| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1024951] New Activity widget misplaced @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1024951 (by Richard Sweeney) | 00:03 |
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| apachelogger | hooray | 01:18 |
| apachelogger | 2 hours of my life wasted thanks to shitty gnome middleware | 01:19 |
| apachelogger | woohooo | 01:19 |
| apachelogger | actually I am not even sure how that would be fixed | 01:26 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 01:26 |
| apachelogger | actually that api does not even make sense | 01:26 |
| * apachelogger ponders sending ossi to go after the author | 01:27 | |
| Techna_Rave_Pony | How would one update to the prerelease of quantal? | 06:45 |
| soee | update from ? | 06:49 |
| Techna_Rave_Pony | Precise | 06:49 |
| Techna_Rave_Pony | without a disk, I don't have a disk drive | 06:50 |
| soee | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/QuantalUpgrades/Kubuntu | 06:51 |
| Techna_Rave_Pony | thank you | 06:51 |
| Techna_Rave_Pony | upgrade should only take one to three hours at a decent connection speed, right? | 07:01 |
| valorie | Techna_Rave_Pony: it took me a couple of hours on a cable connection | 07:02 |
| valorie | not uber fast, but not dialup either | 07:02 |
| Techna_Rave_Pony | Rochester RoadRunner | 07:03 |
| Techna_Rave_Pony | Should be okay I think | 07:03 |
| Techna_Rave_Pony | good bye for now chaps | 07:03 |
| agateau | hi, wanted to finally update from precise to quantal, but "do-release-upgrade -d" tells me it can't find a new version. Is it a known bug? | 09:02 |
| StephanG | Hi guys, I've been on quantal since beta 1, and I've been noticing that plasma occasionally becomes unresponsive. Is this an issue with KDE, or Quantal specifically? | 09:05 |
| yofel_ | agateau: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/QuantalUpgrades/Kubuntu | 09:06 |
| StephanG | Thanks, I'll take a look. | 09:07 |
| StephanG | Oh, agateau... *Blushes* | 09:08 |
| yofel_ | heh | 09:10 |
| yofel_ | I personally don't have freezes in plasma unless I have a network drive mounted and the network goes down. The only freezes I get here are full system freezes -.- | 09:11 |
| StephanG | Well, it might just be my panels. But regardless, KRunner seems to be impervous to dying. Whenever anything goes down, it's always faithfully there to bail me out. | 09:14 |
| xnox | agateau: do you have settings set to "LTS only" in software sources / upgrade manager? | 09:25 |
| agateau | yofel_: looks like it's working, thanks! | 09:50 |
| agateau | xnox: yes, that was it | 09:50 |
| Riddell | agateau: yay, good luck with the upgrade | 10:11 |
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| * yofel_ found a reliable way to freeze plasma-netbook on his eeePC | 11:02 | |
| yofel_ | open the i386 live disk on a netbook, run the live session and click on 'Page one'. -> plasma-netbook sits there unresponsive with 100% CPU | 11:03 |
| Mamarok | does somebody know by hear where I can find the Kubuntu icon? | 11:21 |
| Mamarok | heart* | 11:21 |
| Riddell | KubuntuArtwork has the logo on the wiki | 11:23 |
| Mamarok | which is where? I don't see a link on the Kubuntu.org page btw, shouldn't that be referenced somewhere? | 11:24 |
| Mamarok | hm, I only want the icon, not the name | 11:25 |
| Mamarok | like the Quantal logo, but without the bird | 11:27 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: we've no file of that but it's not hard to get it with inkscape and the logo | 11:31 |
| Mamarok | I am a complete idiot when it comes to graphics | 11:32 |
| Mamarok | so somebody will have to provide me with it, as I only have the very old one here: http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Download | 11:33 |
| Mamarok | I am transfering the wiki to c.k.o, but I would like to have more recent logos | 11:33 |
| Mamarok | else I use the "get started here" one from the default settings package, but it is square and that might look a bit awkward | 11:34 |
| Mamarok | and no, I really don't have time to get familiar with inkscape and learn how to extract a logo, I have hundreds of wiki pages to move | 11:34 |
| Mamarok | what about the favicon used in the browser for the tab? | 11:36 |
