[00:00] <mhall119> and how much money did your raise for charity?
[00:00] <bkerensa> mhall119: I go on holiday in couple weeks so I have to finish up projects
[00:00] <bkerensa> mhall119: what do you mean?
[00:00] <mhall119> last time I had terrible hours like that, I raised money for a charity
[00:00] <bkerensa> lol
[00:00] <JoseeAntonioR> :P
[00:01] <JoseeAntonioR> we should do a on-air staff marathon
[00:01] <mhall119> you should go wash clean pots for a soup kitchen or something
[00:01] <bkerensa> mhall119: I have terrible hours like that almost daily
[00:01] <bkerensa> mhall119: only if they are already clean and I get my photo taken
[00:01] <bkerensa> ;)
[00:01] <mhall119> you do have to wear an apron though
[00:02] <bkerensa> heh
[00:03] <IdleOne> why would you was clean pots?
[00:03] <IdleOne> wash*
[00:03] <bkerensa> IdleOne: its a joke
[00:03] <bkerensa> :)
[00:03] <bkerensa> IdleOne: a presidential candidate recently barged into a charity after it was closed and pretended to clean pots for a photo op
[00:03] <bkerensa> ;p
[00:04] <IdleOne> bkerensa: the good one or the idiot?
[00:04] <bkerensa> IdleOne: The idiot
[00:05] <IdleOne> heh, funny but I think we both agree on which is the idiot
[00:06] <mhall119> heh, the good one, you're funny IdleOne
[00:06] <bkerensa> ;p
[00:06] <IdleOne> mhall119: I try :P
[00:06] <bkerensa> I'm unsure if there is ever a good politician
[00:07] <bkerensa> imho they are all crooked in their own ways
[00:07] <mhall119> like all men
[00:07] <bkerensa> even the Greens :P
[00:07] <IdleOne> s/good one/less likely to do evil things one/
[00:07] <bkerensa> mhall119: oh even the women my friend :)
[00:07] <bkerensa> power does something dirty to people
[00:07] <JoseeAntonioR> I agree with bkerensa
[00:08] <bkerensa> It doesn't matter what country... what party... its all bad all the time :P
[00:08] <IdleOne> I don't believe that is true for all people. Problem is that those people who would actually not get corrupted by power never have a chance to get any power.
[00:08] <JoseeAntonioR> mhall119: mind a pm?
[00:09] <bkerensa> JoseeAntonioR: Say fancy
[00:09] <bkerensa> ;p
[00:09] <bkerensa> Fancy a PM?
[00:09] <bkerensa> :D
[00:09] <mhall119> JoseeAntonioR: go for it
[00:09] <JoseeAntonioR> :P
[00:14] <bkerensa> mhall119: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Extremely-Rare-McJordan-Barbeque-Sauce-from-McDonalds-/300743935150?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4605bc44ae&afsrc=1
[00:14] <mhall119> McJordan sauce? Wtf?
[00:15] <JoseeAntonioR> it's just water
[00:15] <JoseeAntonioR> dirty water
[00:15] <bkerensa> lol
[00:15] <bkerensa> mhall119: ikr
[00:15] <bkerensa> crazy
[00:15] <bkerensa> the price is even worse
[00:16] <mhall119> who wouldn't want a jug of aged BBQ sauce
[00:16] <mhall119> it pairs well with some Kraft singles
[00:16] <bkerensa> mhall119: It is a good bargain because it comes with free economy shipping
[00:16] <bkerensa> :D
[00:17] <JoseeAntonioR> unless you're in Peru, then you get charged 50.25
[00:22] <bkerensa> thats still a good deal
[00:22] <bkerensa> where else in Peru can you get Michael Jordan BBQ Sauce
[00:22] <bkerensa> :D
[00:22] <JoseeAntonioR> ;)
[04:04] <bkerensa> mhall119: do you know what were supposed to do about Loco Portal errors?
[04:04] <bkerensa> I have had a number of people who cannot RSVP for our release party
[06:53] <dholbach> good morning
[07:52] <dholbach> hola dpm
[07:53] <dpm> hey dholbach
[08:00] <czajkowski> JoseeAntonioR: I am now
[08:13] <dholbach> czajkowski, hope you get better soon again!
