=== Kerbero is now known as Kerbero[afk] === Kerbero[afk] is now known as Kerbero [04:58] morning guys [05:31] hey Squirm [05:46] good news superfly booted this morning ran [05:46] echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward [05:46] iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp+ -j MASQUERADE [05:47] and had to do this again sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.1 [05:48] and pc2 is online [05:48] w00000t [05:48] seems like a reboot is required somewhere in all that [05:51] Kerbero, relax [05:55] good mornings [05:56] hi inetpro [05:56] dag goosie [05:56] hmm.... [05:56] Muffit == KilosU ? [05:57] my sussie se hdd [05:57] hehe [05:57] KilosU: jy meen jou sussie se PC [05:57] jy confuse ons met jou gepratery van 'n HDD [05:58] 'n HDD kan nie op sy eis werk nie [05:58] haar pc is winsuig dis die hardeskyf wat ek vir haar gedoen het met maverick [05:58] in my ander pc [05:58] ja ja [05:58] hehe [05:58] steeds die ander PC nie die HDD nie [05:59] HDD is irrelevant [05:59] as ek nou net goeie speletjies vir haar kan opsit sal sy vensters los [05:59] kan net sowel vanaf memory loop [05:59] sy speel elke dag AOE2 [06:00] om die dag se werk te vergeet [06:01] * Muffit greets #ubuntu-za [06:01] remember me guys [06:02] I am Kilos's sister [06:02] hiya maiatoday meeting tonight hey [06:02] hi KilosU [06:03] I'll try make it :) [06:03] hi maiatoday [06:03] time for you to take the minutes again [06:03] hi inetpro [06:03] please do maiatoday we miss you you know [06:03] sorry, I miss you guys too [06:04] inetpro, both pc's working through 3g [06:04] yay [06:04] dont ask how because i dunno [06:08] * KilosU making spaghetti bolognaise for tonight [06:08] KilosU: well done [06:09] ty sir [06:09] i can do anything with a little help from my friends [06:10] KilosU: just be aware that you're not using standard methods of connecting two PC's to the web [06:10] I'll get by with a little help from my friends [06:10] typically a router/switch would be involved to make your life a lot easier [06:11] whew tell me about it. ive installed gadmin and samba and arno [06:11] you basically made your main PC to be a router, not something the average guy does [06:11] and then uninstalled them but still got arno that didnt work before [06:12] yeah but im so happy. scared to switch off tonight [06:12] it's a good learning exercise [06:12] I guess it's not even something the average guy would ever do [06:13] only prob one doesnt get to do it repeatedly to get the method into subconscious [06:13] so did felix break the sound barrier [06:13] ? [06:14] KilosU: yep [06:14] wonderful [06:15] fell 119,846 ft before his parachute opened, 1348 km/h, Mach 1.24 [06:15] wow [06:16] have you got a pic of what his rig looked like. surely not open face with pipes for air [06:16] he was very close to being in trouble with his uncontrolled tumbling in all directions [06:16] eish [06:18] hi queery meeting tonight [06:23] KilosU: good to hear [06:25] now just have to work out how to do the same on kde [06:25] not today though [06:33] KilosU: if you did it on the command line, it is identical [06:34] i just dunno whats actually working. arno or iptables [06:34] but happy anyway [06:48] superfly: thanks for the help with the sqlite problem :) [06:48] zeref: did it work? [06:49] yep, database is been updated [06:49] wait, is it being or been??? [06:50] Morning [06:58] hi zeref sakhi [06:59] zeref, at the moment is being , been is already done [06:59] hi SmilyBorg_w [07:00] Hey there === SmilyBorg_w is now known as SmilyBorg [07:28] good morning [07:28] Maaz: coffee on [07:28] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [07:29] lo charlvn [07:29] Maaz, coffee please [07:29] KilosU: Sure [07:32] Coffee's ready for charlvn and KilosU! [07:33] Maaz, ty [07:33] You are welcome KilosU [07:39] Maaz: thanks [07:39] charlvn: No problem [07:39] hi KilosU [08:08] i am busy installing the beta2 of 12.10 inside vmware [08:09] so far so good, except one problem: the live cd didn't reboot properly after the install so i had to manually power down the vm [08:09] but after booting it back up again it's working fine [08:10] another weird thing is that i have a floppy disk icon in the left menu even though i don't have a floppy drive on this vm [08:10] lol [08:10] besides, who still uses floppies?! [08:11] they seem to be useful if