| Mamarok | any idea how I can get that one? | 11:36 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: http://people.ubuntu.com/~jr/kubuntu-gear.png | 11:37 |
| Riddell | comme ca? | 11:37 |
| Mamarok | cool, merci beaucoup :) | 11:38 |
| BluesKaj | hiyas all | 12:04 |
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| === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan | ||
| Quintasan | \o | 13:38 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1066861] Plasma-netbook freezes on live-disk after clicking on 'Page one' in the panel @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1066861 (by Philip Muškovac) | 13:40 |
| apachelogger | yofel_: does that also happen if you turn off desktop effects? | 13:41 |
| * apachelogger is seeing weird DE related intermediate freezery | 13:42 | |
| yofel_ | good question, will try | 13:42 |
| * Quintasan goes to do iso testing | 13:45 | |
| Quintasan | bbl with results | 13:45 |
| shadeslayer | likewise | 13:49 |
| shadeslayer | plus, ktorrent takes an insanely long time to stop torrents for some reason | 13:49 |
| apachelogger | afiestas: did you file a lunchpad bug about the lid-close issue? | 13:50 |
| apachelogger | oh, god | 13:52 |
| apachelogger | I have flickering on login | 13:52 |
| apachelogger | WAH | 13:52 |
| apachelogger | oh, I don't have my gpg key with me | 13:55 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: can you upload something to a ppa somewhere? | 13:56 |
| shadeslayer | sure | 13:56 |
| shadeslayer | as long as it does not have locusts or prn | 13:56 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: kde-workspace r696 | 13:57 |
| shadeslayer | r696? | 13:57 |
| apachelogger | revision | 13:58 |
| shadeslayer | from bzr? | 13:58 |
| shadeslayer | hm | 14:03 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: are you sure about that rev? | 14:05 |
| shadeslayer | maybe I'm missing something here :P | 14:05 |
| minimoy | hi all. I have a very little problem with libreoffice and the libreoffice-kde package. It does not concern kubuntu only but all distros running kde. Menus with libreoffice-kde package and the oxygen theme are not well defined. you can see this screenshot http://ubuntuone.com/1MAHFwgJwk74hVkHJfWI0d | 14:06 |
| minimoy | It is not very beautiful and it boring (for eyes) to work with edges of menus not well delimited | 14:07 |
| apachelogger | hm | 14:08 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: perhaps I cloned | 14:08 |
| minimoy | what do you think about it ? Can we improve that ? | 14:08 |
| apachelogger | ah yes, I cloned | 14:08 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: pushed now | 14:08 |
| apachelogger | minimoy: we can drop libreoffice-kde | 14:09 |
| apachelogger | seeing as it is unmaintained | 14:09 |
| minimoy | yes | 14:09 |
| minimoy | but | 14:09 |
| * shadeslayer looks | 14:10 | |
| minimoy | with this package we have the kde file picker and i don't want the gtk one | 14:10 |
| minimoy | with firefox we have the kmozillahelper for a very good integration into kde (thanks blue shell) | 14:11 |
| minimoy | why not improve the libreoffice-kde package in order to have an integration similar as firefox | 14:12 |
| apachelogger | minimoy: whishfull thinking does not make software become maintained though :) | 14:12 |
| minimoy | of course... | 14:13 |
| Riddell | gosh, Plasma Active 3 is out | 14:14 |
| apachelogger | meh, kwin is causing the login flickering | 14:15 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: do you have a machine without intel graphics? | 14:15 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: no, all intel here it seems | 14:17 |
| yofel_ | I could test on nvidia later, but nouveau is usually even worse in such things | 14:18 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: ninjas? | 14:20 |
| shadeslayer | fastest build times and what not | 14:20 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| apachelogger | yofel: intel in quantal is really bad | 14:20 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: no, you mean, X in quantal is really bad ;) | 14:21 |
| apachelogger | no | 14:21 |
| shadeslayer | yes | 14:21 |
| apachelogger | actually | 14:21 |
| apachelogger | I mean mesa in quantal is really bad | 14:21 |
| apachelogger | X is bad in general | 14:21 |
| shadeslayer | hah | 14:21 |
| yofel | apachelogger: freezes with and without compositing. | 14:21 |
