[15:49] <DangerM> Anyone here :)
[15:50] <TheLordOfTime> no :P
[15:50] <TheLordOfTime> we're all dead
[15:50] <TheLordOfTime> and those of us that arent are either dying, or immortal
[15:50] <TheLordOfTime> :P
[16:04] <DangerM> Lol
[16:04] <DangerM> I'll go with that
[16:04] <DangerM> hows things anyway
[16:04] <DangerM> Hopefully this channel will be a bit more active
[16:05] <DangerM> when a few more supporters pick up the bat
[16:05] <DangerM> also its not advertised that much - maybe make it a bit more prominent on the FAQ
[16:05] <DangerM> or something
[16:05] <TheLordOfTime> its not "official" last i heard
[16:05] <TheLordOfTime> at least not yet
[16:05] <DangerM> the channel ?
[16:06] <TheLordOfTime> no, the release.
[16:06]  * TheLordOfTime yawns
[16:06] <TheLordOfTime> but that's what jbicha said a while
[16:06]  * TheLordOfTime returns to stabbing php5
[16:06] <jbicha_> DangerM: we have a FAQ?
[16:09] <DangerM> I thought that the main page was an FAQ of sorts
[16:09] <DangerM> lol
[16:10] <jbicha_> anyway, feel free to make one if you like
[16:10] <DangerM> Oh wow I got roped into that
[16:10] <DangerM> Lol
[16:10] <DangerM> Sure why not
[16:10] <TheLordOfTime> lolol
[16:11] <jbicha_> here, let's use this for the final release notes (I just copied it from the beta notes) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ReleaseNotes/12.10
[16:12] <DangerM> Cool
[16:24] <DangerM> jbica_ question - fingerprint sensor works out of the box on fedora gnome for login keyring etc but doesn't on this remix - any idea why ?
[16:26] <jbicha_> DangerM: I don't have a fingerprint sensor so I don't know
[16:27] <jbicha_> does it work with regular Ubuntu?
[16:28] <jbicha_> I think this is another one of those trick questions... you know, the ones where the answer involves you doing more work :)
[16:31] <DangerM> Lol I will get stuck in
[16:31] <DangerM> It does not work with regular Ubuntu but I thought it was more lack of support in Unity
[16:31] <DangerM> I shall investigate more what Fedora preinstalls to support it
[16:32] <DangerM> on my Thinkpad
[16:36] <jbicha_> maybe http://packages.qa.debian.org/fprintd ?
[16:38] <DangerM> Possibly the fingerprint implementation seems to be a bit hit and miss
[16:38] <DangerM> depending on the sensor installed etc
[16:38] <DangerM> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Integrated_Fingerprint_Reader
[16:39] <DangerM> Apparently yeah for my model fprint is the one
[16:40] <DangerM> And apparently the packages are in 12.10 so I just need to
[16:40] <DangerM> apt-get install libfprint0 fprint-demo libpam-fprintd gksu-polkit
[18:38] <TheLordOfTime> jbicha, are you MOTU?
[18:41] <jbicha> yes
[18:42] <TheLordOfTime> i might have a question for you, in a bit.
[18:43] <TheLordOfTime> but if you're not sure about universe-domain server packages, i'll go stab micah or someone later
[18:45] <jbicha> if it's a generic motu question, #ubuntu-motu is a better place
[18:45] <TheLordOfTime> its a package-specific question, so... :P
[18:45] <jbicha> well there's a lot more people that can answer your questions there
[18:46] <jbicha> they don't tend to answer questions like "is anybody here?" though ;)
[18:47] <TheLordOfTime> true
[18:47] <TheLordOfTime> although usually that works when people are actually alive ;P
[18:47] <TheLordOfTime> i asked in there now though
[18:48] <jbicha> there's like 200 people in that room, could you imagine if everyone answered that question?
[18:49] <TheLordOfTime> lol
[18:49] <TheLordOfTime> not all are MOTUs though, no?
[19:08] <TheLordOfTime> jbicha, apparently the MOTUs are dead
[19:08] <TheLordOfTime> in - motu
[19:08] <TheLordOfTime> so...
