[01:07] <gry> if I have installed xubuntu after windows, how easy is it to shrink the windows partition (once it's got enough space) and expand the xubuntu one?
[01:09] <Unit193> Using gparted?  Not really hard, though it's always recommended to backup anything you'd need.
[01:11] <gry> do I need to defrag? do I need to boot into windows after shrinking its partition? or something
[01:12] <Unit193> Defrag would be a good idea, running chkdsk (chkntfs?) after would be recommended.
[01:13] <Unit193> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/partitioning
[01:13] <gry> sure thanks, I'll give that a try
[01:14] <Unit193> Hope it helps.
[01:24] <crashedpc> partitioning a USB thumbdrive reduces the lifespan.  anything else i should be aware of becides this?
[01:25] <Unit193> What format you going for?
[01:26] <crashedpc> ext2
[01:26] <holstein> you could argue ext2 instead of ext4
[01:28] <Unit193> Or fat, for flash.
[01:35] <crashedpc> oh. a problem i have come across on a build im working on: when attempting to boot from the xubuntu  x86 12.04.1 CD with a Dell i4600 board i get an error message telling me something about expecting a filesystem and not being able to find it (disk works fine in other computers, im currently using it to install to this laptop ATM)
[01:35] <crashedpc> any idea whats going on? (burned with windows image burner)
[01:37] <crashedpc> i was able to boot kubuntu but i'd rather install from a xubuntu disk rather than having to install twice
[01:41] <Liquidedge> My 2 year old totally blew up my taskbar.  Is there a way to reset it to defaults?
[01:42] <crashedpc> screenshot maybe?
[01:45] <Liquidedge> http://imgur.com/Mmgot
[01:45] <holstein> Liquidedge: i would just look at the live cd, or a new user... or blow it out in the /home
[01:46] <crashedpc> new user, transfer files. easiest thing i can think of
[01:46] <holstein> just remove the panel settings from /home
[01:47] <Liquidedge> Is it a hidden directory or file?
[01:48] <Liquidedge> I don't know where the panel settings are.
[01:48] <crashedpc> its amazing what kids and animals can do
[01:48] <Liquidedge> My little floating bar across the bottom is gone, too.
[01:49] <Unit193> .config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-panel.xml  and  .config/xfce4/panel/
[01:49] <crashedpc> ctrl + H to show hidden files
[01:51] <Liquidedge> I only see datetime-7.rc
[01:51] <Liquidedge>  in the panel directory
[01:52] <Liquidedge> I imagine after I delete it, I have to restart?
[01:54] <crashedpc3> or just log back in
[01:55] <Liquidedge> yeah, didn't work.
[02:12] <yuril> hey what is xubuntu's login manager? slim?
[02:13] <Unit193> lightdm, in newer versions.
[02:26] <yuril> unit193: thanks
[02:27] <Unit193> Sure.
[02:33] <john_rambo> Using Xubuntu 12.04. Is it possible to display weather beside the clock ?
[02:34] <Unit193> There is a weather applet.
[02:35] <Unit193> !info xfce4-weather-plugin
[02:38] <john_rambo> Found it. Thanks
[04:02] <Random833> thunderbird doesn't respect my browser setting, and opens firefox. wat do?
[04:04] <holstein> try sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser Random833
[04:06] <Random833> so... there's no way to make it respect per-user XFCE preferred apps?
[04:08] <Random833> also, i just checked, and chromium is actually selected in that
[04:08] <holstein> Random833: does it help? is thunderbird "respecting" those settings?
[04:09] <holstein> Random833: theres a way in the GUI that apparently isnt working for you... is it just thunderbird? all other apps default to the browser you expect?
[04:10] <Random833> well, the only other app i've opened a url from is xfce terminal
[04:11] <Random833> I can't find what is making thunderbird pick firefox, since both alternatives and my xfce settings are set to chromium
[04:11] <holstein> Random833: and? does the terminal open the browser you expect?
[04:11] <Random833> yes, i just said that
[04:11] <Random833> well, i thought i said it
[04:12] <Random833> yes it does
[04:12] <holstein> Random833: can you test something else... maybe from some openoffice document... or another weblink
[04:14] <holstein> also, i find these...
[04:14] <holstein> http://hsmak.wordpress.com/2009/09/03/howto-force-thunderbird-to-open-links-in-firefox/
[04:14] <holstein> similar http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/applications/440364-chrome-unable-change-default-browser-thunderbird.html
[04:20] <Random833> what do you mean "another weblink"?
