[00:10] <simplew> when i try to in KDE move an icon from place in plasma panel i get an erro message saying that the protocol preferred is inknown, how can this be fixed?
[03:20] <dahlia> kubuntu 12.04 LTS 32 bit cd iso is too big to fit on a cd-r
[03:20] <dahlia> its 703 mb and cd-r is 700 mb
[03:20] <Corodius> ya, as of 12.04 they are changed to dvd images
[03:21] <dahlia> says cd on web page
[03:21] <dahlia> on download page
[03:22] <Corodius> oh maybe it was 12.10 sorry
[03:22] <Corodius> yeah the 3mb is no problem, will burn onto a cd-r
[03:22] <dahlia> no it doesnt
[03:23] <Corodius> If it doesn't try burning to a dvd then
[03:23] <Corodius> no big deal :) iirc i burnt mine to a dvd fine
[03:23] <dahlia> trying that
[03:23] <Corodius> I can't remember if it was 12.04 or 12.10 but I know the standard "cd" installer was being changed to dvd due to size issues
[03:24] <Corodius> which is why I burnt to a dvd at the time :)\
[03:24] <OerHeks> current 12.10 beta is just under 1 Gb .. you can still put it on a 1 gb stick
[03:25] <Corodius> ya, stick or dvd whichever is more convenient to you :)
[03:25] <dahlia> I had 11.10 and after I did a apt-get dist upgrade the nvidia stuff got all borked up so I tried kde mint and it was hopelessly bug-ridden so now im installing kubuntu 12.04 in another partition *crosses fingers*
[03:26] <Corodius> good luck :) I hope it goes well :D
[03:27] <dahlia> me too. Im surprised mint was so buggy after all the hype I heard
[03:27] <Corodius> ya, I have heard all the hype, but was not too impressed with it either tbh
[03:27] <Corodius> tis why I am back to Kubuntu :D
[03:28] <dahlia> woulnt have tried it except the dist-upgrade messed everything up so bad it scared me off
[03:29] <Corodius> ya, that bit kinda sucks :S would be good to know why that messed up, it shouldn't. But we all know things can :D haha
[03:29] <dahlia> I do a lot of gaming and graphics and all the opengl stuff was borked, I think it was in the x stuff somewhere
[03:30] <dahlia> kwin kept freezing up
[03:31] <Corodius> ouch :S never a good outcome for sure. By an outside chance, you didnt have x-swat or xorg-edgers ppa enabled before the upgrade did you?
[03:31] <dahlia> dont think so, Ive never heard of them
[03:32] <Corodius> ya, you would not then hehe, you would know if you did. :) they are ppas for latest and possibly unstable releases for drivers and xorg respectively
[04:29] <dahlia> well I installed 12.04 LTS and it fails on K display manager at startup
[04:30] <dahlia> fresh install
[04:30] <Corodius> hmm
[04:30] <dahlia> I did select download updates when I was installing
[04:30] <Corodius> k, first, are you using a seperate partition for /home?
[04:30] <dahlia> no
[04:31] <Corodius> k, rules that out
[04:31] <Corodius> downloading updates *shouldn't* matter, but perhaps it would be best to not select it, to rule that out aswell
[04:31] <dahlia> I think the ubuntu nvidia stuff upstream is borked
[04:32] <Corodius> well, I have no problem with it, either before or after installing the closed drivers
[04:33] <dahlia> I had problems with it on both mint and when updating 11.10 kubuntu
[04:33] <Corodius> unless it is a conflict with your card, but one would think the live installer would fail aswell, uses the same drivers as the desktop before closed source
[04:33] <Corodius> but, it *is* possible
[04:33] <dahlia> 8600gt
[04:33] <dahlia> been using with various linux systems for a couple years now, including kubuntu 11.10
[04:33] <Corodius> you get a text terminal to login yea?
