[01:34] <bootljhfdsds> night Y'all.
[04:37] <soreau> cool google doodle today
[07:35] <christel> GOOD MORNING :D
[07:37] <soreau> zomg'mornin
[07:37] <christel> \o/
[07:38] <andyc> Morning all
[08:11]  * mattt is uber tired today
[08:11] <mattt> heeeeelp
[08:11] <SuperMatt> I guess we should be wishing everyone best of luck today and for the rest of the week
[08:28] <JamesTait> Happy Monday, everyone! :-D
[08:29]  * JamesTait pokes christel
[08:29]  * gord hisses
[08:29]  * JamesTait wishes SuperMatt good luck.
[08:30] <JamesTait> I was very pleased not to see a return of yesterday's frost this morning.
[08:32] <AlanBell> popey: camera draws 3w idle, max of 8w with the motors doing stuff, and 4w in the dark with the IR LEDs on
[08:39] <christel> heey JamesTait <3
[08:39] <JamesTait> Hey christel, how are you my lovely?
[08:39] <christel> i am well!
[08:39] <christel> thyself?
[08:40] <JamesTait> I'm a little cold, and a little sniffly, but overall not too bad. :)
[08:41] <popey> AlanBell, ta
[08:44] <mungojerry> hi guys, got a question...i want to use 2 low powered laptops as single purpose irc workstations - any thoughts? mininmal linux install, any kind of DE recommended? or just use console ?
[08:46] <mungojerry> want to boot quicklly and straight into the irc session.
[08:48] <dwatkins> I use lubuntu and have an SSD in my netbook, boots in about 8 seconds, mungojerry
[08:49] <mungojerry> i want lighter weight than lubuntu or xfce even dwatkins
[08:49] <mungojerry> these are gonna be old laptops
[08:49] <mungojerry> no budget for new stuff
[08:49] <dwatkins> you could uninstall X-windows, I guess
[08:49] <mungojerry> and want only wifi and text based irc client
[08:49] <dwatkins> not sure if there's a Debian text-only distro any more
[09:00] <popey> you can do a text-only ubuntu install
[09:00] <popey> and then install irssi or whatever text based irc client you want
[09:17] <mungojerry> i was thinking of doing that, wondered if there was a better solution
[09:22] <popey> whats the use case?
[09:22] <popey> you just want a dedicated irc machine?
[09:23] <popey> what spec are the laptops, I mean you saiud "low powered", how low?
[09:23] <AlanBell> mungojerry: I would install a desktop to get the font handling
[09:24] <mungojerry> popey, in a setup where sound engineers are communicating with each other over wifi during setup, soundcheck and during the live events, occuring on a weekly basis. its chartiable and there's no budget, however i can probably get some lower spec laptops to use
[09:24] <mungojerry> by lower spec i'm not sure but i want lightweight single purpose devices
[09:24] <popey> who will connect them to wifi?
[09:25] <popey> that's not straightforward on the command line
[09:25] <popey> I'd go for crunchbang personally
[09:25] <mungojerry> is that using openbox nowadays?
[09:26] <mungojerry> one of the laptops will run the irc server too
[09:26] <mungojerry> because the wifi will be internal
[09:26] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[09:26] <andyc> You can use netcfg to connect to wifi from the command line
[09:27] <mungojerry> i thought wpa supplicant did it
[09:28] <mungojerry> and created a config file
[09:28] <andyc> Yes: It wasn't much fun last time I tried it though
[09:33] <popey> are these two laptops the only two devices talking to eachother?
[09:33] <popey> i.e. no other machines?
[09:34] <hoover> hi folks
[09:38] <mungojerry> popey, probably, although others may be added (and even mobile devices possibly). i considered cat5 but i don't think its possible to run a cable between the 2 or 3 cinema screens, and isn't always based in the same screen each week
[09:38] <popey> i was just thinking irc may be overkill
[09:39] <popey> why not just use bonjour?
