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mfischI'm working on a bug that affects lightdm (ubuntu) and "precise", so I assign both of them to myself?03:59
mfischhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/88731603:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 887316 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "/var/lib/lightdm files owned by invalid user after reinstall (directory should be clean when lightdm is removed)" [Low,In progress]03:59
mfischI don't understand the purpose of the 2nd piece of the bug "Precise - Confirmed - etc"04:00
TheLordOfTimemfisch, because it could be fixed in Quantal before Precise04:55
TheLordOfTimesince Precise needs most bugs SRU'd to get them updated in those repos04:55
dholbachgood morning06:34
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Laneyhey08:35
Laneydholbach: I got my webcam ;-)08:35
Laneycomes with a stupidly short cable though, so it won't actually reach from the monitor to the USB port08:36
MCR1Hey all: I need a volunteer to help with bug 96811208:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 968112 in emerald (Ubuntu) "Emerald (the original Compiz Window Decorator) not available in Precise and Quantal, while it was working on all Ubuntu versions before [needs-packaging]" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96811208:43
MCR1Probably it was not packaged anymore, because standard compilation procedure did not work anymore in Precise.08:44
MCR1I added all info to the description of the bug.08:45
MCR1Is there anything more I can do to get this packaged again ?08:45
MCR1(it is not for me as I know how to get it to work locally, but it should be available for the average user as well as it is a regression for everyone who was happy with Emerald before Precise)08:46
dholbachLaney, yeehaw08:58
mitya57hey dholbach, did you see my packaging guide branch? are you ok with such a big diff or should I split it into separate per-change merge proposals?09:54
dholbachmitya57, to be honest I didn't have a chance to look into it yet09:55
dholbachI got the mail, but got entangled in a few other things09:55
mitya57dholbach: nothing urgent, so please let me know if i should split it ;)09:56
dholbachwill do09:56
dholbachthanks a lot mitya57 for your work on it!09:56
Laneysiretart: can you check https://launchpadlibrarian.net/119785886/buildlog_ubuntu-quantal-amd64.handbrake_0.9.8%2Bdfsg1-1~19.gbpc8b9ba~ubuntu12.10_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz please?11:10
siretartLaney: smells like upstream should have a serious look at this issue11:16
Laneysure does11:16
siretart../libhb/decavcodec.c:1488:17: warning: implicit declaration of function 'av_audio_convert_alloc' [-Wimplicit-function-declaration]11:17
siretarti suspect that handbrake misses some #include statement to fix this11:17
siretartLaney: what ppa is that? I persume you tried to import the debian package to ubuntu?11:20
Laneysiretart: no ppa, quantal-backports11:20
siretarterr, and where is this package backported from? development of the r-series hasn't started yet afaiui11:22
Laneycorrect, it's an new thing11:22
siretartah, i see. you directly uploaded it directly. I wasn't aware that this was covered by the current backporters policy.11:26
Laneyyeah, backporters started a new policy of uploading stuff directly there during freeze11:27
siretartLaney: where are those policies discussed these days?11:28
Laneysiretart: I think we talked about it in here and at UDS, and then it was taken to the TB so on their mailing list and in an IRC meeting11:28
Laneyit is true that we haven't announced it yet11:29
Laneyit's still a bit experimental11:29
siretartLaney: ok. well, technically I'm still a member of that team, admittedly, I wasn't very active lately, but I'm working on that.11:30
Laneyfair enough11:30
Laneywe'd definitely welcome more active members11:30
siretartso I'd really appreciate if https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports could be kept up-to-date11:30
Laneyeveryone is quite busy, as usual11:30
Laneyyeah i expect to communicate it quite soon hopefully11:31
siretartthanks11:31
siretartas for the warning, it also applies to debian, so it should definitly be filed as a bug11:31
siretartcan you do that?11:31
siretartthe handbrake package in debian is currently in experimental for a reason. for ubuntu, john stebbins provides wonderfully working packages11:32
siretartwhile functional, they are unfortunately not really appropriate for the main archive :(11:33
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Zhenechdoes ubuntu have a public lintian host like lintian.d.o?11:52