[04:33] <dahlia> ya
[04:34] <Corodius> try logging in and doing sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[04:34] <Corodius> then restart
[04:34] <Corodius> that will install the closed source drivers
[04:34] <dahlia> k
[04:34] <dahlia> then sudo nvidia-xconfig also?
[04:36] <Corodius> the apt-get install should configure it all, but if it doesnt work then ya, do that aswell
[04:39] <dahlia> nope, fails on both
[04:40] <Corodius> any error messages?
[04:40] <shaju> no
[04:40] <dahlia> no
[04:41] <shaju> i mean i am a novice in chat
[04:41] <dahlia> no vice? pity :/
[04:41] <Corodius> haha that helps ^_^ lol always good when that happens. so the apt-get update fails? sounds like no network connection, possibly due to using wifi? which is definitely harder
[04:42] <dahlia> the update didnt fail
[04:42] <dahlia> the network works fine
[04:42] <Corodius> ok cool
[04:42] <dahlia> it downloaded and installed
[04:42] <dahlia> the x wont work
[04:42] <Corodius> so the nvidia-current install is what failed?
[04:42] <Corodius> aaaah
[04:42] <Corodius> right
[04:42] <Corodius> right
[04:42] <FloodBotK1> Corodius: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:42] <dahlia> the nvidia-current installed ok
[04:43] <Corodius> sorry haha, and woops ^_^
[04:43] <dahlia> over zealous flood bot?
[04:43] <Corodius> I will have to be more careful with my fast typing ^_^ lmao. Ya, very lol
[04:45] <dahlia> well I would consider truing to install without download updates selected, but then I'd be afraid to ever update
[04:45] <shaju> why silent
[04:45] <Corodius> it would be worth a try, to at least rule that out
[04:46] <dahlia> k
[04:46] <shaju> welcome
[04:47] <shaju> welcome dahlia
[04:47] <dahlia> ty shaju
[04:48] <shaju> i think i have intervened in yr converse
[04:52] <shaju> disconnecting
[05:09] <dahlia> Corodius I installed without checking download updates and the third party stuff and x server started when I rebooted
[05:10] <dahlia> but now I bet its using a basic driver and opengl wont work
[05:10]  * dahlia needs opengl
[05:28] <Corodius> ok no worries
[05:29] <Corodius> next, we will try just the drivers themselves
[05:29] <Corodius> nothing else
[05:29] <Corodius> and we will also use the very latest drivers
[05:30] <Corodius> from terminal, enter these: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[05:30] <Corodius> then: sudo apt-get update
[05:31] <Corodius> then goto the "Additional Drivers" option under "System" on KDE
[05:31] <dahlia> oh I installed nvidia-current already
[05:31] <dahlia> had this window covered :/
[05:32] <Corodius> haha no worries, so it worked ok?
[05:32] <dahlia> seems to so far
[05:32] <dahlia> is the ppa one different?
[05:32] <Corodius> it is, they are the very latest drivers from nvidia in that ppa
[05:33] <Corodius> but, if it is working, then should be ok :)
[05:33] <dahlia> oh I think mine uses the 173 stuff which hasnt been updated for a while
[05:33] <dahlia> 8600gt
[05:33] <Corodius> it sounds to me like the latest open source drivers are the problem
[05:34] <dahlia> could be
[05:34] <Corodius> so, you should be fine with updates and such, as you are on the nvidia drivers now.
[05:34] <dahlia> do the open source ones do acceleration?
[05:35] <dahlia> I also thought I heard there was an escalation bug in the closed ones
[05:35] <dahlia> ty for help :)
[05:36] <Corodius> open source do acceleration, if it works properly with your card. Often times, no lol. The escalation bug is possible, not sure on that one. also, no problems at all. :) Happy to help :D
[05:36] <dahlia> :)
[06:15] <dahlia> well all was going smooth and then synergyc keep segfaulting just like this: http://synergy-foss.org/spit/issues/details/3074/  so I copied the synergyc executable from my 11.10 install and it works now
[07:08] <mat619> Morning! Since I rather often use a mac at home currently, I'm thinking about modifiying my Kubuntu 12.04 workstation here to a more "macified" UI - just for the sake of unified usability/workflow. That brings me to a few questions:
[07:08] <mat619> a) What files do I have to backup to restore my current state of KDE4, in case I mess up this experiment? Is ~/.kde sufficient?
