=== m_conley_away is now known as m_conley === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away [01:51] Does anyone know if it's possible to add a ppa during the normal desktop installation (without using a preseed file)? [04:38] Bonjour [04:38] JoseeAntonioR: just ask, I'm reading backscroll :) [04:39] pitti: mind a quick pm? :) [04:39] as I said, just ask [05:22] good morning [05:24] bonjour didrocks! as-tu eu un bon week-end? [05:25] pitti: bon week-end, on a visité pas mal de salles pour le mariage, donc un peu fatigué :) [05:25] et toi? [05:26] ooh, wedding preps! [05:26] yep ;) [05:27] didrocks: il était calme; we went to the cinema ("Looper"), an hour into the woods for collecting mushroom, and to the Botanic garden [05:27] enjoying the nice autumn weather [05:27] oh, seems to be a lovely weekend, indeed :) [05:29] didrocks: avez-vous trouver une bonne salle? [05:30] pitti: oui, je pense qu'on en a trouvé une. Maintenant, il faut voir si on peut avoir un bon traiteur au même endroit + le curé pour le mariage :) [05:30] ok, I need babelfish for that one [05:31] didrocks: how much time do you have left? [05:32] pitti: just a little bit less than a year ;) [05:32] ah, plenty of time [05:34] indeed, but it seems that rooms are booked already, we have few free dates remaining :) [06:14] Good Morning everyone. [06:16] hey BigWhale [06:20] good morning everyone [06:20] hey didrocks, chrisccoulson :) [06:20] morning chrisccoulson :) [06:20] hi BigWhale [06:20] hi didrocks, how are you? [06:21] chrisccoulson: a little bit tired, but fine! thanks :) yourself? [06:21] hey chrisccoulson, how are you? [06:21] didrocks, yeah, pretty much the same. my daughter is starting to look a bit better this morning too :) [06:21] hey pitti, i'm good thanks. how are you? [06:22] ah, great to hear for you daughter :) [06:22] your* [06:22] chrisccoulson: quite fine, thanks! had a relaxing weekend [06:22] good to hear about your daughter [06:22] thanks :) [06:41] good morning [06:44] hi jibel [06:45] salut jibel, hey rickspencer3! [06:45] Hey rickspencer3! [06:45] bonjour didrocks [06:45] bonjhour mes amis? [06:46] 12.10, c'est bon? [06:46] de mon côté, pas de catastrophe pour unity, good to roll! :-) [06:47] le mot dans la rue? [06:47] didrocks, tres bien [06:47] j'ai boisson mettre les cles compose pour l'accents dans cet ordinateur :) [06:48] didrocks, il y a plus des respins pour 12.10, ou, 12.10 est finis? [06:48] rickspencer3: achète un clavier azerty! :) [06:49] rickspencer3: je crois qu'il y a eu un respin ce week-end pour le boot efi. Je vois rien pour l'instant qui demanderait un autre respin :) [06:49] chouette [06:50] rickspencer3, at least 1 respin planned to get a fix in apt and another fix for the "reinstall" functionality in ubiquity [06:50] jibel, je ne connais pas "reinstall" :/ [06:51] jibel: c'est celui qui est dans -proposed? [06:51] didrocks, yes, found it yesterday, Colin fixed it yesterday evening [06:51] aha [06:51] rickspencer3, ubiquity offers to reinstall the system when it finds an existing installation [06:51] jibel, we should add tests for that today :) [06:52] rickspencer3, bug 1066347 [06:52] Launchpad bug 1066347 in ubiquity ""Reinstall Ubuntu" failed - apt-clone crashes with: KeyError: "filename './etc/apt/sources.list' not found" line 1886 in getmember in tarfile.py" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1066347 [06:52] rickspencer3, indeed :) [06:58] pitti, I just replied to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/emesene/+bug/1050358 [06:58] Launchpad bug 1050358 in pygobject-2 "emesene crashed with SIGSEGV in tupledealloc.24592()" [High,Confirmed] [06:59] sbte: ah, thanks [06:59] hey rickspencer3, ça va? [07:00] bonjour pitti! je vais bien, et tois? [07:00] je suis a londre :) [07:00] je suis a londres* ;) [07:01] * rickspencer3 sets up compose keys [07:01] rickspencer3: je vais très bien, merci! j'ai eu un week-end calme [07:01] we had marvellous sunny fall weather, so we went outside quite a lot [07:02] choutte! [07:02] samedi, j'ai courru acote la mer d'isle of man [07:02] c'est telement jolli [07:02] rickspencer3: "choutte"? [07:03] pitti: "chouette" I guess :) [07:03] pitti, "Chouette" = nice [07:03] sorry [07:03] oh, google says that means "owl" [07:03] è é ô, etc... [07:04] pitti, la chouette = owl [07:04] chouette = "cool" [07:04] sans l'aritcle ;) [07:04] j'ai apprendre un nouveau mot ajourd'hui :) [07:04] pitti, I think it was current slang in like 1975 [07:04] yeah, it's a little bit old-fashionned :) [07:04] now they say "nikel" [07:05] rickspencer3: tu as un clef compose maintenant? [07:05] ☺ æ → [07:05] pitti, oui, c'est vrais ;) [07:06] mais, je ne puex pas épeller avec ou sans le clés compose ;) [07:07] oui, c'est très utile [07:08] translage.g.c ne sait pas "nikel" [07:08] je pense il y a un systém pour la correction d'eppllage [07:08] pitti, nickel? [07:08] oui, c'est "nickel" desolé [07:09] rickspencer3: oui, mais c'est juste la pièce de monnaie [07:09] pitti, the mysteries of slang :) [07:09] *tsk* [07:09] pitti: non, c'est "niquel" le matériau [07:09] pitti, "chouette" comes from the old French verb "Choeter" which meant "to be handsome" and now means "it is a good news" [07:09] https://www.google.com/search?q=niquel&hl=en&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=tLZ7UInrHZKZhQf58oDQCw&ved=0CDEQsAQ&biw=1920&bih=994 [07:09] aha! [07:09] "nickel" is "cool" [07:10] didrocks: as if that wouldn't be any less weird [07:10] j'ai ecouté "nickel platinum" aussi [07:10] rickspencer3: ahah ;) [07:10] pitti: TBH, I see more than 50% mispelling "niquel" for "nickel" :p [07:10] (long discussions on #gnomefr :p) [07:11] j'ai regardé tv le monde heir denier, mais, je n'ai pas comprix :( [07:12] les françaises ... si vous ples ... parle plus lentment! [07:12] tv5monde? je regarde peu la chaine, mais j'imagine que le débit de parole est rapide [07:12] ahah, c'est dans toutes les langues "les américains, svp, plus lent!" ;) [07:13] Lets all pretend we're french day? [07:13] Je t'aime! [07:14] "Je suis un homme français" [07:14] jibel: on a réussi, finalement \o/ [07:14] ... et je l'aime! [07:14] * didrocks change le langpack par défaut et demande un respin de 13.10 [07:14] 12.10* [07:14] Ah oui! [07:14] didrocks: wasn't that what seb128 announced 5 months ago already anyway? [07:15] pitti: ouai, mais j'avais peur que ce "bug" ne soit pas corrigé :) [07:15] ("bogue" en bon français) [07:17] ah ah [07:17] (see, I'm even imitating French laughter!) [07:19] riri [07:19] riri? :p [07:19] didrocks: FWIW, with all the CPU/battery/memory increase, it certainly doesn't help that unity grows more and more python daemons :( [07:19] didrocks: do you know if there's any plan to rewrite them in Vala? (and stop adding more Python daemons in the frist place)? [07:20] pitti: I agree and we'll probably put the issue down on paper with PS [07:20] pitti: I heard about Go… [07:20] well, anything which doesn't incur a 0.5 second start penalty even on fast machines [07:20] and a huge memory footprint [07:20] opening the dash the first time on my netbook is ridiculously slow, and it's even worse on arm [07:24] * mlankhorst tried [07:37] hey desktopers [07:37] hey! [07:38] bonjour seb128 [07:39] rickspencer3, salut ! toujours à Londre ? [07:39] lut didrocks [07:39] seb128, oui, je suis à Londres [07:39] seb128, quel est la mot dans la rue apropos 12.10? [07:41] rickspencer3, ca a l'air ok pour l'instant [07:41] l'air "ok" ? [07:42] pas l'air niquel? [07:44] rickspencer3, disont qu'il y a quelques bugs que j'aurais préféré ne pas voir dans la release [07:44] rickspencer3, mais rien de suffisant pour stopper,retarder la release [07:45] good morning french people [07:47] chrisccoulson, good morning our uk friend, how is your rainy country today? ;-) [07:48] seb128, it's a bit miserable outside ;) [07:48] chrisccoulson, had a good W.E? Is your daughter better? [07:48] seb128, yeah, she looks a bit better this morning. her face doesn't look as swollen today [07:48] hi chrisccoulson :) [07:48] how are you? [07:48] hi rickspencer3 :) [07:51] salut seb128! [07:54] pitti, salut, ca va ? t'as passé un bon w.e ? [07:55] * bryceh waves in a frenchly manner [07:55] bryceh, hey, how are you? In