cjwatsonlintian.ubuntuwire.org11:52
Zhenechah ubuntuwire, thanks!11:52
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TheLordOfTimeany MOTU around?18:22
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mfischTheLordOfTime: thanks for the answer last night18:44
TheLordOfTimehm?  remind me which answer where...?18:44
* TheLordOfTime yawns18:45
TheLordOfTimeanyways, i know jbicha's alive, but MOTU questions exist now.  in the nginx package in Precise, in Universe, 1.1.19 is pretty broken18:45
TheLordOfTimesegfaulty, its got misconfigurations, etc.18:45
TheLordOfTimethe nginx team on their mailing list is basically not supporting 1.1.19, some of the upstream are asking whether we can upgrade the precise versino in the  repos to something more recent18:46
TheLordOfTimecorrect me if i'm wrong, but that's frowned upon, right?18:46
mfischTheLordOfTime: it was a question about bug reports18:46
TheLordOfTimemfisch, ah18:46
TheLordOfTimemfisch, bug reports are awsum :p18:46
mfischSleep was awesomer which is why I missed your answer until this morning18:47
* TheLordOfTime yawns18:47
TheLordOfTimei probably forgot giving the answer to a question... *checks*18:47
TheLordOfTimethis was... about when?18:47
* TheLordOfTime yawns again18:47
TheLordOfTimeurgh, coffee is needed :/18:48
mfischTheLordOfTime: last night, about 14 hours ago, but it's not a big deal18:48
TheLordOfTimei'm curious now :/18:48
mfischTheLordOfTime> 22:55:28> mfisch, because it could be fixed in Quantal before Precise18:48
mfischShouldn't a time lord have a handle on when he did certain things?18:49
TheLordOfTimemfisch, not when he's sleep deprived :p18:49
* TheLordOfTime hasnt had decent sleep in 3 days18:49
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TheLordOfTimenow, i still need an answer about that nginx thing19:02
micahgTheLordOfTime: if 1.1.9 is totally broke, an SRU of 1.2.0 could be entertained19:22
TheLordOfTimemicahg, its significantly broke.  a crucial command, try_files, which basically tells nginx "Try [this file] and then [this file] and then [this file], and if all else fails, try [final file], then error out." is somewhat broken19:23
TheLordOfTimethere's other errors too apparently19:23
TheLordOfTimeand the nginx mailing list says "yeah, upgrade to fix that.  kthxbai."19:23
TheLordOfTime(basically)19:23
micahgTheLordOfTime: if it's one bug or a few, a cherry pick is preferred, if the current version is unusable, then a new version might make more sense19:23
TheLordOfTimei'd have to dig around for 1.2.0, not sure if i can even find taht anymore19:23
TheLordOfTimemicahg, that's what i told them :p19:23
TheLordOfTimeits *usable*, but just barely19:23
micahgTheLordOfTime: well, once you're jumping versions, might as well backport from quantal19:24
TheLordOfTimemhm19:24
micahgTheLordOfTime: if it's usable, maybe an actual backport is better (though would be nice to fix the bugs)19:24
TheLordOfTimemicahg, i'm in agreement on both points19:24
TheLordOfTimebut that's not my call, i'm not the maintainer for nginx, just one of its triagers.  that, and i cant exactly test every package produced by nginx19:25
TheLordOfTime(in the backport tests)19:25
micahgUbuntu doesn't have maintainers19:25
micahg:)19:25
TheLordOfTime:P19:26
TheLordOfTimemicahg, is there  a way to see what uploads have been sponsored for me?  throughout history, not just pending.19:32
TheLordOfTime(since i'd know what's pending :P)19:32
micahgTheLordOfTime: http://ubuntu-dev.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu-sponsorships.cgi19:32
TheLordOfTimethanks19:33
TheLordOfTimemicahg, can you set what a bug applies to (release-wise)?  because there's an nginx bug that affects precise, but afaict does not affect Quantal19:34
TheLordOfTimehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nginx/+bug/1065555  <-- this one needs set against Precise19:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1065555 in nginx (Ubuntu) "Known segfault in 1.1.19 (the current stable)" [High,In progress]19:35
micahgTheLordOfTime: nominate for series19:36
micahgTheLordOfTime: task added, feel free to clean it up19:36
TheLordOfTimemicahg, that bug there is also one of the main 'broken' ones19:36
TheLordOfTimethanks.  also, that bug is what prompted upstream's request for version bumping, although i could easily cherrypick the changes to fix it19:37
TheLordOfTime*shrugs*19:37
TheLordOfTimemicahg, i'm going to cherrypick the fix, since its a one-liner19:42
TheLordOfTimemicahg, i assume there's an additional group you'd need to set the series nomination without waiting for approval?19:48
