[05:38] <ScottK> More testing needed.  I got a bit of a start, but it's almost 2AM here, so I'm done.
[05:39] <shadeslayer> ScottK: that backtrace seems incomplete
[05:39] <shadeslayer> #18 0x0804855b in ?? ()
[05:40] <ScottK> I installed every dbg package I could think of.
[05:41] <ScottK> I'll try it again.
[05:41] <ScottK> It takes awhile to crash, so I'll let it go while I'm sleeping.
[05:41] <shadeslayer> sure
[05:42] <Kalidarn> hmmm rohangarg isn't around is he
[05:43] <Kalidarn> i just want to ask him if he's forgotten about his promise in bug 923587 :)
[05:44] <ScottK> Kalidarn: That's shadeslayer.
[05:44] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: did workspace build?
[05:44] <shadeslayer> oh I knew I was forgetting something
[05:44] <shadeslayer> Kalidarn: doing
[05:44] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: yes https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental
[05:45] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: cheers
[05:45] <Kalidarn> awesome shadeslayer 
[05:45] <apachelogger> heading to uni now, bbi2hrs or so
[05:45] <shadeslayer> bye
[05:45] <Kalidarn> shadeslayer: would you mind pinging me when it's ready to be tested
[05:46] <shadeslayer> Kalidarn: iirc this will also need openconnect backported, I'm not sure if that's a viable option, but, I'll have a look first
[05:46] <shadeslayer> sure
[05:46] <Kalidarn> yeah i know it will
[05:46] <Kalidarn> but its kinda annoying that it wont work  until the next release of the whole distribution
[05:47] <Kalidarn> and yes i know about the command line openconnect client can be used (we're doing that atm)
[05:47] <Kalidarn> but we'd like to be able to have it in network manager so we can specify DNS servers for the VPN link
[05:47] <Kalidarn> so the only viable solution is the network manager patch
[05:48] <shadeslayer> well ... lemme try building openconnect to see if it requires even more build deps
[05:48] <Kalidarn> :)
[05:48] <shadeslayer> *build deps to be backported
[05:49] <shadeslayer> yay, builds without modifications
[05:51] <shadeslayer> Kalidarn: will be uploading to https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental
[05:51] <Kalidarn> kk
[05:52] <Kalidarn> ill be able to test it in a few hours
[05:52] <Kalidarn> im not at work at the moment,
[05:53] <Kalidarn> also shadeslayer, -- Much appreciated.
[05:53] <shadeslayer> no problem :)
[05:55] <shadeslayer> Kalidarn: both networkmanagement and openconnect have been uploaded to that ppa, they'll take a couple of hours to build, let me know if they work for you
[05:55] <shadeslayer> I'll keep an eye out if the build fails and fix accordingly ( I don't think they'll fail )
[05:56] <Kalidarn> awesome shadeslayer 
[05:56] <Kalidarn> i wil do
[05:56] <Kalidarn> i like making ubuntu better :)
[05:57] <Kalidarn> if after a few weeks i haven't noticed any problems or had reports of it
[05:57] <Kalidarn> then we might be able to move it to the backports ppa for everyone
[05:57] <Kalidarn> (we use it heavily so we will discover problems i there are any)
[05:57] <Kalidarn> and the one employee using kubuntu, is also a QA person lol.
[05:57] <shadeslayer> :D
[05:57] <Kalidarn> the kind that loves to break things :D
[05:58] <Kalidarn> (but that is what he is paid to do)
[05:58] <shadeslayer> as for moving to -backports, that's up to the ubuntu backports team to decide, I'll file the request though
[05:58] <Kalidarn> yup
[05:58] <Kalidarn> just file as pending test
[05:58] <Kalidarn> cos we wouldn't want you pushing something broken in there
[05:58] <shadeslayer> hehe, yeah :)
[06:10] <shadeslayer> Kalidarn: any particular reason it needs a newer openconnect?
[06:10] <Kalidarn> you mean the network connection thing
[06:11] <Kalidarn> no we can work with any version of openconnect the problem is the network plugin
[06:11] <shadeslayer> networkmanagement, yes
[06:11] <Kalidarn> uses a function only provided in the newer version of openconnect
[06:11] <shadeslayer> oh okay
[06:11] <Kalidarn> and the openconnect dev said its not going to be backported
[06:11] <Kalidarn> its mentioned in the openconnect changelog
[06:11] <Kalidarn> now 
[06:11] <Kalidarn> OpenConnect v3.20 (PGP signature) — 2012-05-18
[06:11] <Kalidarn>     Cope with non-keepalive HTTP response on authentication success.
[06:12] <Kalidarn>     Fix progress callback with incorrect cbdata which caused KDE crash.
[06:12] <Kalidarn> however, for some reason networkmanagement requires 3.99+
[06:12] <shadeslayer> hmmm
[06:12] <Kalidarn> (which was the release after
[06:12] <Kalidarn> it jumped from 3.20 to 3.99
[06:12] <Kalidarn> then 4.00, 4.01, 4.02
[06:12] <Kalidarn> im guessing 4+ is a major release
[06:12] <Kalidarn> and 3.99 was just a bug fix release.
[06:12] <Kalidarn> http://www.infradead.org/openconnect/changelog.html
[06:12] <Kalidarn> really all of ubuntu probably should eventually be updated to 3.99
[06:13] <Kalidarn> i doubt it would cause much of an issue
[06:13] <Kalidarn> 3.20 also brought another bug fix: Cope with non-keepalive HTTP response on authentication success.
[06:16] <Kalidarn> although i can expect the following release quantal will be built against 4+
[06:16] <shadeslayer> hm, network-management cmake says it should depend on 3.99 and above
[06:16] <Kalidarn> because that will have a newer version of gnutls
[06:16] <Kalidarn> yep
[06:16] <Kalidarn> no doubt the network-manager developer is of the opinion
[06:16]  * shadeslayer adds build depend versioning
[06:16] <Kalidarn> you should be using the latest most bug-fixed version in the 3.X branch
[06:16] <Kalidarn> or a 4 version
[06:16] <Kalidarn> probably he doesn't want you using a buggy 3.X build
[06:17] <Kalidarn> and considering 3.20 (which his package certainly requires) is only one release behind 3.99
[06:17] <Kalidarn> it makes sense
[06:17] <Kalidarn> > Eliminate all SSL library exposure through libopenconnect.
[06:17] <Kalidarn> was a 3.99 fix
[06:17] <Kalidarn> to me that sounds like a good idea
[06:18] <shadeslayer> aye
[06:18] <Kalidarn> so yeah
[08:41] <shadeslayer> Kalidarn: packages all built btw
[08:42] <Kalidarn> nice
[08:42] <Kalidarn> i should check that soon
[08:55] <apachelogger> R doesn't even have a name yet?
