[00:01] <TJ-> dan_r0ck: If I remember correctly, when you have multiple GPUs they each have to drive a separate X session.
[00:01] <ChrisWere> So I've had this problem for a while. Ive been on here before but no-one's managed to help me. I used to be able to get 1280x960 resolution on my Nvidia card and now I can't anyone know why? Also, this problem doesn't happen on windows I can still get high resolutions
[00:04] <TJ-> ChrisWere: After you left the other day I checked the Windows side. The problem - as we found out - was that the monitor isn't sending an EDID to the GPU. On Windows, if no EDID is present it uses a set of pre-defined modelines anyhow. On Ubuntu and X by default now, the server is set to auto-detect the modes via the EDID. If that isn't present (or invalid) you have to do the same as Windows does. That is, you need to create an X config file ("/etc/x11/xorg.conf" with
[00:04] <TJ->  settings in it.
[00:04] <ahmedipa> Did any buddy know my problem ? regarding UBUNTU hung
[00:05] <ChrisWere> tj-: right okay
[00:05] <ChrisWere> tj-: how can i do this. I'm rubbish at editing x.conf. I've busted the file very time I've tried to edit it.
[00:05] <CrawfordComeaux> how can I reconfigure how grub is installed when trying to upgrade?
[00:06] <TJ-> ChrisWere: You can get the "Nvidia X Settings" to write a default configuration to that file for you, then you can add the specifics of your actual monitor ( the important values are HorizSync and VertSync in a "Monitor" section)
[00:06] <TJ-> ChrisWere: Give me a couple of minutes, I'm working on an MIT assignment with someone. I'll find you the instructions
[00:06] <ChrisWere> TJ-: thanks. I'll generate the default x.conf file now
[00:07] <ahmedipa> ??
[00:08] <cindy> #ubuntu-indonesia
[00:08] <TJ-> ChrisWere: If you an remind me of the exact make and model of the monitor, since we need that to search the 'net for its minimum/maximum frequencies
[00:08] <TheLordOfTime> cindy: do you have a support question?
[00:08] <Galaxor> Hi.  I've got a machine that will boot up to ubuntu when I boot it from my (usb) install CD (12.04 desktop x84_64).  But after installing, when I boot off the hard drive, I get a black screen with the text cursor on it and nothing more ever.  I don't even get a grub screen.  What do I do?
[00:09] <ChrisWere> tj-: Make :iiyama Model: LS704u
[00:09] <TJ-> ChrisWere: Thanks. I'll do some digging
[00:10] <tbren> Can someone tell me how to uninstall something i installed from source btw make uninstall and make remove does not work
[00:10] <bennypr0fane> hello, anyone feel like taking a look at my issue in the forums? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12295855#post12295855
[00:11] <bennypr0fane> I already chowned it
[00:11] <blackshirt> tbren, usually uninstall script would take that ?
[00:11] <blackshirt> tbren, usually uninstall script would take that
[00:12] <blackshirt> If makefiles doesn't contain uninstall rules, you can do it manually with reversely step
[00:13] <blackshirt> bennypr0fane, can you describe it here ?
[00:13] <bennypr0fane> sure; I can paste here what I wrote in the forums
[00:14] <blackshirt> just for a little descriptions
[00:14] <tbren> Reversly step?
[00:14] <bennypr0fane> I have a data partition mounted in fstab but it seems I cannot write downloads to it. Dropbox is on that partition and it does sync. here's my fstab: http://pastebin.com/vhPCmSsi and blkid: http://pastebin.com/uF5t7Yey ...the reason I suspect there is a problem in fstab is that I get a permission denied error for the downloads. Also, I can't copy local files to that partition. But then how is Dropbox granted permission?
[00:14] <bennypr0fane> blackshirt your gonna ask me for details later anyway...
[00:15] <TJ-> ChrisWere: According to others with the same monitor you'll need these settings in the "Monitor" section of "/etc/X11/xorg.conf". Make sure the Identifier is the one used in the Screen section of your config file. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1280284/
[00:15] <blackshirt> tbren, makefiles contain install rules, usually with copying files to the filesystem ... And you should know what have been copied
[00:15] <benbro> is there a problem with storing a large number of files in a single folder?
[00:16] <tbren> Thanks
[00:16] <benbro> 1K files, 10K files...
[00:16] <TheLordOfTime> !crosspost | benbro
[00:16] <TheLordOfTime> benbro, just be patient.
[00:17] <ChrisWere> tj-: okay, made the changes, should I restart X and hope for the best?
[00:18] <TJ-> ChrisWere: Yes. And after you have, pastebin the resulting "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" so we can see what effect the config file had
[00:18] <blackshirt> bennypr0fane, wait a minute
[00:18] <CrawfordComeaux> if grub gets screwed up during upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04, could I repair it using the 10.04 DVD?
[00:19] <steven-> why should it screw up in the first place?
[00:19] <steven-> and yes, you should be able to repair it
[00:20] <CrawfordComeaux> steven-: because the server's a VM w/some kind of goofy disk setup
[00:20] <steven-> oh i see
[00:20] <steven-> worst case is u have to chroot and repair it
[00:20] <ChrisWere> tj-: okay what was it you wanted me to pastebin again?
[00:21] <TJ-> ChrisWere:  "/var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[00:22] <ChrisWere> tj-: okay nothing seems to have happened http://paste.ubuntu.com/1280289/
[00:23] <TJ-> ChrisWere: OK, looking
[00:24] <CrawfordComeaux> is it possible to boot from CD via grub rescue?
[00:24] <TJ-> Chris-D: The log-file shows that it didn't pick up a monitor section. Can you pastebin the xorg.conf for me?
[00:24] <TheLordOfTime> CrawfordComeaux, you'd boot from CD at pre-OS, if you're at a grub rescue prompt, you're already at the OS
[00:24] <TheLordOfTime> CrawfordComeaux, you'd have to check the BIOS on your system to see if it boots from CDs before it tries to boot from the hard drive
[00:25] <TJ-> oops, grrr, tab completion
[00:25] <TJ-> ChrisWere: The log-file shows that it didn't pick up a monitor section. Can you pastebin the xorg.conf for me?
[00:26] <CrawfordComeaux> TheLordOfTime: unique problem here - grub's borked on a VM I don't have physical access to & the java console that lets me access it doesn't load up in time to press f12 :P
[00:26] <ChrisWere> tj-: the xorg.conf as it currently stands http://paste.ubuntu.com/1280297/
[00:27] <TheLordOfTime> CrawfordComeaux, if your VM is that screwed, i'd say recreate the VM.  but if you can't do that, well...
[00:27] <TheLordOfTime> personally, i know of no method to do that from grub rescue.  but i'm not a grub pro.
[00:29] <CrawfordComeaux> let's see...maybe I can use another VNC client to connect
[00:30] <TJ-> ChrisWere: Ahhh! my example Monitor section for you uses a different Identifier. Edit the Monitor section is it reads "Identifier   "Monitor0"   and try again
 Chris-D: The log-file shows that it didn't pick up a monitor section. Can you pastebin the xorg.conf for me? <-- hehe - wrong chris
[00:30] <TJ-> Chris-D: yeah, tab-completion keeps getting you and I didn't notice
[00:31] <ChrisWere> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1280305/ my new xorg.conf - i'll just tried it out now
[00:33] <ChrisWere> tj-: it worked!
[00:34] <TJ-> ChrisWere: At flippin' last, YAY! put the flags out
[00:34] <ChrisWere> tj-: so can i ask you about it, so that I understand?
[00:34] <TJ-> Sure
[00:34] <dan_r0ck> OerHeks, I can set DISCRETE or IGP in the BIOS config. IGP forces the onboard to load... DISCRETE forces nvidia to load
[00:35] <ChrisWere> tj-: if I use nvidia-config to re-write my xorg.conf, will it undo these changes?
[00:35] <joan> hola
[00:35] <TJ-> ChrisWere: As far as I recall, no, it will only change settings you modify, as long as you use the GUI Nvidia X Settings program. I'm not sure about the command-line tool, never checked that!
[00:36] <stephanator> Anyone out there managed to get systemtap working with 12.04-1 yet?
[00:36] <ChrisWere> tj-: I assume I should back up the xorg.conf I have now just in case. But one thing I don't understand is what actually caused the error in the first place? Was it monitor memory getting corrupted or something?
 Chris-D: yeah, tab-completion keeps getting you and I didn't notice <-- it's all good - happens to me all the time too :)
[00:37] <TJ-> ChrisWere: Yes! I'd do that!!
[00:38] <TJ-> ChrisWere: I don't either, but yes, it seems the Electrically Erasable Programmable Read Only Memory (EEPROM) in the monitor that stores the EDID got zapped in some way. This is not as unusual as it sounds! There are even specialised tools that can reprogram it down the VGA cable. When it happens, you have to provide the information to the X server manually via xorg.conf
[00:40] <ChrisWere> TJ-: Programming down the VGA cable? I never knew one could do that
[00:40] <sacrebleu> hey folks, Orcbuntu available http://orcs.biz
[00:40] <altin> has anyone ever figured out a way to watch netflix in ubuntu ?
[00:40] <KM0201> sacrebleu: stop being stupid
[00:41] <altin> I know they don't support linux but just saying !?
[00:41] <sacrebleu> altin: Wine?
[00:41] <altin> sacrebleu: wine and what ?
[00:41] <altin> because I tried whine and firefox
[00:41] <sacrebleu> Wine and browser?
[00:41] <sacrebleu> Chrome?
[00:41] <KM0201> altin: other than windows in virtualbox... no
[00:41] <altin> but it just wont start
[00:41] <sacrebleu> oh yeah VirtualBox
[00:41] <altin> VirtualBox with windows ?
[00:42] <sacrebleu> Yeah you could do that
[00:42] <KM0201> altin: install virtualbox, install windows inside virtualbox.
[00:42] <sacrebleu> probably VirtualBox and MacOS too
[00:42] <TJ-> Chris-D: Apparently for some devices it is possible with a special bit of hardware
[00:42] <altin> hmmm I was thinking of that but I am kind of sceptic if I should torrent a windows copy
[00:42] <Chris-D> lol
[00:42] <TJ-> ChrisWere: !!! Apparently for some devices it is possible with a special bit of hardware
[00:42] <sacrebleu> altin: MacOS, $50
[00:42] <altin> I aint paying for software !!
[00:43] <sacrebleu> wait its only $19.99
[00:43] <altin> I would torrent it but I am afraid to do that here in US
[00:43] <altin> :p
[00:43] <sacrebleu> http://www.apple.com/osx/
[00:43] <Malimbar> it's also not officially compatible with anything but mac hardware
[00:43] <ChrisWere> TJ-: I see, right now the next step for me is to try and get this to work with my dual moniters
[00:43] <sacrebleu> even in a VirtualBox?
[00:43] <Malimbar> some verification somethign or other they put into macs
[00:43] <Malimbar> pretty sure, but let me check
[00:44] <sacrebleu> http://www.sysprobs.com/guide-mac-os-x-10-7-lion-on-virtualbox-with-windows-7-and-intel-pc
[00:44] <TJ-> ChrisWere: Hopefully the 2nd monitor will provide an EDID and then the Nvidia X Settings application will sort it out for you
[00:44] <zatan> hey what does it mean ? can't run as root without the -u switch
[00:45] <jrib> zatan: give context
[00:45] <Malimbar> "we need to modify some packages and create a new disk which can be booted in virtualbox"
[00:45] <altin> hmm chrome fails to connect to internet if you try installing it with wine sacrebleu
[00:45] <zatan> jrib,  sudo memcached -I 2m         error "can't run as root without the -u switch"
[00:45] <sacrebleu> altin: just go rip a copy of XP
[00:46] <altin> yeah, it seems the best option...
[00:46] <altin> thnx :)
[00:46] <jrib> zatan: well... are you sure you want to run memcached as root?
[00:47] <zatan> jrib, no I am not sure but otherwise its not letting increase cache size
[00:47] <jrib> zatan: because the first hit for "memcached as root" is a security article saying you should not do that (http://blog.couchbase.com/memcached-security)
[00:48] <zatan> jrib, cheers for this article
[00:48] <jrib> zatan: how do you normally start memcached?
[00:50] <zatan> jrib, sudo memcached -d -u www-data -p 11211 -m 64
[00:50] <jrib> zatan: and you can't pass your -I setting there?
[00:51] <zatan> jrib, ok its time to go sleeep, its working fine now :)))))))
[00:51] <jrib> zatan: cool
[00:51] <zatan> jrib,  cheers ;)
[00:54] <superlou> Any reason why I would boot up my PC today, and suddenly nvidia drivers aren't running, and won't install via proprietary drivers install?I was previously using post-release updates version, but now when I try to install, it says to view jockey.log.
[00:55] <ramrebol_> hi. wxmaxima is not working, and my ubuntu is slow. How can I fix this?
[00:55] <ChrisWere> tj-: goodnews! dual monitors worsk!
[00:56] <superlou> ChrisWere, did you lose drivers too?
[00:57] <ChrisWere> superlou: what do you mean by lose drivers?
[00:57] <TJ-> ChrisWere: That's great news
[00:57] <ChrisWere> tj-: I feel like I really owe you
[00:58] <TJ-> ChrisWere: It's always obvious once you've suffered something yourself!
[00:58] <superlou> ChrisWere, I've been using the nvidia drivers installed by the additional drivers application for a few months now.  I just booted up today to find that the driver is no longer installed, and when I try to install it, it cannot (says to look at jockey.log)
[00:58] <superlou> Seems kind of strange, and wondering if it lines up with the kernel update recently?
[00:59] <ChrisWere> superlou: I happen to know that they've changed the repos recently because they're releasing stream for linux
[00:59] <TJ-> superlou: If the kernel was updated, it is possible - from your description - that the nvidia-current-updates DKMS kernel build hook didn't work and the nvidia module for the new kernel didn't get built
[01:00] <superlou> actually, i was having trouble with DKMS last week
[01:00] <superlou> trying to install virtualbox
[01:00] <superlou> i wonder if i torched something, which led to then not being able to build
[01:00] <superlou> TJ-, would you know a way to test that?
[01:00] <TJ-> DKMS is just a script that automates the kernel module build for non-free non-included kernel modules (drivers)
[01:01] <TJ-> superlou: Let's find out what kernel version you're on, and if there is an nvidia module installed for it. "uname -a"   then "ls -l /lib/modules/`uname -r`/updates/dkms/"
[01:02] <superlou> 3.2.0-32-generic #51-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 26 21:33:09 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[01:02] <superlou> ls: cannot access /lib/modules/3.2.0-32-generic/updates/dkms/: No such file or directory
[01:02] <EMPHASIS> Hi, how do I set thunderbird to use an external drive to store my mailbox files, anyone please?
[01:02] <TJ-> superlou: Let me check I've not mis-remembered the path!
[01:03] <alone> oi
[01:03] <TJ-> superlou: It was correct. So there is a problem on your system. Try this: "ls -l /lib/modules/`uname -r`/updates/"
[01:03] <superlou> TJ-, yeah, it's the update folder that's not there
[01:03] <TJ-> superlou: OK, so there's no nvidia module obviously!
[01:04] <superlou> well, that's a downer
[01:04] <TJ-> superlou: how about this: "ls -l /usr/src/"
[01:05] <superlou> TJ-, https://gist.github.com/3890342
[01:06] <CrawfordComeaux> grub got borked during an upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 and I've booted from the ubuntu livecd into a repair shell. what do I do now?
[01:06] <TJ-> superlou: OK, so the source code is there "nvidia-current-updates-295.49" ... so let's try doing a dkms build manually
[01:07] <bodom> Hi there, i have very a very slow system with a very high "wa" cpu usage, can anybody help me troubleshoot this issue?
[01:07] <TJ-> superlou: "ls -l /var/lib/dkms/"  - do you see an "nvidia-current-updates" directory?
[01:08] <superlou> TJ-, yes
[01:08] <TJ-> superlou: does it end "-295.49" ?
[01:09] <TJ-> superlou: scratch that! wrong question!
[01:09] <superlou> TJ-, standing by (thanks in advance) :)
[01:09] <TJ-> superlou: "ls -l /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-current-updates/"  - do you see a "295.49" directory?
[01:09] <superlou> TJ-, yes
[01:10] <superlou> also, the kernel
[01:10] <TJ-> superlou: OK, lets try a build then. "sudo dkms -m nvidia-current-updates -v 295.49 -k 3.2.0-32-generic"
[01:11] <superlou> TJ-, no output, but it went _very_ quickly.  Is that normal?
[01:12] <TJ-> Hmmm, you should see some messages
[01:12] <superlou> TJ-, no output at all
[01:12] <TJ-> superlou: LOL oh no you shouldn't! I'm tired and missing out typing key bits!!!
[01:12] <TJ-> superlou: Helps to tell DKMS to "build" !! "sudo dkms build -m nvidia-current-updates -v 295.49 -k 3.2.0-32-generic"
[01:13] <superlou> TJ-, now it's chugging along.  (Just finished 48-hour rails rumble myself.  not at the top of my game)
[01:13] <TJ-> superlou: If that completes, you tell it to "install" next... with all the same arguments
[01:13] <TJ-> superlou: So: "sudo dkms install -m nvidia-current-updates -v 295.49 -k 3.2.0-32-generic"
[01:14] <superlou> TJ-, build went, installing...
[01:14] <superlou> TJ-, reports installation completed, though no original module exists within this kernel
[01:14] <TJ-> superlou:  "ls -l /lib/modules/`uname -r`/updates/dkms/" should have something this time
[01:14] <superlou> TJ-, still no file or directory
[01:15] <TJ-> superlou: Huh!? Did "install" report where it was putting the new file, or any errors or warnings?
[01:15] <superlou> TJ-, it says it insatlled to /lib/modules/3.2.0-32-generic/kernel/drivers/char/drm/
[01:16] <TJ-> superlou: woah! Something not right there. Did you install the Nvidia driver from the Ubuntu archives or from a stand-alone Nvidia installer?
[01:16] <superlou> from the additional drivers app, so i thought ubuntu archives
[01:17] <TJ-> superlou: Just check the module for now "modinfo nvidia-current-updates" or "modinfo nvidia-current" or "modinfo nvidia"
[01:18] <superlou> TJ-, modinfo nvidia-current-updates reports stuff, the other two do not
[01:18] <superlou> do you want the details?
[01:19] <TJ-> superlou: Something weird I think - the Ubuntu packages (nvidia-current-updates, etc.) should install DKMS modules to the ./updates/dkms/ directory. It seems something (maybe that VirtualBox thing) has changed the default install location configured for DKMS. You best check in /etc/dkms/framework.conf and other DKMS files in /etc/dkms/
[01:19] <TJ-> superlou: If you got info on the module, yes please, pastebin it
[01:20] <WeThePeople> looking for a way to hide/encrypt a fs/partition?
[01:20] <superlou> TJ-, modinfo at http://pastebin.com/Y2MDacu3
[01:21] <bargash> hello
[01:21] <bargash> help me please!
[01:22] <TJ-> superlou: That looks good to go. You ought to be able to stop the X server, load the module, and restart the X server (from a console). Log-out from the GUI, switch to a console, do "sudo service lightdm stop" then "sudo modprobe nvidia-current-updates" (if that doesn't work try also "nvidia-current" and "nvida" since the aliases get a bit silly) then restart X "sudo service lightdm start" and log-in
[01:24] <superlou> TJ-, here goes.  see you on the other side
[01:26] <superlou> TJ-, so, didn't need to do any console commands.  I logged out, and the second monitor showed up.  Nvidia settings now works.
[01:26] <superlou> I'm going to full reboot and make sure i'm not crazy.
[01:27] <bargash> please help, when i try to login  the monitor switch off then switch back to on and to login another time with the same problem, but if i login to safemode it works fine,what can i do thanx..!
[01:27] <ircUbuntu1> Hello, I have got a problem. I use ubuntu 10.04 (lucid) and I have overwritten a file on an usb-stick (Fat 32). I would like to recover that file again. Is this possible, e.g. with dd or anything like that?
[01:30] <superlou> TJ-, you're the man.  I think there's an underlying problem somewhere, but will fight it when I've slept more.  Thanks!
[01:32] <TJ-> superlou: Great to hear :)
[01:32] <newbie|3> Hi
[01:40] <WeThePeople> in disk utility what does " encrypt underlying device " mean?
[01:41] <Liquidedge> My 2 year old totally blew up my taskbar.  Is there a way to reset it to defaults?
[01:42] <Liquidedge> Xubuntu
[01:42] <sophos> What do you mean by 'blew up' ?
[01:47] <_Tristan> I may or may not have SATA 3 available on my motherboard. Is there a software-ish way to find that out?
[01:48] <WeThePeople> liquidedge, i assume you mean ether.. btw just right click and properties :)
[01:49] <TJ-> _Tristan: "grep 'SATA link' /var/log/kern.log"
[01:50] <TJ-> _Tristan: Bear in mind there may be settings in the BIOS that can affect the SATA ports available, and their link speed
[01:50] <_Tristan> thank you
[01:53] <Fekkuo> Greetings everyone.
[01:54] <Liquidedge> WeThePeople, sophos :  Here's the screenshot.  http://imgur.com/Mmgot
[01:55] <Fekkuo> Guys, I have a little problem here; and I can't appreciate enough for help.
[01:56] <Ambushed> Hello, can someone help installing driver on 12.04LTS for  Nvidia nvs 5100M on elitebook 8540p
[01:56] <Ambushed> Good work dev's btw, Ubuntu has had huge improvements!
[01:56] <Ambushed> World wide nigga, from New Zealand haha
[01:57] <Fekkuo> It happens that, in Ubuntu 11.10, I was messing with User and Group settings and I changed my only account from Administrator to Standard, and now it doesn't recognize my passwords. How can I get my priviledges back?
[01:57] <WeThePeople> ambushed, please watch your lang in here thx
[01:58] <Ambushed> Hello, can someone help installing driver on 12.04LTS for  Nvidia nvs 5100M
[01:58] <WeThePeople> liquidedge, yeah its right click and select preferences or properties
[01:58] <WeThePeople> its properties
[01:59] <Ambushed> Sorry for the analogy
[01:59] <Liquidedge> Yeah, and then what, though?
[01:59] <Ambushed> Whats a good CLI for telnet and SSH sessions
[02:00] <Fekkuo> Is anyone wise enough to help me with this miserable luck of mine?
[02:00] <Liquidedge> WeThePeople, did you see the screenshot?
[02:00] <Liquidedge> Fekkuo, Don't know until you try.
[02:00] <WeThePeople> liquidedge, click properties and you see size and change it appropriately
[02:01] <Fekkuo> It happens that, in Ubuntu 11.10, I was messing with User and Group settings and I changed my only account from Administrator to Standard, and now it doesn't recognize my passwords. How can I get my priviledges back?
[02:01] <WeThePeople> fekkuo, just ask
[02:01] <Ambushed> Hello, can someone help installing driver on 12.04LTS for  Nvidia nvs 5100M on elitebook 8540
[02:01] <Flannel> Fekkuo: What "doesn't recognize [your] password"?
[02:01] <zoogoo> Shit bitchez!!
[02:01] <Fekkuo> Flannel, the OS doesn't
[02:02] <Flannel> Fekkuo: so, you can't login?
[02:02] <Fekkuo> Flannel, the login is automatic
[02:02] <Flannel> Fekkuo: Alright, so what isn't working is when you try to do administrative things?
[02:02] <Fekkuo> Flannel, anything else that would ask for password won't work for me now.
[02:02] <Ambushed> Hello, can someone help installing driver on 12.04LTS for  Nvidia nvs 5100M on elitebook 8540
[02:03] <Fekkuo> Yes!
[02:03] <Flannel> Fekkuo: That's nothing to do with your password then, just the fact that you're no longer an admin.
[02:03] <Ambushed> Hello, can someone help installing driver on 12.04LTS for  Nvidia nvs 5100M on elitebook 8540
[02:03] <Flannel> Fekkuo: Do you have any other accounts that have admin access on this machine?
[02:03] <Fekkuo> Flannel, I have nothing else.
[02:04] <Ambushed> Hello, can someone help installing driver on 12.04LTS for  Nvidia nvs 5100M on elitebook 8540
[02:04] <Flannel> Fekkuo: alright, you'll need to reboot into the recovery console, and then from that (which is a root prompt), youll want to type: `adduser [your-username-without-these-braces] admin`
[02:04] <Flannel> Fekkuo: and that'll do you.
[02:05] <lifvdjkifd> how to configure say command
[02:07] <Fekkuo> Flannel, I wrote it down. Going to try right now. Thank you so much, I wish you happiness. Really. See you around!
[02:11] <pudish> my laptop running ubuntu 12.04 occasionally loses it's touchpad functionality, seemingly after long periods without use (after or during watching a movie for example).  rebooting fixes it, but is there a better, permanent fix?
[02:13] <WeThePeople> how do i hide folders from the show hidden files button ?
[02:16] <drupod> WeThePeople, you can use ctrl + h to show and hide hidden folders
[02:16] <wade1> Hey guys, I installed ubuntu server 12.04 and when it boots past the grub menu the screen isn't displaying right. It looks like all it has is letters/symbols but I can't even make them out. Anyone got any ideas?
[02:17] <edve_> What is the best programming language i coule learn ? On linux ubuntu though lol
[02:18] <edve_> Could *
[02:19] <pudish> edve_:  may i suggest python
[02:20] <smw> edve_, depends on what you plan to program
[02:20] <smw> edve_, and there is no such things as the best programming language
[02:21] <edve_> Sorry i was meaning for the best language conpatibility for any Linux OS
[02:21] <WeThePeople> linux is written in C
[02:22] <SixtyFold> what is the currect LTS of ubuntu?
[02:22] <SixtyFold> nevermind
[02:22] <SixtyFold> i didnt read the topic as fast as i typed
[02:22] <SixtyFold> hahaha
[02:22] <tyler_d> here's about as far ot as it gets, I'm trying to reset a belkin100 wireless AP without a poe injector.
[02:22] <SixtyFold> any suggestion of what is more stable, 11.10 or 12.04?
[02:23] <overclucker> edve_: much of the operating system is written in c/c++, perl and python.
[02:23] <boots728> Hello all.  I am running into some permissions issues and was wondering if anyone could kindly help me out
[02:24] <SixtyFold> is lubuntu officially supported by ubuntu as well btw?
[02:24] <overclucker> edve: but linux isn't limited to a strict set of programming languages, anything goes really.
[02:24] <|Anthony|> what'd ya think, < /dev/urandom tr -dc [:graph:] | head -c${1:-16};echo; a good way to pick a password?
[02:24] <Guest16603> I am having trouble getting the 3d cubes setting of compiz to work
[02:25] <overclucker> |Anthony|: mkpasswd not good enough?
[02:25] <MikeSki333> I am having trouble getting the 3d cubes setting of compiz to work
[02:25] <MikeSki333> Can anyone help?
[02:28] <|Anthony|> i suppose it could be lol
[02:29] <WeThePeople> |anthony|, what does it do?
[02:29] <overclucker> |Anthony|: not that your bashfu isn't excellent
[02:29] <pudish> my laptop running ubuntu 12.04 occasionally loses it's touchpad functionality, seemingly after long periods without use (after or during watching a movie for example).  rebooting fixes it, but is there a better, permanent fix?
[02:30] <DaemonicApathy> How old is the laptop?
[02:31] <bonez2046> What's the best way to open an app, Nautilus for example, so that i have root permissions? Let's say I want to clean up some files but I need root permission for some of them...I open xterm, sudo -i to root and then launch 'nautilus -&'  ... is ther a better way?
[02:31] <pudish> it's fairly new i'd say, it's an MSI gt780dx
[02:31] <|Anthony|> WeThePeople, it generates some random data, sends it to tr which filters out characters on the keyboard (except SPACE) and finally clips it down to 16 characters
[02:32] <DaemonicApathy> bonez2046: just "gksudo nautilus -&"?
[02:32] <bonez2046> DaemonicApathy: so, that's about the same approach...
[02:32] <WeThePeople> |anthony|, so it uses keys not on the keyboard
[02:32] <DaemonicApathy> pudish: Tough for me to say - I wouldn't be sure if that's because of drivers or the actual hardware.
[02:32] <|Anthony|> overclucker, mkpasswd seems to be light on punctuation
[02:33] <DaemonicApathy> bonez2046: About the same, yeah. You could also make a shortcut, if it's something you do regularly.
[02:33] <|Anthony|> WeThePeople, no it uses characters that are found on the keyboard
[02:33] <|Anthony|> put it in terminal and see what it outputs
[02:34] <pudish> DaemonicApathy, i can tell you that i was using windows 7 as recently as 2 days ago, and i've never had an issue.  so i'd have to assume it's a driver issue.  btw, i only just made the switch from windows to linux.  you're dealing with a total newb here >.<
[02:35] <boots728> can anyone help me with permission issues
[02:35] <KM0201> depends on the problem boots728
[02:35] <MTecknology> Where can I find an apt repo for ubuntu that supports IPv6? I don't have any IPv4 addresses available anymore..
[02:36] <WeThePeople> boots728,just ask
[02:38] <boots728> So I have two users, call them ken an larry
[02:38] <blackshirt> boots728: what's your problem ?
[02:38] <boots728> larry is in ken's group and the permissions are set so that ken's group has wrS access (drwxrwSr-x 2 ken ken 4096 2012-10-14 17:20 ken)
[02:39] <boots728> when I switch users to larry and switch his primary group to ken he still can't write to ken's folder
[02:39] <boots728> From what I understand it should work but it isn't
[02:41] <DaemonicApathy> Doesn't that seem to say that ken has the permissions, rather than the group he's in?
[02:41] <blackshirt> DaemonicApathy: sorry
[02:41] <boots728> So it is ken's home directory
[02:41] <boots728> and I added larry to ken's group
[02:41] <boots728> so with the permissions above larry should be able to create files in ken's directory
[02:42] <overclucker> |Anthony|: there's also pwgen, which can be made to behave more like you wrote
[02:42] <DaemonicApathy> For what, blackshirt?
[02:42] <blackshirt> boots728: maybe better you using ACL for them
[02:42] <|Anthony|> mmm
[02:42] <blackshirt> DaemonicApathy: sorry, wrong mentions.. :D
[02:42] <MTecknology> So... it seems there's no IPv6 repos that canonical provides... not even security.ubuntu.com ... wtf
[02:43] <boots728> I want to try and stick with the default access control in Ubuntu
[02:43] <blackshirt> boots728: can you be more detail ?
[02:43] <boots728> what details did you want
[02:44] <boots728> I am sure that I provided all the info I could
[02:44] <boots728> ken has a home directory and I want larry who is in ken's group to have access
[02:44] <fread2281> MTecknology: IPv6 should be supported by default...
[02:44] <boots728> the permissions on ken's dir are drwxrwSr-x 2 ken ken 4096 2012-10-14 17:20 ken
[02:44] <blackshirt> boots728: i'm sitting here just for a seconds
[02:45] <boots728> so larry, who is in ken's group, should have permissions to create files in ken's directory but I am getting a permissions denied
[02:45] <boots728> I have logged out and back in
[02:45] <boots728> and have changed larry's primary group
[02:46] <boots728> sorry thought you were here earlier
[02:46] <tyler_d> what about moe?
[02:46] <boots728> ?
[02:47] <MTecknology> fread2281: it's supported, but the ubuntu repos don't support IPv6 and I don't have any IPv4 addresses available to connect
[02:47] <blackshirt> boots728: have you add larry to ken's group ?
[02:48] <boots728> yes
[02:48] <boots728> results of the command cat /etc/group |grep larry include ken:x:1004:larry,bwk,dmr
[02:56] <sacrebleu> how do I setup subdomains for a server?  ie how do I add irc.myservername.com
[02:58] <blackshirt> boots728:
[03:04] <boots728> is there some other info I can give you?
[03:04] <Guest43789> orale que pasa compas
[03:05] <Guest43789> hey
[03:05] <Guest43789> como me cambio el nombre
[03:05] <simplew> i have d folder  thats owned by root and adm group, i have added myself to adm group, but when i try as user in nautilus to move a file says i dont have permissions, any help?
[03:05] <Guest43789> you need to ask your parents for permission kid, cant' you read
[03:07] <evil> hey
[03:07] <evil> how may i help you sir
[03:08] <zruty> Where can I find previous versions of ubuntu? i.e. 10.04 desktop CD?
[03:09] <evil> in my cd stack
[03:10] <overclucker> simplew: does the command 'groups' have adm in it?
[03:12] <simplew> overclucker: yes
[03:12] <simplew> overclucker: its solved
[03:14] <JustMozzy> hey guys, I am trying to compile the ufasoft bitcoin miner on my ubuntu hardy 64 bit. during compilation it tells me that I need to install libpcre3-dev although it is already installed., I have also tried to reinstall it but with no luck. can anyone help?
[03:15] <simplew> overclucker: when you exit your session and you come back do you see the apps you left open in last session also opened?
[03:15] <evil> no hablo inges
[03:15] <DC> +i
[03:15] <simplew> overclucker: and your terminal window uses to keep the last size used?
[03:16] <DC> bye
[03:16] <overclucker> simplew: dont think so.
[03:16] <gartral> Can anyone suggest a screencasting application that A) can record multiple audio sources and B) uses something other than Theora?
[03:16] <simplew> another buggy sittuation, in kde we can have all that
[03:17] <DC> exit
[03:17] <overclucker> simplew: yup, i use kde on one of my boxes.
[03:19] <gartral> i miss you too baby
[03:19] <gartral> oops >.>
[03:20] <overclucker> haha
[03:25] <bjrohan> What is the best way to set up a desktop system connect to the intenet via DSL in order to access it's files via the internet? I am new to linux but it looks like there are many different ways such as NFS, Samba etc. Primarily I would like to access the computer via my android phone
[03:27] <simplew> overclucker: any hint on why ubuntu used gnome by default when kde is much better in a overall view?
[03:28] <MaskilPDX> Hya all
[03:30] <quim3> Greetings
[03:31] <quim3> testing stuff, sweet BASH :]
[03:31] <evil> hi
[03:32] <quim3> Greetings evil
[03:32] <blackshirt> hi
[03:38] <CaptainKnots> Is there any way to download the deb files for apps I purchased in the Software Center? I've moved to a different distro, but I bought a fair amount of apps from USC
[03:39] <CaptainKnots> and if I can get the deb files, I should be able to use those to install on another distro
[03:39] <CaptainKnots> I know it would be easy enough to do on a debian based distro
[03:41] <overclucker> CaptainKnots: paid apps can be downloaded with apt-get -d install
[03:41] <CaptainKnots> overclucker: last time I checked, gentoo doesn't support apt-get
[03:41] <CaptainKnots> I just need to download the actual deb files
[03:42] <CaptainKnots> so I can extract them to install on gentoo
[03:46] <kelvinella> hi how do I watch m3u8?
[03:46] <evil> with your eyes
[03:47] <Onixs_> O--O
[03:47] <overclucker> CaptainKnots: downloading them on an ubuntu system might be the easiest method.
[03:48] <CaptainKnots> too bad I don't have one of those
[03:48] <CaptainKnots> oh well
[03:49] <overclucker> CaptainKnots: maybe a virtualbox install would work for you.
[03:50] <Tynach> Hello, I have a printer that only understands Postscript (not PDF), an HP Laserjet 1300. When printing documents from LibreOffice, it allows me to change the printer settings to Postscript, and things print fine. However, by default, it prints as a PDF - and this causes it to take several minutes to print even a simple one-page document.
[03:51] <Tynach> All other programs in Ubuntu default to PDF as well, and most do not let me change that in the options. So I'm wondering this: How can I change the default print format to Postscript instead of PDF?
[03:51] <Guest24304> Having problem updating 12.04. Downloading completes correctly then dpkg error occurs and stops everything. Any ideas welcome.
[03:52] <Tynach> Guest24304, what error occurs?
[03:53] <Jordan_U> Tynach: Have you checked all of the options in system-config-printer ?
[03:55] <Tynach> Jordan_U, I thought I had, so I went and double checked. There are indeed no options in system-config-printer for choosing Postscript/PDF.
[03:55] <Guest24304> Tynach, I'll recreate it and print the output in a second.
[03:55] <Tynach> Guest24304, alright. I can't gurantee I'll be able to figure out what's going on, but at the very least knowing what went wrong will help others help you :)
[03:55] <edve> Is ubuntu dying ?
[03:56] <Tynach> edve, no.
[03:57] <Guest24304> dpkg: error: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 0:
[03:57] <Guest24304>  newline in field name `../../../../../share/pyshared/apport/crashdb_impl/multipartpost_handler.py'
[03:57] <Guest24304> Error in function:
[03:57] <Guest24304> SystemError: E:Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[03:57] <Tynach> Yeah, I have no idea what that means Guest24304. Hope someone else can help.
[03:57] <DaemonicApathy> Guest24304, http://paste.ubuntu.com/ exists precisely for multiline messages like that.
[03:59] <Tynach> Does anyone know anything about changing a printer's default document type from PDF to Postscript?
[03:59] <phix> Hey has the samba4 package been fixed up yet?
[03:59] <phix> or is it still broken? and still using a broken version of samba4?
[04:00] <leotr> hi! is it possible to add something other than preinstalled packages to ubuntu livecd created with UCK (Ubuntu Customization Kit)?
[04:00] <phix> leotr: no idea, I have never tried that before
[04:00] <DaemonicApathy> Btw, Guest24304: try running "sudo dpkg --clear-avail", then rebuild the file using the command "sudo apt-get update"
[04:01] <leotr> phix: thank you
[04:01] <Guest24304> Thanks DaemonicApathy, I'll give that a try and get back.
[04:02] <mohdizhar> hi
[04:03] <phix> mohdizhar: oh hai there
[04:03] <mohdizhar> i have problem with NIC card running ubuntu 10.1
[04:04] <gartral> Can anyone suggest a screencasting application that A) can record multiple audio sources and B) uses something other than Theora?
[04:05] <Guest31636> has anyone used macchanger before? is eth1 always the default internet device?
[04:05] <Guest31636> I was Guest31636 but changed my name to this
[04:06] <Tynach> Guest31636, your nick is still Guest31636.
[04:06] <wols> Guest31636: it's not.and you can change MAC simply with ifconfig
[04:06] <Tynach> Type '/nick <new_nick>' to change nicknames, Guest31636.
[04:09] <mohdizhar> who can help me... my NIC card have error firmware... failed to grab the new firmware?
[04:10] <wols> mohdizhar: which network chip?
[04:12] <kroog> sup
[04:13] <kroog> does anyone kno how 3 play netflux
[04:14] <Tynach> Does anyone know anything about changing a printer's default document type from PDF to Postscript?
[04:14] <wols> kroog: not possible under Linux. a Windows virtual machine should work
[04:14] <agrester> Ok if Bekks is here I finally have the output of fdisk
[04:14] <Guest56347> i luv ubuntu no doubt abt it but theres sumthing abt ubuntu thats not quite on par with windows.
[04:14] <kroog> yeah the color scheme
[04:14] <kroog> it's all...off
[04:14] <Guest24304> DaemonicApathy: Thankyou, I see I have a lot to learn about dpkg. I was unaware that command existed.  I was also unaware of the paste.ubuntu.com.
[04:14] <Galaxor> My radeon 7750 with fglrx works for like a second after X starts up, and then there's a flash, and then the screen is frozen.  I can't get to the virtual consoles, but I can ssh into the box.
[04:14] <Galaxor> Any advice on that?
[04:15] <wols> Guest31636: tried the radeon driver?
[04:15] <agrester> Recap: trying to install a second Ubuntu on the following partition scheme [WindowsXP][Empty][Primary Ubuntu][swap]
[04:16] <wols> Guest31636: also you might need a newer fglrx https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#Manually_installing_Catalyst_12.6
[04:16] <agrester> Where there's [Empty] I want to install a second Ubuntu so that I can cleanly have both Unity (testing) and XFCE (production), any help or clues on how to do the second install using the Ubuntu install tool?
[04:16] <Guest56347> am i the only one who doesnt like the new ubuntu? it tries to be what its not. ubuntu should be jst abt the old classic gnome. if it were to become something else it should NOT BE LIKE APPLEOS
[04:17] <evil> try xubuntu
[04:17] <gartral> Guest56347: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[04:17] <wols> agrester: just install to the empty space and then install grub2 to the partition and not the MBR
[04:17] <agrester> wols, how do I do this using the Graphical tool the "other options"
[04:17] <Guest56347> i knw abt xubuntu/gnome-shell and all that what im saying is ubuntu is very much pushing unity as its flagship and i think thats a mistake
[04:17] <Guest56347> unity is not a very good design
[04:18] <wols> Guest31636: this is a support channel, not an advocacy channel. please respect that
[04:18] <wols> Guest56347: ^^
[04:18] <Tynach> Guest56347, classic Gnome is going away, for better or worse. If you want something else, try Xfce, Gnome Shell, KDE, LXDE, or any other number of different desktop environments.
[04:18] <agrester> Guest56347: Unity is great, it's just really new...Mac OS had over 10 years to develop it, so Unity just needs to mature, I remember when Mac OS X first came out it was ugly as anything...
[04:19] <Guest56347> ive used all that mentioned im jst not happy abt unity thats all
[04:19] <Guest56347> unity should not be the new ubuntu.
[04:19] <Guest56347> ubuntu needs a new design
[04:19] <wols> Guest56347: do you have a technical ubuntu problem?
[04:19] <Guest56347> nope
[04:19] <Tynach> Guest56347, keep in mind Unity was originally developed to minimize screen space usage on netbooks. That's why it merges the menus and title bar at the top.
[04:19] <wols> then please shut up
[04:20] <aeon-ltd> please go to ot then
[04:20] <Guest56347> oooookkkkkkk
[04:20] <agrester> wols: how do I do this?
[04:21] <Tynach> agrester, you install Ubuntu as normal, but when it comes to partitioning, you decide to use a custom partition system. You make sure to only create a new partition in the empty space, and that should be that.
[04:21] <Guest31636> I have a quick question. If I use the macadress of one computer (computer 1) on copy it onto anther  computer (computer 2) is there anyway for the network to distinguish computer 2 from computer 1 assuming that they are not running at the same time
[04:21] <wols> agrester: long time since I installed ubuntu, so I don't know the specifics. can't you create a partition?
[04:22] <agrester> wols: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall
[04:22] <jagginess> Guest31636, your network traffic will get corrupted for each computer.. that's why mac-addresses are unique
[04:23] <saquib> :)
[04:23] <wols> agrester: yes: "something else"
[04:23] <agrester> the "do something else" step takes to the graphical partition and installation manager, then you can manually select which partition to install to. I just want to get i right because last time I tried this I ended up bricking the machine...
[04:23] <wols> agrester: should give you a fdisk program for partitioning
[04:23] <Guest31636> jagginess: i am aware of that. But what would happen if I shutdown computer1 and started up computer 2
[04:24] <jagginess> Guest31636, it depends on arp cache and how strict the routing equipment is
[04:24] <Tynach> Does anyone know anything about changing a printer's default document type from PDF to Postscript?
[04:25] <jagginess> Guest31636, if the routing or switch equipment allows multiple mac-addresses on the port (which usually is a 'yes' for home equipment), then there's no problem.. but there really is nothing new about this.. this affects only the lan network, and wouldn't give you any "hack" advantage even if you were thinking over the internet
[04:26] <phix> Any command that will tell me the type of ram installed on a computer ?
[04:26] <phix> (a computer running ubuntu that is)
[04:27] <Guest31636> jagginess: what I want to do is download a torrent, a legal one (some wallpaper) , but those are still banned. So my question is could I use a Kios computer's mac address and hide my mac address so that they don't know it is me who is downloading the torrent.
[04:27] <phix> or the brand and model number of it? without having to take the side off?
[04:27] <jagginess> Guest31636, I answered your dumb question already
[04:27] <Tynach> Guest31636, why not download the wallpaper at home, or find a non-torrent for the wallpaper?
[04:27] <Guest31636> jagginess:  well the main difference is that my current mac address is tied to my name
[04:28] <phix> Guest31636: so who doesn't know?
[04:28] <jagginess> Guest31636, I already answered your dumb question. Read it properly again.