[08:17] <czajkowski> dholbach: me too pesky chest infection is irritating
[08:18] <czajkowski> dholbach: at least i'm in .ie which means oodles of tea and brown bread :D
[08:19] <dholbach> and hot whiskey
[08:19] <dholbach> I know
[08:19] <dholbach> :-P
[08:20] <czajkowski> *grin* yes I had a lovely hot whiskey last night with lemon and some cloves in it
[08:20] <czajkowski> so nice
[10:11] <dholbach> HOLY PATATAS BRAVAS - Spanish translations of the Ubuntu Packaging Guide are up to 79%: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-packaging-guide/
[10:11] <dholbach> dpm, ^
[10:12] <smartboyhw> LOL
[10:17] <czajkowski> brilliant
[10:18] <dholbach> it's really not easy to translate and they did it like in no time
[10:26] <IdleOne> where do we send emails if http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ is down?
[10:29] <czajkowski> IdleOne: ask in #canonical-sysadmin
[10:30] <IdleOne> thank you
[10:30] <czajkowski> np
[10:40] <AlanBell> IdleOne: interesting question, that has been down for ages and ages and I am not sure it has anything to do with Canonical
[10:41] <czajkowski> IdleOne: ahh mis read that entirely just saw lots
[10:41] <czajkowski> *logs
[10:41] <czajkowski> so that has been down and has diddly to do with canonical
[10:41] <czajkowski> some membes of the french loco used to be involved in more
[10:41] <IdleOne> interesting indeed
[10:41] <IdleOne> So, what do loco's do about logs?
[10:42] <czajkowski> IdleOne: no locos I know of use that url any more
[10:42] <IdleOne> or are they all logged at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[10:42] <czajkowski> IdleOne: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com
[10:42] <IdleOne> apparently .it does
[10:42] <AlanBell> IdleOne: the new logs are all on irclogs.ubuntu.com
[10:42] <czajkowski> all logs are there
[10:43] <AlanBell> it is just the history from > 2years ago that has gone
[10:43] <IdleOne> Safe to say they are out of luck?
[10:43] <czajkowski> IdleOne: yep they figured that out a few mins ago in the channel i mentioned
[10:44] <IdleOne> alright, thanks for helping
[10:44] <czajkowski> np
[12:05] <daker> mhall119: spam or not spam bug 1067240 ?
[12:05] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1067240 in loco-team-portal "Problem with logging in" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1067240
[12:08] <czajkowski> spam
[12:08] <czajkowski> invalid
[13:02] <jcastro_> hey balloons
[13:02] <jcastro_> is the quantal->precise backport testing still happening?
[13:02] <balloons> jcastro_, for the kernel?
[13:03] <jcastro_> yeah
[13:03] <balloons> if so, yes, it's still on-going
[13:03] <jcastro_> oh, I just realized I totally missed saying kernel, heh
[13:03] <jcastro_> link to page?
[13:03] <balloons> http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/223/builds
[13:04] <jcastro_> http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/223/builds/25321/downloads
[13:04] <jcastro_> nice instructions!
[13:04] <jcastro_> hey so this URL doesn't change right?
[13:07] <balloons> no it doesn't change
[13:08] <balloons> the builds autoincrement as new stuff is released
[13:08] <balloons> you can see the history: http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/223/history
[13:10] <jcastro_> oh I see
[13:10] <jcastro_> that's why you gave me the parent page
[13:41] <jbicha> jcastro_: good morning
[13:44] <jcastro_> jbicha: hey so I noticed 0 bug reports on ubuntu's gnome-boxes
[13:44] <jcastro_> that scared me
[13:44] <jcastro_> so I was just wondering if you know if anyone is using it, etc.