[07:09] <mat619> b) What modifications can you guys recommend to "macify" KDE4 a bit? Window button arrangement etc. speaks for itself, but I'm rather thinking of dock, global menu...?
[07:14] <lordievader> mat619: In .kde all of the kde config files are stored, however you are going to mess with themes, so unless you also need to edit the config files I would just backup the config files you edit. For the theme, I couldn't quickly find an mac one, but it is probably available here: http://kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=9
[07:15] <lordievader> mat619: Oh well this looks like it: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Leo-like-bespin+pack?content=118823
[07:19] <mat619> lordievader: thanks so far, I'll definitely not mess with existing themes, therefore .kde will do
[07:19] <mat619> lordievader: regarding the theme I'm not really thinking about looks, rather behavior/workflow - KDE4 itself looks quite good as it comes out of the box in 12.04 :)
[07:20] <lordievader> mat619: It was just an example, there are quite a few themes on kde-look, so check it out.
[07:20] <mat619> lordievader: yup, already on it
[07:22] <mat619> But especially regarding docks I'm sorta confused by all the different options. I've used cairo and awn years ago and haven't been really happy with both - turned out to be quite unresponsive and therefore annoying... dunno if they've changed to the better, any experiences?
[07:23] <mat619> And I couldn't find a global menu mod that people safely recommend as of now, all seem to be in beta state
[11:06] <oquidave> hello
[11:07] <oquidave> how do i give a certain user rights to shutdown and restart the pc
[11:07] <Peace--> oquidave: system settings
[11:07] <Peace--> oquidave: search box => shutdown
[11:08] <oquidave> i've asterisk pbx server running and i've writtena dialplan/prog that restarts the pc
[11:08] <oquidave> Peace--: okay
[11:08] <Peace--> oquidave: => login screen
[11:08] <oquidave> Peace--: serach box? i can't see one
[11:09] <shadeslayer> top left
[11:09] <Peace--> shadeslayer: top right
[11:09] <shadeslayer> ah yes
[11:09] <Peace--> oquidave: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/10/16/plasma-desktopx29986.png
[11:11] <oquidave> Peace--: oh i think to need to add that am switched to the ubuntu with gnome...however i've kde too...but i thought it's a general linux qn
[11:12] <oquidave> Peace--: perhaps via cli or so
[11:14] <Peace--> oquidave: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/10/16/plasma-desktopN29986.png
[11:16] <oquidave> Peace--: really looks simple, but i think i can login using kde and configure it this way
[11:24] <FlyingElvis> hello...im a recent convert from windows, currently using ubuntu, and im pretty comfortable with it, but im interested with kubuntu, how does it compare to ubuntu
[11:24] <shadeslayer> FlyingElvis: pretty much the exact same thing except with KDE :)
[11:24] <FlyingElvis> yes...and is KDE easy to use?
[11:24] <FlyingElvis> compared to unity?
[11:24] <shadeslayer> do you find it easy to use?
[11:24] <FlyingElvis> unity is easy for me
[11:25] <Peace--> FlyingElvis: easy ? that's is an opinion
[11:25] <shadeslayer> FlyingElvis: it really depends on whether you find it easy to use
[11:25] <FlyingElvis> KDE looks "flashier" to me from the youtube vids ive seen
[11:25] <shadeslayer> you can turn down the flashy-ness ;)
[11:25] <Smurphy> FlyingElvis: Unity is preventing you from doing the things like you want to. If you are a windows user type (e.g. used to do what the system tells you to do), stick to it. if you want to be able to tell the system what to do - you can try KDE.