[04:28] <phix> Guest31636: just download it off your phone using your mobile connection
[04:29] <Guest31636> Tynach: I am at college right now
[04:29] <alien2050> phix: try "dmesg" it might get some of that info for you
[04:29] <Guest31636> phix: I don't own a smartphone
[04:29] <jagginess> Guest31636, american?
[04:29] <Tynach> Guest31636, I have never heard of wallpapers being available only as a torrent.
[04:29]  * jagginess *figures*
[04:29] <phix> Guest31636: Buy an android <3 then install Ubuntu on it, then you will be within topic again :)
[04:30] <phix> alien2050: hmmmmm, ok, so you dont know of any commands that can tell me this or fish it out of /proc or /sys ?
[04:30] <alien2050> phix: there's also "dmidecode" but not sure if will work on Ubuntu
[04:31] <Guest31636> Tynach: I have this torrent for social wallpaper
[04:31] <alien2050> yeah dmidecode should work fine I just tried it
[04:31] <Guest31636> Tynach: they used to use torrents to download large amounts of their wallpaper connection, like over 250.
[04:32] <alien2050> phix: there's a manufacturer and part model (if it can decode it properly)
[04:33] <Tynach> Guest31636, why not simply change your Mac address to whatever, download the torrent, then change it back? Does it have to mimic another computer on the network?
[04:33] <alien2050> phix: it will at least tell you the precise quantity info, otherwise you can always fish the motherboard model and look at the specs on their websites.... all depends what you re trying to do
[04:33] <Guest31636> Tynach: because the university requires that all computers have an authorized mac address and to get a new mac address authorized you must put in your username and password
[04:34] <Tynach> Guest31636, alright, fair enough. So how about just downloading the torrent? If anyone asks, you can just show them it's wallpapers. If they search your computer, they will only find the wallpapers. It might be a hassle, but so what? Certainly easier than going through all this trouble.
[04:35] <Guest31636> Tynach: because I don't want to deal with having my connection shut off when they investigate
[04:35] <Tynach> And do you know for sure they would investigate?
[04:36] <phix> alien2050: thnx, that worked like a charm
[04:36] <Guest31636> Tynach: I doubt they will, but I just don't want to deal with that problem
[04:37] <alien2050> phix: no problemo
[04:37] <solitude88> Hey guys is this a desktop or server channel... or both?
[04:37] <phix> wooo! GA-M55PLUS-S3G!
[04:37] <phix> <3 that program
[04:37] <Tynach> solitude88, I believe it's both.
[04:37] <alien2050> hehehe
[04:38] <solitude88> cool thanks Tynach!
[04:38] <Tynach> Since you can have server software on your desktop, and desktop software on your server.
[04:38] <Tynach> The lines blur significantly.
[04:38] <solitude88> very true
[04:38] <overclucker> Guest31636: get a vpn
[04:39] <Tynach> Guest31636, have you ever heard of other people getting their net cut off and investigated if they did torrents?
[04:39] <Tynach> Or are you just overly paranoid?
[04:40] <akis> hi all. any idea why my xubuntu 12.04 cannot play system sounds on some applications (orage, thunderbird) althought i have already enable system sound in 'appeareance' and i have installed 'canberra'?
[04:41] <simplew> i have isntalled kde in ubuntu and now when running kde, synaptic windows is with TOO BIG fonts, how can this be fixed?
[04:42] <beydi> hey
[04:42] <Tynach> simplew, in KDE you have to force using 96 DPI or it freaks out on some programs. To do this, go to System Settings, Common Appearance and Behavior, Application Appearance, Fonts. There should be a checkbox for 'Force DPI', and make sure it's 96.
[04:43] <simplew> Tynach: i did but synpatic continues with BIG fonts
[04:44] <Tynach> simplew, did you try logging out/back in?
[04:44] <simplew> Tynach: no
[04:50] <Tynach> Does anyone know anything about changing a printer's default document type from PDF to Postscript?
[04:53] <wubino> I am trying to add driver support for a hd radeon 6670
[04:53] <wubino> I keep on getting an error during install
[04:54] <wubino> here is the error log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1280530/
[04:54] <wubino> FWIW: i did a completely new install of ubuntu 12.04
[04:54] <ChrisWhat> so did i
[04:54] <crizis^> wubino, are you trying to install 'post release' updates with additional drivers?
[04:55] <wubino> crizis^: yes
[04:55] <crizis^> that won't work
[04:55] <wubino> oh
[04:55] <crizis^> either install regular driver, or install that from console
[04:55] <crizis^> with: sudo apt-get install fglrx-updates
[04:55] <wubino> will do
[04:56] <wubino> crizis^,: is there a PPA better suited then the managed packaged driver?
[04:56] <crizis^> that was broken even in back in 11.10.. dno why they won't fix it already
[04:56] <crizis^> well, driver is quite current so don't bother
[04:56] <wubino> great
[04:56] <crizis^> fglrx-updates is catalyst 12.4
[04:56] <crizis^> regular one is iirc 11.8
[04:56] <crizis^> having 6870 myself and just running that regular one
[04:57] <crizis^> haven't really noticed any performance difference in games.. then again these cards are almost 2 years already so doubt drivers will improve them much
[04:58] <wubino> crizis^: whats the best opencl install method for an ati card?
[04:58] <crizis^> ati's drivers are basically just stubs that translate opengl calls to hardware anyway.. nvidia's drivers are pretty much artificial intelligence on their own, optimizing themselves at runtime
[04:59] <crizis^> haven't done any opencl stuff so no idea.. :)
[04:59] <wubino> crizis^: I loved my nvidia cards but this was the best bang for buck I could find
[05:00] <crizis^> ati has better hardware generally (not just performance), but nvidia has a lot of money in drivers
[05:01] <wubino> thanks for the info
[05:01] <crizis^> not that there's anything wrong with ati drivers.. it's usually much simplier to figure out what's wrong with your opengl code with ati since drivers are relatively straightforward :-)
[05:02] <werdnativ> setting up upstart scripts for my app server… Is there a way to allow my regular user to restart it?
[05:04] <Tynach> werdnativ, you can set up in the 'sudoers' file to let them run only specific commands as root.
[05:04] <werdnativ> Tynach: specific command includes arguments too, or would that allow restart anything?
[05:05] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> How can I remove a file like this? tcl_archive.tcl?mode=download&id=49
[05:06] <Tynach> werdnativ, first of all, you restart things by doing "sudo service <service> restart". You can make it so that they can do "sudo service <service> <anything>", or you can make it so they can ONLY restart, or make it so they can do anything to any service, etc. It's very flexible.
[05:06] <extropy> why does using the Alt-[Left arrow] hotkey in firefox popup the ubuntu "type your command" dialog? Isn't the window framework supposed to prevent things like this? who's to blame?
[05:06] <vanity> [_-S1L3NC3-_]:  rm -rf "<file_name>"  is not work?
[05:06] <somsip> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: rm tcl{press tab}
[05:06] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ok
[05:07] <werdnativ> if the job runs as the regular user (I'm using su currently), shouldn't the user be able to signal it without sudo?
[05:08] <Tynach> werdnativ, they have to put 'sudo' in front of the command.
[05:08] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ty
[05:09] <werdnativ> Tynach: ok. I seem to have something like this working on another server, but I think it was done with runit.
[05:09] <Codenomics> howyd
[05:09] <Codenomics> what is the best way to have an application autostart?
[05:10] <extropy> huh, only seems to do it intermittently ... still annoying as hell
[05:11] <extropy> part of it probably has something to do with the fact that this particular computer I'm using is especially slow (ubuntu catches the Alt-key before Firefox even detects it, perhaps?)
[05:11] <extropy> yay ... multithreading >.<
[05:11] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> How can I extract this? tcl_archive.tcl?mode=download&id=49
[05:12] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> i tried tar and unzip
[05:12] <Tynach> werdnativ, put something like this in the sudoers file: "<username> ALL = /etc/init.d/apache2 restart" to let them restart the apache web server, for example.
[05:12] <somsip> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: rename it to zip so unzip recognises it
[05:12] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ok
[05:12] <Tynach> They would have to type: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[05:12] <Tynach> And if it differs at all from that, it will not let them.
[05:13] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> it still wont
[05:14] <tacirus> Hello, does anybody know if there is a metacity channel (specifically for Metacity WM? ) or I can put a question right here too?
[05:14] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> unzip "lol.zip"
[05:14] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> Archive:  lol.zip
[05:14] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]>   End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not
[05:14] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]>   a zipfil
[05:14] <somsip> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: what did you download? from egghelp?
[05:14] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> yes
[05:15] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> an script from their
[05:15] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ohh
[05:15] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> bot identifier
[05:15] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> an identify script
[05:15] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> http://www.egghelp.org/cgi-bin/tcl_archive.tcl?mode=download&id=49
[05:15] <FloodBot1> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:16] <werdnativ> Tynach:  init.d isn't even upstart, but it looks like it can only be managed by root or sudo. I think what I'm looking for is specifically a runit feature. Thanks, though: http://smarden.org/runit/faq.html#user
[05:16] <somsip> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: how did you download it? Browser or command line?
[05:16] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> command line
[05:16] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> running on ubuntu
[05:16] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> i tried wget "downloadlink"
[05:16] <Transfuta> use gzip -d
[05:16] <Tynach> werdnativ, upstart is Ubuntu's replacement for SysVInit, and it aims to be backwards compatible with it... Including using the same folder path.
[05:16] <Transfuta> originally it's a .tcl.gz file
[05:16] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ok
[05:17] <werdnativ> right, I guess upstart still uses the same scripts from init.d, that's true.
[05:17] <somsip> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: wget is not following the redirect so you have downloaded an HTML file
[05:18] <werdnativ> I was hoping the /etc/init/ scripts had some user control options, besides just setuid & setgid
[05:18] <overclucker> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: wget "http://www.egghelp.org/cgi-bin/tcl_archive.tcl?mode=download&id=49" -O download.zip
[05:19] <somsip> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: wget "http://www.egghelp.org/files/tcl/bot_identifyer04.tcl.gz"
[05:19] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> nvm i got anoter download that worked
[05:19] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> thanks anyway
[05:21] <Tynach> werdnativ, you don't WANT that. You want only root (or specialized users, such as a 'mysql' user for the mysql server) to have access to the files in that folder. It's a security feature.
[05:21] <werdnativ> yeah, the files in that folder should be root. I'm talking about managing the processes they spin off.
[05:22] <robertzaccour> my webcam display is upside down all of a sudden. any suggestions?
[05:23] <Tynach> werdnativ, I'm afraid that's up to the processes themselves, not the init scripts. For example, MySQL has its own user system.
[05:24] <Tynach> robertzaccour, is your webcam upside down? Is it only in one program and not other programs?
[05:25] <Jordan_U> werdnativ: For privilege de-escalation you can simply use "su some_user -c some_command"
[05:25] <robertzaccour> Tynach, it sits on top of the monitor and has always worked fine til a few minutes ago.
[05:26] <werdnativ> Jordan_U: yes, I'm using su some_user in the init script. My point is that some_user can't issue restart to their own process without sudo.
[05:27] <Baralabite> Does anyone know of any "one command install" programs to install a mailserver + webclient for ubuntu?
[05:27] <werdnativ> upstart says: restart: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", … which looks like there is some logic behind allowing it to happen?
[05:27] <Baralabite> When I say "one command" I mean small # of commands, not litterly one
[05:28] <blackshirt> !squirrelmail | baralabite
[05:28] <Baralabite> -waiting for ubottu to inform me about squirrel mail-
[05:29] <Baralabite> If I install squirrel mail, do I still have to install the AntiVirus, Postfix, etc?
[05:30] <blackshirt> haha
[05:30] <Tynach> robertzaccour, is it only in one program, or more than one?
[05:30] <blackshirt> baralabite, if you sit on gateway,maybe you need them
[05:31] <robertzaccour> Tynach, I'm updating right now so not able to install anything atm
[05:31] <Baralabite> Okay... I'll look into it
[05:31] <Baralabite> It's just that the last "mail server" tutorial I tried had, quite litterly 500 commands
[05:31] <aidenfrost> its only neccessary if you are in gateway
[05:32] <tacirus> Folks. does anybody know if one can and how add new custom keybindings to Metacity WM in Ubuntu. I need more than predefined 12 pieces it has in it. But as I create a new binding I can read below that the key has no schema and the command doesn`t execute.
[05:35] <robertzaccour> Tynach, finished updating, gonna restart and brb
[05:35] <Tynach> Ok.
[05:38] <robertzaccour> Tynach, updating didn't work
[05:38] <robertzaccour> Tynach, cheese displays it properly
[05:39] <Tynach> robertzaccour, if one program shows it properly, and another doesn't, I'd ask in the channel for the program that doesn't work right.
[05:39] <robertzaccour> Tynach, guvcview has a channel?
[05:39] <Tynach> robertzaccour, possibly.
[05:40] <alusion> I need a way to download youtube videos in an....effecient manner <:-{D  cheers
[05:41] <somsip> alusion: youtube-dl ?
[05:41] <xangua> plenty of addons for firefox that do that alusionsi
[05:42] <robertzaccour> alusion, Try Download Helper firefox add on
[05:43] <robertzaccour> Tynach, removing and reinstalling didn't work. I'm gonna boot into unity instead and try then
[05:43] <zoogoo> finally got a wordlist for wpa bruteforcing
[05:44] <zoogoo> 4gb in size
[05:44] <somsip> !illegal
[05:45] <robertzaccour> Tynach, Same issue in Unity
[05:45] <Tynach> robertzaccour, I don't think it's a desktop environment thing. I think you should look into the program you're using that's showing the camera wrong, and find some people who are responsible for that program and ask them.
[05:56] <Tynach> Does anyone know anything about changing a printer's default document type from PDF to Postscript?
[05:57] <zetheroo> I am trying to get these network mounts to automount via fstab .. and I had this working on another system previously ... but I cannot recall where to set the username and password credentials for the mounts! In dmesg I am seeing this "[    6.626900] CIFS VFS: No username specified" which I think may be connected to the issue!?
[05:58] <Baralabite> Hey guys, I'm continually getting an error of "ERROR: Connection dropped by IMAP server." when I try to open squirrelmail, any clues to what is wrong?
[05:58] <charleyfoxtrot> just upgraded to 12.10 ... fglrx seems to have broke . Unity wasn't starting (no toolbar, no launcher) until I did "sudo apt-get remove --purge fglxr fglxr-amdcccle"
[05:59] <xangua> !12.10 | charleyfoxtrot
[05:59] <charleyfoxtrot> thanks xangua
[06:00] <KM0201> Baralabite: did you check squirrelmail's website, they have several potential causes for that error.
[06:00] <Baralabite> Thanks, I'll take a look
[06:01] <KM0201> Baralabite: http://squirrelmail.org/wiki/MailServerIMAPProblem
[06:01] <Baralabite> Thanks
[06:01] <Baralabite> Ahha....
[06:02] <suigeneris> hi
[06:02] <suigeneris> I need urgent help
[06:03] <suigeneris> I installed xen yesterday, and rebooted
[06:04] <suigeneris> now I boot the computer, it runs for a while and goes to sleep
[06:04] <suigeneris> can't wake it
[06:04] <suigeneris> goes to sleep even before the OS
[06:05] <Jordan_U> suigeneris: How did you install Xen?
[06:05] <suigeneris> !xen
[06:05] <suigeneris> Jordan_U: from this factoid
[06:07] <codenomics> howdy
[06:07] <Baralabite> G'day
[06:07] <Baralabite> I'm working through this tutorial, (http://www.unixmen.com/install-squirrel-mail-on-ubuntu-server/) but I've gotten stuck at this command: /usr/lib/courier-imap/bin/maildirmake -S /home/user/Maildir
[06:08] <Baralabite> The directory doesn't exist (/user/lib...)
[06:08] <codenomics> say I want to use term command to run a pythin file, but I want to be able to close the term afterwards
[06:08] <Baralabite> *usr
[06:08] <codenomics> what command would I use?
[06:08] <codenomics> want to start the app and that is it, dont want it to continue printing out stuffs
[06:08] <suigeneris> Jordan_U: any ideas?
[06:09] <blackshirt> baralabite, what version tutorial was on?
[06:09] <Baralabite> Version of what sorry?
[06:10] <Baralabite> If you meant version of squirrelmail blackshirt, I believe it was 1.4.21
[06:10] <blackshirt> baralabite, ubuntu version in tutorials
[06:10] <gogeta> codenomics: lol I used to know that command
[06:10] <Jordan_U> suigeneris: Try holding shift and booting one of the non-xen entries from the grub menu.
[06:10] <Baralabite> I don't know, it looks like an older one though
[06:10] <Baralabite> I'm using 12.04
[06:11] <Baralabite> It seems to be using the old screen manager (Gdm?)
[06:11] <blackshirt> baralabite, maybe
[06:12] <chronofusion1980> Ok Razor Blackwidow Ultimate keyboard here in Xubuntu 12.04 x64.  Trying to get M keys on the left to work.
[06:12] <chronofusion1980> I have googled my butt off and either I don't understand how to go about getting it done or I haven't found correct solution
[06:13] <Baralabite> blackshirt: I'll quickly look up a different version of tutorial
[06:13] <suigeneris> Jordan_U: holding shift doesn't help. any other way?
[06:14] <Jordan_U> suigeneris: Holding shift during boot doesn't bring you to a grub menu?
[06:14] <suigeneris> nope
[06:14] <chronofusion1980> Any ideas?  Anyone?
[06:14] <Jordan_U> suigeneris: Can you boot from a LiveCD/USB?
[06:14] <blackshirt> baralabite, commonly for the newer version,thats not needed
[06:14] <suigeneris> right, livecd
[06:16] <chronofusion1980> M keys on Razor blackwidow Ultimate to work in ubuntu 12.04 64 bit...anyone?
[06:16] <gogeta> codemaniac: the screen command is what you whant
[06:16] <somsip> !patience | chronofusion1980
[06:16] <Baralabite> -back-
[06:17] <MaGeD_> Hello
[06:17] <MaGeD_> if i have a machine with Ubunto 10.04 LTS server installed , and i wanted to install desktop environment " sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop " will this going to overwrite or delete any of my existing files in my home directory  ?
[06:18] <jalexandru> Hi, I'm having trouble printing, I use cups, I can access localhost:631 but if I want to go to https://localhost:631/admin?OP=add-printer I get error: No data received, also in /var/log/cups/error_log I get permission denied any help is appriciated
[06:18] <blackshirt> baralabite, if you want mail server with webclient frontend, some packages has available on repository
[06:18] <Baralabite> :}
[06:18] <Baralabite> -can see the light at the end of the tunnel!-
[06:19] <suigeneris> Jordan_U: I need to chroot, right?
[06:19] <Baralabite> What might be their names, I've been googling around for the last few months (although not continually xP) trying to find out how to do this
[06:20] <gogeta> codemaniac: ctrl+a then d it will detach the prossses then ifbyou whant it back screen -r
[06:21] <Jordan_U> suigeneris: That is one option.
[06:21] <gogeta> been a wile sense I did that heh
[06:22] <suigeneris> Jordan_U: I meant chrooting and updating grub from there
[06:22] <chronofusion1980> ubottu I already searched the typical ubuntu forums, askubuntu..etc.  this is a special case.
[06:24] <ner0x> Goodmorning, how can I stop my Xorg server so that I may run Xorg -configure ?
[06:24] <Baralabite> from terminal:
[06:24] <Baralabite> sudo stop xorg
[06:24] <Baralabite> I think
[06:24] <Baralabite> Don't quote me though
[06:24] <FloodBot1> Baralabite: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:24] <ner0x> Baralabite: Unknown Job: xorg
[06:24] <mcmlxxi> !chroot
[06:24] <Baralabite> Or else, try using: sudo stop x
[06:24] <gogeta> lol no
[06:25] <ner0x> I haven't have this issue in forever. And it's odd I can't find it in the ps auxf.
[06:25] <ner0x> I assumed it would be x11-common in /etc/init.d/ but I was wrong.
[06:25] <Baralabite> Note: Ner0x, once you type in sudo stop x, you'll have to do all the work from tty1/6
[06:25] <Baralabite> i think
[06:25] <Baralabite> I don't really know :3
[06:25] <gogeta> service ldm restart
[06:26] <gogeta> that will restart x
[06:26] <Baralabite> I generally use: sudo restart lightdm
[06:26] <mcmlxxi> Jordan_U: this is suigeneris. I forget how to chroot. can you tell me?
[06:26] <Baralabite> or sudo stop lightdm
[06:26] <tacirus> I have an icon in the upper panel that foesn`t show the actual keyboard layout. Where do I fix it?
[06:26] <gogeta> lightdm that's correct
[06:26] <tacirus> I didn`t find anything in the keybaord settings
[06:27] <ner0x> gogeta: That may work.
[06:27] <ner0x> Amazing the simple things you forever when you don't do them often.
[06:27] <Baralabite> blackshirt: What might be the names of the packges on the repo, I found sqwebmail, but I don't really like it...
[06:28] <gogeta> well it used to be gem but they use lighten now
[06:28] <gogeta> lightdm
[06:28] <Baralabite> *gdm
[06:28] <ner0x> Baralabite: Right, I was actually looking for gdm. Even though technicaly I'm on Xubuntu
[06:28] <Baralabite> Ahh, okay
[06:28] <gogeta> yea auto correct hell
[06:29] <Baralabite> Just throwing it out there - does anyone know how to log into sqwebmail?
[06:30] <blackshirt> baralabite, usually with user on system
[06:31] <Baralabite> I understand that, but where?
[06:31] <Baralabite> like: http://localhost/sqwebmail/?
[06:31] <Baralabite> (Which doesn't work)
[06:31] <ner0x> Be back in a second gentlemen, have to restart to see if this worked.
[06:32] <Baralabite> Ahha!
[06:32] <Baralabite> 192.168.1.2/cgi-bin/sqwebmail
[06:33] <Baralabite> Internal error (module sqconfig.c, line 76) - contact system administrator -_-
[06:33] <Baralabite> I'm getting sick of these errors
[06:33] <Baralabite> It doesn't tell me enough to fix it
[06:38] <Baralabite> If only my budget wasn't $0 - other wise this looks great... http://atmail.com/
[06:39] <mcmlxxi> Jordan_U: are you there? you said chroot was one option. what's another option?
[06:40] <idefix> what is an x terminal emulator good for?
[06:40] <Baralabite> idefix: For emulating the x terminal!
[06:41] <mcmlxxi> I get these when I try to update-grub2 in chroot: /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: 34: /usr/share/grub/grub-mkconfig_lib: cannot create /dev/null: Permission denied /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[06:41] <Baralabite> Sorry.. I just had to :}
[06:41] <somsip> idefix: it allows you to use a termina lin X
[06:41] <idefix> Baralabite somsip, what's the difference between the x-terminal that already exists?
[06:41] <Baralabite> I've no clue - I was just kiddin'
[06:42] <somsip> idefix: between that and what?
[06:42] <Guest42475> I cannot log any longer normally, I am facing a graphic glitch on login screen
[06:42] <idefix> you see, I could already use x-terminal now I get this update suggestion for the x-terminal emulator..
[06:42] <Baralabite> Guest: Try what I say:
[06:42] <Baralabite> I don't know if it's any good but:
[06:43] <Guest42475> Sorry trying to change my name :-)
[06:43] <Baralabite> Press: Ctrl+Alt+F1
[06:43] <Baralabite> Type in your login details
[06:43] <Baralabite> Then type in sudo start lightdm
[06:43] <Guest42475> Thank you Baralabite
[06:43] <Baralabite> and re-type in your password
[06:43] <Baralabite> It may not be any good :/
[06:43] <idefix> somsip?
[06:44] <Guest42475> So once the boot has opened and I am presented with the login screen to input password and username, there is one single colour all over the screen
[06:44] <somsip> idefix: < somsip> idefix: between that and what?
[06:44] <Guest42475> @ Bara I am using an ATI card
[06:45] <Baralabite> Guest42475: Okay, does BIOS show correctly?
[06:45] <Guest42475> I have installed the drivers from AMD, but it was fine until this morning
[06:45] <Guest42475> Yep everything
[06:45] <Baralabite> And is it a laptop, or desktop?
[06:45] <Guest42475> GRUB seeems fine too, I have my windows 7 and Ubuntu presented to me
[06:45] <Guest42475> Desktop
[06:45] <Baralabite> So, windows 7 works fine, but not ubuntu?
[06:45] <timfrost> mcmlxxi: how was the chroot environment set up?  That error suggests that you haven't set up /dev in the chroot ( see http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1156240.html for an example)
[06:45] <Guest42475> Everything boots normally until the login screen
[06:46] <Baralabite> Okay, just try this again:
[06:46] <Baralabite> CTRL+ALT+F1
[06:46] <Guest42475> when it's all corrupt and I can't type neither password nor username, not choose my Ubu session (gnome/unity)
[06:46] <Baralabite> Type in the login details
[06:46] <Baralabite> Then: sudo restart lightdm
[06:46] <Ex0deus> hmm
[06:46] <Guest42475> Actually I am using Ubuntu but an older version...
[06:46] <Ex0deus> so your screen looks all messed up?
[06:46] <Baralabite> And see how what I just suggested goes
[06:47] <Guest42475> sort of yes
[06:47] <Guest42475> do I type that after the boot finished or before?
[06:47] <Ex0deus> it could simply be an incorrect setting in your xorg.conf ... a bad refresh tate
[06:47] <Ex0deus> rate even
[06:48] <Guest42475> I am using the previous kernel....31 I believe
[06:48] <Guest42475> .31
[06:48] <Ex0deus> 2.31?
[06:48] <Guest42475> It is happening with the new one
[06:48] <Ex0deus> 2.6.31
[06:48] <Guest42475> yes that one
[06:48] <Poent> what does the "network" and "broadcast" options specify in the network/interface config?
[06:48] <Baralabite> What is apache's "username"
[06:48] <somsip> Baralabite: www-data
[06:48] <Baralabite> Thanks
[06:49] <Guest42475> Funny it was working all fine until this morning
[06:49] <Baralabite> That did it somsip
[06:49] <Ex0deus> hmm
[06:49] <Guest42475> I thought maybe the graphic drivers corrupted it but I am typing this from the previous kernel and same drivers
[06:49] <Guest42475> on the same machine
[06:50] <Guest42475> @Bara when do I type this: CTRL+ALT+F1?
[06:50] <Poent> found the answer to my question at: http://linux.about.com/od/ubusrv_doc/a/ubusg17t03.htm
[06:50] <Ex0deus> hmm
[06:51] <Ex0deus> Guest42475: you would do that at the spot where the loginscreen should be
[06:51] <mcmlxxi> I get error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?). even though I have /dev mounted. any ideas?
[06:51] <Ex0deus> that should just change your terminal... probably to tty1 i believe
[06:52] <Ex0deus> where if all is ok... you should see a shell login
[06:52] <Ex0deus> if you don't... try ctrl+alt+f2 or f3
[06:53] <Ex0deus> that will allow you to login to a shell... then from the shell we can try and figure out whats wrong... and fix it..
[06:53] <aneek> does anyone knows how to create portable apps for ubuntu /linux?
[06:54] <Techna_Rave_Pony> I don't know how, but I have tools that package them
[06:55] <aneek> techna whts that tool
[06:55] <aneek> ?
[06:55] <Techna_Rave_Pony> it's two or three tools, I picked them up a few years back
[06:56] <aneek> can u tell me name techna ?
[06:56] <Techna_Rave_Pony> the site was taken down
[06:56] <Techna_Rave_Pony> I can only do as good as to tar them and megaupload them
[06:57] <mcmlxxi> I get error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?). even though I have /dev mounted. any ideas?
[06:57] <mcmlxxi> I'm in chroot
[06:57] <aneek> i don't think that it ill make them protable
[06:57] <aneek> i need something like thininstall for window
[06:57] <Techna_Rave_Pony> Oh
[06:58] <Poent> what is the first room you get connect to on irc called?
[06:58] <Poent> before you join a channel
[06:58] <Techna_Rave_Pony> that's the server itself
[06:58] <somsip> Poent: status
[06:58] <MaGeD_> if i have a machine with Ubunto 10.04 LTS server installed , and i wanted to install desktop environment " sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop " will this going to overwrite or delete any of my existing files in my home directory ?
[06:58] <MaGeD_> anyone ? :)
[06:59] <Poent> MaGeD_: you totally shouldnt install a GUI
[06:59] <Ex0deus> aneek: have you checked out
[06:59] <Ex0deus> man chroot
[07:00] <MaGeD_> Poent : Thanks , well it's not like a critical machine ,,
[07:00] <MaGeD_> just for personal usage
[07:00] <Techna_Rave_Pony> Upgrade to Quantal Time, should only take a few hours, right?
[07:00] <Poent> MaGeD_: there are some good tutorials though. here is one: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-gui-in-ubuntu-server.html
[07:01] <MaGeD_> thanks
[07:01] <somsip> Techna_Rave_Pony: 12.10 is not released yet so it should not be recommended as an upgrade
[07:01] <Poent> MaGeD_: sure thing, that is a bit out of date though. you may need to search around a bit if you run into issues
[07:01] <Techna_Rave_Pony> It's my personal machine, I use it for movies and games and stuff
[07:02] <Techna_Rave_Pony> I use bleeding edge stuff anyway
[07:02] <Techna_Rave_Pony> plus, release in the next week
[07:02] <somsip> Techna_Rave_Pony: you can use what you want, it's just not good form to recommed to others
[07:02] <Techna_Rave_Pony> I know
[07:02] <Techna_Rave_Pony> I wasn't reccomending anything
[07:04] <somsip> Techna_Rave_Pony: fair enough.
[07:04] <Techna_Rave_Pony> Goodbye for now
[07:09] <Poent> anything on 192.168 should have a boradcast address of 1.255 right?
[07:12] <chronofusion1980> Trying to get Xubuntu 12.04 x64 to recognize the M keys on lefthand side of Razor Blackwidow Utlimate 2013 keyboard to set up hotkeys
[07:12]  * Calinou shrugs
[07:12] <Calinou> have fun ignoring these keys
[07:13] <chronofusion1980> ?? Calinou were you talking to or about me?
[07:18] <chronofusion1980> And in case anyone wants to suggest this, I have already searched the ubuntu forums, askubuntu, etc
[07:20] <somsip> chronofusion1980: Does this help? http://superuser.com/questions/342107/getting-macro-keys-from-a-razer-blackwidow-to-work-on-linux
[07:21]  * Baralabite laughed when looked at url
[07:23] <ignaciojesus1> ç/help list
[07:24] <somsip> !list | ignaciojesus1
[07:24] <Baralabite> I think I found it!
[07:25] <Baralabite> The gold at the end of the rainbow!
[07:25] <Baralabite> Citadel suite!
[07:26] <ner0x> Baralabite: Alright, got it working.
[07:27] <Baralabite> I've forgotten what you were working on... I've been tied up with webmail :3
[07:27] <poent> is there an easy way to tell if i'm identified with the nick serv? is that mode +i?
[07:28] <auronandace> poent: join a channel that requires an identified nick (like #openbsd)
[07:29] <poent> huh. worked
[07:29] <poent> near
[07:29] <poent> neat*
[07:29] <fidel_> i somehow remember that whois should output that as well - but apart from that its a question for #help and not #ubuntu
[07:29] <chronofusion1980> ok got to step 5 in that " built the utility"   ( cabal configure) in terminal gave me " Please create a package description file <pkgname>.cabal
[07:29] <poent> anyone else on here using irssi?
[07:29] <chronofusion1980> I have no clue how to do that
[07:29] <iceroot> i want that every file creates in a directory belongs to a specific user (doesnt matter which user is creating that file) what is the way for it?
[07:29] <iceroot> poent: #irssi
[07:29] <poent> awesome
[07:31] <smellysally> is software for pdf annotations available on ubuntu? I tried evince and okular so far. evince only can do text annotations. okular has at least a highlight function and basic drawing tools, but it can't save to pdf. any alternatives?
[07:31] <Baralabite> I don't know much about it, but I think there is some kind of anotation thing in Compiz
[07:32] <chronofusion1980> somsip my gut feeling says you're on the right track.  Just hitting that one wall about creating that package
[07:32] <somsip> smellysally: you need a pdf editor, or just something that annotates?
[07:33] <somsip> chronofusion1980: I have no idea. I use a filco. I just found a link that look pretty informative for you
[07:33] <hateball> smellysally: it should be possible with okular 0.15+ which should be included in 12.10
[07:33] <hateball> smellysally: see http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdegraphics/okular/annotations.html
[07:33] <smellysally> somsip: annotations mostly, text marking. simple drawing would be nice.
[07:34] <somsip> smellysally: k - look like hateball know what he's talking about, so i'll sidle off...
[07:34] <chronofusion1980> thanks either way somsip.  does anyone know how I can create that package to continue with those steps
[07:35] <Baralabite> What's the command to completely remove an apt-get program?
[07:35] <smellysally> hateball: thanks, I didn't know that. still on 12.04, hough. :)   I'll try to build from source.
[07:35] <Baralabite> "autoremove", "purge"?
[07:35] <Baralabite> Neither of these are working
[07:36] <chronofusion1980> i think it's " sudo apt-get remove programname
[07:36] <hateball> smellysally: Good luck. I've no idea if it depends on newer kdelibs or so. 12.10 wont be long tho ;)
[07:36] <smellysally> hateball: well, I prefer to stick to LTS. building from source is worth a try, at least. :)
[07:37] <hateball> smellysally: Sure :)
[07:38] <chronofusion1980> man if it wasn't for handbrake-gtk being able to rip my movie collection faster with same quality settings and shrink the files much better than win 7 x64 handbrake x64, i'd go right back to windows
[07:39] <chronofusion1980> Anyone have an y idea how i can get the M keys on Razor blackwidow keyboard to finally function in xubuntu 12.04 x64?
[07:39] <hateball> !apt | Baralabite
[07:40] <poent> !apt | tmux
[07:40] <somsip> !notworking | Baralabite
[07:40] <poent> ha
[07:40] <somsip> Baralabite: explain what 'not working' means
[07:42] <Baralabite> somsip: I installed "Citadel", while it was installing, it asked me a few questions, like what mySQL and apache do, I filled them in, now I want to re-fill them in. To do this I figure I have to uninstall citadel, and re-install it. But when I re-isntall it, it doesn't fully remove it, because when I install citadel again, it doesn't ask me the questions.
[07:44] <llutz_> Baralabite: you need to "apt-get purge citadel"  to get it completly removed or use "sudo dpkg-reconfigure citadel"
[07:44] <somsip> Baralabite: try 'sudo apt-get purge {package}', but it might be worth checking /etc, /opt, ~/ for any orphaned config files if it is still not doing what you want. You may need to investigate the package more to find out where it stores files
[07:45] <Baralabite> Well, I've tried purge (as I said above), but I'll check /etc /opt and home
[07:46] <hateball> Baralabite: It's probably not purging the MySQL DB it created for you during install, and that's likely where it stores most of the things
[07:47] <Baralabite> Interesting suggestion hateball, will look into it :D
[07:47] <rocket_hamster> is there a way to donate to ubuntu without paypal?
[07:47] <Baralabite> It didn't create a mysql db :/
[07:48] <researcher123> I have created a root password using sudo passwd root. But I cant see that option for Login upon booting.Please HELP
[07:48] <Baralabite> BAM! I got it!
[07:48] <Baralabite> sudo dpkg-reconfigure citadel-webcit - a dependancty
[07:48] <somsip> !root | researcher123
[07:49] <gogo__> Hello, I have a strange problem. I am using radeon driver on Ubuntu with mesa 9. My card is rv730(hd4650) and it is compatible with opengl 3.3. But glxinfo shows supported opengl version is 2.1 only. I have seen others getting opengl version as 3.0 on same rv730 card. I am a bit confused about this.
[07:49] <researcher123> I have created a root password using sudo passwd root. But I cant see that option for Login upon booting.I know the password very well but from where to enter username root and its password?
[07:50] <researcher123> !root
[07:50] <llutz_> researcher123: having root-account enabled is not supported here. if you think you need it, youll know how to use it.
[07:50] <blackshirt> usually, root login was not permitted under gui login
[07:51] <chronofusion1980> Ok am i in the wrong place to ask for help?
[07:52] <mcmlxxi> I get error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?). even though I have /dev mounted. any ideas?
[07:52] <mcmlxxi> I'm in chroot
[07:53] <mcmlxxi> should I have mounted it outside of chroot?
[07:53] <err-or> mcmlxxi: how did you mount /dev?
[07:54] <llutz_> mcmlxxi: beofre chrooting: mount -o bind /dev /path/chroot/dev
[07:54] <mcmlxxi> err-or: mount -o bind /dev /mnt/ubuntu/point/dev/
[07:54] <mcmlxxi> llutz_: thanks
[07:55] <mcmlxxi> brb
[07:57] <n1> hi. anyone using vodafone mobile connect dongle?
[07:59] <researcher123> how to make available username root on the login screen?
[08:00] <Baralabite> You cannot log in as root.
[08:00] <Baralabite> If you are really desperate, open terminal and type in: "sudo su"
[08:00] <Baralabite> That current terminal session will be as root then
[08:00] <llutz_> cleaner to use "sudo -i"
[08:01] <akis> i want to place 'orage' to my systray on my Ubuntu 12.04. Giving 'systray' in orage's preferences nothing happens. Is it possible to run in systray or ti isnt because systray on Ubuntu 12.04 is locked. Any other oprion, suggection or idea?
[08:07] <bigpotato> anybody?
[08:08] <bigpotato> I have a question about vim plugin ProtoDef
[08:08] <suigeneris> hi
[08:09] <suigeneris> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1156240.html <--- I'm trying to work through this
[08:10] <suigeneris> cp /etc/resolv.conf /mount/point/etc/resolv.conf <--- there's no /etc/ under mount point
[08:11] <suigeneris> it's like / hasn't been mounted
[08:13] <FRA998> ciao
[08:13] <somsip> !list | FRA998
[08:13] <FRA998> !list
[08:14] <somsip> hah
[08:15] <llutz_> somsip: :D
[08:15] <somsip> llutz_: been waiting days to catch one :-)
[08:17] <dimmy> ?
[08:17] <dimmy> help
[08:17] <gartral> !help | dimmy
[08:18] <llutz_> somsip: they should make ubottu to autorespond "list" whenever one comes in saying "ciao"
[08:18] <somsip> llutz_: zactly :)
[08:18] <gartral> how does one do a FULL networked x session?
[08:21] <randomDude> gartral: by using xdmcp remote login
[08:22] <randomDude> gartral: http://ubuntuguide.net/enable-xdmcp-remote-login-in-ubuntu-12-04-lts-lightdm
[08:23] <chronofusion1980> ....this is the reason why windows " just works" and linux.." is just a headache and sucks"   no help.  no way..just barebones crap
[08:23] <MonkeyDust> chronofusion1980  no rants here please
[08:24] <gordonjcp> !ask | chronofusion1980
[08:24] <leotr> can i convert my /usr partition to squashfs?
[08:25] <chronofusion1980> well?  I've come on this channel and this server in Xchat numerous times asking for help...I never get it...yet I always try or successfully help someone else. and save the bs auto bot reply ok...see also..." I ask a question and i'm ignored
[08:25] <ikonia> leotr: why would you do that
[08:25] <gordonjcp> leotr: kind of
[08:25] <chronofusion1980> I have asked...tons of times
[08:25] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: asked what?
[08:25] <gordonjcp> leotr: makes no sense unless you're running from something like flash memory
[08:25] <MonkeyDust> chronofusion1980  maybe it's bacause nobody has the answer to your question, that happens
[08:25] <somsip> chronofusion1980: you are asking (about the razer) a specialised question that you couldn't find distinct help on anywhere else. You may need to eb a bit more patient, or try when more users are on
[08:25] <leotr> ikonia: i'm not going to modify it, make partition size minimal to faster deply
[08:25] <chronofusion1980> how to get M keys on Razor blackwidow Ultimate keyboard to work in xubuntu 12.04 64 bit
[08:26] <somsip> chronofusion1980: have you trued Razor support forums?
[08:26] <gartral> randomDude: it mentions Xmanager, what is that, specifically?
[08:26] <chronofusion1980> tried steps on http://superuser.com/questions/342107/getting-macro-keys-from-a-razer-blackwidow-to-work-on-linux when try " cabal configure"  i get " package not found...create the package"
[08:26] <leotr> it will be kiosk app
[08:27] <ikonia> leotr: but it will basically be running from ram
[08:27] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: yeah, it doesn't look like there's an easy way
[08:27] <chronofusion1980> and yes I have..no one  knows any ppa, installer package, cabal, python package work arounds to get it working
[08:27] <ikonia> and you'll have to unsquash it on demand
[08:27] <ikonia> or store the whole file system in ram unsquashed
[08:27] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: I'm reading that just now
[08:27] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: http://finch.am/projects/blackwidow/
[08:27] <somsip> chronofusion1980: are you in the EnableRazer dir when you run that?
[08:27] <gordonjcp> ^ that guy seems to be a bit further along
[08:27] <leotr> ikonia: will i have to unsquash it in read-only mode?
[08:27] <chronofusion1980> I just typed in those steps in terminal..hell i dont know.. Ubuntu noob here
[08:27] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: <shrug>
[08:28] <chronofusion1980> I have no clue how to create a package
[08:28] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: you probably don't need to create a package
[08:28] <somsip> chronofusion1980: you've just cloned the package from git. But gordonjcp has provided a link which might be an easier solution for you
[08:28] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: noobishness is no excuse for rudeness though; I'm a total Windows noob but I manage to ask in a reasonably civil manner in ##windows ;-)
[08:29] <ikonia> leotr: you can do it read/write
[08:29] <ikonia> leotr: but I don't see what you hope to get by doing this ?
[08:29] <chronofusion1980> here's the difference..windows just works  LInux requires severe manual tweaking.  and I wasn't being rude.  I didn't realize that here when you ask a quesiton that no one knows the answer to..you get ignored  instead of " sorry not sure" by anyone
[08:29] <defswork> why cant the fucking clowns that release new versions of thunderbird wait until lightning is also available for that version
[08:30] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: I don't find it requires manual tweaking, but then I don't use weirdass hardware that only has Windows support
[08:30] <chronofusion1980> anyways..I tried that url gordon  already have the python-usb packages via synaptic package manager install, but not sure what to do next
[08:30] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: I find windows baffling and impenetrable
[08:30] <llutz_> chronofusion1980: you seriously  don't  want >1500 users in the channel say "sorry wwe don't know"
[08:30] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: download that blackwidow_enable.py and run it
[08:31] <Calinou_> chronofusion1980: windows locks you*
[08:31] <Calinou_> FTFY
[08:31] <chronofusion1980> ok did that..when i run it my text editor opens it up with a ton of info
[08:31] <gordonjcp> that's what you want
[08:31] <Calinou_> any linux distro (pretty much "but ubuntu") is not a product, it's a FOSS project
[08:31] <leotr> ikonia: i'm going to make a kiosk application (Xserver + PySide). So i install all required packages on prototype machine and when everything works - compress it so no modifications will be made to it
[08:31] <gordonjcp> just run it, with something like "python ./blackwidow_enable.py"
[08:32] <chronofusion1980> ?? so i type that in terminal?
[08:32] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: consider this though; you're probably one of a couple of thousand people who own this keyboard, and one of a handful of people who own this keyboard *and* use Linux
[08:32] <MonkeyDust> chronofusion1980  if you're a beginner with ubuntu, it means you're learning something new - that can be frustrating, sometimes
[08:32] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: so you're already doing something unusual
[08:33] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: I mean right now I'm working with some radio equipment that has no drivers at all for either Windows or Linux, which is taking quite a bit of heavy duty thinking
[08:33]  * MonkeyDust wonders: people don't mind learning windows, but they do mind learning linux
[08:34] <llutz_> people dont "learn" windows, they just use it, they grew up with it
[08:34] <chronofusion1980> because Monkeydust..windows is a hell of a lot easy to deal with.lol.  but I seriously want to replace windows with this distro...getting the m keys to work and gaming.will complete that..LOVE handbrake-gtk
[08:34] <gordonjcp> llutz_: not necessarily
[08:34] <gordonjcp> llutz_: I didn't
[08:34] <llutz_> gordonjcp: me too, but as you said: were a handfull of people
[08:34] <llutz_> we're
[08:34] <gordonjcp> llutz_: I've been using Windows XP for a bit more than six months now, and I still find it baffling and enraging
[08:34] <chronofusion1980> yes.they do..just like learning how to ride a bike..then learning how to drive a motorcycle
[08:35] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: I didn't
[08:35] <gartral> chronofusion1980: obscure gaming hardware can be a PiTA to get working, and usually there's less that 100 people who have a similar setup, maybe 10-15 of those have a god grasp on how to make it work, I myself am tackling getting a driver together for use with the Razer Lachesis mouse to set it's profiles without a windows installation
[08:35] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: I hadn't touched a Windows machine before the beginning of this year...