[09:39] <popey> that way as long as the network is up, they can chat, no need to faff about with an irc server
[09:39] <mungojerry> i've never used it
[09:40] <mungojerry> i'll have a look at it at lunchtime
[09:54] <popey> it's just a thing you enable in most chat clients which does auto-discovery over the lan
[09:54] <popey> so you can just instantly chat with people in the same area as you (as in the same LAN subnet)
[10:10] <davmor2> Morning all
[10:13] <gord> android apps not being pretty is a common complaint, i get it. but things could be worse... http://wmpoweruser.com/lets-draw-a-draw-something-clone-now-in-marketplace/
[10:29] <davmor2> czajkowski: Prod, Prod, Prod, Proddity Prod
[10:29] <czajkowski> davmor2: morning
[10:30] <davmor2> czajkowski: Hello
[11:20] <knightwise> moooornin
[11:21] <davmor2> knightwise: How do
[11:21] <knightwise> davmor2: doin fine; :) Listening back to the interview I did with @popey last week
[11:21] <knightwise> making sure I didn't make a fool of myself :)
[11:55] <andyc> Any tips for viewing pdfs in my browser with 12.10?  I've tried copying libpdf.so from chrome to my chromium folder but it crashes whenever I open a PDF :(
[11:55] <andyc> Is there an evince plugin or ...*shudders*... an Adobe one I can use?
[12:03] <andyc> Hooray! Fixed
[12:50] <selinuxium> Afternoon all   o/
[12:52] <knightwise> ehlo selinuxium
[12:53] <selinuxium> Long time, no see knightwise. How are you doing?
[12:53] <selinuxium> (my fault for hiding from IRC)
[12:54] <knightwise> selinuxium: we have been cold and lonely without you ;:o
[12:55] <selinuxium> :)
[12:56] <selinuxium> It is quiet in here... :/
[12:58] <knightwise> true
[13:01] <selinuxium> http://tumbleweed.popey.com/
[13:01] <czajkowski> lunch time has that affect
[13:01] <davmor2> people are busy 3 days left
[13:02] <knightwise> ah yes , I forget :)
[13:02] <knightwise> 3 pm here
[13:10] <theopensourcerer> I am a searching "GOD" :-) https://plus.google.com/u/0/104060033182234025482/posts/dsPJERDFLKR
[13:13] <davmor2> theopensourcerer: re-reading that line now makes a lot more sense, I read it as I am searching "GOD" and was expecting an image that just had a million billion trillion results or something daft :D
[13:15] <theopensourcerer> lol
[13:16] <theopensourcerer> Time to head off - got to do the school run today.
[13:46]  * knightwise has to go and switch the backup tape .. playing standin for our field engineer guy today ...
[13:46] <knightwise> its been a looooong time since I had to swap a tape
[13:54] <andyc> Am I stupid or am I using Rhythmbox wrong?  It always stops after a track has finished playing even when I've queued some up...
[14:14] <xnox> andyc: depends if you started the first track from "playing now" or from a library selection narrowed down to one song.
[15:08] <directhex> huh. the midget just rolled over. this sets a dangerous precedent.
[15:10] <AlanBell> directhex: will be borrowing the car next
[15:11] <AlanBell> (some details happen inbetween)
[15:14] <czajkowski> directhex: poor kid!
[15:16] <christel> MartijnVdS: i have a confession to make, i couldn't wait any longer for AlanBell to invite me for coffee so i have OPENED ONE OF THE BAGS OF KRUIDNOTEN
[15:16] <christel> AND IT TASTES OF ALL KINDS OF AWESOME
[15:16] <christel> (and i might eat them all and die)
[15:25] <kjalil> @christel: a kind of ginger biscuit? (never had them)
[15:25] <kjalil> lol, bad habit from twitter of putting an @ sign in front :-)
[15:46] <mungojerry> anyone used office 2010 with playonlinux? i'm missing a title bar
[15:46] <mungojerry> under gnome shell on ubuntu
[15:51] <SuperMatt> does it work under any other desktop environments?
[15:59] <en-sv-bo> I have a asus k53u notebook, which holds an internal Hard drive with a windows seven partition, and a smaller ubuntu 12.10 partition, i need to make a complete image of this drive of as a back up, the drive is a western digital Model = WDC WD3200BPVT-80JJ5T0, FwRev=01.01A01, SerialNo=WD-WXD1E71MZRA1   Please can someone help me make such an image or file that would enable me to restore the entire disk to it's original state if t
[15:59] <SuperMatt> ok, so the first question is, was stuff do you have available to you to back up on to?