| yofel | compositing is off by default btw. | 14:21 |
| shadeslayer | ^ | 14:21 |
| apachelogger | yofel: plasma broke it \o/ | 14:21 |
| shadeslayer | and mgrasselin is complaining about it ;) | 14:21 |
| yofel | add the kernel to that | 14:21 |
| yofel | my thinkpad isn't too happy about 3.5 in general | 14:22 |
| apachelogger | use 3.6 | 14:22 |
| * apachelogger is on 3.6 mainline | 14:22 | |
| yofel | yeah, I should do that | 14:22 |
| yofel | will install it later | 14:22 |
| apachelogger | 3.5 does not even support my wifi :P | 14:22 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: I'm just waiting for ack on ninjas | 14:22 |
| * shadeslayer is on 3.5.2 with patchery | 14:22 | |
| shadeslayer | and all works well | 14:22 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: don't care :P | 14:22 |
| shadeslayer | heh ok | 14:23 |
| shadeslayer | ninjas it is | 14:23 |
| apachelogger | it's not like I need it built right now | 14:23 |
| shadeslayer | oh pft | 14:23 |
| yofel | am I the only one that actually tries to use the archive kernel? :D | 14:23 |
| shadeslayer | no build queues | 14:23 |
| apachelogger | yofel: yes :P | 14:23 |
| mikhas | apachelogger, minimoy: cutting the -kde package for a while would make it painfully aware that libreoffice integration lacks maintainership | 14:23 |
| apachelogger | everyone who's seen the amount of patchery in the archive kernel will not want to use it anymore :P | 14:24 |
| mikhas | *painfully obvious | 14:24 |
| shadeslayer | hehe | 14:24 |
| apachelogger | on that note | 14:24 |
| apachelogger | we need to do a patch review in the next series | 14:24 |
| apachelogger | I get the feeling that we have way too many patches in the big kde packages and even more so in qt | 14:25 |
| shadeslayer | wtff | 14:25 |
| shadeslayer | https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental/+build/3905291 | 14:25 |
| shadeslayer | is that a ARM builder virtualizing i386 ? | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | afiestas: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase-workspace/+bug/1066892 | 14:26 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1066892 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu Quantal) "initial power profiles do not use suspend support" [Critical,Triaged] | 14:26 |
| yofel | @_@ | 14:26 |
| yofel | menkib (QEMU'd ARM test builder) builds Intel 386 binaries and is owned by Nick Moffitt. | 14:27 |
| yofel | makes no sense | 14:27 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 14:27 |
| apachelogger | why? | 14:27 |
| shadeslayer | not sure if ARM builder that QEMU'd to build i386 or the other way around | 14:28 |
| apachelogger | arm is a 32bit architecture | 14:28 |
| yofel | certainly, but no Intel 386 | 14:28 |
| yofel | *not | 14:28 |
| apachelogger | that's why one uses qemu | 14:28 |
| * shadeslayer also points to build times if that's not icecc'd | 14:28 | |
| * apachelogger has seen OBS setups having loads of problems from doing it the other way around | 14:29 | |
| apachelogger | point being, i386 virtualization is excellent whereas arm virtualization is soso | 14:29 |
| shadeslayer | I'm actually *happy* about this :p | 14:30 |
| apachelogger | so assuming you want to build i386 and arm in the same farm it makes sense to have native arm builds and virtual i386 builds | 14:30 |
| shadeslayer | probably means lower power consumption | 14:30 |
| shadeslayer | as long as the build times are the same | 14:30 |
| apachelogger | makes next to no difference in the big picture :P | 14:30 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1066892] initial power profiles do not use suspend support @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1066892 (by Harald Sitter) | 14:40 |
| Quintasan | amd64 manual partitioning - passed | 15:03 |
| Quintasan | same for i386 | 15:03 |
| Riddell | awooga | 15:04 |
| * Quintasan makes something to eat and installs back everything he needs | 15:06 | |
| Riddell | Darkwing: ping? | 15:26 |
| Riddell | translations? | 15:26 |
| Riddell | and bug 1049278 | 15:26 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1049278 in kubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) "Secure port information duplicated" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1049278 | 15:26 |