[11:26] <FlyingElvis> i see
[11:44] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:17] <FlyingElvis> <just switched from ubuntu to kubuntu :)
[13:32] <hateball> FlyingElvis: yay
[15:10] <andreas> hi guys i got a little problem maybe someone can help me .... im using Kubuntu right now and after entering my password the desktop shows up and everything loads up just as it should.
[15:10] <andreas> But then a little messagebox appears (with a little "X"  top-left) telling me this: Invalid option; -session
[15:10] <andreas> Still everything works fine but this is just annoying :)
[15:12] <zizi> ηι
[15:12] <zizi> hi
[15:12] <andreas> hey
[15:12] <zizi> i just lost an libreoffice file because kubuntu crashed
[15:13] <andreas> sry for that
[15:13] <zizi> i cheked my home folder for .libreoffice folder to recover it but nothin happend
[15:13] <zizi> to folder doesnt exist
[15:14] <zizi> can i do somethin to recover it
[15:14] <zizi> ?
[15:15] <andreas> just readin through the web ...  have already looked up for  .libreoffice/3/user/backup?
[15:16] <zizi> yeap
[15:20] <andreas> hmm is the file just broken or completely deleted ?
[15:33] <andy__> Hey guys , some linuxgeeks around here who can help me out with a noob problem ? :)
[15:34] <lordievader> !ask | andy__
[15:35] <andy__>  i got a little problem maybe someone can help me .... im using Kubuntu right now and after entering my password the desktop shows up and everything loads up just as it should.
[15:35] <andy__> But then a little messagebox appears (with a little "X"  top-left) telling me this: Invalid option: -session .
[15:35] <andy__> thx
[16:02] <barcode> Hi, I want to be able to switch between 2 desktops, but there is nothing on the taskbar. How do I get it back? I looked on the gadgets list but it doesn't seem to be there.
[16:04] <SIR_Taco> barcode: add the 'Pager' widget to your taskbar
[16:04] <lordievader> barcode: You are looking for the pager, it is under the widgets.
[16:05] <barcode> oh, pager. thanks.
[16:05] <barcode> got it
[16:05] <SIR_Taco> barcode: also, CTRL F1 , F2, F3, etc. switches between virtual desktop 1, 2, 3, etc
[16:07] <barcode> hmm. The two windows I have open are on the second as well as the first.
[16:08] <SIR_Taco> barcode: right-click on your taskbar, select taskbar settings, and there is an option for 'only show windows from current desktop'
[16:10] <barcode> great
[16:28] <andy__> after login and while everything is loading i get this  message from  Xserver :   Invalid option: -session  .... can someone tell me what to do ?
[16:50] <Riddell> KDE plasmoid tutorial and getting involved tutorial still to go on ada lovelace day http://community.kde.org/AdaLovelaceDay/2012
[16:59] <sburjan`> hello. I have a problema with Kubutnu 12.04. My top bar (the one with close, minimize, maximize) has disappeared. Even after reboot
[17:19] <Peace-> sburjan`: nice
[17:20] <Peace-> sburjan`: rm  ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc
[17:20] <Peace-> then
[17:20] <Peace-> sburjan`: ALT F2  => type : kwin --replace
 after login and while everything is loading i get this  message from  Xserver :   Invalid option: -session  .... can someone tell me what to do ?
[17:30] <Guest28312> after login and while everything is loading i get this  message from  Xserver :   Invalid option: -session  .... can someone tell me what to do ?
[18:07] <Peace-> Guest34982:  sure
[18:07] <Peace-> Guest34982:  reboot , use the kernel recovery => at the first menu choose drop to shell o root sheel
[18:07] <Peace-> then sudo adduser newuser
[18:07] <Peace-> then
[18:07] <Peace-> sudo adduser newuser admin
[18:08] <Peace-> a new user will be created and so you can use that
[18:08] <Peace-> have you installaned a new kubuntu and you have used the same user name but you have changed thepassword ?