[08:35] <chronofusion1980> anyways...I typed that ./blackwidow_enable.py in terminal..yet i said " no such file or directory
[08:35] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: well, maybe that's not where the file is
[08:35] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: Firefox will probably want to save it in ~/Downloads
[08:36] <gartral> chronofusion1980: try this: python ./Downloads/blackwidow_enable.py
[08:36] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: on pretty much any Unix-y command line (Linux, BSD, OSX, whatever) ~ means your home directory
[08:36] <poent> qexi
[08:36] <poent> huuurrrr
[08:37] <chronofusion1980> i found the find i think " blackwidow_enable.py  " it is in downloads  " type" is Python script..when i double click it. it pulls up that file as a text file..so..how do i run it?
[08:38] <gartral> chronofusion1980: open a terminal and run python ~/Downloads/blackwidow_enable.py
[08:39] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: hope you're making notes
[08:39] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: you can stick this up online somewhere and it'll help the next person who takes a crazy notion to use a weird proprietary keyboard with Linux ;-)
[08:39] <chronofusion1980> yes...and received " blackwidow no found..yet i'm looking right at the file " blackwidow_enable.py
[08:39] <chronofusion1980> 2.9 kb size
[08:39] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: can you pastebin the contents of your terminal?
[08:40] <chronofusion1980> pastebin?
[08:40] <gordonjcp> !pastebin
[08:40] <gordonjcp> awfully handy for this sort of thing
[08:41] <chronofusion1980> ok i think i did that now
[08:41] <chronofusion1980> Paste from chronofusion1980 at Mon, 15 Oct 2012 09:41:26 +0000
[08:42] <gordonjcp> got the URL to it?
[08:42] <chronofusion1980> sorry   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1280739/
[08:42] <gordonjcp> okay
[08:42] <gordonjcp> so you're running the script, that's working correctly
[08:42] <gordonjcp> it's not detecting the keyboard, for some reason
[08:43] <gordonjcp> give me a sec so I can get the Magic Macbook
[08:43] <chronofusion1980> it allows me to set " f1 " and every other button for hotkeys EXCEPT the M keys
[08:43] <chronofusion1980> hehe..okedoky
[08:43] <gartral> gordonjcp: I believe the Black Widow is a mousse
[08:43] <chronofusion1980> no.it's a keyboard...the mouse I'm using is the Razor Naga
[08:44] <gartral> oh ok
[08:44] <gartral> that's right, Razer names their Keyboard after spiders, and mice after Snames
[08:44] <gartral> Snake*
[08:44] <gartral> s
[08:44] <gartral> >.<
[08:45] <somsip> chronofusion1980: best check - what version of ubuntu are you running?
[08:45] <chronofusion1980> Xubuntu 12.04 64 bit
[08:45] <somsip> chronofusion1980: k - should be up to date then
[08:46] <chronofusion1980> I thought about could i run the windows synapse 2.0 software for it via Wine, but native is always better i think
[08:46] <gartral> chronofusion1980: to make this a little easier, open up your terminal and run sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[08:46] <gordonjcp> I'm going to have to leave my macbook to warm up for ten minutes
[08:46] <gogeta> rawr
[08:47] <gordonjcp> it's been sitting in the laptop bag in the back of the van
[08:47] <chronofusion1980> done
[08:47] <gordonjcp> it's working just fine, it's just too cold to type on comfortably ;-)
[08:47] <chronofusion1980> said " pastebinit is already the newest version
[08:47] <gogeta> gordonjcp: heh
[08:47] <somsip> chronofusion1980: and pastebin the output from 'sudo lshw'.
[08:47] <gartral> chronofusion1980: you're wrong about Wine. As the Synapse application is actually a driver wrapper it won't detect the keyboard and will report "No Device"
[08:48] <gogeta> gordonjcp: freeze your macbook
[08:48] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: pastebin the output of "lsusb"
[08:48] <gartral> chronofusion1980: make that sudo lshw | pastebinit
[08:49] <gordonjcp> gartral: no, lshw isn't what I'm looking for
[08:49] <chronofusion1980> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1280744/ for the  "sudo lshw"
[08:49] <Niarf> hi
[08:49] <gogeta> gordonjcp: ?
[08:49] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: incidentally do you understand what "sudo lshw | pastebinit" does?
[08:49] <gordonjcp> gogeta: I just want the USB IDs
[08:50] <gordonjcp> gogeta: lshw isn't useful for that
[08:50] <chronofusion1980> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1280746/ for " sudo lsusb
[08:50] <Niarf> anyone knowns pam_krb5 parameters ?
[08:50] <Niarf> -n
[08:50] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: stop a minute
[08:50] <Niarf> when I set a ream, auth.log say "unknown option" :((
[08:50] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: do you know what sudo means?
[08:50] <Niarf> realm*
[08:50] <gogeta> gordonjcp: don't you just do lshw | grep usb
[08:50] <somsip> chronofusion1980: and you say you have a mouse and a keybd, both razer?
[08:51] <chronofusion1980> yes.sudo means to run or do a command with elevated permissions or something coherent to that...not sure if it's equal to root.
[08:51] <gordonjcp> yup
[08:51] <gordonjcp> it is, it lets you run stuff as root
[08:51] <chronofusion1980> yes somsip.  keyboard=Blackwidow Ultimate 2013 edition,  mouse=Naga
[08:51] <gordonjcp> be *very careful* what you're doing when people tell you to run commands with sudo
[08:52] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: so "sudo lshw | pastebinit" means "run lshw as root, and then pipe the output to pastebinit"
[08:52] <somsip> gordonjcp: so his keybd product_id doesn't match that in the script. Do we recommend he edits the script with his product_id and see what it does <dodgy>
[08:52] <chronofusion1980> indeed so i have heard...  :D
[08:52] <gordonjcp> somsip: that's where I'm going with this
[08:52] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: right, time for some hacking
[08:52] <somsip> gordonjcp: I'll back off - you have more experience from here
[08:52] <gordonjcp> your keyboard doesn't match the one in the script
[08:52] <chronofusion1980> ok.so giving the lsusb info i pasted in pastebin at the url i gave..what do ya think?
[08:52] <chronofusion1980> i'm all eyes gordon..shoot
[08:53] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: quick primer on USB - each device has a unique Vendor ID and Product ID
[08:53] <gartral> gordonjcp: incidentally, as I also run both a Razer Mouse (The Lachesis) and a Razer Keyboard (The Lycosa) my lsusb may prove useful!
[08:53] <gordonjcp> gartral: good point
[08:53] <chronofusion1980> that may be true gartral
[08:53] <gartral> gordonjcp: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1280748/
[08:54] <gordonjcp> so, Razer has VID 0x1532 and you've got two PIDs 0x002e and 0x011a
[08:54] <crizis> gartral, i have arctosa myself and multimedia keys on it work out of box without any tuning btw
[08:54] <chronofusion1980> logitech keyboards use damn near all the same setpoint softwares or drivers or both
[08:54] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: the script is looking for 1532:010d
[08:54] <eigar> How can I launch "open with" from command line?
[08:54] <gogeta> gordonjcp: lsusb that's handy to
[08:54] <gordonjcp> I'm going to guess that the keyboard is 0x011a
[08:54] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: type in "gedit ~/Downloads/blackwidow_enable.py"
[08:54] <chronofusion1980> k one sec please
[08:55] <gordonjcp> and where you see 0x010d on line 17, change that to 0x011a
[08:55] <chronofusion1980> done
[08:55] <tommaso> 2012 ita
[08:55] <gogeta> must be a slow night
[08:56] <chronofusion1980> opened up the same text file..only in the gedit way
[08:56] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: save it, quit out of gedit, and try running blackwidow_enable now
[08:57] <chronofusion1980> still keeps opening the text file
[08:58] <gordonjcp> gartral: interesting
[08:58] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: what does?
[08:58] <chronofusion1980> leafpad
[08:58] <gordonjcp> well leafpad will work too
[08:58] <chronofusion1980> is python a program that i can select to run a script with?  that's the misunderstanding im having righ tnow
[08:58] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: not really, no
[08:59] <MonkeyDust> chronofusion1980  python is a scripting code
[08:59] <gartral> chronofusion1980: try python ~/Downloads/blackwidow_enable.py
[08:59] <chronofusion1980> shall i pastebin all the info in this text file?  perhaps that will shed some more light on it?
[08:59] <chronofusion1980> ok one sec
[09:00] <chronofusion1980> "blackwidow not found
[09:01] <chronofusion1980> ys.stderr.write("Could not write the magic bytes to the BlackWidow.\n")  is just one part that is in the text file of blackwidow_enable.py
[09:02] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: no, I've got it open here in an editor
[09:02] <gordonjcp> have you got it open in leafpad or gedit or something?
[09:02] <chronofusion1980> leafpad opens it by default
[09:02] <chronofusion1980> i saved it like you said when it was open in gedit
[09:02] <Ari_G> hello! i'm on natty narwahl and i'd like to know which day the support ends. October 31rst?
[09:03] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: ah okay, stop double-clicking it
[09:03] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: so you edited with gedit, changed that value, and saved?
[09:03] <chronofusion1980> changed that value?   ??
[09:03] <gordonjcp> yeah
[09:03] <chronofusion1980> you never said anything about changing any value
[09:03] <gordonjcp> right okay, let's go again ;-)
[09:03] <chronofusion1980> i got it open in gedit
[09:04] <gordonjcp> cool
[09:04] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: look for a line that says "USB_PRODUCT = 0x010d"
[09:04] <gordonjcp> that's the product ID for that guy's keyboard
[09:04] <chronofusion1980> found it
[09:05] <gordonjcp> change that to say "0x011a" which is the product ID from your keyboard
[09:05] <chronofusion1980> USB_PRODUCT = 0x010d  # BlackWidow / BlackWidow Ultimate
[09:05] <chronofusion1980> k one sec pleae
[09:05] <gordonjcp> (probably)
[09:05] <chronofusion1980> done.  now save it ..or save it to a particular location?
[09:06] <gordonjcp> no, just save it and exit gedit
[09:06] <chronofusion1980> done
[09:06] <Beastie> The ubuntu kernel is the only kernel that I have been able to get to boot so far using powerpc
[09:06] <gordonjcp> Beastie: at least it boots
[09:07] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: try running it now with python ~/Downloads/blackwidow_enable.py
[09:07] <chronofusion1980> "unable to claim the configuration interface. Do you have the appropriate privileges? "
[09:07] <chronofusion1980> perhaps sudo first then that command ?
[09:07] <gordonjcp> we're getting somewhere
[09:07] <gordonjcp> yup, give that a shot
[09:08] <Beastie> Well looks like ubuntu is loading right now.
[09:08] <chronofusion1980> CONFIGURED BLACKWIDOW!!!!   :D   GIGGIDEE!!
[09:08] <chronofusion1980> i hope :D
[09:08] <MonkeyDust> Ari_G  11.04Natty Narwhal28 April 2011     28 October 2012
[09:08] <toc> I'd like to set up and use squid...is there anyone familiar with it that could help? :)
[09:09] <chronofusion1980> so now what may i ask?
[09:09] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: good question
[09:09] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: incidentally, drop the guy that wrote blackwidow_enable.py an email explaining that it seems to work with your keyboard using that PID
[09:10] <gordonjcp> maybe he'll be able to expand his program so it'll detect automatically your version of the keyboard
[09:10] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: and when you do that, congratulations, you're an open-source contributor
[09:10] <Ari_G> MonkeyDust: Thanks a lot!
[09:10] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: you've helped make Linux a little bit better for others
[09:10] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: feels good, right?
[09:10] <MonkeyDust> chronofusion1980  then you are the blackwidow-linux expert, how's that!
[09:11] <chronofusion1980> sounds good to me.  I'll definitely do that.  I know at least 20 other friends of mine on my email lists that use razor gaming k eyboards..and many of them gave up on linux beause of this...
[09:11] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: okay, fire up the Settings->Hardware->Keyboard control panel
[09:11] <chronofusion1980> hehe..
[09:11] <chronofusion1980> well for me i think it's Settings manager...then keyboard
[09:11] <gordonjcp> yup
[09:12] <gordonjcp> and look for "Shortcuts"
[09:12] <chronofusion1980> Behavior, application shortcuts, and Layout" tabs
[09:12] <gordonjcp> application shortcuts
[09:12] <gordonjcp> sorry, I'm on 12.10 here so you may need to guess a bit
[09:12] <chronofusion1980> yeah..application shortcuts..just tried to set chromium to launch with M1 but nothing happened..
[09:12] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: hmm
[09:13] <chronofusion1980> now the odd thing is this
[09:13] <chronofusion1980> when i press Control AND m1..it shows up as " Super_L"
[09:13] <chronofusion1980> and works....
[09:13] <chronofusion1980> i'm trying to make it to where it's only requiring one button press to launch it
[09:13] <chronofusion1980> and it doesn't matter WHICH of the 5 M keys..it always shows up as " Super_L"
[09:14] <devjustforfun> people how to know why all my memory is used?
[09:14] <chronofusion1980> sorry. " control_L"  i meant
[09:14] <Beastie> can install ubuntu without running the live cd???
[09:14] <Beastie> powerpc I mean
[09:14] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: there must be more to it then
[09:14] <Beastie> nm duhh I have the docs right here
[09:14] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: what does "sudo showkey" in a terminal do when you press the buttons?
[09:14] <chronofusion1980> (shruggs)...either way..i learned alot from you gordon..seriously...thank you much
[09:14] <chronofusion1980> never tried..one sec please
[09:15] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: well I hope you learned the most important thing
[09:15] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: with Linux (and open-source in general) sometimes you find stuff doesn't work or doesn't quite fit
[09:15] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: but you're allowed to pound seven shades of snot out of it with a big hammer until it *does* fit
[09:16] <chronofusion1980> kb mode was RAW
[09:16] <chronofusion1980> [ if you are trying this under X, it might not work
[09:16] <chronofusion1980> since the X server is also reading /dev/console ]
[09:16] <chronofusion1980> press any key (program terminates 10s after last keypress)...
[09:16] <chronofusion1980> keycode  28 release
[09:16] <FloodBot1> chronofusion1980: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:16] <devjustforfun> but if i use top command i see Mem: Mem:   1834868k total,  1710776k used,   124092k free,
[09:16] <chronofusion1980> ah sorry
[09:16] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: don't worry, it happens ;-)
[09:16] <MonkeyDust> chronofusion1980  remember: swearing and cursing is the only language that *every* system understands
[09:16] <chronofusion1980> lol.  interest explanation
[09:16] <devjustforfun> how to know which programs used all my memoty
[09:16] <devjustforfun> memory*
[09:16] <gordonjcp> devjustforfun: top
[09:17] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: so basically, fire up showkey and mash buttons, see what scan codes they return
[09:17] <chronofusion1980> ah..I thought i was supposed to wait for it to auto show something.sorry
[09:17] <gordonjcp> these scan codes are mapped into a form that other things understand, but it's a fairly involved process
[09:17] <devjustforfun> gordonjcp top command give me that output: Mem:   1834868k total,  1710776k used,   124092k free,
[09:17] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: at this point you really want to be emailing the guy that wrote the script, since presumably he got further with it
[09:18] <chronofusion1980> the m keys still do nothing..but all other regular keys i have set..do what i set them to do
[09:18] <gordonjcp> devjustforfun: if you press M (shift-M) it'll show you a breakdown by memory
[09:18] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: and the M keys don't show scancodes in showkey?
[09:18] <chronofusion1980> gotcha..well time to crash..i'll email him tomorrow..please forgive my cerbral flagulence and d$ckheadness
[09:18] <chronofusion1980> correct..they dont
[09:19] <chronofusion1980> f1 is keycode 59
[09:19] <chronofusion1980> which is what i have chomium set to launch with for now
[09:19] <chronofusion1980> it's also my mute key when combined with FN key
[09:19] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: yeah, talk to the guy that wrote the script
[09:19] <gordonjcp> since he's presumably got the keys doing stuff
[09:20] <gartral> gordonjcp: do you have any experince with razertool?
[09:20] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: and I'm not about to drop nearly 200 quid on a keyboard just to help some random on the internet out
[09:20] <gordonjcp> gartral: no
[09:20] <devjustforfun> gordonjcp thanks
[09:20] <chronofusion1980> well i i think install razertool but can't find it or get it to actually run
[09:20] <chronofusion1980> when i try razertool in terming I get " unable to find copperhead laser mouse
[09:20] <gartral> chronofusion1980: it's specifically for the Copperhead mouse
[09:21] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: good luck with it
[09:21] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: let me know how you get on
[09:21] <chronofusion1980> ah..so no chance for it to work with my gear ?  oh well..had to try
[09:22] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: it probably *will* work but you'll need to ask someone who has actually got one of these keyboards
[09:22] <gartral> chronofusion1980: well.. it hasn't been updated since '07.. but I'm looking at patching it for use with the Lachesis, and possibly other mice if I can collect the magic strings for all the function
[09:22] <chronofusion1980> i will gordon  today gotta sleep..then get the wife a new laptop and take her on a good date..it's been too long and she basically helped payf or this gear..plus 3 tb 7200 rpm hdd to work with my ripping from
[09:22] <gartral> s
[09:22] <gordonjcp> chronofusion1980: drop the guy who wrote the script an email
[09:22] <pelismo> is it possible that i see 91% used disk space, but really I can't find any large file or files that take up all that space?
[09:23] <chronofusion1980> yeap yeaaaap.  either way..I'll check back with you all on here when i can..( normally work late evening shift..so used to pretty much night shift central time)
[09:23] <pelismo> perhaps kernel is measuring wrong? or something taking some virtual space?
[09:23] <chronofusion1980> cheers everyone..time to crash...latas
[09:23] <gordonjcp> pelismo: possibly hidden files?
[09:24] <gordonjcp> pelismo: try "du -h --max-depth=1 /path/to/filesystem
[09:24] <pelismo> gordonjcp: i run du -ah | sort -n -r | head -n 20, all i get is very few 1M files
[09:24] <pelismo> i do have some long-running processes on that server (ubuntu 12.04 server)
[09:25] <rdz> hi all. is there a generic way to remember the window position for any application in 12.04?
[09:25] <gartral> pelismo: try du -ah /tmp
[09:25] <geirha> pelismo: use -m instead of -h
[09:25] <pelismo> gartral: i did that on root
[09:26] <geirha> pelismo: because sort -n will consider 1G smaller than 20M
[09:26] <llutz_>  du -x --max-depth=1 /|sort -n  pelismo dont use -h and sort
[09:27] <pelismo> what does -x do?
[09:27] <geirha> sticks to one filesystem
[09:27] <pelismo> numbers i output in KB?
[09:27] <llutz_> byte
[09:28] <llutz_> err kbyte
[09:28] <pelismo> ah ok that makes sense
[09:28] <geirha> pelismo: -m will show Mebibytes
[09:28] <pelismo> yea i get better results now i think it makes sense
[09:28] <gordonjcp> right folks, first patient arrived
[09:28] <gordonjcp> better go and pretend to do some work
[09:29] <amazingrando> hi everyone.  i have a question about a bash script to run something as sudo on a remote machine
[09:31] <Martin_> amazingrando: just ask
[09:31] <pelismo> ok so i think Ubuntu lies to me
[09:31] <pelismo> i have 1.9GB used. but it reports 91% is used, total root disk is 8GB
[09:32] <amazingrando> here's my script
[09:32] <amazingrando> http://pastebin.com/0Z5HTUQC
[09:32] <pelismo> is there a way to see how much each process reserves on disk?
[09:32] <somsip> pelismo: reserves of what?
[09:33] <pelismo> somsip: no idea.. maybe the kernel thinks there's a ghost file but i can't see it on disk?
[09:33] <gordonjcp> amazingrando: ah you want to control a whole bunch of machines remotely?
[09:33] <fidel_> pelismo: how in detail do you check for used/free space right now?
[09:33] <pelismo> fidel_: usually df -h
[09:33] <pelismo> and memory i do with: free -m
[09:33] <amazingrando> gordonjcp: yeah, i want to ssh into each and trigger a restart
[09:33] <fidel_> "it reports" is kinda vague ...thats why i am asking ;)
[09:33] <llutz_> !info cssh | amazingrando:
[09:33] <pelismo> fidel_: is  there a more accurate way to measure free disk?
[09:33] <llutz_> !info clusterssh | amazingrando:
[09:34] <amazingrando> cool.  did not know that existed
[09:34] <fidel_> pelismo: well i do use the same commands - and i expect them to be corrent
[09:34] <amazingrando> i'll look into clusterssh
[09:34] <gordonjcp> amazingrando: have you looked at puppet, or clusterssh?
[09:34] <gordonjcp> ah
[09:34] <Martin_> amazingrando: it's a good tool you'll see ;)
[09:35] <rigid> ahoy
[09:35] <Martin_> but your question remains  if you'd like to do that without human interaction :/
[09:35] <Martin_> amazingrando:
[09:36] <rigid> does anybody know why there's no recent version of libbabl for ubuntu?
[09:36] <pelismo> so what can be the case where df reports a disk usage that the whole sum of files don't accumulate to?
[09:36] <llutz_> Martin_: cssh -a <action>
[09:36] <gordonjcp> rigid: maybe it's not used for anything
[09:37] <sachael> can anyone explain why people use the silly animal names? I wanted to download a package, but had to got wikipedia to check what's the silly name of the 12.04 I running...
[09:37] <sachael> please ignore spelling mistakes D:
[09:38] <rigid> gordonjcp: i guess asking the maintainer of the package is the right way to get an answer, right?
[09:38] <crizis> those are just code names for the release. official branding is 12.04, like you noticed. you had to look it up - otherwise you won't hit the names
[09:38] <AndChat|251264> Hello!!
[09:38] <Hoj0> the developers just assign code-names using animal names
[09:38] <gordonjcp> rigid: yes, most likely
[09:38] <jrib> sachael: it was a joke that caught on basically
[09:39] <gordonjcp> rigid: wow, yeah, that's what three years old?
[09:39] <amazingrando> can i setup/run clusterssh without x windows?
[09:39] <nwillems> sachael: Regarding spelling mistakes, usually i sign my mails with the following: "Spellcorrection left as an excercise for the reader"
[09:39] <rigid> gordonjcp: thanks
[09:39] <geirha> pelismo: A large file's been unlinked, but a process still has it open, probably. The file will exist until that process closes it.
[09:39] <akis> hi all. i am trying to make 'orage' gives me system notifications in pop-ups (instead of its notifications) and i installed already 'libnotify-dev' under which 'orage' is working but still my ubuntu 12.04 refuses to give me system notifications and gives me orage notificatios althoug i have already choose in alarmas 'system notifications'. Under Xubuntu 12.04 i made it work. But under Ubuntu i failed. Any idea?
[09:39] <rigid> gordonjcp: yes, and there is a _much_ more recent version for gentoo and even more recent git version. The changes are quite heavily
[09:40] <dwakar> I'm looking for a tiniest linux distro ever, to make a rescuedisk, until now puppy linux is on top of my list. do you guys have any suggestions?
[09:41] <MonkeyDust> dwakar  there's tinycore
[09:41] <llutz_> !ot | dwakar
[09:41] <pelismo> geirha: aha! that may be the case. can I detect such a file already open by the process? perhaps list open files? can I also find out its size?
[09:41] <sachael> jrib: where is the joke? I have to go look up silly names, which are not always in my foreigner volabulary, just so I can know what to download for my OS. "Ubuntu HerptyDerpty" tells me nothing about which ubuntu that is, unless I know all the "funny" name combinations
[09:41] <jrib> sachael: you can always use the numbers instead of the names
[09:41] <err-or> dwakar: dsl
[09:41] <sachael> jrib: I can and I do, but people don't! :(
[09:41] <dwakar> oh sorry wrong channel. thanks MonkeyDust and err-or
[09:42] <sachael> hm, there is an opportunity for some "huh you maen ubuntu is not linux?" trolling, but I dunno how well this is take here.
[09:43] <jrib> sachael: you can also just learn the adjective (the first word) in the name.  And I believe policy on the wiki is to refer to versions by name and version
[09:43] <sachael> dang, I can't type today.
[09:44] <g105b> Just ordered my 12.10 merch :)
[09:44] <jrib> sachael: even better, after dapper the releases are in alphabetical order, so you can just learn the LETTER for each release :)
[09:44] <Fudge> hi, anyone using broadcomm drivers successfully with precise
[09:44] <VictorCL> hi, I installed subversion with apt-get install subversion
[09:44] <jrib> Fudge: yes; ask your actual question (to the channel)
[09:44] <VictorCL> and it installed version 1.6 , when the latests one is  1.7, how can I install 1.7 ?
[09:45] <jrib> VictorCL: 1.6 is the latest in the repositories
[09:45] <Fudge> jrib  have two machines that I can not get to connect to my network, another wireless machine not using broadcom drivers conects to my network as does my phone
[09:46] <Fudge> therefore I am looking for possible ideas to why I am prompted for password but it does not connect and then a few minutes later asks me for the password again.
[09:46] <jrib> Fudge: I just run jockey-gtk and install the driver there.  If you need more help, /msg ubottu wireles
[09:46] <jrib> Fudge: I just run jockey-gtk and install the driver there.  If you need more help, /msg ubottu wireless
[09:47] <Fudge> jrib  that is active there and the eth1 shows as up and I can see my network and others but not connect.
[09:47] <DX099> hello, did someone test PulseAudio 2.x on Precise ?
[09:48] <rigid> http://packages.qa.debian.org/b/babl.html suggests that there's a more recent version of babl available for debian. Does anyone know about the mechanisms to get a more recent version into ubuntu? (i'm new to ubuntu)
[09:48] <erealz_>  
[09:48] <rigid> actually the version in ubuntu is the oldest available. It seems that maintainers have changed and the new maintainers only serve debian, not ubuntu
[09:49] <rigid> are debian packages 100% compatible to ubuntu?
[09:49] <crizis> no
[09:49] <jrib> rigid: every release, ubuntu re-syncs with debian.  So that package in debian will eventually hit ubuntu
[09:50] <rigid> jrib: ah, good to know. But it doesn't seem to be the case for babl. I last checked ~1.5 years ago and no change still
[09:52] <tsimpson> rigid: 0.1.10 is in quantal now, so it is synced
[09:52] <jrib> rigid: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/b/babl/babl_0.1.10-1ubuntu1/changelog in 12.10 (released soon)
[09:52] <rigid> ahhh
[09:52] <rigid> tsimpson: jrib: thanks a lot...
[09:59] <metalball> 'lo everyone, got a question not exactly ubuntu-server related, more linux related, about automated backup with scp
[10:00] <metalball> I'm trying to automatically mysqldump database and scp it to remote server
[10:00] <hajime_> metalball: i think you can place it on cron job
[10:00] <DX099> hello, did someone test PulseAudio 2.x on Precise ?
[10:01] <metalball> hajime_: thanx, thats not quite the question
[10:01] <metalball> the question is about passwords / passphrase skipping
[10:01] <metalball> I've generated RSA keys, and copied from SOURCE to DESTINATION server
[10:02] <ryanakca> What flags will force patch to apply a patch, i.e. given the line numbers in the diff, remove all of the lines numbers corresponding to the ones in a diff prefixed by a '-', and insert the '+' lines? (The patch doesn't match up exactly / apply perfectly, but replacing the lines will suffice.
[10:02] <metalball> and applied with cat id_rsa.pub >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[10:02] <uBUXUBu> hi can someone tell me how to make my 64 bit ubuntu 12.04 ....32 bit compatible?
[10:02] <metalball> I even did service ssh restart
[10:03] <metalball> so from "Enter password for user@destination" I've went to "Enter passphrase for key /user/.ssh/id_rsa"
[10:03] <uBUXUBu> i was hoping there would be a 32bit compatibilty pack in my software center,,,,but there is not
[10:03] <metalball> so how can I make scp work automated?
[10:04] <metalball> without prompting any credentials?
[10:04] <DX099> !32bits
[10:05] <Pumpkin-> without EVER prompting for credentials, you will need a passphraseless SSH key. With prompting once (at least once per system boot), you will need to investigate ssh-agent.
[10:06] <Pumpkin-> as with many things, you need to make a security vs usability/reliability tradeoff
[10:07] <DX099> uBUXUBu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit#How_to_Make_32-bit_Applications_Work_on_a_64-bit_Operating_System
[10:07] <metalball> Pumpkin-: so if I won't enter any pass during ssh-keygen - that would be a passphraseless key?
[10:07] <Pumpkin-> yup
[10:07] <uBUXUBu> ive read that it does nothing
[10:08] <uBUXUBu> im beginning ti think i have uninstall 64bit and install 32
[10:09] <uBUXUBu> why isnt there a 32 bit comp pack in software center
[10:09] <DX099> uBUXUBu, sorry, I have a FAQ but it's in french
[10:09] <metalball> Pumpkin-: ok, that's nice... I'm not so worried about security, as i've got iptables to deny ANY traffic except trusted ip range, and if I understand correctly, the authentication is not 2-way,
[10:09] <crizis> uBUXUBu, you can install 32bit packages with sudo apt-get install packagename:i386
[10:10] <Giirt> Guys, I have a problem. The only way for me to connect to the internet is through a Socks5 proxy at 10.0.0.2 . It works well to set firefox preferences to connect through it, can I set it system wide?
[10:10] <DX099> uBUXUBu, you could dig "linux32" command
[10:10] <Pumpkin-> yeah, the authentication is indeed only one way. The security concern is more a case that if someone machine A, they can access machine B without needing any additional credentials. Of course if they have totally owned A, it is likely only a matter of time before they will get to B anyway (keylog a password or whatever).
[10:11] <uBUXUBu> whats that
[10:11] <uBUXUBu> sudo linux32?
[10:11] <DX099> !linux32
[10:11] <uBUXUBu> is that what u mean
[10:12] <uBUXUBu> i got a funny feeling that even if i went to 32bit it wont run my game
[10:12] <dr_willis> 8bit then ;-)
[10:13] <uBUXUBu> ok criziz so that makes me 32 bit compatible?
[10:13] <uBUXUBu> just saw what u wrote
[10:13] <DX099> uBUXUBu, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/dapper/man1/linux32.1.html
[10:14] <ThinkT510> DX099: dapper is long since dead
[10:14] <uBUXUBu> will that make a game run that wont run now?
[10:14] <DX099> oh didn't see taht
[10:14] <DX099> can't say until you try
[10:15] <DX099> it is said to be used like : "$ linux32 my_32bit_program"
[10:16] <crizis> uBUXUBu, depends what you wanna run, exactly? for what you need "32bit compability"
[10:16] <crizis> uBUXUBu, basically if you have some 32bit software, you can install all the :i386 packages it needs and it works
[10:16] <Giirt> Anyone have a clue about the proxy problem?
[10:17] <Giirt> Can I connect system-wide to a Socks v5 proxy
[10:17] <hateball> There's even a meta-package to pull in a bunch of i386 packages
[10:17] <ThinkT510> !info ia32-libs-multiarch | uBUXUBu
[10:17] <uBUXUBu> no idea what all that means
[10:18] <uBUXUBu> i just want to install and play second life on my 64 bit ubuntu
[10:18] <uBUXUBu> 12.04
[10:18] <metalball> Pumpkin-: I think that passwordless passphrase is a better solution for me, thank you very much
[10:19] <uBUXUBu> i did a lot of terminal command yesterday that as usual did jack squat
[10:19] <KM0201> uBUXUBu: doesn't second life have a linux package on their website
[10:19] <uBUXUBu> al the libs multiarch stuff
[10:19] <crizis> uBUXUBu, http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Second-Life-Viewer/Getting-Secondlife-to-run-on-Ubuntu-12-04-lts-64-bit/td-p/1513169/page/2
[10:19] <crizis> see first comment there
[10:19] <uBUXUBu> yes they do and it didnt do jack squat
[10:19] <uBUXUBu> i read all that
[10:20] <DX099> Giirt, if 12.04, in Unity : on top right menu, system settings >> Network >> scroll down in the left list, and you will spot a "proxy servers" option
[10:20] <KM0201> didnt do jack squat?
[10:21] <uBUXUBu> so action ( a guy here) had me intall a million things in terminal to make me have the 32 bit libraries and terminal ran on and on and on and then it all ended up being useless
[10:21] <ardianta> how to change mac address via CLI?
[10:21] <uBUXUBu> but a good try anyway i gotta admit
[10:21] <crizis> uBUXUBu, http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linux_Viewer#64-bit what about that one?
[10:21] <ThinkT510> ardianta: that is mac spoofing, we don't help with that here
[10:21] <DX099> ardianta, man ifconfig or much easier 'macchanger' packaqe
[10:22] <DX099> *package
[10:22] <ardianta> THanks.. i will try..
[10:22] <DX099> mac spoofing isn't necessarily used for law infringements
[10:23] <uBUXUBu> good idea but that thing has so many issues it a mess
[10:23] <varikonniemi> is there available some patches for ubuntu one that encrypts/decrypts the data before send/after receive
[10:23] <uBUXUBu> prolly easier to uninstall this wubi 64 and do wubi 32
[10:24] <uBUXUBu> but i like my 64 bit
[10:24] <uBUXUBu> runs good
[10:25] <uBUXUBu> oh well here goes out with 64 in wit h32 ty all forhelping aloha
[10:26] <varikonniemi> ?
[10:26] <varikonniemi> what are you doing
[10:27] <Richard_Cavell> Folks, I have a parallel port installed on my PC and when I type lspci, it comes up as "Communication controller".  How do I check whether lpt0 exists?
[10:27] <Richard_Cavell> I'm on 12.04
[10:35] <BlueEagle> Richard_Cavell: ls /dev/lpt0
[10:35] <Richard_Cavell> cannot access /dev/lpt0: No such file or directory
[10:36] <g0th> hi
[10:36] <BlueEagle> Richard_Cavell: You may have to load the required module if it is not loaded automatically.
[10:36] <Richard_Cavell> Okay... how do I do that?
[10:36] <MonkeyDust> Richard_Cavell  ls /dev/l*
[10:36] <g0th> whwen I move a window to another desktop it just vannishes and "goes back to the original position"
[10:36] <g0th> I use unity/compiz
[10:36] <Richard_Cavell> MonkeyDust: log, loop0 through loop7 and loop-control
[10:37] <mpathy> Hi there.. I am on the live cd ready to install.. But know I think about the encryption.. dmcrypt is much faster, and isnt it wrong to only encrypt /home.. what about /tmp and when applications write in there?
[10:37] <BlueEagle> Richard_Cavell: I would have started by googling: ubuntu module parallell port
[10:38] <mpathy> On the other hand ecryptfs is easy to use, and dmcyrpt seems to be not good to use without lvm.. which I do not want on a laptop with a small ssd
[10:38] <g0th> mpathy: encryption will slow down things considerably, so you shouldn't encrypt directories that are critical for performance
[10:39] <varikonniemi> mpathy, the home encryption is really basic
[10:39] <BlueEagle> mpathy: I would think that the swap space would be just as vunerable than any tmp directory.
[10:39] <g0th> all "personal" stuff/information/settings should be be in home anyway
[10:39] <varikonniemi> but sufficient for most
[10:39] <qwd> g0th: but that stuff won't stay there...
[10:40] <mpathy> g0th: Therefore I want to choose dmcrypt because my CPU supports AES_NI and it is rather fast in general
[10:40] <g0th> ah ok
[10:40] <varikonniemi> encryption/decryption speed is not an issue on modern cpu
[10:40] <mpathy> BlueEagle: Will not create swap. Have 16GB
[10:40] <g0th> then I suggest you use your own system to encrypt stuff, not the one that comes along with ubnutu standard installation
[10:40] <varikonniemi> even without sse/NI supporty
[10:41] <mpathy> But its really cumbersome to use without lvm
[10:41] <qwd> Ubuntu has full disk encryption, but I think you have to use the alternate disc for that. Correct me if I'm wrong.
[10:41] <varikonniemi> dmcrypt?
[10:41] <mpathy> But who wants lvm on a laptop? With a small ssd
[10:41] <Eagleman> When i use this script: http://pastebin.com/FuAHG3wa in rc.local it says:  /etc/rc.local: 15: /etc/rc.local: Syntax error: "fi" unexpected (expecting "then")   How do i correctly use it?
[10:41] <varikonniemi> who wants lvm? :D
[10:41] <varikonniemi> just one more piece to a puzzle that can break
[10:42] <mpathy> varikonniemi: Every description says use lvm with dmcrypt
[10:42] <varikonniemi> happened to me once on fedora when i installed with "automatic"
[10:42] <g0th> when I move a window to another virtual desktop it vannishes and reapears at the original place
[10:42] <g0th> how can I move a window to another desktop?
[10:42] <varikonniemi> i am not talking about dmcrypt/lvm
[10:42] <varikonniemi> just plain lvm
[10:42] <varikonniemi> i know nothing about dmcrypt
[10:42] <BlueEagle> !enter varikonniemi
[10:42] <ThinkT510> g0th: rightclick and move to
[10:43] <BlueEagle> !enter| varikonniemi
[10:43] <mpathy> varikonniemi: Okay I already thought about only having /boot and / - no extra swap no extra home
[10:43] <Eagleman> That was slow :O
[10:43] <g0th> ThinkT510: isn't it possible with a keybinding?
[10:43] <schnuffle> Eagleman: its if [expression]; then [your code] fi
[10:43] <varikonniemi> i only use encryption on usb sticks with ecryptfs
[10:43] <mpathy> varikonniemi: And on your normal system?
[10:43] <g0th> what about running a virtual system?
[10:44] <dr_willis> Eagleman: issue could be rc.local us using sh not bash. id put those 4 lines in their own properly made bash script
[10:44] <g0th> i.e. start a normal system and run everything on the virtual system
[10:44] <Bustacap> Is there a way to add MSL (mirc scripting language) to gedit's syntax highlighting?
[10:44] <jrib> Eagleman, dr_willis: you need a "then" to go with the "if"
[10:45] <varikonniemi> mpathy, have you checked truecrypt?
[10:45] <qwd> mpathy: just go with whatever the install disc gives you, don't make it more complicated than it has to be.
[10:45] <Eagleman> I just want it to work
[10:45]  * jrib sees schnuffle said it already :x
[10:45] <mpathy> varikonniemi: For a container or what?
[10:45] <varikonniemi> full disk encryption
[10:45] <varikonniemi> it installs itself in bootloader before grub
[10:45] <Eagleman> If /opt/ts3/ts3server.pid exists then rm it, then just start teamspeak normally with:  su teamspeak -c "/opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start"
[10:46] <g0th> ThinkT510: I would like to bind "move to Workspace right" to a key combination (e.g. alt + shift + right)
[10:46] <Eagleman> So how do i do that in rc.local?
[10:47] <ThinkT510> g0th: not sure sorry, i'm not a big compiz user
[10:47] <mpathy> varikonniemi: Hmm I thought also about because then perhaps I could use it also on Win.. But the critical stuff is on the linux parition but better would be all encyrpted
[10:48] <Eagleman> rm /opt/ts3/ts3server.pid
[10:48] <Eagleman> su teamspeak -c "/opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start"
[10:48] <Eagleman> Also works
[10:48] <Eagleman> rc.local is only used on startup so it will do the same
[10:49] <qwd> I might be wrong but I don't think you can encrypt everything with TrueCrypt on Linux.
[10:49] <Eagleman> qwd Truecrpt has a bootloader
[10:52] <Eagleman> Hmm i do need the if statement to check for a file
[10:53] <schnuffle> Eagleman: just add the then before the rm line
[10:54] <suigeneris> I'm getting /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?). /dev/ is mounted
[10:54] <dcarr> irc.perl.org
[10:54] <suigeneris> should I mount /dev/ inside chroot?
[10:54] <Eagleman> schnuffle like this? http://pastebin.com/MAxAxjR4
[10:56] <Eagleman> changed it to before the rm line
[10:56] <Eagleman> ./etc/rc.local: 13: /etc/rc.local: [[: not found
[10:57] <AdvoWork> am i right in thinking netapp nfs isnt a filetype, the netapp is a server or similar and then nfs is the filetype?
[10:57] <varikonniemi> is there a way to enable some encryption for ubuntu one?
[10:58] <mpathy> varikonniemi: Oh.. Also interesting.. +1 :)
[10:59] <varikonniemi> this was discussed back when ubuntu one was introduced, and back then iirc it is encrypted on the server, but not on the client
[10:59] <mpathy> varikonniemi: I just use Ubuntu One and Dropbox for harmless files and itself encrypted files like my KeePass-Database
[10:59] <schnuffle> Eagleman: the then needs to be before the rm line
[11:01] <varikonniemi> mpathy, yeah, but for serious cloud storage you cannot rely on ubuntu to encrypt your data.
[11:01] <schnuffle> Eagleman: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-6.html
[11:01] <YellowGTO> https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/285791_10151303546532868_6326156_n.jpg
[11:02] <ikonia> YellowGTO: any reason you're posting that sort of stuff in a support channel ?
[11:03] <YellowGTO> Sorry didnt mean to interrupt all the support you were giving ikonia
[11:03] <ikonia> YellowGTO: you may want to play in #ubuntu-offtopic rather than the support channel please.
[11:03] <mpathy> varikonniemi: Yes. And how about sync an ecryptfs folder?
[11:04] <n1> i have a problem connecting vodafone mobile connect dongle andrunning sakis3gscript if anyone's familiar with it
[11:04] <Eagleman> schnuffle it is like this now: http://pastebin.com/bZ736bZ0
[11:04] <ikonia> n1: you need to say what the probem is
[11:04] <ikonia> problem
[11:06] <n1> iknia when i run the script in terminal the text editor opens as if i doubleclicked the script icon itself
[11:06] <n1> pardon, ikonia
[11:06] <schnuffle> Eagleman: won'T work the expression is tottaly wrong  if [ -e /opt/ts3/ts3server.pid]; then rm /opt/ts3/ts3server.pid; su teamspeak -c "/opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start"; fi
[11:06] <k1l_> n1: did you make the script executable?
[11:07] <Eagleman> with the ; ?
[11:07] <ikonia> n1: how are you running it
[11:07] <ikonia> n1: give me the exact command you are using
[11:07] <schnuffle> Eagleman:  yes and there'S a space missing before the closing bracket of the expression
[11:07] <k1l_> ikonia: i think there is a chmod +x missing
[11:07] <ikonia> k1l_: we are about to find out
[11:08] <n1> ikonia with this command: +x file.sh
[11:08] <ikonia> n1: that's not going to run the file
[11:08] <ikonia> n1: and that's not a valid ocmmand "+x" is not a valid ocmmand
[11:08] <ikonia> command even
[11:08] <n1>  pardon chmod +x
[11:08] <ikonia> n1: that's not going to run the script
[11:08] <vectorshelve> how can I remove the left side unity panel from leftside of my ubuntu desktop and use the other option of having a task bar on the top?
[11:08] <ikonia> that will just change the permissions on the script
[11:08] <schnuffle> Eagleman: you should update your shell knowledge if you do such tasks more often. just check the link I gave you
[11:09] <n1> ikonia you mean this : cmd chmod +x doesn't execute the script?