[16:01] <en-sv-bo> I have a 1 tb western digital drive with 400gb free, it is connected via USB v2
[16:01] <SuperMatt> all right, what you need is a disk imaging tool
[16:02] <SuperMatt> aha, brilliant
[16:02] <SuperMatt> load up the application called disks
[16:02] <en-sv-bo> SuperMatt:  That does more than the standard backup tool?
[16:02] <SuperMatt> yup
[16:02] <SuperMatt> click on your HDD that you want to image, and click on the cogs icon in the top right. From there you can "create disk image" of your HDD
[16:02] <en-sv-bo> ~$ disks No command 'disks' found, did you mean:  Command 'udisks' from package 'udisks' (main)  Command 'diskd' from package 'fdutils' (universe) disks: command not found
[16:03] <SuperMatt> not from the command line
[16:03] <SuperMatt> do it from the launcher
[16:03] <en-sv-bo> I am not in a live enviroment
[16:04] <en-sv-bo> I have loaded disks
[16:04] <SuperMatt> well, you can do this
[16:04] <SuperMatt> dd if=/dev/<your disk device> of=/mount/<your usb drive>/disk.img bs=1M
[16:04] <SuperMatt> but that's a VERY dangerous command if you don't get it right
[16:05] <MartijnVdS> christel: which one did you open? :)
[16:05] <en-sv-bo> SuperMatt:  I am a noob
[16:05] <SuperMatt> right, I *really* wouldn't do this from command line
[16:05] <en-sv-bo> ok
[16:05] <SuperMatt> I'd do it from a live CD with the GUI loaded
[16:06] <en-sv-bo> Azelphur tried two programmes before by using x11 to ssh to my machine and do it for me...
[16:06] <en-sv-bo> they failed after a while, i think dd was one of them
[16:06] <christel> MartijnVdS: the chocolate ones! :D
[16:06] <SuperMatt> it's not worth it when the disks app can do it for you
[16:07] <MartijnVdS> christel: those are the best :)
[16:09] <SuperMatt> en-sv-bo: let me know when you're in the UI
[16:10] <en-sv-bo> I am making an image of the 1tb drive first as a precation and using disks to do this. I was unawair disks could do that
[16:10] <en-sv-bo> Thank you for your help SuperMatt
[16:10] <en-sv-bo> i will let you know how i get on with this task
[16:11] <SuperMatt> you're welcome
[16:24] <bootljhfdsds> Top Class search results if you wanna chortle ::: http://goo.gl/3m90r
[16:26] <en-sv-bo> bootljhfdsds: will it educate me?
[16:57] <bootljhfdsds> en-sv-bo, No Sir, It will not.
[16:57] <bootljhfdsds> unless you are into laughology !
[16:58] <Azelphur> SuperMatt: I tried to dd her drive before, she's hitting filesystem file size limits on her external drive
[16:58] <Azelphur> at least, that was the conclusion I came to
[16:58]  * Azelphur waves at en-sv-bo
[18:25] <AlanBell> evening all
[18:25] <Myrtti> 'ning
[18:25] <AlanBell> I should do something about that cobweb http://ubingo.libertus.co.uk/cam/pad
[18:26] <Azelphur> I like the cobweb
[18:26] <Azelphur> it's very wobwebby
[18:26] <AlanBell> it is, maybe I will save it until after halloween
[18:28] <AlanBell> I didn't notice it during the day, shows up well with the infra red
[18:28] <christel> haha
[18:38] <AlanBell> how long will 4 AA batteries drive something that draws 3 watts at 5 volts?
[18:38] <AlanBell> or how do I work it out?
[18:41] <shauno> I think you need the mAh for the batteries?
[18:42] <shauno> watts = amps * volts.  so 3W = 0.6A * 5V.  so you're pulling 600mA, 1200mAh will last 2 hours?  (the last step I'm less sure on)
[18:43] <shauno> (and 1200 pulled out of nowhere, the AA's sat on my desk are 1900, for example)
[18:43] <AlanBell> sounds reasonable, I have a 2500 mAh rechargeable AA here
[18:44] <AlanBell> hmm, so 4 in series, err is that 2500mAh overall or do they add up?