[04:20] <Random833> it's all links - the problem isn't with the link, it's with the app the link is clicked in
[04:20] <agrester> Anyone here have any experience in installing multiple Ubuntu's on the same machine?
[04:20] <Random833> this has happened with multiple links from within the terminal and from within thunderbird
[04:21] <holstein> Random833: i was referring to opening a link from chromium... seeing if firefox opened it
[04:22] <holstein> Random833: i linked some suggestions, but if the terminal is opening them in the browser you havent chosen, then its a system issue
[04:22] <holstein> Random833: thats what im trying to determine... is it a system wide issue where you have chosen a default browser and its not working, or is it just thunderbird... if its just thunderbird, try the above fix
[04:23] <holstein> if its more than just thunderbird, we can go from there
[04:23] <holstein> agrester: you mean, several installations? sure.. like dual or triple booting.. i have a test machine with lots of them
[04:23] <holstein> !grub | agrester
[04:23] <agrester> great
[04:24] <holstein> you might want to check that out ^^ since thats really the trickiest part in my opinion
[04:24] <agrester> holstein: heres my partition setup [WindowsXP][empty][Xubuntu][swap]
[04:24] <holstein> i used to install from the alternate installers, and just not install grub. go into what i would call the "main" OS and run sudo update-grub
[04:24] <agrester> I want to install normal Ubuntu with Unity to [empty]
[04:25] <holstein> agrester: you can have unity and XFCE
[04:25] <agrester> holstein: but in the past I had massive problems with this
[04:25] <agrester> there ended up being conflicts
[04:25] <agrester> have they improved the situation now?
[04:25] <holstein> agrester: shouldnt be
[04:25] <holstein> agrester: never should have been really. unless you had PPA's
[04:26] <agrester> I had PPA's
[04:26] <agrester> its just too messy
[04:26] <agrester> So whats the best way of installing that partition?
[04:26] <holstein> agrester: if i wanted what you are suggesting, i would run the alternate installer. i would put ubuntu in the middle on an custom partition and use the existing swap.. i would then not install grub, i would just update-grub from the other one and it'll pick it up
[04:27] <agrester> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1280521/
[04:27] <holstein> i currently have several DE's installed here though... XFCE, openbox... unity
[04:27] <agrester> Here's my fdisk output
[04:27] <holstein> agrester: if you have the empty space you mentioned above, just use that
[04:28] <agrester> Ok
[04:28] <holstein> agrester: put an ext4 partition there and do it all in one like ubuntu does it, or customize from there
[04:28] <holstein> agrester: use an alternate and dont blow out the grub.. or use the normal CD and blow it out and use the grub that comes with it
[04:29] <agrester> I see, so on my current Xubuntu primary install I should only have Grub installed there, but on the second install to the empty space not install grub?
[04:29] <agrester> And when I run update-grub it will include the new '/' Ubuntu?
[04:30] <holstein> agrester: should, did for me... feel free and read up on grub though
[04:32] <agrester> ok, are there any guides to the alternate installer?
[04:34] <holstein> agrester: im sure there are somewhere.. dont lose sleep over it. the new install of grub should pick up your old ubuntu and windows as well
[04:34] <holstein> just do what is easy for you and read that page so you understand what is going on and how you can recover if need be
[04:35] <agrester> ok
[04:38] <agrester> Holstein to be exact: when I boot up the "do something else" option of the installer do the following: 1) format empty as ext4 2) select that partition and configure it to mount '/' the root 3) DO NOT select for that partition to install the "bootloader"?
[04:39] <agrester> Then 4) go back to Xubuntu and run 'sudo update-grub' and sit back...
[06:23] <ner0x> Good morning. How can I stop my X server so I may run Xorg -configure?
[06:41] <Rropicana> I have tryed all night to use the Wubi fil to install linux... The only version that works now is Ubuntu:( Tryed everything to get Xubuntu worked but it didnt. I have also tryed Lubuntu with no good resulte
[06:56] <Shirakawasuna> Are you dedicated to using wubi, Rropicana? I ask because a standard installation may work better.
[07:37] <[deXter]> Hey
[07:37] <[deXter]> *Hi all
[07:58] <[deXter]> Does anyone know of a book - printed or electronic - for Xubuntu?