you wanna update bios [08:11] they don't even sell them anymore - this workstation of mine is 4 years old and it doesn't even have a floppy drive [08:11] most new bios updaters have flash boot support as far as i know [08:12] they have to - you don't get floppy drives anymore. :) [08:13] on my pc it says save the update to floppy before flashing [08:14] KilosU: where do you buy the floppies? from a museum? :) [08:14] i got quite a few [08:14] the image that came to mind [08:14] you want some? [08:14] picture of indiana jones holding a floppy and saying "This belongs in a museum!" [08:15] i started here on a old 486 and nearly everything was on floppy [08:15] hehe Tonberry [08:16] with old pcs and using winsucks you need floppy to install software to make cdrom seen [08:16] well my first computer was an intel 80188 and it only had the old 5,25 inch floppies [08:16] those were floppies [08:16] i remember i used to do that even on my mom's old pentium 1 [08:16] these small ones are actually stiffies [08:16] first install dos, then install cd drivers, then windows [08:17] yeah but people only call them stiffies in south africa [08:17] overseas it's considered rude ;) [08:17] yip i remeber the dos installs [08:17] whew [08:17] ah [08:17] internationally stiffies are known as 3,5 inch floppies [08:17] even though they aren't floppy at all :) [08:17] lol [08:17] actually the whole floppy / stiffie naming is quite gross :P [08:18] you come to a noob and ask "do you have a floppy" and they get irritated with you [08:19] lol [08:19] modern peeps have dirty minds [08:20] minds have been dirty long before I was born [08:20] yup :D [08:20] lol [08:26] bbl work === Digi||Gram is now known as DigiGram [08:31] hi DigiGram [08:31] hi KilosU [09:41] hi drussell new week on the way hey [09:41] never ends [09:42] KilosU: Yup, Monday comes round all too quickly ;o) You have a good weekend? [09:42] yes ty drussell and you? [09:42] KilosU: great thanks! though always too short :o) [09:43] lol [09:43] one needs longer weekends to recover from the long weeks [09:56] hmm [09:56] im expanding [09:57] lol whats next? [09:57] this be from tinycorelinux [09:57] ah, that, I though next will be KilosS [10:00] for? [10:01] well, first it was U, the T, so if S was next, you will be going down to A [10:01] but now I presume U is for Ubuntu [10:01] so install slackware and you are on your way lol [10:01] U is for Unity [10:01] K is for kde [10:02] ah [10:02] didn't see the K one [10:02] lol i dont yet get soung when on irc so cant hear you guys [10:02] sound [10:03] tried quassel and xchat on kde, sigh, no sound [10:16] nice linux to use on very old pcs [10:16] minimal requirements [10:17] full running OS with xchat pidgin midori and updated all on a 1g drive [10:18] havent worked out how to see disk usage yet [10:18] gkrellm [10:19] ? [10:19] gkrellm shows disk usage [10:19] oh ty [10:20] can even have multiple desktops [10:20] hehe [10:20] nuvolari, ping [10:21] hi Banlam bakuman [10:21] hi KilosU [10:21] if yous are greeted directly you just lurk [10:21] arent [10:21] and bmg505 [10:21] haha, but I am here to lurk [10:22] haha [10:22] meeting tonight hey [10:23] where can I see the agenda? [10:29] oh yes we have a meeting tonight right? nice [10:34] sec [10:34] http://bit.ly/SKJR0j [10:35] sorry i took so long was checking tonights supper [10:35] bakuman, dont you follow us on twitter @ubuntuza [10:37] oh my, inetpro is that the right agenda up here? [10:37] if so i sent wrong one to twit place [10:40] superfly, can you remind sflr please thunderbird dont make lekker backups of email addys like evolution did [10:40] KilosU: remind about what? [10:41] and im scared to switch off [10:41] tonights meeting [10:41] oh and im still waiting for a mail from your company [10:43] KilosU i don't twitter much [10:43] but g+... [10:43] aw bakuman will get the pro to g+ it [10:44] hehe [10:44] what about emails bakuman [10:44] g+ eats data [10:44] i check my mails [10:44] are you on our lists [10:45] I still need to get the hang of g+ [10:45] ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com [10:49] do any of you guys have good and cheap ADSL routers to recommend? [10:50] afternoon [10:50] hi Squirm [10:51] what you wanna do DigiGram ? [10:51] for wqork? [10:51] work? [10:52] I'm getting ADSL at home, so I want an ADSL modem, but one with WiFi [10:52] I