb on initrmsf..i have raid software on ubuntu..my gard drive failed, place a new one and have to copy partitiuons
[19:30] <BluesKaj> then it's listed , run sudo fdisk -l to see what it's device designation is , then you may be able to mount it
[19:30] <Orpheon> Hello, I have a small problem with installing a printer. It's a HP Deskjet 5150, and lsusb recognizes it correctly, yet it doesn't appear in "Printing" or "Printing-->Add"
[19:30] <Orpheon> any ideas how to get it to work?
[19:30] <bekks> !details | Orpheon
[19:32] <sk1special> http://pastebin.com/CWtsPECy
[19:32] <sk1special> and the disk utility says its mounted allready tho
[19:32] <Orpheon> I have a problem with installing my USB printer. Running ubuntu 12.04 64 bit. When I try to open "Printing" to install my printer, and click on Add, I do not see my printer in the list to configure, just "URI" and "Network devices". I tried running lsusb, and it returned Bus 002 Device 010: ID 03f0:6204 Hewlett-Packard DeskJet 5150c, which is correct, but the GUI Printing doesn't recognize it.
[19:33] <Orpheon> bekks, ^
[19:33] <n1> i have a problem with vodafone mobile connect dongle, think the saki3g script is my last option, but returns error when run it in terminal
[19:34] <TJ-> Unity notification pop-up background colour has changed to light-grey since logging in using XFCE4 instead of Unity. Any ideas what setting that will have altered and how to correct it?
[19:35] <n1> where to upload ubuntu scripts?
[19:35] <gmachine_24> I need to wipe a hard drive completely - using dd to zero-out the hard drive, is this considered a legit way to destroy data?
[19:36] <TJ-> gmachine_24: Yes. Although to meet some security standards you must use particular procedures including patterns and multiple passes
[19:36] <k1l> gmachine_24: take a look at "shred"
[19:37] <gmachine_24> TJ-, thanks. I am going to do multiple overwrites. I use "shred" now for files/folders.........
[19:38] <bekks> gmachine_24: You have to use patterns, as well.
[19:38] <Heebie-home> Is anyone here using ZFS as root and other filesystems on their Ubuntu 12.04 system?
[19:38] <gmachine_24> bekks, yeah, I'm going to use patterns.
[19:38] <gmachine_24> as well
[19:39] <gmachine_24> I gues
[19:39] <gmachine_24> s
[19:39] <bekks> gmachine_24: With dd? :D
[19:39] <bekks> gmachine_24: Just use shred. :)
[19:39] <gmachine_24> OK, shred seems to be the winner.
[19:40] <gordonjcp> gmachine_24: what, for overwriting disks?
[19:40] <Heebie-home> What type of filesystem are you trying to shred stuff on?
[19:40] <gordonjcp> gmachine_24: a single pass of /dev/zero will wipe everything beyond recovery
[19:40] <gmachine_24> gordonjcp, yes.
[19:40] <gordonjcp> apart from mapped-out sectors
[19:40] <gordonjcp> but then they've been mapped out because they're not reliably readable
[19:41] <gordonjcp> the whole thing about needing to write a million times with different patterns is nonsense, unless you're using 20-year-old disks
[19:41] <gmachine_24> What I am doing is reloading win7 onto the laptop I'm typing on right now - I've been running Ubuntu for years but I want to sell it and I've backed up everything I need but to sell it I need to reinstall Win7
[19:41] <Heebie-home> It is a good idea to use some random data.
[19:41] <gordonjcp> Heebie-home: makes no difference
[19:42]  * nibbier would use if=/dev/random ;-)
[19:42] <nibbier> good things take time
[19:42] <gordonjcp> nibbier: too slow
[19:42] <gordonjcp> anyway, *it makes no difference*
[19:42] <gmachine_24> are you guys going to start insulting each other's mothers?
[19:42] <gordonjcp> the bitstream is well scrambled before it's actually written to the disk
[19:42] <Heebie-home> do be sure to write whatever you're using the physical device.
[19:43] <gordonjcp> so even if you send all /dev/zero it's effectively a pseudorandom bitstream that's written
[19:43] <nibbier> i would have suggested /dev/urandom but thats explicitly not recommended for cryptography!!11
[19:43] <gordonjcp> in any case, if you read the disk all you'll get back is zeros
[19:43] <gordonjcp> there is no way to read what was on the disk before you overwrote it, it is *gone*
[19:44] <gmachine_24> what would kim dotcom do?
[19:44] <gordonjcp> the NSA do not have a big magic machine that can amazingly recover overwritten data
[19:44] <bekks> Take all your money.
[19:44] <gmachine_24> No BMM?
[19:44] <k-stz> how do i unbind a keybinding?
[19:44] <gmachine_24> I thought that is what they are building in the Utah desert
[19:44] <gordonjcp> gmachine_24: modern disks record using something similar to QAM like you use for digital TV
[19:45] <gordonjcp> now
[19:45] <k1l> !ot | gmachine_24
[19:45] <gordonjcp> on very, very old disks where bits were written with north-to-south transitions or south-to-north transitions
[19:45] <gmachine_24> yes, I know, off topic
[19:45] <l0p3n> k-stz: unalias
[19:45] <gordonjcp> it was theoretically possible (but not practically possible) to sniff the "tolerance" in each transition and make a guess at what the bit was last time
[19:45] <gordonjcp> gmachine_24: modern disks haven't been able to do this for 20 years or so
[19:46] <gmachine_24> OK, all - I do thank you for your help and knowledge.
[19:46] <Heebie-home> It's not impossible, just exremely, ridiculously, e
[19:46] <k-stz> l0p3n: how do i use this? i want to remove bind from L_CTRL i think its keycode is 37
[19:46] <Heebie-home> ludicrously, insanely impractical
[19:47] <gordonjcp> Heebie-home: no, it's impossible
[19:47] <gordonjcp> Heebie-home: not with old disks, right enough
[19:47] <gordonjcp> Heebie-home: with anything >2GB, totally impossible
[19:47] <naczu> Hello ! is there anyone to help me about desktop recorders
[19:47] <gordonjcp> Heebie-home: it's hard enough to distinguish the desired signal from noise ;-)
[19:47] <naczu> here is my last resort
[19:47] <l0p3n> k-stz: aha I thought you meant alias
[19:48] <guntbert> !details | naczu
[19:48] <l0p3n> k-stz: Then I'm sorry I don't know
[19:49] <k-stz> i played with Options... in keyboard preferences (lucid) and set compose to left control key, but now i can't change it back
[19:49] <naczu> my os is linux mint cinnamon it is ubuntu 12.04 based. I need a desktop recorder which has shortcuts to pause when recording
[19:49] <jrib> !mint | naczu
[19:49] <Heebie-home> I'm trying to get Ubuntu 12.04 (64-bit) working with ZFS pools for the disks using this tutorial: https://github.com/dajhorn/pkg-zfs/wiki/HOWTO-install-Ubuntu-to-a-Native-ZFS-Root-Filesystem   For some reason, when I go to boot into the running system, it tells me that a device cannot be found, so it can't load a kernel.) or possibly vice-versa)
[19:50] <bekks> Heebie-home: Then omit that ZFS stuff in linux.
[19:52] <k-stz> how do i reset the keyboard layout?
[19:52] <vvpalin> pour some water on it
[19:52] <Heebie-home> bekks: Did you actually read my message? :/  The point is getting it working with ZFS. (for screaming I/O performance)
[19:53] <bekks> Heebie-home: For screaming I/O performance I'd NEVER user ZFS on Linux, due to the fact that it is a useland implementation and no kernelspace implementation.
[19:53] <Heebie-home> It's not userland anymore, it's mainstream kernel. :/
[19:54] <bekks> Heebie-home: Since when? :)
[19:54] <k-stz> doesn't anyone know where ubuntu gets the information to customize keyboard
[19:54] <Heebie-home> Since a while ago now.  It even has Linus' blessing as far as I know.
[19:54] <Heebie-home> The only thing giving me problems is using it as a root filesystem.
[19:55] <tripper> Hey.
[19:55] <tripper> I'm having sound issues with Lucid.
[19:55] <tripper> It's on a Toshiba NB205
[19:56] <tripper> Weird thing is, at the GDM, it plays the little bongo chime thing.
[19:56] <l0p3n> k-stz: Maybe this will help you: http://askubuntu.com/questions/395/how-do-i-reset-my-keyboard-layout
[19:56] <tripper> But when using gnome-sound-properties or whatever it is (I just open it from gnome-control-center)
[19:56] <tripper> it only gives a dummy output
[19:56] <tripper> help
[19:56] <tripper> ;_;
[19:58] <bekks> Heebie-home: I've double checked it. There is not a single byte of ZFS supporting code in the kernel up to 3.6.2 - and there is no native ZFS (kernelspace, not userland) on linux thats GPL licensed too.
[19:58] <bekks> s/too/either/
[19:59] <Heebie-home> Well, I guess it's not blessed then. :(
[20:00] <Heebie-home> It does exist, I guess it must be considered to "taint" the kernel.  I still want to get it working. :)  (Unless someone can think of another way to use a few small SSD's as read and write cache for big piles of disk.)
[20:00] <Fanshawe> Hello everyone. I've tried just about everything to configure a Wacom Bamboo to Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, following each official and forum guide I could find. It still isn't recognised, and I'm really stuck. Can anyone offer a hand?
[20:02] <Cong> what is the fc command?
[20:03] <Fanshawe> fc command?
[20:03] <Cong> I type fc. nano pops up with the last entered command
[20:03] <iceroot> Cong:    With the `fc -s [pat=rep ...] [command]' format, COMMAND is
[20:03] <iceroot>     re-executed after the substitution OLD=NEW is performed.
[20:04] <andrewm_> hello
[20:05] <andrewm_> can anyone help me with java?
[20:06] <andrewm_> it says that i have missing dependancys
[20:06] <Cong> type apt-get -f
[20:06] <iceroot> andrewm_: what command you used, what exact error message
[20:06] <iceroot> !paste | andrewm_
[20:07] <andrewm_> !paste
[20:07] <k-stz> well found the place: /etc/default/console-setup
[20:09] <andrewm_> !paste
[20:09] <bekks> !paste > andrewm_
[20:10] <Titomen> anybody can give me help with a ubuntu raid
[20:10] <bekks> !details | Titomen
[20:10] <Titomen> i have a crash and have a hard time after placing new hard drive
[20:10] <TJ-> Titomen: Are you hitting the common "can't boot from degraded RAID" issue?
[20:11] <Titomen> i have read for 24 hours and no success..
[20:11] <Titomen> i have 4 raids...and it looks that the first one got the whole sdc as a mirror instead of sdc1..so can not recosnstruc anything
[20:11] <nibbier> Titomen, provide details as stated above please
[20:12] <andrewm_> http://imagebin.org/231947   screen shot for my error msg
[20:12] <andrewm_> TIA
[20:12] <Titomen> give me a sec and will explain
[20:12] <nibbier> Titomen, can you nopaste /proc/mdstat?
[20:12] <tripper> I have a problem with ALSA. I'm running 10.04 on a Toshiba NB205. Audio doesn't work. Strange thing is I hear the little bongo thing at the GDM just fine. It's only when I log in that it doesn't work. I've tried adding myself to group audio. No luck. All I have in the gnome audio preferences is a dummy output.
[20:13] <tripper> Please help.
[20:13] <tripper> It's really bothering me.
[20:13] <nibbier> Titomen, and while you are at it, add fdisk -l aswell
[20:13] <tripper> nibbier: TJ-: Any thoughts?
[20:13] <nibbier> tripper, no clue, did you check that your volume levels are up, right hardware is selected etc?
[20:14] <tripper> Well, what do you mean right hardware selected? It's obviously fine since I'm getting audio at the GDM.
[20:14] <Tdaug> Is there a way for me to permanently resize the terminal in ubuntu?  I use it fullscreen all the time, and  I have to resize it every time..
[20:15] <tripper> The problem is that I get a dummy output and nothing else in the gnome sound preferences.