[07:58] <[deXter]> Aimed at novices, mind you.
[07:58] <apm1> [deXter], the official ubuntu book , shall cover that ?
[07:59] <[deXter]> nope
[07:59] <[deXter]> apm1, the novice in mind (my Dad) would get confused between ubuntu's unity and XFCE :P
[07:59] <[deXter]> He's pretty new to computers
[08:00] <apm1> [deXter], man , as you are aware there is no noobs's guide to *nix land in our galaxy ;)
[08:00] <[deXter]> I know, I know. :(
[08:01] <[deXter]> I already taught him all the basic operations but he lives in a different country and wants to have like a proper book for reference.
[08:01] <apm1> [deXter], introduce thy father to the holy jargon files , and make a knight(haker) out of him :p
[08:48] <Kingsy> anyone just randomly been removed from sudoers and su fails to authenticate?
[08:48] <Kingsy> happened randomly one morning
[08:49] <apm1> Kingsy, it happend to me XD
[08:49] <Sysi> sounds like you're confusing su and sudo
[08:50] <Kingsy> Sysi: both don't work
[08:50] <Kingsy> apm1: really??? how did you fix it?
[08:50] <apm1> Kingsy, add yourself again to sudoers  and then reboot :)
[08:51] <Kingsy> apm1: how? su doesnt work..
[08:51] <Kingsy> visudo: /etc/sudoers: Permission denied
[08:51] <apm1> but that was debian squezze, should work on xubuntu too :)
[08:51] <apm1> i hope the root passwords still works ?
[08:51] <Kingsy> apm1: like I said, I cant login using su
[08:52] <Kingsy> apm1: visudo says that ^^
[08:52] <Sysi> Kingsy: select failsafe from grub menu, you can get there by holding shift while/before booting
[08:52] <Kingsy> I don't know what else to try..
[08:53] <Kingsy> someone in #linux recommended booting from a livecd so I am downloading one of them now
[08:54] <Kingsy> Sysi: the failsafe?
[08:55] <Sysi> IDK what's the actual name, "the other option in grub menu"
[08:55] <apm1> rescue ?
[08:56] <Kingsy> Sysi: what I mean is, what does it do? boot into xubuntu? or a tty? or?
[08:56] <Sysi> you can select what to do, one option is root terminal
[08:56] <Kingsy> ahhh cool..
[08:56] <Kingsy> so I could visudo from there
[08:56] <Kingsy> I am gonna reboot then :)
[09:02] <Kingsy> Sysi: ok, got into a root terminal
[09:03] <Kingsy> su returned nothing.. the username was root
[09:03] <Kingsy> visudo said "This is a read only filesystem" or something along those lines
[09:03] <Kingsy> so it still didnt work
[09:05] <flegu> what are you trying to do?
[09:06] <Kingsy> flegu: one morning, booted up and my user, although I am able to login to the system.. is no longer a sudoer,   su fails to authenticate and using the recovery root terminal I still cant use visudo as I mentioned above
[09:06] <Kingsy> flegu: basically I am just trying to get root privs back
[09:06] <Kingsy> I have no idea what happened.. but like I said, it just "did" this one morning
[09:07] <flegu> Whoa, sounds scary :O
[09:07] <apm1> Kingsy, come , abandon the buntus and live with us in squezze land :)
[09:08] <Kingsy> flegu: yeah, can you recommend anything?
[09:08] <Kingsy> apm1: that doesnt really help my problem
[09:09] <apm1> Kingsy, well , it certainly does , reinstalling will give you your root privliges back ;)
[09:09] <flegu> Kingsy, not really. I thought you just wanted to open something with root privlidges so I was about to suggest sudoing :D
[09:09] <Kingsy> apm1: agreed but I really didnt want to re-install if I could help it
[09:09] <flegu> and you can't login as root?
[09:10] <Kingsy> no
[09:10] <Kingsy> like I said, it errors even from a root terminal from grub#
[09:10] <Kingsy> something about a read only file system
[09:10] <flegu> so you can't edit the sudoers file... that sucks
[09:11] <Kingsy> yep
[09:49] <Kingsy> well I got that fixed through a livecd
[09:56] <Kingsy> btw I wanted to ask before.. what is the hell is sqeeeeze or whatever was said ealier ?
[11:04] <Kingsy> apm1: you around?