[11:09] <ikonia> n1: correct
[11:09] <n1> ikonia tried with ./ as well
[11:09] <ikonia> n1: so if you do ./scriptname what happens
[11:09] <Eagleman> schnuffle i rather dont do it but sometimes i have to, also which space is missing i dont see any
[11:10] <Eagleman> if [ -e /opt/ts3/ts3server.pid]; then rm /opt/ts3/ts3server.pid; su teamspeak -c "/opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start"; fi
[11:10] <schnuffle> Eagleman: if [ -e /opt/ts3/ts3server.pid ]; <- now there'S a space before the bracket which was missing
[11:10] <n1> ikonia when i pres (in the window that pops up) "run", again it opens the script in the txt editor
[11:10] <ElaMiNaTo> Is there a list of supported network cards for ubuntu 12.04 ?
[11:10] <varikonniemi> mpathy, that works, but it needs ecryptfs setup
[11:10] <n1> ikonia. the extension is .sh, forgot to mention
[11:11] <ikonia> n1: press ? what are you talking about
[11:11] <ikonia> n1: 1.) open a terminal. 2.) change directory to where the script is 3.) type ./the_name_of_the_script
[11:11] <Eagleman> aha thanks
[11:12] <Eagleman> Is it fail proof now, i dont want it to get stuck at booting
[11:13] <nicekiwi> how do i get root access from the guest account?
[11:13] <n1> ikonia is it enough if I ./ and than grab/drop the file to the terminal and press enter?
[11:13] <n1> ikonia than the whole path is listed
[11:13] <ikonia> no
[11:13] <ikonia> n1: do exactly what I told you
[11:13] <Eagleman> i use sudo su, but some people think it is wrong
[11:13] <varikonniemi> nicekiwi, wiuth password
[11:13] <n1> ikonia thx will try
[11:13] <varikonniemi> or by booting and going to rescue mode
[11:14] <schnuffle> Eagleman: failsafe? no and why don'T you test it before? what means failsafe in that context. failsafe would be to start teamspeak with a proper init script and setup a monitoring that cares about restart when tramspeak crashes
[11:14] <nicekiwi> varikonniemi, how with password?
[11:14] <nicekiwi> varikonniemi, the SU and SUDO commands do not work
[11:14] <varikonniemi> sudo su
[11:14] <varikonniemi> oh, then i have no clue
[11:15] <nicekiwi> ah..
[11:15] <nicekiwi> awkward..
[11:15] <alakoo> what message does the terminal give you, if any?
[11:15] <nicekiwi> how do I reset my themes? delete some config files somewhere?
[11:15] <nicekiwi> alakoo, me?
[11:15] <ElaMiNaTo> I need a new network card. How do I find out my if the new nwtwork card is compatible with 12.04 ?
[11:16] <alakoo> nicekiwi: ye
[11:16] <varikonniemi> some people say it is sudo su - but idk
[11:16] <ThinkT510> sudo -i
[11:16] <nicekiwi> alakoo, su: Authentication failure
[11:16] <Eagleman> schnuffle thats how how teamspeak was created, if i run it as root everything is fine becuase the ts3.pid file belongs to the root user, but when i run it as teamspeak and my server crashes it is unable to delete the fail when trying to start teamspeak
[11:16] <varikonniemi> yeah you must be normal user
[11:16] <varikonniemi> guest is not on sudoers list
[11:16] <_cronus_> nicekiwi, you can't
[11:16] <nicekiwi> dang it..
[11:16] <nicekiwi> makes perfect sense.. but all the same
[11:17] <Eagleman> There is no init script either, i've used it before but that also failed after some time
[11:17] <schnuffle> Eagleman:  which distribution and which teamspeak version?
[11:17] <Eagleman> ubuntu 12.04 server ts 3
[11:17] <varikonniemi> nicekiwi, try crtl-alt-1
[11:17] <varikonniemi> and login with root pw
[11:17] <Eagleman> its not in the repository's
[11:17] <nicekiwi> varikonniemi, dosnt work either
[11:17] <Eagleman> only version 2 is
[11:18] <varikonniemi> nicekiwi, what goes wrong?
[11:18] <schnuffle> Eagleman: http://www.awerner.homeip.net/doku.php?id=it-artikel:teamspeak-3-server-for-linux-init-start-stop-script-for-debian-ubuntu
[11:18] <_cronus_> nicekiwi, ubuntu won't grant root privileges to guest accounts
[11:18] <varikonniemi> nicekiwi, have you tried to boot into rescue mode?
[11:18] <zetheroo1> how do you change the paper size on a printer?
[11:18] <nicekiwi> varikonniemi, i guess i can do it form my own account. Just when I rebooted my machine I lost all theme/icon/window manager support and I dont know howto fix it. It all works fine in the guest account though
[11:19] <zetheroo1> all I have is 'letter'
[11:19] <varikonniemi> nicekiwi, ah, then just boot recovery and failsafe x graphics
[11:19] <Eagleman> schnuffle thats also starts as root
[11:19] <nicekiwi> varikonniemi, hmm k... brb
[11:20] <Eagleman> "/opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh" is also an sort of init.d file
[11:20] <varikonniemi> first choose recovery, then from menu something like safe mnode for x.org or sumthing
[11:20] <schnuffle> Eagleman: http://forum.teamspeak.com/showthread.php/68553-upstart-init-scripts
[11:20] <Eagleman> http://pastebin.com/ZssHXaHd
[11:20] <varikonniemi> from said menu you can also login as root
[11:21] <varikonniemi> to gain acces to your hdd:s select networking, and then root shell, the networking support will auto mount your system
[11:21] <Eagleman> schnuffle they are all custom made, the only problem i have with the normal start stop file is the .pid file after a crash but thats solved now
[11:22] <nicekiwi> varikonniemi, hmm.. but even when I get access, how do i fix the graphics? the Xserver still runs fine, but i have no window borders or theme or icon theme etc
[11:22] <schnuffle> Eagleman: just some hints. I prefer having init script for upstart/sys v for services that I run on my system and custom made isnt't bad
[11:23] <varikonniemi> create new user
[11:23] <varikonniemi> copy/paste
[11:23] <Eagleman> i know, but the last init.d script i ran also caused me some problems
[11:23] <nicekiwi> varikonniemi, hmm.. i guess..
[11:23] <Eagleman> Also upstart is new and i dont have much knowledge of it
[11:23] <Prajyot> Help Me Please
[11:23] <gordonjcp> !help | Prajyot
[11:24] <l-b> hello. I have a strange problem with ubuntu's byobu... the bottom list of sessions marks the currently active one usually. but for me, it marks all sessions up to the currently active one instead. :(
[11:26] <sasuke> hi guys
[11:27] <sasuke> can anyone tell me how to use beep cmd. when i use "beep" i didnt get any sounds
[11:28] <ThinkT510> sasuke: man beep to the rescue
[11:28] <_cronus_> sasuke, you have to modprobe pcspkr first
[11:30] <sasuke> _cronus_, i did it. i used this cmd "lsmod| grep pcspkr " This is the  o/p               12718  0
[11:30] <Eagleman> What is runlevel  ! ?  stop on runlevel [!2345]
[11:30] <sasuke> _cronus_, i did it. i used this cmd "lsmod| grep pcspkr " This is the  o/p   pcspkr            12718  0
[11:31] <sasuke> ThinkT510, I am new to linux. I read man pages , but i didnt get any thing. what i understood is its giving some options in man pages
[11:32] <varikonniemi> ThinkT510, q@varikonniemi-desktop:~$ man beep
[11:32] <varikonniemi> No manual entry for beep
[11:33] <sasuke> varikonniemi, you need to install beep first
[11:33] <Prajyot> I just installed Windows 7 and had previously Ubuntu 12.04 now whenever i open my desktop it directly boots me into windows
[11:33] <l-b> Prajyot: Windows might not play nice with the master boot record Ubuntu set up
[11:34] <arand> !grub | Prajyot
[11:34] <varikonniemi> i do not seem to have a pc speaker installed
[11:35] <varikonniemi> Prajyot, you need to reinstall grub
[11:35] <varikonniemi> windows just plain overwrites MBR
[11:35] <Prajyot> how
[11:35] <varikonniemi> google
[11:35] <Pici> !google | varikonniemi
[11:35] <sasuke> varikonniemi, try this cmd "modprobe pcspkr " and "lsmod | grep pcspkr".
[11:35] <markinfo> Hi. I have downloaded wine package (wine1.5-i386) from https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ppa/+packages   but there is inside dependence on wine1.5:any (= 1.5.15-0ubuntu1)   I can not find that package.
[11:35] <varikonniemi> http://www.av8n.com/computer/htm/grub-reinstall.htm first google result AKA im feeling lucky
[11:36] <rekenerd> Prajyot: use EasyBCD software of windows
[11:36] <rekenerd> Prajyot: http://www.ehow.com/how_4900122_use-easybcd-windows-xp.html
[11:36] <Prajyot> i used it but didn't helped me
[11:36] <arand> Prajyot: Follow first link of ubottu's message I gave you above.
[11:36] <Pici> Prajyot: This would be the proper Ubuntu related help page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[11:37] <Prajyot> okay
[11:37] <arand> i.e. ^ the link Pici just gave :)
[11:37] <black_puppydog> okay, for the lack of a better channel for this:
[11:37] <black_puppydog>  I just read about the "new" send/receive feature of btrfs and asked myself if there are any apps in development to use this feature for fast backups?
[11:37] <varikonniemi> sasuke, it said: pcspkr                 12702  0
[11:37] <Prajyot> i don't have a ubuntu cd
[11:38] <Prajyot> i just installed it from wubi
[11:39] <sasuke> varikonniemi, yes. isn't it the way to check
[11:39] <arand> black_puppydog: #btrfs might know more (I have no idea).
[11:39] <varikonniemi> Prajyot, there is "the terminal way"
[11:39] <varikonniemi> sasuke, i have no idea :D just tried the "beep" command and heard nothing so i assumed i have no spkr
[11:39] <Pici> Prajyot: so, you installed Ubuntu within windows and then reinstalled Windows?
[11:40] <Prajyot> i had Windows XP first
[11:40] <varikonniemi> that is a nomination for darwin awards
[11:40] <Prajyot> i just deleted it and yesterday i installed windows 7
[11:41] <arand> Prajyot: Then you have deleted Ubuntu as well.
[11:41] <varikonniemi> if it was on same partition
[11:41] <rekenerd> arand: not necessary, there are some ways.
[11:41] <Prajyot> no it was running fine before i installed windows 7 and i have ubuntu files in C: drive
[11:42] <sasuke> varikonniemi, i heard that it will make beep sound when a process is completed. Even i am not sure how it works :D ... Working on that :)
[11:42] <varikonniemi> tried beep -f 500 should beep at 500hz
[11:43] <arand> Prajyot: But w7 was installed on C: right? If so, that is *likely* to have deleted it...
[11:43] <varikonniemi> Prajyot, the win7 installer overwrote the XP bootloader, and did not care that there was one extra menu entry...
[11:44] <varikonniemi> by knowing what the menu entry is wubi is making you could manually add it and boot
[11:44] <Prajyot> yes but i deleted win xp files from ubuntu only and ubuntu was working great from a month and from yesterday its not working
[11:44] <Prajyot> What should i do now
[11:45] <varikonniemi> sudden random failure means you did something to make it happen or your hw is damaged
[11:46] <rekenerd> Prajyot: your problem is that after installing win7, you are not able to boot in ubuntu. Is it so?
[11:46] <Prajyot> yes
[11:46] <varikonniemi> rekenerd, he said he was able to boot but suddenly then not
[11:46] <Dragonster82> Hey what's up all!
[11:46] <Dragonster82> Sup all!
[11:47] <varikonniemi> so everything i said can be ignored, i only wish you said it worked in the beginning, in the beginnging :D
[11:47] <rekenerd> Prajyot: please clarify, you are not able to boot in ubuntu OR it restarts after booting in?
[11:47] <Prajyot> not able to boot
[11:48] <ItISShowDOwn>  /join #dutch
[11:48] <rekenerd> so you've to use some windows software to make boot entry for ubuntu.
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> itilious  type /join #ubuntu-nl
[11:49] <rekenerd> Prajyot: it is perfectly fine. Your ubuntu is safe, only problem is that its boot entry is lost.
[11:50] <Prajyot> what should i do now?
[11:50] <rekenerd> Prajyot: Even I installed win7 over ubuntu 12.04 on my frnd's laptop.
[11:51] <Prajyot> now.....
[11:51] <sasuke> can anyone tell me how to use beep cmd. when i use "beep" i didnt get any sounds
[11:51] <rekenerd> Prajyot: I used easyBCD only to make boot entry, even I succeeded after some tries.
[11:52] <Prajyot> thanks
[11:52] <OerHeks> !grub
[11:52] <varikonniemi> Prajyot, you need someone who knows how wubi isntalls ubuntu, and get the correct boot parameter for your windows nt loader
[11:52] <vitimiti> (·_·)/
[11:53] <varikonniemi> yes, paid suport is always available, good luck in finding such specialised support from community.
[11:54] <_cronus_> sasuke, just running beep is enough for me. It beeps
[11:54] <_cronus_> sasuke, the only thing I did was to load pcspkr, but as you said you already have...
[11:55] <varikonniemi> i have had trivial problems and got no answer on this channel, so don't give up :)
[11:55] <Dragonster82> What problem and what help do you need?
[11:55] <Dragonster82> I might be of help.
[11:55] <zetheroo> how do I add the A4 page size to my printer properties?
[11:56] <Dragonster82> I believe you can google that..
[11:56] <varikonniemi> vitimiti has a problem of finding the wubi boot entry for windows
[11:56] <Dragonster82> Oh?
[11:56] <vitimiti> what?
[11:56] <rekenerd> http://askubuntu.com/questions/139966/how-can-i-add-an-entry-for-ubuntu-to-the-windows-7-boot-menu
[11:56] <varikonniemi> for ubuntu*
[11:56] <rekenerd> 1st answer
[11:56] <Dragonster82> Well there you go
[11:56] <Dragonster82> xD
[11:56] <sasuke> _cronus: so it wont work on my laptop
[11:56] <vitimiti> varikonniemi, i don't know what that is... sorry
[11:57] <_cronus_> sasuke, maybe check if it is managed through alsamixer
[11:58] <Dragonster82> Hey just a question, who does C++ programming here?
[11:58] <_cronus_> sasuke, but if you cant find a way to make it work you could use mplayer with some mp3
[11:58] <varikonniemi> rekenerd, you sure that works with wubi?
[11:59] <rekenerd> varikonniemi: I think it should. Tried with wubi a time ago
[11:59] <varikonniemi> vitimiti, then try installing easy bcd
[11:59] <_cronus_> sasuke, i can't think of a reason it shouldn't work, but still i cant think of one why it doesn't
[12:00] <vitimiti> varikonniemi, i don't know what you are talking about, sincerely, my ubuntu works properly and i don't use windows, i don't know what is going on
[12:00] <sasuke> _cronus_, ok thanks
[12:01] <varikonniemi> lol, sorry, it was Prajyot who had the problem, dont know why i catched your name and started refering to it
[12:01] <vitimiti> lol
[12:02] <rekenerd> varikonniemi, vitimiti : I think, this is solution for Prajyot.
[12:02] <varikonniemi> yes :D
[12:04] <Dragonster82> Hey do anybody know how to fix minecraft's black screen problem?
[12:04] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[12:05] <Dragonster82> Hey blueskaj
[12:05] <Dragonster82> Do you know how to fix minecraft's black screen problem?
[12:05] <Sidewinder> Mornin' BluesKaj
[12:06] <Dragonster82> It seems to be having trouble to initialize the glx
[12:07] <BluesKaj> Hey Dragonster82 , Sidewinder
[12:07] <Dragonster82> Hey blueskaj
[12:07] <Dragonster82> I need help with minecraft
[12:07] <Dragonster82> It has something to do with ubuntu,
[12:08] <drag0nius> how would i recover few files recently (last 15 min) deleted?
[12:08] <BluesKaj> Dragonster82, I'm not much of a gamer
[12:08] <jrib> !recover | drag0nius
[12:10] <Dragonster82> Blues
[12:10] <Dragonster82> But it has something to do with the GLX or something
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> Dragonster82  over 250 people in #minecraft, better ask there
[12:11] <BluesKaj> ok Dragonster82 , well describe your graphics card , driver m and what you've done so far
[12:15] <dyd> guys when i turn on ubuntu i get this error: unable to mount device... press s to skip
[12:16] <valnour> dyd: have you made changes to your fstab?
[12:16] <dr_willis> what device dyd?
[12:16] <valnour> you may have a network device or removable drive listed there that isn't connected
[12:16] <dyd> valnour, no, I installed ntfs-config and set it to mount another partition
[12:16] <dyd> but then i removed it
[12:16] <valnour> that's it
[12:16] <dyd> and formatted the partition
[12:16] <AdvoWork> is there anything faster than using nfs mount for backing up purposes?
[12:17] <dr_willis> !fstab
[12:17] <dyd> dr_willis, thanks
[12:17] <valnour> dyd: I suspect something is lingering in fstab
[12:17] <suigeneris> Error, some other host already uses address 5.9.44.105. <--- why am I getting this?
[12:17] <dyd> valnour, thank you, i'll check it
[12:18] <awestroke> suigeneris: that is impossible to know without any kind of context or explanation what you are trying to accomplish and what commands you are running
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> suigeneris  what are you doing?
[12:19] <suigeneris> MonkeyDust: I have a dedicated server and am creating VPS's
[12:19] <MonkeyDust> suigeneris  there's also #ubuntu-server
[12:19] <dyd> have a nice day
[12:25] <_cronus_> AdvoWork, what do you mean by faster?
[12:29] <AdvoWork> _cronus_, just looking for some kind of fast method for mounting a location and backing up to it
[12:31] <Dragonster82> Okay
[12:31] <Dragonster82> I need help guys, Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0".
[12:31] <Dragonster82> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[12:32] <Dragonster82> Anybody here?
[12:33] <wols> Dragonster82: pastebin your Xorg.0.log
[12:33] <[twisti]> why doesnt ubuntu use mysqld_safe to start mysql ?
[12:36] <MonkeyDust> [twisti]  it's in the repos, you can install it
[12:36] <[twisti]> even when installed, its still not what ubuntu starts
[12:36] <[twisti]> in fact it comes with mysql-commons i think
[12:37] <[twisti]> but the upstart job calls mysqld directly
[12:37] <[twisti]> and it seems to not be enough to just change it in the upstart file
[12:40] <suigeneris> update-grub2  /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?). <--- why am I getting this? I'm in chroot
[12:40] <rumpe1> suigeneris, have you mounted /dev to the chroot?
[12:41] <Omar> Hello
[12:41] <suigeneris> rumpe1: tried that too. I got mount -o bind /dev/  mount: special device udev does not exist
[12:42] <rumpe1> suigeneris, from within the chroot or from outside?
[12:42] <Omar> I have an issue with TMG auth with ubuntu any solutions ???
[12:42] <wols> suigeneris: you need to do that before your chroot and you need to run the full command, not just part
[12:42] <auronandace> !rootirc | ifk
[12:43] <wols> suigeneris: mount --bind /dev/ /mnt/dev
[12:44] <suigeneris> wols: I still get the same error
[12:44] <ceezer> what's the recommended practice for recompiling the ubuntu kernel with degbug options enabled?
[12:44] <ceezer> s/degbug/debug
[12:44] <kyrix> talking about chroot. is there "something" like chroot that allows me fake a mount, say, /opt/fakemount, that only is visible/writable for one process?
[12:44] <wols> ceezer: what debug options?
[12:45] <Omar> I need ur argent support
[12:45] <ant_> kyrix, why isn't chroot enough?
[12:45] <kyrix> ant_, well, i don't want to change the root.
[12:45] <hateball> !details | Omar
[12:46] <kyrix> ant_, more like change this directory /opt/directory to point to /opt/thisdirectory for this process only.
[12:46] <ant_> the only thing I can think of is mounting with permissions for a specific user. Nothing per-process comes to mind other than selinux
[12:46] <iceroot> kyrix: only with chroot or apparmor i guess
[12:46] <ant_> selinux and apparmor were made to restrict access per-process
[12:46] <kyrix> iceroot, so i would have to chroot, then mount the rest of the system, except that folder that I want to fake.
[12:47] <ant_> kyrix, probably mount to a new point, then chroot the process you want to start
[12:47] <iceroot> kyrix: chroot the process, not the complete system
[12:47] <wols> suigeneris: http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repairrestorereinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd/
[12:49] <ceezer> wols: KDBG
[12:50] <ceezer> wols: sorry, KGDB
[12:51] <wols> ceezer: usually one uses kernel-package and I dounno how kgdb is activated (won't you need a kernel patch?) but you can est your own gcc options of course when you run it
[12:51] <Omar> @ubottu i am using ubuntu 12.04  and when i try to install the updates i got error with proxy auth even after applying the internet annoumyous still fail to download the updates with the same error i think if there any kind if TMG client that i can install it may solve my problem ??
[12:51] <ceezer> wols: yes, it'll require a recompile, i was just wondering what best practices are for rolling your own kernel.
[12:52] <wols> ceezer: as I said: kernel package. which gives you shiny nice .deb of your special kernel which works with all the normal stuff like grub. update-initramfs, etc
[12:52] <auronandace> !mainline
[12:52] <wols> Omar: ubottu is a bot. what is a TMG client?
[12:52] <wols> auronandace: won't help him. mainline kernels have no kgdb
[12:52] <auronandace> wols: ahh, thanks
[12:53] <Omar> I need to update my os throug proxy what is the requriment ??
[12:55] <suigeneris> wols: grub-install /dev/sda1  rm: cannot remove `/boot/grub/915resolution.mod': Read-only file system
[12:56] <Eagleman> How di i run all entries from my crontab right away?
[12:56] <Eagleman> instead of changing the timers
[12:56] <wols> suigeneris: the error is pretty obvious no? you need to remount / or /boot to rw from ro before you chroot
[12:56] <ifk> how do i configure say command
[12:56] <ifk> how do i configure say command
[12:56] <ifk> jfd
[12:57] <suigeneris> wols: every line from mount output says rw
[12:59] <Eagleman> How do i run all entries from my crontab in one time and instant?
[13:06] <nibbier> Eagleman: set system time long enough into the future?
[13:06] <dr_willis> does seem counter to what one normally does with cron. ;)
[13:07] <Eagleman> nibbier no its not that
[13:07] <nibbier> Eagleman: just crontab -l| awk 'foo' | xargs bash
[13:07] <Eagleman> i want every line that is in my crontab to execute NOW
[13:08] <Eagleman> just execute everything in crontab with a command
[13:08] <Omar> So no one can help me ?
[13:09] <Pici> Eagleman: Theres no one command that can do that.
[13:09] <Eagleman> ok
[13:09] <dr_willis> Omar:  all ive ever seen done is enter the proxy info in network manager, or the synaptic settings and itt works
[13:09] <wols> Omar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto#Setting_up_apt-get_to_use_a_http-proxy
[13:11] <Omar> Yes dr_willis its working with every thing but failed to update
[13:12] <wols> Omar: use apt-get to update. what is the error message(s)?
[13:13] <Omar> Failed to auth with poxcy server
[13:13] <pauser> hello, im still having the slow cursor problem. alway when i activate the wireless card it becomes slow just like the old slow pcs. any idea what could be the problem  ?
[13:13] <awestroke> pork serverz
[13:14] <Eagleman> ls: reading directory .: Input/output error
[13:15] <Eagleman> Where can i see how and why my usb disk crashed?
[13:15] <dr_willis> hd issue, or fs issue, dmesg may show more info Eagleman
[13:15] <BenJ2310> need some help installing #ubuntu on an android "wifi and tv cloud stick" any takers?
[13:16] <pauser> Eagleman: /var/crash/ mabey
[13:17] <Eagleman> dr_willis Oct 10 23:07 dmesg
[13:18] <dr_willis> hmm?
[13:18] <Eagleman> nothing in the dmesg file, it did not changed sincen oct 10
[13:18] <varikonniemi> why do i have a chinese language pack installed and it cannot be removed via gnome-language?
[13:18] <dr_willis> dmesg command normallly spits out several hundred lines...
[13:18] <Eagleman> syslog shows more info
[13:19] <Eagleman> http://pastebin.com/nLdQjZm0
[13:21] <wols> Eagleman: is sde a WD harddisk?
[13:22] <Eagleman> i think so
[13:22] <Eagleman> ./dev/sdd1       459G  853M  435G   1% /media/backups/wd500gb
[13:22] <Eagleman> ./dev/sdb1       2.7T  409G  2.2T  16% /media/harddisks/media
[13:22] <Eagleman> ./dev/sde1       459G  853M  435G   1% /media/backups/wd500gb
[13:22] <Eagleman> its mounted double :S
[13:22] <hualet> hello everybody, how can i install gst-launch for ubuntu?
[13:23] <Eagleman> Ok that is solved, now i have no idea why it crashed
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> hualet  if it's in the repos, use apt-get or the software center
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> hualet  it's called rygel-gst-launch
[13:24] <hualet> MonkeyDust, ok , i'll try
[13:24] <wols> MonkeyDust: how do you know?
[13:24] <MonkeyDust> !info rygel-gst-launch
[13:24] <wols> MonkeyDust: it's not
[13:24] <MonkeyDust> oops, i'm in 12.10, my mistake
[13:25] <dr_willis> ;) cutting edge
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> it may not be in 12.04
[13:25] <wols> MonkeyDust: read the package description more carefully
[13:25] <wols> MonkeyDust: it is
[13:25] <wols> hualet: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=gst-launch&mode=exactfilename&suite=precise&arch=any
[13:26] <hualet> wols, ok, let me check
[13:26] <Eagleman> gzip: stdout: Read-only file system
[13:26] <Eagleman> But it just wrotes config files to it :S
[13:27] <Nickeeh> I have a package that is rather unhelpful, and I'd like to create a "debug" version of that package and install that (just the package but with debugging symbols). How can I do this?
[13:27] <varikonniemi> http://imgur.com/4Anql i have this chinese language shown in the list, yet it is not installed/uninstallable, what to do?
[13:28] <Eagleman> Oct 15 15:25:58 eagleman kernel: [404242.744035] usb 2-1.3: USB disconnect, device number 5
[13:28] <Eagleman> Oct 15 15:25:58 eagleman kernel: [404242.751257] sd 6:0:0:0: [sde] Unhandled error code
[13:28] <Eagleman> Why is this happening?
[13:28] <hualet> wols, thank you ,it works :-)
[13:28] <wols> Nickeeh: yes
[13:29] <DarsVaeda> hi, there is a method to have ipsec in the native vpn app, how do I add this again?
[13:30] <mattia_ubuntu> tell me how to configure xchat for irc channel for ubuntu - it?
[13:30] <dalton2345> xchat is configured already for ubuntu servers
[13:32] <Eagleman> How did my UUID changed?
[13:34] <Eagleman> Now my drive disconnected :S, i am pretty sure it is still attached
[13:34] <Eagleman>  lshw -C disk returns nothing
[13:34] <_cronus_> DarsVaeda, install network-manager-strongswan
[13:35] <DarsVaeda> thx I'll try
[13:36] <Eagleman> http://pastebin.com/EW31V40J
[13:36] <dalton2345> i'm having problem with my drive also but only in windows which is very weird
[13:38] <_cronus_> Eagleman, maybe your drive is failing
[13:38] <Eagleman> last smart status said it has passed the test
[13:39] <Eagleman> but i have no idea what is going on now, its not even attached, but i am sure it is
[13:40] <BluesKaj> Eagleman, did you use sudo ?
[13:40] <Eagleman> I am already root
[13:40] <BluesKaj> Eagleman, what sudo fdisk -l , tell you?>
[13:41] <Eagleman> Why should i use sudo?
[13:41] <Eagleman> nothing about my usb drive
[13:41] <BluesKaj> ok try lsusb
[13:41] <deb> hi how can i watch silverlight contents?
[13:42] <Eagleman> http://pastebin.com/biJA2WWj
[13:42] <Eagleman> !silverlight
[13:42] <_cronus_> Eagleman, can you try the disk on another machine?
[13:42] <Eagleman> i am remote at the moment
[13:43] <deb> Eagleman, already done, it doesnt work
[13:43] <_cronus_> Eagleman, sorry, missed that...
[13:43] <dr_willis> deb if they are using any type of 'drm' most likely it wont work
[13:43] <Eagleman> havent told it so, nothing to apologize
[13:44] <varikonniemi> ok, so i have troubleshooted so far that locale -a gives all the wanted localesa, plus the two chinese ones
[13:44] <deb> but before i could watch it thanks to moonlight
[13:44] <varikonniemi> how to uninstall chinese locales via command line since they do not show up in locale window?
[13:45] <Eagleman> So what more can i do from remote?
[13:46] <deb> dr_willis, and why does it take ages to load the firefox addons page???
[13:46] <g0th> hi
[13:46] <g0th> how can I bind the "move to workspace right" entry in the menu to a keybinding? e.g. ctrl + shift + right?
[13:46] <g0th> I have set something similar in keybindings in system settings, but it doesn't work
[13:47] <g0th> when I move a window to the right it does so (I can see how the window moves) but at the last moment (when the window "arrives") it vannishes and goes back to where it started
[13:47] <Eagleman> reboot didnt help either,
[13:47] <g0th> I use compiz/unity
[13:47] <bkc_> deb: not going to be the "don't use that, use this" kinda guy... but firefox has so many problems that the loading time of the addon page is the least of it's problems :)
[13:47] <g0th> If I click on the menu entry it works
[13:48] <_cronus_> Eagleman, does lsusb show the device?
[13:48] <g0th> but that's too annoying/slow
[13:48] <Eagleman> no
[13:48] <Eagleman> So what could be the issue?
[13:48] <deb> bkc_, not going to be but u were... and no solution fore me anyway...
[13:49] <_cronus_> Eagleman, neither as root?
[13:49] <Eagleman> i am root
[13:49] <bkc_> deb: sorry about that, I ain't going to be* ;)
[13:49] <dalton2345> i never made silverlight working on ubuntu
[13:49] <Eagleman> root@eagleman:/home/robin# lsusb
[13:49] <tgary> DaemonicApathy: I installed ccsm and found the option, but compiz doesn't seems to be running. How can I start it?/leave
[13:49] <dalton2345> moonlight never worked
[13:50] <OerHeks> deb it is known that moonlight doesn't work anymore, for moths now, if you find a solution, please let us know.
[13:50] <OerHeks> *months
[13:50] <deb> ah ok
[13:50] <deb> OerHeks, sorry, i didnt know that...
[13:50] <_cronus_> Eagleman, the output of lsusb is empty?
[13:50] <Eagleman> no
[13:51] <Eagleman> http://pastebin.com/Gg5dCKLd
[13:51] <deb> OerHeks, and ive being lookin up for a solution for days... but it doesnt mention it anywhere
[13:51] <Eagleman> deb run a virtual windows system and watch it in there
[13:51] <deb> OerHeks, so you guys are officially saying for the moment we are on hiatus about the silverlight issue?
[13:51] <Eagleman> or ask the website to serve flash content
[13:52] <rigid> i still have some trouble with packaging & libbabl. I installed http://packages.debian.org/sid/libbabl-dev + deps using "dpkg --install <filename>" and my debian/control file contains "Build-Depends: [...], libbabl-dev (>= 0.1.4)" and "Depends: [...], libbabl (>= 0.1.4)" but still i get "dpkg-shlibdeps: error: no dependency information found for /usr/lib/libbabl-0.1.so.0"
[13:52] <deb> Eagleman, i thought about that, would it work with WINE and silverlight regular plug-in?
[13:52] <rigid> does anyone know what could be wrong?
[13:52] <Eagleman> i dont know about winte deb
[13:53] <Eagleman> _cronus_ have you seen it?
[13:53] <OerHeks> deb yes, silverlight/moonlight is old news.
[13:54] <dr_willis> netflix uses silverlight dont it? that  wont work in wine last i looked
[13:54] <deb> OerHeks, ok thanks... is there an official ubuntu blog with topics updated daily or weekly? i'd like to read what they say about it there...?
[13:54] <louiemat> can anyone tell me if Adult Lens can be installed on ubuntu 12.10 and work?
[13:55] <_cronus_> Eagleman, it seems like hardware fault to me, i'm afraid
[13:56] <_cronus_> Eagleman, it either somehow someone unplugged it, or the usb controller of the disk is faulty
[13:56] <SeHoon> halo.
[13:57] <SeHoon> hey  buddy.
[13:57] <_cronus_> Eagleman, judging from the write error you sent earlier, probably for latter
[13:57] <OerHeks> deb, the last tim i tried, was this solution >  http://blog.mbirgin.com/?c=page&ID=326&t=howtoinstallmoonlightsilverlightonubuntu   but it doesn't work, i cannot find docs about moonlight stopping support for FF/Chrome
[13:58] <Eagleman> latter?
[13:58] <davidcalle> louiemat, it will work in about ten minutes
[13:58] <_cronus_> Eagleman, the usb controller of the disk isn't working properly
[13:58] <bamboz> !list
[13:59] <_cronus_> Eagleman, that's the reason I asked you to plug it in another machine earlier
[13:59] <louiemat> davidcalle what do you mean ?
[13:59] <davidcalle> louiemat, I've just asked Launchpad to build a Quantal version.
[14:00] <Eagleman> _cronus_ ok will do it at home then
[14:03] <louiemat> davidcalle - I'm a newbe can you explain what you mean by Launchpad building a quantal version
[14:04] <_cronus_> Eagleman, btw, anachron -fnd may help with cron jobs
[14:05] <simplew> i have installed kde in ubuntu and now the synaptic window appears with TOO BIG fonts, how can this be fixed?
[14:07] <Hawkmoon> deb, have you tried the old stable version 2.4?
[14:09] <michealPW> Empathy is weird :|
[14:10] <davidcalle> louiemat, oh sorry about the jargon, anyway, the answer to your question is yes, I just needed to make it available for Quantal users (I've done it right now).
[14:11] <bamboz> ciao
[14:11] <bamboz> list
[14:11] <bamboz> !list
[14:13] <dr_willis> no list here...
[14:14] <louiemat> davidcalle thank you for you quick response
[14:15] <davidcalle> louiemat, no problem!
[14:15] <LarrysDesk> Hi.  I'm building a new Ubuntu 12 box today to replace a v10 box.  On the old box, the hard drive has a /boot partition that's formatted as ext2.  Does v12's /boot partition sstill have to be ext2, or can it be ext4?
[14:16] <bazhang> LarrysDesk, it can be ext4
[14:16] <Hawkmoon> it can be ext4 as far as i'm aware
[14:16] <kd7jwc> you can amke it either but it doesnt need the journaling of ext4
[14:16] <bazhang> just not btrfs iirc
[14:16] <kd7jwc> ext2 is efficient for it
[14:17] <LarrysDesk> bazhang: Thanks.  Is that 'official' now?  Iirc -- and it's been awhile -- the old official advice was to use ext2 or it would eat puppies ...
[14:18] <Hawkmoon> why do you need ext4? 2 is great. there is nothing wrong with 2
[14:18] <bazhang> LarrysDesk, ext4 is fine, I've used it on /boot for several years now
[14:19] <Hawkmoon> yeah i've been using ext4 since 2009 and havent had a problem with it beeing on /boot
[14:19] <bazhang> LarrysDesk, the point I was making, and this may no longer hold true, was that previously one could not use btrfs on /boot . that could well be passed now, though
[14:22] <louiemat> davidcalle - could I just try to see if it woks as of yet - or will it be built
[14:27] <hejiann> Is there a command just like the "yum list" in Fedora?
[14:27] <wols> what does yum list do?
[14:28] <hejiann> wols: "yum list" will list all the packages with name,version,install status
[14:28] <michealPW> Argh Empathy is weird. How do I disable these Join/Leave notifications?
[14:28] <michealPW> It's spamming me with join/leave notifications :|
[14:29] <wols> hejiann: all installed packages or all available (in repos) packages?
[14:29] <hejiann> wols: yes
[14:29] <louiemat> FloodBot1 - can u please tell me how to display Lens that are activated in ubuntu 12.10
[14:29] <wols> hejiann: this is not a question you can answer with "yes" or "no". notice the "or" in there
[14:29] <wols> all installed (and formerly installed) packages are shown with dpkg -l
[14:30] <bazhang> louiemat, #ubuntu+1 for 12.10
[14:30] <tdeuling> hi @ all, i've running a linux mint 12 and it doesn't boot anymore.. :( i can reach the recovery shell, but how can i identify what's wrong with my system?  in the morning all works fine, then my internet-connection or something else was slow-down, and i restartet my computer - and now i doesn't start anymore..
[14:30] <louiemat> bzhang - yes
[14:30] <bazhang> tdeuling, get mintsupport then
[14:30] <hejiann> wols: all packages in repository, and will provide a status if the package is installed or not
[14:30] <wols> !mint
[14:30] <bazhang> !mintsupport | tdeuling
[14:31] <tdeuling> bazhang: there are currently no guys they can help me
[14:31] <bazhang> tdeuling, it's not supported here.
[14:31] <force> i can help you
[14:31] <wols> hejiann: does not exist afaik
[14:31] <tdeuling> there's a ubuntu under the linx mint ;)
[14:31] <bazhang> force, take it to PM if you wish. its offtopic here
[14:31] <wols> tdeuling: you can help him, but you can't help him here
[14:34] <LarrysDesk> bazhang: THanks for clearing that up.  APpreciated.
[14:34] <sebas_> I have dual monitor and my system notifications are appearing on my second screen.. is it possible to have the notifications on my main screen??
[14:35] <louiemat> bazhang - how was that command again for displaying installed Lens on 12.10
[14:35] <bazhang> louiemat, lets take this to #ubuntu+1
[14:35] <louiemat> ok I understand
[14:37] <NaZZaX> is there a way via cli to specify another server to do apt-update from ?
[14:38] <lotuspsychje> NaZZaX:ssh?
[14:38] <simplew> NaZZaX: you can change it using synaptic i think
[14:39] <dr_willis> NaZZaX:  or edit your sources.list files
[14:39] <sebas_> Who knows how do I change settings of notifications?
[14:39] <dr_willis> since updates dont ceom from just one server
[14:39] <NaZZaX> everytime i pull updates i am getting corruption
[14:39] <NaZZaX> i am thinking its a front end WAAS box in my lab
[14:40] <NaZZaX> wots another server i can use ?
[14:40] <NaZZaX> like a list soomewhere?
[14:41] <BluesKaj> NaZZaX, did you remove the ppas in your /etc/apt/sources.list.d before upgrading
[14:41] <NaZZaX> no its a fresh install
[14:41] <TJ-> NaZZaX: Is it hitting a transparent HTTP proxy on the LAN? What and how specifically is being corrupted?
[14:41] <BluesKaj> you can change the server in synaptic or software center'
[14:42] <NaZZaX> so my lab routes go from a 10 gig line to routers in Cisco's network direct pipe to a NAT/PAT on the outside
[14:42] <NaZZaX> i think we have WAAS boxes that captured someone doing an update and it didnt complete correctly
[14:43] <wols> NaZZaX: you can edit your /etc/apt/sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[14:43] <NaZZaX> so when i run apt-get update i get bunch of stuff then it says HASH mismatch.
[14:43] <michealPW_> That's a lot better :)
[14:43] <NaZZaX> i should point out that this is in a VM on vmware (long story)
[14:44] <wols> NaZZaX: what is the exact error message?
[14:44] <NaZZaX> lemme run apt-get update again
[14:44] <NaZZaX> i will get you one
[14:44] <bazhang> !paste | NaZZaX
[14:44] <NaZZaX> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-backports/multiverse/source/Sources  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]
[14:45] <NaZZaX> theres one error
[14:45] <NaZZaX> the other errors look like this
[14:45] <NaZZaX> W: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise-backports_universe_binary-i386_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[14:45] <michealPW_> NaZZaX: Try changing your download server?
[14:45] <NaZZaX> well thats what i want to do micheal
[14:45] <NaZZaX> Soren built an APT server i think within my lab
[14:45] <dr_willis> is there even anything in backports that you need nazz?
[14:45] <NaZZaX> I'm just wondering if i should try to point to it
[14:46] <NaZZaX> dr willis not sure.
[14:46] <NaZZaX> my whole team is at openstack summit so I am trying to get a build-os node running to install openstack folsom
[14:46] <dr_willis> NaZZaX:  those are just warnings, so shouldent break anything. you could remove the backports repos
[14:46] <sebas_> oke nm people its a bug again in ubuntu I cannot set anything by default.. shame on ubuntu. gonna try other versions of buntus
[14:47] <mirak> you got to do something for MTP phones, ubuntu 12.04 is unusable for transfering datas
[14:47] <NaZZaX> im the n00b in charge of breaking documentation and testing how "easy" it is but i cannot get past apt-get update
[14:47] <dr_willis> thats jusy a warning on update. not a critical failure
[14:47] <NaZZaX> should i even be getting those errors ?
[14:47] <bazhang> file a bug then mirak
[14:48] <NaZZaX> or should it be clean
[14:48] <dr_willis> if thats the only 2 errors you get
[14:48] <bazhang> !bugs | mirak
[14:48] <wols> NaZZaX: how often do you need to be told that these are not errors? W is not an E
[14:48] <NaZZaX> no its a bunch I didnt want to flood the channel
[14:48] <wols> !paste | NaZZaX
[14:48] <dr_willis> NaZZaX:  backports is normally not enabled by default i belive
[14:48] <NaZZaX> backport ?
[14:48] <dr_willis> !backports
[14:48] <mirak> bazhang: is it even needed to fill a bug for that ? do you really believe no Ubuntu devs ever noticed that ?
[14:49] <NaZZaX> Well this isnt just *my* issue wols its about 15-20 people on my team that flipped out seeing this
[14:49] <forest> When Ubuntu gives the message "*** System restart required ***" is there anyway to see a list of what it needs to do on system restart, before you do?
[14:49] <NaZZaX> its been a recent occurance
[14:49] <bazhang> mirak, if you wish to troubleshoot we can. but saying that something is hopelessly broken wont get any support
[14:49] <gordonjcp> forest: it doesn't need to do anything except restart
[14:50] <gordonjcp> forest: that's usually because the kernel has been updated
[14:50] <bazhang> forest, thats normally for kernel updates
[14:50] <dr_willis> NaZZaX:  could be an issue on the backports server also
[14:50] <mirak> bazhang: troobleshot what ? it just doesn't work at all
[14:50] <wols> NaZZaX: congrats. then you are not the only clueless one who can't read in your organization. are you really earning your money with IT?
[14:50] <merlin2049er> hi, I'd like to get a revodrive for my pc.  Does it work with ubuntu?
[14:50] <mirak> bazhang: a user needs to plug the device and show it pop up in nautilus, that's it
[14:50] <forest> thanks gordonjcp
[14:50] <michealPW_> Hrmm
[14:50] <wols> !doesn't work
[14:50] <bazhang> mirak, it certainly does for some. how about listing what exact device does not work, and we can go from there
[14:51] <NaZZaX> dr_willis and Wols I just want to make sure my network is not having a problem 3 of my guys spent the entire weekend trying to figure this out and were quite pissed off because we went through a lot of trouble to make sure our lab did not have any PROXY in its path
[14:51] <NaZZaX> !backports
[14:51] <wols> NaZZaX: I strongly suggest you hire a linux admin. you need one
[14:51] <mirak> bazhang: a Nexus 7, that's a really uncomon device. Anyway Windows manage to open any device, so what's the issue then ?
[14:52] <merlin2049er> will ubuntu recognize the revodrive?
[14:52] <bazhang> mirak, I will check the listed bugs if you wait a moment
[14:52] <dalton2345> whats a revodrive
[14:52] <merlin2049er> ssd on a card with raid 0
[14:52] <truexfan81> in xubuntu 12.04 what is the display manager called? i need to start the service
[14:52] <wols> dalton2345: a SSD connected via PCIe
[14:52] <dalton2345> ty wols
[14:53] <mirak> bazhang: i mean, they waste time with unity that we don't need, and they miss what is really needed, it doesn't makes sens
[14:53] <NaZZaX> I am also building another lab for development within Cisco UCS B250 M2's (384 GB RAM per blade 2 socket 6 core)
[14:53] <wols> truexfan81: lightdm afaik
[14:53] <NaZZaX> so you can see I want to make sure its nothing in our network path that causes this....
