[08:28] <czajkowski> morning
[08:29] <zmoylan> all well?
[08:31] <czajkowski> still bunged up :/
[08:31] <czajkowski> but getting there
[08:33] <zmoylan> i prescribe a good irish brekkie with a few pork sausages sambos.  won't cure you but you'll feel better :-)
[08:34] <czajkowski> heh
[08:34] <czajkowski> a week of this is begining to drag
[08:34] <czajkowski> but at least last night I got sleep without coughing allnight long
[08:35] <zmoylan> it always amazes me that your body suppresses the coughing when you sleep and then about 5 mins after waking up. :-/
[08:41] <czajkowski> zmoylan: yeah for the last ew nights it wasnt being that kind
[08:41] <czajkowski> was getting up and dtinking the cough bottle mixture :)
[08:42] <zmoylan> very unpleasent.
[08:42] <czajkowski> indeed
[08:42] <zmoylan> saw your tweet over the weekend re your dad, arthritis?
[08:42] <czajkowski> turns out bbots own brand for chest cough and congestion relief is gret
[08:42] <czajkowski> yeah he has that in his neck so he had an injection the other day to help relief the tension
[08:43] <czajkowski> but it's made him worse
[08:43] <zmoylan> generics can be better.  they're not paying a fortune on marketing
[08:43] <czajkowski> he cant turn his neck
[08:43] <zmoylan> pain for me was greatly relieved by folk remedy.  apple cider vinegar.
[08:43] <zmoylan> after 2-3 weeks it made a noticeable difference.
[08:44] <zmoylan> and i'm not a fan of folk remedies usually.  just wish i could find a scientific test that show it worked or didn't.
[08:44] <czajkowski> nods
[08:45] <zmoylan> but the painkillers they had me on only took the edge off the pain
[08:45] <zmoylan> it becomes recursive
[08:48] <czajkowski> he's not the best of patients either
[08:48] <czajkowski> so a bad combination
[08:48] <czajkowski> just irked then he went to gp recently and was told to walk through the pain in his groin area
[08:48] <czajkowski> so now he cant go for walks or stand for long
[08:48] <czajkowski> which is really making him unhappy
[08:49] <zmoylan> well my aunt was told the same.  she spent the last 30 years of her life in a wheelchair.  but then again i've had a form of arthritis for 2-3 years in only one joint.  it's easy to say that and bloody hard to do it.
[08:50] <zmoylan> of course my fathers gp told him when he was 50 to stop smoking and drinking.  he never smoke or drank in his life. :-/
[08:53] <zmoylan> if i hadn't of listened to my specialists i would have been sent for 1-2 extra procedures as they didn't have the time to plough through my massive medical files and see i had already being sent for them in the past when i was in different hospitals.
[08:59] <zmoylan> but whatever happens, hope you're dad is feeling better soon.
[09:00] <czajkowski> thanks
[09:00] <czajkowski> trying to gt him to go back to the gp this week
[09:00] <zmoylan> try a different gp?
[09:01] <czajkowski> he feels like its wasting nother €60 to be told walk it off
[09:01] <czajkowski> she knows all his past medical history
[09:01] <zmoylan> can't hurt to have someone elses opinion
[09:03] <czajkowski> indeed
[09:04] <zmoylan> and it's a trip to a different location which is out and about in itself
[10:10] <ebel> I've requested the next batch of DVDs for the release
[10:14] <slashbel> 64bit?
[10:15]  * slashbel cannot shift the 32 bit, nobody has these old computers anymore
[10:20] <ebel> they are all the same, i presume 32 bit
[10:22] <slashbel> :(
[10:23] <slashbel> the server disc is 64bit
[10:23] <czajkowski> yeah there was a disucssion at uds about all desktops being 64 bits
[10:24] <czajkowski> but it was felt many locoteams and counteries still use 32
[10:24] <czajkowski> but with more and more stuff being multiarch it wouldnt be an issue
[10:24] <zmoylan> linux is installed on mainly older computers... to start with.
[10:39] <Desty> it's on my 9 year old Acer laptop at home, working fine since I removed Nouveau :)
[10:39] <Desty> very much 32-bit...
[10:44] <czajkowski> Desty: good to hear
[12:01] <ebel> meh, 32 bit isn't going to be a problem for lots of people
[12:01] <ebel> I wonder aswell, will people try it on an older machine they have lyign around?
[12:01] <ebel> rather than their new one
[20:55] <airurando> nice pics of czajkowski and tdr112 in the mix at https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/108694704377125707359/albums/5799626659318285313
[20:56] <airurando> tip: scroll down a fair bit!!