[19:10] <everaldo> jbicha, hey.. when you are planing to generate our iso?
[19:11] <everaldo> (just curious, so I will touch you before to remember two missing patches)
[19:16] <jbicha> everaldo: final won't be done until Wednesday or Thursday
[19:17] <jbicha> your branch is missing a few changes too :)
[19:19] <everaldo> jbicha, yes? so is better to rebranch and reapply? it will make more easy for you?
[19:21] <jbicha> everaldo: I just applied your changes, but yes it would be better in the future if you branched off the latest revision
[19:28] <everaldo> jbicha, ok, is there anything else that I can do to help you for 12.10?
[19:31] <jbicha> 12.10 is basically done, but the release notes aren't yet
[19:31] <everaldo> humm, my english is not so good :(
[19:33] <jbicha> oh ok, well if you can identify important user-visible bugs, you can add them to the release notes page and someone will come along and fix things if it's not quite right
[19:33] <jbicha> you could also work with the media to let people know what we've done this cycle
[19:34] <everaldo> right, I will do it
[19:35] <everaldo> and also send some text that could be used for release notes
[19:35] <jbicha> that could be especially valuable if you know of non-English news sites that would be interested
[19:37] <everaldo> I know some here in Brazil
[19:37] <everaldo> the most visited brazilian site about linux (br-linux.org) can help us
[19:38] <jbicha> cool
[19:42] <everaldo> jbicha, whats about a full review with screenshots and tips? do you think it could be interesting?
[19:45] <algarues> hello! I would like to discuss a potential bug in evolution and online contacts, is anybody available?
[19:45] <TheLordOfTime> if you think its a bug, file a bug?
[19:46] <algarues> well, I wanted to ask other users if they were experiencing the same problem first
[19:46] <TheLordOfTime> *sigh*
[19:46] <TheLordOfTime> lemme give you a bit of advice: "If you think its a bug, file a bug."
[19:46] <TheLordOfTime> and then reference the bug in here, to see if anyone confirms.
[19:46] <TheLordOfTime> i see this too often where people think there's a bug, nobody responds, so they dont file a bug
[19:47] <TheLordOfTime> note i'm biased: i'm on bugsquad / bugcontrol
[19:47] <TheLordOfTime> i'm used to dealing with these ;P
[19:47] <TheLordOfTime> i like seeing people filing bugs
[19:47] <TheLordOfTime> if its an already reported bug, we mark yours as a duplicate of another one
[19:47] <TheLordOfTime> if it hasnt been reported, but someone comes along and sees the bug, well... :p
[19:47] <TheLordOfTime> there we go.
[19:48] <algarues> so, anyway, is it confirmed that in the definitive version evolution will be the default email app for this flavour or is it going to be thunderbird?
[19:48] <TheLordOfTime> jbicha would knowe
[19:48] <TheLordOfTime> know*
[19:48] <TheLordOfTime> i'm just hteir bugcontrol contact.
[19:49] <TheLordOfTime> (or one of them)
[19:49] <darkxst> thunderbird isnt even in the image, so how could it be default?
[19:50] <algarues> I am going to file a bug, but anyway I am experiencing that the details of my google online account do not get stored and thus I have always an empty contacts list and after setting up my gmail imap account in evolution, the details of my account are instantly deleted
[19:51] <darkxst> algarues, this maybe? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/1049028
[19:51] <darkxst> but if not, file a new bug
[19:53] <algarues> yes, it is exactly that. I was bit puzzled because I am using the gnome-remix of precise and it works perfectly, so I thought It was rather on me than on the software :P
[19:53] <algarues> on another partition
[19:55] <algarues> thank you anyway
[19:58]  * everaldo will try evolution, don't use it for years now
[22:21] <darkxst> how does a single bug report end up covering like 20 different bugs!
[22:21] <darkxst> "gnome shell randomly crashes"
[22:22] <darkxst> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/889706
[23:15] <darkxst> jbicha, I filed the gmail bug upstream, since I can reproduce it under jhbuild. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=686188