[20:15] <TJ-> tripper: Ages since I touched 10.04, but I'd be looking for custom settings in the pulseaudo config for the user you're logging in as. A good test is to create a new user and log-in as that. If it works you know the problem local to the user profile
[20:15] <nibbier> Tdaug, possibly check out "maximus"
[20:15] <tripper> TJ-: ok, will try
[20:15] <TJ-> Tdaug: You can save the terminal size in the profile settings
[20:15] <Titomen> have 4 raid raid 1 boot swap on raid 1 system raid 5 and fyles on raid 5 3 500 gig sda sdb sdc..good for 5 years..2 days ago crash
[20:16] <TJ-> Tdaug: Edit > Profile Preferences > General on 12.04 with gnome-terminal
[20:16] <kostkon> tripper, gdm uses alsa directly. after you login pulseaudio takes over to some degree
[20:16] <kostkon> tripper, try giving: aplay -l
[20:16] <kostkon> tripper, also, does your laptop have a modem?
[20:16] <tripper> kostkon: no it doesn't
[20:16] <tripper> no modem
[20:16] <tripper> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[20:16] <tripper> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC272 Analog [ALC272 Analog] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[20:16] <nibbier> Titomen, /proc/mdstat and fdisk -l please
[20:16] <Titomen> i replace for a new one but forgot to copy partitions from the others..and now i have md2 inactive and md0 is active but it looks is using the complete hard drive since it is sda1 +sdb + sdc1
[20:16] <tripper> that's my output for aplay -l
[20:17] <kostkon> tripper, try this: open your home folder, press CTRL+H and then find and delete your .pulse folder
[20:17] <tripper> so rm ~/.pulse?
[20:17] <kostkon> or that yes
[20:17] <Titomen> i am at initrams and fdisk -l does not work
[20:17] <tripper> Done.
[20:17] <Tdaug> TJ-:  Thanks :)
[20:17] <tripper> What now, log out and in?
[20:17] <kostkon> tripper, then kill pulseaudio:  pulseaudio -k
[20:18] <tripper> E: main.c: Failed to kill daemon: No such process
[20:18] <Titomen> the rest basically says md0 active..md1 degrade mode md2 degrade mode and md1 inactive
[20:18] <tripper> Was pulse never running?
[20:18] <kostkon> tripper, hmmm. try to run it then, give:  pulseaudio -D
[20:18] <tripper> E: main.c: Daemon startup failed.
[20:19] <kostkon> tripper, hmmm
[20:19] <tripper> So it can't even start is the problem.
[20:19] <kostkon> tripper, it seems
[20:19] <tripper> it seems?
[20:19] <tripper> gosh, that's helpful
[20:20] <kostkon> tripper, and are you sure that youve deleted the .pulse folder
[20:20] <tripper> um
[20:20] <tripper> lemme check
[20:20] <tripper> ok lolwat
[20:20] <tripper> .pulse is still there
[20:20] <kostkon> ...
[20:20] <kostkon> tripper, delete it and try pulseaudio -D again
[20:21] <tripper> NOPE.
[20:21] <tripper> Still failing.
[20:21] <tripper> And then it creates .pulse again.
[20:21] <kostkon> tripper, ok
[20:21] <kostkon> then try again now
[20:21] <tripper> Can I just somehow set myself up to use ALSA directly?
[20:21] <TJ-> tripper: Try running without "-D" and add instead "-vvvvv"
[20:22] <tripper> ok
[20:22] <TJ-> tripper: That will not detach from the console, and will print a lot of debug info that might tell you what is wrong
[20:22] <tripper> oh jeez that's verbose
[20:22] <tripper> hold on
[20:22] <tripper> catting to a textfile and pastebinning
[20:22] <guntbert> !enter | tripper
[20:22] <TJ-> tripper: thanks :)
[20:24] <ls612> stupid question time here, when I set up my machine with 12.04 dual booting win7, the ubuntu setup never asked me for a root password. How can I perform sys admin tasks that require root privileges?
[20:24] <bekks> ls612: By using "sudo".
[20:24] <bekks> !sudo | ls612
[20:24] <guntbert> !root | ls612
[20:25] <diggalo> hello! I'm getting this problem where flash and spotify are skipping or repeating bits for a few seconds
[20:26] <diggalo> what could be causing this?
[20:26] <Titomen> can i paste pictures into pastebin?
[20:26] <diggalo> It might be every application, but I have only noticed with flash and spotify
[20:27] <Titomen> so i can show the cat and the fdisk -l
[20:27] <wilee-nilee> http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add Titomen
[20:27] <tripper> TJ-: kostkon:
[20:27] <tripper> E: socket-server.c: bind(): Address already in use
[20:27] <tripper> E: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-esound-protocol-unix" (argument: ""): initialization failed.
[20:27] <tripper> E: main.c: Module load failed.
[20:27] <tripper> E: main.c: Failed to initialize daemon.
[20:27] <tripper> Those are the four lines where it goes wrong.
[20:27] <ls612> Boy do I feel stupid. I didn't realize that was what sudo did. *hits self on head*. Sorry for wasting your time.
[20:28] <bekks> Titomen: cat and fdisk -l dont produce picture, but pure text.
[20:28] <guntbert> ls612: you wasted nothing - keep on learning :)
[20:28] <tripper> It's apparently trying to bind to a socket that's already bound to.
[20:28] <tripper> Now what?
[20:28] <guntbert> !pastebin | tripper
[20:28] <tripper> I'm sorry I'm sorry
[20:28] <tripper> for some reason I couldn't cat it to a textfile with the usual > pipe
[20:29] <bekks> tripper: cmd | pastebin
[20:29] <root____3> quit
[20:29] <root____3> exit
[20:29] <bekks> tripper: cmd | pastebinit :)
[20:29] <root____3> exit
[20:29] <root____3> quit
[20:29] <bekks> root____3: "/quit"
[20:29] <FloodBot1> root____3: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:29] <home> hey guys
[20:30] <home> I need a .deb file for Eclipse C++ build, for Ubuntu Builder
[20:30] <home> trying to make my own Ubuntu Custom DVD
[20:30] <home> but I can't find this deb file
[20:30] <bekks> home: Then build that deb yourself, since it does not exist.
[20:30] <kostkon> tripper, to be sure try reinstalling it:  sudo apt-get install pulseaudio --reinstall
[20:30] <Titomen> http://picpaste.com/2012-10-14_16-22-39_907-HC0KogZS.jpg and http://picpaste.com/upload.php
[20:30] <tripper> kostkon: ok
[20:30] <home> bekks: :o how would I do that?
[20:30] <Titomen> this is the result of cat /proc/mdstat and fdisk -l
[20:30] <home> bekks: does it take long?
[20:31] <bekks> Titomen: In the initramfs, most commands do not exist.
[20:31] <kostkon> tripper, if it's a fresh installation, give sudo apt-get autoclean first
[20:31] <tripper> it isn't fresh
[20:31] <bekks> home: The longest part will be to learn about how to create a .deb package.
[20:31] <Titomen> bekks: so what can i do to restart my raids?
[20:31] <home> bekks: can you create one for me <3
[20:31] <bekks> Titomen: Use a live CD.
[20:31] <bekks> home: No.
[20:31] <tripper> kostkon: reinstalling
[20:31] <home> aw :/
[20:32] <tripper> NOPE.
[20:32] <tripper> Still doesn't start.
[20:32] <Titomen> bekks: but is is a raid will that work?
[20:32] <kostkon> tripper, ok.  delete the .pulse folder again
[20:32] <kostkon> tripper, and try again
[20:33] <tripper> Yeeeeeah, no.
[20:33] <tripper> Doesn't work.
[20:33] <bekks> Titomen: It is your only chance.
[20:33] <nibbier> what is the reason the boot process gives you for dropping to initramfs-shell? "could not mount root"
[20:33] <Titomen> bekks: do you see that the md0 is using sdc ( i believe as the whole disk?
[20:33] <kostkon> tripper, same error?
[20:33] <tripper> yup
[20:33] <bekks> Titomen: No. Since you did not provide that picture.
[20:33] <jagginess> nibbier, when you compiled a crappy kernel it can do that
[20:34] <Titomen> nibbier: one of the hard drive went bad and i replace it..i think my mistake was not the copy the partitions and now md0 is using the whole disk..i am a newbe..sorry if i sound dome
[20:34] <tripper> kostkon: ideas?
[20:34] <nibbier> Titomen, i asked a specific question about what message you read when you drop to the initramfs-shell
[20:35] <Titomen> md to is inactive can not be assembel
[20:35] <Titomen> md2 sorry
[20:35] <Cong> How is this done? Edit and re-execute a command with fc.
[20:35] <Titomen> bekks: http://picpaste.com/2012-10-14_16-22-09_761-knoLWFRX.jpg here is the picture
[20:35] <kostkon> tripper, actually, try this, give:   fuser -v /dev/snd/* /dev/dsp*    and paste the output somewhere
[20:35] <nibbier> Titomen, and md2 would be what? your / ?
[20:35] <bekks> Titomen: Then use a livecd, and reassemble your drives the way you want them.
[20:35] <Titomen> yes
[20:36] <bekks> Titomen: Be sure to have a backup of ALL your data.
[20:36] <tripper> kostkon: /dev/snd/controlC0:  yestin     1654 F.... pulseaudio
[20:36] <kostkon> tripper, so, it is running already??? give:   ps -A | grep pulse
[20:36] <tripper>  1654 ?        00:00:01 pulseaudio
[20:37] <nibbier> Titomen, what raid level would md2 be on?
[20:37] <tripper> and then I try -k
[20:37] <kostkon> tripper, good. open your sound prefs
[20:37] <tripper> and it says no such process
[20:37] <Titomen> nibbier: raid 5
[20:37] <nibbier> Titomen, of how many devices? and would it contain your root partition? (/)
[20:38] <Titomen> nibbier did you see the picture..did you also see that on md0 sdc looks like is using the complete new drive
[20:38] <bekks> Titomen: Yes, it does use the whole disk. Now what? :)
[20:38] <tripper> kostkon: now it says waiting for sound system to respond
[20:38] <Titomen> nibbier: it should be sdc1
[20:38] <tripper> just a little dialog box
[20:38] <nibbier> Titomen, yes, thats wrong most likely, but thats not a problem, just remove it, copy over the partition table and add the single partiton to the corresponding md arrays
[20:38] <bekks> Titomen: How many drives should be in md2? And how many are in md2?
[20:39] <kostkon> tripper, try: pkill pulseaudio
[20:39] <kostkon> tripper, then try again to run it
[20:40] <tripper> kostkon: it all works now
[20:40] <tripper> it autorestarted once I pkilled it
[20:40] <kostkon> tripper, !
[20:40] <tripper> and speaker-test produces pink noise!
[20:40] <tripper> YAY!
[20:40]  * tripper higs kostkon, no homo
[20:40] <tripper> hugs even
[20:40] <home> nvm
[20:40] <Titomen> there are 3 500 gig drives divided in raid 1 md0 (boot) raid 1 md1 (swap) raid 5 md2 (system) raid 5 md2 (files)
[20:40] <bekks> Titomen: So you dont want to answer the questions?
[20:40] <tripper> ok thanks #ubuntu
[20:40] <tripper> I'm off
[20:40] <bekks> Titomen: How many drives should be in md2? And how many are in md2?
[20:41] <kostkon> tripper, open your sound prefs
[20:41] <kostkon> :/
[20:41] <Titomen> bekks: 3
[20:42] <nibbier> Titomen, and at 3 devices it would be 2 striped ones and a parity one, or a degraded 4-disk raid? :-)
[20:42] <Titomen> nibbier: sorry..how can i do that?
[20:42] <bekks> Titomen: "3" is an answer to one of my questions. Please answer both.
[20:44] <zymaster> Hello, I have a question. What is the best way to make Ubuntu have a cleaner ui and not be so bulky as unity? I sort of like the Windows 7 ui because it doesn't get in the way that much and still looks nice, but I hate Windows for pretty much every other aspect of it. Anyway to make Ubuntu's ui a little more clean and minimalist?
[20:44] <teemperor> zymaster: you could try xubuntu/lubuntu
[20:44] <nibbier> Titomen,  mdadm /dev/md0 -f /dev/sdc -r /dev/sdc
[20:44] <Titomen> bekks: there should be 3 and tere are 3.