[13:45] <jbicha> jcastro_: oh good, that must mean it's bug-free! ;)
[13:45] <jcastro_> hah no
[13:45] <jcastro_> my first thought was like "welp, no one must be using this." heh
[13:46] <jbicha> yeah, it was broken much of the quantal cycle and magically it started working again recently
[13:46] <jbicha> none of the developers use Ubuntu & I only recently got access to a computer w/ hw virtualization to try it out
[13:47] <jcastro_> hmm
[13:47] <jcastro_> well mine runs with gksudo
[13:48] <jcastro_> but I can't make a VM with it
[13:48] <jcastro_> says it can't connect to whatever I name the install
[13:48] <jcastro_> I think it's trying to do the fancy SPICE thing
[13:48] <jbicha> um, you shouldn't need to use sudo for it and that can break file permissions
[13:50] <jcastro_> it wouldn't run without gksudo
[13:51] <jbicha> you're using 64-bit Ubuntu as your host, right?
[13:53] <jcastro_> yeah
[13:53] <jbicha> you could try asking in #boxes on irc.gnome.org
[13:53] <jcastro_> nah, I don't want to get yelled aty
[13:54] <jbicha> they seemed friendly enough, they wanted me to add Ubuntu preseed support though, so watch out, they might try to put you to work
[13:55] <jbicha> in other news, we opened the call for POSSCON 2013 speakers today
[13:56] <jbicha> we'll be at IT-oLogy this year, which is a great location
[13:57] <jcastro_> I loved your office
[14:23] <dholbach> jcastro_, is anyone else maintaining ubuntuonair, or just JoseeAntonioR?
[14:23] <dholbach> jcastro_, it seems I don't have access to the wordpress thing
[14:25] <dholbach> popey, ^ do you have access?
[14:27] <popey> dholbach, lemme see (otp)
[14:27] <dholbach> it might be that I don't have an account
[14:30] <dholbach> ok, I'll start the hangout without ubuntuonair.com :/
[14:30] <smartboyhw> dholbach, oh is there a ubuntuonair event today?
[14:30] <dholbach> yes
[14:30] <dholbach> now
[14:30]  * smartboyhw is surprised
[14:42] <popey> dholbach, i dont seem to have access either
[14:43] <popey> and it's hosted on my box :(
[14:43] <smartboyhw> popey: Er http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_8S7VW8IXM
[14:44] <popey> smartboyhw, what?
[15:01] <jono> dpm, mhall119 all set?
[15:01] <mhall119> yup
[15:01] <dpm> yep
[15:03] <mhall119> dpm: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/3d6b987f3c01fcb93b517e90a5dd1a92c8532715?authuser=0&hl=en
[15:04] <dpm> I'm there in a sec, having troubles logging in
[15:04] <jcastro_> cd
[15:04] <jcastro_> whoops
[15:05] <jono> dpm, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/3d6b987f3c01fcb93b517e90a5dd1a92c8532715?authuser=0&hl=en
[15:06] <dpm> jono, I can't get into the hangout, it keeps asking me for login info, let me restart Firefox
[15:07] <jono> dpm, ok
[15:21] <JoseeAntonioR> dholbach: I am around now. you do have access, your account's there :S
[15:21] <dholbach> JoseeAntonioR, let's talk later
[15:21] <JoseeAntonioR> sure
[15:26] <jcastro_> hey, is mine there?
[15:26] <jcastro_> we're going tomorrow right JoseeAntonioR?
[15:26] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro_: that's right!
[15:26] <JoseeAntonioR> and yours is too
[15:30] <dholbach> JoseeAntonioR, did you check if there's a dholbach account somewhere? I couldn't ask for it to reset my password because it didn't accept any of my email addresses
[15:30] <JoseeAntonioR> there is a dholbach
[15:30] <JoseeAntonioR> weird, no mail
[15:31] <dholbach> yeah, I couldn't reset it and the password was not the same as last time :)
[15:31] <JoseeAntonioR> the migration didn't fully move users
[15:31] <dholbach> aha!
[15:31] <dholbach> popey is locked out too he said
[15:31] <JoseeAntonioR> popey: I'm editing it, which email address should I use?
[15:31] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro_: ^
[15:32] <dholbach> daniel.holbach@ubuntu.com
[15:32] <jono> dholbach, will be two mins
[15:32] <JoseeAntonioR> dholbach: yours is ready to go
[15:32] <jono> wrapping a call
[15:32] <dholbach> jono, alrightie
[15:32] <jcastro_> JoseeAntonioR: jorge@ubuntu.com
[15:32] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro_: yours was already done
[15:33] <jcastro_> ah
[15:33] <dholbach> perfect, sorted - thanks JoseeAntonioR
[15:33] <JoseeAntonioR> thanks for letting me know!