[14:53] <bazhang> mirak, did you need help, or just wish to complain. I will help if you decide the former
[14:53] <merlin2049er> sup
[14:53] <truexfan81> wols: thats it, thanks :)
[14:54] <NaZZaX> wols or dr_willis can i do a apt-get update > update.txt to dump to file so that Soren can look at it ?
[14:54] <merlin2049er> if I were to download the windows installer
[14:54] <truexfan81> apparently x won't start when the hdd is full lol
[14:54] <bazhang> NaZZaX, simply disable the backports repo
[14:55] <gordonjcp> truexfan81: lots of weird stuff happens when the hard disk is full ;-)
[14:55] <merlin2049er> and install the bootloader on the revodrive, but ubuntu would be on a regular ssd drive
[14:55] <merlin2049er> would that work?
[14:55] <NaZZaX> hmmmm
[14:55] <NaZZaX> bazhang ok i will read up on it
[14:55] <gordonjcp> merlin2049er: possibly, but Linux is still going to have problems reading the revodrive because it needs a special driver
[14:55] <NaZZaX> thanks for the help so far sorry for being annoying :) still learning here
[14:55] <gordonjcp> merlin2049er: and OCZ aren't interested in supporting it on Linux, by the looks of things
[14:55] <michealPW_> Why that gzip:/var/lib etc etc. ?
[14:56] <michealPW_> How does that location work in a sources.list ?
[14:56] <NaZZaX> bazhang you said to disable backports?
[14:57] <bazhang> NaZZaX, in the package manager, yes
[14:57] <NaZZaX> !backports  <<<  only talks about enabling
[14:57] <truexfan81> gordonjcp: apparently dualbooting on a 250GB drive was a bad idea lol
[14:57] <wols> NaZZaX: no. apt-get prints errors to stderr. so use 2>
[14:57] <merlin2049er> ok, how about creating a hardware raid 0 with 2 ssd drives?
[14:57]  * NaZZaX pets ubottu good lil bot
[14:57] <NaZZaX> merlin2049er why would you do raid 0
[14:57] <gordonjcp> truexfan81: hm?
[14:57] <NaZZaX> err wait yes do raid 0
[14:57] <merlin2049er> faster?
[14:58] <NaZZaX> i thought you said raid 1 for a sec
[14:58] <merlin2049er> i'm getting a gigabyte z77 ud3h
[14:58] <NaZZaX> well when it comes to raid its funny many people get it wrong
[14:58] <truexfan81> gordonjcp: dualbooting 12.04 and wheezy, had to shrink the 12.04 partition
[14:58] <michealPW_> You can directly edit your sources.list (/etc/apt/sources.list) and put a comment (#) infront of your backports line. Then run apt-get update again. You also have a gzip:/var/lib in your sources.list which throws a warning. I'm guessing that's your LOCAL repository?
[14:58] <mirak> bazhang: i want to know if it's fixed in Quantal, so i might try the quantal libmtp
[14:58]  * NaZZaX has been an expert in storage and san for the last 10+ years
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> would ubuntu be safe for new jacksbot trojan? http://www.intego.com/mac-security-blog/new-multiplatform-backdoor-jacksbot-discovered/
[14:59] <NaZZaX> if you can help it you want to do Raid 0 + 1
[14:59] <NaZZaX> not to be confused with raid 10
[14:59] <michealPW_> So.. It's saying it cannot connect to Backports repo and skips it; Then it can't access your local apt repository and skips that. They're just Warnings, like everyone said and you can basically ignore them. Have they EVER worked?
[14:59] <dalton2345> NaZZaX, i have a question about a server, is it possible to install terminal and vlc in it?
[15:00] <NaZZaX> dalton2345 i would think so i am not an expert on unbuntu
[15:00] <NaZZaX> just on raid and storage
[15:00] <NaZZaX> and storage acceleration
[15:00] <dalton2345> ah ok :)
[15:00] <riktking> hi, im having issues with my VNC access
[15:00] <NaZZaX> michealPW_ yes
[15:00] <riktking> cant seem to get in
[15:01] <NaZZaX> michealPW_ usually apt-get update runs without errors
[15:01] <ajayyada> can somebody help me with wine application
[15:01] <michealPW_> How come NaZZaX's sources.list has a gzip:/var/lib/... why wouldn't it instead use file:/var/lib/...
[15:01] <michealPW_> ?
[15:01] <bazhang> ajayyada, check the appdb
[15:01] <michealPW_> Anyone know?
[15:01] <bazhang> !appdb | ajayyada
[15:01] <bazhang> ajayyada, app help in #winehq
[15:01] <NaZZaX> michealPW_ i am not sure if your helping me with my issue or if you have something of your own ?
[15:01] <wols> riktking: need more info
[15:01] <michealPW_> NaZZaX: Then if it used to work but just suddenly does not, I wouldn't touch anything. Leave it for your sysadmin :P
[15:02] <NaZZaX> i am the sysadmin :P
[15:02] <ajayyada> thank you
[15:02] <NaZZaX> I've just not seen this before
[15:02] <michealPW_> Well how are you the sysadmin asking questions about APT ?!?
[15:02] <michealPW_> hjehe
[15:02] <NaZZaX> because I am diagnosing a lab network issue
[15:02] <NaZZaX> inside my lab we get errors
[15:03] <NaZZaX> outside the lab we do not
[15:03] <riktking> wols: i thought i had it enabled but cannot remote in
[15:03] <wols> riktking: can you access the system any other way?
[15:03] <NaZZaX> the network outside the lab does use proxies and WSA and WAAS
[15:03] <riktking> wols: its not running in htop
[15:03] <NaZZaX> whereas inside my lab its a ACL redirected route directly to the internet (40 gig pipe)
[15:04] <riktking> wols: cani enable from command line
[15:04] <NaZZaX> so I am trying to see if something changed and /or why it works outside the lab but not inside
[15:04] <slipshot> anyone get ddclient 3.8.1 working with freedns?
[15:04] <michealPW> There's a problem with your labs network then, NaZZaX. That doesn't explain the warning on your local apt repository, though, the one in your sources.list accessed by gzip:/, unless that's trying to access a NETWORKED storage device, in which case that would amke sense.
[15:05] <wols> riktking: depends on which vnc server you use. usually yes
[15:05] <NaZZaX> nop no networked storage devices.
[15:05] <NaZZaX> simply logging in doing apt-get update
[15:05] <michealPW> I'm not sure, then. I've never seen gzip:/ in sources.list heehee!
[15:05] <dr_willis> michealPW:  neither have i.
[15:05] <NaZZaX> I think somewhere north of my lab is a caching server that has a corrupt cache
[15:06] <riktking> wols: its the standard one viniciusarq
[15:06] <michealPW> Could be. The HASH mismatch is a cache error, I think.
[15:06] <riktking> vino sorry
[15:06] <slipshot> anyone get ddclient 3.8.1 working at all?
[15:06] <gordonjcp> truexfan81: ah, okay
[15:06] <nixfreak> Hello, I want to add JDK_HOME and JAVA_HOME to my path for all users
[15:06] <nixfreak> do I use /etc/bash.bashrc to add them
[15:06] <NaZZaX> thats why i was hoping you would tell me i can just do apt-get update --server apt.ctocllab.cisco.com  and have it point to my local apt
[15:07] <nixfreak> or use ~/.bashrc
[15:07] <NaZZaX> since Soren built a apt server in the lab
[15:08] <jrib> nixfreak: /etc/profile* is more appropriate imo
[15:08] <dr_willis> update does not get updates from just 1 server. each setver listed in the sources.list has its own 'updates' it downloads
[15:08] <nixfreak> for each user ?
[15:08] <NaZZaX> yes i noticed
[15:09] <nixfreak> jrib -> /etc/profile for each user or is that system wide
[15:09] <NaZZaX> oo i could copy the file do a mass replace?
[15:09] <jrib> nixfreak: /etc/profile is system-wide
[15:09] <dr_willis> NaZZaX:  what file?
[15:09] <jrib> nixfreak: you can also just drop it in /etc/profile.d/ if you want to keep things tidy
[15:10] <riktking> wols: is there a way to set it up from the commandline?
[15:10] <merlin2049er> what;s new?
[15:10] <NaZZaX> see it was also having trouble running this command prior to apt-get
[15:10] <jrib> nixfreak: there's also /etc/environment
[15:10] <nixfreak> so I need export JDK_HOME=/opt/ and export JAVA_HOME=/opt/
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> !pdf > lotuspsychje
[15:11] <nixfreak> then export PATH right
[15:11] <NaZZaX> this command was failing wols  apt-key adv --keyserver 'pgpkeys.mit.edu' --recv-keys 'E8CC67053ED3B199'
[15:11] <nixfreak> yeah I thought about using /etc/environment
[15:11] <michealPW> Shouldn't that be apt-key add ?
[15:11] <jrib> nixfreak: sure
[15:11] <bazhang> !gpgerr | NaZZaX
[15:12] <michealPW> nvm
[15:12] <NaZZaX> we determined that was because the keys server in the lab i had to specify hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com:80
[15:12] <nixfreak> kk thanks
[15:12] <NaZZaX> and that worked
[15:12] <jrib> nixfreak: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables suggests using /etc/environment instead of /etc/profile .  I'm not sure why :/
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> whats a lightweight pps reader for xubuntu?
[15:12] <vagzero> ola galera !!
[15:12] <bazhang> lotuspsychje, whats pps
[15:12] <vagzero> tem alguem do Rj ai ???
[15:12] <nixfreak> jrib - used to archlinux and debian - so many places you can put a PATH in ubuntu
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> bazhang:i mean whats a good lightweight pps reader
[15:13] <bazhang> !br | vagzero
[15:13] <nixfreak> kind of confusing but yes I did read the ubuntu env link you sent before I came here
[15:13] <alecb> I'm in an xmonad session but I'm still managing to connect to wifi -- does anyone know what program's running that's facilitating this?
[15:13] <bazhang> lotuspsychje, yes, and I am asking what a pps is
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> bazhang:powerpoint viewer
[15:13] <michealPW> NaZZaX: My advice is open your /etc/apt/sources.list with a text-editor. Find those two backports lines that caused the error and comment them out. Add below them a proper definition for the Backports repository...
[15:14] <michealPW> That's essentialy your problem. Double-checking that gzip:/ it's only a local copy of the backports.. Both can be commented out and replaced with a proper backports source
[15:14] <NaZZaX>  oo hang on
[15:14] <dr_willis> if you really need backports..
[15:14] <michealPW> You're running 12.04, NaZZaX?
[15:15] <NaZZaX> let me try what bazhang
[15:15] <vagzero> alguem do rj ??
[15:15] <NaZZaX> 12.04 LTS
[15:15] <NaZZaX> i think...
[15:15] <michealPW> Right, so, do you want me to make a pastebin thing for you to follow?
[15:16] <NaZZaX> gimme a second fellas i think bazhang may be on to something
[15:16] <crizis> NaZZaX, cat /etc/issue :)
[15:16] <NaZZaX> well i could do rm -rf < /dev/null but i seriously doubt that would fix my issue
[15:16]  * NaZZaX smiles a lil * nix humor on monday morning
[15:17] <vagzero> ola !!!
[15:17] <NaZZaX> lemme check this onnne sec
[15:18] <lotuspsychje> !br | vagzero
[15:18] <Bolvaron> Hi, yesterday i tried the daily-build of ubuntu 12.10 on a live stick, and after rebooting it didnt find a kernel to boot the system, did i do anything wrong?
[15:19] <wols> yes. you installed it probably wrongly on the usb stick
[15:19] <bazhang> Bolvaron, #ubuntu+1 for that please
[15:19] <Bolvaron> i installed it via penusbinstaller and wanted to use it as live-stick
[15:19] <michealPW> NaZZaX: In a terminal type sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[15:19] <bazhang> !12.10 | Bolvaron
[15:20] <michealPW> NaZZaX: Then type cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit
[15:20] <michealPW> Then copy/psate the link.
[15:20] <Bolvaron> thanks bazhang
[15:20] <kelvinella> hi when i try gcc abc.cpp, i got the error gcc: error trying to exec 'cc1plus': execvp: No such file or directory
[15:21] <kelvinella> whats wrong?
[15:21] <michealPW> NaZZaX: Then I can see your sources.list and tell you exactly which lines to comment out and which ones to add below them (To keep your Backports working)
[15:21] <NaZZaX> not currently installed
[15:21] <NaZZaX> lemme guess
[15:21] <NaZZaX> install pastebinit
[15:21] <michealPW> Right. First you have to install pastebinit, which is what sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[15:21] <michealPW> Will do ^
[15:22] <michealPW> 2 steps.. Step 1) sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[15:22] <NaZZaX> yes I know the install command :) quite well
[15:22] <michealPW> Step 2) cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit
[15:22] <Kartagis> what's the default LiveCD password for ssh'ing in?
[15:22] <bobsapp> part
[15:22] <NaZZaX> did i mention i hate sudo :P and his friend guido
[15:22] <michealPW> Step 3): Use SHIFT+Ctrl+C to copy the link pastebinit returns to you in the terminal. Then paste to me so I can see it :P
[15:22] <michealPW> sudo rox. It's the first thing I setup on Fedora heehee!
[15:23] <michealPW> Fedora's all about the su -c 'somethingAwesome'
[15:23] <michealPW> HEEHEE!
[15:23] <NaZZaX> sudo -H bash is easier
[15:23] <jrib> Kartagis: ssh isn't running by default.  The default password is blank
[15:23] <jrib> NaZZaX: sudo -i
[15:23] <NaZZaX> esp if i am doing a lot of sudo commands :P
[15:23] <NaZZaX> well I'll see your -i and raise ya
[15:24] <NaZZaX> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1281258/
[15:24] <michealPW> I think there's benefits to both su -c and sudo. With sudo I can set it up so my wife can install games from Ubuntu Software Center and simply type in her own password.. Rather than my hard root password.
[15:24] <Kartagis> jrib: that completely erases the chance of ssh'ing in for me
[15:24] <michealPW> Then again, who wants their wives installing things anyways? hahaha!
[15:24] <michealPW> ZING!
[15:24] <Kartagis> :S
[15:24] <jrib> Kartagis: well, you can set a password and install ssh :x
[15:25] <michealPW> NaZZaX: K let me check it out haha didn't even notice your link 'till just now :P
[15:25] <Kartagis> jrib: I installed ssh, then forgot to set up a password
[15:25] <viniciusarq> .
[15:25] <NaZZaX> michealPW my "wives" are fat ascii's one weighs 2435 lbs
[15:26] <jrib> Kartagis: and now you're away from the computer?
[15:26] <NaZZaX> the other weighs 3606 lbs
[15:26] <Kartagis> jrib: yes
[15:26] <Kartagis> jrib: no luck huh?
[15:26] <michealPW> Oh wait, I think you've got a sources.d directory with extra .list files?
[15:26] <bazhang> !ot | NaZZaX
[15:26] <michealPW> That sources.list you piped to pastebinit looks perfect..
[15:26] <jrib> Kartagis: look for a 0-day :P
[15:26] <Kartagis> 0-day?
[15:26] <NaZZaX> ok michealPW
[15:26] <slipshot> anyone in here use opendns?
[15:27] <islandmonkey> !ask | slipshot
[15:27] <NaZZaX> so its something in the lab thats causing a cache hit issue ya think ?
[15:27] <michealPW> Try (In a terminal) ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[15:27] <Kartagis> jrib: what's 0-day?
[15:27] <michealPW> In that directory are files ending in .list which will be added to your sources.list file and used as the APT list. So, I'm thinking those broken backports links are in a file inside the sources.list.d directory
[15:27] <NaZZaX> just so you know i am ssh'ed into this box not on a console of any kind
[15:27] <jrib> Kartagis: an exploit that hasn't been patched
[15:27] <bazhang> Kartagis, an exploit
[15:27] <deb>  #ubuntu-it
[15:28] <jrib> Kartagis: (it was a bad joke)
[15:28] <michealPW> You can just rename them to whatever.list.bak to temporarily remove them and then run apt-get update again
[15:28] <BluesKaj> slipshot, yes ..what's your question about opendns
[15:28] <jrib> Kartagis: maybe you have a friend with physical access to the machine?
[15:29] <michealPW> Usually the files inside sources.list.d are named nicely.. So I have a caffeine.list, a grub-customizer.list, an opera.list etc. Check the files in that directory. I'm sure one of them is the culprit :P
[15:30] <NaZZaX> michealPW the netsplit is scrolling the screen can i just message you direct
[15:31] <dr_willis> glad my irc client filters partd/joins ;)
[15:31] <michealPW> NaZZaX: cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list | pastebinit
[15:31] <NaZZaX> normally i do
[15:31] <michealPW> NaZZaX: That should do it :P
[15:31] <michealPW> hehe dr_willis. Empathy doesn't... Empathy's the worse IRC client ever!
[15:31] <michealPW> LOL why oh why did they decide to adopt Empathy as the primary Ubuntu client :\
[15:31] <michealPW> Insanity!
[15:32] <dr_willis> i thought empathy had plugins for that
[15:32] <Kartagis> jrib: let me ask you this. I installed Xen yesterday, editing grub  and all. I rebooted, and logged into Xen kernel happily and worked from there. however, I found today that the computer was unresponsive and rebooted it. the computer booted, and after a while it went to sleep. this happened for few times more, everytime forcing me to reboot. is thşs likely to happen?
[15:32] <michealPW> Iunno, haevn't checked the plugins. Empathy without plugins makes me want to punch puppies.
[15:32] <NaZZaX> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1281285/
[15:32] <NaZZaX> it looks like its just two lines michealPW
[15:32] <michealPW> Everythuing about it is really akward and silly.
[15:32] <jrib> Kartagis: I don't know much about that
[15:32] <philinux> michealPW: Try xchat
[15:32] <BluesKaj> empathy and telepathy are awful irc clients , guess they're ok for IM etc but not irc
[15:33] <philinux> xchat is very good
[15:33] <Kartagis> michealPW: try kvirc
[15:33] <Tack> I'm trying to change the hostname of an existing raid1 array in Ubuntu 12.04 (mdadm 3.2.5) and any attempt seems to be ignored.  I'm assembling a stopped array with "mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 --update=homehost --homehost=newhost /dev/vdc" and it assembles fine, but mdadm --detail still shows the old hostname (Name: oldhost:0).  It's just a single disk raid1 right now as I'm experimenting -- not sure if that
[15:33] <Tack>  could be relevant.
[15:33] <michealPW> philinux: Yea, I use XChat primarily. I just thought I'd try out Empathy since it's so well integrated in Ubuntu 12
[15:33] <NaZZaX> normally i use an eggdrop as a squatter and client but i got lazy and installed mirc on this work laptop
[15:33] <NaZZaX> michealPW http://paste.ubuntu.com/1281285/
[15:33] <michealPW> NaZZaX: Hrmm! Those aren't it, either. Well now I'm confused!
[15:33] <michealPW> Iunno where those broken backports definitions are comming from! :|
[15:33] <michealPW> That's weird LOL
[15:33] <NaZZaX> how do you do a show ver
[15:34] <michealPW> I'm not an APT expert, but all I know of is sources.list and sources.list.d :\
[15:34] <NaZZaX> it used to be uname  something
[15:34] <michealPW> Yea uname can tell you what you want to know, I think. Try man uname
[15:34] <michealPW> uname -a
[15:34] <michealPW> Gives you all the info uname has
[15:35] <NaZZaX> hmmmm
[15:35] <michealPW> Well sorry NaZZaX. I guess your problem goes over my head :(
[15:35] <NaZZaX> is installing the precise image the same as 12.04 LTS server ?
[15:36] <dr_willis> what 'image' ?
[15:36] <michealPW> I thought it would be simple to just comment out those links that aren't working and replace with working ones... But your sources.list has the working ones and I can't find the broken links haha
[15:36] <michealPW> Precise is the code-name for 12.04. 12.04 is Ubuntu Precise Pangolin.
[15:36] <jrib> NaZZaX: depends on what you mean by "precise image"
[15:36] <NaZZaX> oh
[15:36] <michealPW> Although I think "Ubuntu Server" is different from my "Ubuntu Desktop" :\
[15:36] <NaZZaX> my team downloaded it they must have renamed it
[15:36] <NaZZaX> I just wanted to make sure i dont have some corrupt ISO
[15:37] <michealPW> No, I don't think that's your problem.
[15:37] <jrib> !md5sums | NaZZaX
[15:37] <michealPW> I'm going to go take a smoke break. Good luck with your woes, NaZZaX!
[15:38] <michealPW> Try using Google to search for APT HASH mismatch
[15:38] <michealPW> To read more about that specific exception and why exactly APT would throw it.
[15:38] <NaZZaX> well my one ISO is from 3/1and its 713,004 the other one more recent is 700,716 and now i see a ubuntu 12-04.1 which is 673,068 KB
[15:39] <NaZZaX> theres many oo bright idea
[15:39] <NaZZaX> why don't i do apt-get update | pastebinit
[15:40] <TheLordOfTime> !google michealPW
[15:40] <TheLordOfTime> oops
[15:40] <TheLordOfTime> um...
[15:40] <TheLordOfTime> !google | michealPW
[15:40] <raviteja> hello
[15:41] <michealPW> NaZZaX: Abstract.. There's no "problem". APT isn't "broken", per se. The way it works is when you type "apt-get update" you're telling APT to go through every single line in the sources.list and all .list files in sources.list.d and will try to connect to each server and ask the server for a list of updates. It's just warning you that 2 lines referenced servers that could not be connected to, for whatever reason.
[15:42] <NaZZaX> michealPW //paste.ubuntu.com/1281299/  output of my apt-get update
[15:43] <NaZZaX> its actually saying error 404 Not Found
[15:44] <dr_willis> line 118 in that past IS finding the backports repos is seems
[15:45] <michealPW> Yea, that's the proper backports in his sources.list. Iunno where the broken oens are even coming from
[15:45] <dr_willis> now what ip 98.191.######  is.. may be the ussue
[15:45] <michealPW> He piped the entire sources.list.d directory as well as sources.list and I can't see them LOL.
[15:46] <NaZZaX> theres some other errors on the console here
[15:46] <dr_willis> check /etc/hosts perhaps?
[15:46] <michealPW> Oh I never thought of that
[15:46] <michealPW> That would be funny
[15:46] <NaZZaX> so heres a super stupid question why would inside my lab be different than outside.... DNS ?
[15:47] <jrib> well that ip that 404s does seem to be a valid (and reachable from here) repository
[15:47] <NaZZaX> my dns servers inside my lab are cache forwarders that point to Cisco Main DNS
[15:47] <fusion27> I'm kind of a noob sys admin, been programming for a long time, but I'm the only that thinks linux is cool here at work so I "earned" the task of setting up a Java server for a new client.  I stuck it on AWS with Ubuntu server, which is pretty sweet.  Got them set up with Tomcat 7, MySQL, Git and Java 6.  They now want a mail server, is there a de-facto best one to set up?  I've never set up a mail server before, but how tough can
[15:47] <jrib> NaZZaX: can you reach 91.189.91.26 ?
[15:48] <NaZZaX> jrib just like a wget on the cli to 91.189.91.26 ?
[15:48] <jrib> NaZZaX: sure
[15:48] <n1> ikonia executed the script (sakis3g which is the user interface to connect the dongles) and as it connects, there's a message an the end "unable to determine path"
[15:49] <NaZZaX> jrib yes i get a successful wget of index.html
[15:49] <jrib> NaZZaX: that's pretty weird.  You don't have some sort of proxy setup, right?
[15:49] <NaZZaX> no thats the point of my lab the routes are supposed to bypass proxy
[15:50] <n1> anyone using vodafone mobile connect in ubuntu?
[15:50] <NaZZaX> jrib is there a way to set one in the cli just to see if its any different?
[15:50] <jrib> !proxy
[15:50] <jrib> *cough*
[15:50] <rTfact> reset
[15:50] <rTfact> clear
[15:51] <NaZZaX> *giggle*
[15:51] <NaZZaX> isnt it an export command
[15:51] <jrib> NaZZaX: apparently apt-get respects the http_proxy variable.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto
[15:52] <jrib> NaZZaX: can you hit http://91.189.91.26/ubuntu/dists/precise-backports/main/source/Sources.gz
[15:52] <jrib> NaZZaX: and .bz2 as well since I'm not sure what it actually uses
[15:53] <NaZZaX> Yes it downloaded both
[15:53] <NaZZaX> on a wget
[15:53] <jrib> dr_willis, michealPW: no idea on my part
[15:54] <NaZZaX> funky lab ?
[15:54] <NaZZaX> hmmm
[15:55] <jrib> NaZZaX: you can try a mirror to see if something different happens I guess...
[15:56] <NaZZaX> how would one select a different mirror
[15:56] <Gallomimia> !cloak
[15:56] <dr_willis> id be curious if a live cd would experienced the same issues
[15:57] <jrib> NaZZaX: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change us.archive.ubuntu.com.  Yeah, live cd would provide a useful data point
[15:57] <Gallomimia> has 12/10 hit yet?
[15:57] <NaZZaX> what can i change it to?
[15:58] <dr_willis> archive.ubuntu.com would be a random server? i forget
[15:58] <NaZZaX> eu.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[15:58] <DJones> Gallomimia: No, not due until the 18th
[15:58] <NaZZaX> dr_willis i will try it
[15:58] <NaZZaX> I am also willing to do a live CD install if it helps its good to document issues like this
[15:58] <Gallomimia> cool thanks
[15:59] <dr_willis> a live cd is a 'must have' tool. ;)
[16:00] <dr_willis> testing it on a different machine in the lab may lead to some clues also
[16:00] <NaZZaX> they all use the same 10 gig route out
[16:01] <PannCaKKES> Hello
[16:01] <dr_willis> with 2 machines you can compare at the same time
[16:01] <NaZZaX> FUNKY
[16:01] <reikalusikka> every time I try to install postgresql I get an error: http://pastebin.com/n6FiwisE
[16:01] <NaZZaX> guess what
[16:02] <NaZZaX> I removed the us.
[16:02] <NaZZaX> now it ran clean
[16:02] <NaZZaX> ZERO errors
[16:02] <jrib> NaZZaX: maybe the admin of that other repository dislikes your lab
[16:02] <reikalusikka> this problem is also covered in this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1405239 but how do I install the package from synaptic manager when I'm using command line
[16:02] <dalton2345> congrats NaZZaX :)
[16:03] <dr_willis> or he set it up to cached us.ubuntu.co  and not ubuntu.com
[16:03] <NaZZaX> jrib you don't understand how pisssed my team was trying to get openstack folsom running last minute when all they had to do was change 3 lil things in that file.
[16:04] <jrib> dr_willis: probably more likely :P
[16:04] <dr_willis> i dont see how having backports enabled or not would keep them from installing openstack...
[16:04] <dr_willis> unless it was in backports
[16:04] <NaZZaX> not that
[16:04] <NaZZaX> they just dont like errors
[16:04] <NaZZaX> on anything...ever. period.
[16:04] <dr_willis> they were warnings...
[16:04] <NaZZaX> hey dont shoot the messenger lol
[16:05] <deb> hi guys, mplayer won't let me open a video cuz of missing text/html editor plugin???? any idea?
[16:05] <NaZZaX> just telling ya what they found
[16:05] <NaZZaX> but glad to know its not my lab
[16:05] <michealPW> On a somewhat sidenote... Could NaZZaX just have configured APT to supress those Warnings and only show Errors?
[16:05] <dr_willis> sounds lke they just found somthing to complain about. ;)
[16:05] <bazhang> deb is that a apple video trailer
[16:05] <michealPW> HEEHEE! That way his co-workers would not see simple Warnings and freak out? :P
[16:05] <luist> hey guys… i need help with this: http://pastie.org/5062803   i installed ubuntu 10.04 and cant install qtcreator
[16:05] <NaZZaX> nah
[16:05] <michealPW> Are you not in the U.S, NaZZaX?
[16:06] <deb> bazhang, try opening it http://www.rai.tv/dl/RaiTV/dirette/PublishingBlock-64203784-70f7-4b53-9d21-b14693850195.html?channel=Rai%201&refresh_ce
[16:06] <NaZZaX> ya gotta know these guys :)
[16:06] <NaZZaX> michealPW I am. My labs are in SJC
[16:06] <michealPW> NaZZaX: Weird that the us mirror is unreachable to you but the eu one is?? :\
[16:06] <michealPW> LOL
[16:06] <NaZZaX> i am in charge of the openstack Opensource Development on cisco platform
[16:06] <NaZZaX> i own the labs
[16:06] <bazhang> NaZZaX, michealPW lets get back on topic please
[16:07] <NaZZaX> indeed.
[16:07] <NaZZaX> the answer seems to be us.archive.ubuntu.com at least from my lab
[16:07] <dr_willis> NaZZaX:  whats funny.. i doubt if there are any packages in backports right now anyway.. since 12.10 is not out yet
[16:07] <bazhang> deb, its not available due to country code restrictions
[16:07] <michealPW> Weird. Well congrats on isolating and fixing the problem, NaZZaX ;)
[16:07] <dr_willis> which may be why the local cache server is confused
[16:08] <NaZZaX> So I guess the question now is what if one of you uses that archive set do you get errors
[16:08] <jasonmsp> hey all.  I'm looking for an MS Access equivalent in Ubuntu.  Anyone have any preferred options?
[16:08] <bazhang> !equivalents | jasonmsp
[16:08] <NaZZaX> can one of you run an apt-get update and see if you get an error with that server said ?
[16:08] <NaZZaX> server set*
[16:09] <LinuxLev> Is there a way to stop Rhythembox from pop-up notifications on song change?  Saw nothing in the settings.
[16:09] <NaZZaX> then the next question after that is if us.archive.ubuntu.com does have a problem how do ou fix it ?
[16:09] <dr_willis> NaZZaX:   ping  the us. server and the non us server a few times.. see if they are the same ip. ;)
[16:10] <NaZZaX> dr_willis if thats the case that confirms i have a WAAS (net Caching) between me and the internet
[16:11] <jasonmsp> bazhang:  thanks. I can do the google search.  Was looking for human input.
[16:11] <NaZZaX> OOOO
[16:11] <bazhang> http://askubuntu.com/questions/12867/how-do-i-remove-players-i-dont-use-from-the-sound-indicator LinuxLev you mean this?
[16:11] <NaZZaX> dr_willis they are not!
[16:11] <NaZZaX> but they are on the same IP Block
[16:11] <NaZZaX> .us is 91.189.91.31
[16:12] <NaZZaX> archive.ubuntu.com is 91.189.92.184
[16:12] <jrib> NaZZaX: us. is actually a pool of servers
[16:12] <NaZZaX> jrib yes I'm sure it is
[16:12] <Will123467> hey guys. i'm installing a persistent version of ubuntu to a USB stick, so i can use it as a portable OS. is using unetbootin okay? what would you recommend? it came preformatted with FAT32 - worth reformatting? to what?
[16:12] <NaZZaX> that IP is probably the load Balancer in front of it
[16:13] <LinuxLev> Not quite, bazhang.  When using Rhytembox, everytime the song changes, a notification appears in the upper right corner, such as when someone highlights me in IRC or sends me an Empathy IM.  I'd like to turn it off for just the Rhythembox application.
[16:13] <NaZZaX> but they are on two different IP's for what its worth
[16:13] <bazhang> LinuxLev, and that removes the notifications
[16:13] <LarrysDesk> I'm using a laptop with another OS on it to install Ubuntu onto a HardDrive, which I'll move to a headless server in a little bit.  I've booted from the Ubuntu Installer CD, attached the 'new' drive to the laptop's USB port, and am working my way through the install.
[16:13] <LarrysDesk> When I get to the section on installing the bootloader, it 'detects' the laptop's *existing* OS, and asks if I want to install the bootloader to the MasterBootRecord.  I want to make sure the Ubuntu bootloader gets installed onto the NEW, external drive, not the laptop's existing, internal drive.
[16:13] <LarrysDesk> I can't tell what the isntaller intends to do here; how do I verify that it's gonna install to the new drive?
[16:13] <NaZZaX> so should i change it back to us.archive.ubuntu.com and see if i get the error again?
[16:14] <LinuxLev> Oh, I mis-read the question on the link you gave, thank you.
[16:14] <wols> LarrysDesk: ctrl+alt+f2 and run grub-install /dev/sdb or whatever there
[16:14] <gchristensen> Hi, is it safe to remove the ubuntu user on EC2 servers?
[16:14] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1952044   jasonmsp
[16:14] <jrib> gchristensen: as long as you have some other user that can sudo, it should be safe on a standard ubuntu install
[16:14] <LarrysDesk> wols: type that command while I'm *IN* the installer?
[16:14] <wols> sure
[16:15] <gchristensen> thank you, jrib
[16:15] <wols> and don't let the install write grub to the disk
[16:15] <Will123467> LarrysDesK: the graphical ubuntu installer usually lets you specify which drive you want to install the boot loader, too
[16:15] <wols> or if it insists, let it write to the ubuntu partition itself and not the MBR. then go to the terminal and run grub-install
[16:15] <LarrysDesk> wols: Ok, thanks.  Will123467 Must have missed that :-(
[16:16] <luist> hey guys… i need help with this: http://pastie.org/5062803  i just installed ubuntu 10.04 and cant even install qtcreator!??!?!
[16:16] <jasonmsp> bazhang: thanks
[16:16] <dr_willis> Will123467:  last i looked unetbootin dident do persistant live setups. but it may now. the pendrivelinux site has nu erous tools that can
[16:16] <Will123467> dr_willis: it does if you're installing ubuntu, it lets you specify the amount of space you want to dedicate etc.
[16:16] <Will123467> dr_willis: if unetbootin is an okay way to do it then i'm happy with that - was just double checking :)
[16:17] <eax> Hi, I'm getting hangup with Ubuntu 12.02.1... nVIDIA Optimus... I got some text message that said "raise() ... drm ... intel." I have 1 Intel GPU + 1 nVidia GPU...
[16:17] <eax> Any ideas?
[16:17] <bazhang> eax, 12.04.1 ?
[16:17] <dr_willis> Will123467:  i tend to use other tools.. but i also tend to do 'full' normal installs to larger sized usb flash also
[16:18] <eax> bazhang: Yes, I think so.
[16:19] <Will123467> dr_willis: this is an 8 gig drive. what do you recommend?
[16:19] <Will123467> should i go with a full normal install?
[16:19] <NaZZaX> dr_willis is there a way i can test this outside the lab or can somone do an apt-get update and let me know if you get errors too ?
[16:20] <dr_willis> Will123467:  depends on your needs.  live setups can get confused if you use a persistant save and install a lot of extras/update them
[16:21] <Will123467> dr_willis: this is for a normal computer user friend who has a dodgy harddrive. so she needs something she can just plug in to her laptop and have it work in emergencies. you think a full install is better in this case?
[16:21] <dr_willis> Will123467:  flash drives are cheap make one of each. ;P
[16:22] <dr_willis> id suggest 16gb+ for a full install. 8gb may be tight
[16:22] <dr_willis> but for just web surfing and stuff should work
[16:22] <Will123467> dr_willis: shop is closed now, i've only got one drive and i'm going to see her tomorrow. so making two is out of the question :P plus i don't like her that much and i hate spending money
[16:22] <Will123467> yeah it's just a back up thing
[16:22] <dr_willis> stick with live then
[16:23] <Will123467> okay, thanks :) shame 12.04.2 isn't out yet eh
[16:23] <dr_willis> Will123467:  12.10 due out in a few days
[16:24] <crimsonmane> actually that's a good thing. new versions are always buggy. stick with solid ones for your friend otherwise she'll hate both you and your linux
[16:24] <Will123467> dr_willis: right, but i'm seeing her tomorrow and then she's leaving the country, so that's not great timing
[16:24] <Will123467> someone actually already put a weird customised ugly gnome shell version of 12.10 on her laptop which subsequently broke and completely alienated her (first time user) to linux, so i'm doing damage control :P hence 12.04
[16:25] <NaZZaX> dr_willis now that i have a successful apt-get do i need to do anything else or just reboot
[16:26] <Will123467> crimsonmane: yep, that's exactly what happened :P
[16:26]  * NaZZaX really needs to take a ubuntu class its been too long since i have done *nix
[16:26] <dr_willis> why do you think you need to reboot?
[16:26] <Safa_[A_boy]> hi all, I have a problem with the window slide, I'm on ambiance theme but it not that ! its like ignore that and replace it with anther !
[16:27] <NaZZaX> because i have been away from *nix too long and used to WinBLOWS
[16:28] <NaZZaX> cool your chatting mobile
[16:29] <eax> Hi, I'm getting hangup with Ubuntu 12.02.1... nVIDIA Optimus... I got some text message that said "raise() ... drm ... intel." I have 1 Intel GPU + 1 nVidia GPU...
[16:30] <designbybeck_> Kudos to Yoonseo of Open Source Ecology for using Ubuntu Linux Operating System (3:20sec in video) http://vimeo.com/51420624
[16:31] <silverghost> when is ubunt u12.10 coming out
[16:31] <michealPW> It's a date, silly.
[16:31] <crizis> 30th?
[16:32] <dr_willis> a year and month. ;-)
[16:32] <crizis> .. but day
[16:32] <silverghost> i have one question i have reported a bug in ubunt u12.10 beta any chances it will get solved in 12.10 final ?
[16:32] <michealPW> 12.10 == 2012 10th month, which is November.
[16:32] <michealPW> So Ubuntu 12.10 will be out sometime in November.
[16:32] <dr_willis> !schedule
[16:33] <michealPW> I'm not sure exactly the day, I think that's up to Canonical? Maybe more information is on the Ubuntu website though
[16:33] <crizis> it should come out at thursday
[16:33] <crizis> 18th
[16:33] <michealPW> Oh, thanks dr_willis :)
[16:33] <silverghost> 25
[16:33] <silverghost> October 18th
[16:33] <silverghost> Quality
[16:33] <silverghost>  FinalRelease
[16:33] <FloodBot1> silverghost: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:33] <Safa_[A_boy]> so...?
[16:33] <silverghost> 3 days to go
[16:34] <dr_willis> so what?
[16:34] <Safa_[A_boy]> hi all, I have a problem with the window slide, I'm on ambiance theme but it not that ! its like ignore that and replace it with anther !
[16:34] <michealPW> Wait, isn't 12.10 November LOL?
[16:34] <silverghost> 5 month release cycle
[16:34] <silverghost> lolwoot
[16:34] <dr_willis> Safa_[A_boy]:  that makes no sence  at all...
[16:35] <silverghost> lol who uses ambiance theme haha
[16:35] <michealPW> Crazyhorse! That's so confusing. *shrugs*
[16:35] <Safa_[A_boy]> its great!
[16:35] <michealPW> Why wouldn't they call it Ubuntu 12.09 LOL?
[16:35] <michealPW> :|
[16:35] <silverghost> ahaha
[16:36] <silverghost> xD
[16:36] <silverghost> funnty situation
[16:36] <Will123467> michealPW: october is the 10th month
[16:36] <crizis> michealPW, <year>.<month>
[16:36] <silverghost> lolwoot
[16:36] <michealPW> Safa_[A_boy], So I think your problem is that you've selected the Ambiance theme... However it has not applied the Ambiance theme and instead has applied another one?
[16:36] <silverghost> ahaha
[16:36] <silverghost> u all drunk
[16:36] <michealPW> Wait, what? LOL let me look at a calendar (rofl)
[16:37] <silverghost> i reported a bug in 12.10 beta any chances it will get solved in final ?
[16:37] <dr_willis> oct. nov. dec...
[16:37] <michealPW> Wait, no.. October, November, December... January is the 1st of 2013...
[16:37] <crizis> read the bugraport from launchpad perhaps?
[16:37] <michealPW> December is the 12th month of 2012? Or am I totally confused (rofl)
[16:37] <dr_willis> silverghost: check the bug report
[16:37] <Safa_[A_boy]> its saying "Ambiance" but its not here !
[16:38] <silverghost> critical incomplete
[16:38] <crizis> usually december is 12th month of the year, michealPW ...
[16:38] <trism> silverghost: what bug number?
[16:38] <michealPW> Oh god I'm retarded, nevermind me!
[16:38] <michealPW> LOL!
[16:38] <Will123467> michaelPW: so what do we mark your bug report? wontfix? wishlist? we can fix the ubuntu calendar but not the gregorian one
[16:38] <dr_willis> silverghost: ounds like they dident get enough info
[16:38] <crizis> too much offtopic
[16:40] <eax> Hi, I'm getting hangup with Ubuntu 12.02.1... nVIDIA Optimus... I got some text message that said "raise() ... drm ... intel." I have 1 Intel GPU + 1 nVidia GPU... How can I fix this?
[16:40] <silverghost> just 3 days to go let us wait and see cheers lads!!
[16:40] <Will123467> eax: pretty sure 12.04 doesn't really support optimus. feel free to put me right though
[16:40] <michealPW> Wow, 3 days..
[16:40] <Safa_[A_boy]> أريد حلّا !
[16:41] <eax> Will123467: So?
[16:41] <michealPW> Should I download the iso and replace my 12.04 disk with 12.10 and then do a dist-upgrade? (Having the 12.10 liveCD just in case)
[16:41] <michealPW> By 12.04 disk I mean my RW-DVD with the 12.04 liveCD :P
[16:41] <crizis> 12.10 won't fit on cd
[16:41] <michealPW> Or should I replace my disk and use it to whipe this 12.04 clean and put a fresh 12.10 in place?
[16:42] <dr_willis> i allways do clean installs
[16:42] <michealPW> A DVD though, it will fit? I just use "disk"/"cd" as synonymous with DVD haha sorry :P
[16:42] <crizis> i always upgrade :-)
[16:42] <michealPW> Yea, on Windows I always did clean install. That's 'cause Windows setup is horrific at upgrading LOL
[16:42] <crizis> although reinstalling could be a good excuse to buy SSD, finally
[16:43] <michealPW> I can't afford SSD yet.. I wish :P
[16:43] <Jeff_Bezos> hi guys
[16:43] <dr_willis> make the system boot the iso file for a faster install. ;-)
[16:43] <michealPW> No disposable income for that kind of an expense :|
[16:43] <Will123467> i saw a 64 gig SSD for 35 quid in a shop today. i got my 64 gig SSD for 90 quid about two years ago
[16:43] <Will123467> 35 quid isn't so much if you go hungry for a bit
[16:43] <crizis> ssd's aren't expensive anymore. 60-80e for 128GB and 140-180e for 256gb
[16:43] <michealPW> dr_willis: LOL like mount the iso and run install from there? How would that work during the install I wonder haha? :\
[16:44] <Jeff_Bezos> can i have some information regarding the new ubuntu
[16:44] <michealPW> Will123467, How much is 35 "quid" in $CDN  hehe?
[16:44] <dr_willis> michealPW: grub2 can boot the iso.
[16:44] <crizis> Jeff_Bezos, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview/Beta2
[16:44] <Safa_[A_boy]> how can you all read all that ?!!!!!!
[16:44] <michealPW> dr_willis, Ahh, that's interesting! :\
[16:44] <michealPW> dr_willis, So like, I could edit my grub menu to add the iso and then boot from the iso??
[16:45] <michealPW> That would be pretty slick LOL
[16:45] <Will123467> michaelPW: what's a CDN? canadian? 35 quid is 55 canadian dollars
[16:45] <Safa_[A_boy]> what about my problem ?!!
[16:45] <dr_willis> michealPW: exactly.
[16:45] <michealPW> Ah, 55 Canadian hrmm that's not bad :\
[16:45] <michealPW> I imagined much higher
[16:45] <michealPW> Still, ~$60 is a chunk of money :|
[16:46] <dr_willis> Safa_[A_boy]: i think people are not clear on your problem
[16:46] <LarrysDesk> wols: I'm at that ctrl-alt-f2 console, about to 'grub-install' -- I've partitioned/configured a *separate* "/boot" partition on the HD, @ /dev/sdb1.  Should it be "grub-install /dev/sdb" or "grub-install /dev/sdb1"?
[16:46] <Safa_[A_boy]> dr_willis, should I upload a screenshot ?!
[16:47] <michealPW> I think I know his problem but I don't know the solution.