| Darkwing | Riddell: I'll look at it today.\ | 15:37 |
| Riddell | Darkwing: thanks | 15:38 |
| Riddell | claydoh: fancy filling in some blanks here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu | 15:38 |
| Riddell | YuriyVidineev_: ug you're right on the netbook issue | 15:39 |
| Riddell | yofel rather | 15:39 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1066892] initial power profiles do not use suspend support @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1066892 (by Harald Sitter) | 15:41 |
| Riddell | or mparillo ? :) | 15:44 |
| Riddell | fancy filling in some blanks here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu | 15:44 |
| mparillo | Riddell: I can try. Looks more blank than previous versions ;-) | 15:45 |
| Riddell | mparillo: this isn't the release announcment | 15:48 |
| Riddell | it's the more dry and boring release notes | 15:49 |
| Riddell | so you can just take the release announcement and remove the shiny language and pictures | 15:49 |
| Riddell | of course we also need a nice release announcement page | 15:49 |
| mparillo | Ouch. Got a 500 when I saved my minor edits, and now the page appears gone. | 16:04 |
| mikhas | the cloud is a great place to lose your data | 16:09 |
| Riddell | mparillo: erk | 16:15 |
| Riddell | well it's still in the history | 16:16 |
| Riddell | but I don't know how to revert | 16:16 |
| Riddell | skaet: any ideas? | 16:18 |
| mparillo | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu is still gone. Once before when a wiki page got a 500 when saving my updates is magically re-appeared (perhaps when somebody else saved his updates). But (at least so far), not yet. | 16:24 |
| Riddell | mparillo: well it's still in the history | 16:34 |
| Riddell | but I don't know how to revert | 16:34 |
| mparillo | Is it under the drop-down for more actions? | 16:34 |
| Riddell | ah hah | 16:35 |
| Riddell | ooh that's broken | 16:35 |
| skaet | hmm... what's wrong? | 16:35 |
| Riddell | <class 'MoinMoin.PageEditor.CouldNotLock'> | 16:36 |
| * skaet blinks | 16:36 | |
| skaet | no Kubuntu page?? | 16:36 |
| Riddell | skaet: wiki breakage, I've taken it to -sysadmin | 16:36 |
| skaet | Riddell, thanks. Let me kno.w if I need to help. It was there yesterday | 16:36 |
| Riddell | yeah, just broke when mparillo tried to edit it | 16:37 |
| mparillo | Actually to be precise, when I tried to save my minor edits. | 16:37 |
| mparillo | This happened also with the WhoWeAre page also. I simply re-did it that time. | 16:38 |
| allee | apachelogger: please have a look at my comment in bug 781728 | 16:43 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 781728 in digikam (Ubuntu) "digikam icon does not scale in unity (Ubuntu 11.04)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/781728 | 16:43 |
| apachelogger | uha | 16:43 |
| apachelogger | that's curious | 16:43 |
| apachelogger | allee: I'd take the xpm stuff to debian btw | 16:44 |
| Riddell | mparillo: here's a copy in the mean time https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu2 | 16:44 |
| apachelogger | # Oxygen Icons already in kdeicons-oxygen | 16:45 |
| apachelogger | ah | 16:45 |
| apachelogger | allee: seems at some point it installed them to oxygne rather than hicolor | 16:45 |
| apachelogger | then when that got fixed upstream some packager did not update it properly | 16:45 |
| allee | apachelogger: I added this stuff ages ago when dmenu was the hottest stuff on earth. But now I'm happy when you kill it :-) | 16:45 |
| allee | stuff == xpm.d/* | 16:45 |
| apachelogger | oh well, I can kill it, but it's going to creep back in unless someone kills it in debian too ;) | 16:46 |
| allee | right :-( | 16:49 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: is the known issue for kdm still applicable? what with us using lightdm and all | 16:51 |
| apachelogger | ah, I am looking at old data apparently | 16:52 |
| allee | As I've seen digikam pkging, could profit also from a debian/ubuntu pkging unification. Not sure if all the different library pkg make sense because I'm not sure if upstream now try to not break ABI backward compat | 16:52 |
| apachelogger | allee: last I checked the libs still were considered privatey | 16:53 |
| allee | apachelogger: then, as kipi-plugins now is merged back into digikam, do the -dev pkg make sense at all? | 16:54 |