[20:45] <ls612> I have another dumb question. My CPU is an i7-3610 chip, and it runs considerably hotter in Ubuntu than in Win7. Is there something that i can do to change that?
[20:45] <teemperor> zymaster: that are respins of ubuntu, with a other ui :)
[20:45] <Titomen> nibbier: let me try that
[20:45] <bekks> Titomen: Then your RAID is perffectly up.
[20:45] <nibbier> Titomen, that would remove it, then you use sfdisk -d /dev/sda | sfdisk /dev/sdc
[20:45] <zymaster> teemperor: I will look at some of those
[20:45] <bekks> Titomen: I guess md2 is still degraded - correct?
[20:45] <nibbier> bekks, not according to the screenshot http://picpaste.com/2012-10-14_16-22-09_761-knoLWFRX.jpg
[20:46] <teemperor> zymaster: or you try something that is based on ubuntu like elementary, the pro of linux: freedom of choice :)
[20:46] <zymaster> ok
[20:47] <Cong> Is it possible to telnet to the same computer running telnetd?
[20:47] <nibbier> bekks, Titomen: I'm not really sure why the md2 output is so incomplete (raid level not mentioned) and what the (S) means....
[20:47] <bekks> nibbier: But according to the answers "3" and "3" :)
[20:47] <nibbier> Cong, sure
[20:47] <home> ls612: how do you know that?
[20:47] <nibbier> bekks, i think the answers don't reflect reality, but target situation ,-)
[20:47] <zymaster> oh wow really like elementary very clean and easy to use and still looks nice. All the other alternatives seemed minimalist and easy to use but didn't look very nice.
[20:47] <bekks> nibbier: It usually means that there were too less disks to actually assemble the array.
[20:47] <home> ls612: You should be able to throttle your clockspeds, to get some very low temperatures.. Just make sure that your fan speeds are optimal.
[20:48] <bekks> nibbier: So only one of three was found.
[20:48] <nibbier> bekks, which sounds to me as if the 3-disk array was already degraded.... which means its game over anyway
[20:48] <home> ls612: it could be a hardware issue, ad I suggest taking it to ##hardware
[20:48] <bekks> nibbier: Correct.
[20:48] <Cong> nibbier, telnet replies with unable to connect. help me.
[20:49] <nibbier> bekks, (S) is spare. i'd be worried
[20:49] <teemperor> zymaster: you could also take a look on kubuntu :) its windows7-like with the ui. elementaryOS isn't out yet, i post you a link to the quite stable beta if you want
[20:49] <bekks> nibbier: only the spare is found - game over.
[20:49] <guntbert> Cong: what are you trying to do? the telnet daemon is not enabled by default - for a very good reason
[20:49] <ls612> home: Only empirically. It definitely feels much hotter in ubuntu than in Win7 to my hand. I doubt it's hardware because it works perfectly fine and is reasonably cool in Win7. Is there a command I can run to get the CPU temp?
[20:49] <guntbert> !sensors | ls612
[20:50] <bekks> Titomen: Do you have a backup of your data?
[20:50] <TJ-> nibbier: I seem to recall "S" means "Syncing" when a new device is added to the array
[20:50] <Cong> guntbert, I want to see how telnet works. I didn't the configuring. Set up inetd, removed the commented telnetd line from /etc/inetd.conf.
[20:50] <nibbier> Titomen, it seems both your disks of md2 are considered as spare units, so its not even recognized as a degraded raid - either your orignigal raid confi lacked the redundancy or something else went compeltely wrong. my bet is you wont be able to fix anything here and its time to grasp for the backups
[20:50] <zymaster> teemperor: that would be great if you could provide it
[20:50] <nibbier> TJ-, but then you would see the sync-status also
[20:51] <bekks> TJ-: Then the array would show two disks at least.
[20:51] <TJ-> nibbier: bekks True. It's a while since any of my arrays went south
[20:52] <nibbier> Cong, well.. 1st you should not use telnet. use ssh instead. if you need telnet to be running, make sure the process is up or xinetd/inetd is up and properly configured=
[20:52] <teemperor> zymaster: http://sourceforge.net/projects/elementaryos/files/unstable/  best is to burn a live-usb with it ( http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu ). Take care of data-loss, so make a backup of data of you usb-stick. If you can't boot from usb, cd is the other option :)
[20:53] <zymaster> Actually I might just go with a better dock than the unity panel thing. Best way to get rid of it?
[20:53] <bekks> Titomen: Are you still there?
[20:53] <teemperor> zymaster: give me a minute to answer that ;)
[20:54] <DaLawwd> Wow Ubuntu is still alive and kicking? Thought everybody jumped ship when Gnome3 came out?
[20:54] <guntbert> !ot | DaLawwd
[20:55] <bekks> DaLawwd: Welcome to the largest support channel on freenode. Feel free to proceed to the offtopic area :)
[20:55] <Cong> nibbier, inetd is running. I telnet to 127.0.0.1 23 but it does not connect. How do I set it up?
[20:55] <agrester> Have a question:  I have the following hd partitions [Windows][Empty][Ubuntu-XFCE][swap], I'm trying to install a second ubuntu to the empty partition but I want a whole other contained system.  When running the installer I check "do something else" and what options do I use on that partition do get it to install correctly?
[20:55] <gordonjcp> Cong: woah woah stop, telnet?
[20:55] <gordonjcp> Cong: What exactly are you trying to do?
[20:55] <DaLawwd> \j # xda-developers
[20:55] <zykotick9> Cong: WHY do you want to use telnet?
[20:55] <bekks> agrester: Pastebin the entire output of "sudo fdisk -l" please.
[20:55] <bekks> !pastebin | agrester
[20:56] <nibbier> Cong, for me it was just "sudo apt-get install telnetd"
[20:56] <agrester> bekks not at the system right now
[20:56] <bekks> agrester: Then get to that system :)
[20:56] <jaimerave> Hey guys I'm trying to compile Wine on Ubuntu 12.10 but after I made ./configure at the end i get "configure: libOSMesa development files not found (or too old), OpenGL rendering in bitmaps won't be supported.". I have libosmesa6 and libosmesa6-dev installed, versions 9.0-0ubuntu1 and this is Ubuntu 32 bits. Any ideas?
[20:56] <agrester> but I know that the empty partition is [ext4-40gig]
[20:56] <nibbier> con-man, besides that, answer gordonjcp's question ;-)
[20:56] <nibbier> cong, besides that, answer gordonjcp's question ;-) (sorry con-man)
[20:56] <Cong> nibbier, I have installed inetd and inetutils-inetd.
[20:57] <wilee-nilee> !12.10 > jaimerave
[20:58] <agrester> bekks, they are mounted as follows [Windows \boot][ext4 empty][Ubuntu \][swap]
[20:58] <jaimerave> Thanks wilee-nilee
[20:58] <Cong> nibbier, I meant I have installed inetutils-inetd and inetutils-telnetd.
[20:58] <bekks> agrester: Provide the requested output please.
[20:58] <agrester> ok, I'll have to do this later when I'm at that machine
[20:59] <agrester> got to run but will be back
[20:59] <teemperor> zymaster: the thing with the doc is quite difficult, the standard unity-confguration looks quite weird with a doc and you still get the dash when you press the super-key etc. I would go for linux-mint and try to install a dock there: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynlwMu0NMqI it is the quite the best option, because xubuntu and lubuntu are not as fancy as you may want, and unity/gnome-shell is to bloated for you
[20:59] <Titomen> nibbier: i did what you told me and here is what i get http://picpaste.com/2012-10-14_16-48-09_679-6a0JkcFz.jpg  and also http://picpaste.com/2012-10-14_16-48-25_464-WRLuMMZ8.jpg..how cna i check now the partition of the drive 3rd drive before i add it again
[20:59] <zymaster> teemperor: ok
[20:59] <zymaster> thanks
[21:00] <bekks> Titomen: Answer my question please.
[21:00] <Cong> nibbier, how do I check it telnetd is running?
[21:02] <krux> ps -ef |grep telnet ? or telnet localhost ?...
[21:02] <smj> is anyone using 12.10 with NVIDIA graphics driveR?
[21:02] <smj> driver.
[21:02] <POVaddct> netstat --inet -an |grep -w 23
[21:02] <bekks> smj: Please keep it in #ubuntu+1 :)
[21:03] <Cong> what is this netstat --inet -an |grep -w 23 command meant to respond with?
[21:03] <POVaddct> Cong: no output if telnetd is not running
[21:04] <Cong> I got no output.
[21:04] <teemperor> zymaster: install linux mint normaly, then remove the bottom bar (i think right-click on it and then something like remove should do this job) and then install cairo-dock or docky or a other dock.
[21:04] <POVaddct> Cong: do you actually want to run telnetd?
[21:04] <zymaster> ok i will take a look at that
[21:04] <Cong> POVaddct, yes.
[21:04] <nibbier> Titomen, its a lost cause, it wont resurrect your md2
[21:04] <bekks> teemperor: zymaster: Mint is not supported in here.
[21:04] <nibbier> Cong, ps waxl|grep telnet
[21:04] <bekks> Titomen: Do you have a backup?
[21:04] <home> who needs Linux Mint support?
[21:05] <bekks> home: No one in here.
[21:05] <kyrix> i have just configured a 3 disk raid5, that is in initial recovery: finish=662.9min speed=66611K/sec is this speed normal/fast/slow?
[21:05] <Cong> I don't know why everyone is so worried. telnet is still in use in homes and other places.
[21:05] <Titomen> bekks: yes i am here
[21:05] <home> bekks: weird, why did you state that then, lol
[21:05] <bekks> kyrix: How big/small are that disks.
[21:05] <POVaddct> Cong: i hope you will use telnet only for logins in your private network. do NOT use telnet over the internet.
[21:05] <home> Titomen: what do you need help with?
[21:05] <bekks> home: Context :)
[21:05] <kyrix> bekks, 3TB.
[21:05] <home> bekks: Internet :)
[21:05] <simplew> i have set /etc/sudoers to NOPASSWD but when starting certain apps like synaptic through the menu it continues asking the root password, how is possible to completly disable the root password call?
[21:05] <bekks> Titomen: Dont listen to "home". Do you have a backup?
[21:05] <bekks> kyrix: Then it is quite normal.
[21:05] <home> simplew: :o
[21:05] <zykotick9> POVaddct: i'd say "do not use telnet." ;)
[21:06] <nibbier> Cong, there is no real reason to use telnet anymore, ssh can do all of telnet plus much more, and its save for free
[21:06] <bekks> simplew: graphical applications do not care about the settings in "/etc/sudoers".
[21:06] <POVaddct> zykotick9: yeah, ssh is more convenient anyway
[21:06] <Cong> Just give me the guide to set up telnetd people.
[21:06] <Titomen> nibbier: bekks: afterr i removed sdc from md0, i reboot and this is what i get now: http://picpaste.com/2012-10-14_17-03-03_625-KSJF6Y5r.jpg  no more s
[21:06] <kyrix> bekks, thx.
[21:06] <bekks> Titomen: Answer my question.
[21:07] <simplew> bekks: so how do i completly disable the root password call?
[21:07] <bekks> Titomen: Do you have a backup?
[21:07] <Titomen> bekk: no backup
[21:07] <warren-hill> Cong: netstat lists all active connections and grep -w 23 list the outputs that contain 23.  So this will list all connections to port 23
[21:07] <nibbier> Titomen, congrats, but nothing will fix your md2
[21:07] <teemperor> bekks: srry for that :)
[21:07] <bekks> Titomen: Then you just lost a bunch of unworthy data.
[21:08] <kyrix> bekks, is it safe to write to the array?
[21:08] <Titomen> bekks: but the data is on md3..md2 is system
[21:08] <kyrix> bekks, while rebuilding?
[21:08] <bekks> kyrix: It's slow, but safe. :)
[21:08] <nibbier> Titomen, lucky you! then (providing you have a backup of your data) just reinstall the system
[21:08] <kyrix> bekks, i had an error before but i hope it was unrelated :)
[21:08] <bekks> Titomen: Dont do anything else now: Create a backup.
[21:09] <nibbier> Cong, did you install the telnetd package?
[21:09] <Cong> nibbier, what's this mean? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1280006/
[21:09] <Titomen> how can i do a backup if i am on initrmfs
[21:10] <Cong> nibbier, yes telnetd is installed.