[16:47] <michealPW> Safa_[A_boy], Try selecting another Theme and pressing "Apply"; then re-select your Ambiance theme and press "Apply" again...
[16:47] <michealPW> Iunno. Hehe
[16:48] <michealPW> I think he's saying he selects the "Ambiance" theme but it applies another theme instead hehe.
[16:48] <Safa_[A_boy]> I tried to download another Ambiance theme but it still !
[16:48] <LarrysDesk> or, anyone for that matter ...
[16:49] <dr_willis> it still!    ?...  full sentances would help us..
[16:49] <eax> Hi, I'm getting hangup with Ubuntu 12.02.1... nVIDIA Optimus... I got some text message that said "raise() ... drm ... intel." I have 1 Intel GPU + 1 nVidia GPU... How can I fix this?
[16:49] <michealPW> So.. What are you doing again, LarrysDesk? You've readied a partition for /boot in /dev/sdb1 and you'd like to install grub to it right?
[16:49] <kikkko> ciao
[16:50] <Safa_[A_boy]> http://i48.tinypic.com/10ga7o1.png
[16:51] <Safa_[A_boy]> dr_willis, the problem is that my english is not so good :|
[16:51] <michealPW> LarrysDesk, So I think you're on the right track. grub-install /dev/sdb1 should do it. Double check the manual for grub-install though to make sure you're not missing any important switches (man grub-install)
[16:51] <kikkko> come si usa questo programma
[16:52] <michealPW> Oh, he's using gnome tweak, I guess, trying to set everything to use Ambiance? I can't figure much out in that screenshot 'cause I can't read the language Safa_[A_boy] :|
[16:52] <michealPW> Sorry.
[16:52] <chachin> damn 1662 users
[16:52] <chachin> i wonder what's the record peak of most users in one chan :(
[16:53] <LarrysDesk> michealPW: Hi.  I'm booted on my laptop (running another OS) to the Ubuntu Installer CD, with an *external* HD attached.  I'm doing an Ubuntu install to that HD.  @ the "bootloader" section of the install, I hit ctrl-alt-f2, and want to install the bootloader to the MBR in the right part of that external HD.  Iiuc, it goes to the "separate boot" partition @ /dev/sdb1, *NOT* the disk itself @ /dev/sdb.  right?
[16:53] <jrib> chachin: come back on release day
[16:53] <chachin> what release date?
[16:53] <DUKENUKEM> hey guys, my /boot is almost full because of all the kernel updates over the months.  can i safely just remove the kernels i am not using?  (im not sure of the "ubuntu" way to do things (ie, the clean way :P))
[16:54] <jrib> DUKENUKEM: yes, just remove the corresponding linux-image package
[16:54] <osse> I've noticed that gnome-terminal uses other colors than some other terminals (such as xterm). Still the output of the 256colors2.pl script is the same. What is happening?
[16:54] <DUKENUKEM> jrib: ok cool thanks
[16:55] <michealPW> LarrysDesk: Oh, okay! Well, correct. I think you're right. I'm not an expert, though, just to warn you... What you say makes perfect sense. If you select /dev/sdb it will put it in that drive's MBR not the partition you created. If you use /dev/sdb1 it will put it in the partition you've created, though.
[16:56] <ghabit> Hello. Is it big diffeence between clean install and upgrade to newest version of ubuntu? Which one is better?
[16:56] <LarrysDesk> michealPW: I guess my question then should also be -- where SHOULD i put it?  in the MBR, or the boot partition?  I want to make sure that when I detach this drive from the laptop, and put it (eventually) into a new machine, it'll boot correctly.
[16:57] <michealPW> LarrysDesk: Ah, well I would THINK you should put it in /dev/sdb, the MBR. That way if you detach it and re-attach to another computer, without changing anything on that computer it's BIOS will find GRUB and let you easily boot from it.
[16:57] <michealPW> Again.. I'm not an expert, though :P
[16:58] <michealPW> If you put GRUB in a partition, though, I think you'll need to do chainloading (Say, put Windows' BOOTMGR in the MBR and create an entry in BOOTMGR that points to your partition with GRUB in it.)
[16:58] <eax> I see a lot of graphics problem with Unity. Or offsets wrong.
[16:59] <wilee-nilee> ghabit, Better is a subjective and is a personal decision, fresh and upgrade mean what they say, back up your setup before doing anything is your best move.
[16:59] <eax> Windows flying 20px below the cursor in some situations and such.
[16:59] <michealPW> LarrysDesk: The point of the MBR is that it's the first 2048 bytes of the hard disk. It's where a BIOS will automatically look for an operating system (In this case, GRUB.)
[16:59] <LarrysDesk> michealPW: If BIOS "looks" at the MBR of disks, then I think that's what I want ...
[17:00] <ghabit> wilee-nilee, I will try to rephrase my question.  Has any limitations upgrade? Is there some reasons to not upgrade, but make clean install instead? Sorry for my English.
[17:00] <michealPW> LarrysDesk: Indeed! I think that will give you the most flexability in using that removable drive on different PCs without changing anything on the PC. Like on mine, if you plugged it in when I start my computer I could press F12 and see it in the list without changing anything, then select it and up comes Ubuntu :P
[17:01] <LarrysDesk> hm.  I was instructed to use "grub-install".  When I try, though, it says "grub-install: not found".  THere *IS* a "grub-installer".  Same thing?
[17:01] <LarrysDesk> michealPW: ok, thanks!
[17:01] <michealPW> That's weird. It's grub-install here, I think *checks*
[17:02] <michealPW> grub-install (GRUB) 1.99-21ubuntu3.4
[17:02] <michealPW> grub-install -v ^^
[17:02] <wilee-nilee> ghabit, The reasons are per users, some want a fresh install I belong to that camp, it is faster for me. Some want a upgrade for whatever reasons.  Any install or upgrade can have problems, to many to list to be honest. The way you avoid some are to have your syuff that can't be lost backed up.
[17:03] <wilee-nilee> stuff*
[17:03] <LarrysDesk> michealPW: here "grub-installer -v" --> BusyBox v1.18.5 (Ubuntu 1:1.18.5-1ubuntu14) multi-call binary."
[17:03] <ghabit> wilee-nilee, I just want to update because of a lot of per-user  settings.
[17:03] <michealPW> Weird!
[17:03] <michealPW> WTH is BusyBox hehe?
[17:04] <svip> How do I purge and install a package on the same line?
[17:04] <jrib> svip: why do you want to do that?
[17:04] <wilee-nilee> ghabit, I think you mean upgrade, clone the original in case the upgrade breaks will be your best insurance.
[17:04] <LarrysDesk> I DL'd the install disk from the Ubuntu site.  Could it be compromised?
[17:05] <jrib> !md5sums | LarrysDesk
[17:05] <dr_willis> apt has a reinstall option, or i think you can do it other ways svip
[17:05] <michealPW> No, I'm just ignorant that's all :P
[17:05] <wilee-nilee> LarrysDesk, Unlikely, but you can check the md5sum.
[17:05] <LarrysDesk> ubottu: I checked the MD5sum on DL.  It was correct.
[17:05] <svip> Because my repository is stuck in a rut.  It depends on some package, but cannot install it because it conflicts with another one.  I can remove that, but then a tonne of packages will be removed, and I want to avoid that.
[17:05] <LarrysDesk> Oh, jrib
[17:05] <michealPW> What the heck is this LOL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BusyBox
[17:05] <michealPW> Weird!
[17:06] <sukima> This page (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ#Will_my_wireless_work.3F) says for 12.04 to run: sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer however apt-get says that does not exist. This is on a liveCD iBook g4.Does the liveCD distro not include some source repositories?
[17:06] <gordonjcp> michealPW: ?
[17:06] <gordonjcp> michealPW: what's weird about it?
[17:06] <michealPW> Just reading, dunno what it is.
[17:06] <dr_willis> busybox is amazeing.
[17:06] <dr_willis> a multi function binary...
[17:07] <gordonjcp> michealPW: it's pretty much a complete userland for a small Linux system, in a single binary
[17:07] <michealPW> So like, almost the Explorer.exe style? :\
[17:07] <gordonjcp> michealPW: the really groovy thing is you can configure it to only have what you want
[17:07] <michealPW> Or cmd.exe, better analogy?
[17:07] <LarrysDesk> gordonjcp: dr_willis I was told in here to use 'grub-install' during my install.  I don't have 'grub-install' from ubuntu, apparetnly.  INstead I have this 'grub-installer' from "BusyBox".
[17:07] <LarrysDesk> Can I safely proceed or not?
[17:07] <dormito> I have noticed that after being away for a while(now sure how long as i havent had time to test, betwen 5 min and two hours) my Ubuntu 12.04 desktop will be in what appears to be a standby/suspend state(no signal to the monitors, keyboard/mouse do not do anything). but the fans and lights are on. This is inspite of the fact that I have set the power settings to "dont suspent". When I press the power button it  brings up the logon prompt.
[17:07] <dormito> However the keyboard and mouse dont work (they are usb and unpluging repluging does not resolve). Oddly though my webcam(usb) can still perfrom a facial recognition logon, but even then the keyboard/mouse are unresponsive. A after rebooting the keyboard/mouse resume working. I also was unable to find anything that looked like an error in the syslog in the time window for while I was away
[17:08] <gordonjcp> LarrysDesk: without knowing more about your situation I can't say for certain
[17:08] <svip> wtf libcairo2-dev depends on libcairo-2 1.10.2, but since 1.12.2 is installed, it won't install? o_O
[17:08] <gordonjcp> LarrysDesk: if you get it wrong you might hose other systems if you dual-boot
[17:08] <michealPW> I also can't say, LarrysDesk. I'm not familiar with BusyBox.
[17:08] <gordonjcp> LarrysDesk: at worst you can boot off a USB stick and back up your home directory before nuking and paving
[17:09] <gordonjcp> LarrysDesk: you can pretty much *always* recover your data if stuff goes moderately wrong
[17:09] <jrib> svip: read the description of "install" in « man apt-get ».  You can append a hyphen to a package name and it will be removed.  Though it sounds like you've done something very strange with your repositories
[17:09] <LarrysDesk> gordonjcp: I'm booted from the Installer CD.  I've ctrl-alt-F2'd to the installer's shell.  I'm trying to install grub using the cmd I was told to use.  The problem is that that command does not exist wherre I was told it should exist.
[17:09] <gordonjcp> LarrysDesk: the worst that'll ever happen is you need to back up, wipe, and reinstall
[17:09] <gordonjcp> LarrysDesk: go to it and good luck
[17:09] <gordonjcp> LarrysDesk: incidentally why didn't you just open a terminal in the desktop?
[17:09] <jrib> svip: you don't know why that is happening?  You haven't used unofficial repositories or repositories not meant for your ubuntu version?  Have you installed packages manually?
[17:10] <LarrysDesk> gordonjcp: What desktop?  This is a new install ...
[17:10] <LarrysDesk> I'm in the Installer
[17:10] <gordonjcp> LarrysDesk: the one you get when you boot the install CD
[17:10] <gordonjcp> oh, hang on, did you go into "Install Ubuntu" rather than "Try without installing"?
[17:11] <LarrysDesk> gordonjcp: YEs, because that's what i'm doing -- installing
[17:11] <sukima> Doesn't the installer run grub-install for you? why is that seperate manual step?
[17:12] <LarrysDesk> sukima because I'm installing to a different disk.  I need to tell grub-install which disk to use.
[17:12] <LarrysDesk> and that's what wols told me to do.
[17:13] <dr_willis> i thought the installer had a pull down menu to where to install grub to. and i definatly dont recall being limited to the busibox shell on the installer cds
[17:13] <michealPW> So BusyBox is more for embedded systems, then?
[17:14] <gordonjcp> michealPW: yes
[17:14] <dr_willis> if i install to 'sdb' the gui installer defaulted to sdb for me. or i could have selected sda
[17:14] <michealPW> How is he using BusyBox, wth? :|
[17:14] <gordonjcp> michealPW: if you're feeling hardcore, take a look at buildroot
[17:15] <gordonjcp> michealPW: that lets you cross-build a toolchain, a kernel, uclibc and busybox for a whole bunch of platforms - I've got one I built for a very specific i486-based machine
[17:15] <gordonjcp> michealPW: the kernel is about 4M and the rootfs is about 30M
[17:15] <dr_willis> busybox is part of the initrd. no idea how you would get into its shell from a normal install routine
[17:15] <michealPW> Wow
[17:15] <michealPW> That's crazy
[17:15] <TheRedOctober> Hi all. Why does 'ls' sometimes take a very long time to complete in filesystems with a huge number of files?
[17:16] <gordonjcp> TheRedOctober: complicated reasons related to ls not being very good at dealing with large numbers of files
[17:16] <michealPW> That's pretty cool, actually. So are things like BusyBox what people are putting on their routers and things like that?
[17:17] <gordonjcp> michealPW: yup
[17:17] <michealPW> "people" I should say companies hehe
[17:17] <michealPW> Ah, cool beans! I get it now :)
[17:17] <gordonjcp> michealPW: everyone you talk to who says they don't use Linux - they do if they have a wireless access point, or ADSL modem, or cable modem...
[17:18] <bkfitz> Question 1:  My schweeet new Lenovo X1 carbon arrived.  Is there literally ANY reason to stick with 32bit or is 64bit the clear choice?
[17:18] <bkfitz> Question 2:  12.04 or 12.10... if I go with 12.10 beta 2, can I just do a apt-get update to get to the release version when it comes out later this week?
[17:18] <dr_willis> bkfitz:  yes you can
[17:19] <gordonjcp> bkfitz: in order, not really unless you've got a good specific reason, and yes
[17:19] <dr_willis> i always go 64bit on 64bit hardware
 I miss the Amazon unity lens on my desktop
[17:19] <gordonjcp> but the macbook is sitting in my van
[17:20] <simplew> cant move icons in KDE plasma panel, when i try to move the icon position with the mouse i get this message: Klauncher said: 'preferred' unknown protocol,   anyone knows whats this?
[17:20] <gordonjcp> hrmph, I'll have to shop on Amazon the old-fashioned, hard way
[17:20] <michealPW> gordonjcp: haha, touche :)
[17:20] <simplew> dr_willis: to me
[17:21] <simplew> dr_willis: too me
[17:21] <dr_willis> me too?
[17:21] <dr_willis> ;-)
[17:21] <michealPW> dr_willis: Ah, really? I'm running 32-bit Ubuntu on 64-bit hardware :|
[17:22] <michealPW> I had such a horrific experience on Windows with 64-bit I just automatically picked 32-bit Ubuntu (blush)
[17:22] <michealPW> Driver chaos LOL
[17:23] <michealPW> Should I go with 64-bit 12.10 when I upgrade you think, dr_willis?
[17:23] <dr_willis> you cant upgrade from 32 to 64bit
[17:24] <dr_willis> install 64bit if you want 64bit
[17:25] <michealPW> I understand what the difference is but I don't see what benefit I would have :\
[17:25] <Layke> du -sh /home/layke says I have 66GB in my /home/layke directory
[17:25] <Layke> If I move to it, and then do du -sh * I can't find anything that would add up to 66gb
[17:25] <jrib> Layke: you forgot .*
[17:25] <Layke> Ah, I tried \.*
[17:25] <Layke> Okay thanks.
[17:26] <Layke> Yeah jrib .* doesn't help either
[17:26] <Layke> du -sh .*
[17:26] <jrib> Layke: also, you may prefer using baobab (Disk Usage Analyzer)
[17:26] <Layke> 66G     .
[17:26] <simplew> dr_willis: thats it :)
[17:26] <jrib> Layke: don't use the -s?
[17:27] <jrib> Layke: actually the -s should still spit out a summary for each argument that matched the glob
[17:27] <bkfitz> dr_willis: thx
[17:27] <Layke> jrib, Yeah, I think .* doesn't work the way you think the glob should
[17:27] <Layke> That's why I tried to escape it.
[17:27] <jrib> Layke: :/
[17:27] <Layke> * works
[17:27] <jrib> Layke: why don't you say what you are trying to do
[17:28] <Layke> jrib, My disk is at 100%
[17:28] <Layke> I clearly have some huge log/core dump file
[17:28] <michealPW> So using Ubuntu 12.04 I've installed GNOME 3 and KDE 4 alongside Unity. My wife uses Unity I use GNOME and KDE depending on how I feel at the time hehe... I have had some screensaver issues which I've solved.
[17:28] <Layke> I've tracked the problem down to something within /home/layke]
[17:28] <jrib> Layke: /me guesses ~/.xsession-errors
[17:29] <michealPW> I've solved the GNOME/Unity screensaver issue with Caffeine and the KDE screensaver issue with a shell script.. My question is, how do I make Caffeine only start with GNOME and Unity.. Shell script already only starts with KDE btw.
[17:29] <michealPW> I thought I'd use gdm.. But Ubuntu uses lightdm for all of them LOL! :\
[17:29] <Layke> Nope. 2.7 :)
[17:29] <michealPW> So when I setup the Autstart for Caffeine, I guess lightdm starts it regardless of which desktop environment I select when logging in :\
[17:29] <jrib> Layke: du -h * .* | sort -nr | less
[17:29] <jrib> erm
[17:30] <jrib> Layke: du -s * .* | sort -nr | less
[17:30] <michealPW> So let me ask the question a clearer way haha.. How do I make Caffeine start ONLY for GNOME and Unity but not for KDE? :\
[17:30] <Layke> Give me a minute to let it run :)
[17:30] <jrib> michealPW: that is an interesting question ;)
[17:30] <michealPW> Oh wait I bet I can make a shell script that KDE runs... That just does killall caffeine
[17:30] <michealPW> Right?
[17:30] <michealPW> LMAO hackishly brilliant!
[17:31] <jrib> michealPW: that is an ugly kludge -_-
[17:31] <dormito> I have noticed that after being away for a while(now sure how long as i havent had time to test, betwen 5 min and two hours) my Ubuntu 12.04 desktop will be in what appears to be a standby/suspend state(no signal to the monitors, keyboard/mouse do not do anything). but the fans and lights are on. This is inspite of the fact that I have set the power settings to "dont suspent". When I press the power button it brings up the logon prompt. However
[17:31] <dormito>  the keyboard and mouse dont work (they are usb and unpluging repluging does not resolve). Oddly though my webcam(usb) can still perfrom a facial recognition logon, but even then the keyboard/mouse are unresponsive. A after rebooting the keyboard/mouse resume working. I also was unable to find anything that looked like an error in the syslog in the time window for while I was away
[17:32] <jrib> dormito: output of « xset q » on pastebin
[17:32] <michealPW> LOL jrib I guess you're right :(
[17:33] <trism> michealPW: there is AutostartCondition if you use a .desktop in /etc/xdg/autostart/, though I don't know the full syntax of it (gnome-sound-applet.desktop uses it to only start in gnome-fallback session)
[17:33] <osse> How does gnome-terminal change the colors of the extra 240 colors? I know gnome-terminal has a certain thme on the 16 usual colors, but it seems the other ones (when using TERM=xterm-256color) are different as well.
[17:33] <michealPW> Ah, interesting. Thank you, trism!
[17:33] <michealPW> That at least gives me a place to start hehe 'cause I ran out of ideas
[17:34] <jrib> michealPW: 1) slightly less ugly, but still kludgy: check if unity/gnome is running and only run the app if that's the case or 2) set some sort of environment variable in your session files
[17:34] <jrib> erm that "1)" is in the wrong place :(
[17:34] <michealPW> hehe
[17:34] <michealPW> thx ;)
[17:34] <bourke_> can anyone please tell me how to reset my ecryptfs login password with only the mount passphrase?
[17:35] <dormito> http://pastebin.com/Lx4p0zkX
[17:35] <jrib> trism: oh can you specify that an app only starts for a certain session in a .desktop?
[17:35] <jrib> !encrypt | bourke_
[17:35] <jrib> bourke_: check that wiki article as well as the blog articles referenced.  I think it goes into that
[17:36] <bourke_> jrib: Ive read it, it seems to only tell you have to recover your mount passphrase. any guide ive read assumes you have your login passphrase
[17:36] <wilee-nilee> dormito, Make sure you use the nick of the destination of your post. ;)
[17:37] <jrib> bourke_: I'm just skimming the "recovering your data manually" section but don't see where it requires the login passphrase
[17:38] <dormito> wilee-nilee: ah, thanks
[17:38] <bourke_> jrib: true, but basically Id rather not have to "recover" my data and copy it somewhere else etc.  Ideally I could just reset the login phrase
[17:38] <jrib> bourke_: I see.
[17:38] <bourke_> Maybe Im best off just doing it the hard way though
[17:39] <dormito> jrib: http://pastebin.com/Lx4p0zkX (incase you didnt catch it because I didnt address you)
[17:39] <trism> michealPW: oh, notification-daemon.desktop seems like it might be more like what you want: AutostartCondition=GNOME3 unless-session gnome (maybe you can use kde instead? it appears to be a gnome extension so might not work)
[17:39] <michealPW> Hrmm!
[17:39] <jrib> dormito: weird, your computer shouldn't suspend :x
[17:39] <trism> jrib: a couple of the xdg autostart files have it but it isn't well documented unfortunately
[17:39] <jrib> trism: ah, cool
[17:39] <michealPW> I was reading the freedesktop specification for .desktop files, wasn't getting anywhere. I think GNOME adopts this specification and extends it, maybe? :\
[17:40] <jrib> bourke_: yeah, I guess you'd have to go read a bit more about how the encrypted directories are setup
[17:42] <michealPW> Ack.. The GNOME developers site links back to the freedesktop.org site for the specification :\
[17:42] <michealPW> That's frustrating LOL
[17:42] <michealPW> It has to be documented somewhere haha
[17:43] <jrib> bourke_: I assume if you change your password, then the actual encryption key is re-encrypted with the new login password.  Presumably, this probably happens via PAM.  How you would do it manually though, would require some digging
[17:43] <jrib> "It has to be documented somewhere haha" <-- famous last words
[17:44] <bourke_> jrib: yeah, I think ill just go with the wiki method and hope for the best. thanks for the tips though
[17:44] <jrib> dormito: you can try "xset -dpms" but I think having the timeouts at 0 should already be sufficient.  I'm not sure what's causing your computer to suspend
[17:44] <michealPW> LOL jrib
[17:45] <michealPW> I guess I'll just try to read as many Autostart .desktop files I can find and see if I can't figure it out LOL
[17:45] <jrib> michealPW: if you have kde installed, look for some "kde-y" ones
[17:45] <dormito> jrib: ok I'll try that. I have not been able to reproduce the issue at will so I cant test it right away
[17:46] <michealPW> With GNOME/Nautilus, how do I get an "Open With.." behavior? I right-click on this .desktop but I just have an "Open" option hehe
[17:47] <michealPW> Don't make me use a terminal LOL!
[17:47] <jrib> michealPW: properties, then look for an open with tab.  Or something like that.  It changes every other release...
[17:47] <michealPW> Nautilus sucks so hard ugh :\
[17:49] <michealPW> I found this in one of my .desktop: X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled=false
[17:49] <dormito> jrib: I did just try a manual suspend and the computer behaved a little different from my issue. the mouse woke it up and the keyboard/mouse worked fine, but in addition to that the fan(in the desktop) turned off or at least went quite. I am not really sure what to make of that
[17:49] <michealPW> I wonder if there's a similar KDE option I can set to false hehe
[17:50] <michealPW> Maybe it's in the Exec key
[17:52] <michealPW> bah maybe not :
[17:52] <michealPW> :\
[17:53] <Guest53743> whats the best irc client for ubuntu
[17:53] <g0bl1n> can Gnome 3 be used on 12.04 ?
[17:53] <michealPW> Wait I think I've got it hehe
[17:53] <nathali> i use irssi
[17:53] <michealPW> I think there's X-GNOME-Autostart-Enabled=boolean and also X-KDE-Autostart-Enabled=boolean
[17:54] <Guest53743> which one is most like mirc
[17:54] <michealPW> brb let me test
[17:54] <jrib> Guest53743: try xchat
[17:56] <michealPW> Righto, now lets test! :)
[17:56] <michealPW> brb
[17:56] <qbmaniac> hey everyone!
[17:57] <qbmaniac> Just wondering, has anyone tried to modify the /etc/hosts file here successfully?
[17:57] <bekks> Sure.
[17:57] <qbmaniac> I would like to reroute an external subdomain (DDNS) to my localhost, so that when I try to connect through MySQL to anyhost.mine.nu the call gets redirected to my localhost
[17:58] <bekks> qbmaniac: 127.0.0.1 anyhost.mine.nu
[17:58] <fission6> is there a cron log - i cron a job and its not apparently running
[17:58] <qbmaniac> I added 127.0.0.1 mine.nu in /etc/hosts, and 127.0.0.1 anyhost.mine.nu there
[17:58] <qbmaniac> And when I do a ping
[17:58] <qbmaniac> it says it is going to 127.0.0.1
[17:58] <qbmaniac> But when I try to connect using MySQL it fails to find the host
[17:59] <qbmaniac> Do I need to specify port as well in the hosts file?
[17:59] <bekks> You cannot specify a port in the /etc/hosts
[17:59] <bekks> qbmaniac: Check wether your mysqld is listening on localhost, too.
[17:59] <qbmaniac> oh
[17:59] <qbmaniac> good point
[18:00] <qbmaniac> I enabled remote connections in mysqld
[18:00] <qbmaniac> Maybe I closed the local ones :P
[18:02] <qbmaniac> oh great
[18:02] <qbmaniac> that worked bekks, I wasn't listening on localhost but I was on the server's IP, so I just changed hosts to point to the IP instead of localhost
[18:02] <qbmaniac> Thanks a lot :)
[18:05] <rigid> where do projects normally maintain their debian/* files (control etc.)? in the main source repository? is there a best-practice?
[18:05] <jrib> rigid: try #ubuntu-motu
[18:05] <rigid> jrib: thanks
[18:05] <gordonjcp> rigid: I've seen a lot of projects where they're right in with the rest of the source files in the debian/ directory
[18:06] <rigid> gordonjcp: ah thanks... currently i keep them in a dir /distros/ubuntu/debian ... i guess that's fine then :)
[18:06] <rigid> ...just asked to be sure
[18:11] <sam1967> anyone know abt synthetic telepathy
[18:12] <JessicaW> looking for help with bnx2 drivers. upgraded to newer drivers to include 10gb cards and now I can't get any of my nics to work.
[18:12] <JessicaW> getting error no such device but lspci | grep -i eth shows the cards
[18:12] <fission6> anyone here well versed in cron issues - i am having issues getting a script to successfully run under cron but works find when explicitly run
[18:12] <JessicaW> and looks like bnx module not loaded.
[18:13] <dr_willis> load the module by hand JessicaW ?
[18:14] <JessicaW> dr_willis: I tried rmmod bnx2 and insmod bnx2 to no avail.
[18:14] <dr_willis> i tend to use modprobe  i recall
[18:14] <JessicaW> I tried that too
[18:15] <dr_willis> load module. check dmesg output fir errors
[18:15] <JessicaW> it replies with could not load /lib/modules/2.6.32-44-server/modules.dep
[18:16] <fission6> any ideas  Computer CRON[1844]: (CRON) error (grandchild #1846 failed with exit status 1)
[18:16] <JessicaW> nothing shows in dmesg.
[18:16] <NoSuchNick> If a binary with the same name occours multiple times in my PATH, which one is actually used? Is it the first occourence?
[18:16] <JessicaW> dmesg | grep eth = nothing. same with grep bnx
[18:17] <dr_willis> NoSuchNick: yes
[18:17] <NoSuchNick> dr_willis: Thanks!
[18:17] <bkfitz> Question: New X1 carbon laptop, going to install 12.10, should I leave UEFI enabled or disable it?
[18:17] <dr_willis> not sure what modules.dep does.
[18:18] <jiffe98> question, how are you supposed to chroot apache now with 12.04?
[18:18] <JessicaW> me neither. and to top it off, I can't even get the new driver to make now. was working fine on Friday....
[18:18] <jiffe98> I used to use libapache2-mod-chroot but that is no longer available
[18:19] <lawe> Why do no black people use Ubuntu?
[18:19] <ghabit> Help please - looks like updating stucked at "ttf-mscorefonts-installer: downloading  http://downloads.souceforge.net/corefonts/georgi32.exe"
[18:19] <ghabit> and nothing is happening.
[18:20] <bekks> ghabit: Do you use 12.10?
[18:20] <ghabit> bekks, i'm trying to upgrade 12.04 to 12.10 now.
[18:20] <ghabit> And this is the process of updating.
[18:21] <BluesKaj> lawe, how do you know they don't ?
[18:21] <lawe> They never come to projects, I generally have never heard of a black person using Ubuntu
[18:22] <Myrtti> lawe: did you have a support question?
[18:22] <BluesKaj> what ptojects?
[18:22] <lawe> MYRITTI: NO
[18:22] <dr_willis> wonder why it would rediwnliad that. exe
[18:22] <JessicaW> dr_willis: oO.... none of my modules are loaded!
[18:22] <lawe> BluesKaj: open source projects
[18:23] <dr_willis> !find modules.dep
[18:24] <mrgt> I'm using update manager and getting the following error - "Package Operation Failed". I get this in the details pane http://pastebin.com/Y7XyCSwa. How can I resolve this?
[18:25] <kostkon> mrgt, try:  sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:25] <dr_willis> JessicaW:   try   depmod -a
[18:26] <mrgt> kostkon, will do.
[18:27] <JessicaW> dr_willis: could not open /lib/modules/2.6.32-44-server: no such file or directory
[18:27] <JessicaW> dr_willis: HOLY CRAP. ls /lib/modules.... it's EMPTY.
[18:28] <dr_willis> im glad i rarely need to mess with kernel stuff....
[18:28] <dr_willis> what kernel are you running now?
[18:28] <JessicaW> dr_willis: well, now I know what the problem is.
[18:29] <JessicaW> dr_willis: 2.6.32-44-server
[18:29] <JessicaW> dr_willis: 10.04.4
[18:29] <dr_willis> kernel kapers and khaos. :(
[18:30] <michealPW> Argh!
[18:30] <michealPW> LOL I broke KDE :(
[18:30] <dr_willis> rest it over my head these days.
[18:30] <JessicaW> dr_willis: I have another server running identical install. I'm going to copy modules from there.
[18:30] <JessicaW> brb
[18:31] <michealPW> Every time I log-in to KDE it seems as though it loads up fine but the bar at the bottom with my K launcher is unresponsive. Can't seem to properly log-out of KDE either. I tried alt+f2 and used sudo shutdown now but that didn't work
[18:31] <michealPW> It started to shutdown but then froze during the shutdown :\
[18:32] <se> hi
[18:32] <michealPW> I think it's the KDE session that's broken. I set it to start with an empty session, maybe that's what did it. How do I clear KDE's sessions so it will create a new one upon login?
[18:32] <mrgt> kostkon, I tried what you suggested but when I go to the update manager again it still says that there are software updates available.
[18:33] <mrgt> kostkon, I went to install again and get the same error.
[18:34] <kostkon> mrgt, did you get any errors or warnings after giving the command ive given you above
[18:34] <MY`Pawl[WuTang]> thanks so much for your programming hours ubuntu team, pheonominal segue from windows in '06 for me, about to hit lucky 7 from your famous box!
[18:35] <MY`Pawl[WuTang]> I thought PC-BSD would superceed ubuntu though it failed to
[18:35] <mrgt> kostkon, when I ran the command I got this output http://pastebin.com/969Nf3Xr
[18:35] <MY`Pawl[WuTang]> the only other distro I would call "of choice" besides ubuntu and PC-BSD would be sidux with the slh kernel
[18:36] <kostkon> mrgt, what version of ubuntu is it
[18:36] <MY`Pawl[WuTang]> I don't know how I can say "thanks" other than the ntsc filter on 2 mode blending is great for some public domain martial arts 70's films
[18:36] <MY`Pawl[WuTang]> vlc
[18:37] <user> hi. Does anyone know a program I can get with synaptic that lets me disable services?
[18:37] <mrgt> kostkon, 12.04
[18:37] <theadmin> MY`Pawl[WuTang]: I'm sure the developers would appreciate this. However, this channel is support-only, please understand and try to keep on topic.
[18:37] <MY`Pawl[WuTang]> oh I'm sorry, is there a general ubuntu chat fan chan?
[18:37] <theadmin> MY`Pawl[WuTang]: #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:38] <MY`Pawl[WuTang]> thx peace from sonjitos dot
[18:38] <kostkon> mrgt, ok, just give this cmd and post the output somewhere:  apt-cache policy linux-headers-generic-pae && apt-cache policy nitruxos
[18:41] <rachelfish> Okay #ubuntu, I'm fed up with this
[18:41] <bkfitz> Question:  If I have a SSD, does it matter where (beginning or end) of disk i put the / and swap partitions??
[18:41] <rachelfish> how do I restart bluetooth without restarting my computer?
[18:41] <rachelfish> I have a bluetooth pcmcia card and if I walk out of range and my device disconnects without "cleanly" disconnecting
[18:41] <rachelfish> ubuntu takes a shit on itself
[18:41] <rachelfish> rubs it around
[18:41] <rachelfish> and refuses to reconnect
[18:41] <mrgt> kostkon, I seem to have narrowed it down a bit. I installed updates one-by-one using update manager and the error seems to be coming from "system-v-like utilities". Here's the output from the command http://pastebin.com/Vzyqnw7U
[18:42] <rachelfish> sudo service bluetooth restart doesn't work
[18:42] <theadmin> Is there any UFS support in Ubuntu? Must I install some package for it?
[18:42] <bekks> theadmin: Read only.
[18:42] <theadmin> bekks: Sounds good enough
[18:43] <mrgt> kostkon, brb
[18:44] <theadmin> bekks: Still though, "mount.ufs" doesn't seem to exist
[18:44] <bkfitz> Question:  If I have a SSD, does it matter where (beginning or end) of disk i put the / and swap partitions??
[18:44] <crizis> does it ever?
[18:44] <theadmin> bkfitz: It shouldn't matter regardless of the drive type
[18:44] <bekks> theadmin: sudo apt-get install ufsutils... :)
[18:44] <ThinkT510> bkfitz: no, but i'd avoid swap on an ssd
[18:44] <theadmin> bekks: Thanks, that's what I was looking for :)
[18:48] <bkfitz> ThinkT510: no choice
[18:48] <michealPW> How do I clear my KDE sessions?
[18:48] <bkfitz> only have SSD
[18:49] <michealPW> Maybe I can do dpkg-reconfigure kde-base ?
[18:49] <michealPW> Hrmm
[18:50] <k1l_> bkfitz: do you really need swap?
[18:51] <theadmin> k1l_ raises a valid point, bkfitz... You don't really *need* swap nowadays (apart from maybe on Gentoo)
[18:51] <mrgt> kostkon, back
[18:51] <k1l_> bkfitz: swap ist only used for suspend2disk (most systems have enough ram to not need swap). and on ssds there is no beginning and ending in the old hdd view
[18:51] <mrgt> kostkon, so you got any ideas?
[18:51] <Lockscreen> Anione knows a tool for editing a distro live DVD before install?
[18:51] <kostkon> mrgt, how many packages are now listed in the update manager?
[18:51] <gorbeh> Hi, since i ran an update (precise) the other day my flash player crashes and chrome was actualy killing my xsessiom when i started it, any ideas what might be causeing this
[18:52] <mrgt> kostkon, 2. System-v-like utilities and ubuntu icon theme.
[18:52] <DiegoFoca> d
[18:52] <bekks> Lockscreen: You cant edit a DVD media after it has been deployed on the media.
[18:52] <gorbeh> II removed nvidia driver and it stopped chrome dieing but flash is still borked
[18:53] <Lockscreen> I mean Iso image
[18:53] <kostkon> mrgt, try: apt-cache policy sysvutils
[18:53] <BluesKaj> k1l_, if you already have 4 primary partitions without a swap you can make a swap file,  http://digitizor.com/2011/02/06/create-swap-file-ubuntu-linux/
[18:53] <bekks> Lockscreen: Extract the contents, modify them, create a new ISO file.
[18:54] <Lockscreen> Anione knows a tool for editing a distro live .iso image before install?
[18:54] <Lockscreen> there is no automated tool?
[18:54] <mrgt> kostkon,  Installed: (none)
[18:54] <mrgt>   Candidate: 2.86.ds1-14.1ubuntu45
[18:54] <mrgt>   Version table:
[18:54] <mrgt>      2.86.ds1-14.1ubuntu45 0
[18:54] <mrgt>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy/main i386 Packages
[18:54] <bekks> Lockscreen: No.
[18:54] <FloodBot1> mrgt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:54] <Lockscreen> thanks
[18:54] <gorbeh> Any one can help me get flash player working? It crashes very quickly since my last update on prescise
[18:54] <kostkon> mrgt, hardy??
[18:55] <mrgt> kostkon, ?
[18:55] <kostkon> mrgt, give:  nano /etc/apt/sources.list and post the contents of the file somewhere
[18:55] <bkfitz> kil: interesting point
[18:55] <kostkon> mrgt, better:  gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:55] <bkfitz> kil: just assumed you had to have a swap space... what if you run out of ram
[18:55] <jbohren> wow... hardy... seriously?
[18:55] <ThinkT510> !remaster | Lockscreen
[18:56] <dummy> hi, can somebody help me please. I installed linux-mint and everything worked fine but then i install the addtional graphic driver from ATI and now after rebooting i can only boot in the text-mode there is no gui (only text). Can somebody tell me how i can delete the ATI drive and can install the default graphic driver? Thanks.
[18:56] <bekks> !linuxmint | dummy
[18:56] <DJones> !mint | dummy
[18:56] <bkfitz> kil: I guess if an app needs more ram and i run out, it will get it from another app, not expand on to swap
[18:56] <Lockscreen> thanks
[18:57] <k1l_> bkfitz: yes
[18:57] <Lockscreen> thanks ubottu
[18:57] <McClein> hi, is it possible to reach a pc behind a router with ssh?
[18:57] <theadmin> dummy: sudo apt-get remove fglrx, but for further support please visit irc://irc.spotchat.org/linuxmint-help
[18:57] <theadmin> McClein: Once you configure port forwarding on your router, sure.
[18:57] <k1l_> bkfitz: but dont think your whole ram is used strictly
[18:57] <McClein> can you explain me a little theadmin ?
[18:58] <DiegoFoca> I have a problem when i downloading anything, when the download start i can't surfing the Internet, why ?
[18:58] <mrgt> kostkon, http://pastebin.com/UMeDFasU
[18:58] <dummy> theadmin, thanks i will try
[18:58] <theadmin> McClein: Honestly depends on your router model and firmware, but basically you need to forward requests to port 22 of your public IP to your home computer
[18:58] <bkfitz> kil: I have 4g ram and a 256ssd... but I do some pretty hard work on it... postgres with spatial support... pretty intensive apps
[18:59] <k1l_> bkfitz: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/  most ram is just caches which can be sorted out without problems. if you dont know of things that will use your whole ram (like heavy photo/video work, or virtualizing etc) you wont need a swap
[18:59] <bkfitz> kil: i can see why swap is dangerous on an ssd though
[18:59] <McClein> i did it theadmin but i can't log in the external ip
[18:59] <bkfitz> kil: do plan to run winxp or maybe even windows 8(hate) in virtualbox
[18:59] <k1l_> bkfitz: keep in mind, that using swap comes back from the days when ram was 64MB and it was expensive as hell.
[18:59] <bekks> McClein: You cant do so when being in your LAN behind the router.
[19:00] <bekks> McClein: You have to test it from "outside".
[19:00] <kostkon> mrgt, ok, try this:  give:  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and in the last two lines replace the word "hardy" with "precise" and then save the file and close gedit
[19:00] <theadmin> McClein: This isn't really an Ubuntu question, though. Doubt anyone can help.
[19:00] <k1l_> bkfitz: the usecase of swap as reserve ram is not the same theese days. its getting slow as hell if your system needs to swap
[19:00] <bkfitz> kil: almost better to just have the OS wait for or borrow ram than to swap is what you are saying
[19:00] <McClein> thanks
[19:00] <bkfitz> kil: and if I don't have swp, then the os has no choice
[19:01] <mrgt> kostkon, done
[19:01] <kostkon> mrgt, after doing that, give again: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:01] <k1l_> bkfitz: i wouldnt recommend to use a swap. i would increase the ram if really needed
[19:01] <michealPW> How do I use dpkg-reconfigure? I tried dpkg-reconfigure kde-plasma-desktop but it's not working :\
[19:01] <bkfitz> kil: hmmm... just hate to get the whole thing installed, then find a reason to have it... guess I need to decide now if I want hibernate
[19:01] <michealPW> Do I have to remove --purge kde and reinstall it, I guess? :\
[19:02] <k1l_> bkfitz: you could always make a swap partition afterwards and put it into fstab
[19:02] <BluesKaj> bkfitz, http://digitizor.com/2011/02/06/create-swap-file-ubuntu-linux/ ..it's not a bad thiung to have a swap either partition or even a aswap file .
[19:03] <bkfitz> kil: good point again :)  I'll go with no swap for now and can always vi fstab :) thx again
[19:03] <DiegoFoca> anyone may help me ?
[19:03] <michealPW> WTH? I do apt-get remove kde-plasma-desktop
[19:03]  * BluesKaj shrugs
[19:04] <michealPW> ... And apt-get says it will remove kde-plasma-desktop but then install kde-plasma-netbook ... WTH is going on? I just want to reinstall KDE 'cause it's broken.
[19:04] <michealPW> :\
[19:04] <bkfitz> kil: do you know if 12.10 has TRIM enabled by default
[19:04] <jrib> michealPW: how is it broken?  Reinstalling won't likely change anything
[19:04] <BluesKaj> mic then install kubuntu-desktop
[19:04] <BluesKaj> michealPW,^
[19:04] <k1l_> bkfitz: sry dont know. installed a 11.10 back then and there i had to make it manually
[19:05] <michealPW> jrib: It seems to be totaly unresponsive when I log-in, then throws up errors but since it's unresponsive I can't really read them or submit their reports etc.
[19:05] <JessicaW> dr_willis: all better
[19:05] <michealPW> Nothing seems to work in KDE. I can't log-out, shutdown or anything LOL. I figure the session is broken? Iunno :\
[19:05] <jrib> michealPW: see if it happens with a fresh new user
[19:05] <michealPW> I honestly don't even know where KDE came from. It came with something in Ubuntu Software Center haha
[19:05] <michealPW> k, I'll try a new user brb
[19:06] <mrgt> kostkon, woop! It worked :)
[19:06] <mrgt> kostkon, thanks!
[19:06] <michealPW> I seem to have Edubuntu merged into this Ubuntu 12.04 system + GNOME 3 haha
[19:06] <michealPW> I think Edubuntu is what brought KDE.
[19:06] <kostkon> mrgt, nice! :)
[19:06] <michealPW> At first it replaced ligthdm with kdm but then I switched it back to lightdm
[19:06] <mrgt> kostkon, so what was it that was wrong?
[19:07] <luist> where do i get debhelper version 8 for lucid?? please i really need this asap!
[19:07] <glauco291> anyone knows a software like ConvertXtoDVD for Windows that I can convert and burn movies with menu ??
[19:07] <kostkon> mrgt, for some reason, you were using the repos from 8.04
[19:07] <mrgt> kostkon, weird..
[19:08] <dr_willis> glauco291:  devede work's for me
[19:09] <kostkon> mrgt, yes, indeed
[19:09] <dr_willis> luist:  use a ppa or source perhaps?
[19:10] <luist> dr_willis: ppa?
[19:10] <dr_willis> !ppa
[19:10] <ejo> Oops!  I accidentally typed 'dist-upgrade' instead of 'upgrade' and my system went through (and failed in multiple areas) a 12.04 to 12.10 upgrade... apparently.  At least that's what I'm guessing took place.  What's the best way to go back?
[19:10] <jrib> ejo: no it didn't.  dist-upgrade doesn't do that
[19:10] <ejo> ok, good to know.
[19:10] <dr_willis> :)
[19:11] <glauco291> guys
[19:11] <jrib> ejo: but umm, what failed exactly?