[15:34] <JoseeAntonioR> popey: is alan@popey.com fine?
[15:37] <JoseeAntonioR> dholbach, jcastro_, mhall119, popey, didrocks, bkerensa: I suggest linking an OpenID to your accounts for an easy use
[15:38] <didrocks> I would love this :)
[15:38] <mhall119> what account?
[15:38] <didrocks> the launchpad one is fine, right?
[15:38] <JoseeAntonioR> mhall119: ubuntu on air
[15:39] <JoseeAntonioR> yep, that's an openid
[15:43] <jcastro_> http://launchpad.net/~didrocks
[15:43] <jcastro_> is your openid
[15:51] <didrocks> (done)
[15:51] <didrocks> thanks jcastro_
[15:51] <didrocks> jcastro_: btw, the reset rewrite is awesome, I gave some finale guidances before integrating it
[15:53] <jcastro_> yeah those guys did a great job
[15:53] <jcastro_> jokerdino was involved too
[15:53] <jcastro_> good to see some collaboration there.
[15:54] <jokerdino> hi!
[15:55] <jokerdino> didrocks: btw, webapps is not reset because it never matches com.canonical.Unity. it comes under unity.
[15:56] <didrocks> jokerdino: this is a bug by people not setting the schema right :p
[15:56] <didrocks> jokerdino: please exclude is still when we will fix it ;)
[15:56] <jokerdino> I guess so. i'll add a precautionary exclusion then :)
[15:56] <didrocks> yeah, for not having bad surprise the day we fix it :p
[15:57] <jokerdino> haha, nothing better than a proactive bug fix.
[15:57] <jokerdino> ok now i am really getting back to work. :P
[15:58] <mhall119> jcastro_: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-r-juju-appserver-support and https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/cloudserver-r-framework-charms seem to be the same thing
[15:58] <jcastro_> ah, good point
[15:58] <jcastro_> let me bring it up to antonio
[16:02] <jcastro_> mhall119: nice
[16:02] <jcastro_> I tried to supercede mine and it oopsed launchpad
[16:05] <czajkowski> jcastro_: Y U break Launchpad
[16:05] <czajkowski> no karma for you
[16:05] <mhall119> "oopsed" is a wonderful verb
[16:05] <czajkowski> I have other words
[16:05] <czajkowski> but we'll go with oopsed :)
[16:05] <mhall119> awesome?
[16:05] <jcastro_> I'll just decline it for uds-r
[16:05] <czajkowski> >:( back in your box mhall119
[16:06]  * mhall119 goes back to his awesome box
[16:06] <czajkowski> how is the little one with the sore eye ?
[16:06] <czajkowski> doing any better ?
[16:06] <mhall119> yeah, should be back to normal in a day or two
[16:07] <czajkowski> poor kido :(
[16:14] <jcastro_> bkerensa: I sorted that contributor thing for juju
[16:14] <jcastro_> almost got it sorted
[16:21] <philballew> I need to head over th the open stack conference soon and check out all the parties.
[16:23] <jcastro_> \o/
[16:24] <jcastro_> hey balloons
[16:24] <jcastro_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseNotes/Credits/Developers
[16:24] <jcastro_> what script did you use for this?
[16:25] <JoseeAntonioR> anyone from the marketing team around?
[16:27] <czajkowski> JoseeAntonioR: they tend to not be on irc much
[16:27] <JoseeAntonioR> :(
[16:27] <JoseeAntonioR> well
[16:27] <czajkowski> it's more of a marketing/communications team
[16:27] <czajkowski> JoseeAntonioR: what's up
[16:28] <JoseeAntonioR> I'd like to know if I can fill one of the slots with them
[16:29] <czajkowski> ahh
[16:29] <czajkowski> ok
[16:29] <czajkowski> lemmie go and find someone and see
[16:29] <JoseeAntonioR> yay, thanks!