[08:55] <apachelogger> Oo
[08:57] <apachelogger> seems mark was busy arguing amazon buying ad space in unity ^^
[08:58] <smartboyhw> ^^
[09:11] <apachelogger> +  * kwinrc: Add back two desktops, else pointless pager widget
[09:12] <apachelogger> Riddell: would it not make more sense to remove the pointless pager :?
[09:14] <Riddell> apachelogger: yes probably but it's a bit late in the cycle, I feel it needs a bit of discussion
[09:16] <apachelogger> well, upstream does not use virtual desktops
[09:17] <apachelogger> which supposedly makes sense because ScottK actually has a bug against kds in which he complains that to him activities and vdesktops are somewhat the same so he does not like the activity widget and pager being in the panel
[09:17] <apachelogger> (I also do not like it but rather because both of them eat too much space)
[09:22] <apachelogger> ./usr/share/kde4/apps/kconf_update/adjustlevelstool.upd
[09:22] <apachelogger> how I love not-installed entries without comment
[09:23] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: !
[09:30] <shadeslayer> ?
[09:33] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: digikam
[09:33] <apachelogger> you added a whole bunch of uncommented crap to not-installed
[09:33] <apachelogger> please be checking and add comment or fix
[09:37] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1066892] initial power profiles do not use suspend support @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1066892 (by Harald Sitter)
[09:38] <shadeslayer> hmm
[09:38] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: needs fixing indeed
[09:39] <shadeslayer> needs to be added to digikam.install
[09:39] <shadeslayer> should I also upload to archive?
[09:39] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I thought archive was frozen?
[09:40] <shadeslayer> exception?
[09:40] <apachelogger> nah, SRU
[09:40] <shadeslayer> okay
[09:41] <apachelogger> please add impact description stuff and comment on bug 781728
[09:41] <apachelogger> I'll simply SRU all icon stuff from current bzr I suppose
[09:41] <apachelogger> seems all worthwhile
[09:43] <shadeslayer> yeah
[09:44] <shadeslayer> I was just going to say that ;)
[09:44] <apachelogger> I like how digikam bundles half of linux and then builds it
[09:45] <shadeslayer> heh
[09:45] <shadeslayer> iirc there's a similar bug on lp
[09:46] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: bug 658047
[09:48] <shadeslayer> packaging fixed in bzr btw
[10:45] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: are you working on ff 16 + kde bits?
[10:46] <shadeslayer> or should I go ahead and update
[11:38] <shadeslayer> !find XML/Simple.pm
[11:40] <Quintasan> retarded
[11:40] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: my first java assignment was to make a pay calcuator xD
[11:40] <shadeslayer> hah
[11:41] <shadeslayer> that was my first C++ assignment I think
[11:41] <Quintasan> I went home after 20 minutes
[11:41] <Quintasan> We have 90 minutes of each course
[11:41] <shadeslayer> calculated taxes and what not depending on pre specified conditions
[11:41] <shadeslayer> lol
[11:41] <Quintasan> mind you, I had no Java experience whatsover xD
[11:42] <smartboyhw> XD
[11:42] <shadeslayer> neither did I :P
[11:43] <shadeslayer> but anywho, whoopie, that's an additional 70 minutes you can contribute to kubuntu :P
[11:43]  * shadeslayer waves fist at pbuilder
[11:44] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:46] <shadeslayer> hi BluesKaj
[11:46] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: >implying I had access to wireless in the damn building
[11:46] <BluesKaj> hi shadeslayer
[11:46] <shadeslayer> heh
[11:48] <Kalidarn> shadeslayer: so far so good
[11:48] <shadeslayer> \o/
[11:48] <Kalidarn> it all seems to be working correctly
[11:48] <Kalidarn> we will watch it over the next few days
[11:48] <shadeslayer> awesomeness, I'll copy it over to kubuntu backports for even wider testing :)
[11:49] <Kalidarn> oh and the DNS stuff is now working
[11:49] <Kalidarn> properly
[11:49] <shadeslayer> I would recommend purging that ppa and getting the update from kubuntu backports ;)
[11:49] <Kalidarn> because before what was happening when using openconnect via the terminal
[11:49] <Kalidarn> kk
[11:49] <Kalidarn> is it was using the local set DNS
[11:49] <Kalidarn> not the one provided by the VPN connection
[11:50] <Kalidarn> so it would go employee > employee's isp dns > employee > vpn
[11:50] <Kalidarn> resulting in slow lookups
[11:50] <Kalidarn> using that network manager plugin though seems to resolve that
[12:16] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: I find our Samba settings software crap
[12:16] <shadeslayer> use sambamounter ?
[12:16] <Quintasan> How the hell do I simply share a folder without password?
[12:17] <shadeslayer> right click folder > properties > Sharing ?
[12:17] <shadeslayer> s/ing//
[12:17] <kubotu> shadeslayer meant: "right click folder > properties > Shar ?"
[12:17] <Quintasan> :/
[12:18] <Kalidarn> i actually dislike the way KDE does mounting
[12:19] <Kalidarn> it mounts to an object does it not?
[12:19] <Kalidarn> so you can't say access it via the terminal, when you've used KDE to mount things
[12:19] <Kalidarn> which is why i've always used sshfs
[12:51] <ScottK> apachelogger: Let's remove the pager in "R".  If nothing else, it'll keep the screen shots accurate.
[12:56]  * ScottK notes no ISO testing got done while he was asleep ...
[12:56]  * ScottK looks around.
[13:08] <Quintasan> ScottK: What ISO testing? I did amd64 and i386 manual partitioning and full disk installs
[13:18] <ScottK> Quintasan: Since the last respin?
[13:18] <ScottK> Don't see it: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/240/builds
[13:19] <Quintasan> I did them like, yesterday
[13:19] <Quintasan> oh
[13:19] <Quintasan> well
[13:21] <danimo> ScottK: how is Kubuntu dealing with the Ubuntu SNI patch for Qt?
[13:21] <danimo> ScottK: does it implement SNI?
[13:21] <ScottK> I don't think we've done anything with it.
[13:21] <ScottK> It's there in Qt, of course, so it can be used.
[13:21] <ScottK> Riddell: ^^^?
[13:23] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: I started working on ff16-kde btw
[13:32] <yofel_> what was SNI again?
[13:37] <danimo> yofel_: System Notifcation Interface?
[13:38] <danimo> yofel_: anyway, Unity's answer to all systray problems
[13:38] <danimo> yofel_: it's basically a large hack from the Qt perspective
[13:38] <danimo> yofel_: and the author ran from the company
[13:39] <yofel_> ah, you mean the indicators?