see they still sell some without wifi [10:53] hmmm [10:53] I would recommend a Netgear [10:53] not cheap, but it should last you quite a while [10:54] Just got that recommendation from someone else as well [10:54] I don't know the brands, and after I've used some D-Link gear at work, thats a no-go [10:54] I used to supply the DGN1000 [10:54] at cost from a supplier it was about R700 [10:55] but I've had no returns [10:55] to get it going I'll get an el-cheapo, that I can keep as a spare later on [10:57] DigiGram, how many pcs you wanna couple [10:58] Main HTPC can go via ethernet or wifi, laptop and room HTPC via wifi, and then 2 or 3 phones and iPad. On occasion another laptop or so [10:58] maybe look for a Trendnet modem? we use a few Trendnet products and they're reasonable. Haven't really had any issues with their switches/media converters/AP's [10:58] will have a look thanx [11:00] we get them from a supplier. but I think I've seen the routers in somwhere like Incredible Corruption. So you could find it on the shelf somewhere [11:00] just whatever you do, stay away from tenda [11:00] ooh, takealot sells Trendnt [11:00] *trendnet [11:10] Netgear N150 DGN1000 WIRELESS ADSL2 + MODEM ROUTER for R599 looks good [11:11] or TrendNET 300Mbps for R507 [11:11] maybe a better deal [11:24] yo amanica [11:24] meeting tonight [11:25] superfly, humour as in funny is spelt how [11:25] Maaz, spell humour [11:25] KilosU: That seems correct. Carry on [11:26] KilosU: yip, that's why I started up my irc client so long :) if I'm a little late I can at least catch up :) [11:26] lol [11:47] hi oom KilosU Ill be there I think [11:48] good [11:58] who will be running the meeting? [12:07] DigiGram: personally, I like the Negears [12:07] Netgear [12:07] I'll have a look Squirm [12:07] but if the Trendnet will keep up, then I don't mind [12:08] obviously if it only allows 2 wifi devices or something stupid like that, then I'll rather spend more [12:08] so far i think magespawn and/or inetpro [12:09] nuvolari, is house hunting [12:10] KilosU: hmm... [12:10] hehe [12:10] why you offering queery ? [12:11] why you telling people about the right agenda, is there a wrong agenda as well? [12:11] i think i sent the wrong one last time inetpro [12:11] KilosU: last time? [12:11] last week [12:11] KilosU: no you didn't [12:12] musta sent it before you changed it [12:12] oh my [12:12] i take back my apology then [12:13] inetpro, will you announce the meet on g+ too? [12:13] KilosU: that was done long ago [12:13] peeps forget [12:13] booked as an event [12:13] oh [12:14] me dunno events [12:14] only even here is 2 pcs one one 3g without router [12:14] major event [12:14] something like https://plus.google.com/112877206374340387802/posts [12:15] we need more peeps here [12:15] you see inna mail charles irons thinks he has nothing to contribute because hes old [12:16] he needs encouragement [12:16] KilosU: I have a day job [12:16] ja man [12:16] but you only start when others go home [12:16] * KilosU ducks [12:16] lol [12:17] hehe [12:20] oom KilosU i dont think so, dont know all the commands yet [12:20] lol [12:21] maiatoday, will teach everyone [12:24] maiatoday: are you arrending? [12:42] hmm someone else needs to look where the keys are [12:44] queery: I will try to attend [12:45] ahh maiatoday is here \o/ [13:11] hmmmm [13:12] ummm, can you add an exception for a particular string in python, using try... except...? [13:14] what would you like to achieve? [13:52] good afternoon [13:52] crazy day [13:52] Maaz: coffee on [13:52] * Maaz washes some mugs [13:53] Maaz, coffee please [13:53] DigiGram: Done [13:56] Coffee's ready for charlvn and DigiGram! [13:56] thanx Maaz [14:01] Maaz, announce Meeting here tonight @ 19.30. Don't be late [14:01] Hear ye, hear ye! Meeting here tonight @ 19.30. Don't be late === DigiGram is now known as Digi||Gram === KilosU is now known as Kilos [14:08] thats for those that cant use tab complete at tonights meeting [14:08] pong [14:08] * nuvolari lost track of reality [14:08] I saw my name was called [14:08] nuvolari, is jy ok seun? [14:08] * nuvolari searches [14:08] halfpad oom [14:09] baie werk [14:09] stoel jy vanaand? [14:09] hehe [14:09] is reg oom [14:09] hoe laat? [14:09] Maaz: thanks [14:09] charlvn: Sure [14:09] * nuvolari het niks prep onder hande nie [14:09] mooi dankie seun sien jou hier [14:09] hoe laat