[16:29] <czajkowski> dont get so excited
[16:29] <czajkowski> just yet
[16:30] <czajkowski> and there is only on air slots available
[16:30] <czajkowski> hmm
[16:30] <JoseeAntonioR> yeah, that's one of the main probs, people don't want to take it
[16:31] <czajkowski> I suspect this could be the same
[16:31] <czajkowski> any chance it could bt non air
[16:31] <czajkowski> doesnt really suit a lot of people tbh
[16:32] <dholbach> alright my friends - I call it a day - see you all tomorrow
[16:32] <JoseeAntonioR> hmm, we wanted to do this one different, if we don't find on air sessions I'll just have to go and make them irc-based
[16:33] <czajkowski> JoseeAntonioR: wanting and getting are two different things :) but we can try and least
[16:33] <czajkowski> it's a busy week for people that week also
[16:34] <JoseeAntonioR> that's one of the main problems of OpenWeek, it's more community-based
[16:34] <AlanBell> oh, Friday is OnAir, interesting
[16:35] <czajkowski> JoseeAntonioR: well I guess it what's ever ye want it to be
[16:36] <czajkowski> but given it's smack bang in a canonical week makes it harder also. and the week before is this week so release week
[16:36] <czajkowski> maybe something to discuss at uds when the open week should be
[16:36] <JoseeAntonioR> yeah, this is harder than UDW and UUD
[16:36] <JoseeAntonioR> I'll put it in the agenda
[16:39] <czajkowski> JoseeAntonioR: can you pm me some ideas of what you're looking for re the marketing sessions so I've an ideas
[16:39] <czajkowski> please
[16:39] <JoseeAntonioR> czajkowski: sure, one sec
[16:43] <mhall119> jcastro_: when is mark's openstack presentation?  Email said 16:30 utc
[16:45] <jcastro_> right now
[16:46] <jcastro_> http://www.openstack.org/
[16:46] <philballew> I looked outside and I didnt see his plane land. :(
[16:47] <jcastro_> lol
[16:47] <jcastro_> he used the amazon lens to highlight openstack authors
[16:48] <czajkowski> juju = magic sounds more like voodoo
[16:48] <czajkowski> but how and ever
[16:49] <philballew> still maiting on ubuntu voodoo dolls
[16:49] <AlanBell> available in the shopping lens now
[16:50] <AlanBell> (probably)
[16:50]  * philballew searches for " AlanBell Voodoo doll "
[16:50] <czajkowski> when he was in Limerick last weekend
[16:51] <czajkowski> the folks were amazing he'd come to a small conference, 120/130 people and talk to them, the live demo of the lens had most people walking out going to try it
[16:52] <czajkowski> JoseeAntonioR: send mail asap so I cna forward on
[16:52] <JoseeAntonioR> ok!
[16:53]  * philballew I should take the canonical people to the cool places to eat one of the cool times there here. Tacos that make you sweat.
[16:54] <mhall119> jcastro_: juju GUI looks nice
[16:54] <philballew> unless Europeans are not into spicy food.
[16:54] <jcastro_> yeah
[16:54] <jcastro_> look at what he's doing
[16:54] <jcastro_> that's basically awesome
[16:55] <mhall119> uh oh...
[16:56] <JoseeAntonioR> czajkowski: email sent
[17:38] <nigelb> AlanBell: Heh, this error message on summit sounds like you wrote it :P "Oh bugger!"
[17:39] <JoseeAntonioR> nigelb: I'm around now, you pinged me a couple days ago
[17:40] <nigelb> JoseeAntonioR: Oh. I was looking for help with google hangouts on air. jcastro_ linked me to the wiki :)
[17:40] <JoseeAntonioR> oh, sure
[17:41] <JoseeAntonioR> that wiki page is a bit old, but I'll try to update i
[17:41] <JoseeAntonioR> t
[17:41] <jcastro_> AlanBell: or popey
[17:41] <jcastro_> is london time UTC?
[17:42] <czajkowski> we're UTC+1 atm jcastro_
[17:42] <jcastro_> rock
[17:42] <czajkowski> jcastro_: see I know stuff too :p
[17:43] <jcastro_> I forgot you moved to london
[17:43] <jcastro_> I know it's been like 2 years or something
[17:44] <czajkowski> and ireland is in the same timezone :)
[17:44] <czajkowski> but how and ever all is forgiven
[17:44] <nigelb> when is the change?