[13:39] <yofel_> my memory was failing me
[13:58] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: kk, busy with SRUs anyway
[13:58] <apachelogger> anyone with precise around?
[13:58] <shadeslayer> moi
[13:59] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: with 4.8?
[13:59] <shadeslayer> nope
[13:59] <shadeslayer> 4.9.2
[13:59] <apachelogger> you are no use :P
[13:59] <apachelogger> ScottK: you surely have a 4.8 machine?
[14:02] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: uh god, please make your changelog entry more descriptive
[14:02] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: digikam?
[14:02] <apachelogger> that will so totally get rejected for SRU
[14:02] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: yes
[14:03] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: while you are at it... there is a double whitespace in the first entry ;)
[14:04] <shadeslayer> where
[14:04] <shadeslayer> ah
[14:04] <shadeslayer> ok
[14:04] <apachelogger> oh
[14:04] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: actually your change is unrelated to what I was complaing about :P
[14:04] <shadeslayer> :P
[14:05] <shadeslayer> what were you complaining about?
[14:07]  * shadeslayer is utterly confused right now
[14:07] <shadeslayer> not to mention these build estimates are all wrong
[14:08] <apachelogger> lol
[14:08] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I was complaining about the icons primarily
[14:09] <shadeslayer> okay, the xpm.d ones? or the ones that you added from list-missing?
[14:09] <apachelogger> the ones without comment in not-installed
[14:09] <shadeslayer> right
[14:10] <apachelogger> bug 658047
[14:10] <shadeslayer> right
[14:11] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: SRU otherwise ready
[14:12] <apachelogger> sorta
[14:12] <apachelogger> your bug has no SRU content :P
[14:12] <shadeslayer> :P
[14:12] <shadeslayer> there's no code change whatsoever, so there's no impact per se :P
[14:16] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: "An explanation of the bug on users and justification for backporting the fix to the stable release."
[14:16] <apachelogger> impact: none; justification: none :P
[14:16] <apachelogger> fixed your bug already
[14:17] <apachelogger> allee: anything else that we might be able to fix in this SRU?
[14:17] <shadeslayer> hahah
[14:17] <danimo> yofel: yes
[14:18] <apachelogger> :O bug 1051266
[14:19] <shadeslayer> hah, another qemu builder https://code.launchpad.net/builders/peryton 
[14:19] <shadeslayer> wut
[14:20] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: interesting how he tries to install a GUI app on a system that has no pulse
[14:21] <apachelogger> that does not even make sense
[14:21] <apachelogger> digikam depends on phonon which depends on libphonon which depends on libpulse-mainloop-glib which depends on libpulse which contains libpulse-common
[14:21] <shadeslayer> *nod*
[14:21] <shadeslayer> broken system ?
[14:22] <apachelogger> oh, hold on
[14:22] <apachelogger> actually he is right
[14:22] <apachelogger> only his bug still makes no sense
[14:23] <apachelogger> digikam: error while loading shared libraries: libpulsecommon-1.0.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[14:23] <apachelogger> precise contains pulse 1.1
[14:23] <shadeslayer> lol
[14:23] <apachelogger> !find libpulsecommon-1.1.so
[14:23] <apachelogger> !find libpulsecommon-1.1.so precise
[14:23] <apachelogger> ubottu: also fu
[14:23] <ScottK> apachelogger: I do.
[14:24] <apachelogger> ScottK: ppa:apachelogger/ppa workspace should fix bug 1066892
[14:24] <apachelogger> if you could check that'd be awesome
[14:26] <Riddell> danimo: we have a patch kubuntu_14_systemtrayicon.diff
[14:26] <Riddell> which says "Introduce a plugin system for QSystemTrayIcon. Designed to be used with sni-qt"
[14:27] <Riddell> that'll be agateau's work
[14:27] <ScottK> apachelogger: It's a desktop.  How would I check that?
[14:27] <apachelogger> oh
[14:28] <apachelogger> actually let me look at the code real quick
[14:29] <apachelogger> ScottK: I think it should still create the profiles
[14:29] <apachelogger> the lid stuff may simply be greyed out
[14:29] <ScottK> OK.  I'll try and look at it later today.
[14:29] <apachelogger> tia
[14:31] <danimo> Riddell: yes, I know
[14:32] <danimo> Riddell: I know, but does KDE use sni-qt?
[14:32] <danimo> Riddell: my understanding was that SNI was Unity-specific
[14:33] <Riddell> danimo: right, sni-qt isn't installed as part of Kubuntu
[14:33] <apachelogger> danimo: plasma has its own SNI implemenation
[14:33] <Riddell> only an Ubuntu Desktop system
[14:33] <danimo> apachelogger: but plasma does not use sni-qt?
[14:33] <apachelogger> nope
[14:33] <apachelogger> it does not
[14:34] <danimo> apachelogger: I am having odd problems with ownCloud on Unity, but it works fine on Gnome and KDE
[14:34] <danimo> apachelogger: hence the suspicion that the SNI patch is at fault
[14:34] <danimo> apachelogger: and it's hard to reproduce in a condensed example for some reason
[14:35] <apachelogger> use plasma then :P
[14:35] <apachelogger> if gnome and kde works I am reasonable certain sni-qt is at fault though
[14:35] <danimo> apachelogger: I will gladly forward that request to our users
[14:36] <danimo> apachelogger: but I doubt that our customers will switch to Plasma just because of us
[14:36] <apachelogger> actually your users could start shouting at canonical
[14:36] <danimo> apachelogger: sure, I just want to make sure it can't be solved on an engineering level
[14:37] <danimo> apachelogger: before pulling the mgmt lever
[14:37] <Riddell> danimo: do other systray apps work?
[14:37] <apachelogger> danimo: well, what is the problem anyway?
[14:37] <danimo> Riddell: yes
[14:38] <Riddell> danimo: qt ones?
[14:38] <danimo> Riddell: yepp
[14:38] <danimo> Riddell: skype f.e. works
[14:39] <Riddell> hmm well should be possible to narrow down what owncloud-client does differently?
[14:39] <shadeslayer> test packages for ff16 with KDE patches building https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental
[14:39] <danimo> Riddell: I am trying that
[14:39] <Riddell> danimo: got hold of agateau?
[14:39] <danimo> Riddell: a trivial rebuild of the GUI cannot reproduce the problem
[14:39] <danimo> Riddell: he says it's too long ago
[14:40] <danimo> Riddell: http://daniel.molkentin.de/.stuff/sni_bug.png
[14:40] <danimo> apachelogger: ^^
[14:40] <apachelogger> 404
[14:40] <danimo> err
[14:40] <danimo> sec
[14:41] <danimo> apachelogger: now
[14:41] <Riddell> that looks like it's working?