[11:04] <apm1> yup
[11:04] <Kingsy> what were you talking about before .. leaving *ubuntu and going to sqeeeze or something? I think you said "sqeeze"
[11:04] <Kingsy> but I cant really remember..
[11:04] <Kingsy> just curious
[11:05] <apm1> yes i meant moving to debian 6.0.6 , as i have :)
[11:05] <Kingsy> so how come your still hanging in here? if you don't use the distro I mean
[11:05] <apm1> because i love the community , right now i am facing a hardware issue and need some help :p
[11:06] <Kingsy> ah... so what made you move?
[11:06] <apm1> the rocksolid stability compared to the buntus :)
[11:06] <Kingsy> I find xubuntu is alright.. nowhere near the bloat that ubuntu carries.. and its xfce so you don't have the gnome crap
[11:06] <apm1> imho gnome2 ain't crap
[11:06] <nicekiwi> hey, Ive installed the Nvidia drivers in xubuntu 12.10 and rebooted and ive lost all window borders and themes etc. But they work fine in the guest account. How can I fix this?
[11:06] <Kingsy> I hate it..
[11:07] <Kingsy> personal preference of course
[11:07] <apm1> and debian7 wheezy will have xfce as the default desktop :)
[11:07] <nicekiwi> *MATE :P
[11:07] <Kingsy> ah cool
[11:07] <Kingsy> yeah xfce is the way to go for sure.. tis fast and nice imo
[11:08] <apm1> has anyone ever uncoverd a modem port on a thinkpad before ?
[11:08] <nicekiwi> how do I get root control on guest mode?
[11:09] <apm1> nicekiwi, su
[11:09] <nicekiwi> apm1, that does not work, says Authentication Failure (And i  KNOW my password is correct)
[11:10] <apm1> Kingsy, looks like your problem is now a bug :p
[11:10] <nicekiwi> apm1, uncovered?
[11:10] <Kingsy> apm1: how so?
[11:10] <Kingsy> I fixed it btw
[11:11] <apm1> nicekiwi, the modem port is coverd by somesorta hard plastic
[11:11] <Mathias> burn it
[11:11] <nicekiwi> apm1, on my thinkpad the modem port is naturall uncovered
[11:12] <apm1> nicekiwi, naturally as in ?
[11:12] <nicekiwi> apm1, as in, it came like that.
[11:12] <apm1> Mathias, then why do i have something shove up the modem port ? XD
[11:13] <Mathias> shoving stuff up there is unhealthy
[11:13] <apm1> does anyone know a thinkpad proctologist here ?
[11:15] <apm1> Mathias, i didn't shove anything in it , lenovo did it at the factory XD
[11:26] <Kingsy> apm1: what do you mean the problem is a bug? someone has submitted a bug report?
[11:26] <TheSheep> can you guys take it to #hardware or wherever?
[11:27] <apm1> we already took it to offtopic
[11:27] <TheSheep> cool, thanks
[13:05] <xubuntu052> hi! my new xubuntu user, thanks
[13:06] <baizon> hi
[13:06] <xubuntu052> xubuntu fast true ?
[13:07] <baizon> yes
[13:07] <torax> short answer yes
[13:08] <xubuntu052> windows enough :)
[13:09] <Kingsy> windows enough?
[13:09] <xubuntu052> microsoft windows :)
[13:11] <frank-man> hi guys, where is on 12.10 the xorg.conf ?
[13:13] <Sysi> it hasn't been in default installation in years, you create one with sudo Xorg -configure after stopping xserver
[13:15] <frank-man> Sysi, thx
[13:40] <Industrial> If I install a window manager like i3 (tiling windo manager) then my keyboard settings that I made in xfce are not reflected. I still have the keyboard where I have to press '" etc twice to get the characters, which is quite annoying imho. How do I get this to work with 1 keypress systemwide?
[13:42] <Sysi> Industrial: are you using it with xfce or as separate session?
[13:44] <Industrial> as a separate session. Iḿ not sure I'd like to use it WITH xfce (though certainly an option to explore, id have to turn off workspaces in xfce etc?)
[13:45] <Sysi> workspace settings are part of window manager
[13:46] <Sysi> you don't have xfce settings because you're not using xfce session, you need to find out how to apply them in i3 session
[13:48] <Industrial> Well, somehow the system (without xfce) is setting the keyboard layout aswell, I was hoping I could just change that.