[21:10] <bekks> Titomen: I told you an hour ago: use a livecd.
[21:10] <TJ-> Titomen: Boot from a liveISO on CD or USB; Or boot from Ubuntu installed on a USB
[21:11] <jagginess> Cong, telnet is used by dumb technicians who dont know anything. smart people use ssh
[21:12] <Cong> jagginess, I think you're paranoid.
[21:12] <jagginess> Cong, i think you don't know anything
[21:12] <Titomen> my system is 8.4  i try with a live 12 and it ask me to try or to install..i try but it did not see my raids
[21:12] <nibbier> Cong, that means telnet is not running. and considering your general knowledge i once again want to encourage you to use ssh, sudo apt-get install openssh-server and you are done
[21:12] <bekks> Titomen: Then start a livecd and create a backup of your data.
[21:12] <bekks> Titomen: Do you understand what I am writing to you?
[21:13] <Titomen> bekks: i understand, but i do not know how to do it
[21:13] <Cong> jagginess, I don't know much about telnetd or telnet but that's only because there isn't much information on the web.
[21:13]  * jagginess says ssh is part of osx, and is freely available on linux and even winbloze.. it takes putting one's brain back in 1980's before what the internet is what it is today
[21:14] <jagginess> LOL
[21:14] <nibbier> Cong, which is because its deprecated, old, useless and insecure, why would anyone write about it?
[21:14] <bekks> Titomen: Use a _live_cd_ not an _install_cd_
[21:14] <jagginess> not much information on the web about telnet? you sound like you never heard of wikipedia.
[21:15] <Titomen> nibbier: so the  fact that it is inactive and no S for spare, does not mean i can activate the array..i thoug th e mistake cam from nd0 using the complte 500 gig of the hard drive
[21:15] <Cong> wikipedia, isn't a learning school.
[21:15] <bekks> Titomen: You array is gone. It is damaged too much for ever being reassembled.
[21:15]  * jagginess thinks Cong is trolling. Telnet is so 1980's.
[21:16] <jagginess> ssh or get out!
[21:16] <Cong> I'll never use ssh until I've used telnet.
[21:16] <bekks> LOL
[21:17] <jagginess> maybe he should use dial-up internet and drop cable, to get a sense of slow speed
[21:17] <POVaddct> Cong: can you actually tell us WHY you want to use telnet and not ssh?
[21:17] <nibbier> Titomen, no, if the 2 disks were able with complete knowledge about the data, it would ahve been assembled in degraded mode... but it was not assembled at all
[21:17] <bekks> Cong: Please learn what telnet is all about and why it shouldnt be used.
[21:17] <k1l> oha, schon 11 uhr durch
[21:17] <Fike> hi
[21:18] <Fike> =o
[21:18] <nibbier> jagginess, sadly it isn't.... at least not for switch/router vendors etc
[21:18] <Titomen> nibbier: so after i do the backup..can i do somethign to recreate and install md2-system..or i have toi format everything and start form scratch
[21:18] <jagginess> nibbier, like.. ?
[21:18] <bekks> Titomen: NO.
[21:18] <pankaj_> okie dokie
[21:18] <bekks> Titomen: Your md2 array is DEAD.
[21:18] <nibbier> Titomen, start from scatch. you have a chance of doing this without losing your data partitions, but backups are 100% neccessary for that
[21:18] <TJ-> bekks: This is getting like the famous Monty Python Dead Parrot sketch :p
[21:18] <scant> when i choose "install ubuntu alongside windows 7", it asks me to specify a partition for "Files (3.2 GB)" and "Ubuntu". how much should i allocate for each partition?
[21:19] <POVaddct> can i haz ssh?
[21:19] <bekks> TJ-: Yeah :D
[21:19] <jagginess> nibbier, i work on cisco routers.. the ssh server is built-in and is configurable. Telnet is on as a legacy and is not encouraged (even with cisco exams they ask why ssh is better than telnet)
[21:19] <Titomen> nibbier: thanks..i understand and doing back up, but if i would like yjsut to reinstall system on md2..how can i do that..thanbks and sorry if i am newby and slowluw to follow
[21:20] <nibbier> jagginess, on extreme you need a special license for ssh, and on smaller switches of hp etc there is only telnet. thumbs up for cisco here
[21:20] <scant> do i just need to give 3.2GB for the files and then use all of the remaining space for the other partition?
[21:20] <bekks> Titomen: Start from scratch. Like you did 5 years ago.
[21:20] <bekks> Titomen: You arent a newbie, after 5 years of using a RAID :)
[21:20] <jagginess> nibbier, license? you joking.. using ssh is open
[21:21] <nibbier> jagginess, not in enterprise[tm] hardware... just cause tehre are open implementations does not mean you are not being billed for it ;-)
[21:21] <jagginess> scant, if you choose 'something else' for manual partitioning, you should give ubuntu no less than 7 gigs for "/" and give make a swap partition
[21:22] <kriskropd> OPENSSH is open source, other ssh servers may not be open source, but its quite uncommon
[21:23] <scant> jagginess, i don't see "something else". i'm using 11.10
[21:23] <kriskropd> telnet sends everythign in cleartext, you'll want to be very confident in whatever network you are passing telnet packets over
[21:23] <jagginess> nibbier, point being he's not even close to being a vendor asking for a special ssh-implementation from vandyke.. there's an openssh, the closed ssh you're thinking of is not openssh
[21:23] <nibbier> kriskropd, we are talking about blackbox, proprietary embedded systems, great if openssh is oss, its not like your switches are hooked up to a repository where you can just install stuffs
[21:24] <kriskropd> nibbier, my router runs dd-wrt, so actually yeah I can :) but my hardware needs a JTAG mod first to do it
[21:24] <jagginess> scant, it would be tbe last option on the partitioning mode menu.. if i remember correctly
[21:24] <markovh> is there anything like yumi that will run on ubuntu/linux for creating multiple boot images?
[21:25] <kriskropd> nibbier: but yeah, i wouldnt be surprised if proprietary ssh existed
[21:25] <jagginess> kriskropd, lol
[21:25] <jagginess> kriskropd, for years ..
[21:25] <nibbier> kriskropd, i did never say "no routers support ssh" or anything like that. just that plenty of so called enterprise systems are still using ONLY telnet, while others (extreme networks eg) require a special license to enable ssh. no more no less, and thats a fact.
[21:25] <jagginess> nibbier, and you couldn't name any
[21:25] <kriskropd> jagginess: but clearly you wouldnt configure a router over telnet over an active network XD
[21:26] <zykotick9> kriskropd: openssh is free software from OpenBSD.  so being BSD licenses i guess a closed version could exist (i can't figure out why anyone would pay for a closed source SSH but whatever)
[21:26] <nibbier> jagginess, i can. extreme networks is licensed ssh, small hp switches, plenty of UPS network modules etc support telnet serial only
[21:26] <zak_> where are compilation error messages stored?
[21:26] <nibbier> kriskropd, if you run this kind of hardware you'd of course run a seperated management vlan or such
[21:27] <markovh> zak_: they aren't
[21:27] <kriskropd> zykotick9: i cant imagine why either, but if someone says it happens, hey, i won't argue
[21:27] <nibbier> kriskropd, jagginess: just google "extreme networks ssh license" and find tons of info....
[21:27] <zykotick9> zak_: if you compiling outside software, then check with that software if logs are created (i've never seen a compile log before, but they might be possible)
[21:27] <markovh> zak_: compilation of anything in particular you're talking about?
[21:28] <scant> jagginess, OK i see it, but i have no idea which one is the swap file. they're just numbed /sda whatever
[21:28] <scant> *numbered
[21:28] <jagginess> nibbier, telnet serial? that's a closed circuit wire.. you mean "console" cabling.. yes there are serial-console only links which is what's oftenly used with routing equipment.. case can be either on a local link or a networking link you can have a "telnet" session. The telnet session being referenced largely is over a network segment
[21:29] <nibbier> jagginess, sorry for missing the "and" in between serial and telnet
[21:30] <zak_> markovh: yes iam trying to compile the driver for  0bda:8176 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8188CUS 802.11n WLAN, which i downloaded , install kernel source, gcc but still got the error , jold on let me pastebin the error messages
[21:30] <kriskropd> nibbier: im not having luck finding the actual license agreement, but I believed you when you said proprietary forms of ssh existed, i've just never seen or heard of any
[21:30] <Cong> nibbier, my computer is rejecting telnet 127.0.0.1. But when I did telnet localhost it started connecting. What's the problem?
[21:30] <nibbier> cong: use ssh
[21:30] <Cong> nibbier, that's not the problem.
[21:31] <sts23> i installed ubuntu on vmware but the launchbar doesnt display
[21:31] <sts23> there is some display issue. i remember i had it last time i installed it but i forgot how i fixed it
[21:31] <nibbier> kriskropd, i could not find it either, but you find lots of info pointing to that. " Extreme Networks has enhanced its processes regarding SSH licensing" "SSH is now delivered and licensed on a serialized basis with a separate license key required to activate SSH on each Extreme Networks switch" " With 12.5.3.9 you have to get a license file to enable SSH, on single nodes ... 2012 Extreme Networks."
[21:31] <jagginess> kriskropd, gimme a break (i already said their name much earlier) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SecureCRT
[21:31] <kriskropd> nibbier: yeah i saw that xD
[21:32] <sts23> anyone?
[21:32] <kriskropd> jagginess: i came in after that I think
[21:32] <TJ-> Cong: That means that the entry in /etc/hosts for "localhost" may not point to 127.0.0.1 as it should, and you may therefore be connecting to another host or interface
[21:32] <kriskropd> jagginess: thats a client
[21:32] <zak_> markovh: http://pastie.org/5059018
[21:32] <nibbier> good night
[21:33] <scant> jagginess, i really shouldn't have to do all of this. i just need to know which partition between the two to enlarge
[21:33] <Cong> TJ-, ifconfig says lo is 127.0.0.1.
[21:33] <TJ-> Cong: "lo" is an interface name, not a hostname
[21:33] <jagginess> scant, show a picture or an fdisk -l of the partitions
[21:33] <jagginess> scant, you have what, 2 ntfs partitions? (resize the tail of the 2nd ntfs partition)
[21:33] <zak_> markovh:  am i missing something?
[21:34] <scant> i have a ext4 and an ntfs. the ext4 is labeled "ubuntu"
[21:34] <scant> and the other is labeled "files (3.2 gb)"
[21:34] <mrojas6996> Buenas! necesito una pequeña ayudita por acá
[21:34] <zykotick9> kriskropd: a closed source client isn't nearly as interesting as a closed-soruce implementation of SSH ;)
[21:35] <mrojas6996> Hello! i have a small problem with fstab
[21:35] <scant> jagginess, i would assume i should make the ntfs the larger one, but i have no idea how much space to give for the other one
[21:35] <Cong> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1280057/
[21:36] <jagginess> scant, well i need a topology.. a pic or something to know what you're resizing what/where/how ://.. it's not good to make a mistake here
[21:36] <TJ-> zak_: You are apparently building for OpenSuse, not Ubuntu ( see "/usr/src/linux-3.4.11-2.16-obj" )
[21:36] <oznt> hi everyone, i desperately need help with connection to Citrix client with ubuntu
[21:36] <oznt> does some one have experience with it?
[21:36] <TJ-> Cong: Then something is wrong with your system then, if you can't connect to 127.0.0.1 but can to localhost.
[21:37] <mrojas6996> I had 2 SWAP partitions duplicated by accidentally, when i delete the 2nd swap partition, FSTAB show an error with a UUID missing
[21:37] <mrojas6996> that is the 2nd SWAP partition that i delete
[21:37] <scant> jagginess, sorry i got DC'ed. if you posted a reply i didn't see it
[21:38] <TJ-> mrojas6996: Correct the UUID mentioned in fstab, to be the UUID of the remaining swap partition
[21:38] <jagginess> oznt, you should contact citrix, that's quite commercial, this pops up in my google search, perhaps they offer free downloads to legacy stuff if you inherited an out-of-warranty equipment
[21:38]  * zykotick9 thinks using LABELS (can even be applied to swap partitions!) is WAY easier then using UUIDs...