[18:45] <shauno> I think in series the volts add up, in parallel the mAh add up
[18:45] <AlanBell> no, guess they wouldn't they are 2500mAh at 1.5v each, so 2500mAh at 6v between them
[18:45] <AlanBell> yeah, that is logical
[18:45] <AlanBell> so, with these batteries, 4 hours
[18:46] <shauno> (with a disclaimer that this is math I haven't touched since school, but it seems logical)
[18:46] <AlanBell> and they are actually 1.2v for the rechargeables so pretty close to the 5v the device is rated for
[18:46] <AlanBell> 4 of them would be 4.8v
[18:49] <AlanBell> long enough to be interesting for something, but not as long as I kind of hoped
[18:51] <en-sv-bo> anyone in Scotland?
[18:55] <Azelphur> I'm the opposite to in Scotland, does that count?
[18:59] <en-sv-bo> Azelphur: yeah i guess
[18:59] <Azelphur> yay \o/
[19:00] <en-sv-bo> but it does say a lot about your views on independence :P
[19:07] <ali1234> i say we let scotland become independent, and then invade it.
[19:08] <Azelphur> \o/
[19:08] <en-sv-bo> ali1234: well...
[19:09] <Azelphur> ali1234: fun fact, the SNP council dude is a bitcoiner
[19:09] <ali1234> which one?
[19:09]  * Azelphur checks his history again
[19:12] <Azelphur> ali1234: Councillor Math Campbell-Sturgess, http://www.mathcampbell.co.uk/
[19:12] <danfish> AlanBell: have alook at this site http://www.reuk.co.uk/Solar-Powered-Wireless-CCTV.htm  <--very good source of renewable stuff
[19:19] <shauno> personally, I think scottish independence is all the wrong way around.  it's england that should be looking for some independence
[19:20] <shauno> scotland, wales and NI all have their own assemblies, and england's does double-duty as the UK's assembly too.  no wonder the rest think there's some conflict of interest there
[19:30] <bootljhfdsds> danfish, That's good .. I esp. love the marks outta 5 bit.
[19:33] <danfish> bootljhfdsds: design is a little basic but loads of good info
[19:33] <bootljhfdsds> danfish, Is that you Dan W. ??
[19:36] <danfish> err, no
[19:44] <bootljhfdsds> Oh OK, sorry for asking..
[19:45] <danfish> no probs
[20:02] <diplo> Evening all
[20:07] <AlanBell> interesting stuff danfish
[20:09] <AlanBell> I do have a small redundant PV panel that comes with a rubbish LED security light
[20:10] <AlanBell> in fact the dual LED light thing to the left of my camera if you want to go have a look at it :)
[20:13] <AlanBell> I should measure the current draw on the other side of the transformer really
[20:32] <bigcalm> davmor2: Thursday on still?
[20:36] <danfish> AlanBell: I have one of those cameras on order so I'll do some measurements when it arrives
[20:36] <AlanBell> I chopped up the cable and resoldered it yesterday, didn't think to shove the multimeter on it at the time
[20:37] <danfish> where's it mounted now?
[20:37] <AlanBell> I even desoldered it and put it back together with the correct polarity
[20:37] <AlanBell> under the roof of the porch
[20:38] <danfish> looks good. Zoneminder has quite good support for those webcams I think
[20:38] <bigcalm> AlanBell: that is very good use of it
[20:39] <AlanBell> will be interesting to see if it survives the weather
[20:40] <bigcalm> I'll say
[20:40] <AlanBell> it is relatively sheltered from direct rain there
[20:40] <bigcalm> I don't have such a hideyhole any more
[20:40] <AlanBell> and as it is upside down the PCB is at the top, close to the thing it is screwed to
[20:42] <danfish> It should be OK for a while, but after a while the damp will creep in. You could get some PCB laquer from Maplins - protects things quite well IMO
[20:43] <bigcalm> Aye, not sure how well the camera itself will fair
[20:56] <AlanBell> well the main protection is that it is £35
[20:56] <dub_> Azelphur: ok so i\m on gparted on a live cd
[20:56] <AlanBell> if it breaks then the next one will be located in a more protected place
[20:57] <dub_> I moved windows down from 128 gb to 71 gb and have 79gb unallocated space
[20:57] <dub_> how do i give that 97gb to linux_
[20:58] <MartijnVdS> dub_: how are your partitions layed out?
[20:58] <AlanBell> danfish: I was looking at zoneminder earlier, I might get that set up for the motion sensing video stuff, there is a similar facility built into the camera
[20:58] <dub_> MartijnVdS: ?