[13:59] <TheSheep> Industrial: sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
[14:11] <v1adimir> guys I can't seem to find why tracepath isn't working ( http://paste.ubuntu.com/1281129/ ) and I'm incompetent to make a new version to try ( http://www.skbuff.net/iputils/ ) any help? :)
[14:16] <v1adimir> is it my router? confusing because i can ping.. traceroute used to work to some hosts before I wiped the system clean yesterday & now nada http://paste.ubuntu.com/1281162/
[14:26] <baizon> try to ping your router
[14:26] <v1adimir> baizon: i can ping it and traceroute/tracepath to it
[14:26] <baizon> check your firewall config
[14:27] <v1adimir> opening ports on it works to, never had a problem
[14:27] <v1adimir> sudo ufw disable makes no diff
[14:35] <baizon> i mean the firewall on your router
[14:39] <v1adimir> maybe i will somehow manage to build it from http://www.skbuff.net/iputils/ and i'll try a direct connection before that :\
[14:39] <v1adimir> tnx baizon
[14:51] <xubuntu977> hi world
[14:52] <xubuntu977> i'm testing for live cd xubuntu 12.10
[14:52] <xubuntu977> it is good
[14:52] <baizon> welcome
[14:52] <xubuntu977> very very speed
[14:53] <GridCube> :)
[16:35] <john_rambo> how to create desktop shortcuts ?
[16:39] <GridCube> for what?
[16:40] <john_rambo> GridCube, Firefox & etc
[16:40] <GridCube> drag the entry on the main menu bar and drop it where you want it
[16:40] <Sysi> drag and drop from menu
[16:41] <john_rambo> Got it. Thanks
[17:30] <lawe> Why does Ubuntu have to make a whole new distro just to use a different desktop enviroment?
[17:31] <GridCube> ?
[17:31] <Sysi> !offtopic
[17:31] <lawe> This is kinda on topic.
[17:32] <lawe> Why does Xubuntu exist?
[17:32] <GridCube> !derivative
[17:32] <GridCube> !derivatives
[17:32] <Sysi> !flavor
[17:32] <martinphone> i need to dowload a full webpage as a jpg file, but it is a protected one, I mean Its a BfA page (Bundesagentür für Arbeit), thats the german employment service and to access to it I had to write a name and password
[17:32] <martinphone> Shutter wont do the trick, can you help me out?
[17:32] <GridCube> flavor is it
[17:33] <holstein> martinphone: i would just take a screenshot
[17:33] <Sysi> lawe: xubuntu isn't really different distro than ubuntu, it's just different installation disk
[17:33] <GridCube> martinphone, there are firefox addons for that kind of stuff
[17:33] <GridCube> or print it to pdf
[17:33] <martinphone> holstein, its a large large page
[17:33] <holstein> martinphone: you could take several and edit them together
[17:34] <martinphone> how do I print to pdf with ff?
[17:34] <lawe> well what happens when I want to install KDE? Xubuntu would no longer be Xubuntu
[17:34] <Sysi> it would be xubuntu with kde installed, quite close to kde
[17:34] <TheSheep> lawe: it's all one distribution, just different defaults
[17:36] <holstein> martinphone: i usually open what i want in libre/open office and export to pdf after formatting the way i want
[17:37] <martinphone> o...
[17:38] <holstein> any pdf printer system wide will be used by ff... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=140815 for example.. not sure how current that info is
[17:39] <GridCube> martinphone, i go to >file >print and choose as pdf
[17:39] <KidDeath10k> Why does Chrome hate Xubuntu? It refuses to save as the default browser. :(
[17:40] <Sysi> it tries to save to wrong place, just tell it to stop nagging and use setting dialog of xubuntu
[17:40] <KidDeath10k> Then again, it could be VirtualBox being silly because (although I fixed it) it refused to save my window resolution :|
[17:40] <holstein> KidDeath10k: i have chrome by setting it in the terminal
[17:41] <KidDeath10k> command please?
[17:41] <KidDeath10k> and when I say window, I mean screen ;o
[17:42] <holstein> sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[17:43] <KidDeath10k> There is only one alternative in link group x-www-browser: /usr/bin/google-chrome
[17:43] <KidDeath10k> Nothing to configure.
[17:43] <KidDeath10k> Yet, when I restart the VM. It's like "Nope. Sorry, gotta tell me again bro."