[21:38] <jagginess> oznt, ( http://www.citrix.com/downloads/citrix-receiver/legacy-client-software/receiver-for-linux-120.html )
[21:39] <jagginess> zykotick9, uuid is still better for that too.. the default installer uses uuid with swap and /
[21:39] <Tdaug> clear
[21:39] <jagginess> scant, well i need a topology.. a pic or something to know what you're resizing what/where/how ://.. it's not good to make a mistake here
[21:39] <mrojas6996> TJ-: Wow thanks for replying so fast :D , but how i know what is the correct UUID to correct?
[21:40] <jagginess> mrojas6996, well you didnt install ubuntu :).. the installer sets the uuid
[21:40] <Tdaug> Is there a way to map "Workspace Switcher" to my Windows key?
[21:40] <zak_> markovh: sorry i was disconnected did you get my pastebin link ?
[21:40] <jagginess> Tdaug, yes
[21:40] <jagginess> Tdaug, problem is there's too many ways to do it :/
[21:40] <Tdaug> jagginess: how?
[21:41] <Tdaug> jagginess:  What's the best way?
[21:41] <jagginess> Tdaug, (there's many references online, you'll have to find the best way :/, it may also depend on other factors if you're succesful or not-- this can be a very long problem if its not succesful at first)
[21:41] <mrojas6996> no no, i have Lubuntu 12.04 installed, but i had a 2nd SWAP partition that i delete with GParted in a LiveCD
[21:42] <jagginess> Tdaug, the best way is anything closest that runs on your current desktop, so if you use gnome, try keyboard settings (i'll find the menu item)
[21:42] <Tdaug> jagginess:  Thanks.  Looks like I've got some googling to do :)
[21:42] <mrojas6996> sorry my english is experimental
[21:44] <mrojas6996> the uuid of the deleted partition with gparted is in my fstab file, an i wanna to know how to update this file for the error diappears
[21:44] <TJ-> mrojas6996: "sudo blkid  /dev/sda5" (if sda5 is the remaining swap partition)
[21:44] <KRomeleoN> somehow my os drive is sdb and my secondary drive is sda, any wayto change that?
[21:45] <mrojas6996> I have Windows 7 with Lubuntu without a dedicated partition of /home
[21:45] <Beastie> Hello all I'm going to snap if I can't figure out how to install this ubuntu power pc
[21:45] <Beastie> It's like everything I do fails
[21:45] <Beastie> I try to boot from cd and then the screen turns white a little file folder pops up
[21:46] <zykotick9> Beastie: i take it you are using old mac hardware?  you do understand what powerpc is right?
[21:46] <zak_> iam trying to compile the driver for  0bda:8176 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8188CUS 802.11n WLAN, which i downloaded , install kernel source, gcc but still got the error http://pastie.org/5059018  am i missing something?
[21:46] <Beastie> boot cd:,\install\yaboot can't OPEN cd
[21:46] <gordonjcp> Beastie: are you sure about those backslashes?
[21:46] <gordonjcp> Beastie: that looks wrong
[21:47] <Beastie> boot cd1:,\installyaboot can't OPEN ide0/@1:9,\\:tbxi
[21:47] <Beastie> hang on maybe I'm just dumb
[21:47] <alusion> I want a way to download google images faster, what can I do? Or is there a way to change menu options upon right click?
[21:47] <zykotick9> zak_: don't expect a huge reply.  compiling outside drivers is OT in #ubuntu, does realtek have a support channel?  (PS don't reply to me, i won't see it)
[21:47] <alusion> Also I want to highlight - instant copy
[21:48] <Beastie> NOTHING ever works
[21:48] <Beastie> zykotick9: yes old hardware
[21:48] <infectedorganism> quick question: bored, about to install lubuntu 12.10 beta 2. i know the final is set to be released in a few days, but if I install beta 2, will update manager give me the updates over the next few days to essentially make it 12.10 final?
[21:48] <jagginess> alusion, cant. the webpage can have javascript to prevent doing ctl-c or can change the context menu to disable 'copy image'
[21:48] <Tdaug> jagginess:  Is there a specific command i can map to the windows key which will act as if i clicked the "Workspace switcher" icon in the launcher?
[21:48] <zykotick9> infectedorganism: #ubuntu+1 for any 12.10 questions/discussion
[21:49] <infectedorganism> thanks, zykotick9.
[21:49] <jagginess> Tdaug, yeah.. i was digging about an alternative item here, i'm looking for something
[21:49] <zykotick9> infectedorganism: BUT see "/msg ubottu final"
[21:49] <Beastie> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/powerpc/ch05s01.html
[21:49] <Beastie> I did exactly what it said to do
[21:49] <jagginess> Tdaug, you may be able to disable the superkey for the menu with the help of gconf-editor (google that), and then use that superkey for something.. you definitely dont want the superkey overimposing doing 2 things at once
[21:49] <kriskropd> zykotick9: //leave
[21:50] <jagginess> Tdaug, (i'm looking to see if there's something better atm-- also for my own use)
[21:50] <Beastie> No matter what powerpc distro I use something ALWAYS fails.
[21:50] <yakster> hi all….. i need some help, prehaps somone is smarter then i…
[21:51] <Beastie> BSD locks during boot at a certain point, openbsd won't boot, debian powerpc does the same as ubuntu
[21:51] <mrojas6996> TJ-: and if I edit the FSTAB file and I delete the line of the inexistent "/dev/sda7", the error fixes?
[21:51] <yakster> doing a lshw -class network , says network is disabled… how do I enable
[21:51] <jagginess> Tdaug, i'll pm you in 15 mins.. (busy at smthing)
[21:51] <jagginess> (but i think the superkey bound to menu can be disabled via gconf-editor)
[21:51] <zykotick9> yakster: is it a portable?  is there a hardware-type switch?
[21:52] <yakster> portable yes, but runniong as a music brains postgre-sql svr, no wireless…
[21:52] <TJ-> mrojas6996: If the fstab refers to the swap partition by device-name, not UUID, you can correct the device name instead of using UUID. If you're unsure, pastebin the entire fstab for me
[21:53] <mrojas6996> ok
[21:54] <mrojas6996> TJ-: this is my FSTAB file http://pastebin.com/itT6Gs5Q
[21:54] <yakster> nm, i was looking for eth0, its eth1
[21:54] <froylan> hi! anyone with kubuntu?
[21:54] <Strav`> Hi! I'm wondering: is there any way to turn off the "more suggestions" in the dash's applications lens?
[21:54] <max731> ciao a tutti
[21:54] <max731> !list
[21:55] <Beastie> ahhh shit!
[21:55] <froylan> what?
[21:55] <Beastie> This powerpc install doesn't work at all.
[21:55] <mrojas6996> my partitions: Extended /dev/sda3 Lubuntu and Home /dev/sda5 the swap: /dev/sda6
[21:56] <Beastie> The mac osx cd boots just fine.
[21:56] <Beastie> But it's old and outdated
[21:56] <jagginess> Tdaug, found it
[21:56] <mrojas6996> the nonexistent partition would be /dev/sda7
[21:56] <jagginess> Tdaug, you there?
[21:57] <TJ-> mrojas6996: OK, thanks. Yes, you can delete the comment and its following line that refers to sda7
[21:57] <froylan> Beastie i have no idea what is happening, any more info?
[21:57] <Tdaug> jagginess:  yep.  right here :)
[21:57] <Beastie> hang on I will explain
[21:57] <mrojas6996> TJ-: Thank you So much! Muchisimas gracias!, me has ayudado enormemente :D
[21:57] <TJ-> mrojas6996: lines beginning "#" are comments. The line that does it is "UUID=bd865ca8-3e96-43ca-8141-26ebccc55fbd ..."
[21:58] <jagginess> Tdaug, (currently seeing on my debian system, pretty sure the ubuntu one is in the same location-- it's systemsettings/Regional and Language, -- chose the 'Layouts' tab-- I've looked at this in ubuntu last week but it may slightly be in a differnt submenu--i'm booting my ubuntu vm)
[21:58] <mrojas6996> TJ-: I delete the comment and the UUID
[21:58] <Beastie> boot cd:,\install\yaboot can't OPEN: cd:,\install\yaboot
[21:58] <mrojas6996> is good?
[21:58] <jagginess> Tdaug, navigate to that
[21:59] <jagginess> Tdaug, systemsettings?
[21:59] <froylan> Beastie ever tried sudo or doing it manually in terminal?
[22:00] <Tdaug> jagginess:  Keyboard layout?  There's no Regional and Language.
[22:00] <Titomen> nibbier: before i do the complete reinstallation, i am trying to understand the rest of options, 1st how can or cani check all the partitions form initramsf
[22:00] <jagginess> Tdaug, there's actually 2 very distant keyboard settings under gnome
[22:00] <Beastie> froylan:  trying what manually?
[22:00] <Beastie> how would I be able to access a terminal?  I'm in open firmware and can't get to anything
[22:00] <Titomen> nibbier: trying to add sdb1 to md0 it says no such directory...i am not talkj g about md2, but md0 or md1 or md3
[22:01] <jagginess> Tdaug, it's not the one with the common keyboard shortcuts
[22:01] <Tdaug> jagginess: where is the other one?
[22:01] <jagginess> Tdaug, i'm going to make a feature request to simplify those two distant settings for the keyboard -- (hopefully you can join me)(i blame the gnome developers, it's not ubuntu's fault)
[22:01] <froylan> i don't know beastie, let me ask my google buddy
[22:02] <Beastie> okie
[22:02] <Tdaug> jagginess:  alright.  but for now, where can I go to do this?
[22:03] <jagginess> Tdaug, systemtools/systemsettings/langsupport ..
[22:04] <jagginess> Tdaug, if you look at 'Keyboard input method system' that can be a factor
[22:05] <jagginess> Tdaug, now i'm not sure, but i'm guessing that if its set to 'none' then the old ways of X (like xmerge and Xresources) would apply with xbindkeys
[22:05] <jagginess> Tdaug, you'd like to avoid doing the old X ways, and instead do the new Gnome ways
[22:05] <Tdaug> jagginess:  it's set to none, and I only have 3 choices.
[22:05] <jagginess> Tdaug, so best bet is stick with anything gnome..
[22:05] <jwaffe> I was wondering if somebody could help me get the grub I installed with ubuntu to recognize my new arch linux partition, I installed Grub on arch linux as specified, but the grub menu doesn't show anything other than ubuntu and my windows partitions.
[22:05] <jagginess> Tdaug, 11.10 or 12.04?
[22:06] <froylan> hmm try using a live CD of linux and simulating boot inside your hard drive, that's all i can think of beastie, sorry i am a noob
[22:06] <Tdaug> jagginess:  12.04
[22:06] <Nine_9> just installed chromium... man! what a pile of sheesh that webstore. too much quantity, almost no quality. most things there are just links. Uninstalled it already :)
[22:06] <zykotick9> jwaffe: try "sudo update-grub" and see if you see arch in the output, if you do, reboot
[22:06] <Beastie> froylan:  thanks man...jeeze this is nuts!  I don't understand how this is so damn hard
[22:06] <Cong> Now it's connecting to 127.0.0.1 fine. It was using ipv6 but I changed that and now it's fine.
[22:06] <jwaffe> I'll try that zykotick9
[22:07] <Nine_9> the worst thing is that the google search language is defined from the IP and there's no easy way to change that... what a stupidity! So if i'm in china, they assume i speak chinese? dumb browser it is
[22:07] <froylan> Beastie: i think it is hard because you have to basically recreate some scripts
[22:08] <Cong> If you're in China I would naturally thin were Chinese.
[22:08] <Nine_9> it should at least ask before making stupid assumptions.
[22:08] <Tdaug> jagginess:  I can chose, under "Keyboard input method system", either 'none', 'ibus', 'lo-gtk', or 'th-gtk'
[22:08] <sts23> no one can help me out?