[20:59] <dub_> anyone wanna vnc to my machine and help me?? i am a noob
[20:59] <AlanBell> I think it should be possible to hack the camera itself through the firmware upload tool and then maybe even install stuff direct on the board
[21:00] <MartijnVdS> dub_: you'd probably have to run "gparted" from the live CD
[21:00] <dub_> MartijnVdS: i am in a live cd
[21:01] <MartijnVdS> dub_: is Ubuntu already on the machine, or not?
[21:03] <danfish> AlanBell: this price is a bonus. I might house mine in one of a dummy CCTV case that are quite abundant on ebay
[21:03] <dub_> yes
[21:04] <dub_> umm a screenshot may help you mattt
[21:04] <dub_> umm a screenshot may help you MartijnVdS  sorry mattt
[21:05] <dub_> http://bayimg.com/GAEcLAaeC MartijnVdS
[21:07] <MartijnVdS> dub_: what are all the unknown partitions?
[21:07] <dub_> i dont know
[21:08] <dub_> I did reinstall ubuntu a few times using the automatic installer so perhaps they are swap from systems that are no longer installed
[21:10] <dub_> MartijnVdS: ?
[21:11] <MartijnVdS> I don't know
[21:13] <dub_> Azelphur: help
[21:13] <Azelphur> dub_: NEVAR
[21:13]  * Azelphur looks
[21:13] <Azelphur> that's a lot of partitions o.O
[21:13] <dub_> yeah
[21:13] <dub_> Hence why i would like to sort it
[21:14] <dub_> "you have 1 gb remaning" says linux |:>/
[21:15] <Azelphur> dub_: you need to move /dev/sda2, /dev/sda3 and /dev/sda4 to the left
[21:15] <Azelphur> so they are all at the beginning
[21:16] <dub_> Azelphur: you are awesome, would you mind doing it for me? please
[21:16] <dub_> You can take over my machine
[21:16] <dub_> like last time
[21:16] <Azelphur> dub_: haha, ok
[21:17] <Azelphur> you've backed up right?
[21:17] <dub_> as best i can
[21:17] <Azelphur> righto
[21:17] <dub_> yesh
[21:17] <Azelphur> :D
[21:17] <MartijnVdS> Azelphur: soundtrack for your backup? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo1cyl0QbWo
[21:17] <Azelphur> x11vnc --connect home.azelphur.com
[21:17] <dub_> i have linux baced up
[21:17] <Azelphur> MartijnVdS: :P
[21:17] <dub_> so i'm happy
[21:18] <dub_> x11vnc it cannot find
[21:18] <Azelphur> MartijnVdS: fun
[21:19] <Azelphur> dub_: livecd again?
[21:20] <dub_> i realised my err
[21:20] <Azelphur> :)
[21:22] <Azelphur> dub_: pull up gparted then :)
[21:22] <dub_> its a mess
[21:22] <Azelphur> it's ok to unmount everything right?
[21:23] <dub_> yes
[21:23] <Azelphur> ok
[21:25] <Azelphur> that's what you want right?
[21:26] <dub_> see that would that make sence and work still_
[21:27] <Azelphur> ah, you want to make sda2 smaller
[21:27] <Azelphur> I can do that, but I'll have to redo it a bit
[21:27] <Azelphur> you want the Linux partition to expand into the available space?
[21:27] <dub_> yes and the same with sda3
[21:27] <Azelphur> ok so you want sda2 to be 70gb
[21:28] <Azelphur> how big do you want sda3?
[21:28] <dub_> with xp there was something about 10% free space to work... i dunno about windows 7
[21:28] <Azelphur> yes you should leave a little bit of free space
[21:28] <Azelphur> to work with
[21:28] <MartijnVdS> gparted takes care of that by itself doesn't it?
[21:28] <dub_> sda3 is 40gb and is using like 10gb roughly
[21:29] <Azelphur> should I just leave 5gb free space on the end of those 2 ntfs partitions
[21:29] <Azelphur> and expand Linux into the available
[21:29] <Azelphur> that'd work fine
[21:29] <dub_> ok if 5gb works im happy
[21:31] <Azelphur> do you know what all those unknown partitions are?