[14:41] <danimo> Riddell: look closer
[14:42] <danimo> Riddell: two entries are "outdented'
[14:42] <danimo> Riddell: and they are not clickable
[14:42] <danimo> Riddell: and sometimes items get duplicated
[14:42] <danimo> Riddell: at the same time, separators are missing
[14:42] <apachelogger> danimo: where can I get that client?
[14:42] <danimo> Riddell: removing all separators but the first works around the problem for me, but I have no idea how reliable this is given the unknown root cuse
[14:43] <apachelogger> or rather, where is the source?
[14:43] <danimo> apachelogger: OBS/github
[14:43] <danimo> apachelogger: http://owncloud.org/sync-clients/
[14:43] <bdmurray> somebody emailed me about http://www.kubuntu.org/feature-tour being empty
[14:44] <danimo> apachelogger: check http://software.opensuse.org/download/package?project=isv:ownCloud:devel&package=owncloud-client for the repo
[14:44] <danimo> apachelogger: pull dependencies from there
[14:44] <apachelogger> Riddell: didn't we have that in the archive too?
[14:44] <Riddell> apachelogger: we do indeed, owncloud-client
[14:44] <apachelogger> ah
[14:44] <danimo> Riddell: probably not 1.1.0 though
[14:45] <danimo> apachelogger: https://github.com/owncloud/mirall
[14:45] <danimo> apachelogger: use the 1.1 branch
[14:45] <Riddell> bdmurray: you're not the first person I'd think to e-mail about problems with the kubuntu website
[14:47] <apachelogger> oh
[14:47] <apachelogger> QSystemTrayIcon
[14:47] <apachelogger> I wonder if that even gets made into a SNI on plasma
[14:49] <apachelogger> the related qt patch is outragous
[14:51] <danimo> apachelogger: ack
[14:52] <danimo> apachelogger: it's complex and undocumented
[14:54] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1066892] initial power profiles do not use suspend support @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1066892 (by Harald Sitter)
[14:55] <apachelogger> -- Could NOT find Csync (missing:  CSYNC_LIBRARY CSYNC_INCLUDE_PATH) 
[14:56] <apachelogger> that's funny
[14:56] <apachelogger> !find libinotify
[14:56] <apachelogger> !find libinotify.so
[14:56] <apachelogger> Oo
[14:59] <danimo> apachelogger: we have renamed our copy of libcsync
[14:59] <danimo> apachelogger: it's now called libocsync
[14:59] <danimo> apachelogger: it's packaged in obs, just take a look there
[15:00] <apachelogger> oh
[15:00] <apachelogger> well, I am suffering from cmake being crap anyway
[15:03] <Kalidarn> shadeslayer: 
[15:03] <Kalidarn> im seeing The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[15:03] <Kalidarn>  openconnect : Depends: vpnc-scripts but it is not installable
[15:03] <Kalidarn> now
[15:03] <shadeslayer> @_@
[15:03] <Kalidarn> when i removed your ppa
[15:04] <shadeslayer> give me a couple of minutes
[15:04] <shadeslayer> Kalidarn: also, update your sources and tried again?
[15:04] <Kalidarn> yeah i did
[15:04] <Kalidarn> i might have to reboot too
[15:04] <Kalidarn> i accidentally, removed network-manager
[15:05] <Kalidarn> and had to manually set up a network interface lol, to get internet access again :)
[15:05] <Kalidarn> ive done that though
[15:05] <shadeslayer> heh
[15:05] <Kalidarn> was not very smart of me
[15:05] <apachelogger> danimo: in case you have contact with the iniparser dev... the tar appears to be double gzipped
[15:05] <Kalidarn> brb
[15:06] <danimo> apachelogger: not at all, sorry
[15:06] <Riddell> apachelogger: we patch out iniparser in our packages
[15:06] <danimo> apachelogger: I'd like to drop that dependency
[15:06] <Riddell> danimo: have you considered doing the same?
[15:06] <danimo> apachelogger: but the csync author wants to keep it
[15:06] <Riddell> ah
[15:06] <danimo> Riddell: not our call, unless we fork csync for good
[15:06] <apachelogger> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[15:06] <danimo> Riddell: libiniparser had some grave bugs
[15:06] <apachelogger> roflmao
[15:07] <danimo> apachelogger: yeah, lets not talk about things like install targets
[15:07] <apachelogger> ^^
[15:07] <Riddell> danimo: port to KDE Frameworks 5 :)
[15:07] <apachelogger> <3 high quality free software
[15:07] <danimo> Riddell: haha
[15:07] <danimo> Riddell: what did you replace it with?
[15:08] <Riddell> bdmurray: it's https://rt.ubuntu.com//Ticket/Display.html?id=20296 but I can't even log into the website currently
[15:09]  * apachelogger is now doing manual so linking :D
[15:10] <Kalidarn> shadeslayer: so i've fixed networkmanager, removed your private ppa, but am not able to install openconnect from backports
[15:11] <shadeslayer> lemme check if the package was published in backports
[15:11] <shadeslayer> hm, maybe it had hard depped versioning
[15:12] <Kalidarn> yeah
[15:13] <shadeslayer> aha
[15:13] <shadeslayer> Kalidarn: do you require vpnc-scripts?
[15:13] <Kalidarn> yes
[15:13] <shadeslayer> okay
[15:13] <Kalidarn>  openconnect : Depends: vpnc-scripts but it is not installable
[15:14] <Kalidarn> was wondering why i was getting that error ;)
[15:14] <shadeslayer> yeah
[15:14] <apachelogger> application.cpp:(.text+0x3ac3): undefined reference to `csync_set_log_callback'
[15:14] <shadeslayer> lawl
[15:14] <Kalidarn> hey that
[15:15] <Kalidarn> s not as bad as the mistake i made earlier this night
[15:15] <Kalidarn> was trying to figure out why decryption on an iax trunk i was setting up was not working
[15:15] <Riddell> bdmurray: yay, sorted! http://www.kubuntu.org/feature-tour
[15:15] <shadeslayer> Kalidarn: test building vpnc scripts now
[15:15] <Kalidarn> turns out i missed the last letter of the password
[15:15] <Riddell> mparillo!
[15:15] <Kalidarn> iax trunk is asterisk trunk between two asterisk servers.
[15:15] <Riddell> guess what I just fixed
[15:15] <mparillo> The missing feature tour?
[15:16] <Riddell> mparillo: voila http://www.kubuntu.org/feature-tour
[15:16] <shadeslayer> are you sure the images are supposed to be cascaded in that way?
[15:16] <shadeslayer> looks weird in rekonq
[15:16] <Kalidarn> very classy
[15:16] <apachelogger> danimo: you install to ocsync/csync.h but your finder looks for simply csync
[15:16] <apachelogger> .h
[15:17] <danimo> apachelogger: which branch?