[22:08] <jwaffe> @zykotick0 -- it found two linux images so it seems that it would be correct, with different versions of vmlinuz
[22:09] <jwaffe> *@xykotick9
[22:09] <jwaffe> restarting now
[22:10] <jagginess> Tdaug, dude.. also the 'Layout's tab (is different than debian :))-- this is found in Keyboard Layout of that mutiple icon window--- be sure to check the 'Options' button
[22:10] <jwaffe> no luck, xykotick9, it still only shows ubuntu and windows
[22:10] <jagginess> Tdaug, this too
[22:11] <jagginess> Tdaug, do you see the win/alt behaviour item listed?
[22:11] <actionParsnip> Nine_9: use duckduckgo and it doesn't do that
[22:11] <Tdaug> jagginess:  where is the options button?
[22:11] <jagginess> Tdaug, location where the 'language' icon is, there'll be near it, the keyboard layout icon
[22:12] <sts23> the launcher on the left doesnt display properly. it shows black when i hover over it
[22:12] <jwaffe> it could be worth noting that osprober can find the partition
[22:12] <jagginess> Tdaug, (not 'keyboard' but 'keyboard layout' icon-- it would be under the 'Personal' section)
[22:12] <actionParsnip> Nine_9: simple really
[22:12] <Tdaug> jagginess:  yes.  alt/win key is set to default right now.
[22:12] <jagginess> Tdaug, so thre's actually 3 locations for keyboard settings in gnome.. it's sickening confusing..
[22:13] <Nine_9> actionParsnip: duckduckngo seems quite nice
[22:13] <Tdaug> jagginess:  What do I do now?  under "Alt/Win key behavior"?
[22:13] <actionParsnip> Nine_9: its more powerful than google, you can tweak sources and organise by date added etc, no such feature in crappy google
[22:14] <actionParsnip> Nine_9: plus, no bubble and no tracking
[22:14] <jagginess> Tdaug, you may want to ask in #gnome or a mailing list, what to use to make sure it is the gnome desktop setting 100% the behaviour for the superkey
[22:14] <Nine_9> actionParsnip: nice. thank you. I'ma add it in my firefox search bar
[22:14] <Beastie> Well I guess I'll install mac osx panther then try to install a linux distro somehow ???
[22:14] <jagginess> Tdaug, (for that 'keyboard input method system')
[22:14] <jagginess> Tdaug, or you'll have to experiment :/
[22:14] <Tdaug> jagginess:  So, ask in #Gnome?
[22:15] <jagginess> Tdaug, but try to stay away from anything with x resource (old unix ways)
[22:15] <jagginess> Tdaug, yeah.. cuse i dont know and doubt anybody else does :/
[22:15] <actionParsnip> Nine_9: as you use it you'll realise it's power. try:   !ppa firefox     ;)
[22:15] <Tdaug> jagginess:  OK :)
[22:16] <Tdaug> jagginess:  I may need to take up OS hacking to make this work just the way I want it too XD
[22:16] <simplew> in grub /boot/grub/grub.cfg the windows entry has some kind of UUID that is not listed in blkid, can anyone tell me from where it comes?
[22:16] <Nine_9> actionParsnip: wow! amazing! :)
[22:16] <actionParsnip> Nine_9: exactly
[22:16] <actionParsnip> Nine_9: so much power, people just seem to run to google
[22:16] <actionParsnip> Nine_9: lots more bang syntaxes
[22:17] <actionParsnip> Nine_9: tonnes of power
[22:17] <jwaffe> hmm... would it be a good idea to change the OS to boot to default to the arch linux partition to see if it would possibly recognize it then?
[22:17] <simplew> in /boot/grub/grub.cfg in the windows entry i see "  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  46621DBF621DB4A1"    but the  46621DBF621DB4A1  is not listed from blkid, can anyone tell me from where it comes?
[22:17] <jwaffe> I guess it couldn't hurt
[22:18] <Nine_9> actionParsnip: google is getting worse. already remove it from my search engines :)
[22:18] <DaemonicApathy> I just experienced some window warping, immediately followed by Windows crashing in a virtual environment. Since it was the virtual container's border that shifted, does an overworked processor make sense as a guess to the cause?
[22:18] <simplew> ups, sorry, its the UUID from the windows boot partition
[22:18] <actionParsnip> Nine_9: you can search google with it using:  !g
[22:18] <actionParsnip> Nine_9: and google images with !gi
[22:18] <k1l> seems like we need #duckduckgo-commercial :)
[22:18] <actionParsnip> Nine_9: also search youtube with !yt    and google maps with !maps   and wikipedia with !wiki
[22:19] <Nine_9> actionParsnip: nice
[22:19] <Juze> ed
[22:19] <jrib> actionParsnip: !i is shorter than !gi :D
[22:19] <gaelan>  Why is it that everytime I try to setup ssh, I get an error message telling me  to setup service(8) instead?
[22:19] <actionParsnip> jrib: ahhh, wasn't ware of that
[22:19] <jwaffe> seemed to be ineffective, "activate a grub2 repository to use this as a grub partition)
[22:19] <actionParsnip> its just better imo
[22:19] <jagginess> Tdaug, are you trying to remap the superkey ? (i'm not sure if you disable the superkey via gconf-editor you'd be able to still map it to something else)
[22:20] <DaemonicApathy> actionParsnip: Where are you talking about entering these searches?
[22:20] <jagginess> Tdaug, you can try things, but if you're stuck on it like a long time, i'd say (dont'! it's not worth it:)
[22:20] <gaelan>  Why is it that everytime I try to setup ssh, I get an error message telling me  to setup service(8) instead?
[22:20] <Tdaug> jagginess:  Yeah.  I wanted to remap it (since I rarely use keyboard shortcuts anyway) to that specific process.
[22:21] <jrib> gaelan: pastebin
[22:21] <zykotick9> jwaffe: if you can't boot arch - i'd try arch's irc channel (see "/msg ubottu alis" for info on searching for channels on freenode)
[22:21] <jwaffe> hmm, ok, thanks
[22:21] <jagginess> Tdaug, remap to what process?
[22:21] <Tdaug> opening the GUI for switching desktops..
[22:22] <jagginess> Tdaug, you mean hitting the winkey alone does something like alt-tab ?
[22:22] <Tdaug> yeah.
[22:23] <_cronus_> jwaffe: try sudo grub-install /dev/sda changing this to fit your drive
[22:24] <gaelan> jrib, "Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8)"
[22:24] <gaelan> utility, e.g. service ssh start
[22:24] <gaelan> Since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an
[22:24] <gaelan> Upstart job, you may also use the start(8) utility, e.g. start ssh
[22:24] <Tdaug> jagginess:  the little launcher you hit to get to where the screen is divided into 4 desktops.  that's what i wanted Winkey to do.
[22:24] <zykotick9> _cronus_: if jwaffe can boot ubuntu, that's not really the issue... just sayin'
[22:24] <_cronus_> jwaffe: or sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc
[22:24] <gaelan> jrib the whole message error log.
[22:25] <jagginess> Tdaug, not sure if that's possible, also i'm not sure if that's part of gnome3 or a unity specific thing
[22:25] <k1l> Tdaug: just press super+s
[22:25] <jagginess> Tdaug, so if it's unity specific then #gnome wouldn't know
[22:25] <k1l> Tdaug: super means the winkey
[22:26] <Tdaug> jagginess:  according to k1l, super+s does what I'm trying to do.
[22:26] <jagginess> Tdaug, (yeah what k1l says), if you see something 'super' in settings, that means the winblozelogokey :)
[22:26] <k1l> Tdaug: why not using super+s?
[22:27] <_cronus_> zykotick9: true, but i understood he wanted ubuntu's bootloader to be able to find another os. could have been windows...
[22:27] <Titomen> i need some guidance...before i do the hard work of reinstalling everything i need to understand why on the md0 i cannot add sdb1..please help http://picpaste.com/2012-10-14_18-23-44_705-hC9Bf3pX.jpg
[22:27] <k1l> Tdaug: binding only super will ruin all the other hotkeys
[22:27] <Tdaug> k1l:  That works.  Thanks! :)
[22:27] <k1l> Tdaug: press the super key long to get a map of the hotkeys
[22:27] <jrib> gaelan: you should use a pastebin (and include what you ran to get the error) so you don't flood the channel.  This channel isn't a pastebin.  What command did you execute?
[22:27] <jagginess> Tdaug, well i have no idea which gnome desktop you were using or what you wanted to remap, but as you can see there's those 3 locations, you can tinker quite alot
[22:28] <zykotick9> _cronus_: they've already run "sudo update-grub" and it doesn't find arch?
[22:28] <k1l> jagginess: the problem is resolved
[22:28] <mollusk> Does anyone know of a good program that would allow me to switch between two different computers with 1 monitor?
[22:28] <Tdaug> jagginess:  Yes.  there's certainly a lot of tinkering to be done with Ubuntu.  Considering i was a windows user just the day before yesterday, it's quite a relief that it's so customizable :)
[22:29] <jagginess> mollusk, you need a hardware kvm switch
[22:29] <_cronus_> zykotick9: i thought it found it
[22:29] <zykotick9> _cronus_: nope.  but i guess osprober does?
[22:29] <jagginess> mollusk, if you have two monitors side-by-side, then synergy works incredibly well (be it win/mac/linux)
[22:30] <_cronus_> zykotick9: osprober is called by update-grub, isn't it?
[22:30] <mollusk> jagginess, I figured I would need a switch of some sort. Oh well, yeah synergy is awesome.
[22:30] <zykotick9> _cronus_: "I" thought so... ;)
[22:30] <mollusk> jagginess, Thanks
[22:30] <jagginess> mollusk, if you're not doing video editing stuff on one computer, then access it remotely
[22:30] <jagginess> mollusk, you can remote desktop windows or linux these days from either Os
[22:31] <jagginess> mollusk, the problem with kvm switches is that they don't always work with all keyboard/mice
[22:31] <_cronus_> zykotick9: but AFAIK update-grub doesn't install the bootloader
[22:32] <k1l> _cronus_: it doesnt insatll
[22:32] <zykotick9> _cronus_: it DOESN'T install it, only updates it
[22:32] <k1l> it only updates the config files
[22:32] <jagginess> mollusk, also, you might get a ghosting effect if you use one with the kvm vga extension cable -- so this is trial and error
[22:32] <k1l> that is why its called update and not install :)
[22:33] <mollusk> jagginess, I will probably just use teamviewer .
[22:33] <CrawfordComeaux> I want to upgrade a 10.04 LTS VM to precise, but when I try it on a test VM, grub always gets mucked up and I wind up in grub rescue (which no grub rescue guides have helped get me past). Any suggestions either on how to preserve grub in the upgrade or recover?
[22:33] <zykotick9> _cronus_: sorry you said "doesn't" my bad
[22:33] <jagginess> mollusk, that would likely be slower :)
[22:34] <mollusk> jagginess, Not slower than some of the vnc tools I have used but I suppose since this will be a local ip I will get less delay out of a local standard vnc connection.
[22:35] <mollusk> jagginess, teamviewer will have to route through to internet and back if I am not mistaken
[22:35] <zykotick9> CrawfordComeaux: i've seen many people complaining about going from 10.04->12.04 be SURE you know what your getting into before you start.  best of luck.
[22:36] <deb> hi, it seems like firefox takes ages opening pages with htpps protocol, but also other pages... help?
[22:36] <jagginess> mollusk, probably.. i read some of them take a shortcut route if you're not going an internet connection
[22:36] <Titomen> any help
[22:36] <CrawfordComeaux> complaining about the process or some issue they have w/12.04 afterward?
[22:37] <jagginess> mollusk, www.nomachine.com/select-package.php?os=linux&id=1
[22:37] <deb> i run ff16 on ubuntu 10.04 and firefox takes ages opening https protocolled pages and also others? ideas? help^
[22:39]  * jagginess :)
[22:39] <zykotick9> deb: if firefox16 offered from default 10.04 repos?
[22:39] <zykotick9> deb: s/if/is/
[22:39] <deb> in the backports
[22:39] <zykotick9> deb: nice.  well good luck - i got NOTHING
[22:40] <ubuntu_2> jakis polak ?
[22:40] <OerHeks> !pl | ubuntu_2
[22:41] <Lockscreen> how to speak of myself in third person like some guys do? ex: * Lockscreen is doing smthng
[22:41] <sdollins> Is it possible to download 12.10 RC?