[17:43] <Sysi> chrome lies
[17:44] <KidDeath10k> It's better than Firefox by far though.
[17:44] <KidDeath10k> I used to love love love Firefox, now they've simply gone down hill as of late.
[17:44] <holstein> KidDeath10k: works for me... what is opening? ff?
[17:44] <KidDeath10k> It just opens a dialogue saying.. one sec.
[17:44] <Sysi> 666
[17:45] <KidDeath10k> Derp, it wants to work now because I've already told it 1000 times what to use. :S
[17:45] <KidDeath10k> but if I restart the VM now, i'll do the same thing.
[17:45] <KidDeath10k> I had to edit the xorg file to fix the screen resolution. I'd save it using the GUI, restart the VM then it goes back to 800x600 ._.
[17:46] <KidDeath10k> but that's fixed.
[17:47] <KidDeath10k> Now it displays the VM in a wonderful 1920x1080 resolution at all times on one of my screens.
[17:48] <martinphone> thx GridCube , the pdf thing worked
[17:48] <GridCube> :P good
[17:48] <KidDeath10k> Also, where in the world do you all get these nifty commands from? Constant googling or is there some sort of book I've missed completely?
[17:48] <GridCube> KidDeath10k, do you have the vbox extras installed?
[17:49] <KidDeath10k> Yes, I do.
[17:49] <KidDeath10k> Which, speaking of that I have no scroll wheel support. :S
[17:49] <GridCube> KidDeath10k, there is two tools on your system, they are called man and info
[17:49] <KidDeath10k> Put it to the man to give you some info?
[17:50] <Sysi> google, askubuntu, ubuntu wiki and locally there's apropos
[17:51] <KidDeath10k> You know, believe it or not - as much as I love wiki's and online documentation. Nothing beats the physical book. Just got around to picking up "Unix and LINUX System Administration Handbook, 4th Edition"
[17:51] <baizon> books are for old people :D
[17:52] <KidDeath10k> I love books, my good sir.
[17:52] <KidDeath10k> because PDFs can be lost
[17:52] <KidDeath10k> File corruption, computer being stolen etc.
[17:52] <baizon> KidDeath10k: Cloud (Ubuntu One) will fix it ;)
[17:52] <KidDeath10k> But is not a single a soul in the world going to steal a book.
[17:53] <KidDeath10k> Yeah, but I have at least 600+ GB of data to back up ;)
[17:53] <baizon> but its an offtopic, so if you like to talk feel free to join #xubuntu-offtopic
[17:53] <KidDeath10k> Yeah, sorry, back to my main issue then
[17:53] <GridCube> KidDeath10k, ever heard of fires? like the pompeii ones? what if pompeii had a backup server on rome?
[17:53] <KidDeath10k> How do I fix my scroll wheel?
[17:53] <Sysi> KidDeath10k: do you have guest additions installed?
[17:54] <KidDeath10k> Yes, I do.
[17:54] <Sysi> correct version?
[17:54] <KidDeath10k> Fresh install of VirtualBox and Xubuntu, so I assume yes?
[17:54] <KidDeath10k> I could be wrong.
[17:56] <genii-around> There are some packages which if you install them want to pull in X for some reason. Like ffmpeg
[18:09] <KidDeath10k> PRAISE THE NINE DIVINE. THE SCROLL WHEEL NOW WORKS.
[18:09] <baizon> nice to hear
[18:10] <blackgatonegro> have you guys tried play on linux? I heard it makes wine a piece of cake
[18:10] <GridCube> sometimes it might
[18:10] <blackgatonegro> I would, but I still think wine is for whiners, but then, I do emulate android so...
[18:11] <GridCube> there are very good programs that only work on windows, like irfanview or notepad++
[18:12] <blackgatonegro> notepad++ = Gedit, bluefish
[18:12] <GridCube> not really
[18:12] <blackgatonegro> irfanview, gthumb  and like a dozen more
[18:12] <blackgatonegro> yes really
[18:12] <GridCube> not really, no
[18:12] <GridCube> :D
[18:12] <blackgatonegro> bluefish is awesome
[18:12] <GridCube> !ot
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[18:52] <fatpudding> BROH
[18:52] <fatpudding> need priv...
[18:53] <TheSheep> fatpudding: excuse me?