[21:31] <Azelphur> lots of space is going to them
[21:31] <dub_> no
[21:31] <Azelphur> I wonder if they are swap partitions
[21:32] <dub_> its ubuntu 12.10
[21:32] <shauno> fwiw, file is quite good at figuring that out.  eg, file -s /dev/sda1
[21:33] <Azelphur> shauno: just says they are all "data"
[21:33] <shauno> I use that worryingly often to double-check which fs I'm about to nuke
[21:33] <Azelphur> they are inside Linuxes extended partition
[21:33] <dub_> Azelphur: sudo !! will gain you sudo access if you forgot to add sudo
[21:34] <dub_> only to the previous command
[21:34] <shauno> that's not a good sign.  I've not run up against a filesystem file won't identify
[21:34] <Azelphur> fun
[21:34] <Azelphur> well we dunno what they are
[21:34] <Azelphur> there's just a bunch of 5.6GB partitions there, all unknown
[21:34] <Azelphur> that's a lot of space to eat
[21:35] <dub_> Azelphur: i am banned from the usa so perhaps its something the government put there :P
[21:35] <dub_> lol
[21:35] <Azelphur> lol
[21:35] <Azelphur> dub_: do you use anything funky like truecrypt or something that would create all these weird partitions?
[21:35] <dub_> nope
[21:36] <dub_> wait
[21:36] <Azelphur> all those ones with the (!) they are unknown and 5.6GB a pop
[21:36] <dub_> dsnsec?
[21:36] <Azelphur> so that's 25GB that you could regain
[21:36] <Azelphur> nah, not dnssec
[21:36] <dub_> i have reinstalled ubuntu from livecds a few times
[21:36] <Azelphur> yea
[21:36] <Azelphur> this makes me think they are all swap
[21:36] <Azelphur> lemme check something
[21:37] <Azelphur> yep
[21:37] <Azelphur> they are all Linux swaps
[21:37] <Azelphur> we can delete those and get you another 25GB \o/
[21:38] <dub_> any chance you could divide that and give it to the windows partitions then or would that mean starting again?
[21:38] <dub_> lol
[21:39] <dub_> **evil**
[21:39] <Azelphur> hehe
[21:39] <Azelphur> how you want it laid out then?
[21:39] <dub_> oh and dont delete them ****all**** else linux wont work :P
[21:40] <dub_> i guess so
[21:40] <Azelphur> Linux would work fine without all of them
[21:40] <Azelphur> but yea, keep one
[21:40] <dub_> look on the bright side we now understand what weare doing  ***high fives***
[21:40] <dub_> lol
[21:41] <Azelphur> indeed \o/
[21:41] <Azelphur> dub_: I'll let you pick partition sizes shall I?
[21:41] <dub_> nope
[21:41] <Azelphur> lol
[21:41] <Azelphur> don't you know what sizes you want?
[21:41] <dub_> i haz dyscalclia
[21:41] <Azelphur> ah :P
[21:42] <dub_> i want windows and linux to work with lix being the main os
[21:42] <dub_> linux*
[21:42] <Azelphur> so you just want to give windows enough space to boot up and nothing else
[21:42] <Azelphur> and Linux to take all the rest?
[21:42] <dub_> boot and update
[21:42] <Azelphur> ok, so you actually wanna use Windows
[21:42] <Azelphur> best to leave it with a sane amount of space then
[21:43] <dub_> well i dont know what i am going to do with windows but right now the lack of knowlege about what i am going to do with windows would indicate a good idea to plan ahead
[21:43] <dub_> :P
[21:43] <dub_> the ability to do
[21:44] <dub_> is a good thing
[21:44] <Azelphur> ok
[21:44] <Azelphur> I'll leave windows with 20GB overhead then, you can increase it later if needed.
[21:44] <dub_> ok
[21:46] <Azelphur> that look good?
[21:46] <dub_> Sweet as a vegan apple pie
[21:46] <dub_> thanks
[21:46] <dub_> there is still one unknown there
[21:47] <Azelphur> that unknown is a swap partition
[21:47] <Azelphur> so you want one, really
[21:47] <Azelphur> just not 5 ;)
[21:47] <dub_> so there is EXT4 extended and unknown
[21:47] <Azelphur> yep, and unknown is swap.
[21:47] <dub_> ok
[21:47] <dub_> thank you
[21:47] <Azelphur> it might cause your system not to boot as the big warning messages said
[21:47] <Azelphur> but if that happens we can fix it in a livecd
[21:47] <dub_> safe to write these now?