[19:11] <glauco291> I am getting this error: 'E:Type 'ain' is not known on line 3 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/webupd8team-sublime-text-2-precise.list'
[19:11] <ejo> in that case it just tried to update a bunch of stuff and now even my screen resolution is wrong.  I'd had no internet connection for 2 weeks while moving and suddenly had a ton of stuff to update
[19:11] <jrib> glauco291: you should look at that file
[19:11] <glauco291> I have copied sources.list from live cd
[19:11] <jrib> glauco291: pastebin that file
[19:11] <glauco291> I am with original sources.list
[19:12] <jrib> glauco291: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/webupd8team-sublime-text-2-precise.list is the relevant file
[19:12] <dr_willis> sources.list.d  glauco291 ...
[19:12] <ejo> I'm trying to figure out *exactly* what failed and it's quite a few things... dpkg for one failed, and every time I boot the display manager appears to be unable to identify my monitor.  Also, update manager fails and ubuntu is reporting spontaneous crashes here and there.  I had zero problems of any sort before this :(
[19:12] <dr_willis> look at the error.
[19:12] <glauco291> where I found this sources.list.d dr_willis?
[19:12] <jrib> ejo: you need to be more specific.  Pastebin the actual output you are seeing
[19:12] <glauco291> is it a service?
[19:13] <dr_willis> it gave the path in the error glauco291
[19:13] <jrib> glauco291: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/webupd8team-sublime-text-2-precise.list is a path.
[19:13] <ejo> jrib: thank you, I will if i get to that point.  I'm going to check my backups first then return.
[19:14] <genii-around> glauco291: What says result of: grep ain  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/webupd8team-sublime-text-2-precise.list
[19:14] <glauco291> I rm it
[19:14] <jrib> that's one way
[19:14] <gorbeh> Hi, I selected "force downgrade" in synaptic on nvidia current and now xorg gives me the error and wont start "api mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has version 304.37. but the NVIDIA driver component has version 295.40. I then removed / reinstalled nvidia-current at the command line but i still get this error. Can some one help?
[19:15] <glauco291> I dont know what happens, but I try install many software and get error while downloding
[19:15] <glauco291> I am not using a proxy
[19:15] <genii-around> gorbeh: Is it api or abi ?
[19:15] <glauco291> when I try update chrome for ie, I get: Failed to fetch http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/pool/main/g/google-chrome-stable/google-chrome-stable_22.0.1229.79-r158531_i386.deb 404  Not Found [IP: 74.125.229.161 80]
[19:15] <jrib> glauco291: well if you removed that .list file, then you should no longer get the error yu pasted
[19:16] <jrib> glauco291: run « sudo apt-get update » and make sure it completes without errors
[19:16] <gorbeh> genii-around: API
[19:16] <drag0nius> how would i start exec as root in background?
[19:16] <jrib> drag0nius: what exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[19:16] <drag0nius> start utorrent server without restarting ubuntu server
[19:16] <glauco291> Err http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main Sources                              404  Not Found  - Err http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main i386 Packages                          404  Not Found
[19:16] <zoktar> hello, id like to make a usb stick that has a few ubuntu flavors on it, like lubuntu/xubuntu for old laptops, and regular 12.04 & 12.10. would fit fine on a 4gb usb stick, but how would i go about making a premenu at boot time to select which installation disc to use ?.
[19:17] <TheLordOfTime> glauco291, for the PPA ones, that could mean those ones don't publish for Precise
[19:17] <glauco291> I got these errors jrib
[19:17] <genii-around> gorbeh: Do you have kernel headers for running kernel installed?
[19:17] <jrib> glauco291: so you likely have a ppa in your sources that no longer exists
[19:17] <drag0nius> nvm
[19:17] <dr_willis> running a torrent server as root  seems... odd
[19:17] <drag0nius> it just printed error and is working
[19:17] <drag0nius> thought it run in foreground
[19:18] <glauco291> how can I clean it jrib?
[19:18] <gorbeh> genii-around: I belive i saw them upgrade the other day with the kernel when all this broke, whats the package name?
[19:18] <jrib> glauco291: remove the ppa from your sources
[19:18] <genii-around> gorbeh: Varies on your kernel, but: apt-cache policy linux-headers-$(uname -r)        should say
[19:19] <dr_willis> zoktar:  pendrive linux site has tools to make such a thing
[19:19] <gorbeh> genii-around: yeah they are installed
[19:20] <n1> is there any GUI from within which I can install .deb files?
[19:20] <Mneumonic> gdebi
[19:21] <Eagleman> Why is this user unable to open port 9987 and 9988 for teamspeak, but it can open 10011 and 30033 su teamspeak -c "/opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start"  Root is able open open all ports
[19:21] <glauco291> from my /etc/apt/sources.list ??
[19:21] <n1> Mneumonic isn't it just the txt editor?
[19:21] <n1> Mneumonic thx
[19:21] <Mneumonic> n1, no GDebi is a graphical installer for .deb files
[19:22] <Mneumonic> n1, no prob!
[19:22] <duke> Hello everybody
[19:22] <zoktar> dr_willis, thanks
[19:23] <duke> if there is anybody available to at least point me in the right direction of drivers let me know
[19:23] <genii-around> gorbeh: Does: modprobe -l | grep nvidia       show any result?
[19:24] <duke> I got a problem with my video display seems borked
[19:24] <dr_willis> gdebi can work on the command line also. ;)
[19:24] <Eagleman> Why is this user unable to open port 9987 and 9988 for teamspeak, but it can open 10011 and 30033 su teamspeak -c "/opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start"  Root is able open open all ports
[19:25] <dr_willis> duke details of your video card will help..../
[19:26] <Eagleman> Unable to create virtualserver filetransfer internal directory : files
[19:26] <Eagleman> I do have rights on all folders and sub folders
[19:27] <ikonia> Eagleman: what are you talking about "open ports"
[19:27] <ikonia> a user doesn't "open ports"
[19:27] <Eagleman> I want to execute teamspeak as the user teamspeak
[19:27] <Eagleman> But it stops with the error: Unable to create virtualserver filetransfer internal directory : files
[19:28] <ikonia> Eagleman: please show me the command you are running
[19:28] <dr_willis> user ran apps can only access higher port range i recall./
[19:28] <Eagleman> su teamspeak -c "/opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start"
[19:28] <ikonia> Eagleman: that's su !
[19:28] <TheLordOfTime> Eagleman, i take it you cant just go to the user yourself and issue the command?
[19:28] <ikonia> Eagleman: that's not a user
[19:28] <jrib> dr_willis: it's 1024 and below that are reserved for root though
[19:28] <Eagleman> yes dr_willis it was 1023 or something but i am above that
[19:28] <Eagleman> i begin at 9987
[19:28] <dr_willis> yes. i thought that seemed odd
[19:28] <jrib> dr_willis: yeah maybe 1024 isn't included :P
[19:29] <ikonia> Eagleman: please type the following "su - teamspeak"
[19:29] <ikonia> Eagleman: what happens
[19:29] <TheLordOfTime> Eagleman, any reason you're running from /opt/ ?
[19:29] <Eagleman> i installed it there
[19:29] <TheLordOfTime> TS3 can run from a user folder, and not just from /opt/
[19:29] <TheLordOfTime> Eagleman, bad idea...
[19:29] <ikonia> TheLordOfTime: why does it matter ?
[19:29] <ikonia> TheLordOfTime: why is it bad to put it in /opt ?
[19:29] <TheLordOfTime> ikonia, TS3 writes to its own installation dir
[19:29] <Eagleman> su - teamspeak -c "/opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start"
[19:29] <Eagleman> No directory, logging in with HOME=/
[19:29] <ikonia> TheLordOfTime: so ? if he's installed it to /opy
[19:29] <TheLordOfTime> ikonia, if you install to /opt, unless the installed folder has ownership rights for the user he's running it as, it'll explode
[19:30] <TheLordOfTime> ikonia, i've run into this myself on occasion
[19:30] <Eagleman> TheLordOfTime the user teamspeak has all rights on that folder
[19:30] <ikonia> TheLordOfTime: if he's installed it to /opt, it should write to /opt, I don't see a problem with this
[19:30] <dr_willis> odd its in /opt/ and not like   /opt/teamspeak
[19:30] <ikonia> dr_willis: it's /opt/ts3
[19:30] <Eagleman> ./opt/ts3
[19:30]  * dr_willis squints at his phone
[19:31] <ikonia> Eagleman: so you are now the user "teamspeak" correct (you've done su - teamspeak)
[19:31] <Eagleman> ikonia it says No directory, logging in with HOME=/ with ur -
[19:31] <ikonia> Eagleman: please type the command "id" what do you see
[19:31] <zenmonkey_> on 12.04 are ubuntu and lubuntu installers the same?
[19:31] <Eagleman> su - teamspeak -c "/opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start"
[19:31] <ikonia> Eagleman: no
[19:31] <ikonia> Eagleman: please listen to what I'm telling you
[19:31] <Eagleman> teamspeak now
[19:31] <gordonjcp> zenmonkey_: yes
[19:31] <Eagleman> teamspeak@eagleman:/$
[19:31] <ikonia> Eagleman: please type "su - teamepeak"
[19:31] <Eagleman> i tought in the command
[19:32] <dr_willis> zenmonkey_:   lubuntu does install a different default kernel (and lubuntu) i recall
[19:32] <ikonia> Eagleman: there is no point in trying to help you if you are going to do what you think I want, rather than what I'm actually telling you
[19:32] <zenmonkey_> fine, and does it save a log from what's seen on the little terminal while installing? i would like to know where
[19:32] <Eagleman> I tought you meant in my command
[19:32] <Eagleman> And now?
[19:32] <ikonia> Eagleman: just type "su - teamspeak"
[19:32] <Eagleman> i did
[19:32] <dr_willis> zenmonkey_:  'whats seen?'
[19:33] <ikonia> Eagleman: now type "id" and show me what it says
[19:33] <Eagleman> uid=1002(teamspeak) gid=1002(teamspeak) groups=1002(teamspeak)
[19:33] <ikonia> Eagleman: ok, now "cd /opt/ts3"
[19:33] <Eagleman> done
[19:33] <ikonia> Eagleman: now "./ts3server_startscript.sh start"
[19:33] <ikonia> Eagleman: what happens
[19:33] <zenmonkey_> dr_willis: a critical error... :-O or should i ignore that?
[19:34] <Eagleman> the same
[19:34] <ikonia> Eagleman: no - TELL ME what happens not "the same"
[19:34] <ikonia> tell me what happens
[19:34] <ikonia> screw it
[19:34] <Eagleman> Starting the TeamSpeak 3 server
[19:34] <Eagleman> TeamSpeak 3 server started, for details please view the log file
[19:34] <dr_willis> zenmonkey_:  critical?  it does by so fast you dont see it?
[19:34] <Eagleman> same ports opened
[19:34] <Eagleman> not 9987 and 9988
[19:34] <Eagleman> unable to connect since they are the voice ports
[19:34] <ikonia> Eagleman: what are you talking about "same ports"
[19:35] <ikonia> Eagleman: that shows the teamspeak server has started
[19:35] <Eagleman> Yes but still not able to connect
[19:35] <Eagleman> since the ports 9987 and 9988 are not opened
[19:35] <ikonia> Eagleman: what do you mean "ports not open"
[19:35] <Eagleman> have you read what i typed in the beginning?
[19:35] <ikonia> Eagleman: yes, and it doesn't make sense
[19:35] <dr_willis> team speak needs 4 ports?
[19:35] <Eagleman> Why is this user unable to open port 9987 and 9988 for teamspeak, but it can open 10011 and 30033 su teamspeak -c "/opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start"  Root is able open open all ports
[19:36] <ikonia> which is why I'm asking
[19:36] <ikonia> Eagleman: typing the same thing that I've said "makes no sense" doesn't make it sensible suddenly
[19:36] <ikonia> Eagleman: 1.) have you checked the log file as the teamspeak startup says
[19:36] <BobMarley> hello, i have updated yesterday mu ubuntu 12.04 and my win xp partition have broken, i dont know if the problem is from the updates, but is here somebody to which have hapened the same thing????     when i bot the win xp , when apears that screen where show that the OS is loading, then at the first moment some blue screen flashes and the pc automatically rebots
[19:36] <Eagleman> i did
[19:36] <Eagleman> also said that
[19:36] <ikonia> Eagleman: ok, and what did the log file tell y ou
[19:36] <zenmonkey_> dr_willis: ** (ubiquity:3224): CRITICAL **: unable to create '/root/.cache/.dconf'; dconf will not work properly <<<<
[19:37] <ikonia> Eagleman: if you're not sure what the log file is telling you put it in a pastebin
[19:37] <zenmonkey_> dr_willis: but seems to be moving
[19:37] <ikonia> (don't paste it in the channel)
[19:38] <Eagleman> Why should i copy one line of text into pastebin?
[19:38] <ikonia> Eagleman: use common sense
[19:39] <NaZZaX> why do they call it a back port to me that implies your making something backwards compatible
[19:39] <javierf_> Hi! I have webapps in ubuntu. I didn't like the webapps all the time in my launcher, so I started saying to using some websites as webapps. Now, I've discovered there are other extra functions that I like, but I don't know how to revert my decision of denying webapps use of those websites. Is there a way no configure it? (didnt find it in google) thanks!
[19:39] <ikonia> NaZZaX: they are porting something backward
[19:39] <ikonia> NaZZaX: they are making newer software compatible with older versions
[19:39] <ikonia> so it's a "back port"
[19:39] <NaZZaX> ah ok so i was right ok
[19:39] <NaZZaX> thought i was nuts for a second
[19:39] <Eagleman> http://pastebin.com/6yJp0ZgA
[19:40] <Eagleman> netstat -tulpn | grep ts3   returns nothing
[19:40] <ikonia> Eagleman: because it's not running
[19:40] <dr_willis>  team spean faq seems to imply just 1 port is needed for voice.
[19:40] <ikonia> Eagleman: as the log file shows, it's stopped after it started
[19:40] <dr_willis> http://www.teamspeak.com/?page=faq&cat=server#server_ports
[19:40] <Eagleman> dr_willis i have 2 virtual servers running
[19:41] <Eagleman> 1 on 9987 and 1 on 9988
[19:41] <ikonia> Eagleman: in the teamspeak directory please show (in a pastebin) the output of "ls -la "
[19:41] <BluesKaj> BobMarley, http://pcsupport.about.com/od/termsr/p/recoveryconsole.htm , this is after you boot from the grub menu
[19:41] <Eagleman> http://pastebin.com/JTmcURCC
[19:41] <michealPW> hrmm
[19:41] <dr_willis> 'virtual'? ;) sounds like a real server to me
[19:41] <Eagleman> its one server which runs multiple instances
[19:42] <Eagleman> up to 10 with this free license
[19:42] <michealPW> jrib: So, I created a new account and logged-in to KDE.. Seems to work perfectly fine, LOL! Does this mean I can delete my ~/.kde directory for my account and it should fix it?
[19:42] <ikonia> Eagleman: why is "files" a symlink
[19:42] <ikonia> symlink
[19:42] <michealPW> I have nothing to backup, btw.
[19:42] <orated> Hello! Is there a way to find if a partition is encrypted or not?
[19:42] <Eagleman> becuase i have my files on my harddisk
[19:42] <ikonia> Eagleman: ls -la /media/harddisks/data/downloads/teamspeak/
[19:42] <ikonia> Eagleman: (again in a pastebin)
[19:42] <dr_willis> michealPW:  or just rename it. thats a little safer
[19:42] <jrib> michealPW: something like that (could be different settings), yeah.  ~/.xsession-errors in the problematic user's home might have further hints
[19:42] <Eagleman> http://pastebin.com/Pu9Np9Fp
[19:42] <Eagleman> u used chown -R if you wanted to know
[19:43] <ikonia> Eagleman: there you go
[19:43] <ikonia> Eagleman: no permissions
[19:43] <michealPW> Hrmm, alright, thx jrib and dr_willis! :)
[19:43] <michealPW> brb
[19:43] <Eagleman> the user teamspeak has permissions?
[19:43] <ikonia> Eagleman: 2.drwxrwx---  5 jrpoot    jrpoot    4096 Sep 19 11:11 .
[19:43] <ikonia> Eagleman: no it doesn't
[19:44] <Eagleman> Now it should :S
[19:44] <Eagleman> drwxrwx---  5 teamspeak teamspeak 4096 Sep 19 11:11 teamspeak
[19:45] <Eagleman> Hmm i have no idea how that could have happend, isnt it better to mount the files directory in the ts3 folder instead os symlinking?
[19:45] <ikonia> Eagleman mount the files ?? what ?
[19:46] <Eagleman> Like this:   /home/jrpoot/website /var/www/jrpoot.eu                                 auto    bind                    0       0
[19:46] <soverc> how would I go about upgrading apache to 2.2.23 in 12.04 ?
[19:46] <ikonia> Eagleman: why don't you just put the files in /opt/ts3 - like a normal install
[19:46] <ikonia> soverc: you can only upgrade the package if ubuntu releases an upgrade package
[19:46] <Eagleman> becuase ts3 is running on a SSD and some files in the files folder are big
[19:46] <ikonia> soverc: why do you want to upgrade ?
[19:46] <michealPW> xsession-errors just seems to be a few warnings from this current log-in but xsession-errors.old is big and full of errors from all over the place :\
[19:46] <Eagleman> Its only a 64GB SSD
[19:46] <ikonia> Eagleman: then you should plan your space better
[19:47] <Eagleman> I am?
[19:47] <soverc> due to a lci audit for someone they need to be at 2.2.23 or higher
[19:47] <michealPW> Nautilus and something called zeitgeist (WTH??) and gconf errors
[19:47] <soverc> lic=pci
[19:47] <Eagleman> What could be better then?
[19:47] <ikonia> soverc: please make them aware of the patches and security backports included in the apache package,
[19:47] <cmatheson> i upgraded to quantal and i can't use empathy anymore.  it seems like i'm missing ubuntu-online-accounts (there is only gnome's online accounts stuff in my control panel), what package do i need to install to get that?
[19:47] <ikonia> soverc: the versionnumber is not really the "magic" number here
[19:48] <soverc> yep, I know would have been the easiest to handle tho.    Thanks
[19:48] <ikonia> Eagleman: putting space in the correct diectory to allow you to use applications
[19:48] <ikonia> soverc: I've gone through this with many pci complience processes and never had a problem once you explain it
[19:48] <Eagleman> Hmm isnt a symlink easier then?
[19:48] <ikonia> Eagleman: manage your space as you see fit
[19:48] <Eagleman> I cant plan space when still trying out things
[19:49] <Eagleman> Ok, well thanks, i also want to run it from rc.local with this command: su teamspeak -c "/opt/ts3/ts3server_startscript.sh start"
[19:49] <ikonia> Eagleman: yes, you've already said that, approx 5 times
[19:49] <Eagleman> Should i use su or su - ?
[19:49] <michealPW> My xsession-errors is packed with cryptic errors from seemingly-random programs :\
[19:50] <ikonia> Eagleman: up to you, depends how you've set the users enviornmetns and if that has any effect on ts3
[19:50] <Eagleman> On default
[19:50] <ikonia> "on default"?
[19:50] <ikonia> what
[19:50] <Eagleman> Havent changed anything about it
[19:51] <ikonia> that doesn't mean anything
[19:51] <ikonia> Eagleman: up to you, - will source the users enviornment no - won't
[19:51] <Eagleman> what is a "user enviroment" ?
[19:51] <ikonia> the users environment, shell parameters etc
[19:52] <Eagleman> like changing vi to vim ?
[19:52] <truexfan81> what would cause my titlebars to disappear when a window is maximized?
[19:52] <ikonia> Eagleman: you just said you'd changed nothing
[19:52] <Eagleman> i was giving an example
[19:52] <ikonia> Eagleman: well it depends on how you change it
[19:53] <Eagleman> Havent changed any of that stuff at home
[19:53] <ikonia> I know, you've said that
[19:53] <Eagleman> Good
[19:53] <janni> Eagleman: usually more environment variables
[19:54] <michealPW> dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1281837/
[19:54] <Eagleman> il stick with - then
[19:54] <crazyharry> how can I force delete all files of a certain type, its always asking for confirmation to delete, I also tried sudo ....I am using this sudo find . -name *.tar.bz2 -exec file {} \; -exec rm -i {} \;
[19:54] <michealPW> What do you think of that? :\
[19:54] <michealPW> The other one is huge and probably not useful to you, I can pastebinit too if you want?
[19:56] <Eagleman> I am also using some other stuff for teamspeak, this is what my rc.local looks like:  http://pastebin.com/ztGYYW27
[19:56] <maradona> ciao
[19:56] <maradona> !list
[19:56] <crazyharry> I guess I have to remote the i
[19:56] <Eagleman> teamspeak is giving some problems with the .pid file when the server crashes, the user teamspeak does not have rights on them becuase it is generated by the root user
[19:57] <rachelfish> Is there any way to restart a pcmcia card?
[19:57] <bkfitz> Question: just installed 12.10 beta2 but don't like unity... ran apt-get install gnome-session-fallback but I can only click on the 2d version during login???
[19:58] <bekks> rachelfish: Pull it, place it back in.
[19:58] <rachelfish> bekks: That doesn't work
[19:58] <rachelfish> It doesn't reinitialize
[19:58] <rachelfish> It has a status light which just stays on
[19:58] <dr_willis> bkfitz:  12.10 in #ubuntu+1  please
[19:58] <rachelfish> as if it's recieving power but not transmitting any data
[19:58] <bekks> rachelfish: Even if you pull it out? :)
[19:58] <jbohren>  bkfitz: if you want something similar to Gnome2, I'd suggest Xubuntu
[19:59] <jbohren> you can install it as an option via apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[20:02] <dr_willis> im prone to lubuntu for old-skool type desktop needs. ;)
[20:02] <DonM> Hi! I've got a problem with Evolution calendar. Is this the right channel?
[20:03] <michealPW> Yay!
[20:03] <michealPW> KDE is fixed. I renamed my ~/.kde and logged in hehe
[20:04] <dr_willis> michealPW:  and a 30 sec fix only took you..... ;P
[20:04] <rachelfish> Dear #ubuntu, thank you for not being any help at all
[20:04] <kristjan_> command line tool to extract the content of .elf file?
[20:04] <Guddu> rachelfish, ???
[20:04] <rachelfish> The answer was: cat /proc/modules | grep pcmcia
[20:04] <dr_willis> if no one knows..  no one knows rachelfish
[20:04] <kcxzero> DonM: If you're running Ubuntu, yes. State your problem and ask your question. Someone may be able to help
[20:04] <rachelfish> I fixed it myself you useless JEKS
[20:04] <rachelfish> JERKS
[20:04] <rachelfish> :3
[20:05] <Eagleman> How nice
[20:05] <dr_willis> i dont see how catting a file fixes stuff
[20:05] <mbalmer> rachelfish, what was your problem?
[20:05] <rachelfish> It does because it showed me what to rmmod and modprobe :D
[20:05] <Guddu> rachelfish, Good for you :-)
[20:06] <ikonia> ?
[20:06] <DonM> I'm running 10.04. I pulled down the little calendar, double clicked on today, and everything was erased. I have a system backup but cannot find a calendar to restore. Any suggestions?
[20:06] <rachelfish> My problem was, my bluetooth card is a piece of crap and if I walk out of range it has a 50:50 chance of not working when I come back
[20:06] <rachelfish> I can't pair any new devices, or connect to any existing ones
[20:06] <mbalmer> ok, I see.
[20:06] <rachelfish> unplugging the pcmcia card physically didn't fix it either
[20:06]  * dr_willis  closes the ticker
[20:07] <dr_willis> ticket
[20:07] <rachelfish> I'd have to wait until my computer restarted to fix it
[20:07] <rachelfish> but now I can just rmmod yenta_socket
[20:07] <rachelfish> ^__^
[20:08] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Hello!
[20:08] <Hishamoto_Masuki> I need help with computer!
[20:08] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Haha, just kidding. I'm fully fluent in English. xD
[20:08] <Hishamoto_Masuki> I do have  a huge problem though.
[20:08] <ikonia> Hishamoto_Masuki: please stop messing around
[20:08] <k1l> !ask | Hishamoto_Masuki
[20:08] <Eagleman> Is there something like dropbox that you can host urself?, all i can do now is use samba like dropbox, but samba ports are blocked and are forcing me to use openvpn
[20:09] <Eagleman> which is really slow, and takes more effort
[20:09] <k1l> Eagleman: owncloud
[20:09] <mbalmer> scp
[20:09] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Okay, my problem is: For anyone familiar with Xubuntu, it has a two taskbars-at the top and bottom. They disappeared and now I have nothing but a desktop. How do I get them back?
[20:09] <k1l> yeah, and scp over the ssh
[20:09] <Eagleman> lol
[20:10] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Hello?
[20:10] <mbalmer> lol over the ssh
[20:10] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Uhh
[20:10] <dr_willis> Hishamoto_Masuki:  you may want to check in #xubuntu i think the command 'xfpanel' may restart them
[20:10] <michealPW> dr_willis: LOL a 30 sec fix took me at least 30 minutes fighting with KDE until I gave up :(
[20:10] <michealPW> And came here LOL
[20:11] <Hishamoto_Masuki> All right, one second
[20:11] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Command not found, it says.
[20:11] <dr_willis> try tab commpletion Hishamoto_Masuki  it may be osmthing close to xfpan*
[20:11] <systems> how do i access terminal from serial port on an ubuntu server??
[20:11] <systems> how do i access terminal from serial port on an ubuntu server??
[20:11] <Eagleman> !repeat
[20:12] <xangua> Hishamoto_Masuki: the comands has to be: xfce4-panel  if i recall
[20:12] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Tab completion?
[20:12] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Oh.
[20:12] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Okay, one second
[20:12] <dr_willis> systems:  you span a getty session to the serial port
[20:12] <dr_willis> spawn
[20:12] <Hishamoto_Masuki> It worked!
[20:12] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Thank you all so much, how are you so good at computers?!
[20:12] <mbalmer> we athe cpus!
[20:12] <dr_willis> been years since i had a serial terminaal. ;)
[20:13] <dr_willis> no need to msg   me systems
[20:13] <systems> ok
[20:13] <systems> dr willis
[20:13] <DonM> ubottu: thanks. I've tried the forums without luck.
[20:14] <systems> I'm trying to access an ubuntu server via terminal, how do i enable to port and have an active session with the server from a windows machine running putty
[20:14] <Eagleman> ty k1l
[20:14] <dr_willis> systems:  you install the ssh server and connect via putty...
[20:15] <dr_willis> thats not a 'serial terminal'
[20:15] <italomaia> Folks, hi. Is it possible to remove a ubuntu group by it's id?
[20:15] <italomaia> I have a group with no name here
[20:15] <Hishamoto_Masuki> It's me again, another problem.
[20:15] <Hishamoto_Masuki> When I do xfce4-panel, it works.
[20:15] <Hishamoto_Masuki> But
[20:16] <Hishamoto_Masuki> When I close out terminal, so do the panels.
[20:16] <bekks> italomaia: Then it does not exist. All you have are the references to the group id.
[20:16] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Help?
[20:16] <kcxzero> Hishamoto_Masuki,  Alt+F2
[20:16] <Hishamoto_Masuki> o.o
[20:16] <bekks> italomaia: And yes, you can remove files belonging to a specific group.
[20:16] <italomaia> bekks: probably, but I get a error msg in my console becauise of it
[20:16] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Whoa.
[20:16] <bekks> italomaia: Which error...?
[20:16] <Hishamoto_Masuki> You people are genius.
[20:16] <Hishamoto_Masuki> Thanks, Kcxzero.
[20:16] <kcxzero> np
[20:17] <systems> we did that dr_willis, we need the console the log in, we need to log in though the console?
[20:17] <italomaia> bekks: it wasn't possible to to find the name for the group ID 1001
[20:17] <bekks> italomaia: Because the group does not exist.
[20:17] <Deindre> JoseeAntonioR:  hi!
[20:17] <bekks> italomaia: Thats what I just told you :)
[20:17] <Aosuke> Yo!
[20:17] <italomaia> yeah, but I want to remove the msg
[20:17] <italomaia> if I type groups
[20:17] <JoseeAntonioR> hey Deindre! Can we have a chat at #ubuntu-classroom-backstage? :)
[20:17] <bekks> italomaia: Which message...?
[20:18] <bekks> italomaia: Please provide the detailed message.
[20:18] <michealPW> Hrmm!
[20:18] <dr_willis> systems:  somthings confuseing here.. you install ssh. you use putty to connect to the ssh server.. you get a terminal session....  you login
[20:18] <Deindre> JoseeAntonioR: of course :)
[20:18] <ealeon> user
[20:18] <ealeon> asd
[20:18] <michealPW> Alright... So KDE is fixed however now I'm right back at square one today... Trying to get Caffeine to start in GNOME and Unity but NOT KDE :\
[20:18] <italomaia> bekks: the message is in portuguese
[20:18] <italomaia> does it works for you?
[20:18] <michealPW> Since Caffeine doesn't seem to support KDE.
[20:18] <mbalmer> mais uma caneca
[20:18] <italomaia> bekks: groups: não foi possível encontrar o nome para a ID de grupo 1001
[20:19] <bekks> italomaia: Nope :) Try: LANG=C groups
[20:19] <italomaia> italomaia adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare groups: cannot find name for group ID 1001 1001
[20:19] <dr_willis> michealPW:  ive seen very few apps that wouldent work in kde or gnome... cant think of any that have had issues
[20:19] <systems> I'm sorry maybe I'm not asking correct how to login remotely to the unbutu server via serial port
[20:20] <bekks> italomaia: then logout completely and log back in.
[20:20] <italomaia> bekks: ok, minute
[20:20] <dr_willis> systems:  a serial cable.. is totally different from a 'ssh' connection. im not sure putty works as a 'serial terminal'
[20:21] <bekks> dr_willis: systems: putty works as a serial console, too.
[20:21] <michealPW> dr_willis: Well it's not a compatibility problem like that. Caffeine just simply doesn't do anything on KDE. Caffeine's a small little program that will detect if Flash is running Fullscreen and if so it disabled the gnome-screensaver. Problem with KDE 4 is they've integrated the screensaver directly into the plasma-desktop or kdesktop or whatever they're calling it today.
[20:21] <dr_willis> systems:  so what physical hardware are you using
[20:21] <bekks> systems: But you have to explicitely configure putty to do so.
[20:21] <michealPW> dr_willis: So, Caffeine runs but it doesn't do anything. It can't suspend the KDE screensaver. Not having it start at all if KDE launches would be ideal, I think.
[20:21] <michealPW> PuTTY is the best SSH client for Windows :)
[20:22] <ealeon> what information can people find out about me?
[20:22] <trism> michealPW: I think jrib's idea from earlier is probably best, have a script that starts, checks if the session is kde and returns, otherwise runs caffeine
[20:22] <dr_willis> ealeon:  huh?
[20:22] <ealeon> cant you like do whois on me and find out where i live and stuff?
[20:22] <michealPW> Ah, so instead of directly launching Caffeine, I launch a little wrapper script that checks the environment first?
[20:22] <michealPW> Hrmm!
[20:22] <michealPW> That would probably be the most ideal solution, perhaps :\
[20:22] <dr_willis> ealeon:  try /whois yournick   and see
[20:23] <linuxtech> What is the best ssh client for android?  Or can I just run Ubuntu in a VM or something?
[20:23] <ealeon> it doesnt work
[20:23] <ealeon> whois ealeon
[20:23] <bekks> ealeon: You missed the "/" in front.
[20:23] <italomaia_> bekks: thanks! It worked.
[20:23] <dr_willis> linuxtech:  one of the 'connectbot' programs.
[20:23] <ealeon> i cant do / cuz i m using irssi
[20:23] <vvpalin> ealeon, not planning on shooting spree anytime soon i hope
[20:23] <bekks> ealeon: You can. I can do it too, on irssi.
[20:23] <ealeon> i did on it and it shows me nothing
[20:24] <bekks> ealeon: Then change to window no. 1
[20:24] <dr_willis> look in the status window
[20:24] <vvpalin> oh wait that was another one
[20:24]  * vvpalin feels dumb now :( 
[20:24] <ealeon> i forget how do i change window
[20:24] <michealPW> Should I be using iBus for my keyboard input? :\
[20:24] <bekks> ealeon: ctrl+a+NoOfWindow
[20:25] <michealPW> It's in the keyboard/mouse options in KDE as "Keyboard Input Method" and it's a dropdown list that at first had nothing selected.. So I selected iBus hehe
[20:25] <michealPW> Should I just leave it blank hehe?
[20:25] <dr_willis> michealPW:  was it working?
[20:25] <trism> michealPW: you probably don't need ibus unless you are typing in a CJK language
[20:25] <ealeon> okayy it workd!
[20:25] <michealPW> It was working before. Seems to be working now, too, but now there's a little iBus tray icon (rofl)
[20:25] <michealPW> Ahh, I see thx trism.
[20:26] <systems> dr_willis
[20:26] <systems> we got it
[20:26] <systems> thanks
[20:26] <ealeon> Edwurd Warkentin?
[20:26] <ealeon> Edwurd Warkentin!
[20:27] <ujee> Hi!  I upgraded to Quantal already and I can't switch VTs anymore - any clue what that might be?
[20:27] <michealPW> I can't even find where I set that option now haha
[20:27] <michealPW> It was a window taht popped up when I first logged-in to KDE.
[20:27] <wilee-nilee> !12.10 > ujee
[20:28] <michealPW> Said my language was incomplete or something. Meh
[20:28] <shwaiil> Q: I've got a Killer Wireless-N 1102 (Atheos 9xxx), it's not supported in Ubuntu (Lot's of drop connections, slow, etc). I've been trying different tips around forums etc, got better 12.10 but it's not stable. I'm thinking about getting a new wireless. This is a Clevo so I can substitute myself. I'm wondering if the Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 is supported ? If not wish one should I get (attention this is internal wireless not usb
[20:28] <doomlord> does unity have an option for 'scale' to show all windows from all desktops
[20:28] <wilee-nilee> !12.10 > shwaiil
[20:28] <ujee> wilee-nilee, okay...  #ubuntu+ or #ubuntu+1 ?  and why that crazy name?
[20:28] <fengshaun> hi all, I just installed slim DM and set it to default and now ubuntu doesn't boot!
[20:28] <fengshaun> and it doesn't give me any errors either
[20:28] <Eagleman> k1l their installation manual is a bit weird: http://owncloud.org/support/install/  I dont even have the folder install or data
[20:29] <wilee-nilee> ujee, 12.10 is on #ubuntu+1 until release
[20:29] <fengshaun> it just stay at the plymouth dot dot dot animation forever
[20:29] <ealeon> why cant i nmap ppl's ip addr here?
[20:29] <fengshaun> how can I revert back to lightdm or find out what went wrong>
[20:29] <fengshaun> ?*
[20:29] <ujee> wilee-nilee, thanks
[20:29] <gordonjcp> ealeon: because it's rude
[20:29] <gordonjcp> ealeon: and depending on where you are, illegal
[20:29] <ealeon> just for fun
[20:29] <ealeon> no malicious intent
[20:30] <doomlord> [2] can unity'expo' be setup so that a single click activates a desktop (single click= pick desktop, drag=move window)
[20:30] <gordonjcp> ealeon: then you should ask permission, first
[20:30] <ealeon> its just a few packets. not like syn flood
[20:30] <shwaiil> wilee-nilee: sorry I ment 12.04 :X
[20:30] <michealPW> fengshaun: While it's at that screen you can press Ctrl+Alt+F1 to switch to virtual terminal 1. Then log-in to your account and use sudo vim /etc/X11/default-display-manager to manually set it back to lightdm
[20:30] <gordonjcp> ealeon: doesn't matter, if you're going to poke at people's computers you should ask
[20:30] <shwaiil> hrrr
[20:30] <mrgt> is this the best place to ask about installing 12.10 beta 2?
[20:30] <michealPW> It's /usr/bin/lightdm I think
[20:30] <shwaiil> I'll reformulate
[20:30] <ealeon> gordonjcp: okay sorry
[20:30] <wilee-nilee> shwaiil, cool.
[20:30] <gordonjcp> mrgt: #ubuntu+1
[20:30] <truexfan81> is there a way to unlock resolutions on a netbook in linux?
[20:31] <shwaiil> Q: I've got a Killer Wireless-N 1102 (Atheos 9xxx), it's not supported in Ubuntu (Lot's of drop connections, slow, etc). I've been trying different tips around forums etc, got better 12.04 but it's not stable. I'm thinking about getting a new wireless. This is a Clevo so I can substitute myself. I'm wondering if the Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 is supported ? If not wish one should I get (attention this is internal wireless not usb
[20:31] <fengshaun> michealPW: thanks a lot!
[20:31] <truexfan81> this netbook has intel graphics
[20:31] <fengshaun> man, this channel is busy
[20:31] <fengshaun> I'll restart then
[20:31] <michealPW> fengshaun: No problem. I think there's an easier way to do it than that but I'm not sure. That's the manual way but it works :P
[20:31] <trism> fengshaun: the other way is: sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm;
[20:32] <michealPW> (rofl) trism. Show off :P
[20:32] <fengshaun> michealPW: manual way is fine, I don't like magic! :D
[20:32] <trism> fengshaun: does the same thing though, just gives you a menu
[20:32] <fengshaun> trism: or that, thanks
[20:32] <fengshaun> michealPW: is default-display-manager a symlink or just a file to be read?
[20:32] <wilee-nilee> truexfan81, You want to name the hardware exactly, and describe the problem in detail for help, all in the form of a question. ;)
[20:33] <fengshaun> I'll be back after trying
[20:33] <michealPW> fengshaun: Its just a text file. I don't think it's a symlink
[20:33] <truexfan81> that will be a very long question but ok here goes
[20:34] <wilee-nilee> truexfan81, Then pastebin it
[20:34] <michealPW> I think it's an actual text file. It just contains the fully-qualified pathname to your login-manager, or desktop manager or whatever it's called. It should have something like /usr/bin/slimdm right now. You'll change it to /usr/bin/lightdm
[20:34] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin > truexfan81
[20:35] <mrgt> Trying to upgrade to 12.10 but get this error: An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade:
[20:35] <mrgt> The package 'kubuntu-desktop' is marked for removal but it is in the removal blacklist.
[20:35] <truexfan81> how can i unlock resolutions in 12.04 on my acer aoa150 netbook, with intel Mobile 9456E graphics and nouveau driver?
[20:35] <truexfan81> ok that wasn't so long
[20:35] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[20:36] <ealeon> so whats a good show on netflix
[20:36] <michealPW> Maybe I'll try and disable this KDE screensaver and install xscreensaver :\
[20:36] <michealPW> Might solve my problem all together hehe!
[20:37] <wilee-nilee> ealeon, Netflix does not play on any linux other then android, off topic
[20:37] <michealPW> Wow really wilee-nilee?! That's good to know..
[20:37] <ealeon> it plays on my ubuntu :)
[20:37] <gatuus> wilee-nilee: not even on explorer with wine
[20:37] <michealPW> Me and my wife have been debating whether or not to sign-up for Netflix :\
[20:37] <ealeon> Netflix or Amazon Prime
[20:38] <ealeon> which is better
[20:38] <wilee-nilee> ealeon, In wine yes, but still offtopic
[20:38] <michealPW> Oh god I wouldn't buy then.
[20:38] <michealPW> I refuse to buy things that have to be run in WINE hehe.
[20:38] <john_doe_jr> I downloaded from source….I've got a autogen.sh etc…how do I go about installing source after downloading from source?
[20:39] <michealPW> Usually you would use make to install (make && make install)
[20:39] <wilee-nilee> john_doe_jr, Did you check the repos first?
[20:39] <ealeon> you dont have to have netflix for your linux. you can have ps3 or any tablets
[20:39] <michealPW> Ultimately you should install from repository...
[20:39] <michealPW> Using apt-get ;)
[20:39] <michealPW> As they tell me all the time... If I'm compiling from source, I'm doing it wrong :P
[20:39] <michealPW> (giggles)
[20:39] <wilee-nilee> ealeon, Dude this is support not comments.
[20:39] <fengshaun> michealPW: Ctrl-Alt-F# doesn't work!  Doesn't do anything!
[20:40] <Aerosonic> Hey guys. This is kind-of relevant to all of you, because I seed a lot of Ubuntu images on my server.
[20:40] <john_doe_jr> wilee-nilee: good point…let me do that
[20:40] <Aerosonic> So there's a bit of a problem I need solving. So there are 354 torrents in my uTorrent client and 466 files in the Downloads folder. Is there a way to easily identify which files are not *in* the uTorrent client without going through them manually?
[20:40] <michealPW> fengshaun: Really? That's weird! It's supposed to switch to a different virtual terminal, whichever numbr you specify :|
[20:40] <fengshaun> michealPW: yeah, but nope, nothing!
[20:40] <michealPW> Aerosonic: Right, well you should try to goto a uTorrent support channel and not a Ubuntu support? ;)
[20:40] <fengshaun> is there a way to view the output of the boot process?
[20:41] <john_doe_jr> wilee-nilee: this is where the source is from…https://code.launchpad.net/~csights/+junk/simias  ….I don't see any instructions on how to install it
[20:41] <Aerosonic> michealPW: Well, you guys are smart. You might figure something out, I'm sure.
[20:41] <michealPW> That's besides the point :P
[20:42] <ealeon> can i "yum install" on ubuntu or is that just for fedora
[20:42] <Skeeter-> it there anyway to emulate an usb keyboard to bluetoth keyboard?
[20:42] <wilee-nilee> john_doe_jr, I would be concerned with these dates  2010-04-25 and last modified on 2011-10-24
[20:43] <ThinkT510> !apt-get | ealeon
[20:43] <john_doe_jr> wilee-nilee: true but I want to test this software out ….I know you need to run a ./configure command but all I see is a ./configure.in command
[20:44] <fengshaun> does anyone know how I can view the output of the boot process rather than the pretty plymouth splash?
[20:44] <michealPW> I miss yum...
[20:44] <michealPW> yum > *
[20:44] <michealPW> HEEEHEE I'll probably get all the debian zealots riled up with that comment :P
[20:44] <ThinkT510> !text | fengshaun
[20:44] <ealeon> how do i determine which linux fits me w/o trying each one of them
[20:45] <ikonia> ealeon research
[20:45] <ThinkT510> ealeon: we don't know what you want/like
[20:45] <ealeon> but i dont know what i want/like
[20:45] <michealPW> ealeon: You can't. You have you try all of them... At least in a virtual machine :P
[20:45] <michealPW> Nobody can say.. "ealeon, you will like distro X.." hehe
[20:45] <michealPW> except for ealeon :P
[20:45] <fengshaun> ThinkT510: thanks, how about if I installed ubuntu with wubi?
[20:45] <ThinkT510> fengshaun: i've never used wubi
[20:46] <fengshaun> ThinkT510: I wish I hadn't
[20:46] <ealeon> you tell me.. i like Ubuntun over everything because <fill in comment here>
[20:46] <ikonia> ealeon: no
[20:46] <michealPW> In 2012 I tried Fedora 17 (Beefy Miracle,) Debian 6.0.5 (Squeeze) Kubuntu (Precise) and then finally settled with Ubuntu (Precise) but I installed GNOME 3 (Fedora) and KDE (Kubuntu) on my Ubuntu system...
[20:46] <ikonia> ealeon: this isn't a "poll" channel
[20:46] <michealPW> So I can start Ubuntu and type my password, then select whichever desktop I want heehee!
[20:46] <grogoreo> hi
[20:46] <grogoreo> I've installed libreoffice again today but it won't pick up misspelled words and just says spellcheck complete. Any ideas why?
[20:47] <ealeon> anyone using pcl on ubuntu?
[20:47] <exe> have u tried f7 ?
[20:47] <ealeon> cuz i need help
[20:47] <michealPW> ealeon: Every system was great... Fedora 17's great. Debian Squeeze is rock solid.. Kubuntu is pretty.. Ubuntu is brilliantly clean and useful... It's impossible to say which one you will want.
[20:48] <ikonia> pc1 ?