[18:09] <Peace-> Guest34982: http://nowardev.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/recoveryc.jpeg?w=630&h=465
[18:09] <Peace-> Guest34982: http://nowardev.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/aukckf6e.jpeg here there drop to root shell
[18:10] <Peace-> netroot i guess is an old name btw you need to get the shell
[18:10] <Peace-> that's enough
[18:50] <andy__> anyone ?
[18:52] <genii-around> andy__: If you just state to the open channel what issue you may be having with your Kubuntu, someone may know how to assist.
[18:53] <SIR_Taco_> genii-around: Peace- answered andy__'s question, while andy__ was known as Guest34982 above ^
[18:54] <genii-around> Ah, good then.
[18:57] <BarkingFish> Guys - can someone help me? How do I know whether I'm on a 32 or 64 bit version of kubuntu?
[18:57] <BarkingFish> I'm trying to download some code folding software, and it's offering me 64 bit as a default
[18:58] <SIR_Taco_> BarkingFish: in konsole, type: uname -a
[18:58] <SIR_Taco_> BarkingFish: if it says x86_64, you're on 64-bit
[18:58] <BarkingFish> looks like 32 bit then
[18:59] <BarkingFish> the end of that line says i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[18:59] <SIR_Taco_> yes, then 32-bit
[20:03] <Guest74135> Hello!  I've just updated to 12.04.1 and I'm trying to reconfigure my middle button to paste.  Nothing in the System Settings app seems to globally set this behaviour, does anyone have any suggestions of where else to look?
[20:07] <dmatt> Guest74135: middle button works as paste by default for all text you highlighted
[20:08] <Guest74135> dmatt, I've tried, but it middle-clicking brings up a menu (where I *can* choose to paste, but...).
[20:09] <dmatt> Guest74135: are you on Kubuntu? what application are you in?
[20:10] <Guest74135> Yes, Kubuntu 12.04.1 and this occurs on konsole and Firefox, at the least.
[20:11] <Guest74135> Chrome doesn't even bring up a menu (this is trying to paste into the location bar), the middle-click is ignored.
[20:13] <dmatt> Guest74135: did you press CTRL-C before?
[20:14] <Guest74135> dmatt: Since I mostly work in Unix, no.  I click-drag to select text, I can see it in Klipper, but I can't paste it back into my terminal session like I could with Kubuntu 10.04.4.
[20:16] <dmatt> Guest74135: i have up-to-date 12.04 and it works correctly as in 10.04, something is wrong in your setup
[20:17] <Guest74135> dmatt: Okay, do you have any suggestions on where to look?  I'm okay with digging around in X11's conf files, but I'm not sure where to start looking.
[20:18] <dmatt> Guest74135: I am looking around, because I remember setting some mouse based shortcuts in past but do not see it straight away right now
[20:19] <Guest74135> dmatt: Thanks, I appreciate your taking a look.  If you do find anything, I'm happy to experiment.
[20:24] <dmatt> Guest74135AFK: it in settings/WIndows bahaviour/windows bahaviour/actions for window - choose activate and send click (text might be little bit different, mine is localised so i am guessing)
[20:24] <Guest74135AFK> Okay, let me look.
[20:25] <Guest74135AFK> The middle button action is already "activate & pass click".
[20:26] <Guest74135AFK> dmatt: That's for the "Inactive Inner Window" pane.
[20:26] <dmatt> try to change it, save than change it back and save
[20:26] <Guest74135AFK> Okay
[20:28] <Guest74135AFK> dmatt: Changed, "Apply"ed, changed back to "activate & pass click", re"Apply"ed, but it still raises a menu in konsole and Firefox.