[15:17] <Kalidarn> the kopete screenshots are with the oxygen theme 
[15:17] <apachelogger> danimo: master
[15:17] <Kalidarn> those should be updated for consistency sake Riddell 
[15:17] <Riddell> shadeslayer: it's just copy and paste from what we had before but I guess drupal will add <br> about the place as it does
[15:17] <danimo> apachelogger: no, of csync
[15:17] <Riddell> but the nice thing is, we can not update it!
[15:17] <apachelogger> danimo: from obs
[15:17] <danimo> apachelogger: freitag.git/dav?
[15:17] <Riddell> Kalidarn: we havn't been able to until now
[15:17] <danimo> apachelogger: yes, that's that
[15:17] <shadeslayer> Kalidarn: vpnc-scripts uploading to backports ppa
[15:17] <danimo> apachelogger: that's bad then
[15:17] <mparillo> Riddell: That was not a restore, you got the bzr updates in. That means the text is fixed, though I think in rekonq, the vertical centering of the text in the five boxes is actually worse with the 'fix'.
[15:18] <Kalidarn> Riddell: why not?
[15:18] <danimo> apachelogger: not sure how obs gets it right
[15:18] <Riddell> Kalidarn: it was part of the drupal theme which we couldn't update
[15:18] <Kalidarn> oh
[15:18] <Riddell> mparillo: but now we can edit it!
[15:18] <Riddell> that's the whole point!
[15:18] <Riddell> we can edit our own website!
[15:19] <ryanakca> Ooooh :)
[15:19] <apachelogger> danimo: export CSYNC_DIR=/usr/include/ocsync
[15:19] <apachelogger> from the spec
[15:19] <apachelogger> bloody workarounds :@
[15:19] <mparillo> For most of our website, I can simply go to -admin version and change it, but not the feature tour. We had to do the bzr upload thing.
[15:19] <Riddell> so volunteers welcome for updating the feature tour :)
[15:21] <ryanakca> Riddell: So does that mean bzr branches can be pulled without a three month long review process?
[15:22] <Riddell> ryanakca: oh let's not go too far, it still needs a sysadmin request and wait for bzr update to happen
[15:22] <apachelogger> application.cpp:(.text+0x3ac3): undefined reference to `csync_set_log_callback'
[15:22] <apachelogger> something really hates me
[15:23] <Kalidarn> shadeslayer: how long till vpnc scripts will be available?
[15:23] <Darkwing> Riddell, apachelogger, This is strange... I came across it today. http://imm.io/I8Xk It says that version 2.0 is required and installed... Shoudln't that kill the error?
[15:23] <shadeslayer> lemme check
[15:23] <Kalidarn> Darkwing: that's a funny error
[15:23] <Darkwing> s/Shoudln't/Shouldn't/
[15:23] <kubotu> Darkwing meant: "Riddell, apachelogger, This is strange... I came across it today. http://imm.io/I8Xk It says that version 2.0 is required and installed... Shouldn't that kill the error?"
[15:24] <Darkwing> Kalidarn: I agree...
[15:24] <Riddell> Darkwing: yes I see that :(
[15:24] <shadeslayer> Kalidarn: about 30-35 minutes
[15:24] <apachelogger> Darkwing: it is broken beyond repair
[15:24]  * Darkwing snickers
[15:24] <apachelogger> needs to be dropped/replaced for R
[15:24] <Riddell> apachelogger was asking the other day about what to do with touchpad, that kcm is unmaintained
[15:24] <Kalidarn> im hoping someday people will solve the protocol problems with my latitude E6530
[15:24] <Darkwing> DAMMIT. My mouse seems to hate me.
[15:24] <Kalidarn> apparently synaptics updated the protocol and it's the first computer to have that touchpad
[15:24] <shadeslayer> Darkwing: iirc either valorie or Mamarok was suffering from teh same issue
[15:25] <Darkwing> I was just poking around... thankfully I don't need it.
[15:25] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: everyone suffers from this issue
[15:25] <Kalidarn> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45201
[15:25] <Kalidarn> might be fixed in quantal
[15:25] <shadeslayer> whee
[15:25] <Kalidarn> i probably should make a bug in launchpad about that
[15:25] <Kalidarn> https://resalxh.wordpress.com/2012/09/18/ubuntu-12-04-lts-x64-the-next-step-getting-touchpad-working/
[15:26] <Darkwing> This is Quantal...
[15:26] <Kalidarn> cos im pretty sure buntu prides itself on dell compatibility?
[15:26] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: not me
[15:26] <Darkwing> THIS... IS... QUANTAL!
[15:26] <Kalidarn> ya
[15:26] <shadeslayer> haha
[15:26] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: ah ok
[15:28]  * yofel wonders what broke the feature-tour CSS this time o.O
[15:28] <shadeslayer> yofel: aliens
[15:29] <Darkwing> Riddell: having computer issues again. I should be getting a desktop today so... That will help.
[15:29] <yofel> well, probably not. Rather me. Except that I tested this and someone confirmed that it worked
[15:29] <Darkwing> Riddell: I'll have the docs translations ready today... I should...
[15:32] <yofel> oh, drupal goes insterting nonsense <br>'s now, gee thanks
[15:33] <yofel> so the CSS is fine, the template is broken
[15:34] <Kalidarn> shadeslayer: should i go away and do something else or wait for  openconnect : Depends: vpnc-scripts but it is not installable
[15:34] <Kalidarn> to go away
[15:35] <shadeslayer> Kalidarn: update your sources in 15 minutes and try again
[15:35] <Kalidarn> kk
[15:35] <shadeslayer> vpnc-scripts is pending publication
[15:35] <Kalidarn> cos im gonna make a backup then try to get this touchpad working
[15:35] <shadeslayer> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports/+packages?field.name_filter=vpnc&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=
[15:41] <Kalidarn> its done now
[15:42] <yofel> anyone editing the feature tour right now?
[15:42] <yofel> mparillo or Riddell maybe? ^
[15:43] <mparillo> yofel: Not me. I am updating the bug reports in Launchpad.
[15:43] <mparillo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-website
[15:43] <shadeslayer> Kalidarn: looks like it can resolve deps now
[15:44] <yofel> I'm fixing the buttons, drupal seems to auto-translate \n to <br> -.-
[15:44] <shadeslayer> heh
[15:44] <apachelogger> danimo: may be a unity bug actually
[15:44] <yofel> meaning we'll probably need to fix more, but that's the worst thing for now
[15:45] <danimo> apachelogger: it most likely is :/
[15:45] <danimo> apachelogger: can you see it?