oom? [14:10] jy het n paar hure om te dink [14:10] 19.30 [14:11] http://bit.ly/SKJR0j [14:11] daar is die agenda [14:11] oh my is it same in english and afrikaans? [14:14] lol the poor kid didnt know who pinged him [14:14] SmilyBorg, meeting tonight [14:14] tumbleweed, you gonna attend? [14:14] Thanks Kilos. It's on my calendar [14:15] calenders only work if one looks at them now and again [14:15] or is yours like an alarm clock [14:15] mine notifies me 15 minutes before an event [14:15] on my phone, pc, etc [14:16] ah thats nice [14:16] Android + google calendar is pretty awesome [14:17] plustwo, you here lurking? [14:17] SubOracle, you too [14:17] Kilos: sure, suppose so [14:17] ty tumbleweed [14:18] * plustwo just got up... [14:18] wow [14:18] what country you in? [14:20] somalia... oom! [14:21] hehe do you work nightshift [14:21] sort of, yes [14:21] ah [14:22] so are you attending tonights meet lad? [14:23] yep, will get on the truck to a strnger signal are. but surely will be attending oom [14:23] good === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [15:58] ... === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [16:57] Maaz: coffee on [16:57] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [16:58] Maaz: coffee for all [16:58] Come on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already [17:01] Coffee's ready for queery! [17:01] Maaz: ty [17:01] You are welcome queery [17:03] Hi there [17:05] :O need to prepare for the meeting [17:05] oh hi hubx [17:05] howdy queery, smilE, oom Kilos [17:06] hi nuvolari :p [17:07] wait... something is wrong with the previous meeting minutes [17:07] hi nuvolari [17:07] it's for august [17:07] I'm recently moved to ZA. Do you guys if there is a way for delta updates. The time it takes to upgrade...its so slow :( [17:07] oom Kilos, are you around? [17:08] hubx: no idea, but are you using local mirrors? [17:08] Maaz: seen Kilos [17:08] queery: Kilos was last seen 2 hours, 45 minutes and 7 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2012-10-15 07:23:28 PDT], and has been online on freenode since 2012-10-15 07:07:52 PDT [17:08] hubx: we're having a meeting tonight, you're welcome to stay for the meeting [17:08] just eating quick [17:09] oh, and welcome to #ubuntu-za hubx :) [17:09] oom Kilos, did the meeting go through last time? [17:09] nuvolari, oh cool I will. [17:10] yes I think so, I changed all entries in /etc/apt/source.list to za.archive.ubuntu.com/* [17:10] *sources.list [17:13] alright, nothing new on the delta upgrade side. Still a blueprint. I think I read first about it in 2006. :( [17:13] hubx: debian packages do not officially support deltas [17:15] yeah well, apple does :D [17:15] sheesh :-/ loco.ubuntu.com's meetings are a mess for us [17:15] I can't find any recent meeting pages :P [17:15] nuvolari, http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/491/detail/ [17:16] why I'm a fan of cats: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-CnwsN75zSOc/UHwwKDkuHvI/AAAAAAAAK8I/D6t1TbczYyU/w442-h331/bvcfgtr4e.gif [17:16] :P [17:16] hubx: I'm after the past events [17:17] nuvolari, k sorry [17:17] evening all [17:21] good evening [17:22] hi guys sorry but food was lekker [17:22] hi magespawn, charlvn [17:23] no problem hubx :) [17:23] hey nuvolari Kilos [17:23] we need someone to host a deb-delta server then we will have delta upgrades [17:23] nuvolari: you going to chair? [17:23] hi hubx [17:23] hey magespawn [17:23] nuvolari: Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2012-09-17-17-36-44.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2012-09-17-17-36-44.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2012-09-17-17-36-44.html [17:23] hi nuvolari [17:24] hubx, why havent you visited before [17:24] thanks a million queery [17:24] no prob [17:25] magespawn: before I forget, are you available next weekend for the release party? [17:25] hi smilE [17:25] hehe [17:26] hi not_found [17:26] :p [17:26] no i won't be able to get down nuvolari [17:26] Kilos, visited where? Here in IRC? Just been here for 2 weeks. ;) [17:26] raspberry pi gets 512 megabyte ram :) isn't that cool :p [17:26] hi uncle Kilos ... about to go SS&S... working tomorow so sorry about the meeting [17:26] here by us hubx [17:26] meh :-/ ok [17:26] next time magespawn [17:26] howdy not_found [17:26] hi nuvolari [17:26] ok, go rest well :) [17:26]