| allee | apachelogger: should be forbitten to build-dep on them, right? | 16:55 |
| balloons | Riddell, ScottK can one of you confirm this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qa-website/+bug/1066821 If so I'll fix it | 16:59 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1066821 in Ubuntu QA Website "Wrong test title in Kubuntu i386 iso testcase" [Undecided,New] | 16:59 |
| Riddell | oh yes, my typo I guess, let me fix | 17:01 |
| balloons | kk | 17:01 |
| balloons | can you close the bug once it's fixed? | 17:04 |
| balloons | thanks! | 17:04 |
| Riddell | voila | 17:04 |
| balloons | :-) | 17:05 |
| Riddell | mparillo: time to learn to use a real IRC client to stop the disconnects :) | 17:45 |
| mparillo | My office blocks the IRC port, I think. I use Quassell at home, but webchat at work. Anyway, I do have to get back to my day job, but I put some updates into Kubuntu2 | 17:46 |
| Riddell | thanks | 17:47 |
| mparillo | My pleasure. Shame about those day jobs ;-) | 17:47 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: so this power management patch, are you doing the SRU or me? I lose track | 17:52 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1066861] Plasma-netbook freezes after clicking on 'Page one' in the panel @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1066861 (by Philip Muškovac) | 17:53 |
| Riddell | rdieter: hey you're running non-kubuntu packages I guess, would you be able to see if bug 1066861 is a generic issue or something specific to kubuntu? | 18:13 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1066861 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu Quantal) "Plasma-netbook freezes after clicking on 'Page one' in the panel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1066861 | 18:13 |
| Riddell | just needs running plasma-netbook and switching to Page one | 18:13 |
| rdieter | Riddell: ok, I'll see | 18:15 |
| rdieter | Riddell: switching to page one in plasma-netbook seems ok for me | 18:19 |
| Riddell | bah, what have we done to it | 18:20 |
| Riddell | thanks rdieter | 18:20 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: me | 18:24 |
| JontheEchidna | welp, this is a new one on me... http://paste.kde.org/570368/ | 18:25 |
| yofel | o.O | 18:26 |
| yofel | try again? or does it fail every time? | 18:27 |
| JontheEchidna | worked the second time | 18:27 |
| JontheEchidna | just very strange... | 18:27 |
| yofel | true, first time I'm seeing this as well | 18:28 |
| JontheEchidna | this suggests the server was under load: http://blog.e-shell.org/270 | 18:28 |
| JontheEchidna | off to class, bbiab | 18:29 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I can confirm the netbook page one problem. | 18:49 |
| ScottK | It's eating 100% CPU, much like quassel does when I switch between channels with a large backlog. | 18:49 |
| ScottK | I wonder if these are common effects of some Qt issue. | 18:50 |
| shadeslayer | for some reason I cannot reproduce said issue on quantal | 18:53 |
| shadeslayer | but qt is different, 4.8.3 in quantal vs 4.8.2 in precise | 18:55 |
| yofel | quassel works fine for me, just plasma-netbook not | 18:57 |
| shadeslayer | did someone start adding blue prints for approval? we only have 2 weeks before UDS ;) | 19:08 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 19:25 |
| shadeslayer | http://www.reddit.com/r/Kubuntu/comments/111dwc/fix_for_broken_menubar_widget_in_kde_49_on/ | 19:25 |
| yofel | we have a reddit channel o.O? | 19:29 |
| ScottK | I got a backtrace eventually on the netbook thing. | 19:29 |
| shadeslayer | s/channel/subreddit | 19:29 |
| ScottK | I installed debug packages and I'm waiting for it to regenerate now. | 19:29 |
| yofel | ah right | 19:29 |
| ScottK | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1281821/ is the traceback I got for the netbook issue (eventually) | 19:47 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: ^^^ | 19:47 |
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| skaet | Riddell, wiki page has been restored. | 20:52 |
| claydoh | Riddell: i am off to work now, possibly putting in a full week in the next 3 days, but I will look at it when I ger home tomorrow morning | 21:28 |
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