[15:45] <apachelogger> no unity here
[15:45] <apachelogger> danimo: do you have unity?
[15:45] <yofel> saved, in the hope that Riddell wasn't editing it
[15:45] <danimo> apachelogger: sure, I need to test it after all
[15:45] <apachelogger> danimo: dbus-monitor log and start mirall, then end the logging
[15:45] <yofel> MUCH better :D
[15:45] <danimo> apachelogger: and since we have customers on unity
[15:45] <danimo> apachelogger: I run it
[15:46] <apachelogger> here the menu introspection propagated looks correct
[15:46] <yofel> hm, those cascaded screenshots in the tour items don't even look bad... even if that's unintentional
[15:46] <shadeslayer> yeah
[15:47] <shadeslayer> they look okay
[15:47] <yofel> drupal being innovative :P
[15:47] <shadeslayer> :D
[15:47] <apachelogger> EHUNGRY
[15:47] <yofel> just the games item needs fixing
[15:48] <yofel> will do that once I get home if nobody else does it till then
[15:48]  * yofel makes his way home - bbl
[15:48] <shadeslayer> *now* they release kdevelop
[15:48] <yofel> hahaha
[15:49] <Riddell> yofel: you fixed the Games..Graphics..etc image links?
[15:49] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: kdevelop SRU'able?
[15:49] <apachelogger> hm?
[15:49] <apachelogger> if it fixes bugs only
[15:49] <shadeslayer> see kde-packagers
[15:50] <yofel> Riddell: the category buttons, yeah
[15:50] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: bits and pieces of ui changes
[15:50] <apachelogger> no goody
[15:50] <mparillo> yofel: Awesome, the titles on the tour boxes are vertically centered now in Rekonq. I will close the Launchpad bug.
[15:50] <shadeslayer> yeah
[15:50] <apachelogger> !info kdevelop quantal
[15:50] <apachelogger> hm
[15:50] <yofel> the only downside is that it looks ugly in the editor now, as the HTML for the buttons needs to be in 1(!) line
[15:51] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: talk to ubuntu-sru
[15:51] <apachelogger> might be worthwhile to not ship pre-release software -.-
[15:51] <shadeslayer> is there a #ubuntu-sru?
[15:51] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[15:51] <mparillo> Did you bzr branch lp:~kubuntu-website/kubuntu-website/kubuntu.org then edit the css and push?
[15:51] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: one option is to ask upstream for patches
[15:52] <shadeslayer> excluding the new welcome pages
[15:52] <yofel> mparillo: the feature-tour is now editable from the admin interface, no more php editing
[15:52] <yofel> the whole thing got broken as someone just C&P the template HTML into the drupal editor
[15:52] <apachelogger> danimo: in your screenshot are the orange thingies from unity?
[15:53] <apachelogger> danimo: also on a general note, I think the menu uses too many ...
[15:53] <yofel> a few things still need fixing on the page, but I'll do that once I get home
[15:53] <yofel> and now I'm really gone
[15:53] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: naeh, entire thing
[15:54] <shadeslayer> mm
[15:54] <danimo> apachelogger: I know I know
[15:54]  * shadeslayer runs script to upload to PPA
[15:54] <danimo> apachelogger: and by "the orange thingies" you mean the red markers that I added?
[15:54] <apachelogger> ah, what are they indicating?
[15:55] <apachelogger> Riddell: do you have an owncloud somewhere?
[15:55] <apachelogger> mine is horribly outdated
[15:56] <danimo> apachelogger: places where the menu goes crazy
[15:56] <danimo> apachelogger: it should have separators there
[15:56] <apachelogger> right
[15:56] <danimo> apachelogger: instead I see outdented, non-clickable entries
[15:56] <danimo> apachelogger: what happens is that the menu gets rebuilt
[15:57] <apachelogger> lol
[15:57] <danimo> apachelogger: (from the app side)
[15:57] <danimo> apachelogger: but if the app contains processEvent() calls, even the first time the menu is built it goes wrong
[15:57] <danimo> apachelogger: (adds some items twice)
[15:57] <Kalidarn> shadeslayer: it works
[15:57] <shadeslayer> \o/
[15:58] <danimo> apachelogger: but if SNI uses dbus, that explains a lot :/
[15:58] <danimo> apachelogger: I was suspecting asynchronous events to go mad somewhere
[15:58] <apachelogger> *nod*
[15:59] <Riddell> apachelogger: mm not just now but I could
[16:00] <apachelogger> Riddell: nvm, seems mine is still new enough ^^
[16:01] <skaet> Riddell,  anything release critical to get in for Kubuntu before next round of respins?
[16:03] <Riddell> skaet: no I don't think we have anything in the pipe
[16:03] <skaet> cool.   Also in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu, are the system requirements accurate
[16:03] <skaet> ?
[16:04] <apachelogger> says 12.04 there
[16:05] <Riddell> skaet: good question, I'll test that out today
[16:06] <skaet> Thanks Riddell.  :)
[16:09] <mparillo> There does not seem to be a building block for the page footer (with the copyright 2010) in the blocks: https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/admin/build/block Is the footer implemented in a different way?
[16:09] <Riddell> mparillo: hmm why do I suspect that's part of the theme?
[16:11] <ScottK> skaet: I think you can remove Kubuntu powerpc now.  We only got limited test results and they weren't good.
[16:11] <Riddell> mparillo: yes it is :(
[16:12] <skaet> ScottK.   ok,  I'll remove it from the manifest and the tracker then.  (it may show up on a respin, but will remove it, if so)
[16:12] <ScottK> OK
[16:15] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yes on the kdevelop SRU, else we're shipping a release candidate
[16:16] <mparillo> So the default theme is Kubuntu 10.04. I wonder if configure brings up anything interesting?
[16:17] <Riddell> mparillo: theme of what?
[16:18] <Riddell> Darkwing: so docs translations?  or shall I release note bug 459476 again?
[16:18] <mparillo> I was trying to fix the footer on the pages to ready copyright 2012 instead of 2010. I just cannot find the footr.
[16:20] <Riddell> mparillo: well it's in the theme
[16:20] <Riddell> mparillo: in lp:~kubuntu-website/kubuntu-website/kubuntu.org
[16:20] <mparillo> OK, I will poke around a bit harder. It used to be in footer.tpl.php
[16:21] <Riddell> mparillo: still is surely? "&copy; 2010-<?php date('Y') ?> The Kubuntu community. Icons copyright of Oxygen icon theme"
[16:22] <mparillo> Right, and it does not substitute the current year for 2010. I thought I would edit it live with the www-admin web ui. Do I need to bzr branch? 