[20:48] <ealeon> point cloud library
[20:48] <jbohren> ikonia: PCL
[20:48] <michealPW> exe: f7? :\
[20:48] <ikonia> don't know what pcl is
[20:48] <jbohren> ealeon: are you trying to use it with or without ROS?
[20:48] <ealeon> trying to use it with Kinect and openNI
[20:48] <XXXevensisXXX> hi
[20:48] <XXXevensisXXX> is here an german people ?
[20:49] <exe> f7 for the spell checking @michaelPM
[20:49] <XXXevensisXXX> hallo =
[20:49] <XXXevensisXXX> ?
[20:49] <jbohren> ealeon: best to go here for help http://www.pcl-users.org/
[20:49] <ealeon> okay thank you
[20:49] <k1l> XXXevensisXXX: geh mal nach #ubuntu-de
[20:49] <XXXevensisXXX> danke
[20:49] <ealeon> ich liebe dich
[20:49] <XXXevensisXXX> iih :DDD
[20:50] <michealPW> f7 pulls up a quick-connect on Konversation
[20:50] <BobMarley> BluesKaj, thank for the link:: , http://pcsupport.about.com/od/termsr/p/recoveryconsole.htm , this is after you boot from the grub menu
[20:50] <michealPW> nvm. For libreOffice :P
[20:50] <exe> yep ^^
[20:50] <michealPW> I thought maybe it was some system-wide spell checker, that would rox
[20:50] <michealPW> LOL
[20:53] <ealeon> are we allowed to talk about obama vs romney on here?
[20:53] <michealPW> No...
[20:53] <michealPW> Please, PLEASE no..
[20:53] <fidel_> !ot
[20:53] <ealeon> ok
[20:53] <michealPW> They're both deadbeat losers, how's that? Discussion over :P
[20:53] <michealPW> (rofl)
[20:53] <ealeon> :o
[20:53] <michealPW> I shouldn't have even said that, probably, I apologize :P
[20:53] <michealPW> BBL when the politics goes away
[20:54] <vivid> any idea when nvidia 310 will hit the experimental package for precise?
[20:54] <gordonjcp> ealeon: a quick google suggests that they are politicians of some sort, so no
[20:54] <gordonjcp> ealeon: and not in #u-ot either
[20:56] <belgianguy> I have a site running on localhost (Apache), but now I want to update the package, and it asks for FTP access
[20:56] <belgianguy> how should I approach this?
[20:57] <grogoreo> belgianguy, how are you updating?
[20:58] <john_rambo> When I amtrying to modify network connections via network manager Xubuntu is not asking for password is this normal ? It used to ask for password before iirc
[21:04] <belgianguy> dang, missed it :/
[21:04] <ealeon> ?
[21:04] <belgianguy> I'm updating through the webconsole
[21:04] <ealeon> im cold
[21:05] <belgianguy> ealeon: invest in AMD CPUs ;)
[21:05] <ealeon> on irssi, whats the command to see all the users in the channel?
[21:05] <ealeon> no i have SSD so it wont get heat up
[21:05] <ElixirVitae> Hi!
[21:05] <ElixirVitae> Why are the updates related to linux kernel are held back?
[21:06] <addies> if its too cold in your room, you haven't oc'd you computer enough
[21:06] <OerHeks> ElixirVitae, please pastebin the complete error
[21:07] <ealeon> I have question. i have 12.04 ubuntu and every tab is merged on to the top
[21:07] <ealeon> how can i sepearte the menu tabs
[21:07] <k1l> ElixirVitae: apt-get doesnt install new packages with the upgrade command. use dist-upgrade for that (no it wont upgrade the ubuntu to the next version)
[21:07] <Kostis> Hello. I am having a problem.
[21:07] <ealeon> like the tab is on the gray part...
[21:07] <ElixirVitae> It won't upgrade to next version?
[21:08] <ealeon> its quite annoying and how do i fix that?
[21:08] <k1l> ElixirVitae: apt-get dist-upgrade is not a 12.04 to 12,10 upgrade. thats what i meant
[21:08] <OerHeks> ElixirVitae, no, i got a fresh kernel the day before yesterday, so there must be something else going on
[21:08] <MonkeyDust> ealeon  type /names
[21:09] <OerHeks> k1l, i didn't read dist-upgrade anywere
[21:10] <k1l> OerHeks: a simple apt-get upgrade wont get you a new kernel
[21:11] <Kostis> I am having a problem with the Ubuntu Software Center, i want to delete a review, I have normally logged in , in the Ubuntu Software center and I can't see any button saying "Delete" , I am 99% sure I am on the correct account at Ubuntu software center  , since my account's name and the review has the exactly same name (is it possible in two different accounts to have the same Real name?).
[21:11] <k1l> OerHeks: that is causing a held back information
[21:11] <OerHeks> k1l,  yes it does.
[21:11] <Kostis> But in the Ubuntu software center It seems like It's not me , It does not even say " (that's you) " and I have written that review at 2011-5-25
[21:11] <Kostis> Any help?
[21:11] <ealeon> anyone know what i am talkin about  12.04 ubuntu? any application that are running has the menu tab on the top; how do you get rid of that?
[21:12] <OerHeks> ealeon, seach for global-menu, that seperates the menu from your app-window
[21:13] <ElixirVitae> What about update manager, why does it not classify updates as apt-get does, I thought it was GUI for apt-get
[21:13] <ealeon> search global-menu from where?
[21:13] <k1l> ElixirVitae: it handles the update, upgrade and dist-upgrade in another way.
[21:14] <k1l> ElixirVitae: "easier" for the user
[21:14] <OerHeks> ealeon, lots of blogs about global menu > http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/disable-the-global-menu-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[21:15] <ealeon> ok ill read that
[21:15] <ElixirVitae> How do I decide if an update is worthy, I suppose I update all of the security updates?
[21:15] <Kostis> Anyone?
[21:15] <ElixirVitae> Should I check even the ones that make their ways to repos for possible bugs or whatnot?
[21:16] <k1l> ElixirVitae: in general the ubuntu maintainer decide if its worth an update. but you can read about every update on the mailinglists and in launchpad
[21:17] <killmark> ElixirVitae: just wait for other's feedbacks before updating
[21:19] <ElixirVitae> Ubuntu maintainer are generally the same person(s) as debian maintainer, no? I've read that debian packages are processed through vigorous testing before being accepted, which means ubuntu repos should be on the clear.
[21:19] <Mikevin> is it possible my rc.d scripts are being executed before my homefolder is mounted? they don't seem to find my homefolder except when I put a slow command before it
[21:20] <L3top> Mikevin: your /home folder is on a different partition?
[21:20] <Kostis> Lol what is the answer? Jupiter has 67 moons. How many days are there in October?
[21:20] <Kostis> I need to get in the ubuntu forums, but i dont know the answer.
[21:20] <Mikevin> L3top no it's not I think
[21:20] <k1l> ElixirVitae: some are the same, some not. but the process is similar
[21:21] <zykotick9> ElixirVitae: no.  ubuntu packages, and debian packages - are totally different maintainers/quality (usually)
[21:21] <L3top> Then it is mounted at the same time as the /etc/ dir where rc.d exists Mikevin
[21:21] <Dreadtower> Well done for 'hitting' my highlight
[21:21] <Dreadtower> I'm an amateur astronomer with  aparticular interest in JUpiter
[21:21] <actionParsnip> Mikevin: you could unmount the home folder then remouunt it using /etc/rc.local
[21:22] <TheLordOfTime> Kostis, do you have a support question?
[21:22] <Kostis> I do have one yes.
[21:22] <Mikevin> ok wait, I think i'm doing something stupid, im not that great with linux yet
[21:22] <Mikevin> my homefolder only mounts when I log in
[21:22] <MonkeyDust> ElixirVitae  visit ubuntu Launchpad, you'll see that the same person maintains both ubuntu and debian packages
[21:22] <Kostis> I am having a problem with the Ubuntu Software Center, i want to delete a review, I have normally logged in , in the Ubuntu Software center and I can't see any button saying "Delete" , I am 99% sure I am on the correct account at Ubuntu software center  , since my account's name and the review has the exactly same name (is it possible in two different accounts to have the same Real name?).
[21:22] <Kostis> But in the Ubuntu software center It seems like It's not me , It does not even say " (that's you) " and I have written that review at 2011-5-25
[21:23] <Kostis> Thats my question ^
[21:24] <L3top> Mikevin: mounts is not the correct word. The partition is mounted... therefore the directories exist. rc.d/ directory executes commands as root, so permission is not an issue. It should not matter whether or not you are logged in.
[21:24] <Mikevin> so my next question is, how do i get my homefolder to mount before the startup scripts are executed?(this is ubuntu server btw)
[21:24] <Chairman_Meow> Hi. something is wrong with my graphics card. i was talking to somebody before on here who had me look at my xorg log? which showed an error,now i cant find that log. suggestions?
[21:24] <L3top> Mikevin: what is it trying to do?
[21:25] <MonkeyDust> Mikevin  there's also #ubuntu-server
[21:25] <Mikevin> L3top my scripts cant seem to find it, giving errors about chdir() not working etc
[21:25] <Mikevin> ah thanks MonkeyDust
[21:26] <MarconM> how i became ubuntu translator official
[21:26] <L3top> Mikevin: pastebin the script. What version of Ubuntu is this?
[21:27] <Chairman_Meow> Suggestion please,My main complaint is that anything that is barely even graphics intense is hard on my 750mb 1.9ghz? system. IE: draging/resizing windows,switching between windows. etc My grphics chipset: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[21:27] <L3top> Chairman_Meow: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:28] <Mikevin> 12.04 and http://pastebin.com/3345PfWt for example L3top
[21:28] <OerHeks> Chairman_Meow, try a lightweight ubuntu, like xubuntu or lubuntu
[21:28] <Chairman_Meow> OerHeks, im on lubuntu
[21:28] <Mikevin> L3top error in boot.log is /etc/rc2.d/S99sickbeard: 40: cd: can't cd to /home/mikevin/.sickbeard
[21:28] <L3top> Chairman_Meow: try sudo apt-get install i965-va-driver
[21:30] <kandinski> I updated my 12.04 and lost "focus follows mouse", I can't find it in the "ubuntu tweak" part of the control panel. How can I regain it? I had it in 11.10, but I don't remember how I set it up.
[21:31] <L3top> Mikevin: does mount |  grep '/home' produce a result?
[21:32] <Mikevin> L3top /home/mikevin/.Private on /home/mikevin type ecryptfs etc
[21:33] <Mikevin> could it be that it's not being decrypted in time?
[21:33] <kenyabob> I need to have a command for appending text to a document owned by root that is one line, and contains my password
[21:34] <ElixirVitae> It seems it is as you've said, MonkeyDust, barring ppas of course, as they can be ubuntu specific.
[21:34] <L3top> Mikevin: I wouldn't expect so... but it is a very clever possibility I wouldn't have thought of :)
[21:34]  * ElixirVitae decides to update security and universe outright and check for bugs in ppa updates.
[21:34] <ElixirVitae> !botsnack
[21:34] <Mikevin> L3top hmm im gonna google if i can force that on startup
[21:35] <elkng> "Total of 1652 nicks" is it me or this amount increased 50% for last couple years ?
[21:35] <rhollan> anyone get an Iphone 4 to work with banshee on 12.04? Nothing but grief
[21:35] <elkng> is it because ubuntu became more popular or other OS become less popular ?
[21:35] <Chairman_Meow> Heres my xorg log,it says something about a hung or crashed gpu somewhere  http://pastebin.com/0y190zWf
[21:35] <kostkon> elkng, it's just you :P
[21:36] <Chairman_Meow> L3top, ^^ ill try installing that driver in a min,do you think it will work now that youve seen the error message in question?
[21:36] <k1l> rhollan: newest apple stuff isnt reverse-engeneered so far
[21:36] <wilee-nilee> elkng, Try #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:37] <rhollan> crap and I thought it would be easy to install music for a friend
[21:37] <househead> struggling with an efi+gpt luks/lvm encrypted install on a macbook air 2011 - finally got as far as making grub work and partially, crypttab, but I cannot get past the password prompt ... initrd seems to be looping
[21:37] <L3top> !info i965-va-driver | Chairman_Meow
[21:37] <Meris> I'm trying to integrate Tengwar Quenya (Elvish script from the Lord of the Rings) in the Unicode table in the free-to-use area of Unicode. Does anyone have experience with a similar action?
[21:37] <rhollan> banshee reports a checksum error, but i thought libimoiledevice was updated to handle DBVersion 5
[21:38] <househead> chrooted in and and the system looks like it should be working, must be crypttab/initramfs etc
[21:38] <househead> my head hurts
[21:38] <MonkeyDust> !ipod | rhollan
[21:38] <faggybot> What is a good name for a pentesting distro that I am making?
[21:38] <vinitius> #model /join
[21:39] <Meris> faggybot, try pubuntu, or PenBuntu, or Stylubuntu
[21:39] <rhollan> I'm on 12.04
[21:39] <faggybot> cool thanks
[21:39] <darren> hi guys, new to ubuntu. Can anyone help me with a problem. Just installed on PC but got an inch black strip down right hand side and the desktop goes off the right hand side of the screen.
[21:40] <rhollan> libimobiledevice is just supposed to "work".
[21:40] <darren> sorry black strip left hand side and desktop goes off screen to right
[21:40] <Chairman_Meow> L3top, do i need to restart after installing that?
[21:41] <k1l> rhollan: see http://gtkpod.org/wiki/Home
[21:41] <L3top> i would, but all that should technically be required is to reload the desktop Chairman_Meow.
[21:42] <rhollan> trouble is this phone never had a single song added with iTunes so gtkpod won't work
[21:42] <Meris> Chairman_Meow, <= Humourus nickname ^_^
[21:42] <rhollan> banshee is supposed to work where gtkpod fails on DBVersion 5
[21:43] <Chairman_Meow> L3top, how do i reload the desktop?
[21:43] <wilee-nilee> darren, are you updated, have you checked the screen resolution, have you checked the additional drivers app. Have you tried the unity 2d option at login?
[21:43] <k1l> rhollan: music is synct with gtkpod whcich (as you see on theat page) doesnt work with newesst apple stuff
[21:43] <k1l> rhollan: you are sure libmobile is enough for the music stuff?
[21:44] <rhollan> it appears to be. banshee barfs with a bad checksum error
[21:44] <rhollan> even though I added the right HashFile
[21:44] <k1l> rhollan: that checksumerror is the same i got with gtkpod on an ipod. because it wont support newest stuff
[21:45] <actionParsnip> darren: are you using a desktop system, or is it a laptop?
[21:45] <ghabit> what is default instant messaging client for 12.10?
[21:46] <zykotick9> ghabit: ask in #ubuntu+1 for 12.10 questions
[21:46] <actionParsnip> ghabit: empathy
[21:46] <k1l> rhollan: afaik the music stuff runs just with gtkpod, but its not running with the new devices. im not totaly sure about that libmobile, but it hink that is just for the non music stuff
[21:46] <darren> its a desktop. Just installing all updates at the moment. Changing resolution doesn’t make a difference.
[21:47] <ghabit> actionParsnip, thank you!
[21:47] <rhollan> stupid iPhone. Every OTHER phone is dead simple.
[21:47] <Kostis> If anyone was able to help me would really appreciate it thanks goodnight! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12297416#post12297416
[21:47] <actionParsnip> darren: does your screen have an OSD you can move the screen across
[21:47] <actionParsnip> rhollan: yep, one of the reasons to avoid them :)
[21:48] <DJCLOO> i <3 ubuntu *.*
[21:48] <onats> is there a voip /asterisk-like app that can be easily installed on 12.04, with a GUI for config?
[21:48] <actionParsnip> rhollan: if it comes to it, you can virtualize windows using the closed source virtualbox (gives raw usb access) and use that
[21:48] <michealPW> Is XChat gnome-based? Like libgtk
[21:48] <rhollan> not my phone, a friends.
[21:49] <michealPW> Actually here's a better question. What utility do I use to inspect a running process, to find out which libraries it is using?
[21:49] <rhollan> She wants me to put music on it for her.
[21:49] <michealPW> Ubuntu 12.04 ^
[21:49] <n1> how to install .dsc file?
[21:49] <rhollan> I am running 12.04
[21:49] <actionParsnip> onats: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+Linux+Debian
[21:49] <wols> n1: why would you want to?
[21:50] <actionParsnip> n1: file extensions don't mean much. What is the file?
[21:50] <darren> not sure what OSD is? But i think i know what you mean about moving the screen view but that option is not available for the screen
[21:50] <n1> wols for gdebi
[21:50] <rhollan> I also tried iTunes under plays underlinux to no success
[21:50] <michealPW> .dsc could be a few different things, depending on the context. I don't think it's what you're looking for, though :P
[21:50] <michealPW> What are you trying to do?
[21:50] <onats> actionParsnip: which one is the GUI?
[21:50] <zykotick9> !info gdebi
[21:50] <wols> n1: and gdebi needs it why?
[21:50] <actionParsnip> onats: no idea, not even heard of it til you said it. I just use a web search
[21:51] <n1> it came with that extension
[21:51] <onats> actionParsnip: you haven't used asterisk?
[21:51] <wols> n1: look at it with less or any editor and be enlightened
[21:51] <actionParsnip> n1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete#The_Personal_Builder:_pbuilder    may help
[21:51] <wols> n1: hint: it's nothing you can install
[21:51] <actionParsnip> onats: not heard of that either, sorry
[21:52] <MonkeyDust> rhollan  is this link useful or relevant for you http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/26/el-tunes-gives-linux-users-itms-playback-capabilities/
[21:52] <ghabit> Help! Cannot perform index to share the files with minidlna: minidlna.c:474: error: Media directory "/media/e/tmp/gpodder-downloads/" not accessible!
[21:53] <actionParsnip> ghabit: does the /media/e/tmp/gpodder-downloads  folder exist?
[21:53] <wols> ghabit: can the user the program runs under access this directory?
[21:53] <ghabit> acidchild, yes I have this folder.
[21:54] <ghabit> wols, i'm sorry, how to check it?
[21:54] <zykotick9> ghabit: check permissions.  "ls -l /media/e/tmp/gpodder-downloads"
[21:54] <actionParsnip> ghabit: is it accessible to all users etc?
[21:54] <ghabit> -rwxrwx--- 1 root plugdev 266240 сент.  1 10:27 Database
[21:54] <ghabit> drwxrwx--- 1 root plugdev      0 сент.  1 10:27 Logs
[21:54] <Chairman_Meow> L3top, how do i reload the desktop?
[21:55] <ghabit> and more such lines.
[21:55] <zykotick9> ghabit: only root and plugdev have permissions, other has none.
[21:55] <ghabit> zykotick9, how I can grant access to minidlna?
[21:55] <Chairman_Meow> How do i reload my desktop aft5er updating my graphics driver?
[21:55] <zykotick9> ghabit: can your user access it currently?  (are you a member of plugdev - use "groups" in terminal to check)
[21:56] <wols> Chairman_Meow: log out and back in again
[21:56] <actionParsnip> ghabit: try:  sudo chmod -R a+rx /media/e/tmp/gpodder-downloads
[21:56] <wols> ghabit: what groups does your user belong to?
[21:56] <actionParsnip> Chairman_Meow: I'd just reboot when it is next convenient
[21:56] <wols> actionParsnip: doing that is not a good idea. fat and ntfs rarely adhere to linux permissions...
[21:57] <actionParsnip> wols: oh, if its FAT then it'sno good
[21:57] <wols> actionParsnip: e/tmp is a big hint there...
[21:57] <actionParsnip> wols: doesn't show the file system type by the mount point...
[21:57] <michealPW> hah logging in/out got me at first. I was going crazy trying to figure out why my new secondary user/mode wasn't working haha
[21:58] <wols> actionParsnip: please think before you type. please
[21:59] <actionParsnip> wols: how is e/tmp a hint to the file system?
[21:59] <actionParsnip> wols: I could mount an SSHFS to e/tmp and it will work
[21:59] <zykotick9> actionParsnip: i doubt many ubuntu users use ext on external devices... (re: wols)
[22:01] <InsideMan> Hey guys, I've been thinking about picking up a laptop for programming and using Ubuntu. It seems unanimous that a Thinkpad T series is a top choice by many. Now I'm trying to decide what it should be...a T410, T420, T520, T530. Can anyone give me some insight on it?
[22:01] <sambagirl> ɯlɐɔ uı ʞɹoʍ oʇ ƃuıoƃ
[22:01] <ghabit> sudo chmod -R a+rx does not helps (
[22:01] <MonkeyDust> sambagirl  yrev ecin
[22:01] <sambagirl> haha
[22:02] <actionParsnip> !hcl | InsideMan
[22:03] <actionParsnip> InsideMan: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki   may also help
[22:04] <InsideMan> Thanks for the resources, actionParsnip and ubottu!
[22:04] <wols> InsideMan: T410 is a bit old. the rest is viable and depends on your personal choices
[22:04] <InsideMan> wols: What would you recommend for programming that will last me a while...
[22:05] <InsideMan> I may be doing C/C++, Python, and run Matlab and statistical programs.
[22:05] <wols> comes down to personal preference. but this is not a ##hardware channel
[22:06] <InsideMan> Thanks wols!
[22:06] <larzen-wrk> question -- how would I accomplish a "remote pam authentication" scneario.. meaning, I would like for all my clients to authenticate against a local server..
[22:07] <sambagirl> i was pondering the significance of geting a virus in wine and it being injected into linux kernel and leaving me with the kernels Kentucky Fried Chicken infection?
[22:07] <ghabit> zykotick9, I can open this folder.
[22:08] <varikonniemi> how can i set the default applications? torrents are opened correctly but magnets still go to transmission. Is there some easier way than uninstalling transmission? :D
[22:08] <MonkeyDust> varikonniemi  system settings, details, defaults
[22:09] <jrib> sambagirl: sounds delicious
[22:09] <MonkeyDust> varikonniemi  nvm, it's not in that list
[22:09] <varikonniemi> oh its hidden there
[22:09] <varikonniemi> and no, its not there
[22:09] <zykotick9> ghabit: is this a fat or ntfs filesystem?
[22:10] <sambagirl> seriously i have to make a decision on redoing some servers, and i was curious what server i should use for ubuntu based stuff? i have 10.10 on a couple. should i use what? 11.04? 12.04? some have 10.04 and i need long term security support basically.
[22:10] <ghabit> zykotick9, ntfs
[22:10] <zykotick9> ghabit: sorry i can't help - good luck.
[22:10] <MonkeyDust> varikonniemi  found it
[22:10] <jrib> sambagirl: 12.04 is LTS
[22:10] <varikonniemi> MonkeyDust, where?
[22:11] <sambagirl> jrib i am just fearfiul that systems that run flawlessly now might encounter incompatabilities?
[22:11] <sambagirl> or is that just paranoia?
[22:11] <jrib> sambagirl: 10.10 is already EOL and 11.04 soon will be
[22:11] <MonkeyDust> varikonniemi in Delug -> edit, preferences, other, associate magnet links
[22:11] <jrib> sambagirl: I don't know what systems you mean
[22:11] <sambagirl> yes
[22:11] <sambagirl> i'll speak on it later. have to cook. chao
[22:13] <varikonniemi> MonkeyDust, i see no similar setting in qbittorrent
[22:14] <cafree> I'm trying to extend my root partition, which is a logical volume (using LVM).  I'm able to extend the volume no problem, but I have no idea how I can extend the filesystem itself, as I need to unmount it first.  A ubuntu startup disc doesn't seem to support LVM.  Can anyone help?
[22:14] <varikonniemi> before the torrent is even invoked chrome asks if it may start the external application, so i would figure the decision what application is used is made in chrome?
[22:14] <MonkeyDust> varikonniemi  try Deluge, it's very easy to use
[22:16] <varikonniemi> MonkeyDust, not really an option since i have a huge list seeding and cannot be bothered to manually import them all to another client. This problem came up only now since i only encountered a magnet
[22:17] <ghabit> zykotick9, I don't know how it helps, but it helps - at /etc/fstab i have changed umask from 007 to 002, what it means?
[22:17] <xangua> varikonniemi: just save the magnet file and in it's properties, set the torrent client you want as default
[22:17] <MonkeyDust> varikonniemi  fair enough, but now you know it's there and it can be done
[22:17] <varikonniemi> its not a file just a command?
[22:18] <zykotick9> ghabit: that might work???  good luck.
[22:18] <ghabit> zykotick9, it is working. Just tryed.
[22:18] <ghabit> zykotick9, can you explain me what is 002?
[22:19] <zykotick9> ghabit: umask is a subtraction from 777, so 002 should give 775
[22:22] <Raistlin-> hello...two things, first of all, i cannot seem to have my touch pad on my acer one 725, anyone can helpme out
[22:25] <Raistlin-> hello...two things, first of all, i cannot seem to have my touch pad on my acer one 725, anyone can helpme out
[22:26] <MonkeyDust> !repeat > Raistlin-
[22:26] <Raistlin-> sorry...
[22:27] <wilee-nilee> Raistlin-, Try fn-f7 on my acer that is a on off for the pad.
[22:27] <varikonniemi> well, i uninstalled transmission and it now directs to qbittorrent. I sure hope there is some more elegant way and that it would be a bit more straight forward.
[22:27] <Raistlin-> wilee-nilee nope did not work...
[22:29] <varikonniemi> i googled and there was some results about patching xdg-open, but come on! this is selecting a default application we are talking about, not applying some random patch lines from the net
[22:29] <jrib> varikonniemi: what is your actual question?
[22:30] <Raistlin-> ive done a  xinput  --list and got ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad                  id=13   [slave  pointer  (2)], after did my search on ubuntu web site with no result
[22:30] <varikonniemi> how to set which application opens magnets in chrome
[22:30] <jrib> varikonniemi: does chrome use xdg-open?
[22:30] <varikonniemi> yes
[22:30] <jrib> varikonniemi: so just set the default app by right click on a file of the right type and selecting the "open with" tab
[22:31] <varikonniemi> magnets are not files
[22:31] <jrib> varikonniemi: ah
[22:31] <varikonniemi> they are special url:s
[22:34] <jrib> varikonniemi: all I see is blog articles about editing gconf keys; nothing about patching xdg-open
[22:34] <varikonniemi> http://www.void.gr/kargig/blog/2012/01/24/open-magnet-urls-with-xdg-open/
[22:34] <varikonniemi> this link was found on ask ubuntu
[22:35] <jrib> varikonniemi: http://askubuntu.com/questions/108925/how-to-tell-chrome-what-to-do-with-a-magnet-link
[22:35] <varikonniemi> yes, on that page
[22:35] <jrib> varikonniemi: but, why don't you use the top answer instead?
[22:37] <varikonniemi> well it seemed even more complicated
[22:37] <varikonniemi> than patching one file
[22:37] <jrib> varikonniemi: it's running a single command
[22:37] <varikonniemi> and editing some .desktop files seeking paths and what not
[22:37] <jrib> varikonniemi: no
[22:38] <varikonniemi> well, i uninstalled transmission and that fixed it. All im saying is that such a basic functionality should have obvious UI way to handle it
[22:39] <jrib> varikonniemi: agreed
[22:39] <jrib> varikonniemi: well there is actually, it's xdg-mime.  There's just no gui for the scheme handlers :)
[22:39] <wchan_> what is the support like on ubuntu 12.04 on z77 chipset? i am getting numerous crash problems including my logitech usb mouse not working and the installer throwing me "Unable to create '/root/cache/dconf'; dconf will not work""
[22:39] <wchan_> any tips on getting ubuntu working on 12.04 to install
[22:39] <wchan_> or should i downgrade to a more stabe version
[22:40] <varikonniemi> 12.04 is as stable as it gets (*current LTS)
[22:40] <wchan_> varikonniemi: logitech usb mouse does not work at all in installer. this doesnt happen in 10.*
[22:41] <ealeon> hello
[22:41] <wchan_> varikonniemi: installer crashing on "Unable to create '/root/cache/dconf'; dconf will not work " ... any fix?
[22:41] <actionParsnip> wchan_: could try using Quantal. The newer kernel and drivers may help
[22:41] <varikonniemi> i got something similar when trying to install without enough ram
[22:41] <jrib> wchan_: first thing you should do is checksum your cd
[22:41] <wchan_> jrib: checksum is fine.
[22:41] <wchan_> jrib: installing off USB SD card if that matters.
[22:41] <varikonniemi> you need 512 ram
[22:41] <wchan_> actionParsnip: whats that?
[22:41] <ealeon> 512 ram = cant do much
[22:42] <wchan_> varikonniemi: i have 16 gib ram
[22:42] <varikonniemi> :D
[22:42] <ealeon> 16 gig of ram? big man
[22:42] <actionParsnip> wchan_: the next release of Ubuntu, out soon
[22:42] <varikonniemi> well my logitech dinovo edge did not work either
[22:42] <wchan_> actionParsnip: so you mean skip 12.04?
[22:42] <varikonniemi> but it works in 10.10
[22:42] <ealeon> 12.04 is great
[22:42] <wchan_> varikonniemi: my dinovo works somewhat
[22:42] <varikonniemi> it was one tag in a setting file that needed to be changed
[22:42] <actionParsnip> wchan_: why not, as long as it's a clean install you can skip releases :)
[22:43] <wchan_> actionParsnip: i do development, i dont want to jump into a beta release that wont be supported in 2 months?
[22:43] <Chairman_meow> Question,is there a ubuntu studio #channel? Or can anyone give me a list of all the audio applications used in ustudio?
[22:43] <wchan_> varikonniemi: do you know what you changed?
[22:43] <actionParsnip> wchan_: non LTS is supported for 18 months
[22:43] <ghabit> how to expose all opened windows usin unity?
[22:43] <varikonniemi> wchan_, quantal is out real soon and supported for a year i think
[22:43] <Meris> I'm trying to integrate Tengwar Quenya (Elvish script from the Lord of the Rings) in the Unicode table in the free-to-use area of Unicode. Does anyone have experience with a similar action?
[22:44] <wchan_> varikonniemi: so you mean when it comes out the ubuntu will auto jump to the supported quantal?
[22:44] <wchan_> where can i dl the live iso then
[22:44] <zymaster> Hey forgive me for mentioning Windows, but I have a dual boot system with windows 7 and ubuntu. I want to upgrade my Windows to Windows 8 but I want to keep my dual boot in place and keep ubuntu. Will this work? I don't have Windows 8 yet so I can't try anything but just curious if it will work
[22:44] <Seppoz> hello, is there a way to create a virtual serial port that echos everything back you write in?
[22:44] <varikonniemi> wchan_, http://awesomelinux.blogspot.fi/2011/10/ubuntu-logitech-dinovo-edge-bluetooth.html
[22:44] <varikonniemi> wchan_, google "12.10 daily"
[22:44] <actionParsnip> zymaster: you may need to reinstate Grub2 to the MBR
[22:44] <ealeon> what command to install .deb
[22:44] <wchan_> sigh...
[22:45] <varikonniemi> it takes to the daily build page
[22:45] <wchan_> what happened to the good old days where ubuntu always worked out of the box
[22:45] <wilee-nilee> zymaster, Your dual boot of ubuntu was not installed from windows was it/
[22:45] <actionParsnip> ealeon: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[22:45] <Chairman_meow> Question,is there a ubuntu studio #channel? Or can anyone give me a list of all the audio applications used in ustudio?
[22:46] <actionParsnip> Chairman_meow: could try #ubuntustudio
[22:47] <actionParsnip> wchan_: has done since Gutsy here.
[22:47] <Chairman_meow> actionParsnip, thanks.
[22:48] <zymaster> willee-nillee I put in the disk and selected keep other operating systems when I was installing
[22:49] <wchan_> the mouse is extremely "jumpy" in the installer. e.g., skip lots of pixels
[22:49] <wchan_> is this normal?
[22:49] <wilee-nilee> zymaster, cool, as suggested you will just have to reload grub to the mbr.
[22:50] <mehmet1288> s.a
[22:50] <actionParsnip> wchan_: how does the mouse connect to the system?
[22:51] <wchan_> actionParsnip: usb direct cable
[22:51] <wchan_> actionParsnip: originally was using the logitech USB wireless and it wouldnt even work at all without some weird unplugging replugging
[22:52] <wchan_> actionParsnip: currently using some amazon.com wireD mouse that is "linux compatible"
[22:52] <actionParsnip> wchan_: have you tried a different USB port?
[22:52] <wchan_> actionParsnip: yes
[22:53] <wchan_> actionParsnip: using USB 2.0 port 1 not the 3.0 ports
[22:53] <actionParsnip> wchan_: does the system have a make and model? Does the mouse have a make and model?
[22:53] <wchan_> motherboard is intel --> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121606
[22:54] <wchan_> mousei s just some generic mouse w nothing fancy
[22:54] <wchan_> sigh. well im downloading centos now. lets see if its better .
[22:55] <actionParsnip> wchan_: worth exploring
[22:55] <Lockscreen> me too wchan_
[22:55] <zymaster> ok thanks
[22:55] <Lockscreen> I will try to see if it fits my business server
[22:58] <chimney> hi
[22:59] <RiXtEr> sup.
[22:59] <chimney> my hardware switch is broken, need to unlock wlan
[22:59] <chimney> where can I script around acpi?
[22:59] <actionParsnip> chimney: sudo rfkill unlock all
[22:59] <chimney> actionParsnip: k will try this
[22:59] <Mandex> hi
[22:59] <chimney> Mandex: hi
[22:59] <RiXtEr> sup.
[23:00] <Mandex> Trying to get sound working in .04 Ubuntu ):
[23:00] <Mandex> It's a real pain
[23:00] <RiXtEr> 8.04, 9.04,10.04,11.04,12.04?
[23:00] <Mandex> Sorry, 12.04
[23:00] <RiXtEr> ;)
[23:00] <Mandex> :)
[23:00] <RiXtEr> I thought as much
[23:00] <Mandex> yeah
[23:01] <Mandex> I should have said, though
[23:01] <RiXtEr> my first step would be lspci and find out what soundcard you have
[23:01] <Mandex> ok
[23:01] <Mandex> it is integrated, will it still work?
[23:01] <actionParsnip> Mandex: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[23:02] <Froward> what's that command to update the PPA apt whateverthingee, when you add a new PPA?
[23:02] <Froward> I did add-apt-repository and now there's an update thingee or something
[23:02] <Froward> help?
[23:02] <actionParsnip> Froward: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:02] <Froward> a thanks
[23:02] <Froward> :)
[23:02] <actionParsnip> Froward: patience is a good thing
[23:03] <Froward> but cocaine is better ;)
[23:03] <actionParsnip> Mandex: do you dual boot?
[23:03] <chimney> actionParsnip: does ubuntu blocks usb wifi things too? o.o cause my wifi usb thingy didn't wanted earlier ...
[23:04] <actionParsnip> chimney: depends on config really
[23:05] <naughtysnake> hi there
[23:05] <naughtysnake> tell me you can read me
[23:05] <naughtysnake> u_u
[23:05] <actionParsnip> chimney: run:   lsusb  and use the 8 character hex ID to find guides
[23:06] <actionParsnip> naughtysnake: yes your are seen :)
[23:06] <naughtysnake> thanks, i dont have a clue about how this works xD
[23:06] <Mandex> Sorry, seemed to have crashed there
[23:06] <Mandex> The output is: NVIDIA Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio (rev a2
[23:06] <Mandex> )
[23:06] <chimney> naughtysnake: o.o? irc or cli?
[23:07] <naughtysnake> what?
[23:07] <actionParsnip> Mandex: can you run the command I gave, it will give a tonne of info
[23:07] <Mandex> you dont have a clue how irc or cli works?
[23:07] <naughtysnake> irc
[23:07] <chimney> actionParsnip: hm doesnt do anything :(
[23:07] <Mandex> I crashed before that I think
[23:07] <Mandex> I was gone for a few minutes at least
[23:07] <actionParsnip> Mandex: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[23:08] <Mandex> .
[23:08] <naughtysnake> cya guys
[23:09] <Mandex> For god sake, this keeps crashing
[23:10] <chimney> actionParsnip: Im going to the vendor asking stupid questions ^^ he should do it right
[23:13] <jgcampbell300> if one wanted to build a very secure router out of an old pc with out haveing to play a ton of money for addons, what distro would one look at
[23:15] <jgcampbell300> anyone here .. dosnt seem to be much chatter tonight
[23:16] <Mandex> hardly anyones at k/b
[23:16] <RobbyF> jgcampbell300, don't most people use *BSD?
[23:17] <jgcampbell300> RobbyF: i was just reading up on BSD ... seems to be what most choose
[23:18] <Mandex> does anyone know how to connect to this through irssi? i type /connect webchat.freenode.net and get an error
[23:19] <Raistlin-> hello...i have a stupid question if i all ready have a windows installed..can I install ubuntu on this drive whithout whipping windows?
[23:19] <jgcampbell300> Raistlin-: if you have a partition open
[23:19] <jgcampbell300> or use virtual ... or you could try to change the size of your partition if you have room
[23:20] <the_dudez0r> Hello, when is ubuntu 12.10 going to be released?
[23:21] <joshua__> it is in final beta now and can be downloaded already
[23:21] <actionParsnip> the_dudez0r: I'd ask in #ubuntu+1
[23:21] <wchan_> is ubuntu 11.10 stable?
[23:21] <jgcampbell300> wonder why im mode +i
[23:21] <wchan_> i cant get the 12.04 installer to work
[23:22] <joshua__> someone has your nick
[23:22] <actionParsnip> wchan_: yes
[23:22] <joshua__> wchan_ 12.04 is borked
[23:22] <jgcampbell300> hmm
[23:22] <wchan_> joshua__: details?
[23:22] <joshua__> i've never got it too work
[23:22] <joshua__> when it did install it locked up at the login screen
[23:22] <Raistlin-> ok right not i have a 13gyg recuperation partition (which i did not create), a 100mo system reserved (which i did not create) and, my c: 452.66go in ntfs
[23:22] <actionParsnip> joshua__: did you try a few DEs?
[23:22] <wchan_> joshua__: alrite. already 5 hrs wasted today... lets hope 11.10 works @@
[23:22] <joshua__> there are waaaay too many bugs though..
[23:23] <joshua__> actionParsnip how could that fix the dsound?
[23:23] <wchan_> joshua__: or do you think i should jump down to the last LTS
[23:23] <actionParsnip> joshua__: you never mentioned dsound
[23:23] <joshua__> oh shit sorry, wrong end of the stick
[23:23] <joshua__> yes I did
[23:23] <joshua__> constant crashing
[23:23] <FloodBot1> joshua__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:24] <joshua__> got 12.04 xubuntu installed correctly now though
[23:24] <joshua__> minus sound and unity
[23:24] <actionParsnip> joshua__: I searched the whole text I have seen for 'dsound' and only found 2 instances
[23:24] <joshua__> dsound?
[23:24] <Raistlin-> so will ubuntu whipe out my windows?
[23:25] <actionParsnip> (00:23:03) joshua__: actionParsnip how could that fix the dsound?
[23:25] <joshua__> ah that was a type
[23:25] <jgcampbell300> well i gota go ... you guys have fun
[23:25] <joshua__> *typo
[23:25] <joshua__> cya
[23:25] <actionParsnip> joshua__: I see
[23:25] <joshua__> Basically sound refuses to work
[23:25] <joshua__> i have integrated nvidia audio
[23:25] <actionParsnip> joshua__: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[23:25] <wilee-nilee> Raistlin-, If you don't know what your doing yes, is that the crux of your problem?
[23:26] <Raistlin-> yes
[23:26] <joshua__> actionParsnip ::
[23:26] <joshua__> bash: ./alsa-info.sh: No such file or directory
[23:26] <wilee-nilee> Raistlin-, Can you boot the live cd, and run a command or post an image of gparted?
[23:26] <actionParsnip> joshua__: did the file download?
[23:26] <Mandex> Nope
[23:27] <Mandex> maybe i need to add the server or something?
[23:27] <Mandex> ah wait
[23:27] <Mandex> I got it working now
[23:27] <wchan_> anyone here have z77 chipset?
[23:27] <Mandex> it is like a help file for alsa, right?
[23:28] <Mandex> wchan_ not me
[23:28] <Mandex> wchan_ what's up?
[23:28] <actionParsnip> joshua__: run the whole command and you willmake a URL when you select to upload to the server
[23:28] <wchan_> Mandex: pretty sure 12.04 doesnt play nice w. z77 , trying to find a ubuntu version that does
[23:29] <Mandex> ah
[23:29] <wchan_> if i swap motherboards but keep the same harddrive
[23:30] <wchan_> ubuntu is supposed to work right?
[23:30] <Mandex> Yes I downloaded a file actionParsnip and it;s saved
[23:30] <Mandex> wchan_ yes
[23:30] <wchan_> if it doesnt work. does that probably mean my mobo is bonked?
[23:30] <wchan_> it boots up 1/2 way, but it crashes
[23:30] <lewis1711> I have a folder full of ".txt.gz" files. I have tried extracting them all with " tar -zxvf *.txt.gz", but I get "not found in archive" for all of them
[23:30] <wchan_> even on recovery mode
[23:30] <lewis1711> any ideas?
[23:31] <actionParsnip> lewis1711: try installing unp and extracting using that
[23:31] <actionParsnip> wchan_: do you get a black screen at boot
[23:32] <wchan_> actionParsnip: no. the gui screen pops up and then gets stuck
[23:32] <lewis1711> oh I needed to use gunzip
[23:34] <Mandex> actionParsnip what do you think I could do now?
[23:35] <actionParsnip> Mandex: about what?
[23:36] <joshua__> My lack of sound
[23:36] <joshua__> Sound refuses to work. xubuntu 12.04
[23:37] <actionParsnip> Mandex: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[23:38] <joshua__> It downloads a file and saves it
[23:38] <joshua__> then presents me a list of commands
[23:38] <stratoz> fdsfa
[23:38] <stratoz> how are you?
[23:38] <actionParsnip> joshua__: yes, its an alsa script to be ran, then select to upload to the server
[23:38] <actionParsnip> joshua__: use cursors to navigate the menus
[23:40] <joshua__> I'm confused. Bear with me. It pulled a script from Github, then presented me with list of commands. Nothing more, nothing less as far as I can tell. No menu's etc
[23:40] <wchan_> if a ubuntu installation doesnt boot after swapping out motherboards. and recovery mode doesnt work either
[23:40] <wchan_> what options do i have
[23:41] <joshua__> wchan_ check your ram?
[23:41] <joshua__> memtest it
[23:44] <actionParsnip> wchan_: how do you mean 'doesn't boot'?
[23:52] <ner0x> Anyone using xfce know how to turn off the "if I move the window too close to the edge it switches desktops" feature?
[23:53] <WhatWhereAmI> hey, can i configure grub to boot ubuntu from one physical drive (which has grub) and windows from a separate physical drive?
[23:54] <wilee-nilee> WhatWhereAmI, Which has grub is a OS right?
[23:55] <actionParsnip> WhatWhereAmI: grub does that by default
[23:56] <actionParsnip> WhatWhereAmI: if you run:  sudo update-grub   it should add the Windows OS
[23:56] <WhatWhereAmI> actionParsnip: what does this mean. it does what by default? like if i run grub-install it will detect the windows drive and set it up?
[23:56] <craigbass1976> Is there some alternative to rsync that doesn't involve setting up a server?  I don't want either laptop running a server; I just need a one time "stick everything in box1/dir into box2/dir that's not already there" command
[23:56] <WhatWhereAmI> oh, okay. will it be able to boot it correctly though if the windows drive is not set as the boot device? i know booting windows is all wacky.
[23:56] <actionParsnip> WhatWhereAmI: yes, the os-prober command will find the bootable Windows OS
[23:57] <actionParsnip> WhatWhereAmI: the fact Windows is on a different physical drive is irrelevant to Grub
[23:57] <WhatWhereAmI> ya, i was just wondering if it was relevant to windows :P
[23:57] <WhatWhereAmI> but sounds good
[23:58] <actionParsnip> WhatWhereAmI: Grub is a badass bootloader, the Windows one isn't nearly so great
[23:58] <WhatWhereAmI> agreed
[23:59] <actionParsnip> craigbass1976: could use cp