[17:44] <nigelb> next month or this month?
[17:45] <JoseeAntonioR> I think this one
[17:45] <czajkowski> 28/10
[17:45] <czajkowski> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/clockchange.html?n=136&year=2012
[17:45] <JoseeAntonioR> right before UDS
[17:46] <nigelb> phew
[17:46] <czajkowski> the day I fly out to UDS
[17:46] <czajkowski> late evening flight so not worried
[17:47] <JoseeAntonioR> I'm worried about jet lag, looks like Red Bull will be my friend during those days
[17:48] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro_: do you think you can update the page with the details of our guests?
[17:51] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro_: description for Ivanka?
[17:52] <jcastro_> yeah I need to work on the description today
[17:52] <JoseeAntonioR> give it to me asap, so I can post to the fridge
[17:52] <jcastro_> ok sec
[17:53] <jcastro_> "I thought it was time to update my About Me and My work pages and I could’t bring my self to edit the old versions. After all, this is my blog and I reserve the right to be self-indulgent."
[17:53] <jcastro_> hah
[17:53] <jcastro_> thanks ivanka
[17:53] <jcastro_> JoseeAntonioR: here you go
[17:54] <jcastro_> http://www.ivankamajic.com/historical/my-work/
[17:54] <jcastro_> the first paragraph outta do it
[17:54] <JoseeAntonioR> :P
[17:54] <JoseeAntonioR> ok!
[17:54] <jcastro_> neil's is on there already iirc?
[17:54] <JoseeAntonioR> yep
[18:08] <doctormon> jono: Regarding out chat the other day: http://fav.me/d5i3aqd
[18:33] <bkerensa> doctormon: :)
[18:33] <mhall119> sweet! bonus XKCD volume 0!
[18:34] <nigelb> Heh
[18:34] <nigelb> I got it for XKCD
[18:34] <mhall119> I bought the humble ebook bundle before they added it
[18:35] <bkerensa> wow
[18:35] <bkerensa> ebook bundle?
[18:35] <JoseeAntonioR> :O Ivanka has been to Peru!
[18:35] <nigelb> Don't you remember?
[18:36] <nigelb> She went from Canada all the way down.
[18:36] <JoseeAntonioR> wow
[18:36] <nigelb> on a motorbike.
[18:36] <JoseeAntonioR> yeah, I've been watching that
[18:36] <mhall119> bkerensa: https://www.humblebundle.com/
[18:41] <AlanBell> nigelb: not guilty!
[18:41] <nigelb> AlanBell: hahaha
[18:41] <AlanBell> nigelb: could be Australian too
[18:42] <nigelb> oh, I think it could be our good friends at linaro
[18:57] <doctormon> Yeah I already have xkcd-0, better to have the book anyway, xkcd is Creative Commons.
[19:36] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro_: do you have neil's and ivanka's g+ profile link
[19:36] <jcastro_> https://plus.google.com/105470502273244297564/posts
[19:36] <jcastro_> I don't think ivanka is on g+?
[19:37] <jcastro_> https://plus.google.com/114106168392802005843/posts
[19:37] <jcastro_> found her!
[19:40] <JoseeAntonioR> yay
[19:43] <JoseeAntonioR> the circle is ready, all set for tomorrow
[20:42] <JoseeAntonioR> upvotes appreciated: http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/11l8df/announcing_the_juju_web_ui/
[20:44] <bkerensa> ;) /r/Ubuntu is such a liberal subreddit ;p
[20:46] <jcastro_> I like /r/ubuntu
[20:48] <bkerensa> jcastro_: because of the lack of enforcement of reddiquette? :)
[20:48] <jcastro_> which one?
[20:48] <bkerensa> Upvoting friends/co-workers blog posts :P
[20:48] <bkerensa> self-promotion
[20:48] <bkerensa> :D
[20:50] <jcastro_> http://code.reddit.com/wiki/help/reddiquette
[20:50] <jcastro_> i think that applies on reddit itself
[20:51] <jcastro_> and even then, it doesn't mention anything about upvoting for your friends/coworkers
[20:52] <bkerensa> jcastro_: Hint at asking for votes.