[16:24] <Riddell> mparillo: yes, it's in the theme unforunately
[16:24] <Riddell> the date not working is just a mystery
[16:24] <shadeslayer> Riddell: added to TODO for tomorrow then
[16:25] <mparillo> I was tempted to just har-code it. I have just installed bzr on my new vm. Now to play around with my keys IIRC. Then branch, edit, and commit
[16:50] <Riddell> KDE plasmoid tutorial and getting involved tutorial still to go on ada lovelace day http://community.kde.org/AdaLovelaceDay/2012
[16:56] <mparillo> For me to bzr push, I need to have my keys in order. I thought I had to copy my ssh key from Launchpad to .ssh/id_rsa.pub but was there another step?
[16:59] <Mamarok> is there a PPA for plsmate?
[16:59] <Mamarok> plasmate*
[17:00] <Riddell> mparillo: you'd need to have the private key, don't you have that?
[17:00] <Riddell> Mamarok: no, remind me again what that is
[17:00] <Riddell> ?
[17:00] <Mamarok> apparently an editor to write QML plasmoids
[17:00] <Mamarok> and needed for the ongoing tutorial
[17:03] <Mamarok> Riddell: http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/PlasMate
[17:06] <Riddell> Mamarok: what version and what platform?
[17:07] <Mamarok> well, I don't know, I just know that it is used in the ongoing tutorial
[17:08] <Mamarok> no wonder, apparently it is still alpha software
[17:08] <Mamarok> how stupid to base a tutorial on that
[17:08] <mparillo> Riddell: Thanks. Somehow I thought I could keygen the other direction also. Fortunately I had saved my private key. I have pushed revision 13 to address: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-website/+bug/745631
[17:09] <Riddell> Mamarok: here it is incorrectly named for i386 quantal starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/krename_4.0.7-1ubuntu1_i386.deb
[17:09] <mparillo> But we still need to request the admins perform the update?
[17:09] <Mamarok> Riddell: thanks a bunch!
[17:12] <Mamarok> hm, doesn't install on my 64bit system: trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/plasmawallpaperviewer', which is also in package kde-workspace-bin 4:4.9.2-0ubuntu2
[17:12] <Riddell> Mamarok: it's i386
[17:13] <Mamarok> I know, I will build it from git
[17:13] <Riddell> and it just packages what's in the git archive so that's upstream's fault
[17:13] <Riddell> I like blaming others :)
[17:13] <Mamarok> yeah, so stupid to require alpha software for a tutorial without telling anyone beforehand
[17:13] <Mamarok> you are absolutely right
[17:17] <Riddell> !find FindQGpgme.cmake
[17:26] <Riddell> Mamarok: here is it for quantal amd64 http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/krename_4.0.7-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[17:27] <Mamarok> Riddell: you rock!
[17:28]  * shadeslayer whispers neon-env;neonmake
[17:28] <Mamarok> same error as before: trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/plasmoidviewer', which is also in package kde-workspace-bin 4:4.9.2-0ubuntu2
[17:29] <Riddell> dpkg --force-overwrite krename_4.0.7-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb  if your friend
[17:43] <shadeslayer> anyone have an idea on bug 1063317
[17:43] <shadeslayer> I fear I'm not particularly familiar with translations
[17:46] <Riddell> shadeslayer: well is there a ru.po file?
[17:46] <Riddell> nice post on google+ page "Mingoáo BąOct 11, 2012
[17:46] <Riddell> +3
[17:46] <Riddell> Is it possible to be in love with an OS and GUI . . ?  -  Well I'm totally in love, besmirched, smitten, head over heels, downright crazy for Kubuntu/KDE.﻿"
[17:48] <yofel> shadeslayer: don't expect KDE folks to keep translations intact for point releases, maybe they removed it?
[17:49] <Riddell> yofel: why would they do that?
[17:49] <shadeslayer> Riddell: :D
[17:49] <Riddell> although I see calligra did that
[17:49] <yofel> yeah, that's what I was talking about - I also remember a case where they removed part of a language to fix another
[17:49] <yofel> but I can't remember the exact place
[17:49] <shadeslayer> -rw-r--r-- root/root      1151 2012-10-05 23:53 ./usr/share/locale/ru/LC_MESSAGES/kcm_ktp_accounts.mo
[17:50] <shadeslayer> from https://launchpadlibrarian.net/118542627/buildlog_ubuntu-quantal-amd64.ktp-accounts-kcm_0.5.1-0ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[17:50] <micahg> yofel: bug 1008729
[17:50] <shadeslayer> however : Package: kde-telepathy 0.5.0ubuntu1 : on the bug
[17:50] <shadeslayer> which makes everything a but suspect
[17:50] <yofel> micahg: ah, right, that was it ^^
[17:51] <shadeslayer> hm, I think Riddell forgot to upload meta-kde-telepathy 
[17:51] <shadeslayer> :P
[17:52] <shadeslayer> I have it here in my PPA : https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/nightly
[17:57] <Riddell> shadeslayer: uh oh
[17:58] <shadeslayer> ^_^
[17:58] <Riddell> shadeslayer: what will this break?
[18:00] <shadeslayer> afaik nothing
[18:00] <shadeslayer> because it's all : >= ${ktp:Version}
[18:00] <Riddell> oh good, so I was just saving wasted effort then, clever me
[18:01] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1066861] Plasma-netbook freezes after clicking on 'Page one' in the panel @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1066861 (by Philip Muškovac)
[18:02] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: anything new in Muon we should put in the announcement?
[18:04] <JontheEchidna> Not many shiny new things in Muon. Mostly under-the-hood improvements that should make things just a bit smoother.
[18:04] <JontheEchidna> http://jontheechidna.wordpress.com/2012/08/17/muon-suite-1-4-0-released/
[18:05] <JontheEchidna> Next release will have some stuff to write about, though :)
[18:09]  * yofel continues with fixing the feature-tour
[18:10]  * shadeslayer heads for bed
[18:14] <yofel> meh, you can only disable auto-<br>-insert for the whole website :(
[18:25]  * jussi zooms in, hi5's shadeslayer, does a happy litlle jump and sits down. 
[18:25] <jussi> Hi everyone!
[18:28] <yofel> hi jussi
[18:28] <jussi> Heya yofel, how are things going?
[18:30] <yofel> busy, we could use some more iso testers and our webpage got updated but I'm now fixing the feature-tour layout
[18:33] <yofel> oh
[18:33] <yofel> turns out that most of our pages use Plain HTML, not Full HTML
[18:34] <yofel> so maybe I can turn that annoyance off after all
[18:35] <yofel> "most" doesn't include the front page -.-
[18:36] <jussi> heeh
[18:36] <yofel> ah well
[18:36] <yofel> guess I'll make 1 line out of the feature-tour HTML....
[18:37] <jussi> when is release day again? 