[20:29] <calwig> hi, so I have an x64 SU1400 intel processor
[20:29] <calwig> and I would like to know if kubuntu will work on it
[20:30] <calwig> here is what the Alternate CD install says: 64-bit PC (AMD64) alternate install CD Choose this to take full advantage of computers based on the AMD64 or EM64T architecture (e.g., Athlon64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon, Core 2). If you have a non-64-bit processor made by AMD, or if you need full support for 32-bit code, use the Intel x86 images instead.
[20:30] <calwig> its not AMD its intel, its compatible right?
[20:31] <BarkingFish> Evening all.  Got a problem this end - I've installed KDENlive and it says it's missing a dependency which I need for "previewing my DVDs" - something called Xine.  I've checked precise and we don't have xine packaged.
[20:31] <BarkingFish> Any ideas?
[20:31] <genii-around> calwig: Yes. "amd64" just means 64 bit ( AMD was the first to make them is all )
[20:31] <genii-around> !info xine
[20:32] <genii-around> Hm
[20:32] <calwig> I should have done this in the first place then ok, thanks genii-around
[20:32] <dmatt> Guest74135AFK: rightclick cashew/desktop setting/mouse actions :)
[20:33] <BarkingFish> genii-around, lemme run through the setup again and see if I can screenshot this, just to make sure I'm not looking for the wrong package.
[20:34] <Guest74135AFK> dmatt: that Middle-Button Mouse Action was already "Paste".  I tried setting it to something else, Applyed, set it back to Paste, reApplyed, still nothing.
[20:35] <Guest74135AFK> I think I'm cursed. :-)
[20:36] <dmatt> Guest74135AFK: i think your setting is OK, but something else is getting in the way... did you try any other non kde-gui way of setting it or dou you have any other desktop environment installed?
[20:37] <calwig> genii-around: kubuntu-12.04-dvd-amd64.iso  this version can be used with x64 then?
[20:37] <genii-around> calwig: Yes.
[20:37] <calwig> its 3.2Gb
[20:37] <Guest74135AFK> dmatt: No, I've been trying GUI-only solutions.  I don't think I have any other desktop env installed.
[20:37] <calwig> or of course the desktop version kubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64+mac.iso
[20:37] <calwig> ok coolers
[20:38] <calwig> gonna dl now
[20:38] <BarkingFish> genii-around, http://imgur.com/20FXD - I think i might be looking for the right package, unless it's a lib or something I'm missing
[20:39] <genii-around> BarkingFish: Did you install kdenlive from repositories?
[20:39] <BarkingFish> xine according to apt-get on the command line says it has no installation candidate
[20:39] <BarkingFish> yes
[20:39] <dmatt> Guest74135AFK: whay were you doing when it first failed to work correctly?
[20:40] <BarkingFish> i'm thinking of just hiccuping the release for Quetzal and upgrading now
[20:40] <BarkingFish> just can't remember how to do it :)
[20:44] <genii-around> BarkingFish: Perhaps try installing xine-console
[20:48] <BarkingFish> xine-console has gone in, i'll restart the kdenlive setup and have another go, genii-around :)
[20:49] <genii-around> BarkingFish: Hopefully it will have installed whatever libraries kdenlive is looking for
[20:50] <patrickw> sorry for obvious question, but is this the right place to ask support type questions for kubuntu? i have an external HDD that won't mount.
[20:50] <BarkingFish> big no on that, genii-around - kdenlive is still asking for xine
[20:52] <patrickw> ?
[20:53] <genii-around> BarkingFish: It seems the package which it is looking for should be xine-ui
[20:53] <genii-around> patrickw: Correct place to ask.
[20:53] <BarkingFish> patrickw, when you say it won't mount, are you getting any errors from it?