[20:53] <bkerensa> Asking for votes or having others upvote
[20:53] <bkerensa> it doesnt matter if its a cousin or brother or your boss :)
[20:53] <bkerensa> thats why I said /r/Ubuntu is liberal
[20:53] <bkerensa> :)
[20:53] <bkerensa> its a good thing
[20:53] <jcastro_> fair enough
[20:54] <jcastro_> you've caught our circle of 5 people destroying the reddit vote economy
[20:54] <bkerensa> ... /r/Portland is similar in allowing expanded sharing and upvoting
[20:54] <bkerensa> :P
[20:54] <mhall119> bkerensa: From the context, I gather they don't want you doing that in your post/on reddit
[20:54] <bkerensa> hardly
[20:54] <bkerensa> Ubuntu's subreddit is pretty small
[20:55] <bkerensa> I keep telling you guys /r/Linux is better for clicks
[20:55] <bkerensa> ;p
[20:55] <czajkowski> that doesnt mean the rules don't still apply though surely
[20:55] <jcastro_> also, the topic of my post has nothing to do with flaming unity, it's likely offtopic for /r/ubuntu
[20:55] <mhall119> jcastro_: that doesn't mean the comments won't involve flaming unity
[20:56] <snap-l> Um, I think they mean asking for votes in the comments or subject matter.
[20:56] <snap-l> I don't think there's a problem with asking for votes on a separate channel
[20:57]  * mhall119 must now assume that any downvote is from bkerensa 
[20:58] <bkerensa> mhall119: ?
[20:58] <bkerensa> I upvoted actually
[20:58] <mhall119> a likely story
[20:58]  * snap-l puts away the sock puppet accounts.
[20:59] <mhall119> I posted a puppy picture on /r/funny/ and it was downvoted, I bet it was bkerensa
[20:59] <bkerensa> psh
[20:59] <bkerensa> I dont read /r/funny
[20:59] <AlanBell> should have done a kitten
[20:59] <mhall119> he has a grudge against dogs
[20:59] <AlanBell> or a chicken
[20:59] <bkerensa> what
[20:59] <bkerensa> that makes no sense
[20:59] <AlanBell> chickens are funny
[20:59] <snap-l> and tasty
[20:59] <mhall119> a dog once kicked his corporate sponsor
[21:00] <snap-l> Also, I think pictures of doing kittens are a different sub-reddit
[21:00] <bkerensa> mhall119: http://apps.ycombinator.com/item?id=1937380
[21:00] <bkerensa> uck
[21:00] <bkerensa> http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/eaqnf/pardon_me_but_5000_downvotes_wtf_is_worldnews_for/
[21:00] <bkerensa> :D
[21:00] <bkerensa> vote fuzzing
[21:00] <bkerensa> for every one or two votes Reddit automatically downvotes any submission
[21:01] <bkerensa> depending on the karma of the submitters
[21:01]  * mhall119 downvotes that HN item
[21:01]  * mhall119 blames it on bkerensa 
[21:01]  * bkerensa ragequits
[21:01] <AlanBell> I need a second camera just for the chickens
[21:01] <pleia2> AlanBell: there are chickens everywhere here!
[21:02] <pleia2> they just wander about :)
[21:02] <AlanBell> yay
[21:02] <AlanBell> :)
[21:02] <AlanBell> I have been following your blog posts
[21:02] <pleia2> I have chicken pictures, but limited bandwidth means the chickens don't make it up ;)
[21:02] <pleia2> I'll upload when I'm home before UDS
[21:02] <mhall119> pleia2: did you give them some Ubuntu CDs?
[21:03] <pleia2> mhall119: haha, no
[21:03] <pleia2> the Accra LUG people were laughing at me when I was like "hey, chickens!" they were all "we don't even notice them"
[21:03] <AlanBell> I am looking forward to retreiving their Precise Server CD and seeing if it boots still
[21:05] <mhall119> AlanBell: you should register chickenwatch.com and put a  bunch of distro CDs in there, then give each a "peck rank"
[21:05] <mhall119> then we can be all "ZOMG! Justin Beiber Linux is more popular than Ubuntu according to chickenwatch ranking!"