[18:37] <yofel> day after tomorrow
[18:37] <yofel> ...
[18:38]  * yofel ponders an unreadable feature-tour source over having to fix the rest of the website -.-
[18:44]  * yofel takes the 2nd option
[18:46] <yofel> not that much to fix after all
[18:56] <ScottK> Got a new idea for "R" codename: Roasted Rabbit.
[18:58] <micahg> Rascally Rabbit sounds better :)
[18:58] <Sentynel> I think you'll find that's Wascally Wabbit
[18:59] <micahg> shhh..that's 15.10 :)
[18:59] <yofel> Red Rooster!
[19:00] <yofel> Riddell: webpage fixed
[19:00] <yofel> others are encouraged to look through it and search for odd formatting
[19:05] <JontheEchidna> my bet on the animal is "Roadrunner"
[19:21] <jussi> JontheEchidna: Rabid Roadrunner?
[19:21] <JontheEchidna> :P
[19:32] <ScottK> OK, so since I upgraded to quantal, solid only finds one battery on this laptop.  Is there an easy way to see if it's the kernel's fault or solid's?
[19:36] <yofel> ScottK: how many batteries does 'upower --dump' show?
[19:36] <yofel> I also only get one battery recognised on boot btw.
[19:36] <yofel> the other one works, but only show up after disconnecting it or suspend IIRC
[19:36] <yofel> don't have it at hand right now
[19:36] <ScottK> One.
[19:36] <ScottK> So I guess that makes it no solid's fault.
[19:36] <yofel> then it's the kernel or udev/upower/uwhatever...
[19:37] <yofel> you could check in dmesg whether the batteries show up there
[19:37]  * yofel thought he reported a bug about that ages ago
[19:38] <yofel> I did - bug 913271
[19:41] <yofel> so....
[19:42] <yofel> back to iso testing
[19:48] <ScottK> yofel: I did Bug #1067495 so we'll see what happens between them.
[19:49] <yofel> fun, your kernel says you can have 3 batteries
[19:49] <yofel> [    0.702350] ACPI: Battery Slot [BAT0] (battery present)
[19:49] <yofel> [    0.702361] ACPI: Battery Slot [BAT1] (battery absent)
[19:49] <yofel> [    0.702366] ACPI: Battery Slot [BAT2] (battery present)
[19:50] <yofel> it does see 2 though
[19:51] <ScottK> Which may be the bug.
[19:51] <ScottK> It can only have two.
[19:51] <ScottK> So maybe it should be 0/1 and something up the stack is confused by 0/2.
[19:53] <dantti_laptop> ScottK: are both batteries listed in /sys?
[19:57] <dantti_laptop> ScottK: I guess you should have BAT0 and BATX there /sys/devices/LNXSYSTM:00/device:00/PNP0C0A:00/power_supply/   
[19:57] <jalcine> Where can I find the source for plasma-applet-menubar?
[20:02] <yofel> jalcine: apt-get source plasma-widget-menubar, or https://launchpad.net/plasma-widget-menubar
[20:05] <ScottK> dantti_laptop: No, only bat0
[20:08] <dantti_laptop> ScottK: try a similar path, if you don't find it then the kernel is to blame :P
[20:08] <dantti_laptop> on the PNP part I guess
[20:08] <ScottK> Thanks.
[20:09] <dantti_laptop> that reminds me I have to create a fix for my kernel patch but ugh compiling the kernel is sooo boring :P
[20:23]  * yofel just noticed that bug 350834 is still there ^^
[20:50] <yofel> meh, isos rebuilding again
[21:20] <ScottK> AFAIK this is last known rebuild.
[21:33] <yofel> hm...
[21:34] <yofel> someone please put on our Known Issues that the Touchpad Settings are broken. They complain about a wrong Xinput version (2.0 is too old, 2.0 or greater is required...)
[21:36] <ScottK> That's a bug in version detection, surely.
[21:37]  * yofel is taking a quick look
[21:39] <ScottK> I agree it should be release noted though.
[21:44] <Riddell> ScottK: it's on there
[21:44] <Riddell> or rather it's on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/QuantalQuetzal/Final/Kubuntu , next step it to go over https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu and sync
[21:44] <yofel> really? on which page?
[21:44] <yofel> ah yeah, was looking on the latter
[21:48] <ScottK> Thanks.
[21:50] <yofel> either synaptiks is making fun of me or that error is somewhere else
[21:50] <yofel> >>> print(synaptiks._bindings.xinput.query_version(synaptiks.x11.Display.from_name(), (2, 0)))
[21:50] <yofel> (True, (2, 0))
[21:51] <yofel> the real call is "matched, actual_version = xinput.query_version(display, (2, 0))", so maybe display is just wrong
[21:55] <ScottK> I'm looking at that now.
[21:56] <yofel> ScottK: this makes the kcm work again, so it seems to be a broken display value somewhere http://paste.kde.org/571772
[21:57]  * yofel is off to bed, good luck
[21:57] <ScottK> Thanks.  That's a good clue.
[22:16] <ScottK> I have fix.
[22:16] <ScottK> Riddell:  is there a bug # for the synaptics thing?
[22:17] <ScottK> FOund it
[22:18] <genii-around> Possibly 1030500
[22:26] <ScottK> I went with 1039261 
[22:36] <ScottK> yofel and Riddell: Fix uploaded to quantal-proposed.
[22:36] <valorie> yes, it was me with the synaptics bug
[22:36] <valorie> also this laptop doesn't resume from suspend
[22:37] <valorie> but I don't think it worked before I upgraded
[22:37] <ScottK> valorie: If you want to edit a file as root on your machine, I can tell you what to change for the touchpad thing.
[22:37] <valorie> hmmm
[22:37] <valorie> might be better for me to wait for the upgrade?
[22:37] <valorie> or are you wanting a tester
[22:38] <ScottK> It'll be better for me if you wait and test the SRU.
[22:38] <valorie> cool
[22:38] <ScottK> Just offering if you were in a hurry.
[22:38] <valorie> hah, I see final has been spun
[22:38] <valorie> no, the opposite
[22:38] <ScottK> Maybe.
[22:38] <valorie> actually, quick question -- I was trying to upgrade the netbook, but now it won't boot into KDE
[22:39] <valorie> is this a known problem, and should I ask in -x ?
[22:39] <valorie> i386
[22:39] <valorie> upgrading this machine I'm on was flawless except for the touchpad and resume glitches
[22:51] <valorie> ha, I meant #ubuntu+1
[23:14] <valorie> well, I'll work more on it later tonight
[23:14] <valorie> for now, it's hosed
[23:19] <int_ua> Can anyone confirm that "Leave message" widget on unlock screen is broken? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=308340