TheLordOfTime(bugcontrol can't just "do that")19:48
micahgTheLordOfTime: uploaders or release-drivers19:48
TheLordOfTimethought so19:49
rigidi'm trying to build a .deb for my gtk+2.0 project but the binary isn't included (despite "make install" normally installs it into /usr/bin) ... the .deb just contains CONTENTS/usr/share/doc/... did I run into a common pitfall?20:01
rigidany hints appreciated20:01
rigidthe /tmp directory correctly contains all the necessary files20:09
micahgahasenack: is landscape-client the only landscape related package inthe archive?20:09
micahg(moved here since the TB meeting is imminent)20:09
ahasenackmicahg: source, yes, but there are more binaries20:09
micahgahasenack: right, was just wondering if we needed a packageset or not...20:10
micahgthat's fine20:10
ahasenackmicahg: ok20:10
rigidi use "dh_make --createorig --single && dpkg-buildpackage -b" to build the .deb (i could paste the whole script & debian/ directory if necessary)20:10
rigidthey don't throw any errors btw. and the same method works fine for other packages20:12
rigid...but I guess this is not so common :)20:12
rigidis there a way to find out how ubuntu packages are created? e.g. how gcalctool 6.6.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb was created?21:04
TheLordOfTimedownload the source package and look through it?  a lot of Ubuntu packages are synced from Debian21:04
TheLordOfTimeor based off of Debian versions21:05
micahgrigid: pull-lp-source gcalctool 6.6.0-0ubuntu121:06
rigidah21:07
rigidTheLordOfTime: micahg thank you21:07
rigidhm... but that doesn't contain the dpkg-buildpackage/pbuilder command used to create the .deb, does it?21:08
micahgrigid: archive packages are built with a hacked version of sbuild21:08
rigidhm... that doesn't help much :) but thanks anyway21:09
micahgshould just be debuild -b on i386 or debuild -B on amd64 (or something similar)21:09
TheLordOfTimeor read the pbuilder manpages to learn how to use pbuilder21:09
TheLordOfTime(no offense, had to say it)21:09
rigidi tried that before. currently i'm using dpkg-buildpackage but always the same error... I guess the error is in my configure.ac21:10
rigidI didn't try pbuilder, tho...21:10
micahgwell, learning pbuilder won't help you understand how the in-archive packages are made21:10
micahgit's a decent substitute most of the time though21:10
TheLordOfTimemicahg, true.21:11
TheLordOfTimemicahg, speaking of archives, is there any difference between Dev Membership Board application process, and the process to get per-package rights for a universe package? (I assume not)21:11
micahgTheLordOfTime: umm, not sure what you mean by "Dev Membership Board application process"21:12
TheLordOfTimeone moment21:12
TheLordOfTimehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers#PerPackage  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/ApplicationProcess21:12
TheLordOfTimei assume that covers PPU rights for universe packages as well?21:12
micahgTheLordOfTime: pretty much21:13
TheLordOfTime(resend due to a send queue flush) micahg:  when we update a package with ubuntu only changes, from the Debian revision number, does it become -1ubuntu0, or -1ubuntu1 ?21:49
TheLordOfTime(SRUs)21:50
ScottKThere's no set rule.21:55
ScottKI would do -1ubuntu0.121:56
slangasekthere's a strong guideline though, in the form of the security team's versioning scheme which is linked from the SRU wiki page21:56
TheLordOfTimeah there we go, ScottK's right on that21:58
ScottKRight, the suggestion wasn't random.21:58
TheLordOfTimewho gets the sponsoring purview, MOTU or the normal sponsors team?  since the nginx package is considered universe21:59
ScottKThere's only one sponsoring team.21:59
ScottKFor universe/main combined.22:00
ScottK(subscribe ubuntu-sponsors and ubuntu-sru to the bug)22:00
TheLordOfTimewill do.  one last question, this always shows up...22:01
TheLordOfTimehow to resolve this: dpkg-buildpackage: error: dpkg-source -b nginx-1.1.19 gave error exit status 25522:01
TheLordOfTimeerm22:01
TheLordOfTimewrong line one sec22:01
TheLordOfTimedpkg-source: error: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but Maintainer: does not have Ubuntu address  <-- that22:02
TheLordOfTime... nevermind22:02
TheLordOfTimeScottK:  should I subscribe both sponsors and SRU to the bug simultaneously, or should I wait for sponsors to handle the queuing of the upload first?22:12
ScottKBoth.22:12
TheLordOfTimedone :)22:17
TheLordOfTimenow if only my networking card were more stable22:18

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