[21:48] <Azelphur> I'd say so, yep :)
[21:48] <Azelphur> it looks good to me
[21:48] <dub_> wanna watch?
[21:48]  * Azelphur puts feet up
[21:49] <Azelphur> I saw that :P
[21:50] <Azelphur> :)
[21:51] <Azelphur> anyway that's gonna take a while so I'll jump off vnc, let me know how it goes :)
[21:51] <dub_> ok
[21:51] <Azelphur> also I'm an internet veteran, there's not a whole lot on the internet that can make me blush :)
[21:52] <dub_> one cup of chocolate fondent and two girls laterand you are eating those words
[21:52] <Azelphur> seen it
[21:52] <dub_> lol
[21:53] <Azelphur> probably more times than you'd think possible
[21:53] <dub_> really? you where at my little sisters party
[21:53] <dub_> o.0
[21:53] <Azelphur> lol
[21:53] <dub_> she stole a cup of fondent
[21:53] <dub_> we cought her and her friend eating it
[21:54] <Azelphur> :p
[21:54] <dub_> see all family friendly and in line with the ucc
[21:55] <Azelphur> indeed \o/
[21:55] <dub_> whereas your mind....
[22:45] <Azelphur> dub_: any luck?
[22:45] <dub_> still working on the first bit /copying files.
[22:45] <Azelphur> :p
[22:47] <dub_> on the plus side i just ordered some new prayer cards :*)
[22:48] <Azelphur> :)
[22:50] <dub_> when is the next LTS out? Azelphur
[22:51] <Azelphur> 3 days
[22:51] <dub_> the next LTS
[22:51] <Azelphur> oh
[22:51] <Azelphur> that'll be 3 years-ish I think
[22:51] <Azelphur> or 2, probably be 14.04
[22:52] <dub_> ok... so scobuntu then :P for when scotland is free from the oppression of  the english :P
[22:53] <Azelphur> xD
[22:53] <dub_> I am, going to install ubuntu LTS as it seems stable and not be so impatient as to rush into things
[22:54] <dub_> hope this repartitioning goes well first
[22:55] <Azelphur> dub_: but then you get old things :P
[22:55] <dub_> yes old things that are stable, safe, secure and umm lvm
[22:55] <dub_> encrypted
[22:56]  * dub_ deals with the usa and china often
[22:57] <dub_> Azelphur: you work for canonical?
[22:58] <Azelphur> nope
[22:59] <dub_> ok.
[23:00] <dub_> Azelphur: its moved /dev/sda2 to the left and shrank it from 128 to 74
[23:00] <xnox> full disk encryption with dm-crypt (luks) & lvm is readily available in the quantal installer though ;-)
[23:00] <Azelphur> :)
[23:01] <dub_> and the rest of it all done
[23:01] <dub_> and now its onto moving the /dev/sda6  to the left and gowing it from 76 to 198
[23:02] <dub_> 59 mins remaining
[23:09] <dub_> 13.15% done
[23:10] <Azelphur> hehe, long run
[23:12] <dub_> final stage- it's adding 121.46gb on to what was already there
[23:13] <dub_> moving*
[23:13] <Azelphur> :)
[23:15] <dub_> wooop 20 gb moved of 76gb
[23:20] <shauno> now that's what I call a diet :)  http://cl.ly/image/0F0x0z2U1o0K
[23:22] <dub_> Azelphur:  still thinking about the sda5 thats unknown is that not supposed to be formatted to linux swap_
[23:23] <Azelphur> dub_: no, it /is/ Linux swap
[23:23] <Azelphur> gparted just doesn't recognise it for no apparent reason
[23:23] <dub_> it would allow me to format it to be linux swap,  woudl this help or hinder the machine/
[23:24] <dub_> Azelphur: @
[23:25] <Azelphur> dub_: just leave that partition alone, it really is Linux swap
[23:25] <Azelphur> gparted is just not identifying it
[23:25] <Azelphur> I checked it with fdisk and it sees it as linux swap :)
[23:25]  * dub_ looks sad like a puppy
[23:25] <dub_> ok
[23:25] <Azelphur> hehe
[23:25] <Azelphur> when you boot up we can test if it's mounted correctly
[23:31]  * xnox the new asus laptops with ubuntu look very nice =)
[23:31] <Azelphur> hehe
[23:32] <dub_> xnox: mine was a spur of the monet thing 3900:- later and i cried