[22:41] <k1l> sdollins: there is no RC. use a daily if you want one iso
[22:41] <zykotick9> Lockscreen: "/me foo" but don't use it too much ;)
[22:41] <OerHeks> sdollins, no, there is no RC, just the Beta 2
[22:41] <k1l> Lockscreen: use /me , but dont use this channel for testing :)
[22:42] <sdollins> Well that explains why I couldn't find it. :)
[22:42] <Lockscreen> thanks
[22:43] <[1001]> I am trying to get my Ruby on Rails application working and installing RMagic gem. But I get an error that says "Can't install RMagick 2.13.1. Can't find the ImageMagick library or one of the dependent libraries." Altough I have ImageMagick installed with its dependences. (terminal log http://pastebin.com/vcgkbwZR )
[22:43] <cherry> anyone know a fast way to copy an SD card to another SD card in Ubuntu?
[22:44] <jagginess> cherry, yeah
[22:44] <jagginess> cherry, make your new partition on the target with gparted live cd.. then use copy and paste with the gparted live cd :)
[22:44] <jagginess> cherry, (it's that simple)
[22:45] <zykotick9> cherry: "sudo cp -rv /path/to/sd1 /path/to/sd2" but don't expect fast with SD cards (that are probably connected to USB)
[22:45] <jagginess> cherry, dont need to use dd or any dump cli commands
[22:45] <cherry> that simple ha
[22:45] <cherry> ok, I have a demo tomorrow and I have to copy this SD card on to 3 other SD cards
[22:45] <cherry> here goes.
[22:45] <jagginess> cherry, yeah.. so lets say your sd source partition is ext4.. then simply make your new ext4 partition on your new card.. (I'm hoping they're both mounted at the same time?)
[22:45] <sahu> sahu
[22:45] <jagginess> cherry, if not, then i can tell you how to mount a loopback image
[22:46] <nsahoo> I can't seem to get any audio from my pci sound card. The onboard sound works fine.
[22:46] <cherry> I only have one SD card drive
[22:46] <sts23> http://i.imgur.com/C5HJv.png after i log in
[22:46] <jagginess> cherry, ok
[22:46] <sts23> how do i fix it?
[22:46] <nsahoo> how can I troubleshoot?
[22:46] <zykotick9> cherry: so first copy teh origional SD card to you HD, then "image" from there.
[22:47] <cherry> right give me a moment.
[22:47] <jagginess> cherry, so use a ubuntu desktop, make a raw image use -> cat /dev/<SDCARD>   >  ~/mysdcard.bin    (and pm me, i can easily tell you how to mount the parition within the image)
[22:47] <sahu> i bought samsung printer ML2161 but it runs on windows driver now i use
[22:47] <cherry> ok, let me do a raw image first
[22:47] <cherry> to be on the safe side
[22:48] <sahu> how to install printer driver
[22:48] <cherry> jagginess,
[22:48] <jagginess> cherry, ok
[22:48] <cherry> the issue is there are two drives on the SD card
[22:48] <jagginess> cherry, and not the partition, but the whole sd card drive
[22:48] <cherry> two partitions rather
[22:49] <jagginess> cherry, do the whole drive, unless you know what the other partition is
[22:49] <jagginess> cherry, what are the two partitions ?
[22:49] <cherry> they are both under /dev
[22:49] <cherry> one labelled sdb1
[22:49] <jagginess> cherry, ???
[22:49] <cherry> the other sdb2
[22:49] <jagginess> cherry, you sound uncertain, just cat the whole drive
[22:50] <OerHeks> sahu, samsung is good supported, my samsung 1650 works out of the box
[22:50] <cherry> I am uncertain, don't want to lose the data :-)
[22:50] <jagginess> cherry, cat /dev/sdb > ~/mysdcard.bin
[22:50] <overclucker> cherry: dd if=/dev/sdb of=sdcard.img
[22:50] <jagginess> overclucker, that'll be slow, he'll have to include bigger bs= sizes etc..
[22:51] <sts23> ?
[22:52] <cherry> doing raw copies now
[22:52] <cherry> problem is I now have two partitions
[22:52] <OerHeks> sahu, see driver section >> http://www.samsung.com/in/support/model/ML-2161/XIP-downloads# Linux 4.00.35 Print Driver 2011.10.19 MULTI LANGUAGE 43.5 MB
[22:52] <cherry> how do I get these to appear on the new SD card
[22:52] <cherry> rather overwriting the previous image
[22:53] <ibere_fernandes> quit
[22:53] <jagginess> cherry, pm me
[22:53] <cherry> sure
[22:53] <cherry> sec
[22:53] <FlyingElvis> does xscreensavers still work for ubuntu with unity?
[22:53] <nsahoo> any help? I am getting no sound from the pci sound card
[22:54] <nsahoo> How do I begin to troubleshoot
[22:54] <jagginess> !sound
[22:55] <elb0w> Friend is having a problem getting 3 monitors to work. One is onboard and two are from nvidia card
[22:55] <elb0w> Any tips?
[22:55] <erkan^> is ubuntu 12.10 release on 18th October?
[22:56] <FlyingElvis> yes
[22:56] <KM0201> october sometime.
[22:56] <KM0201> those release dates always get pushed back.
[22:56] <zykotick9> nsahoo: i'd start by opening alsamixer from terminal, verify nothing is muted, or turned all the way down.  use F6 to change sound cards.
[22:56] <actionParsnip> erkan^: ask in #ubuntu+1
[22:56] <erkan^> i know it now, actionParsnip  :p
[22:56] <zykotick9> !schedule
[22:58] <erkan^> thank you, zykotick9 :)
[23:01] <zykotick9> KM0201: fyi, ubuntu is on a strict release schedule.  i believe only 1 release was delayed significantly.
[23:01] <zykotick9> KM0201: that produced a non-04or10 number ;)
[23:02] <KM0201> zykotick9: yeah.. i've saw release "dates" get pushed back before though...
[23:02] <KM0201> zykotick9: that would be 6.06 probably.. :)
[23:02] <KM0201> they still always hit in the right month though, i was just saying it's quite possible it could be released after the 18th.
[23:02] <zykotick9> KM0201: in the 3-4 years i used ubuntu, i never saw a late release
[23:03] <KM0201> i thought 11.04 got pushed back a few days, as did 11.10... i could be wrong though
[23:03] <OerHeks> I saw once, that the image was rejected and came 6 hrs later
[23:03] <zykotick9> OerHeks: lol 6hrs is NOT late ;)
[23:03] <OerHeks> True, not days.
[23:04] <k1l> its not released at 0:01 at 18th but in the late afternoon. but its nothing compared to the delays in other big projects
[23:04] <zykotick9> k1l: other projects has quality control issues - ubuntu typically doesn't
[23:06] <BluntMasta>  i tried to install cmake via "sudo apt-get install cmake" and it gave me this error
[23:06] <BluntMasta> : Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (2: No such file or directory)
[23:06] <BluntMasta> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[23:06] <BluntMasta> ?
[23:07] <zykotick9> BluntMasta: are you sure you used sudo?  that error seems to say you didn't.
[23:07] <OerHeks> Do you have softwarecentre open too, BluntMasta ?
[23:07] <zykotick9> OerHeks: you're right "could not lock"  my bad.
[23:08] <BluntMasta> i am running,
[23:08] <BluntMasta> ubuntu
[23:08] <BluntMasta> vps
[23:08] <BluntMasta> unrealircd,
[23:08] <BluntMasta> and anope-1.9.7
[23:09] <zykotick9> BluntMasta: see "/msg ubottu pm".  yes i'm one of "those" people that consider PMs rude without checking first.  best of luck with your issue, don't reply to me - i won't see it.
[23:10] <pudish> Hello, world!
[23:10] <zykotick9> pudish: bad start ;)  see "/msg ubottu ask" and look for a private message from ubuntu, about forming questions.  best of luck!
[23:11] <zykotick9> s/ubuntu/ubottu/
[23:11] <Biomechd> so i installed blender from the "irie" ppa and now i can't open it. any ideas?
[23:11] <Biomechd> also, it might be worth saying that the application filename is blender-bin+svn#####
[23:12] <k1l> Biomechd: best try is to ask the ppa guys what they did wrong
[23:12] <zykotick9> Biomechd: good luck.  BUT techincally PPAs aren't supported here (they shouldn't be considered stable/or even working...)
[23:12] <BluntMasta> zykotick9
[23:12] <BluntMasta> what to perform first
[23:12] <Biomechd> so where do i go for the guys who handle ppas?
[23:13] <creede> Biomechd, try running your app under strace (e.g. strace blender) to see if you get any coherent error messages about why it won't work. Warning: You'll get a LOT of messages.
[23:13] <zykotick9> Biomechd: look on the launchpad/ppa page.  i doubt you'll find much/any support.
[23:13] <Biomechd> zykotick9, i was hoping they'd have an irc channel that i could go to while i'm here.
[23:14] <zykotick9> Biomechd: read "/msg ubottu ppa" for confirmation on what i'm saying.  USE at your own risk.
[23:14] <BluntMasta> what do i do
[23:14] <BluntMasta> then
[23:14] <BluntMasta> ?
[23:14] <k1l> Biomechd: look at the launchpad page where you got that link from and take a look if they have a own page or if the maintainers put an irc nick into their profile
[23:15] <OerHeks> Do you have softwarecentre open too, BluntMasta ?
[23:15] <BluntMasta> whats that?
[23:16] <BluntMasta> this is a help room
[23:16] <BluntMasta> suppost to help the needed
[23:16] <Biomechd> ubuntu software center, BluntMasta
[23:16] <BluntMasta> come on
[23:16] <OerHeks> BluntMasta, close it, and try terminal again ...
[23:16] <BluntMasta> i have
[23:16] <BluntMasta> 4 times
[23:16] <k1l> BluntMasta: if you freak out and annoy the user here you wont get more help. so keep calm
[23:17] <actionParsnip> !aptfix | BluntMasta
[23:17] <BluntMasta> fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[23:17] <BluntMasta> ??
[23:18] <BluntMasta> whats it do
[23:18] <BluntMasta> ?
[23:18] <actionParsnip> BluntMasta: yes run it in a terminal
[23:18] <actionParsnip> BluntMasta: it frees up the packages
[23:18] <BluntMasta> k
[23:18] <BluntMasta> Specified filename /var/lib/dpkg/lock does not exist.
[23:18] <BluntMasta> dpkg: error: unable to access dpkg status area: No such file or directory
[23:18] <BluntMasta> root@vps:/home/bluntmasta#
[23:18] <actionParsnip> BluntMasta: thats why its given in the factoid
[23:18] <k1l> the problem is he is using sudo as the root user
[23:19] <actionParsnip> BluntMasta: copy and paste the command
[23:19] <k1l> and is in the user home dir as root.
[23:19] <k1l> that is gonna be a problem of a server very soon
[23:19] <actionParsnip> BluntMasta: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[23:19] <BluntMasta> I did
[23:19] <BluntMasta> :(
[23:20] <BluntMasta> root@vps:/#
[23:20] <BluntMasta> im in root
[23:20] <BluntMasta> now
[23:20] <actionParsnip> BluntMasta: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[23:20] <BluntMasta> root@vps:/# lsb_release -sc
[23:20] <BluntMasta> precise
[23:20] <BluntMasta> root@vps:/#
[23:20] <actionParsnip> BluntMasta: is software centre open?
[23:21] <BluntMasta> what is that
[23:21] <BluntMasta> i dont use that stuff
[23:21] <BluntMasta> i want this error fixed.
[23:21] <actionParsnip> BluntMasta: the application people can use to install apps
[23:21] <actionParsnip> BluntMasta: do you use that?
[23:21] <Biomechd> blunt, the software center (centre in british english) is the GUI way of installing programs to ubuntu.