[20:53] <genii-around> !details
[20:53] <patrickw> yes of course
[20:53] <BarkingFish> ah, got that on install now genii-around :)  Thank you
[20:54] <patrickw> i'm running kubuntu 11.10
[20:54] <genii-around> patrickw: If you are getting some error when trying to mount it, what the error says might help us
[20:55] <patrickw> i was doing an rsync backup from my external hdd to a seagate external HDD, which I cancelled half-way through, then unmounted the disk, but I think my laptop disk drive was full when I did this. I have deleted some space now, but the external HDD won't remount
[20:55] <patrickw> i can see it in dolphin and the like
[20:55] <patrickw> but it won't allow me to access it
[20:56] <patrickw> i get the following error in dolphin when i try to access it:  An error occurred while accessing 'Seagate Backup Plus Drive', the system responded: The requested operation has failed.: Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 13: $MFTMirr does not match $MFT (record 0). Failed to mount '/dev/sdb1': Input/output error NTFS is either inconsistent, or there is a hardware fault, or it's a SoftRAID/FakeRAID hardware. In the first case
[20:58] <genii-around> patrickw: Yes, unwritten/partly written data would mess up the file tables. etc.  If you still have Windows somewhere the best thing is to run CHKDSK on it from in there, reboot to Kubuntu and try accessing it again
[20:58] <patrickw> i wiped windows when I bought the laptop to avoid the temptation of ever using it again. :(
[20:59] <genii-around> patrickw: Alternately, make a bootable USB stick with Freedos and chkdsk on it, do it from that
[20:59] <patrickw> that's an interesting idea/tip.
[21:00] <patrickw> is there a way of just testing the disk via linux?
[21:02] <calwig> All I can say is that Kubuntu on an Acer 1810TZ is holy Sh** fabulous. 1.3Ghz Core Duo, SU 1400 CULV super great low voltage, 128SSD.4GBRAM,HDMI, I get up to 8 hours on batt. Extremely cool LCD screen
[21:02] <dmatt> patrickw: dou you need data on that inaccessible disk? if not, you just delete and recreate broken partition in Partition Manager and it shoul d be accessible again
[21:03] <calwig> Tested the real voltage drain and I only consume 10W. Just the CPU and nothing else, not even the screen uses this much. Charging voltage 22-24W
[21:03] <genii-around> patrickw: You can force it to be marked clean but that doesn't really fix the problem
[21:05] <patrickw> dmatt: the data is not essential, it's just a bkup, but it would be good to keep if possible.
[21:06] <patrickw> genii-around: how do i force it to be marked clean? what does that imply? that the computer mounts it, but that there is a problem the file tables?
[21:06] <genii-around> patrickw: If you like I can pm a link to a bootable freedos usb image, you just dd it to a stick, put chkdsk on there
[21:07] <dmatt> patrickw: if you have original disk available, you can make new backup to repaired partition... if not, follow the advice of genii-around
[21:07] <patrickw> genii-around: thanks that disk sounds great
[21:07] <patrickw> dmatt: thanks, but i'll try the repair route first
[21:07] <patrickw> wow this is really helpful
[21:08] <genii-around> patrickw:OK, give me a minute to put it on the public machine then I'll pm the link
[21:08] <patrickw> thank you
[21:08] <dmatt> patrickw: just be warned that backup migh/might not include things you expect to be there because you cancelled it at certain point
[21:08] <patrickw> dmatt: understood
[21:09] <patrickw> dmatt: there are folders in addition to the bkup on the disk. i'll just delete the back folder and do a clean rsync on it; it's the other stuff that while not essential would be nice to keep that i want to find
[21:11] <genii-around> patrickw: The image is 32M so pretty small
[21:12] <genii-around> patrickw: Then you grab a chkdsk version from http://users.telenet.be/imre/FreeDOS/  to put on the stick
[21:13] <patrickw> genii-around: is there a particular version of chkdsk i should be grabbing?
