[01:59] <jamin> found a few regressions with xfce between 12.04 and 12.10
[02:00] <jamin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar/+bug/1066637
[02:00] <jamin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfwm4/+bug/1066591
[02:01] <micahg> jamin: works for me
[02:01]  * micahg gets sftp URL
[02:02] <jamin> micahg, which using an ssh:// url in thunar 1.4.0?
[02:02] <micahg> yep
[02:02] <micahg> 1.4.0-1ubuntu2
[02:02] <jamin> same version
[02:02] <jamin> doesn't allow the ssh:// urls any more... only sftp:// urls
[02:02] <micahg> jamin: do you have gvfs installed?
[02:03] <jamin> yes, 1.14.0-0ubuntu6
[02:03] <micahg> mr_pouit: ^^ any ideas?
[02:04] <micahg> jamin: he might not be around at this hour, so you might have to wait until morning for a response
[02:04] <jamin> can open them fine with gigolo which will translate them over to sftp or can manually specify sftp, but have been used to using ssh://
[02:04] <micahg> as I said, wfm 
[02:04] <jamin> any idea on the icons?
[02:06] <micahg> no, no idea, I'm not so familiar with the Xfce internals, just the packaging to some extent
[02:11] <jamin> also the indicator-messages-service doesn't seem to be running... was under 12.04, still digging into why as it is still installed
[02:11] <Unit193> micahg: Can you hold enough packages on upgrade to keep them? :P
[02:12] <micahg> yeah, we had to drop it since the messaging API was broken in quantal and we had no one to port a GTK2 version, we probably won't get it back until we get a GTK3 panel
[02:12] <micahg> Unit193: I have tiny hands
[02:12] <Unit193> Hah, good answer.
[02:12] <jamin> micahg, oh, so it's known to be broken?
[02:12] <micahg> jamin: yeah, we removed it
[02:13] <jamin> =( one of the few things I liked from mainline
[02:14] <micahg> yeah, it's missed by many
[02:14] <jamin> lastly (for now) the battery indicator doesn't seem to change state properly... that is if you're on AC and switch to battery it still indicates (both visibly and via tooltip) that you're on AC
[02:14]  * micahg is hoping for a GTK3 panel by 13.04, but we're not sure it'll happen
[02:14] <jamin> if you open Power Information from the pop up menu, the icon state changes properly
[02:15] <micahg> jamin: sounds like a bug, please file it (xfce4-power-manager)
[02:18] <jamin> filed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/1066645
[02:19] <Unit193> +y
[02:19] <micahg> as my battery is dead on my quantal machine, I can't test that ATM
[02:47] <Unit193> For the record, doing the mini+xubuntu-desktop
[07:25] <knome> skaet, ouch, right. i'll update that at latest when i get home
[09:43] <ochosi> do any of you folks have a real-install?
[09:43] <ochosi> (of 12.10 i mean of course)
[09:44] <ochosi> background: i wanted to check whether bug #1050551 is valid for 12.10 as well, but the capslock thing in vbox doesn't work as expected
[14:35] <GridCube> its there any job i could do to help before release day?
[14:35] <smartboyhw> GridCube, test the RC ISOs I believe:D
[14:35] <GridCube> :) ok will zsync them today then
[14:37] <GridCube> in the topic of the FAQ i've started it but im trully unable to move foward with it, i dont know the answer to the few questions there is and i cant pinpoint ones to add up
[14:37] <GridCube> it seems too disperse around
[14:38] <GridCube> maybe we'll have to wait a few weeks and see what questions the new release brings to the community
[14:38] <smartboyhw> :D
[19:50] <Unit193> Anyone doing a fresh install today?  I need a listing from a new install ( dpkg-query -W --showformat='${Package}\n' | sort -nr | tee dpkg-query-xubuntu-full )