[18:54] <fatpudding> rookie
[18:59] <Calysonia> Hey all!
[19:01] <baizon> welcome fellow xubuntu user
[19:02] <Calysonia> I just got a Macbook Pro, and I'm curious as to how compatible it'll be. As in, multitouch and whatnot working so that I can right click and whatnot.
[19:03] <baizon> Calysonia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[19:03] <Calysonia> Hero of the day right here! thank you!
[19:58] <levith> hi
[20:35] <john_rambo> When I amtrying to modify network connections via network manager Xubuntu is not asking for password is this normal ? It used to ask for password before iirc
[20:37] <Sysi> it doesn't ask for password unless you choose "use for all users"
[20:40] <john_rambo> Sysi, available for all users is selected
[20:41] <Sysi> if you were asked for password less than 15 mins ago, it won't be asked again
[20:42] <john_rambo> Sysi, No I didnt enter my password in this session & I also did sudo -k in run
[21:18] <BitPuffin> Hey guys, here is a little bug report thing. Please change it so that /usr/share/gvfs/mounts/network.mount has AutoMount to false by default. It is what causes the annoying delay when launching Thunar. Basically Thunar checks the network when launching and since it isn't concurrent it won't show up until the check finishes. I think it will make a lot of users happy, so be sure to have it in 12.10! The delay only happens if you cli
[21:18] <BitPuffin> ck network now, and that's understandable. You don't need for it to be automatic
[21:18] <BitPuffin> cheers
[21:19] <BitPuffin> Hopefully there's a dev in here
[21:25] <TheSheep> !bugs | BitPuffin
[21:29] <kcxzero> That bug has already been reported
[21:32] <kcxzero> also, it doesn't have to do with xubuntu I believe. It's Thunar's problem. Last I checked it wasn't "high priority" which I believe it should be. It's quite a turn off if you don't know the fix.
[21:32] <BitPuffin> Yeah I found it
[21:32] <BitPuffin> and commented to push it up a bit
[21:32] <kcxzero> nice
[21:33] <BitPuffin> it should be very high priority when it's such an easy fix
[21:33] <BitPuffin> Although it could be a good idea for the Thunar guys to make the network searching threaded
[21:33] <BitPuffin> But anyways, xubuntu could update the packaging and send it upstream :)
[21:34] <kcxzero> I think technically it would be considered a workaround since it does not actually fix it?
[21:34] <kcxzero> like you were saying if you click network you still have to wait
[21:34] <BitPuffin> kcxzero, Yeah, so really it needs to be threaded
[21:35] <kcxzero> true
[21:35] <BitPuffin> hm
[21:35] <BitPuffin> I could fix that
[21:35] <BitPuffin> unless it is already fixed
[21:35] <BitPuffin> and if I have time lol
[21:37] <kcxzero> do it lol
[21:41] <BitPuffin> should be simple enough
[21:41] <BitPuffin> it is just C
[21:42] <BitPuffin> and C11 is pretty widely supported so threading isn't an issue :)
[21:42] <kcxzero> I don't know C, so I'm out haha.
[21:42] <BitPuffin> C is pretty simple
[21:43] <BitPuffin> it just looks like balls
[22:27] <ner0x> How can I stop moving the moving of a window from going to another desktop?
[22:28] <ner0x> As in, pushing it too far to the edge causes it to go to desktop 3/4, etc.
[22:51] <xubuntu244> doo doo dah... waiting for the installer to run....
[23:29] <xubuntu995> hello
[23:32] <GridCube> hi
[23:38] <KidDeath10k> Hola.
[23:38] <GridCube> hola KidDeath10k :)
[23:38] <GridCube> !hi | KidDeath10k
[23:53] <ner0x> Anyone using xfce know how to turn off the "if I move the window too close to the edge it switches desktops" feature?
[23:53] <xubuntu107> Hello, i have  a problem with  xubuntu interface and i cant restore to the original interface from after installation
[23:54] <ochosi> ner0x: yes, go to settings > window-manager settings > advanced > "wrap workspaces when dragging a window off the screen"
[23:55] <ner0x> ochosi++ # thank you, that was very bothersome.
[23:55] <ochosi> ner0x: np
[23:56] <xubuntu107> yes the option was choice, but the dick bar inst like the original the icons has lost and the tha
[23:56] <xubuntu107> task bar lose some icons like sound, lan, and battery