[21:15] <genii-around> I think chkdsk09.zip  ... the other ones called ckdsk I'm not sure if same program
[21:15] <patrickw> genii-around: i just grabbed the latest version 092
[21:15] <patrickw> ok
[21:16] <genii-around> patrickw: I use this freedos image to do bios upgrades usually but it can be useful for many things
[21:16] <artao> howdy. ... i seek guidance on linux CLI and underbelly please .. ... ... I'm using a program called Blender, and have several versions installed simultaneously in my $HOME$/bin/
[21:16] <artao> i would LIKE to be able to run any given version from within CLI of any given directory
[21:18] <artao> so ... i can create symlinks to each Blender verion, yes? and I would put them where? ... in /usr/bin/ ??? .... or /usr/share/bin/ ??? ... or where? such that typing, say, "blenderOscurart" anywhere in my system will run that specific version from my own $HOME$/bin/[blender version] .. .. ... ... .correct/
[21:22] <genii-around> artao: Probably instead to put in /usr/local/bin   then add that path to your ~/.bash_profile PATH= line
[21:22] <artao> i thought of that ... the problem there tho is that every version has the same executable name
[21:23] <artao> i've never used symlinks as such you see .. nor am I familiar enough with the linux file system to know where to put a symlink to that it works as intended
[21:24] <artao> =]
[21:30] <dmatt> artao: you can define it also as bash aliases
[21:30] <genii-around> artao: ln -s original-thing link-thing     like sudo ln -s /home/myname/bin/something /usr/local/bin/something
[21:31] <artao> eh? what's taht?
[21:31] <artao> okay .. so what genii-around said would allow me to run said bin/something from anywhere in the system?
[21:32] <artao> i don't know what a bash alias is dmatt
[21:32]  * artao is having fun with 'man ln'
[21:34] <dmatt> you write command and bash translates it to different one, write alias into console and see what aliases system defined for you
[21:35] <sburjan`> Hello. Why the Firefox interface looks so ugly in Kubuntu ? it looks like 15 years ago
[21:35] <artao> alias .. .. the deuce you say!
[21:37] <genii-around> sburjan`: Pretty much all non-Qt stuff will look like that. Can try using qtcurve
[21:37] <genii-around> !info qtcurve
[21:38] <sburjan`> genii-around: KDE is very cool feature wise, but seems that apps don't look so nice. no effects there
[21:39] <genii-around> sburjan`: Firefox and other apps which were made for GTK or other graphical backend will look different than native KDE apps. The qtcurve packages try to unify the look so it's not so horrible.
[21:46] <artao> ZOMG!!! genii-around thank you! that was very helpful and i can now do exactly as i had set out to do =D
[21:46] <artao> that'll make command-line rendering MUCH simpler
[21:47] <genii-around> artao: Glad to assist
[21:48] <sburjan`> genii-around: what should I do after I installed qtcurve ? I have installed it
[21:49] <genii-around> sburjan`: Step 3 onwards at http://maketecheasier.com/install-qtcurve-in-kde/2010/03/29
[21:52] <artao> oh yeah! one other question .... how can I set the priority of a process I start from the CLI ?? .. ... .. or better yet, where can I find a good list of the CLI options when running an executable .. things like '&' ......
[21:54] <artao> ya know? you're absolutely right!! i SHOULD have another cup of coffee
[21:55] <genii-around> !cli
[21:55]  * genii-around makes more coffee
[21:56] <genii-around> artao: As far as setting the priority, you can re-nice the process after it starts
[22:00] <genii-around> ( alternately run it like: nice <number here> your-command-name-here --your-command-arguments    ) The numbers it uses is from -20 where thats highest priority to +20 where lowest priority
[22:00] <genii-around> Giving something -20 though slows pretty much everything else to a crawl
[22:05] <artao> kaythx
[22:30] <davidpt> olá
[23:14] <BarkingFish> #ubuntu
[23:14] <BarkingFish> oops
[23:18] <PrestoJeff> For those who might have been listening in earlier, the problem I had was that my trackball emulates the middle button, and 12.04 does not have the emulator by default.  I installed the gpointing-device-settings package, ran it, clicked on the enable button and voila!
[23:18] <PrestoJeff> Middle button now emulated and now correctly pasting.
[23:26] <tikey> hola