[23:21] <BluntMasta> i dont know the page
[23:21] <actionParsnip> BluntMasta: its not a page, its a program
[23:22] <BluntMasta> im in putty
[23:22] <k1l> he is on a vserver
[23:22] <BluntMasta> on my vps
[23:22] <actionParsnip> BluntMasta: yes but on the system you can use software centre
[23:22] <BluntMasta> ok telll me how to fix this error
[23:22] <BluntMasta> please,
[23:22] <k1l> BluntMasta: try "apt-get install cmake"
[23:23] <BluntMasta> root@vps:/# apt-get install cmake
[23:23] <BluntMasta> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (2: No such file or directory)
[23:23] <zykotick9> Biomechd: really?  even in canada i'm familiar with center, that's funny...  oh god, i'm slightly americanized</ot>
[23:23] <BluntMasta> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[23:23] <BluntMasta> root@vps:/#
[23:23] <actionParsnip> BluntMasta: please use a pastebin for multiple lines
[23:23] <BluntMasta> did u see error
[23:23] <actionParsnip> BluntMasta: fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;dpkg --configure -a
[23:23] <Biomechd> zykotick9, i think canada has some regions using british english and other regions using american english.
[23:24] <actionParsnip> BluntMasta: yes I saw THE error, but use a pastebin in future
[23:24] <BluntMasta> http://pastebin.com/W69NCrK8
[23:24] <BluntMasta> ^^
[23:24] <zykotick9> Biomechd: officially - british (or french in quebec) </really OT>
[23:24] <actionParsnip> BluntMasta: or run:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock; sudo dpkg --configure -a
[23:25] <BluntMasta> please tell me what it dose
[23:25] <BluntMasta> k?
[23:25] <Fudge> hi, wondering if anyone is aware of broadcom issues for precise, I have two machines with bcm and all I get is the password prompt then wireless disconnects, does not happen on non broadcom hardware
[23:25] <actionParsnip> BluntMasta: it frees up the packages by ending the process accessing the packages. Why do you care? It fixes you issue
[23:25] <actionParsnip> BluntMasta: k?
[23:25] <BluntMasta> k
[23:25] <mgodzilla> i got some 'home' movies that are in mpeg4 format...what app is recommended for dvd conversion/playback?
[23:25] <mgodzilla> mplayer?
[23:26] <BluntMasta> actionParsnip:
[23:26] <BluntMasta> http://pastebin.com/y8CzEU8P
[23:26] <actionParsnip> BluntMasta: why do you want an explanation. It fixes your issue. Do you REALLY want to know the exact thing it does and so forth?
[23:26] <sudokode> mgodzilla: ffmpeg for conversion, mplayer for playback
[23:26] <BluntMasta> http://pastebin.com/y8CzEU8P
[23:26] <OerHeks> mgodzilla, ffmpeg can convert, with winFF as a gui
[23:26] <mgodzilla> thanks guys :)
[23:27]  * zykotick9 believe ffmpeg might be deprecated for something else (that's in ubuntu repos)
[23:27] <sudokode> if you want a gui for video transcoding, use handbrake
[23:27] <zykotick9> sudokode: wrong direction!
[23:27] <mgodzilla> hmm...
[23:27] <sudokode> zykotick9: ?
[23:28] <BluntMasta> actionParsnip: whats next mate?
[23:28] <zykotick9> sudokode: they want mp4->dvd, not the other way round.
[23:28] <sudokode> oic. handbrake will do that
[23:28] <zykotick9> sudokode: really?
[23:28] <actionParsnip> BluntMasta: sudo cp /var/lib/dpkg/status-old /var/lib/dpkg/status
[23:29] <BluntMasta> k
[23:29] <BluntMasta> cp: cannot stat `/var/lib/dpkg/status-old': No such file or directory
[23:29] <BluntMasta> ^^
[23:29] <actionParsnip> BluntMasta: VPSes have a reputation for maessing with Ubuntu OSes and making them nearly unusable
[23:30] <actionParsnip> BluntMasta: *mssing
[23:30] <BluntMasta> k?
[23:30] <sudokode> oh, it only converts dvds to something else
[23:30] <zykotick9> sudokode: i have no MPEG2 output options in my handbrake?  YMMV?
[23:30] <box1> I can't get crontab to run stuff when I use */10 on the first row... it's suppose to run every 10 minutes but it doesn't
[23:30] <box1> the commands work fine when paste from crontab inside the command terminal and ran
[23:31] <zykotick9> sudokode: ;)
[23:31] <BluntMasta> actionParsnip: ?
[23:31] <box1> right now I'm testing if 0,10,20,30,40,50 will work
[23:31] <sudokode> box1: what are you trying to run
[23:31] <box1> a script
[23:31] <jrib> box1: "a script" is too vague.
[23:31] <box1> for all intents and purpose just imagine it echos hello world
[23:31] <box1> the script isn't the problem
[23:31] <gionny999> ciao a tutti
[23:31] <actionParsnip> BluntMasta: thats just a punctuation mark, it needs to be prefixed with a sentance to be of any value
[23:31] <jrib> box1: it probably is
[23:32] <sudokode> box1: could you post the exact line
[23:32] <gionny999> !list
[23:32] <BluntMasta> what do you mean?
[23:32] <box1> 0,10,20,30,40,50 * * * *        /var/www/stats/pisg --silent
[23:32] <sudokode> first column is seconds
[23:32] <actionParsnip> BluntMasta: you said "(00:31:14) BluntMasta: actionParsnip: ?"   which isn't anything at all, it's nonsensical
[23:33] <sudokode> oh no it's not
[23:33] <BluntMasta> how to fix my error?
[23:33] <sudokode> wait. god, I never remember cron's syntax
[23:33] <jrib> box1: note that this pisg script won't have the same environment that you have in your shell when you execute it manually (for example PATH will differ)
[23:33] <sudokode> yeah, minutes. ignore that
[23:33] <box1> jrib: why does it work when I paste /var/www/stats/pisg --select in the terminal
[23:33] <box1> from any directory
[23:33] <jrib> box1: see what I just wrote
[23:34] <box1> why won't it have that?
[23:34] <box1> I change nothing in PATH
[23:34] <jrib> box1: also, "select" is not the same as "silent"
[23:34] <box1> right I meant silent
[23:34] <zykotick9> box1: cron has a very limited environment, compared to your regular login.
[23:35] <actionParsnip> BluntMasta: wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpage; sudo ./fixpackage
[23:35] <box1> that's all very interesting
[23:35] <box1> so wtf do I do about it
[23:35] <BluntMasta> actionParsnip
[23:35] <BluntMasta> may i pm you
[23:35] <BluntMasta> ?
[23:35] <jrib> box1: because that's how cron works.  Your jobs aren't run in the same environment your user has after a login.  You should probably get rid of the --silent and redirect stdout and stderr somewhere.  You'll probably have a better idea of the issue
[23:35] <actionParsnip> BluntMasta: ask in here, more eyes =more support
[23:35] <BluntMasta> k
[23:36] <BluntMasta> what exactly is the wget for
[23:36] <BluntMasta> ??
[23:36] <box1> what is the command to run parts
[23:36] <box1> for execute cron to run i forget
[23:36] <sudokode> BluntMasta: man wget
[23:36] <mgodzilla> BluntMasta, quite a handle.
[23:36] <mgodzilla> XD
[23:37] <BluntMasta> actionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/i0N0mDG5
[23:37] <box1> hrm ok i see
[23:38] <k1l> BluntMasta: fixpackage, thats a typo
[23:38] <BluntMasta> ?
[23:38] <BluntMasta> k1l?
[23:38] <ahmedipa> I have question
[23:38] <k1l> cmon man, you got a server.
[23:38] <WeThePeople> is it possible to partition a hdd to a linuxEx4 without using a distro, right from the partition program and store files on that partition?
[23:39] <lelouch> Hello all i have a blue char while watchin youtube video ..
[23:39] <k1l> "chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage"
[23:39] <BluntMasta> i did what actionParsnip tole me
[23:39] <BluntMasta> !!
[23:39] <ahmedipa> why ubuntu12.04 always has a hung
[23:39] <ahmedipa> ??
[23:39] <BluntMasta> k1l how to fix it
[23:39] <BluntMasta> ?
[23:39] <lelouch> Hello all i have a blue char while watchin youtube video ... i found that is a flashplayer problem but i dunno how to fix it
[23:39] <k1l> lelouch: nvidia card falsh hw acc issue
[23:40] <k1l> *flash
[23:40] <WeThePeople> lelouch, what browser and distro?
[23:40] <BluntMasta> k1l
[23:40] <BluntMasta> how to fix it?
[23:40] <k1l> BluntMasta: yes
[23:40] <lelouch> WeThePeople: firefox 12.04
[23:41] <lelouch> k1l: was workin the problem started today
[23:41] <k1l> BluntMasta: could you pls start thinking? i mean you have a server which could be hacked in a second and you dont know nothing.
[23:41] <BluntMasta> my server is down
[23:41] <BluntMasta> for protection
[23:41] <k1l> BluntMasta: the command from actionParsnip had a typo in it, which i corrected
[23:41] <WeThePeople> lelouch, if you have tried diff, browsers and it is still a problem then uninstall flash and instead install ubuntu-restricted-extras in the soft center
[23:42] <k1l> BluntMasta: all information is given, scroll up and read again
[23:42] <BluntMasta> chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[23:42] <k1l> lelouch: hmm, did you change smth?
[23:42] <BluntMasta> ?
[23:42] <ahmedipa> how can I fix this hung in ubuntu12.04
[23:42] <BluntMasta> This ---> wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[23:42] <lelouch> WeThePeople: well the problem is only in firefox i tried chrumiom Works fine but i need it to fix the problem in fire fox
[23:43] <k1l> BluntMasta: no need for wget
[23:43] <k1l> BluntMasta: you got this file downloaded already
[23:43] <ahmedipa> it should there is task manager such as windows
[23:43] <lelouch> k1l: nothin ...
[23:43] <alusion_> Yo ubuntu my machine is currently frozen to all extent, I tried killing the processes taking the most memory, what else can I do?
[23:43] <BluntMasta> yes
[23:44] <BluntMasta> k1l: http://pastebin.com/9dLCW6Zq
[23:44] <BluntMasta> ^^
[23:44] <zykotick9> alusion_: you say it's "frozen" yet you can type commands?  can you reboot the system?
[23:44] <k1l> BluntMasta: remove the sudo and give it a try
[23:45] <BluntMasta> so i have to rm -rf the old one
[23:45] <k1l> BluntMasta: no
[23:45] <ahmedipa> alusion_: yes I can by press on the power
[23:45] <k1l> just remove the sudo from the commands and try again
[23:45] <BluntMasta> i have this folder [23:45] <BluntMasta> k
[23:45] <BluntMasta> same thing,
[23:45] <ahmedipa> alusion_: but I think this is not solve the frozen problem
[23:46] <k1l> BluntMasta: then contact your hoster
[23:46] <k1l> BluntMasta: there is smth really wrong with your server
[23:46] <BluntMasta> my host must not
[23:46] <BluntMasta> support
[23:46] <BluntMasta> cmake
[23:47] <ahmedipa> I thought that Linux OS without frozen problem
[23:47] <ahmedipa> I hope to type my name to indicate me
[23:47] <alusion_> zykotick9: I am currently in terminal, I guess i'll restart -.-
[23:47] <BluntMasta> k1l : whats another good service to use that offers, regexbans
[23:48] <alusion_> zykotick9: for future reference, ctrl alt f1-f6
[23:48] <k1l> BluntMasta: not cmake is not your problem.
[23:48] <k1l> a not working server is your problem
[23:48] <BluntMasta> k1l
[23:48] <BluntMasta> my server works
[23:48] <BluntMasta> !!
[23:48] <zykotick9> alusion_: fyi in VTs it's just alt+(f1-f6) ;)
[23:48] <BluntMasta> its just refusing
[23:48] <BluntMasta> that command
[23:48] <FloodBot1> BluntMasta: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:48] <BluntMasta> saying host blocked
[23:48] <zykotick9> alusion: or alt+(left/right arrow)
[23:49] <BluntMasta> fuck this network!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[23:49] <BluntMasta> fuck this network!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[23:49] <BluntMasta> fuck this network!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[23:49] <FloodBot1> BluntMasta: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:49] <k1l> BluntMasta: m(
[23:54] <dan_r0ck> All: Does anyone know how to setup 3 monitors (using a PCIe NVidia GTX555 card + onboard Intel HD GPU)? It works fine on Windows 7 but I can't use both GPUs on Ubuntu at once apparently...
[23:57] <OerHeks> dan_r0ck, did you set the onboard as primairy ?