London as well or just not sleeping on a sunday night? ;-) [07:56] * mlankhorst will go on his next flight with air france klm [07:56] hey bryceh :) [07:56] seb128, nah, just being a night owl [07:57] "le couch-tard" apparently? [07:57] that's correct ;-) [07:58] well that works in english too ;-) [08:00] haha [08:00] morning [08:02] Laney, hey, how are you? [08:04] seb128: oui, c'était jolie et calme; nous avons eu du beau temps [08:04] seb128: good thanks! good weekend? [08:05] seb128: "joli" [08:05] pitti, ici vent et pluie :-( [08:05] ici ciel bleu :) [08:05] Laney, quite good thanks, spa on saturday, starcraft on sunday [08:05] seb128: comme c'est dommage [08:05] * Laney got the new x-com game [08:05] pitti, c'est l'automne [08:05] ah well, playing games is quite nice, too :) [08:05] Laney, unknown enemy? how is it? [08:06] I'm pondering buying it [08:06] I think RAOF plays it as well [08:06] yeah it's fun, definitely a lot in common with the original [08:06] I used to play the old xcom, it has been a while ... in the 90's [08:06] so if you liked those, get it [08:07] Laney, seb128, RAOF: Shame on you ;) (just joking) - you should all try UFO:AI, which is open source: www.ufoai.org ! [08:07] well, I played only one, it was a by turn strategic team battle [08:07] yeah, that's the same :-) [08:08] do you need a powerful video to play? I'm never sure if intel cards let you run modern games :p [08:08] I've been playing Wesnoth for quite a while [08:08] shame on me, I activated my win7 disk this W.E [08:08] seb128: Yes, it is OpenGL. [08:08] I loved Battle Isle back then, but the DOS version is too clumsy now and I can't find my BI3 CD any more [08:09] I swapped my disk with a ssd one when I bought the laptop, I still have win on the old disk, I swapped it back ... works fine [08:09] but UFO:AI really is great, so if you do not know it - please try [08:09] wesnoth is quite a lot of fun, too; just tends to be quite hard in the later campaigns [08:09] will do! [08:09] imho it is the best open-source game out there [08:09] MCR1, thanks, will try [08:09] pitti, oh, battle isle, I played that as well [08:09] (I contributed quite a bit to it) [08:10] seb128: I tried again in dosbox some weeks ago, but with today's monitors and mouse control expectancies it feels really clumsy [08:13] didrocks: PS freeze session> hah, thanks for that, was considering doing that [08:14] Laney: yeah, I think the discussion is important (with design, the different distro teams and so on… ;)) [08:14] gnome doesn't have a standing exception these days though btw [08:15] it's not usually necessary as we are aligned with them [08:16] sadly only game I got to play this Sunday was catching-baby-climbing-over-couche-tard [08:17] Laney: hum, really? I'm pretty sure we still do push it even with the GNOME freeze after ours [08:17] yeah [08:17] it came up last cycle IIRC [08:17] but we agreed it's not necessary [08:20] seb128: good morning - bug #1032953 looks a lot like a gvfs bug to me, afaics there is no code in update-notifier that triggers it, just running the mainloop there is enough to crash [08:20] Launchpad bug 1032953 in gvfs "update-notifier crashed with SIGSEGV in g_object_ref()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1032953 [08:20] seb128: its #8 on errors [08:22] mvo, thanks, I will have a look [08:28] seb128: bug #1032925 looks a bit similar, also no real u-n code involved but library code, in this case dconf. maybe there is some generic memory corruption :/ or they are just two independent bugs [08:28] Launchpad bug 1032925 in update-notifier "update-notifier crashed with SIGSEGV in g_object_ref()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1032925 [08:28] (nr #22 on errors) [09:10] pitti, will the segfault I sent you be fixed before 12.10? [09:10] sbte: no, release is Thursday and everything is deep frozen [09:10] this is perfectly SRUable [09:10] and we don't even have debugged it yet [09:12] pitti, ok, too bad. I hope it doesn't affect a lot of other applications === doko_ is now known as doko [09:18] pitti, hey! before release of 12.10 will apport be disabled ? (or is it already?) [09:19] om26er: it is already [09:19] om26er: well, reporting crashes to Launchpad is [09:19] just as with precise, we keep reporting crashes to errors.u.c. [09:20] Ok === Zdra is now known as xclaesse === Zdra is now known as xclaesse [09:30] sigh https://launchpadlibrarian.net/119773304/buildlog_ubuntu-quantal-amd64.firefox-trunk_19.0~a1~hg20121014r110233-0ubuntu1~umd1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [09:30] because of http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a913c8c0de54 :( [09:30] fantastic start to the week! [09:38] seb128: i attached some debdiffs to lp780117 -- does that bug need anything else from me? [09:39] ayan, no, that looks fine, thanks === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:45] pitti: hey, just got pinged on #debian-gnome about the explicit upstart dep that dbus has. do you remember what it was for? [11:45] it's pre-lucid anyway so it seems we can drop it and rely on the upstart-job automatic dep now anyway [11:53] Laney: no idea about it, I'm afraid; that's still from Keybuk [11:54] old skool [11:54] didrocks: just watched BBT 4.03 over lunch -- that one is just awesome [11:54] didrocks: err, 6.03 of course [12:00] pitti, bbt? [12:00] oh [12:00] seb128: Big Bang Theory [12:00] yeah, just got it :p [12:01] I should buy the DVDs [12:01] sorry, OT [12:07] pitti: so late! already done on Friday :) [12:07] didrocks: yeah, I didn't have time for a lunch break on Friday [12:07] dinner time with Julie for me :) (she's more fan than I even am ;)) [12:08] so I would get killed if I watch it without her :p [12:08] hah [12:09] do you guys have the DVDs? or are they broadcasted on TV somewhere? [12:09] just watching from the interwebs [12:10] seb128: is season 6 on DVD even? it's the current season on TB [12:10] TV [12:11] seb128: same here, I doubt the current season is on dvd :) [12:11] but ECANTWAIT :) [12:11] same here :) [12:19] didrocks, pitti: ok, I'm probably less good at/wanting to find warez videos on the internet ;-) [12:19] but I'm lagging behind on bbt anyway, I could just buy the first seasons in DVDs [12:24] * desrt yawns [12:24] desrt, hey, how are you? had a good long W.E? [12:24] yup [12:24] dunno if you saw planet but i'm developing one hell of a next-cycle TODO list [12:24] seb128, do you use empathy? [12:25] bcurtiswx, not a lot, I use piding most of the time [12:25] desrt, the Boston glib/GTK plans? [12:25] ya [12:25] quite a few items on the glib todo list [12:25] yeah, you comforted me in my idea of "stay on stable" ;-) [12:25] seb128: :P [12:26] seb128: i already introduced two of the incompatible changes [12:26] hey desrt [12:26] desrt, do you use empathy? [12:26] seb128: no complaints yet except that gedit starts showing some g_critical() where it didn't -- and it was already failing valgrind before the changes, so i think it just makes an existing bug more visible [12:26] bcurtiswx, well, I can run it if needed, I've it installed ... do you need testing? [12:26] bcurtiswx: using it right now [12:26] pitti: hey! [12:27] pitti: i was looking for you :) [12:27] sure you both can (bcurtiswx on gtalk) , my notifications do not work in the notification area for new messages [12:27] pitti: i need you to rewrite class initialisation in pygobject :) [12:27] can you confirm? [12:27] * pitti runs away very fast [12:28] pitti: seriously though.... [12:28] pitti, inspired by Felix Baumgartner ? [12:28] pitti: what do you think is the scariest single file in all of GNOME right now? [12:28] bcurtiswx: ... horizontally [12:28] ;) [12:29] desrt: err, no idea off the top of my head -- but if you are alluding to that, some files in pygobject are certainly hot candidates [12:29] pitti: i had gtype.c in mind [12:29] pitti: i'm interested in making some 'changes' there... the way pygobject does class initialisation prevents me from making those changes [12:30] we could easily have that file half the size and 1/4 as complicated [12:30] desrt, which adds an extra 33% complexity per line? [12:30] desrt: I'm not really an expert in the pygobject code yet either, but if there's something