[14:03] <xTEMPx> whee!
[14:03] <xTEMPLARx> wow
[14:03] <xTEMPLARx> its been quiet since I've been gone
[14:08] <alyawn> it seems the latest beta nvidia driver fixes the unity hidden launcher bug.... yay
[14:17] <xTEMPLARx> hooray!
[14:17]  * xTEMPLARx is glad he isn't using Unity!
[14:19] <xTEMPLARx> I have my home machine re-done with 12.10 beta2, but gnome-shell refuses to function on it.  I'm gonna wait until there's a proper release that'll work with gnome-shell and NO Unity before I redo it
[14:19] <xTEMPLARx> I gave arch a shot, but I just don't have the patience for it these days
[14:25] <alyawn> yeah.. me either
[14:25] <alyawn> I was anti-unity, but it seems to be stable now..
[14:26] <xTEMPLARx> Mine isn't an issue with it's stability, but more of its usability and intuitive-ness
[14:26] <xTEMPLARx> I didn't "take" to it
[14:26] <xTEMPLARx> but I took to Gnome Shell pretty quickly, and its a similar paradigm
[14:26] <alyawn> ah...
[14:27] <xTEMPLARx> I gave Unity the old college try for a while, but kept running into road blocks that kept me from getting my work done, while gnome shell really hasn't
[14:27] <xTEMPLARx> :D
[14:27] <alyawn> these days I'm more likely to take what comes in the distro by default in an attempt to get back to work quicker
[14:27] <xTEMPLARx> i hear ya
[14:27] <alyawn> :)
[14:27] <xTEMPLARx> which is partly why I'm waiting for 12.10 to give me a more proper gnome shell installation option than it has right now
[14:27] <xTEMPLARx> I don't want to fiddle with it
[14:27] <xTEMPLARx> I have very little time at home to fiddle with such things
[14:28] <xTEMPLARx> between a wife and a three-yr-old-about-to-be-four-yr-old, I have little free time
[14:28] <xTEMPLARx> :D
[14:28] <alyawn> yeah... funny how that fiddle-time allotment changes with age
[14:28] <xTEMPLARx> totally
[14:28] <alyawn> I have a wife and 3 kids...
[14:29] <xTEMPLARx> BROTHER
[14:29] <xTEMPLARx> you feel mah pain
[14:29] <alyawn> time and sleep are worth a lot to me :)
[14:29] <xTEMPLARx> t..time? sleep?  what are these things?!
[14:29] <alyawn> exactly
[14:31] <xTEMPLARx> and then, to compound things, I go and torture myself with projects that I can't really attend to, due to financial and time constraints
[14:31] <xTEMPLARx> argh!
[14:31] <xTEMPLARx> what's wrong with me?!
[14:31] <xTEMPLARx> its like I want to be tortured or something
[14:32] <alyawn> :)
[14:35] <xTEMPLARx> i needs a mig welder.  someone give me one they're not using.
[14:35] <xTEMPLARx> :D
[14:36] <alyawn> well... at least your projects seem to have a real-world component... Mine are purely virtual and, as far as the wife can tell, are vapor
[14:43] <xTEMPLARx> Hah.  I know that feel.
[14:44] <xTEMPLARx> hard to impress upon someone the importance of something they cannot see
[14:44] <xTEMPLARx> reminds me of the early days of the internet when I'd sit on IRC at a computer and be laughing my butt off.  The entire time my parents thought something was wrong with me
[14:50] <wrst> xTEMPLARx:  good vacation?
[14:51] <xTEMPLARx> wrst:  pretty nice.  I cannot complain
[14:51] <xTEMPLARx> well I can complain about my eating habits
[14:51] <xTEMPLARx> but the time off itself was pretty nice
[14:52] <wrst> I am off this week
[14:52] <wrst> I mean I am "off" all the time
[14:52] <wrst> but away from work
[14:53] <xTEMPLARx> :D
[14:53] <xTEMPLARx> enjoy yourself!
[14:53] <xTEMPLARx> I gave arch a short-lived try at home
[14:54] <xTEMPLARx> grub broke things though
[14:54] <xTEMPLARx> the instructions on the arch site didn't really make that simple
[14:54] <xTEMPLARx> made me wanna break something myself
[14:54] <xTEMPLARx> so I put 12.10  back on
[14:54] <xTEMPLARx> and am still just using the win7 partition
[14:57] <xTEMPLARx> wb alyawn
[14:58] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: I just use that dandy little mkconfig command and all usually comes out heavenly
[14:58] <xTEMPLARx> no idea what you're talking about
[14:58] <xTEMPLARx> lol
[14:58] <xTEMPLARx> i don't recall that in the instructions
[14:59] <xTEMPLARx> bbiaf, I gotta VPN to a customer's network, so I'll probably drop connection
[15:19] <jfenn2199> morning all
[15:32] <xTEMPLARx> I think I'm back... not sure yet.
[15:32] <xTEMPLARx> :D
[15:35] <alyawn> sort-of
[15:38] <xTEMPLARx> :D
[15:38] <xTEMPLARx> at least one other person here is alive
[15:38] <xTEMPLARx> I guess I can't expect wrst to keep me company since he's not working
[15:38] <xTEMPLARx> :D
[15:40] <alyawn> somewhat alive
[16:23] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: no way!
[16:25] <xTEMPLARx> unreliable is what you are
[16:26] <xTEMPLARx> selfishly thinking you can just not be here waiting for every line I may or may not type
[16:32] <wrst> I know xTEMPLARx I hate to disappoint people
[16:33] <xTEMPLARx> :)
[16:34] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: I'm cleaning my wife's car now so I'm more than happy to check my phone on occasion
[16:34] <xTEMPLARx> haha
[16:34] <xTEMPLARx> GET TO WORK, SLAVE!
[16:34] <wrst> it is nasty
[16:34] <xTEMPLARx> how's the young'un?