[21:05] <pleia2> hehe
[21:06] <AlanBell> hmm, I could
[21:06] <mhall119> that is, until those Mint guys build a pecking-bot to skew the numbers
[21:06] <AlanBell> ooh, you need to submit your spicerack to http://ratemyspicerack.com
[21:07] <mhall119> I don't have a spice rack
[21:07] <AlanBell> (my most recent mildly silly project)
[21:07] <mhall119> neither, it seems, do many of the people posting there
[21:07] <mhall119> at least mine are *all* in tupperware bins
[21:08] <AlanBell> yes, they don't strictly have to be racked
[21:23] <bkerensa> mhall119: I guess having a spice rack in Europe is the new in.
[21:23] <bkerensa> :D
[21:24] <JoseeAntonioR> hey guys, do you know how can I get products from the canonistore without shipping? there won't be a uds shop this time
[21:25] <bkerensa> LOL
[21:25] <bkerensa> :D
[21:26] <bkerensa> JoseeAntonioR: if there wont be a UDS Shop then you have to pay for shipping
[21:26] <JoseeAntonioR> ok, looks like I'll have to wait until may
[21:26] <czajkowski> JoseeAntonioR: it has to be shipped somehow
[21:26] <czajkowski> JoseeAntonioR: or get it shipped to someone and they bring it to uds
[21:27] <jcastro_> I would just coerce popey to bring you stuff
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[21:27] <czajkowski> get it shipped to me and if it arrives before I leave yer sorted
[21:27] <popey> hmm?
[21:27] <bkerensa> :D
[21:27] <bkerensa> czajkowski: I imagine thats much cheaper than to Peru
[21:27] <bkerensa> :D
[21:27] <JoseeAntonioR> that may work if shipping's not too expensive for a couple pens and a couple tshirts
[21:27] <czajkowski> JoseeAntonioR: I fly out on the 28th if that's any good to you
[21:27] <czajkowski> bkerensa: indeed which was why I was offering to JoseeAntonioR
[21:27] <JoseeAntonioR> shipping to Peru for a pen is around 50 dollars
[21:28] <popey> would be better to ask czajkowski than me because I fly out on the 21st
[21:28] <popey> might not get here in time
[21:28] <JoseeAntonioR> yep
[21:28] <czajkowski> JoseeAntonioR: if you want pm and Ill give you my address
[21:28] <popey> \o/ two weeks in Copenhagen!
[21:28] <JoseeAntonioR> lemme check the shipping price first
[21:28] <czajkowski> 2 weeks of overpriced beer
[21:28] <JoseeAntonioR> 2 weeks of overpriced water!
[21:28] <czajkowski> gonna be the most sober of uds ever
[21:28] <popey> depends where you buy it :)
[21:28] <JoseeAntonioR> looks like I'll survive with tap water
[21:29]  * popey worked in Copenhagen for ~6 months. Lovely place
[21:29] <czajkowski> popey: can I get cider there at a reasonable price
[21:29] <czajkowski> hmmm I've drank all the jack out in this house
[21:29] <czajkowski> bah!!
[21:29] <popey> haha
[21:32] <jcastro_> behold
[21:32] <jcastro_> http://procatinator.com/
[21:34] <mhall119> jcastro_: what in the name of sanity is this?
[21:34] <jcastro_> it's the greatest thing ever built
[21:34] <jcastro_> that's what it is
[21:35] <bkerensa> czajkowski: I must ask is Longbow popular in London?
[21:35] <bkerensa> for some reason it seems popular here
[21:35] <bkerensa> Strongbow even
[21:35] <bkerensa> >.<
[21:37] <czajkowski> meh I'd drink it at a push
[22:04] <bkerensa> mhall119: you about?
[23:00] <mhall119> no
[23:00] <mhall119> :)
[23:10] <jbicha> jcastro_: we got a Boxes update today, no idea whether it will work any better for you though
[23:46] <cprofitt> anyone know what has replaced gconf-editor now? I am trying to make changes to how scale and expo work, but the gconf-editor settings are not working
[23:56] <jokerdino> cprofitt: they are in dconf now. use ccsm.
[23:56] <jokerdino> wait, that's only for 12.10.