to change in particular there, I'm happy to sit down for a day and learn about it [12:30] desrt: you are a good seller :) [12:31] pitti: long story short: everyone on earth does gobjects this way: [12:31] from their get_type() function inside of the g_once_enter() they call _register() and then _add_interface() [12:31] then in their class_init() they call a bunch of property installs [12:31] bcurtiswx, "notifications do not work in the notification area for new messages" ... is that gnome-shell? [12:31] pygobject calls _register() and then calls _class_ref() on that to get the class structure [12:32] then installs one round of interfaces [12:32] then installs the properties [12:32] bcurtiswx, or what do you call "notification area for new messages"? [12:32] then installs the rest of the interfaces [12:32] the two rounds of interfaces thing is explained in the source with a comment saying "this is probably a bug we should have filed against glib..." but in fact is just because they're doing it the wrong way entirely :p [12:32] seb128, i can never remember what the white envelope is called, but in there. It does not turn blue for new empathy chat messages [12:32] bcurtiswx, the messaging menu? [12:33] seb128, yes, thank you [12:33] bcurtiswx, when did the issue start? [12:33] around friday last week [12:33] bcurtiswx, it would be a telepathy-indicator issue, can you ping Ken about it when he gets online? [12:33] bcurtiswx, you could try to downgrade telepathy-indicator as well [12:34] seb128, OK, i'll try both. Thanks [12:34] desrt: ok, I'm afraid I don't follow from that short description; perhaps you can file a bug with some details, and then I'll get back to you ASAP when I looked at that part intensely? [12:34] pitti: deal [12:34] pitti: we should also talk at UDS :) [12:34] no doubt [12:34] desrt: that, and beer [12:47] pitti: i just filed https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=686149 with a fairly decent explanation with a code pointer [12:47] Gnome bug 686149 in general "fix class initialisation" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [12:48] desrt: cheers [12:48] pitti: cheers for the work, if you can figure out how to do it :) [12:48] desrt: I think I can find some time over this week [12:48] pitti: there may be some reason that i don't know that they elected to do it this way.... [12:48] I'm still working on the gvfs tests to finish that thing [12:49] like somehow having stuff in a class_init() would have made their lives difficult [12:49] desrt: I can certainly find J5 on IRC at some point and pick his brain [12:49] pitti: if it ends up being impossible for you to do that we could discuss alternatives -- maybe i could loosen some of the warnings in glib in order to allow you to still add all interfaces before calling g_type_class_ref() [12:51] seb128, i can confirm the older telepathy-indicator 0.3.0-0ubuntu1 works and the -0ubuntu2 does not === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [13:03] didrocks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1280650/ [13:03] didrocks: some guys have been working on the reset stuff [13:03] jcastro_: sweet! on a call, will look afterwards :) [13:03] cool [13:05] jcastro_: after a first quick review, it would be better to use the python gobject gsettings binding rather than calling subprocess if possible === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [13:05] (also not having the list hard-coded by detecting which schemes are installed on the system or gsettings will fail) [13:08] morning kenvandine [13:08] howdy [13:09] kenvandine, the telepathy-indicator 0.3.0-0ubuntu2 upgrade borked the messaging menu turning blue on new empathy messages. [13:09] kenvandine, i confirmed it works OK with -0ubuntu1 but not -0ubuntu2 [13:13] kenvandine, nothing shows from empathy in the messaging menu from empathy [13:14] how's everyone doing on this fine morning? :) [13:14] off to work, bbs === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley [13:24] bcurtiswx, hummm [13:27] hey cyphermox, good morning [13:27] hey pitti === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [13:44] mterry, hey [13:44] mterry, how are you? how busy are you today? ;-) [13:44] mterry, or: is there any chance you could look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1053862 [13:44] Launchpad bug 1053862 in nautilus "nautilus crashed with SIGSEGV in g_list_foreach()" [High,Confirmed] [13:45] seb128, I can look at it, yeah [13:45] cyphermox, Hey! [13:45] cyphermox, can you please take a look at bug bug 965895 [13:45] Launchpad bug 965895 in network-manager-applet "After boot, NetworkManager indicator menu only shows four entries" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/965895 [13:46] mterry, thanks, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1054737 might be the same one [13:46] Launchpad bug 1054737 in nautilus "nautilus crashed with SIGSEGV in gtk_widget_destroy()" [Medium,Confirmed] === nessita1 is now known as nessita [13:59] om26er: I was looking at it before, I have a few ideas but it will need testing outside of proposed to see if it helps -- I can't reproduce it myself [13:59] om26er: can you reproduce this easily? [14:00] cyphermox, yeah, it happens quite reliably on one slow machine that I have [14:00] ok [14:00] so I'll write up a patch and put it in a ppa for you to try ;) [14:00] sure [14:01] om26er: just to be sure, quantal right? [14:01] because AFAIK this happens on precise too [14:01] cyphermox, both, quantal and precise [14:01] om26er: which one are you running? [14:01] cyphermox, i have both installed, atm its running quantal [14:01] oh ok [14:02] well I got a copy of the quantal branch already, so I'll do this one first [14:03] back :) [14:09] So in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1064992 i discovered what seems to be a bug in gtk+3 and created a simple patch at https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=686152 What's the workflow from there? Wait until gtk patch is upstream and then distro patch? distro patch anyway? never distro patch and simply wait for next gtk release? [14:09] Launchpad bug 1064992 in gtk+3.0 "Unity menubar crashes when activating a submenu in LibreOffice while using Orca screen reader" [Undecided,In progress] [14:10] tsdgeos, not strict rule, but we like to have an happy upstream review before backporting fixes [14:11] makes sense :-) [14:11] tsdgeos, we do apply patches before they are reviewed though when we judge them important enoughs or when we are confident in the change [14:11] tsdgeos: I think you can ping API on this one I guess [14:13] didrocks: no such nick around says /whois [14:13] tsdgeos: yeah, he seems to not be around. he's normally on gimp.net and freenode [14:14] let me check gimpnet [14:14] nope [14:16] tsdgeos: no, he's really not around, maybe try later (he's in argentina? not sure) [14:16] maybe :-) [14:18] bcurtiswx, can you file a bug for that? [14:18] i think i have a fix [14:19] kenvandine, sure if you need any info from my Quantal install at home I can get that later today [14:19] bcurtiswx, it works fine for guest and for new users on first run [14:19] but it doesn't work after that :) [14:20] bcurtiswx, i am pretty sure i have a fix [14:20] OK one sec [14:20] just need a bug report to reference :) [14:23] kenvandine, bug #1066901 [14:23] Launchpad bug 1066901 in telepathy-indicator "Messaging menu does not show new messages for empathy." [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1066901 [14:28] kenvandine, you're linking a branch with a dif lp # ? [14:30] bcurtiswx, what do you mean? [14:30] in the bug report i just made you linked a branch you made for a gwibber bug [14:31] oh [14:31] not really :) [14:31] i fixed it in the other branch [14:31] which was already linked [14:31] oh, ok [14:39] bcurtiswx, ok, fix uploaded to -proposed... now it is up to the SRU team :) [14:39] bcurtiswx, thanks! [14:41] kenvandine, no, thank you :) [14:42] kenvandine, so anyone using it on a live CD for 12.10 will be OK, and anyone upgrading will get the fix anyways, right? [14:42] yeah [14:42] great [14:42] once it goes through he SRU process [14:42] yup [14:43] i did most of my testing on that in a guest session [14:43]